* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [ Brentwood City Commission Briefing July 9, 2026 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.] [00:00:02] DON'T TAKE TOO LONG. THAT'S A LOT OF ROUTINE ITEMS THAT MOST OF YOU'RE USED TO SEEING. SO WE'LL START OFF WITH A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, IS THAT, UH, CHANGE IN OUR ZONING CODE THAT REQUIRES THE 20%, UH, LOCK COVER, UH, GREEN SPACE FOR OUR, UH, ZONING AREAS OF, UH, AGRICULTURAL, UH, LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL, THE R ONE AND R TWO. AND THAT WOULD MAKE THOSE, UH, THE SAME AS WHAT WE HAVE IN OSRD WITH HAVING 40%, UH, GREEN SPACE. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM? SO, HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY STAFF COMMENTS OR ANYTHING? 'CAUSE I, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM BUILDERS OR REBUILDS. I CAN SEE, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. TODD'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN, I'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF CALLS FROM CONTRACTORS ASKING WHEN IT'S GONNA BE ENACTED, SO YOU KNOW WHEN THE START DATE'S GONNA BE. SO THEY MAY REALIZE THEY DON'T ACTUALLY AFFECT THEM REALLY A WHOLE LOT . RIGHT. FOLLOW. ALRIGHT. UH, GOING INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, QUITE A FEW ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. THE FIRST ITEM IS AN AGREEMENT, UH, WITH ESRI FOR GIS SOFTWARE SERVICES. SO WHEN YOU GO ON A WEBPAGE, YOU SEE THE COOL MAPPING THAT'S ESRI AND THEY'RE THE LEADER NATIONALLY WITH, PROBABLY INTERNATIONALLY WITH GIS. ALL THE CITIES USE THEM. THEY HAVE AN ENTERPRISE LICENSE AGREEMENT AND THEY PRICE THAT BASED ON POPULATION. WE FALL IN BETWEEN THE 25,001 AND 50,000 POPULATION, HAVE 45 USERS ACROSS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. AND SO BASED ON THE PRICING, IT'S THE FIXED ANNUAL PRICE AND THE BASE PRICE FOR, UH, PER YEAR FOR THREE YEAR CYCLES. THE 42,200, WE DIDN'T HAVE A NEW FEATURE REALITY MAPPING AND SERVER 3D TYPE MAPPING FOR ADDITIONAL 1500. SO THE TOTAL IS 43,700, UH, PER YEAR FOR THAT. AND IT'S FUNDED BETWEEN PRIMARILY OUR GIS DEPARTMENT AND THE GENERAL FUND. UH, AND THEN ABOUT 10,000 COMES OUT OF THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS DISTRICT BECAUSE OUR DISPATCHING SOFTWARE, THEY USE THE, UH, GI, THE ESRI SOFTWARE AS WELL. I HAVE A QUESTION, NOT ABOUT THIS, BUT ABOUT THE SYSTEM IN GENERAL. WHEN YOU GO TO OUR MAPS AND YOU CAN SEE LIKE MY HOUSE, I GO TO IT. WHEN YOU CLICK ON IT NOW ALL IT SHOWS IS WHO OWNS IT, AT LEAST ON MY IPAD. IT USED TO, THAT USED TO BE DO ANOTHER CLICK AND IT SHOWED THE HISTORY OF WHO OWNED IT AND WHAT THE LAST SALES PRICE AND ALL THAT WAS. THAT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A, IF IT DID THAT, IT'D BE LINKED TO THE COUNTY RECORDS AND YOU CAN USUALLY CLICK ON YOUR NAME AND IT'LL, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I DID. IT'S NOT YOUR, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST MY IPAD. I MEAN, BECAUSE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS WILL DO IT DIFFERENTLY. I'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT. YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THAT AS WELL BECAUSE IT, I MEAN I PROBABLY USE THE SYSTEM MORE THAN IT'S TRULY HEALTHY, BUT I FIND OUT THAT THERE, WITH A LOT OF QUESTIONS I GET FROM DIFFERENT CONSTITUENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT IT COMES UP A LOT. MM-HMM . AND A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THEY HAVE CAN BE, CAN BE ANSWERED, YOU KNOW, BY GREAT. IF THAT WAS VERY HANDY. THE INTERFACE HAS CHANGED AND, AND, AND THERE IS A WAY ON MOST OF 'EM TO GO TO IT, BUT NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING IT INSIDE OUR GIS IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MOVED TO THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY RECORDS WHERE IT LINKS DIRECTLY TO THE, OH WELL IT WAS SO HANDY ON OUR GIS. YEAH, SO YOU CAN STILL GET TO IT, BUT, UM, BUT I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A DECISION THAT WE MADE TO REDO THE INTERFACE OR IF THIS IS OFF THE SHELF SOFTWARE THAT WHEN THEY DO UPDATES IT KIND OF CHANGES THE WAY IT ALL RECORDS THE PROPERTY. AT LEAST MOST GIS SYSTEMS, THE PROPERTY INFORMATION IS ALWAYS LINKED TO THE COUNTY. I'M WONDERING IF THERE WAS AN UPGRADE AND IT JUST AFFECTED THAT, THAT LINK AND HOW IT OCCURRED. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY OVER THERE, YOU GUYS THAT USE IT A LOT MORE WOULD HAVE ANY IDEA ON THAT. FIND OUT THOUGH. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS, BUT I DO USE IT. I HAD A QUESTION EARLY ON ABOUT IT A LITTLE WHILE. SOME STUFF, THERE'S LIKE, SO DOES IT COME UP ON YOUR MIGHT JUST BE MY IPAD ARROW RIGHT AT THE TOP AS YOU CAN CLICK AND SEE. I'VE ALWAYS DONE IT ON MY IPAD AND THEN THE LAST TWO OR THREE TIMES I'VE TRIED IT, SO IT'S COMING UP. THERE'S ARROWS AT THE TOP NOW, BUT I DO REMEMBER IT USED TO. YEAH. YEAH. WELL I'VE TRIED IT. WHERE ARE THERE ARROWS? I MEAN, I, I PUNCHED EVERYTHING. IT WAS THERE TO PUNCH THERE AND THIS SHOULD BE OVER HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN, I CAN'T SEE . THEY'RE AT THE TOP OF THE DROPDOWN, WHICH SHOULD BE OVER HERE. WELL SEE. I DIDN'T, LET'S SEE IF THAT LOOKS LIKE MY DROPDOWN. NO, NO. APPLE MAY. THIS MAY LAPTOP. GO TO IPAD USING AN EDGE BROWSER OR CHROME BROWSER. I AM CHROME. [00:05:01] OKAY. YEAH, YOU'RE PROBABLY USING SAFARI ON THE, THE IPAD. AND I KNOW TRISH IS, MY WIFE IS A, A IPAD TRUE BELIEVER AND ALWAYS IS AN APPLE, APPLE STUFF AND SAFARI DOES NOT WORK THE SAME. YEAH, I'VE NOTICED THAT. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. LOTS OF THINGS. AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS IS REAL MICROSOFT INTENSIVE AND SO WHEN YOU USE APPLE FOR INFORMATION SYSTEMS OR WHATEVER, SOMETIMES IT TOTALLY CHANGES WEBSITE LOOKS LIKE AND EVERYTHING. OH TOTALLY. YEAH. IT WORKS. BUT IT'S SO SHE'LL BE SO MAD LIKE A RESERVATION WEBSITE AND I'M LIKE, JUST USE A PROPER BROWSER. YEAH, THAT'S A SUPER COOL TOOL. THAT'S FOR SURE. WE USED TO SAY, HEY, YOU CAN DO LOCATION TRACKING. WE USED TO SAVE NOTES, A FIXED PICTURE. BUT IF YOU HAVE KIDS THAT ARE DATING AGE RIGHT. JUST SHOW 'EM THE MAP AND THEY'LL THINK THAT. YOU CAN SAY, WELL I CAN SEE YOU ANYWHERE ON THE MAP. TIME. YEAH, . YEAH. ALRIGHT, UH, SET ITEM TWO IS, UH, APPROVAL FOR PURCHASE, UH, UH, PURCHASE KEEPER PASSWORD MANAGEMENT SUBSCRIPTION. AND THIS IS A FAIRLY NEW SOFTWARE WE'VE BEEN USING FOR A FEW MONTHS, BASICALLY IN THE OLD DAYS. RIGHT? THEY ALWAYS TELL YOU DON'T USE THE SAME PASSWORD FOR EVERYTHING AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. AND, BUT THEN DON'T KEEP A LIST AND THEN YOU HAVE 30 PASSWORDS. YOU CAN'T 40, 50 THAT YOU CAN'T KEEP TRACK OF. SO YOU MAKE A LIST ANYWAY. THIS IS A SOFTWARE THAT ACTUALLY IS SECURE THAT YOU CAN PUT ALL YOUR PASSWORDS IN AND IT KEEPS 'EM FOR YOU FOR CERTAIN PASSWORDS. IT'S KIND OF COOL FOR CERTAIN PASSWORDS IF SAY IT, AND AGAIN, THIS IS WORK APPLICATION, BUT IF SOMEONE DOES A CERTAIN TASK AND THEY'RE GONNA BE GONE AND SOMEONE ELSE NEEDS TO DO THAT FOR THOSE, YOU CAN EVEN ASSIGN WHERE OTHERS HAVE ACCESS TO THAT PASSWORD FOR THAT PURPOSE. YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL IN DOING THAT. BUT IT ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT WITH CERTAIN, UH, PROTOCOLS. IT DOES SOME DARK WEB MONITORING, UH, LEAK PASSWORDS. IT HELPS, UH, IT HELPS YOU CREATE PROPER PASSWORDS. SO IT'S A REALLY GOOD TOOL. UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE, THERE ARE TWO PROVIDERS THAT WE CAN GET PURCHASE THIS. THEY'RE BOTH COOPERATIVES, BUT WE LOOKED AND FELT AND GOT A QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM THE SOFTWARE COMPANY. IT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN THE CO-OP PRICING, WHICH IS KIND OF ODD. YOU DON'T SEE THAT VERY OFTEN, BUT IT IS. SO WE'RE JUST RECOMMENDING HERE A WAIVER OF THE COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT, PURCHASE IT DIRECTLY AND GET IT FOR LESS THAN THE CO-OP PRICING. WHAT IS THAT COST, JASON? DO YOU KNOW? UH, LEMME SEE. IT SHOULD BE RIGHT. YEAH. UH, 20, LET'S SEE. GENERAL FUND 24,000 975, 72. BUT THERE'S ECD AND, AND THE, AND THERE'S ANOTHER GENERAL FUND PIECE. SO I'M GONNA QUICKLY EDIT 25, 26. SO RIGHT AROUND $27,000. IT'S A, IT'S PRETTY COOL. I I USE IT. I FIGURE I SHOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE AND IT, IT WORKS FINE. IT'S REALLY PRETTY HANDY. UM, SO ANOTHER SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING BUT JUST TO BE SURE. UM, SO WE'VE REALLY LOOKED INTO EMBEDDED IT AND THEY'RE NOT LIKE HEADQUARTERED OUT OF NIGERIA OR EASTERN EUROPE OR CHINA OR . WE VE IT PRETTY CLOSELY. SOUNDS VALLEY, BUT NONE OF THOSE OTHER PLACES. YEAH. I SAY THIS 'CAUSE A COUPLE YEARS AGO IT WAS APER SKI OR WHATEVER THAT, WHERE EVERYONE WAS LIKE, OH MY GOSH, THIS IS LIKE SUCH AFFORDABLE VIRUS PROTECTION THAT IT TURNS OUT 'CAUSE IT WAS A BACKDOOR TRAP. MM-HMM . YEAH. NO, WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS IS A GOOD PRODUCT. UH, CONSENT ITEM, NUMBER THREE, AGREEMENT WITH WINDROW PHILLIPS GROUP FOR GOVERNMENT RELATIONS SERVICES. IT DOES OUR LOBBYING AT THE STATE LEVEL, BEEN WITH THEM SINCE 2017. BEEN VERY HAPPY. THEY'RE VERY GOOD WITH SHARING INFORMATION. AS WE ALL KNOW, AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE END OF THE SESSION, THINGS CAN MOVE A LITTLE FASTER AS WELL. UH, BUT, UH, THEY'RE VERY GOOD ABOUT KEEPING A TRACK FOR NOT JUST US, BUT THEY REPRESENT A LOT OF OTHER TENNESSEE CITIES AS WELL. SO THEY, THEY WORK WITH US AS A GROUP. THEY WORK WITH US INDIVIDUALLY. THEY'RE ALWAYS THERE AND RESPONSIVE WHEN WE NEED 'EM TO BE. UM, AND SO THEY ALSO, THIS AGREEMENT IN ADDITION TO THE DIRECT LOBBYING, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ALSO INCLUDES IF WE HAVE NEED TO HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OR A PARTICULAR STATE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. AND SO THE COST OF THE SERVICES IS 51,000, WHICH I DON'T GET TO SAY THIS VERY OFTEN, WHICH IS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SAY THAT MUCH, SO I'M HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT. ADDITIONALLY, WE SEPARATE OUT AND PAY THE, UH, UH, FOR THE THREE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE FIRM, THEIR, THEIR, UH, REGISTRATION LOBBYIST REGISTRATION FEE, WHICH IS FOUR 50. UM, BUT WE'RE VERY HAPPY AND KRISTEN DEALS WITH THEM, UH, CLOSER THAN ANYBODY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? I DON'T HAVE ECHO ALL OF THAT. THEY'RE FANTASTIC. YEAH. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE HAD SOME STUFF KIND OF FLYING UNDER THE RADAR WHERE THIS PAST YEAR, I KNOW WE HAD SOME, SOME THINGS WHERE THE COUNTY WENT DIRECTLY TO THE STATE TELLING US AND THERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF ABOUT LIKE OUR ELECTIONS THAT WERE SNEAKING AROUND OUT THERE. AND I FEEL LIKE WE FOUND OUT ABOUT HIM ON OUR OWN RATHER THAN FINDING OUT ABOUT HIM. WE, NO, I WILL TELL YOU THEY ARE ALWAYS WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND FOR US. AND JASON AND I, WERE WORKING WITH HIM AND I WILL, I, IT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO SAY IS THEY KNOW WHAT'S WORTH FIGHTING AND WHAT'S NOT, AND THEY KEEP US IN THE LOOP. AND WHEN THEY, WHEN WE SENT THOSE EMAILS AND DID THOSE RESOLUTIONS, THAT [00:10:01] WAS AT THEIR RECOMMENDATION. SO YEAH, THEY'RE ALWAYS WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND FOR US, SO YEAH. WHY ARE YOU REFERRING TO WHEN THEY TRY TO CHANGE THE ELECTION POINT TO CHANGE SO THAT YEAH. AND THAT COMES UP EVERY YEAR. SO, AND THIS WAS A YEAR WHERE IT GOT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO PASSING, BUT THEY'VE HELPED US KEEP IT NOT PASSING. NOT PASSING. YEAH, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT TOO. THEY, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE USUALLY, YOU DON'T SEE DRAMATIC SHIFTS IN THE, IN THE EMPHASIS OF SOME OF THE, THE BILLS THAT ARE PUT OUT THERE. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU MIGHT, BUT NOT ALWAYS. SO THERE'LL BE BILLS THAT, THAT ARE SPONSORED THAT COME BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN, THAT THEY KEEP TRYING TO KEEP, TRYING TO GET MOMENTUM, TRY TO FIND THE RIGHT YEAR TO DO IT. AND SO THOSE ARE ONES THAT THEY TRACK PRETTY CLOSELY. UM, AND WE KEEP, THEY DO THEIR THING. THE THE, UH, MUNICIPAL LEAGUE DOES THEIR THING, THE INDIVIDUALLY DO THEIR THING TO TRY TO KEEP THAT STUFF DOWN. SOMETIMES IT'S GONNA MAKE IT, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT THEY DO A GOOD JOB HELPING US WITH THOSE AND KEEPING TRACK. WE GO THROUGH A LONG LAUNDRY LIST OF, OF BILLS THAT POTENTIALLY HAVE AN EFFECT ON US. AND I DUNNO HOW THEY DO IT. 50 PAGES WORTH. YEAH. I MEAN THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT I DON'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT ANY PERSON RUNNING FOR CONGRESS FROM MY DISTRICT. I MEAN, I DON'T, I LOOK AT 'EM OR ARE YOU THE GUY WITH A QUARRY OR IS THAT THE GUY OVER THERE? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S INTENTIONAL THAT, I MEAN, THE MORE IN THE DARK WE ARE, THE LESS WE ARE ABLE TO VOTE FOR PEOPLE. I THINK IT JUST MAKES ME MAD. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S FRUSTRATING ON THE CANDIDATES LIKE THAT AND IT'LL HELP US WITH THAT SO MUCH. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S FRUSTRATING. IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING. QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE, DO THEY, DO THEY SEND OUT NOTIF LIKE NEWSLETTERS, UPDATES? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES. THE 50 PAGES. YEAH. SO, UM, TWO THINGS AT THE BEGINNING OF SESSION WE SIT DOWN AND IT'S EITHER BEEN JASON J AND ME AND WHOEVER ELSE FROM THE HANDFUL OF CITIES THAT THEY REPRESENT THAT ARE, AND THOSE CITIES ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED TO US. IT'S NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE BIG CITIES. THEY DON'T HAVE REALLY TEENY TINY CITIES. THEY HAVE ONES WITH SIMILAR POPULATIONS. SO WE GET TOGETHER AROUND THE CONFERENCE ROOM AT THEIR OFFICE AND LITERALLY GO THROUGH ONE BY ONE AND 50 PAGES OF HOWEVER MANY BILLS HAVE BEEN FILED. AND THEY CAN TYPICALLY TELL US, UM, LIKE, THIS ONE MIGHT GET TRACTION THIS YEAR, THIS ONE WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO WORRY ABOUT. BUT THEN, SO WE CREATE A PRIORITY LIST FROM THAT AND THEN THEY EMAIL US EVERY SINGLE WEEK WHERE THE PRIORITY BILLS ARE GOING. ARE THEY ON CALENDAR? DO WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO SOMEONE OR, OR HAVE THEY HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE. IT MAY GO SOMEWHERE NEXT YEAR. UM, THAT KIND OF THING. SO IT'S, IT'S CONSTANT. SO YEAH, AND LIKE WITH MOST STATE LEGISLATURES, ELECTION YEARS CAN BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO TRACK AND YOU SEE STRANGE THINGS HAPPEN. YOU CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THOSE REPORTS WITH YOU EVERY WEEK IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM. UM, I WILL SAY A LOT OF TIMES IT JUST LOOKS SUPER OVERWHELMING BECAUSE IT'S A LOT. AND, AND, AND AGAIN, THEY KNOW HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND, AND THEY'LL CALL US OR TEXAS IF WE NEED TO GET ON SOMETHING OR PRETTY WELL THE LEAGUE, VERY RARELY DO YOU SEE TRACKING DIFFERENT THINGS. FOR THE MOST PART, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE SAME TYPES OF BILLS BEING TRACKED 'CAUSE OF THE SAME INTERESTS. AND THE LEAGUE DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT AS WELL. WELL I JUST FELT LIKE, AND MAYBE IT WAS OUR PART THAT WE WEREN'T PAYING CLOSE ENOUGH ATTENTION, BUT THAT SPORTS AUTHORITY BILL THAT HILLSIDE PUT OUT, I REALLY FELT LIKE THAT THAT WAS PLAYED DOWN UNTIL IT WAS NOT. IT WAS A DONE DEAL. IT, IT, IT, I WAS ON IT LIKE A DUCK ON THE JUNE BUG AND TALKING TO JACK JOHNSON CONSTANTLY. WHAT HAPPENED THERE IS THAT BILL AFFECTED NO OTHER COMMUNITY IN THE STATE OF TENNESSEE. AND SO OTHER LEGISLATURES, THEY DIDN'T REALLY CARE. AND SO JACK KEPT TRYING TO, BUT I DON'T THINK I EVEN KNEW THAT IT WAS THAT SERIOUS. JACK KEPT TRYING TO FIGHT IT AND COMMITTEE AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND TALKED TO PEOPLE. AND I READ THAT, BUT HE CALLED ME AND SAID, IT'S, AND I'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN BEFORE WITH OTHER LEGISLATORS. HE SAID BASICALLY IT'S ON A ROLL. MM-HMM. AND IT'S NOT GONNA STOP. AND HE SAID, BECAUSE THE OTHER LEGISLATORS ACROSS THE STATE, IT DOESN'T AFFECT HIM. THEY'RE NOT GONNA LOSE VOTES BECAUSE THEY VOTED FOR THIS THING. BUT, UH, AND I THINK NELSON WAS IN COMMUNICATION WITH JACK A WHOLE LOT TOO. JACK'S A GREAT RESOURCE 'CAUSE HE'LL TELL YOU JUST STRAIGHT OUT, YEAH, THIS IS GONNA PASS OR THIS ISN'T 'CAUSE OF HIS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, BUT HOW COME IT WAS JUST YOU TWO THAT KNEW TO CALL THEM? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS THING WAS PROCEEDING LIKE THAT. YEAH, I JUST, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN BOL ALSO CHANGED HER CHART. YES. UHHUH THAT SPORTS AUTHORITY BILL. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO TWO YEARS AGO, UM, WHERE THAT ONE, I MEAN, DID JACK ALERT Y'ALL OR NO? WE BOTH ALSO, I FELT LIKE OUR LOBBYIST AT THAT POINT YEAH. SHOULD HAVE SENT OUT A RED FLAG. RED FLAG. THIS IS HAPPENING. AND WE COULD HAVE ALL BEEN ON THE PHONE OR [00:15:01] RALLYING OUR RESIDENTS. IT WAS TOO LATE. BY THE TIME WE KNEW. DID THAT BILL GO THROUGH COMMITTEE? IT DID. IT DID. AFTER WE'RE HOPING WE GET CAN THEY BYPASS COMMITTEE IN TENNESSEE? NO, THEY CANNOT. AND WHAT VICE MAYOR LITTLE IS SAYING IS FOR A PERMISSIVE BILL THAT'S ONLY, IT WASN'T, IT DIDN'T MAKE IT MANDATORY FOR US. IT DIDN'T MAKE IT MANDATORY FOR ANY OTHER CITY. AND WE DID HAVE A DIFFERENT COMPOSITION OF OUR COMMISSION. RIGHT. WE HAVE TO CALL THAT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. YES. UM, THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THEM TO KILL THAT PURPOSE OF THAT. THAT'S WHY I THINK DISTRICT REPRESENTATION IN COMMUNITIES IS LOUSY BECAUSE ANYTHING CAN PASS THROUGH IF IT'S, UNLESS IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT. RIGHT. AND, AND, AND OUR LEGISLATORS, UM, DIDN'T EVEN STAY ON BOARD. AND SO JACK DID. BUT IT, HE, I REMEMBER HIM SAYING, 'CAUSE THEY, HE SAYS, I REALLY DON'T KNOW THAT THIS WILL DO BECAUSE IT'S SO SPECIFIC. AND I WONDERED ABOUT THE, IN FACT, I THINK YOU AND I EVEN TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF IT BECAUSE IN THE PAST, THE TENNESSEE STATE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID YOU CAN'T MAKE A LAW SPECIFICALLY FOR JUST ONE COMMUNITY, BASICALLY. LIKE IT KIND OF HAS TO APPLY TO THOSE STATE. BUT THEY WROTE IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT THERE WAS NO OTHER COMMUNITY. I THINK OUR EUROPEAN B LAW WAS KIND THAT WAY TOO. WE REQUESTED THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR LOBBYISTS HELP GETS. SO THAT'S WOULDN'T WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE NECESSARILY. SO, AND SOMETIMES THERE ARE SOME, SOME TRICKS RIGHT OR WRONG TO KEEP THINGS UNDER THE RADAR. ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'RE JUST A FEW WORDS BEING CHANGED. IT CAN HAVE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, DIFFERENCE. I REMEMBER BACK IN MISSOURI, WE HAD ONE AND EVERYBODY MISSED IT. THE LOBBYISTS MISSED IT, THE LEAGUE MISSED IT. 'CAUSE WE WERE FOCUSED ON A PARTICULAR TAX REVENUE AND UH, IT AFFECTED A DIFFERENT TAX REVENUE AND IT WAS MORE ON UTILITY STUFF AND ENDED UP COSTING US A MILLION DOLLARS AND WE WERE FOCUSED ON ONE THAT WAS MORE OF A $200,000 ONE. AND NOBODY CAUGHT THAT. I WAS, I WAS REALLY NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT, BUT I SAW HOW THEY DID IT. IT WAS JUST A FEW WORDS AND IT GOT UNDER THE RADAR. SO IT CAN BE DIFFICULT. AND, AND I WILL SAY TOO, MY EXPERIENCE HERE IS YOUR LEGISLATURE, THE PROCESS SEEMS TO BE REALLY PRETTY GOOD. UH, AND AND YOU SHOULD APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE WHERE I CAME FROM IN MISSOURI, UM, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, IS THE, THE, UH, SAME KIND OF PARTY, UH, DOMINANCE, REALLY REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THEY WERE PRETTY SPLIT THEMSELVES. AND SO THEY HAD PROBABLY GET SOME BILLS PASSED, GET TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. AND IT GOT STARTED TO GET REALLY BUSY AFTER THE APPROPRIATION BILLS. THEY COULD GET THROUGH THOSE THE LAST WEEK OR TWO, ESPECIALLY THE LAST WEEK, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, IS YOU WOULD HAVE CERTAIN BILLS THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH COMMITTEE AND, AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, BUT YOU'D HAVE SOME THAT DIDN'T STILL GET OUT THERE FOR A FLOOR FLOOR VOTE. AND THEN THEY WOULD START CREATING OMNIBUS BILLS WHERE THEY WOULD ATTACH BILLS TO EACH OTHER, OTHER, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OF THE SAME TOPIC. BUT THAT CAN BE PRETTY BROAD. AND IT WAS REALLY HARD TO TRACK LAST WEEK, IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE DAYS, I TOLD FOLKS IT WAS LIKE A TORNADO. AND I SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA SEE A TREASURE CHEST DUMPED IN YOUR YARD OR, OR IF YOU'RE GONNA GET HIT IN THE HEAD BY A VEHICLE. MM-HMM . I COULDN'T TELL. AND SO IT WAS REALLY HARD TO TRACK HERE. IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR PROCESS IS REALLY PRETTY SOUND AND YOU, AND YOU USUALLY CAN KEEP UP WITH STUFF AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD. SO I THINK YOU SHOULD BE APPRECIATIVE THERE. THAT LAST TWO WEEKS THOUGH, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN GREAT. GETS BUSY BECAUSE MY MOM LOBBIED MM-HMM . FREE LOBBYISTS FOR AN ORGANIZATION IN THE EIGHTIES AND AND INTO THE NINETIES. AND, AND LIKE THEY WOULD BE PROMISED DIFFERENT THINGS. IT WAS TO PREDICT SMALL BUSINESS THINGS. AND UH, AND IT GETS THAT LAST WEEK OR TWO AND IT WOULD BE LIKE PEOPLE JUST TOTALLY CHANGING THEIR VOTE LAST MINUTE. THEY'D BE IN THE GALLERY AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, THEY PROMISED FOR TWO MONTHS THAT THEY WHATEVER. SO THEY CAN BE THAT WAY HERE. SO IT IS GOOD THAT THEY ALL HAVE TO GO THROUGH COMMITTEE THOUGH. 'CAUSE THEN THAT KEEPS 'EM FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUT THERE COMING UP. WELL, JUST SO WE DON'T FIND OUT IN WILLIAMS OR WRONG BEFORE WE FIND OUT . THAT'S BECOME A GREAT SOURCE OF NEWS FOR ME. YES. BUSY ENOUGH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, NEXT ITEM IS AN AGREEMENT WITH NIXON POWER SERVICES, THE GENERAT GENERATOR REPLACEMENT AT, UH, STATION, FIRE STATION NUMBER FOUR. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW, UH, BACKUP POWER GENERATORS AT MULTIPLE FACILITIES, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE A CRITICAL SERVICES WHEN POWER GOES OUT. THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL. WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT. UH, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND REPLACE THE ONE AT SERVING STATION FOUR. WE SOLICITED TWO QUOTES FROM OUR TWO PRIMARY MANUFACTURERS. WE HAVE FOUR GENERATOR COMPANIES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, BUT THE, THE, THE TWO THAT HAVE THE MOST OF OUR GENERATORS, UH, ONE IS KOHLER, UH, RECO, THEY HAVE FOUR, AND THEN CUMMINS HAS FIVE. THE OTHER IS JUST, WE HAVE ONE GENERAC, SMALL GENERAC, AND THEN JOHN DEERE. SO WE LOOKED, UH, DIRECTLY AT CUMMINS AND AT KOHLER ROCO AND GOT QUOTES. AND THE QUOTES. UH, THE, LET'S SEE, CUMMINS WAS, UH, AN AMOUNT OF 45,200. AND, UH, NIXON POWER SERVICES, THE, UH, REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR RECO, WHICH IS A SUCCESSOR [00:20:01] COMPANY. KOHLER IS A 39 5 20. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER. UH, VERY COMFORTABLE WITH BOTH OF THOSE. AND SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UH, A WAIVER OF THE COMPETITIVE SELECTION AWARD, THE PURCHASE TO NIXON POWER SERVICES. WE HAVE THE QUOTE, WE ALREADY HAVE, IN ESSENCE A COMPETITIVE APPROACH, SO WE KNOW THE LOWEST PRICE. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO TO REPLACE THE, UH, GENERATOR AT FIRE STATION NUMBER FOUR. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THIS IS, UH, AUTHORIZES THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO, TO THE SERVICE AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH BRIGHTVIEW LANDSCAPES IN BRIGHTVIEW PROVIDES LANDSCAPING SERVICES FOR A LOT OF OUR FACILITIES. UH, MUNICIPAL CENTER, SERVICE CENTER, LIBRARY, POLICE HEADQUARTERS, AND HISTORIC HOMES. UM, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, UH, ADD FIRE STATIONS, UH, TWO, FOUR, AND FIVE, UH, TO THAT AND THEN CONSOLIDATE INTO A SINGLE AGREEMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES. AND SO THE COST IS, UH, $70,584 AND 84 CENTS. THAT'S FOR THE THREE FIRE STATIONS. AND THEN THEY WOULD ADD 'EM ALL INTO A SINGLE AGREEMENT. QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? I'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THEM AS WELL. OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T DO THAT. ALRIGHT. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, AUTHORIZING US TO ESTABLISH GATEWAY SIGNAGE IN THE CITY. THIS IS, WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SORT OF OFF TOPIC A LITTLE, BUT SORT OF ON TOPIC ON THIS. BUT, UH, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT OUR GATEWAY SIGNAGE IN, IN THE PHASES. AND WE'RE IN, UH, PHASE TWO RIGHT NOW, UH, WHICH BEGAN IN FEBRUARY. AND THAT INCLUDES DESIGN PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION. AND WORKING WITH STV HAS DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB FOR US. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO SITES RIGHT NOW TO BEGIN WITH. ACTUALLY HAVE SIGNS CONSTRUCTED, AND I'LL SHOW THOSE. UH, ONE IS LOCATED SOUTHBOUND EXIT RAMP OF INTERSTATE 65 AND CONCORD ROAD. AND THE OTHER IS THE, UH, THE, UH, SOUTH LOCATION ON WILSON PIKE WHEN YOU COME INTO TOWN. UM, THIS ACTION SPECIFICALLY IS JUST A RESOLUTION THAT, THAT THE, UH, TENNESSEE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REQUIRES THAT JUST SAYS WE SUPPORT THE PROJECT. IT'S, IT'S REALLY GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS. BUT I WANNA TALK ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS, UH, WITH THIS. SO THIS IS PRETTY EASY ITEM, BUT THERE'S A MAP THAT SHOWS THE LOCATIONS AS I JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE CONCORD LOCATION AT 65, AND THEN THE SPLIT LOG LOCATION SOUTH PART OF TOWN. UH, AGAIN, JUST AS A REMINDER OF THE FINAL DESIGN, UH, THE GENERALLY THE GENERAL DESIGN THAT EVERYONE, UH, HAD CONSENSUS ON, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY ATTRACTIVE, NICE SIGNS. UH, FOR THE, THE PRIMARY SIGNS. THERE'S A CLOSEUP OF THE LOCATION AT, UH, 65 IN CONCORD, UH, WHICH YOU'RE USED TO SEEING ALREADY. UH, BUT IT SHOWS YOU RIGHT IN THERE. NOW THE RED LINE IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT. UH, THE TDOT WANTS YOU TO BE, IT SAYS 16, 18 FEET OFFSET. THEY WANT YOU AWAY FROM THE PAVEMENT. SO I DON'T WANT CARS, VEHICLES HITTING THOSE SIGNS AND SO FORTH. WE UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT'S FINE. AND THAT SHOWS THE APPLICATION THERE AT 65 IN CONCORD. SO NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. UM, ALL RIGHT. THIS IS SOUTH WILSON PIKE. AND UM, LET'S SEE. I DON'T HAVE MY POINTER, BUT YOU CAN, LEMME GO GRAB THE POINTER REAL QUICK. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE GATEWAY SIDE NUMBER TWO IS IN FRONT OF THE TREE RIGHT THERE. YEAH. POWER POINTER. I LIKE THOSE. BURN THE HOLE RIGHT THROUGH THE SCREEN. , DO NOT USE IT OUTSIDE IN, IN THE AIR. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT, RIGHT HERE. AND, AND AS YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU OH, I JUST LOST ALL THE POWER THEN JIN IT. THAT WAS GONNA HAVE TO GET A BATTERY. WE HAVE ANOTHER THOUGH. ALRIGHT. HAVE TO GO THE OLD FASHIONED WAY. GET THE, I WANT OKAY. WITH RED GREEN. MUST TAKE UP TOO MUCH POWER. I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING INTO TOWN ON, ON WILSON PIKE, YOU SEE THAT SIGN RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE TREES THAT YOU SEE, UH, IN THE MEDIAN OF THE ROADWAY. AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT LOCATION. IT'S A GREAT GATEWAY LOCATION. THE PROBLEM IS, IS YOU SEE THE TWO RED LINES, IT'S A LITTLE TIGHT AND TDO SAYS IT'S TOO TIGHT FOR THAT OFFSET FROM THE ROADWAY. THEY'D LIKE US TO MOVE IT UP FURTHER NORTH. THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD GRAPHIC, BUT IT'S SORT OF IN THE, THERE'S SORT OF AN OPENING, BUT IT'S BASICALLY AFTER YOU GET START LOOKING AT THE GROVE OF TREES THERE IN THE MEDIAN, I DROVE IT AND I I'M GONNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO DRIVE IT. I DROVE IT. I DIDN'T LIKE THAT LOCATION. IT'S, IT'S SHADED A LITTLE BIT MORE. DOESN'T HIGHLIGHT THE SIGN. TO ME, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A GATEWAY. UH, HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF CHOICE IN THIS. THERE IS A SPOT, AND THIS DOESN'T SHOW, IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH ON THE RIGHT SIDE IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE IN THE MIDDLE, IT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE AS WELL. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT. I'M, I'M JUST TALKING OUT LOUD RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ANALYZED IT. UH, BUT IT'S AN OPEN SPOT. YOU CAN SEE A FIRE HYDRANT. THERE SEEMS TO BE SPACE. DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS. I'M JUST, I THINK WE WANNA WORK WITH THEM ON THIS LOCATION A LITTLE BIT. I I, I I, I WANT OTHER EYES TO LOOK AT THAT, WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING IT TO BE FURTHER UP INTO THESE TREES. IT'D BE ABOUT RIGHT IN HERE. UM, I JUST DIDN'T THINK IT FELT LIKE A GATEWAY. AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. BUT I, THAT'S JUST, THOSE ARE MY EYES. NOT EVERYONE ELSE FROM BOTTOM TO TOP IT THAT'S HEADED NORTH, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. YES. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. [00:25:01] I'M, I WAS GONNA SAY SUPPOSED TO BE, BUT SEE THE LEGEND YOU'RE WANTING TO RIGHT NOW, YOU'LL SEE A SIGN RIGHT HERE. THAT'S OUR OLD SIGN. EXACTLY. AND TDOT SAYS TO GET THAT IT OPENS UP FURTHER. YEAH, MY FIRST CAMPAIGN, UH, CAMPAIGN LITERATURE, MY PICTURE WAS TAKEN THERE. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT. AND CHARLES SAYS, CHARLES OVER HERE, UH, THERE YOU CHARLES, THIS IS SHOWING 1618 AHEAD OF THAT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE RECOMMENDING IT BEING UP IN MORE THE TREES. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FRANKLIN COULD BE S HUMANS DOWN HERE. YEAH, IT SHOULD BE. BECAUSE THIS IS NORTH. SO I CAN SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND. YEAH. DEREK, PLEASE. SO THE GRAPHIC, I'M NOT, IT IS NOT, THE GRAPHIC ISN'T CONFUSING BECAUSE IT POINTS TO THIS LINE. MM-HMM . BUT, UH, THIS IS THE CLEAR ZONE FOR THE LANE GOING THIS WAY. THIS IS THE CLEAR ZONE LIMITS FOR THE LANE GOING THIS WAY. SO THERE'S NO SPOT TO PUSH. OH, I, I SEE, I SEE HOW THAT'S REPRESENTED. YEAH. SO THIS IS, THAT'S WHERE THEY CROSS, THIS IS THE CLEAR ZONE OF THIS LANE, THE CLEAR THIS YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. IT WON'T CONVERGE UNTIL IT'S OFF THE, YEAH. SO THAT MAKES SENSE. SO THERE'S NO SPACE IN ANY OF THIS. YOU HAVE TO GO FURTHER IN WHERE THE MEDIAN WIDENS WELL IN FRONT OF THOSE TREES. THIS IS A TWO SIDED SIGN. YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE BACK SIDE BACKED UP TO THOSE TREES. MM-HMM . YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WELL, AND BACKED UP TO THOSE TREES, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T, THAT'S WHERE THE ONE IS NOW. GET A SIGN, BUT THEY'RE GONNA HIT THOSE TREES. MM-HMM . I MEAN, YEAH, THE TREES ARE THERE. HOW LONG HAS THE SIGN BEEN THERE AND HOW MANY TIMES HAVE PEOPLE HIT IT? UH, TOO LONG. ONE SIDED SIGN. SORRY. IT IS A ONE-SIDED SIGN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THAT WELCOMING IN, IT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE STATE, CITY LIMIT. HAS IT EVER BEEN HIT? DO WE KNOW? THAT'S THE THING. WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE CITY LIMITS. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. SO I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE, I WANT TALK WITH THEM. I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION BECAUSE THERE'S A LOCATION, YOU THINK OF TREES, IT'S RIGHT AS YOU GET MET BY THE TREES. IT'S NOT PERFECTLY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR CITY LIMIT GOES FURTHER SOUTH THAN ON THE WEST, ON THE EAST SIDE THAN ON THE WEST SIDE. BUT, BUT IT'S A REALLY GOOD LOCATION. I, I JUST, I THINK WE'RE GONNA TRY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO 'EM AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBLE WAY THEY CAN RECONSIDER. WHAT DO THEY MEAN BY CLEAR ZONE VIEW THAT THE PA THAT A PERSON DRIVING HAS OF WHAT DO THEY, WHAT IS THEIR GOAL THERE? YES. YES MA'AM. A CLEAR ZONE IN, IN TERMS OF T DOT LANGUAGE WOULD BE THAT, THAT AREA THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE CLEAR OF OBSTRUCTIONS SO THAT IF A CAR HAPPENS TO RUN OFF OF THE ROAD, THEY WOULDN'T HIT IT IMMEDIATELY. THEY'D HAVE A BIT OF TIME TO SLOW DOWN. IT'S A BUFFER BETWEEN THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT AND ANY HARD PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION. AND DOES THAT INCLUDE, UM, THE SIDES OF THE ROAD TOO? THEN THERE'D BE A CLEAR ZONE, NOT JUST FOR MEDIAN, BUT, SO LIKE, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD MM-HMM . UM, ON THE EAST SIDE THERE, IT WOULD HAVE TO KEEP 16 FEET OF CLEAR. YOU'D HAVE A CLEAR ZONE WHEREVER YOU ZONE ON THE OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. AND, AND I BELIEVE, I'M GONNA, CHARLES, I'M GONNA LOOK, BECAUSE THIS IS A PRIMARY ENTRANCE SIGN. THIS IS NOT, WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT LIKE BREAKAWAY MATERIAL, BUT THIS IS, I'M ASSUMING, AND I'M GONNA ASK, INDIANA IS HERE WITH THIS AS WELL. THIS IS MORE OF A PERMANENTLY AFFIXED TYPE SIGN, WHICH IS WHY THE, WHICH IS OR IS IT? NO, THIS STILL HAS THE BREAKAWAY, IT STILL HAS THE BREAKAWAY THAT'S REQUIRED FOR, OKAY. SO, OKAY. SO THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION WHY THERE'S SO MUCH EMPHASIS ON THE CLEAR ZONE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A BREAKAWAY SIGN VERSUS A PERMANENT SIGN. WELL, IS I AGREE, IS THIS WIDER THAN THE CURRENT SIGN? THAT'S A PRETTY BIG SIGN WE'VE GOT OUT THERE. IT IS A LITTLE LIGHTER THAN THE GREEN. IT IS SMALLER THAN THE ONE ON COMMONWEALTH, BUT IT'S BIGGER THAN, I MEAN, I, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT IF YOU HAVE THE PROPER BREAKAWAY MATERIALS AND SO FORTH, THEN THE CLEAR, THE CLEAR ZONE WOULDN'T BE AS BIG AS AN ISSUE. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. AND I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP TALKING TO 'EM, BUT SURE. THIS ACTION DOESN'T LOCK YOU IN TO THAT LOCATION. WE CAN STILL TALK ABOUT THE LOCATION. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. BUT, BUT THIS, BUT THIS TIMELY MAKES SENSE TO, UH, TALK ABOUT THE LOCATION. SO THIS IS JUST REALLY SAYING THAT YES, THE CITY COMMISSION DOES WANT TO WORK WITH ONE OF OUR OWN EMPLOYEES OR TWO OF OUR OWN EMPLOYEES TO PUT SIGNS UP. IS THAT, YEAH, THIS IS A ROUTINE ITEM THAT JUST SAYS IT, IT'S KIND OF A CHECKBOX FOR 'EM. IT JUST SAYS, YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD WITH THEM DOING THIS. THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE AUTHORIZING THIS TO WORK WITH. IF THE TENNESSEE ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL HAD THE SAME PROCESS, THEN THE ARBORETUM WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. OKAY. VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD POINT. TO NELSON'S POINT, YOU NEED TO STAY IN OUR CITY LIMITS, I THINK FOR OUR GATEWAY. AND I DO WANT TO COMMENT BASED ON MY READING OF A LOCAL POLITICAL COLUMN, A GATEWAY SIGN HAS ALMOST BROUGHT DOWN ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. IS THAT RIGHT? BUT IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO DRIVE THAT, PLEASE DO. UH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TALK WITH THEM SOME MORE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY FLEXIBILITY THERE AT ALL. [00:30:01] I REALLY THINK THE CURRENT LOCATION, IF IT FROM A GATEWAY PERSPECTIVE, IS A VERY GOOD LOCATION AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR NEED. BUT IF IT'S, IF WE DO HAVE THE BREAKAWAY TYPE SIGN, MAYBE THAT'LL HELP US OUT. WE'LL SEE. SO IF WE HAVE TO COME NORTH WITH IT, ARE WE ALSO GOING TO PUT ANOTHER LANDSCAPE AREA BEHIND IT, OR IS IT GONNA BE SITTING OUT THERE IN A CLEAR SPACE? IT WON'T BE AN ENTIRELY CLEAR SPACE. I I, I'D HAVE TO, I DON'T KNOW, DAN, IF YOU HAVE THAT ANSWER OR NOT. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, THERE IS A LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. SO THERE IS A LANDSCAPING, THERE IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN. OKAY. SO AGAIN, UNLESS WE WOULD CHOOSE THEN TO CHANGE ANYTHING, IT WOULD BE THE SAME LANDSCAPING PLAN. OKAY. YEAH. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT, THEN THIS, RIGHT? YEAH, THERE YOU GO. C OH, OKAY. YES. OKAY. YEAH, I'M SORRY. NEXT, NEXT SLIDE. . SO THERE YOU GO. IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA RIGHT THERE. SIGN, FACE AND LANDSCAPING IN FRONT. BUT WE DO WANT TO BE SURE IT CAN, I MEAN, GIVEN WHERE TDOT IS THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO WORK UNDER HERE FOR THE LOCATION SO THAT WE KNOW THAT. UM, BUT IDEALLY YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN YOU WANT IT TO BE FEEL LIKE A GATEWAY. YOU WANT THOSE THINGS. OTHERWISE IT RAISES A QUESTION OF DO YOU WANT TO SPEND THE DOLLARS TO PUT THE SIGN THERE? AND SO WE NEED TO THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT THAT. AND SO IDEALLY, IF WE CAN STAY IN THE LOCATION WE ARE, IT'S A REALLY GOOD LOCATION. IF WE CAN'T, AND I MAY COME BACK AND SAY, DO YOU STILL WANT TO HAVE A SIGN AT THAT LOCATION, AT THAT END OF TOWN? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UM, BUT THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE YOU TO DRIVE AND TAKE A LOOK YOURSELF. AND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET AN ANSWER LIKE THAT BACK? WE'RE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM RIGHT NOW. I WOULD THINK IT WOULDN'T PROBABLY TAKE TOO LONG. OKAY. YEAH. I THINK, YEAH, IT SHOULD. AND WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WE KNOW PRETTY WELL WE'RE RESPONSIVE FOLKS. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE AT ALL. YEP. VERY NICE RESPONSIVE FOLKS. AND THEY HAVE RULES TO GO BY AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND A FORMER BRENTWOOD ENGINEER WHO CAME TO US FROM TDOT AND WENT BACK TO TDOT IS WORKING ON THIS APPLICATION. YEAH. SO THAT'S ALL GOOD. OKAY. VERY GOOD. WE'RE NOT NAMING NAMES . OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, CONSENT ITEM SEVEN IS AUTHORIZATION AUTHORIZING AMENDMENT OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY FOR RECEIPT OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN GRANT FUNDS. THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD ONE, AND THIS IS ONE I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO REALLY, UH, SHOW APPRECIATION FOR WILLIAMSON COUNTY FOR SUPPORTING THIS AS WELL. SO, UH, IN, IN, UH, AT THE END OF 24, UH, YOU GUYS APPROVED CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH JOHN BOUCHARD AND SON'S, UH, COMPANY FOR THE WATER SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR EMERGENCY GENERATOR PROJECT. AND THAT WAS ABOUT ALL JUST SHORT OF A $1.1 MILLION, UH, UH, AMOUNT OF APA FUNDS. PLUS WE HAD CITY CONTRIBUTION IN THERE. SO IT WAS A LARGE PROJECT, AND THAT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD HAVE EMERGENCY GENERATORS AT ALL THE IMPORTANT PUMPS AND PUMP STATIONS AND ALL OF THAT. SO WHEN WE LOSE ELECTRICITY, WE KEEP THE, UH, SYSTEM GOING, UM, AGAIN THROUGH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT GRANT PROGRAM THROUGH THE TENNESSEE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CONSERVATION, AND THEN THROUGH WILLIAMSON COUNTY. SO IN THAT, IN THAT, UH, THEY CREATED THE PATHWAY THROUGH WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND THEN, UH, AGAIN, MULTIPLE WATER AND WASTEWATER LOCATIONS, UH, AND INCLUDES ALSO SUPPORTABLE GENERATORS, PORTABLE BYPASS, PUMPING, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD NEED. UH, AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL GRANT AWARD WAS TO ABOUT, UH, JUST A LITTLE OVER 1.1 MILLION. IT'S 1.1 MILLION $89,665. UH, SINCE THAT TIME, WILLIAMSON COUNTY RECEIVED ADDITIONAL ARP FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF TENNESSEE FOR THE SAME PURPOSE. UM, AND SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE GONNA PASS THAT DOWN TO US TO OFFSET OUR CONTRIBUTION. SO IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE PROJECT AT ALL, BUT IT WILL TAKE THE CONTRIBUTION FROM $1,089,665 TO $1,865,911. SO IT'LL OFFSET OUR, UTIL OUR CONTRIBUTION FOR THAT PROJECT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S A TERRIFIC, TERRIFIC, TERRIFIC THING. AND SO, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST OUR, OUR, UH, ACTION FOR THAT AND, UH, IT'S GREAT NEWS AND I THINK THIS IS ONE WE WANT TO BE SURE AND THANK OUR FOLKS ON THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY COMMISSION. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. UH, CONSENT ITEM EIGHT, PURCHASE OF A 2026 CHEVROLET TAHOE FROM FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT. UH, THIS IS A PURCHASE OF A RE A VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, UH, AGAIN ON ADDING TO THE FLEET 20 26 4 WHEEL DRIVE TAHOE, UH, FROM, UH, WILSON COUNTY ORDERS UNDER A STATEWIDE CONTRACT. UH, THE TOTAL IS 60,504. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD REPLACEMENT ITEM QUESTIONS. CONSENT ITEM NINE IS, UH, APPROVAL TO PURCHASE MOTOROLA ANNUAL RADIO MAINTENANCE. AS YOU KNOW, MOTOROLA IS, IS THE LEADING COMPANY IN, IN, IN THESE TYPES OF RADIOS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. [00:35:01] UH, THIS IS OUR ANNUAL RADIO MAINTENANCE. IT'S DIVIDED BETWEEN THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD, CITY OF FRANKLIN, WILLIAMSON COUNTY. SO WE DO THIS COLLECTIVELY. OUR PORTION IS, UH, IS $223,997. AND THAT DOES INCLUDE, UH, WHAT THEY CALL SYSTEM UPGRADE AGREEMENTS. SO THE SOFTWARE ATTACHED TO THE RADIOS, IT GETS UPGRADED. THERE'S NO EXTRA COST, IT'S ALL INCLUDED. AND THAT, AGAIN, TOTAL IS 223,997, UH, DOLLARS. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS? ARE THESE THE, DOES THIS INCLUDE BOTH, LIKE KIND OF THE HOME BASE OF THE RE AND THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS THAT PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD CARRY, LIKE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EVERYTHING? WAS IT JUST FOR THE SYSTEM AND KIND OF CONTROLLING THAT? I, I BELIEVE IT'S ALL THE, I'M GONNA, I DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS. I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU FOR SURE, BUT I, I BELIEVE IT'S ALL OF THE, THE HANDHELD RADIOS, VEHICLE RADIOS, ALL THE MOTOR PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT ARE RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE RADIO SYSTEM. OKAY. YEAH. I'LL, I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF IT. IT SEEMS LIKE A HIGH AMOUNT IF IT'S JUST A, UM, YEAH, LIKE THE BASE. OH, I, I KNOW IT, I KNOW IT INCLUDES ALL THE HANDHELD RADIOS. THERE'S MAINTENANCE WITH THOSE. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, THAT I'M SURE OF. THE RADIOS ALWAYS SEEM REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE. AND THEN WHEN WE REALLY, REALLY NEED 'EM, IT SEEMS PRETTY AFFORDABLE. OKAY. TRUE. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT WAS THAT WE WERE PAYING FOR THE WHOLE PACKAGE OF THAT AMOUNT YEAH. ON INDEPENDENCE DAY AT CROCKETT PARK. MM-HMM. OR SIT AND TALK WITH CHIEF COLVIN AND TALKED WITH OTHER SAFETY PERSONNEL MM-HMM . AND THEN LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY AS BAD HIS CELL PHONE SERVICE AND ALL THAT IS IN THAT PARK. YEAH. IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE TIME WE WERE CONVERSATING, HE'S GOT ALL THE, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS GOING ON, ALL THE RADIOS BASICALLY RIGHT THERE. AND I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THE SAME THING. I THOUGHT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT YOU WAS BAD EVEN A, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL SITUATION, THAT IMMEDIATE RESPONSE BECAUSE OF THOSE RADIOS AND, AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD RADIOS AND IF YOU'VE EVER LISTENED TO RADIOS, SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT REAL CLEAR. IT'S MORE LIKE THOSE RADIOS ACTUALLY I THOUGHT WERE VERY CLEAR. WELL GOOD. YEAH. YOU DUMP 'EM IN WATER AND YOU SHOULD BE OKAY. DROP SHOULD BE OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING THAN THE WALMART RADIOS WE HAVE. YES, EXACTLY. LOOKS BETTER THAN THE WALKIE TALKIES USE AS A KID. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. BUT THAT'S, WELL, HOW DOES MAINTENANCE OCCUR? I MEAN, DO THEY, UH, COLLECT THE RADIOS AND THEY DO IT ALL AT ONCE? WHY DO THEY COME AND DO IT INDIVIDUAL? HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? WELL, THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU DO, AND I'M NOT A RADIO EXPERT WITH THAT, BUT, UH, I DON'T, WE WE, WHAT WE DON'T DO IS WE DON'T TAKE 'EM ALL OUTTA SERVICES. I WAS GONNA ASK WHERE THEY ALL, YOU'LL DEAL WITH THEM. THERE MAY BE TIME CYCLES IN WHICH WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS 'EM, BUT THEN YOU ROTATE THROUGH, MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE. YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE THEY'RE THAT IMPORTANT. I WOULD THINK MOST OF THE MAINTENANCE IS PROBABLY BATTERY RELATED, THAT TYPE OF THING I WOULD EXPECT. SO THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE YES. NOW THEY CAN DO SOFTWARE UPDATES ON THEM INDIVIDUALLY TOO. SO RADIOS ARE A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN THEY USED TO BE. I'LL SAY THAT THEY'RE LITTLE COMPUTERS, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE COST, BUT IN THE FIRE TRAINING THEY WERE SAYING WHAT THE ONE INDIVIDUAL AND IT WAS A STAGGERING AMOUNT. THE ONE, BUT WHAT IT DOES AND HOW IT, IT CONNECTS TO EVERYTHING. I MEAN, AS WELL, LIKE, LIKE MAYOR SAID, IT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT WHEN YOU NEED IT, IT'S MM-HMM. WELL WORTH EVERY PENNY OF IT. YEAH. IT CAN BE A LIFELINE. THAT'S REALLY HOW YOU, HOW WE EMPHASIZE THAT THOSE RADIOS CAN BE A LIFELINE, SO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, LET'S SEE. NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE AS AN ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHES THE, UH, OSRD AND R TWO ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED WEST OF HILLSBOROUGH ROAD IN SOUTH OF OLD HICKORY BOULEVARD. BUT WE CALLED CRUISE SUBDIVISION. WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR THE ANNEXATIONS AT ALMOST 77 ACRES. THERE'S A, A GRAPHIC THAT JUST AS A REMINDER OF WHERE THAT'S AT AND CLICK THROUGH REAL QUICK THAT SHOWS THE PRIMARY AREA TO BE DEVELOPED. AND, UH, WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS ATTACHES THE ZONING AND THE, UH, WE HAVE 53, ALMOST 54 ACRES OF IT. THAT WILL BE OSRD. AND THEN THE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL OF THESE LOTS RIGHT HERE. AND THERE'S ONE LOT THAT WOULD IS R TWO. SO WHEN YOU SEE THE ACREAGE OF 23.9, THAT'S ONE LARGE LOT IS, IS R TWO. THE REST OF IT IS O IS ALL R-O-S-R-D. AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT THIS ACTION DOES. IT ASSIGNS THE ZONING AND THEN AFTER THIS ACTION, THERE'S STILL MULTIPLE ACTIONS. THERE'S A REQUIRED COMMUNITY MEETING AT, AT THE END OF JULY IN THE, HERE IN THE ANNEX ROOM PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION OF THE ORDINANCE TO ASSIGN THE ZONING. THAT THEN HAPPENED IN EARLY AUGUST, MID-AUGUST. THE, UH, UH, YOU WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ORDINANCE ASSIGNING THE ZONING, UH, LATE AUGUST, UH, WE'LL HAVE THE [00:40:01] REVIEW AND FINAL RESOLUTION ANNEXING THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE SECOND READING AT THE END OF AUGUST, SIGNING THE, UH, ZONING. SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE STEPS AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE STEPS, BUT THIS ASSIGNS THE ZONING FOR THOSE. ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS, UM, LESS ABOUT THE ZONING AND MORE ABOUT MAYBE ENGINEERING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RIGHT TO ASK YOU ALL OR WE NEED ASK. SO I KNOW WE'VE GOT, UH, THE FLOODWAY AND THE OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, LABELED THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE HARP COMES RIGHT THROUGH THERE. I HAVE THAT HERE AS WE, AS WE KNOW BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OUR PUMP STATION AND OUR EQUALIZATION TANK JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEST OF THAT. OH YES. ALONG HARPETH. SO WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD GOING ON, YOU KNOW, THE NORTH SIDE SIDE OF THAT PARCEL, IS THAT NATURALLY OUTTA THE FLOODWAY IN THE FLOODPLAIN OR ARE THEY HAVING TO DO SITE WORK TO GET IT UP OUT OF THE FLOODWAY IN THE, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT TODD, BUT I BELIEVE ON THE SOUTH END THERE IS SITE WORK. THERE IS SITE, YEAH. YES. ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UH, IS THAT GONNA AFFECT DOWNSTREAM ON VERY MUCH OR IS IT GONNA IMPROVE THE FLOODING FOR DOWN DOWNSTREAM PEOPLE OR, I KNOW WE'RE TRYING, I KNOW THAT'S CAN TYPICALLY SAY IT'LL IMPROVE, BUT OUR, OUR STORM WATER REGULATIONS, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT A LARGE DETENTION POND IN THERE YEAH. AND MANAGE THE STORM WATER FROM THE OSRD PORTION, IT, IT WILL BE, IT WILL MAKE IT BETTER, YOU KNOW, FROM A, FROM WHERE IT IS EXISTING NOW, IT'LL BE CONTROLLED IN THAT POND. SO, BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO BE DOING A GOOD BIT OF COMPENSATION TO BRING THE O-S-O-S-R-D PORTION UP OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN AND THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GET A LO OUR LOW MORE LEAVE CONDITIONAL LETTER APPROVAL. SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE PROCEDURES TO, TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE NOT HAVING ANY IMPACT TO DOWNSTREAM, SIR. GOTCHA. THE RAPID RAINFALLS THAT WE HAD THIS LAST WEEK WERE LIKE AT MY HOUSE HAD DROPPED THREE AND A FOUR INCHES PROBABLY IN LESS THAN AN HOUR. YES. AND IT WAS LAST THURSDAY, THE THURSDAY BEFORE THE FOURTH, I BELIEVE IT WAS. YES. OR MAYBE IT WAS THAT FRIDAY. UM, THAT THOSE A LARGE DEPEN DETENTION PONDS DO HELP IN THE FACT THAT IT SLOWS THE FLOW OF THE WATER OFF THE SITE WHEN YOU'RE HAVING THOSE, I MEAN, LIKE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE Y THAT WAS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RAINFALL THAT WAS. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS EVEN AS BIG AS THE ONE THAT IT HAPPENED THREE OR FOUR DAYS EARLIER. IT JUST, IT CAME DOWN SO FAST. YEAH. IT, IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE INTENSITY. SO I MEAN THOSE, WE PROBABLY GOT THE MAJORITY OF THAT ABOUT 45 MINUTES OF ABOUT TWO INCHES OF RAIN. YES. SO I MEAN THAT EQUATED TO BETWEEN A FIVE AND 10 YEAR STORM EVENT, YOU KNOW, SO. RIGHT. UM, AND, AND JASON, AND GENERALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR STORM DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS OR, OR, OR ORDINANCE AND OUR RULES, THE, THE POINT OR THE, THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT WORSE THAN IT, WHATEVER IT WAS, IT CAN GET WORSE IN WATER QUALITIES. RIGHT. WE BASICALLY SAY THEY'RE, YOU'RE 25 YEAR POST HAS TO LEAVE AT THE TWO YEAR PRE. SO WE, WE HAVE BUILT IN STORAGE IN OUR DETENTION FUNDS, YOU KNOW, AS A BUNCH OF OUR ORDERS. YEP. JUST ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION ON THE BACK WHERE IT'S, UM, THERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE THAT IT SHOWED THE REST, THE FULL, UM, PART OF IT WHERE IT'S GONNA BE, UM, ONE MORE THAT ONE, SORRY. THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. OKAY. WHERE THE R TWO ZONING RESERVE PARCEL. SO HOW MANY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ACREAGE THAT IS. IF SOMEBODY ASKS HOW MANY MORE HOUSES IS THAT TO BE DEVELOPED OR IS IT YET TO BE DETER? I MEAN THAT TO BE DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE 24 ACRE LOT. SO SINGLE, SO ONE HOUSE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH. SO, SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A RESERVE PARCEL UNTIL THEY CAN SECURE LEGAL FRONTAGE FOR THAT LOT. UM, YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, I DIDN'T, AND IT'S, AND IT'S IN, IT'S EATEN UP WITH FLOODPLAIN. YEAH. THAT'S, SO THERE'S REALLY JUST ONE LITTLE SPOT WHERE A POTENTIAL HOME COULD BE PLACED IN THE FUTURE IF THEY SECURE LEGAL ROAD FRONTAGE. OKAY. GOTCHA. YEAH. I JUST COULD SEE SOMEBODY LOOKING AT THAT AND SAYING HOW MANY MORE HOUSES ARE COMING AND TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, ARE YOU POINTING TO THE FRONT CHAIR? GOING TO THE LITTLE SPOT? OKAY. I KNOW THAT OUR THANK YOU TO RULES ABOUT DRAINAGE HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT WHEN IT'S CHANGED, IT CAN'T BE ANY WORSE THAN IT CURRENTLY IS. AND I FELT THAT SOMETIMES THAT WORKS OUT, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T. IT, I MEAN, IT LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER ALL THE TIME AND I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE ACCURATE NUMBERS THAT THEY USE. BUT DOES THIS TAKE, IS THAT STILL TRUE WHEN PEOPLE ARE PUTTING MORE IMPERVIOUS SERVICES ON THEIR LOTS NOW? [00:45:01] I MEAN, WE CAN'T SEE FORESEE HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK. I, I THINK I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA LOOK AT THESE GUYS WHEN I SAY THIS. I THINK THAT'S TRUE. AS WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT NEWER SUBDIVISIONS UNDER THE NEWER DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS. I, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE CHANGING THE CODE THOUGH WITH STILL OLDER SUBDIVISIONS THAT WEREN'T UNDER THOSE AND THEY PUT THE BIGGER HOUSES. THAT'S WHY WE'RE MAKING THOSE CHANGES. OKAY, DEREK? YEAH. IF I COULD ADDRESS THAT JUST VERY QUICKLY. SO THE IMPERVIOUS, THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT COULD BE BUILT IN THE FUTURE IS INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN NOW. OKAY. OF THE DETENTION POTS. YEAH, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. AND AGAIN, THAT 40%, THE, THE, THE, WHEN WE, THE EARLY ITEM ON THE CHANGE IN ZONING THAT REQUIRES 40% GREEN SPACE, THAT PROBABLY WON'T HAVE A BIG EFFECT ON NEWER SUBDIVISIONS, BUT IT'S STILL LIKE I CALL THE CIRCUIT BREAKER. SO, UH, IT'S STILL GOOD BUT IT'S GONNA HAVE MORE EFFECT ON OLDER SUBDIVISIONS. UH, PROBABLY THE NEWER SUBDIVISIONS. WELL I THINK RAY MADE A GOOD POINT WHILE AGO, UH, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN WE TELL PEOPLE THAT THEY THINK THAT'S GOSPEL AND IT WILL NEVER BE DIFFERENT IF IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WE WERE REALLY WRONG, THE SPEED OF RAIN, IT'S LIKE OUR FLOOD OF 2010 MM-HMM . IT WAS SO FAST AND, AND SO MUCH RIGHT. THAT IT ALL STANDARDS WERE JUST BROKEN. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, NATURE IS THE FINAL, UH, DETERMINANT ON HOW THIS WORKS. AND AS LONG AS IT'S THE NORMAL EXPECTED, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN PLAN FOR. MM-HMM . THE 2010, THAT SATURDAY SET ALONE WAS A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD. RIGHT. AND THAT, THAT SUNDAY SET ALONE WAS A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD. AND SO THEY CALLED IT A THOUSAND YEAR FLOOD. SO IN A THOUSAND YEAR FLOOD, THESE HOUSES MIGHT BE FLOODED BECAUSE NONE OF THE COACH TELL YOU YOU HAVE TO BUILD TO A THOUSAND YEAR FLOOD. BUT THEY FIGURE, AND THE REASON I CAN SPEAK ON THIS IS 'CAUSE BACK THEN WHERE I WAS VICE MAYOR AT THAT TIME, I HAD TO GET FEMA CERTIFIED AND ALL THIS STUFF SO THE CITY COULD RECEIVE FEMA MONEY AND, UM, THE, THEY, UH, THE CHANCES OF THAT HAPPENING, AGAIN, PINPOINTED IN THIS AREA IN THE NEXT A HUNDRED YEARS OR WHATEVER, IS LIKE ALMOST A STATISTIC. IT'S NOT THAT IT COULDN'T, BUT IT'S ALMOST STATISTICALLY VERY LOW CHANCE OF IT HAPPENING AGAIN. NOW, IT MAY HAPPEN IN A THOUSAND YEARS, BUT THE STATISTICAL CHANCES HAVE HAPPENED. BUT THEY ALSO TOLD US THE, THE WEATHER PEOPLE THAT IT COULD HAPPEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, WELL IT'S LIKE WHAT THE RAIN GARDEN AND THE Y WAS SUPPOSED TO HELP SOMEBODY . IT HAS FOR, IT'S BETTER. IT HAS FOR ALMOST EVERY, I MEAN IT'S REALLY, OR EVERY TIME IT RINGS. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL SAW THE PICTURE OF THE, IT'S ACTUALLY A Y POSTS TALKING ABOUT UNDER THE LINE ENJOY OUR WATER ACTIVITIES. VERY LIMITED TIME. THERE WERE TWO KAYAKERS OUT THERE JUST RIGHT OFF THE LITTLE HARPETH, BUT WHERE IT WAS STILL FLOODED IN THE FIELDS. WELL THAT USED TO HAPPEN AT THE LIBRARY A LITTLE BIT TOO. SO THAT'S GOTTEN BETTER. THAT HAS GOTTEN BETTER. YEAH. SO ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THIS WITH THE, UH, 23.9 ACRE PARCEL MM-HMM . HOW DID WE LAND ON R TWO AND NOT LIKE AR OR R ONE? I MEAN REALLY IT LOOKS LIKE WITH A 29 OR A PARCEL THAT BIG, YOU'D USUALLY THINK THEY WOULD BE AN AR PARCEL WHERE THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME HORSES OR DO SOME STUFF LIKE THAT IF THEY'RE GONNA BUY. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, TODD QUESTION. WELL, YOU CAN STILL HAVE HORSES IN R TWO, YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE THREE ACRES. SO THE APPLICANT REQUESTED R TWO AND WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. ANY IDEA WHY THEY REQUESTED R TWO AND NOT AR? UM, PROBABLY FOR THE SETBACKS ASSOCIATED WITH R TWO UP IN THAT FAR CORNER WHERE THE POTENTIAL HOUSE WOULD BE. SO, SO WITH AR YOU'VE GOT GREATER SETBACKS FROM THE ADJOINING PROPERTY LINES, SO THEY'RE SQUEEZED IN BY THE WATER. SO THEY WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF WITH THE SETBACK. SO R TWO ALLOWED US TO DO THE OVERALL GRADING FOR THE PROJECT. ALSO, IS THERE EVEN SPACE TO PUT A BARN? 'CAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER STRUCTURE THERE, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU SAID IT'S SUCH A LIMITED SPACE WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUILD THE HOUSE. SO THAT WOULD PROHIBIT 'EM FROM HAVING LIVESTOCK. 'CAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SHELTER. SO, WELL, I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE PLANS OF THE PARCEL. YEAH. MAYBE THEY JUST WANT TO DO A BARN AND NOT A HOUSE. NOT A HOUSE. RIGHT. OKAY. OR I MEAN WE TALKING ABOUT THAT AT ONE TIME IT DOESN'T, SO THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOME CUT AND FILL ON THAT PARCEL ALSO TO INCREASE A BUILDABLE, MAYBE MAKE A BUILDABLE AREA A LITTLE LARGER SURE. TO ACCOMMODATE SOMETHING MORE. YEAH. [00:50:01] BUT FOR NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE HEMMED INTO THE ONE LITTLE SPOT. YEAH. BUT THEY'VE GOTTA GET ACCESS FIRST. OKAY. THAT'S WHY IT'S A RESERVE PARCEL. YEAH. THE FIRST THREE HOUSES ON WILSON PIKE ON THE LEFT AFTER YOU LEAVE CONCORD ROAD HEADED TOWARDS BRENTWOOD. MM-HMM . THERE ARE TWO AND THEY'VE ALL GOT 4, 5, 6, 7 ACRES ON THEM. AND, AND THERE'S FEW OF THE HOUSES, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE 'EM NOW, BUT FOR YEARS THOSE RANCHES WHEN YOU'RE GOING PAST ALEX NOBLE HOUSE AND IT FLAT OUT WAY BACK HAD LOTS OF HORSES BACK IN THERE. SO, AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUR HUGE MAKES SENSE FROM SETBACK, EVEN IF IT'S ZONED THAT THERE'S NOT A RISK OF IT BEING REPLANTED FOR 18 HOUSES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT PLAN. IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. YEAH. USE WE'RE ALSO PUTTING RESTRICTIONS TO GO BACK. YEAH. IT'LL ALSO BE RESTRICTED. OH, OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND ALSO YOU TALK ABOUT LIVESTOCK AND HORSES, YOU NEED FENCES FOR THAT. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE STRICT REQUIREMENTS FOR FENCES IN THE FLOODWAY. YEAH. ANYTHING THAT CAN COME APART AND BLOCK SOMETHING YOU WANT TO KEEP OUT. YEAH. SO THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, THEY CAN ONLY HAVE A FENCE IN THE FLOODWAY IF IT'S FOR LIVESTOCK AND THEN THEY HAVE TO DO A NO RISE SHOWING THAT THEIR FENCE ISN'T GONNA INCREASE THE FLOODING AT ANY POINT IN THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH R TWO. I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW THEY LANDED ON THAT FOR SUCH A BIG LOT. IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS INCONGRUENT, BUT THAT DOES MAKE SENSE. YEAH. COOL. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. UH, OR SECOND AND FINAL NEW BUSINESS ITEMS. JUST NOTICE A FUTURE APPOINTMENT. ONE MEMBER BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. EXCELLENT. THERE WE GO. CAN I BRING UP A, A POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECT? UM, TWO DIFFERENT KIND OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ASKED IF WE AS A CITY CAN DO MORE TO PARTICIPATE IN, UH, ANY OF THE DRUG EVENTS. LIKE, I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANYBODY THAT WOULD, UH, HELP PROMOTE, UM, ADDICTION SERVICES OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDICTION PREVENTION. SO THE, UM, EVENT THAT OCCURS AT THE EAST BRENTWOOD PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH EVERY YEAR, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH SUICIDE AND OVERDOSE ON THAT. THEY'RE WONDERING IF, IF THERE'S SOME WAY THAT THE CITY, I MEAN WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS, UM, THAT THE CITY CAN PROMOTE EITHER AN EVENT LIKE THAT OR SOME OTHER WAY AS A CITY, UH, DRUG ABUSE PREVENTION AND NOT JUST THE, THE PROGRAMS, NOT THE SCHOOLS FOR THE KIDS, BUT ON AN ADULT LEVEL, DRUG ABUSE, ADDICTION, SUICIDE TYPE PREVENTION SERVICES SIDE. I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE. UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T HAVE WHATEVER. SO ANY IDEAS OR, YOU KNOW, UM, ANYBODY, ANYTHING OR MEDIA, NOT OUR MEDIA, BUT ALSO SOMETHING OR WHAT? WELL, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE THEY, I, THEY, THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T REALIZE, THEY DIDN'T THINK WE COULD JUST HAVE AN EVENT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PUT IT OUT THERE. BUT TO, AS A CITY, SUPPORT SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS THAT OCCUR. I MAY BE HAVING A TABLE OR A BOOTH AND, AND PUTTING IT ON MAYBE PRINTED MATERIAL THAT GO OUT, UM, THAT KINDA STUFF. BECAUSE THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T THINK OF BRENTWOOD AS PEOPLE WITH ADDICTION TO LEGAL AND LEGAL COMO AND, YOU KNOW, AND SUICIDES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT IT'S, IT HERE A PROCLAMATION FORM. IF THAT HELP. I'M SORRY. WE COULD PROBABLY DO A PROCLAMATION FORM THAT HELP OR PUBLICIZE IT. OR ACTUALLY, I THINK OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, YEAH, DEER DO THE DARE PROGRAM COURSE PLACE. BUT I THINK THEY DO HAVE SOME PROGRAMS OKAY. IN PLACE. BUT THEN PUT A LOT OF THAT IS UNDER THE WILLIAMS COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. RIGHT. AND THAT ACTUALLY WOULD PROBABLY BE THE PLACE THEY WOULD BE BEST BECAUSE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TELL 'EM IN FAIRVIEW, THERE'S THIS PROGRAM, THERE'S THIS GROUP IN BETHESDA, THERE'S THIS GROUP IN COLLEGE GROVE, THERE'S THIS GROUP IN BRENTWOOD, THERE'S THESE FIVE GROUPS THAT HELP. WELL, THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT A GROUP THAT ALREADY EXISTS HERE IN BRENTWOOD. I KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IN FACT, I THINK THE PERSON THAT PROMOTES THIS SO MUCH HAD A FIRE DEPARTMENT CONNECTION WITH THE ONE, THE PERSON IN THEIR FAMILY THAT COMMITTED SUICIDE. YOUR QUESTION IS, HOW CAN WE BE A PHYSICAL PRESENCE AT THE EVENT? RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY, I MEAN THEY, THEY REALIZE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ORGANIZ, A DEPARTMENT OR WHATEVER THAT PARTICIPATES IN THOSE. BUT IS THERE SOME WAY, AS A CITY WE CAN MAKE RESIDENTS MORE AWARE AND NOT, NOT ONLY OF THE EVENTS, BUT OF THE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE YEAH. I'M NOT SURE. BEING AT THE EVENT WHERE PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT IT, IT'S GONNA HELP SPREAD AWARENESS. BUT YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE WAS, SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC IDEAS. SHE JUST WONDERED IF IT, WE CAN HELP PROMOTE THE, ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA. SHE COULD. YEAH. IT IS HEALTH RELATED AND IT'S A CONCERN ALL OF OUR REASONS. AND LIKE SAY MAYBE A PROCLAMATION, COMBINE THAT [00:55:01] UH, UH, LEADERSHIP BRENTWOOD TOO. THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR PROJECTS. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. BECAUSE FOR A PRIVATE THING LIKE THAT, I DON'T SEE HOW WE COULD SEND CITY STAFF. WE COULD CERTAINLY COULDN'T REQUIRE IT. AND WE DON'T HAVE A BOARD THAT YOU COULD GET THOSE VOLUNTEERS TO ADDRESS IT. BUT I THINK LEADERSHIP GROUP, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. EXCELLENT. THAT'S JUST THE KIND OF THING I THINK, I MEAN, EVEN THEIR ALUMNI GROUP, YOU KNOW, WOULD PROBABLY NOT OBJECT TO MANNING A TABLE OR SOMETHING IF THEY WERE GIVEN THE MATERIALS. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD, THANKS. AND WE GOT A REALLY NICE NOTE FROM, UH, GARNET THURMAN, THE, UM, THE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS GUY FOR WILLIAMS SNAKE THANKING US FOR HAVING THEM, UH, INVITING THEM TO OUR DINNER. OH, ELECTED OFFICIALS. SO JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT. HAVEN'T GOTTEN A HANDWRITTEN NOTE LIKE THAT FROM THE CHAMBER IN A LONG TIME. , PROBABLY EMAILS OR, I'M PRETTY MUCH OKAY ABOUT IT. IF ANYONE'S A FLUENT CURSIVE, I MAY HAVE THAT ACTUALLY, WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK. YEAH. YEAH. I, I HAVE A QUESTION AND MAYBE NELSON, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT ANSWERED THIS. IT'S KIND OF OFF TOPIC HERE, BUT IS THERE AN UPDATE ON OUR, UH, CELL TOWER? SO THE ONES I KNOW ABOUT, I MEAN THE, THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS IS MOVING FORWARD. THE, YOU KNOW, WE DID THE RESOLUTION FOR THE ONE, THE LISA AT, UM, THE WATER TOWERS NEAR SMITH PARK LAST MEETING. OKAY. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE THIRD ONE. AND THAT'S, I, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, UM, THE, UH, UH, GREG, UH, GREG CAN FELL OVER AT GOVERNOR'S CLUB, JUST SO THEY KNOW. 'CAUSE THERE'S, THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS A LONG TERM SOLUTION, BUT FOR A SHORT TERM SOLUTION, THEY NEED TO GET, YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK THEY CALL IT A SUPER COW, ONE OF THOSE LIKE PORTABLE CELL PHONE TOWERS THAT, BECAUSE I GUESS THEY'RE STARTING IN CONSTRUCTION IN EITHER AUGUST OR EARLY SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS GONNA TAKE DOWN THE EXISTING TOWERS THERE NEAR THE WATER FACILITIES, NEAR GOVERNOR'S CLUB. AND IF THEY DON'T GET A TEMPORARY THING UP, THEY'RE GONNA GO DARK. MM-HMM . AND, UM, IT'S ALREADY DIM . IT'S ALREADY DIM. IT REALLY IS. SO, UM, BECAUSE I GET FROM THERE. YEAH, NO, SO I MEAN, AT SOME LEVEL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN DO AS A COMMISSION BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC UTILITY. THIS IS A, A PRIVATE SERVICE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS WITH AT AND T AND WITH VERIZON AND WITH T-MOBILE. 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE RUNNING THE TEMPORARY SERVICE. AND SO VOGUE TOWERS, WHO PUTS UP THE TOWER THAT WE'RE TALKING TO ABOUT THE PERMANENT LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T DO THE TEMPORARY THING. THEY DO THE PERMANENT LOCATIONS. UM, SO IF IT IS KIND OF THE, THE BALL FRANKLY IS KIND OF IN THE GOVERNOR'S CLUB COURT, IF THEY GIVE PERMISSION BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THE, THE UNDERLYING LEASE ON THE PROPERTY WHERE THE WATER FACILITY IS. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE PERMISSION FOR THE TEMPORARY FACILITY TO GO IN. WAIT, IS IT GONNA BE SORT OF IN THE SAME LOCATION, SAME EXACT LOCATION, SAME, SAME EXACT LOCATION AND NO MORE INTRUSIVE PROBABLY. SO THAT PROBABLY DO THAT THEN. WELL, YOU HOPE IF THEY DON'T, I THINK, I MEAN, I, I'M IN A LACK OF A REASON FOR THEM NOT TO DO IT OTHER THAN JUST TO BE ORY. IT'S NOT VERY VISIBLE. I MEAN, IT'S NOT ANYTHING YOU SEE EITHER. YEAH. I MEAN, THERE MAY BE SOME HOUSES IN THERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE IT, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYWHERE WHERE YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN'T. SO, SO I WENT TO FAR TO, TO TALK TO, WELL, THE VOGUE TOWER PEOPLE JUST NOT AS BEING RESPONSIBLE, BUT AS BEING SUBJECT MATTER KNOWLEDGEABLE. RIGHT. UM, TO SAY, OKAY, SO IF GOVERNOR'S CLUB DOESN'T GIVE HIM PERMISSION TO HAVE IT UP WHEN THE OTHER TOWER COMES DOWN, DOES THAT, DOES THAT PREVENT HIM FROM DOING IT? IF THEY GET STARTED, THEN THEY SAID NO, IT JUST MEANS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE POOR SERVICE. I MEAN NO SERVICE UNTIL THEY GET IT UP AND RUNNING. SO IT WOULD BE BEST IF THEY GAVE HIM THE A OK LIKE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO SO THAT IT WOULD BE A SMOOTH TRANSITION IF THEY IN, IN, IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, WHENEVER THEY GIVE PERMISSION, THE TIMER STARTS AND WHEN THE SERVICE GOES DARK, THEY MAY HAVE SOME MORE URGENCY, SPECIFICALLY GOVERNOR SLOT. WELL, BUT THAT WHOLE AREA OF TOWN GOVERNORS CLUB HAS THE, THE ABILITY TO GRANT OR DENY PERMISSION. YEAH. CURRENTLY. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOTH IN THE DECISION MAKING SPOT AND THEY'RE AFFECTED. NOW HOW MUCH DO I WANT TO PUBLICIZE? I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH TO RAIN TREE OR TO RAISE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYONE ELSE AND SAY, HEY Y'ALL, I'M SORRY YOUR CELL SERVICE IS DOWN. HERE'S THE PHONE NUMBER FOR THE, UH, [01:00:01] PROPERTY ASSOCIATION GOVERNOR. I MEAN, I WANNA BE THAT GUY. WELL, YOU STILL HAVE TO GET THROUGH THEIR GATE. SO THEY'RE SAFE. A COUPLE THINGS TOO. CURRENTLY THEY HAVE BASICALLY, UH, INTENT IS TO FIX TO A TANK VERSUS ON A TOWER. RIGHT. AND SO THE TANK'S GONNA BE REMOVED. THEY'RE GONNA REBUILD A TANK. AND THAT'S WHAT'S CREATING ALL OF THIS. NOW THAT IS ON THE UTILITY DISTRICT, NOLANSVILLE, COLLEGE GROVE UTILITY DISTRICT PROPERTY, UH, OR PROPERTY. I DON'T, MAYBE AN EASEMENT. UH, ANYHOW. UM, SO I THINK IN ADDITION TO THE, WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS A TRUE TEMPORARY LIKE TRUCK TRAILER, I DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA WORK FULLY YET EITHER. THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS DEALING WITH THE DISTRICT AS WELL. SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THERE COULD BE AN OPTION THAT'S, I'M GONNA CALL IT SEMI-PERMANENT, NOT PERMANENT NATURE, PERMANENT TIME, LITTLE DIFFERENT DESIGN THAT COULD END UP COMING IN FRONT OF YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION. WHAT DOES, WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THEM A TEMPORARY TOWER LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, IS IT IN THE GROUND OR WHAT ACTUALLY YOU'LL SEE IS SOME, LET LET ME JUMP IN HERE BECAUSE I THINK I MAY HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF. OH, MAYBE THE LADY WITH THE, THAT WE'VE BEEN CORRESPONDING WITH PAT. PAT. MM-HMM . WHEN I SPOKE WITH HER, I GOT THE SAME IMPRESSION THAT I THINK THE MAYOR HAS THE TERM SELL ON WHEELS WAS USED A COW. OKAY. SO THERE'S SOME SORT OF A PORTABLE TOWER THAT GETS STOOD UP, WHICH HA HAS ALL THE TRAPPINGS OF A, OF, OF A TEMPORARY TYPE DEVICE. RIGHT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THEY USE SOME BATTERY. HOWEVER, TODD SHOWED ME THE PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED FOR THE TEMPORARY TOWER. AND IT IS EXACTLY LIKE A PERMANENT TOWER. SO IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK ANY DIFFERENT THAN A PERMANENT TOWER. SO IF WE TELL THE RESIDENTS THIS IS A TEMPORARY THING AND THEY SEE THAT UP, THEY'RE GONNA THINK, THAT DOESN'T LOOK TEMPORARY TO ME. IT LOOKS PERMANENT. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AN INCONSISTENCY THERE THAT, UH, WE HAVEN'T RECONCILED YET WITH WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE STOOD UP. AND I CAN JUMP IN BECAUSE I THINK TODD AND JASON AND I KNOW EVEN MORE, WE, UM, HAD A CONFERENCE CALL WITH HIM. AND THE REASON WHY THEY CAN'T DO THE COWS IS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE THE SPACE. THE SPACE. SO, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE TWO COWS FOR ONE, STILL, STILL TEMPORARY. AND TODD, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA WEIGH IN, BUT IT'S, IT'S IN A CONCRETE STRUCTURE, BUT THE CONCRETE IS NOT PUT INTO THE GROUND. RIGHT. SO IT'S, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT WOULD PROBABLY LOOK PERMANENT TO, TO, IT WOULD LOOK FROM MOST PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT'S NOT THE WAY THEY WOULD DO IT PERMANENT. BUT IT WILL LOOK, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT. UM, IT WOULD NOT BE THE IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL NOT GONNA FALL DOWN. NO, NO, NO, NO. IT SUPPORTED BY GUIDE WIRE. I'M SURE THAT'S THE KIND OF THING PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT WHEN THEY HEAR SUPPORTED BY G WIRES. WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE DESIGN STUFF IN FRONT OF US, BUT IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE LIKE A STRUCTURE THAN A TRAILER, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. OKAY. AND UH, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE SPACING, IT WOULD NOT BE, AT LEAST WE DON'T ANTICIPATE IT WOULD BE THE, THE HEIGHT OF WHAT THEY WOULD NEED PERMANENTLY. UM, AND THEN THE TEMPORARY ALSO WOULD, WOULD REFLECT ON THE, THE TIMEFRAME FOR IT TO BE THERE. SO THAT GET, THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO GIVE THEM TIME TO WORK ON THE PERMANENT SOLUTION. AND SO THOSE THINGS, BUT WE DO THINK THAT THAT PROBABLY TRIGGERS THE REVIEW OF THE ZONING CODE AND WOULD BE A PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW. WE ANTICIPATE THAT AT LEAST. SO IS THAT, IS THAT IN THE, IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY'RE ALREADY PLANNING TO, THEY'RE WORKING THAT OPTION RIGHT NOW, SOMEHOW PUT A PERMANENT TOWER THERE. OH, YES. AND THERE'S A NEW TANK COMING IN ALSO, OR ARE THEY JUST ABANDONING THE SITE? SO THERE'S A NEW TANK COMING IN? YEAH. SO YEAH, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE SPACE AND, AND WHO'S SPACE AND WHAT AND ALL THAT. AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR TEMPORARY SO THEY CAN THEN FIGURE OUT THE PERMANENT, THE PERMANENT SOLUTION IT SOUNDS LIKE HAS LOGISTICALLY DOES RELATE TO THE TANK CONSTRUCTION, THE TIMING, THE PLACEMENT AND LOCATION AND SOME OF THOSE, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT FOCUSING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. ONLY WITH OBSERVATION THAT I, I'VE GOT NO REASON TO THINK THAT THE TEMPORARY SOLUTION WOULD BE DISGUISED AS A TREE. I THINK THE PERMANENT SOLUTION IS INTENDED TO BE DISGUISED AS A TREE. YEAH. YEAH. SO PERMANENT WOULD HAVE TO BE, SO QUESTION ON THE, UH, INITIAL, UH, VOL TOWER EFFORT AT THE POLICE STATION. NOW THOSE DON'T HAVE TO GO UP. NOT EVERYBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO GO UP AT THE SAME TIME. RIGHT. ALL THESE TOWERS. WHICH ONE'S? SO IS THERE A TIMEFRAME RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE POLICE STATION TOWER? WELL, THEY'LL HAVE TO COURSE MAKE THEIR APPLICATION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN APPLICATIONS ON EITHER. I HAVEN'T, NO, NOT YET. SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THEIR TIMING IS, BUT I DO KNOW THEY PROBABLY WILL WANT TO GET TO THOSE PRETTY QUICKLY, WHICH MIGHT MEAN THERE NO ACTUAL OFFICIAL DISCUSSION. YEAH. WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME, I SAY ABOUT A YEAR, AND I'M NOT DEFINING WHEN THAT STARTS OR ENDS. ONE DAY TO A YEAR. SOUNDS LIKE MY WIFE TELLS ME TO CLEAN THE GARAGE. THAT'S HOW I'LL GET TO IT. YOU WON'T HAVE TO REMIND ME. THERE YOU GO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMIND ME EVERY SIX MONTHS. YEAH. PAM HAS A QUESTION THAT SHE WANTS. SHE'S NOT AS NOISY AS I AM. I WANT, I WANTED TO BACK WRAP UP, BUT, UM, THIS IS, UM, BACK TO THE GREATER NASHVILLE. UM, WE SAW THEIR BOOTH YESTERDAY. THE, THE ROAD THEY GAVE THE PRESENTATION AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME. [01:05:01] NN REGION. YEAH. THIS IS A LOT OF WORDS. AND SO I, THE TAKEAWAY AT THE, AFTER IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS MONEY ON THE TABLE THAT GRANTS OR MONEY SOMEHOW THAT WE AS THE CITY COULD TAP INTO AND PROJECTS THAT NEEDED TO MATCH THAT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE, OUR AWESOME STAFF IS TAKING? LIKE ARE THEY RUNNING WITH THAT TO FIGURE OUT THAT THERE WAS A DEADLINE? AND I, SO I I I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE DO WE START TALKING ABOUT THAT? OR IS, ARE THERE THINGS IN THE, I WOULD THE PRESENTATION, BUT MY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT IS THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PRETTY CLOSE TO SHOVEL READY, WOULDN'T THEY? I I'M NOT GONNA LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION FOLKS. YEAH. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. HOLD A CELL PHONE CONVERSATION THERE. I SKIPPED, I I BRAIN SKIPPED OUT. SO PLEASE RECAP. BASICALLY, THE PROJECTS FOR THE GREATER NASHVILLE, THEY, THEY KEPT SAYING LIKE, THIS IS MONEY THAT THEY CAN HELP THE CITY CONNECT. IT HAS SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING. RIGHT. AND SO FOR THE CYCLE, YEAH. I'M WONDERING, REMEMBER THAT, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE TAKING AND RUNNING WITH OR DO WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS OR HOW I JUST, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WORKED AND I DIDN'T WANNA JUST ASSUME OH, THEY HAVE IT 'CAUSE Y'ALL ALWAYS HAVE IT AND SHOW UNDERSTOOD. GREAT. UNDERSTOOD. YES MA'AM. AND, AND I COULD SPEND, I COULD SPEND 15 MINUTES TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT I'LL, I'LL MAKE IT VERY BRIEF. SO IN THE PAST, THE CITY HAS FUNDED OUR LOCAL ROADWAY PROJECTS WITH LOCAL FUNDS BECAUSE OF THE SIMPLE REASON THAT IT CUTS OUT A LOT OF RED TAPE AND IT, AND IT GREATLY REDUCES THE TIME FOR CONSTRUCTION. UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CMAC PROJECT THAT WE JUST ACCEPTED BID FOR LAST WEEK BEGAN IN 2019. SO WE'RE AT SEVEN YEARS ON THAT PROJECT. FRANKLIN ROAD WAS A LOCAL PARTNERSHIP WITH TDOT. IT TOOK SEVEN YEARS TO COMPLETE THAT ROADWAY PROJECT. DALE ROAD IS GONNA TAKE LIKE 18 MONTHS TO, TO TWO YEARS TO MURRAY LANE ROUNDABOUT WE DID IN TWO MONTHS. UH, SO THE CITY IN THE PAST HAS NOT, UH, EXPLORED MUCH AS FAR AS GAINING FEDERAL FUNDING BECAUSE OF BAD TASTE IN THEIR MOUTH WITH OTHER FUNDING PROJECTS. NOW WE, BUT, AND THE, UH, PRIOR ADMINISTRATION OF THE PAST NOTED THESE THINGS. AND AGAIN, SO WE JUST FUNDED PROJECTS LOCALLY. THE GNRC ALWAYS HAS, UH, FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR APPLICATION FOR PROJECTS. UH, TO GO BACK RECAP VERY QUICKLY, WE'VE APPLIED FOR TWO CO GRANTS FOR THE WEST PARK SIDEWALK. WE GOT NEITHER ONE OF THOSE. WE APPLIED FOR, UM, FUNDING ON FRANKLIN ROAD TRAIL FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGH THE MULTIMODAL ACCESS GRANT. UH, WE HAVE NOW APPLIED FOR FUNDING FOR FRANKLIN ROAD TRAIL AND A BIT OF WORK ON GRANNY WHITE TO UPGRADE BIKE DEAD FACILITIES THROUGH THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL PROGRAM. AND WE'RE AWAITING, UH, UM, A DECISION ON THAT. SO YES, WE MEET ONCE A MONTH WITH THE GREATER NASHVILLE REGION REGIONAL COUNCIL AS REPRESENTATIVES OF, FOR BRENTWOOD OF THE TECHNICAL COORDINATING COMMITTEE, THE ENGINEERING PART OF IT, AND ENGINEERING PLANNING. AND SO WE KNOW ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT ARE OUT THERE, AND ANYTIME WE SEE THAT THERE IS A PROJECT THAT WE COULD PURSUE, THEN WE DO THAT. UH, WE TAKE IT TO JASON AND JAY OF COURSE, AND, AND TALK ABOUT HOW THAT CAN AFFECT US. HOW, HOW IT COULD BE FUNDED PROPERLY, UH, POSSIBLY THE SHARES, UH, THAT THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO ADD TO THAT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IT IS A GOOD QUESTION. THEY DO, THEY PROMOTE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TONS OF MONEY FOR EVERYBODY, FOR EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S GREAT. BUT THEY DON'T, IT'S VERY, VERY NOT CLOSE POOL OF PEOPLE WHO MEET THE STRICT REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT FUNDING OR HAVE THE MATCH REQUIRED FOR THAT FUNDING OR HAVE THE, THE, UH, PATIENTS TO WAIT FOR. THIS IS A BIT OF AN EXAGGERATION, BUT I HAVE TO TELL SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME TO GET A PROJECT IDENTIFIED AND GET IT FULLY CONSTRUCTED? I'D SAY, WELL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BORN ON THIS DATE. YOU HOPE TO HAVE A LONG LIFE AND DIE ON THIS DATE. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME . THAT'S AN EXAGGERATION. BUT GENERALLY IT GOES BACK TO THE LACK OF FUNDING WE DO HAVE, UH, AS FAR AS UH, UH, FEDERAL TYPE PROJECTS. WE HAVE WILSON PIKE, WIDENINGS BEEN OUT THERE A LONG TIME. MOORES LANE HAS BEEN OUT THERE A LONG TIME. THEY SCORE THOSE IN THEIR SYSTEM. THEY MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I I WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE FOR THAT UNFORTUNATELY. BUT THEY, THEY SCORE THOSE, UH, AND THEN THAT CAN CHANGE. AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GO OVER AND WORK WITH TDOT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PRIORITIES MATCH UP. THAT'S WHERE THE MAGIC OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT IS. UM, AND SO TDOT MAY HAVE PRIORITIES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME. THEY'RE USUALLY PRETTY CLOSE, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS EXACTLY THE [01:10:01] SAME. AND THEN SOME THINGS CAN GET MOVED UP. I DO THINK, I REMEMBER HEARING A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION LAST TIME WE WERE AT OUR GNRC MEETING ABOUT THOSE FUNDS, BUT THERE WAS A TIGHT TIMEFRAME AND YOU HAD TO HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE BASICALLY READY TO GO. UH, AND SO PROJECTS HAVE LOTS OF PHASES, UH, FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT ENVIRONMENTAL AND RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND DESIGN, DIFFERENT LEVELS OF DESIGN, AND THEN READY FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY PROJECTS THAT FIT THAT MOLD OF THOSE PRETTY, PRETTY READY TO GO. RIGHT, RYAN? AND, AND THE, THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANT THAT FOR WHICH WE'RE APPLYING NOW, WE DO HAVE MUCH OF THE DESIGN COMPLETED FOR THE FRANKLIN ROAD TRAIL. WE'RE HOPING THAT GIVES US A LEG UP ON THE COMPETITION. BUT AS PROJECT READINESS IS CONSIDERED IN THE GRANTING OF THE AWARDS IN, IN MANY CASES, IN SOME CASES IT DOESN'T MATTER. 'CAUSE THEY TAKE YOU FROM, UH, CONCEPTION ALL THE WAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION. I APPRECIATE IT. I I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND AFTER THEY LEFT, I WAS LIKE, SO HOW DOES THIS, HOW DO WE GO FORWARD? AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW YOU MET AND I, I DIDN'T WANNA ASSUME THAT I FELT CONFIDENT THAT YOU GUYS HAD IT. YES MA'AM. BUT THEN I THOUGHT, WERE WE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT? TO, TO MAKE IT TO ONE, ONE MORE. I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER. I'LL GO ADD ONE MORE CLARIFIER ON THE QUALIFIER ON THAT AS WELL. WHEN YOU ACCEPT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR MANY OF THESE PROJECTS, THERE ARE FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS TIED TO THEM. YEAH. REGARDING HOUSING AND, UM, HOW YOU, HOW YOU DEVELOP STRENGTHS. YOU'RE THINKING THE TENNESSEE HISTORIC COMMISSION IS THE SAME WAY. THEY'VE GOT TONS OF MONEY UNTIL YOU START CHECKING INTO YOUR SPECIFIC NEED. THE CRITERIA IS SO HARD TO MEET THAT WE'VE NEVER FOUND ONE THAT WE FIT INTO. I MEAN, DESPITE LIKE ALL THE MONEY WE SPENT AT BOILING SPRING ACADEMY AND ALL OF THAT, UH, WE JUST COULDN'T. AND I HAVE A QUESTION. THAT'S SOMETHING I THOUGHT ABOUT THE OTHER DAY AND YOU MENTIONED MOORE'S LANE INTERCHANGE RIGHT THEN, AND THIS JUST MADE ME PARANOIA ON MY PART. I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT IT, THAT BROWN LAND FARMS THING, IT SOUNDS TO ME, AND I HAVE MADE UP MY MIND ABOUT IT AND I DON'T HAVE A VOTE ON IT ANYWAY, BUT, UM, WHEN WE HAD THOSE CONSULTANTS COME AND TALK ABOUT THE TENNIS FACILITY, THEY MADE IT SOUND PRETTY CLEAR WHAT A REGIONAL THING IS. AND THAT'S REGIONAL IF I'VE EVER HEARD OF ONE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING OUT THERE. WELL, TO ME, IF YOU'RE VISITING FROM ANOTHER REGION AND YOU'RE GOING DOWN INTERSTATE 65, THE EASIEST WAY TO GET THERE IS TO GET OFF AT MORRIS LANE AND GO STRAIGHT OVER TO HILLSBOROUGH ROAD. SO IS THAT WHY THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST ALL OF A SUDDEN IN PIXIE MOORE'S, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE PEOPLE COMING FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH WOULD GET OFF AT MORRIS LANE. PEOPLE COMING FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH WOULD PROBABLY GET OFF AT 96 AT WHERE, AT 96 AND THEN TURN RIGHT ON NO TO 96. ARE YOU NUTS? IF THEY'RE COMING FROM THE SOUTH, THAT WILL BE THE QUICKEST WAY. BUT IF THEY NO, IT WOULDN'T. THEY'RE COMING FROM THE NORTH MORRIS LANE. ARE YOU ON NINE SIX? VERY MUCH. YOU CAN'T EVEN GO TWO BLOCKS ON 96. UM, AND I, UNFORTUNATELY THERE ISN'T ENOUGH INTEREST IN MOORE'S LANE. WE KEEP TRYING TO PUSH 'EM ON THAT AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. YES. BUT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE SUDDEN SPUR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WITH WITH A LOT OF HELP FROM, UH, OUR PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS, WE GOT A LOT OF PICTURES OF SOME OF THE BAD PAVEMENT AND WE KICKED 'EM UP TO OUR FOLKS THAT WOULD LOOK AT THAT AT TDOT BECAUSE WE SAID IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A WHILE BEFORE MOORE'S LANE IS ADDRESSED FROM A COMPREHENSIVE PERSPECTIVE. SO CAN YOU HELP US OUT WITH THE ASPHALT NOW PATCH SOME POTHOLES IN A PRETTY ROUGH WAY? I WOULDN'T CALL THAT HELP JUST YET, BUT, UM, I KIND OF EXPECT BETTER ASPHALT THERE EVENTUALLY. WE'RE GONNA KEEP PUSHING ON 'EM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE ACTUALLY ISN'T ENOUGH INTEREST ON MORSE LANE. WELL THAT SCARES ME TOO. IF THIS THING GETS BUILT AND THEN MOORE LANE IS NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, IMPROVED, IT IS GONNA BE A REAL BOTTLENECK. YEAH, YEAH. 'CAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. 'CAUSE EVEN IF YOU GO, UH, IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF MAC HATCHER ON HILLSBOROUGH IS MY UNDERSTANDING TOO. SO YOU COULD GO AGAIN, MOORES LANE, HILLSBOROUGH, MAC, HATCHER OVER AND THEN JUST CURL RIGHT BACK UP NORTH A LITTLE BIT TOO. EITHER WAY YOU'RE GONNA BE USING MOORES LANE, RIGHT? EXACTLY. YEAH. IT'S IN FLOODED FIELDS THAT WE USED TO FOUR WHEEL WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. YEAH. THEN WHEN IT WAS FLOOD IN THE SPRING, YEAH, THE HARPER WOULD ALMOST ALWAYS FLOOD THOSE FIELDS. SAME WHERE WHERE THE, WHERE THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY WRECK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, OF HILLSBOROUGH ROAD. THOSE, THEY'RE JUST BIG FARMS, BUT THEY USUALLY DIDN'T PLAN 'EM, SO. OH, OKAY. INTERESTING. YEAH. GOOD, GOOD THOUGHT THOUGH. SO WE CAN BRING UP AS THEY'RE DOING THIS PROJECT YOU TO SAY, HEY, IT'S A BROADER TRAFFIC. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IN THE PRESENTATION DOWN OF THE, UM, LAST WEEK THEY, THEY HAD I THINK A, A GOOD DOZEN DIFFERENT [01:15:01] INTERSECTIONS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO HAVE SUPPORT. I DON'T RECALL IF, IF MOORE LANE INTERCHANGE WAS ONE OF THOSE SPOTS THAT HAD A DOT ON IT. THE MAP WAS PRETTY SMALL WITH A LOT OF DOTS. SO, UH, IF WE HAVE A CHANCE, WE MIGHT WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE THEY TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT FOR THE REASONS THAT MENTIONED. YEAH. AND IT MAY BE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN A STATE FOR TRANSPORTATION, OFTENTIMES THE MONEY GOES WHERE IT'S THE WORST CONDITION AND THE HIGHEST USE. AND SO THERE'S A THRESHOLD IF YOU CAN GET THERE THAT MAYBE IT PUTS A PROJECT MORE ON THE RADAR THAN IT WAS BEFORE. SO IF PROJECT DOES HAPPEN, TRAFFIC LIGHTS, MAYBE WE CAN TRY TO USE THAT TO GET ATTENTION TO MORRIS LANE. UH, IT IS KIND OF A, IT, IT KIND OF COULD GO EITHER WAY. EITHER. WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF IT AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH MORRIS LANE OR CAN YOU IMPROVE MORRIS LANE TO HELP AND USE THE PROJECT AS LEVERAGE TO DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW. WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP TALK TALKING ABOUT THAT AND FIND OUT WHAT THE IMPACT IS. REMEMBER WHEN WE MOVED HERE? FRANKLIN ROAD WAS TWO LANES. CONCORD ROAD WAS TWO LANES AND MORRIS LANE'S TWO LANES. I LIKE IT BETTER. . IT SAYS THERE'S MORE TO DO. I DID NOT MOVE FROM A LITTLE GETTY TOWN TO HERE. I WAS BORN TO DEATH THE FIRST FEW YEARS. LOVE. WELL, THERE'S NO, THERE WAS NO TRAIN CROSSING ON. REMEMBER THE TRAIN CROSSING ON CONCORD ROAD? YES. DOWN INTO THE YEAH, IT WAS A LITTLE DIP RIGHT BEHIND. YEAH, THEY GOT STUCK BEHIND TRAINS A COUPLE TIMES OVER THERE. , I REMEMBER MY FIRST SHOPPING OUT AT, I DROVE FROM MY HOUSE TO OH, HICKORY, I MEAN HICKORY HALL MALL SAID, SEAN, HOW DID IT GO 15 MILES BY THE STORE? WHY DID WE LIVE HERE? YEAH. THAT'S FUNNY. ONE MORE THING. I'M SORRY TO GET OFF TOPIC HERE. HAVE WE HAD ANY MORE THOUGHTS THAT WE COULD SHARE ABOUT UM, EW DRIVE, ABOUT THE PRIVATE STREET? BECAUSE I MEAN, I THINK DALE NEEDS TO BE HERE BECAUSE I WANNA FACE HIM DOWN THIS . I MEAN, KIM, THERE'D BE SOME KIND OF COOPERATIVE BETWEEN THE BUSINESS OWNERS THERE AND THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED. WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT. THERE HAVE BEEN EFFORTS TO DO THAT IN THE PAST RIGHT. TO THE CITY. YEAH. AND, AND I, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY YOUR BEST PLACE TO BE IF YOU CAN BE THERE. YEAH. SO THAT'S SORT OF THE FUNCTION. I KNOW ELSE YOU TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO TALK WITH BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ALONG THERE THE THE BEST THING THAT THEY COULD DO IS TO, TO REALIZE THAT IF, IF THAT ROAD CAN BE IMPROVED AND THEIR LIABILITY AND AND RESPONSIBILITY GOES AWAY, THAT'S A GOOD THING. MM-HMM . I DO THINK THOUGH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALL OF 'EM, BUT SOME OF THEM, THEY WANT TO BE SURE THEY, IF THEY HAVE PARKING CLOSE TO THE BUILDING, THAT THEY CAN KEEP IT. RIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING. SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF OUT THERE. I TALKED WITH ONE OF THEM ABOUT A THIRD OF WHILE. YEAH. I SPOKE WITH ONE OF THEM AND HE WAS, HE WAS ALL FOR IT. HE WAS SUPPORTIVE OF, OF WHERE WE'D WANT TO BE. HE JUST SAID, I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT WE COULD KEEP THAT PARKING ON LOOSE ANYTHING. AND I IMAGINE THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BIG HEADACHE ISSUE OR ANYTHING. IT SEEMS GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN BECAUSE PART OF THE COMPLICATED ISSUE, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S WHAT, A QUARTER MILE THIRD? A MILE. LIKE A BAKER'S DOZEN OF PROPERTY OWNERS. YES. YEAH. EVERYONE'S GOT THEIR 15 FEET. NOT ALL LOCAL REALLY. IT'S ALL BEEN, IT'S BEEN ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY TOO. RIGHT. SO MM-HMM . AND I'VE A COUPLE OF TIMES THE CITY HAS TRIED TO TALK, YOU KNOW, AND FIGURE OUT AND ESPECIALLY DUDE WHEN PINNACLE AND VANDERBILT PILL BECAUSE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE TIME AND EVER ANYBODY COME TO THE TABLE, I DON'T THINK OR TALK. WELL I WANTED THAT SUGGESTED THAT NICER POTHOLES THAT SUGGEST MAYBE WE NEED TO CLOSE THE ROAD ON EITHER SIDE TO KEEP, UH, RESIDENCE FROM DAMAGING THEIR VEHICLES. BUT UH, I GUESS Y'ALL DIDN'T THINK THOSE A GREAT WOULD DRAW THEIR ATTENTION. THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION WAS THE DAY I ASKED DALE STANDING RIGHT THERE AND IT'S OWN TAPE BEHIND SONOVA BANK THERE FROM THE OLD MARYLAND FARMS WHEN YOU COME OUT AND DRIVE THERE IS A GIGANTIC POTHOLE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER. AND I SAID, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT? AND HE SAID, WELL, IT'S NOT THE CITIES. AND WE ALL SORT OF SAID, BUT EVERYBODY THINKS IT'S THE CITIES. AND HE SAID, WHAT ANOTHER COULD FIX THAT ONE DOES OWN THAT STREET THERE. THE BANK, IT SHOOTS OUT ACROSS STREET, ACROSS, BACK IT DOWN. WHICH ONE OWES A LITTLE BIT AT JEFFERSON. LIKE IF YOU TURN LEFT OUT, CADILLAC DRIVE PROPERTY ORIGINAL WENT UP. I GUESS THAT YEAH, YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE. LIKE IF MARYLAND FARMS IS RIGHT HERE, UM, AND CENOVUS IS HERE, THERE'S A ROAD THAT GOES BEHIND IT. THERE'S A LITTLE UM, LIKE A DRY CLEANING TAEKWONDO PLACE. OH THAT'S UNIFORM [01:20:01] OUT. I DON'T KNOW THE ROAD IT TIES INTO, BUT THE ROAD IT TIES INTO. IT'S AWFUL. IT HAS, UM, JEFFERSON'S AND UM, I KNOW WHICH ONE A CHIROPRACTIC PLACE. I WAS THE ONE UP THERE. IT DID ENDS INTO THAT STREET THAT GOES DOWN. SO IT COMES OFF OF VIRGINIA WAY. SHE MUST BE TALKING ABOUT THIS. YEAH. BETWEEN THE Y YEAH, IT THE BACK ROAD. YEAH. YEAH. IT LOOKS PRIVATE. YEAH. OH IT'S PRIVATE. YEAH. THERE'S NO DOUBT. YEAH. BUT WHO OWNS IT? RIGHT? IT'S REALLY, I CAN LOOK IT UP ON THE PROPERTY RECORD AND SEE IF IT'LL TELL US. PROPERTY OWNERS, A LOT OF TIMES PROPERTY ON PRIVACY ROAD, THEIR PROPERTY GETS TO THE CENTER OF THE ROAD AND IN THE, THE OWNER ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE. I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT RAY. I'M JUST SAYING WHO IS THAT PERSON? OH, THERE'S SEVERAL CONFUSED ABOUT HOW THEY FIGURE OUT WHERE THE LINES ARE. I THINK ON PUIT, AND I DON'T, THIS MAY NOT BE THE CASE 'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME PURCHASES IN THE LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS, BUT I THINK THERE WAS A COUPLE OF 'EM THEY HAD EVEN A HARD TIME REACHING YEAH. OR FIGURING OUT WHO ACTUALLY OWNED THE PROPERTY. YEAH. WELL LIKE ON EWT, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT STRIP WHERE LIKE, UM, JUDGE DEAN'S PLACE IS THAT LADY THAT, OR WHOEVER THE GENTLEMAN WAS THAT OWNED, THAT HAD LIKE A HUNDRED YEAR LEASE AND I'M NOT EXAGGERATING, THAT'S HOW LONG IT WAS ON THOSE LITTLE SHOPS. MM-HMM . THAT THEY LEASED OUT TO PEOPLE. MM-HMM . BUT WE COULD EVER GET THEM TO DO ANYTHING. REMEMBER? MM-HMM . YEAH. YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING LOT? HUH? YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING LOT? NO, I DON'T KNOW. UH, WHEEL SHOPS, FRONT WOOD TROPHIES IS AND ALL OF THAT. THAT WAS, IT'S TECHNICALLY A PARKING LOT. IS IT NOT? NO, SHE'S TALKING ABOUT PURE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE STREET, THE ROAD. OH. SO YES. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING, TALKING TO WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO OWNS ALL THOSE BUILDINGS. THAT WAS ONE PERSON THOUGH THAT HAD CONTROL OF IT. I DO KNOW THAT. WHERE THE AND THEY WERE TRYING TO GET, TRYING TO BE, WELL KNOWING THAT WE'RE ABOUT A DECADE OR MORE IN THE PT DRIVE CONVERSATION, IS THERE A POINT THAT WE M DOMAIN PT DRIVE, I THINK WE PROBABLY WANNA PUT THAT ON AN AGENDA TO DISCUSS. 'CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO FAIR ENOUGH. YEAH. , WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE DELIBERATE RIGHT NOW. NOT SO, YOU KNOW. OH, I'M NOT SAYING NO, THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY UP TO THE COMMISSION. WELL I THINK WHEN IT GETS CONFUSING AS TO WHO ACTUALLY OWNS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THEIR DEED SAY THAT WE MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOTTA STEP UP AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE PUBLIC CITY STREETS THAT EVERYBODY USES. AND I DO KNOW TO YOUR POINT, WHEN WE HAD, UM, A, A BUSINESS AND THE ROADWAY WAS IN, THERE WERE PROBLEMS. WE HAD TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO THE BUILDING FROM. AND LUCKILY IT WAS ONE OWNER THAT HAPPENED TO BE IT'S BEHIND CRACK OR BARREL DOWN IN PEOPLE SPRINGS. AND UM, AND THEY WERE VERY WILLING TO, TO DO THE WORK BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THAT ONE BUSINESS THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COORDINATE. SO TO Y'ALL POINT, DRIVE, THERE'S SO MANY INDIVIDUALS SO THAT IT IS JUST EASY TO PASS THE BUCK AND YOU SOMETIMES DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO HOW, IF YOU WANT THE ROAD FIXED, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA JUST FIX? THAT ONE SECTION THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S FRUSTRATING IS THEY'RE A LOCAL LANDOWNER OR ARE THEY PART OF THE NATIONAL? IT'S, IT'S, AND NOW THEY'VE MERGED WITH PINNACLES. SO WHO IS THE PERSON THAT OR ENTITY THAT ACTUALLY OWNS THE PROPERTY? YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF, AND I GOT IT RIGHT HERE FOR BUT THE ONE BETWEEN Y AND WARD CIRCLE IS GRAYSTONE GP DID GRAYSTONE GP. OH, WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO JAY? I MISSED IT FIRST. THIS IS AT THAT SECTION OF ROAD THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A, A PRIVATE DRIVE IF YOU WILL. YEAH. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A, A ROAD BETWEEN WARD CIRCLE AND THE YMCA. YEAH. AND IT'S GRAYSTONE GP. IT'S ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THERE HAS THAT ENTIRE SECTION. NOW THAT DOESN'T HELP US TO KNOW WHO IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW. UM, WELL, DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ADDRESSES AND STUFF OR OR DO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SHELL COMPANY SEARCHED BY THAT? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. THE REGISTER AGENT WOULD BE LISTED. IT SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE ON THE STATE WEBSITE. YEAH. MM-HMM . NOW, O ONE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, THAT WE COULD HAVE YEAH. FOR DRIVE AISLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY CITE SOMEBODY? WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL FOR OUR PURPOSES IF WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN THESE PUBLIC ACCESS PRIVATE PROPERTIES? AND WHAT IS WHEN WE CITE THEM, WHAT IS, WHAT DO WE DO? I MEAN, IS IT LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY, WE CITE SOMEBODY FOR NOT CUTTING THEIR GRANTS, THAT COULD BE SIMILAR. THAT'S, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT MAYBE IT GETS THEIR ATTENTION. OH SURE. [01:25:01] ALL GOT THEIR ATTENTION FOR FIVE YEARS. I'M NOT A HEAD. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT'S JUST GOVERNMENT RED TAPE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING DONE IN THE LONG RUN FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. SO YEAH, WELL WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. WE KNOW T'S THE ONE THAT, UH, IS, WELL THE PRIMARY ONE WE'RE FOCUSED ON RIGHT NOW. WE KNOW THERE ARE OTHERS LIKE THAT ONE AS WELL. AND SO PROBABLY SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A, A PATHWAY FOR IT AND IF WE CAN THEN MAYBE WE CAN TRY IT, TRY WITH THE OTHERS IF WE, WE'LL EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHO TO TALK TO. IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE EFFORT ON SOME OF 'EM, BUT WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT AND THEN GO FROM THERE. WE WOULD THINK WITH THE NEW RESTAURANTS LIKE UH, THE COASTAL RESTAURANT COMING IN THERE, YOU THINK THEY WOULD BE LIKE, HEY, LET'S, THEY SHOULD CARE TOGETHER AND HAVE A LITTLE, SHOULD KEYWORD EXACTLY THE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. 'CAUSE APPARENTLY THEY'RE NOT TAKING IT VERY SERIOUSLY. SO I THINK AT SOME LEVEL WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO ELEVATE IT A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. BRYAN, SEE FROM THE GODFATHER, GOT PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.