* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] WELCOME BRANDON OLIVER [ Brentwood Planning Commission Briefing July 2, 2026 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Planning Commission to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.] BACK. HEY, NEW PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER NEW PLANNING COMMISSIONER, BRIAN EVANS. HE WILL BE JOINING US ON MONDAY NIGHT. SO YOU GUYS WILL MEET HIM THEN? WELL, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY MET HIM AT THE LAST MEETING 'CAUSE HE WAS THERE IN ATTENDANCE. UM, OKAY, LET'S SEE. ELECTION, OH, WE'RE ALSO GONNA DO ELECTION OF OFFICERS. SO JULY WE DO THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS SINCE THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE OUR, UM, NEW APPOINTMENTS OR, SO THAT WILL BE AN ADDIT AN ITEM AFTER ROLL CALL. SO JUST DO CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AND THEN TRACY, YOU'RE GONNA STAY ON FOR TREE BOARD. AND THEN I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP TO SEE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SERVE ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD. IF NOT, TRACY HAS AGREED TO STAY ON FOR THAT. UM, WHAT'S THAT BEEN LIKE? QUARTER. OKAY. AND THEY DO THIS PROJECT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL DO, UM, WE'LL CALL ELECTRIC OFFICERS AND THEN APPROVAL OF THE MEETING THEN THAT'S ON MONDAY NIGHT. SO THAT'S THE BIGGER PROJECT. SO WE BRING, OKAY, SO OUR FIRST ITEM ON CONSENT IS A FINAL PLOT FOR THE ARCADIA SUBDIVISION. UM, PHASE TWO. AND THEN PHASE THREE IS THE NEXT ITEM. AND THEN AFTER BOTH OF THESE FINAL PLOTS HAVE BEEN RECORDED, UH, ALL OF THE ARCADIA SUBDIVISION WILL BE RECORDED. AND THIS IS LOCATED OFF OF RAGSDALE ROAD AND USED TO BE KNOWN AS THE RAGSDALE SUBDIVISION. SO THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY FOR THIS SUBDIVISION. UM, BUT FOR PHASE TWO, UM, SEC REQUEST APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLOT FOR PHASE TWO FOR 28 LOTS AND FIVE OPEN SPACE TRACKS ON APPROXIMATELY 62 AND A HALF ACRES. UM, THE PLOT ALSO ESTABLISHES DEDICATED SCENIC EASEMENTS AND A WALKING TRAIL THAT'S LOCATED WITHIN PORTIONS OF THE OPEN SPACE. PHASE ONE OF THE SUBDIVISION WAS RECORDED ON DECEMBER 18TH, 2024. WE'VE GOT, UH, SIX CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. UH, ONE ALL WOODED OPEN SPACE AREAS SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN THEIR NATURAL STATE AND BE DESIGNATED AS SCENIC EASEMENTS. UH, WE'VE SEEN SOME MORE MEETS AND BOUNDS FOR THE STREAM BUFFERS, UH, AND DETENTION PONDS AND ALL EASEMENTS. FOR THE DETENTION PONDS, WE NEED THE CORRECT WATER QUALITY RIPARIAN BUFFER LIMITS AND SOME ITEMS ADDED TO THE PLAT AGENDA. AND THEN THEY'RE MISSING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL OF ADDRESSES. BUT THOSE CAN ALL BE DONE BEFORE THE PLOT IS SUBMITTED. SO THAT'S WHY THERE ARE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, 15 STANDARD CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED FINAL PLOT. HERE'S THE OVERALL OF, UH, PHASE TWO. AGAIN, THERE'LL BE 28 LOTS AND FIVE OPEN SPACE TRACKS. SO THERE'S LOTS OF, UH, SNA EASEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION AND THERE'S THAT WALKING TRAIL THAT THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN PHASE THREE, UH, PHASE THREE IS ONLY THREE. UM, HILLSIDE PROTECTION LOTS. UH, SO THERE'S THREE LOTS ON APPROXIMATELY 12.3 ACRES. AND AGAIN, PHASE ONE WAS RECORDED ON DECEMBER 18TH, 2024. WE HAVE THREE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. ONE IS THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL OF ADDRESSES NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE PLOT. UH, SINCE THESE ARE HP, WE REQUIRE A HILLSIDE PROTECTION LABEL TO BE ADDED ONTO THE LOTS. AND THEN, UM, JUST A REMOVAL OF A NOTE FOR SCENIC EASEMENTS. 'CAUSE THIS SECTION DOES NOT HAVE ANY SCENIC EASEMENTS. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE LOTS [00:05:01] WITH ESTABLISHED, UM, BUILDS BOWL AREAS AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE A SHARED PRIVATE DRIVE AND THEN STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED FINAL PLOT FOR THIS ONE AS WELL. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OUR NEXT ONE IS A REVISED HILLSIDE PROTECTION SITE PLAN FOR HEATH THROUGH HILL SUBDIVISION LOT 15 1 0 0 3 LOOKOUT RIDGE. UM, X IS INDUSTRIES REQUEST APPROVAL OF A REVISED FINAL PLAT FOR LOT 15 OF THE HETHER HILL SUBDIVISION LOCATED, UH, 1 0 0 3 LOOKOUT RIDGE. THE PROPOSED PROJECT INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF A TERRORIST RETAINING WALL IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE A WIDER DRIVEWAY. THERE'S AN EXISTING RETAINING WALL THAT WILL BE REMOVED AND REPLACED. THE EXISTING WALL DOES NOT MEET CURRENT CODE AS PORTIONS OF THE WALL EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED. UH, THE NEW RETAINING WALL WILL HAVE TWO TIERED WALLS WITH A BLACK METAL FENCE FOR FALL PROTECTION. SO HERE'S, UH, A PLAN SHOWING THE, THE WALL, AND THEN HERE'S A RENDERING OF WHAT THE WALL IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WITH THE FENCING OR THE FALL PROTECTION, WHICH IS A CODE REQUIREMENT. IF IT'S OVER A CERTAIN HEIGHT, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. AND THERE ARE 13 STANDARD REQUIREMENTS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REVISED HILLSIDE PROTECTION SITE PLAN. ALRIGHT, AWESOME. ITEM AM NUMBER FOUR IS A MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION FOR A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AT ADAM ROAD NASHVILLE AT 1608. FRANKLIN ROAD AUTO PRO REQUESTS APPROVAL OF A NEW DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD A NEW MASONRY DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING WITHIN THE GRAVEL PARKING AREA. IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN WHERE THAT, YEP, RIGHT WHERE THAT RED BLOCK IS, THE ENCLOSURE WILL BE A 12 FOOT BY 10 FOOT, UH, DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE WITH A SIX FOOT HEIGHT WITH CORRUGATED METAL GATE PANELS. AND WE DO, I THINK WE DO HAVE A RENDERING OF THE DUMPSTER. YEAH, YEAH, THERE WE GO. THAT'S WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. WHAT ARE THOSE QUE THERE'S A, THERE'S LIKE A STREAM STREAM THAT GOES YEAH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A STREAM THAT'S CUT IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS THERE ON THE EAST AND WEST. SO IS THAT DUMPSTER TO HANDLE, UM, THOSE BOTTOM TWO BUILDINGS THEN? I BELIEVE SO. THE BUILDING, THEY'RE NOT GONNA TRY AND CROSS THE STREAM WITH OTHER TRASH OR ANYTHING. THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO CROSS THE STREAM WITH OTHER TRASH. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN RECENTLY THERE WAS A MODIFICATION TO THE BUILDINGS IN THE BACK. OH, OKAY. RIGHT HERE. AUTO PRO ALSO OWNS THOSE. UM, SO THEY USE THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE FOR, FOR THOSE BUILDINGS. ALL DUMPSTER ENCLO DUMPSTERS ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN A ENCLOSURE. AND THEY'VE GOT SOME DUMPSTERS OUT THERE THAT ARE KIND OF ROGUE DUMPSTERS. SO WE'RE, THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS ARE SEEING THIS. AND THEY'RE ALSO ALL REQUIRED TO BE MASONRY. UH, AND THEN ANYONES THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE C FOUR ZONING DISTRICT DON'T REQUIRE A ROOF. BUT IF THEY'RE IN C FOUR DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES AND C FOUR REQUIRE A ROOF. THERE AREN'T ANY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREAM. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THIS ONE'S ONLY FOR THESE TWO BACK BUILDINGS. SO THERE MIGHT BE ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE. THERE'S, I I THINK THIS DUMPSTER, UH, SERVES THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. YEAH. STREET TRASH, TRASH PICKUP CAN COME FROM THAT, UH, NORTHERN PARK. AND SO IF YOU PUT IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREAM, IT'D BE YEAH. AND THIS IS ALL LIKE IN, UM, WHERE THE STREAM IS. THIS IS ALL WOODED, SO THEY WOULD NOT BE GOING I THROUGH THE WOOD AND IT'S, I THINK THERE IS A PATH IN BETWEEN THE TWO, UM, IN BETWEEN THE TWO ROAD ENTRANCES THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE A GOLF CART OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AROUND, UM, BECAUSE IT'S OVER THE CULVERT. UM, BUT IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S TOO PRETTY DISTINCT THERE. THE, THE BACK BUILDING SIT UP HIGHER THAN LIKE THE, THE FRONT BUILDINGS ARE DOWN BELOW AND THE BACK ONE'S UP HIGHER. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY AN ELEVATION CHANGE. ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REVISED HILLSIDE [00:10:01] PROTECTION SITE PLAN FOR LOT 73 OF THE BRENTWOOD HILLS SUBDIVISION. UH, 5 1 5 5 WEST CON, OR SORRY, 5 1 1 5 WEST CONCORD ROAD. UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN ADDITION TO THE SECOND FLOOR BY RAISING THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF. THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO BE REFINISHING THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE WITH NEW HARDYWOOD SIDED SITING PAINTING PAINTED WITH A SHERMAN WILLIAMS EVERGREEN FOG, COLOR BEIGE AND AN URBAN BRONZE AS SECONDARY COLORS. SO THE EXISTING HOUSE SOMEWHERE. YEAH. SO THE EXISTING HOUSE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IS KIND OF LIKE ONE LEVEL. THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IT KIND OF HAS LIKE A PARTIAL SECOND FLOOR. MM-HMM . WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE GOING TO BE RAISING THE ROOF OF THE LEFT HAND SIDE TO MATCH THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. SO IT'LL BE A FULL TWO STORY HOUSE. IT'S A SPLIT LEVEL RIGHT NOW. YEAH, JUST A SMALL POINT. BUT IT'S SHER SHERWIN WILLIAMS, NOT SHERMAN, SHERMAN WILLIAMS, SORRY. GENERAL INVOLVED JUST UH, . BUT SINCE THIS UH, IS INSIDE WITHIN THE HILLSIDE PROTECTION OVERLAY, ANY CHANGES TO THE ELEVATIONS OR REQUIRED TO BE PRESENTED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION? AWESOME. CAN YOU SHOW THE PROPOSED ELEVATION? YES, IT UH, IS. WOW. IT'S GONNA MAKE BIG. IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO LOOK DIFFERENT HOUSE? THAT'S A LOOK TO THEM. THAT'S A LOT DIFFERENT. SO YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THAT'S THE EXISTING TWO STORY AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA YEP. ADD ON ESSENTIALLY RAISE THE ROOF TO MAKE IT A TWO STORY THE ROOF. NO, BUT AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT INCREASING THE FOOTPRINT. NO. BUT THANK GOODNESS COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER STEM SEEING, YOU KNOW YEAH. THEY'RE GOING UP GROWING UP. AND IT TOO, IT DOES SEVENTIES AREN. YEAH. THERE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S LIKE WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE KIND OF IN THIS AREA. BRENTWOOD HILLS, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF FUNKY DESIGNS OUT THERE. YEAH. ESPECIALLY A LOT OF THESE SPLIT LEVELS. YEAH. CALL THAT SEVENTIES. YEAH. . ALRIGHT, OUR SIXTH ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS A REVISED FINAL PLAT FOR THE RIVER OAK SUBDIVISION AT 6 1 0 5 BRYAN PLACE, DONLIN LANE SURVEYING REQUEST APPROVAL OF A REVISED FINAL PLAT OF THE RIVER OAK SUBDIVISION. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO MODIFY THE SIDE SETBACK ALONG LONG VALLEY ROAD TO MEET CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS FOR R TWO OF 30 FEET. WENT ABOVE WENT ABUTTING A PUBLIC STREET. THE CURRENT PLAT HAS A 75 FOOT SIDE SETBACK COMING FROM LONG VALLEY. SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THE PROPERTY TO HAVE A LARGER BUILDING ENVELOPE. SO ORIGINAL PLAT HAD IT AT 75 FROM BRIAN AND 75 FROM LONG VALLEY. SO THEY'RE JUST SHIFTING THAT SIDE STEP BACK OVER BECAUSE THE HOUSE FULLY FACES RYAN PLACE AND YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THE TIMES IN THE OLDER SUBDIVISIONS ON CORNERS, THEY MADE THEM TO 75 SETBACKS. SO IT ALLOWED FOR THE POTENTIAL OF THE HOUSE TO FACE EITHER STREET OR THE CORNER MM-HMM . BUT OFTENTIMES WHEN THEY'RE FULLY FACING, UM, ONE SETBACK, THEY CAN REDUCE THE OTHER. AND THEN THIS HOUSE WAS ALSO OBVIOUSLY GONNA GET TORN DOWN AND REBUILT. SO TO ALLOW FOR A LARGE APPLICABLE AREA. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS ANOTHER REVISED FINAL PLAT IN THE IN AVAIL ESTATES FOR 7 6 3 DAIRY LANE BROTHERTON LAND SURVEY REQUEST APPROVAL OR REVISED FINAL PLAT FOR LOT 21 7 63 DAIRY LANE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ABANDON THE TWO SEPTIC DRAIN FIELDS ON THE PLAT AS WELL AS REVISE THE SETBACK ALONG AN AVAIL LANE FROM 40 FEET TO 30 FEET. SO THEY GOT GET RID OF THE TWO LARGE SEPTIC LOTS. WHAT'S INVOLVED IN ABANDONING THE SEPTIC LOT? THEY'RE, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE CONNECTED TO CITY SEWER. YEAH. UM, THEY DON'T NEED THE SEPTIC. I JUST WONDERING WHAT IT DOES. WHAT THE SEPTIC LOT. HEY, SO THIS PROCESS IS JUST A, A CLEANING IT UP ON PAPER. UM, I'M GONNA ASSUME THE TANKS HAVE ALREADY BEEN TRASHED A LONG TIME AGO. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY'RE JUST DRAIN FILLS. YEAH. THAT, THAT AREN'T, THEY'RE NOT NEEDED. THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT USED. OKAY. SO BECAUSE THEY'RE ON SEWER NOW, BUT THIS IS AN ENCUMBRANCE TO [00:15:01] THE RECORDED DOCUMENT. SO IF THEY WANT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE LOT, EXPAND THEIR ENVELOPE, THEY HAVE TO GET RID OF THESE. YEAH. BUT OUR WATER SERVICES DEPARTMENT WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S GOOD. AND WHAT CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOUR STAFF CONDITION MEANS? UM, SO THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL IS SHOW THE SETBACK LINE TO BE ABANDONED ON THE PLOT ON THE PLA. UM, SO SINCE THEY'RE CHANGE AND THE SAME COMMENTS FOR THE OTHER ONE AS WELL? YEAH. WE WANT THEM TO SHOW THE ORIGINAL SETBACK LINE. SO THIS ONE THAT THEY'RE REDUCING OFF OF INAVALE WAS A 40 FOOT SIDE SETBACK, ABUTTING A PUBLIC STREET. AND OUR CO IS SINCE CHANGED TO 30 FEET. SO THEY'RE REDUCING THIS ONE FROM 40 TO 30 FEET. SO WE JUST WANT THEM TO SHOW THAT OLD SETBACK LINE AND SHOW IT TO BE ABANDONED SO THAT SOMEONE WHO'S PULLING THIS PLA KNOWS THAT THE PURPOSE OF IT WAS IS FOR THE ONE, THE SEPTIC TANK ABANDONMENT, THE SEPTIC DRAIN FIELDS ABANDONMENT AND THE REDUCTION OF THE SETBACK. SO ALL OF THE PLATS HAVE PURPOSE STATEMENTS IS LIKE THE FIRST NOTE UP IN THE, UM, GENERAL NOTES. THE, THE TOP LEFT HAND CORNER. AND THIS NOTE ONLY REFLECTS THE ABANDONMENT OF THE SEPTIC DRAIN FIELD. SO WE WANT THEM TO ADD ABANDONMENT OF THE SECOND DRAIN FIELD AND REDUCTION OF THE SETBACK. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS, UM, FOR THEM TO ADD THE SETBACK LINE ABANDONMENT LINE ON THE OTHER PLA AS WELL. UM, ALRIGHT. DO YOU WANT TO, WHO WANTS TO DO THE ORDINANCE? I CAN DO IT. UM, SO THE, THE NEXT ITEM IS THAT THE FIRST ITEM ON A REGULAR? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO YEAH. UH, SO WHAT WE HAVE IS AN ORDINANCE REVISION, UM, TO ESSENTIALLY, SO OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING ON SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, STORM WATER AND WATER QUALITY, UM, WITHIN OUR, WELL WITHIN ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. SO, UM, THEY'RE MAKING SOME CHANGES OF REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO IMPROVE STORM WATER, WATER QUALITY, UH, IF YOU ADD 800 SQUARE FOOT OF DISTURBANCE IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SO ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE BEING ADDRESSED IN CHAPTER 56, CORRECT. UHHUH. OKAY. CHAPTER 56. UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOESN'T GET INVOLVED WITH THAT. HOWEVER, WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT WORK, WE DECIDED TO ALSO INCREASE THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. SO OSRD CURRENTLY HAS A 40% GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT PER LOT. WELL, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN OUR OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS. R ONE, R TWO AR. SO, UH, THIS ORDINANCE REVISION ADDS 40% GREEN SPACE TO THOSE OTHER RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. OKAY. SO THAT'S ALL THIS ORDINANCE WAS. WELL, IS THERE ANY, WAS THERE ANY AMOUNT BEFORE THIS? THERE WAS NOT, NOT IN THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS. JUST OSRD. NOW THEY ALL HAVE MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE AT 25%, BUT OSRD WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD THE 40% GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT FOR THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. THAT'S THE CHANGE HERE. SO THAT WOULD JUST BE NEW SUBDIVISIONS, NOT ANY KIND OF REPL OF OLD SUBDIVISIONS. IT, IT WILL APPLY TO TEAR DOWN REBUILDS OR IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING LOTS AS WELL OF INTEREST IN, IN IN R TWO AR R ONE? YEAH, IT WILL. OKAY. IT THAT'S, UH, MAY MAKES ME, IT JUST MAKES ME THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY, AND BRANDON KNOWS NEXT TO THE NINTH GREEN, THE COUNTRY CLUB, THEY JUST TORE A HOUSE DOWN. THE RUMOR SAYS THEY'RE GONNA PUT A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME ON THAT HOUSE. ON THAT ONE. WELL, IT, IT IS UP. I'LL TAKE UP THE WHOLE BEAUTIFUL LOT METAL LAKE. YOU KNOW, THEY GOT A BIG LOT, BUT THEY ALSO CAME IN AND TOOK DOWN EVERY TREE ON THAT PROPERTY. YEAH. AND THEY'RE GONNA PUT THAT BIG TRUCK, BIG HOUSE UP THERE. OKAY. HE'S PROBABLY GRANDFATHERED IN. NOTHING YOU CAN DO. RIGHT? HE'S NOT GRANDFATHERED. I MEAN, WITH THE PERMIT OUR DEPARTMENT CHECKS GREEN. WE'LL CHECK. WELL WHEN, WHEN DID THE APPLICATION COME IN? YEAH, THIS ISN'T IN EFFECT BECAUSE THIS CAN'T HIT UNTIL PROBABLY AUGUST 1ST. RIGHT. THIS WON'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL, SO, SO, SO HE CAN PROBABLY SKIRT THE 40% REQUIREMENT. IF IT'S R TWO, I'M ASSUMING IT'S R TWO. YEAH, I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT [00:20:01] HE'S STILL SUBJECT TO THE 25% MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. IT'S JUST, AND LOOK, AND THAT'S ANYTHING UNDER ROOF. I'M FOR IT. IT'S JUST, HE'S PROBABLY GONNA SNEAK IN AND THE HOUSE NEXT TO HIM PROBABLY CAN'T BE THAT BIG AND, AND TAKE UP HIS, WHICH I'M FINE WITH BECAUSE I THINK THEY, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE PUTTING TOO, TOO BIG HOMES ON THOSE LOTS, YOU KNOW. SO IS IT, WELL IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST THE HOME SIZE, IT'S THEN THE BIGGER DRIVEWAY. IT'S THE POOL. IT IS THE A THE SPORTS COURT. IT'S, AND THEN I'VE HEARD OF SOME TAKING AWAY ALL THE GRASS AND PUTTING JUST ASTROTURF AND SO NOW THERE'S NO DRAINAGE. 'CAUSE TURF STUFF'S NOT PER, YOU KNOW, LIKE TURF ACTUALLY DRAINS BETTER THAN GRASS NOW. BUT ANYWAY, YOU NEED PERMEABLES PERMEABLE STUFF FOR YOUR STORM WATER. YES. BUT TODD, YOU'RE SAYING, SO 25% UNDER ROOF, LIKE BUILDING COVERAGE HAS BEEN ON ALL THESE DIFFERENT YES. MM-HMM . AND THAT'S ANYTHING THAT'S ANYTHING UNDER ROOF. YEAH. SO A ROOF DECK WOULD GO AGAINST THAT. AN UNROOF DECK WOULD NOT, OR AN EXCESS MOTIVATION FOR THIS IS PURELY FOR WATER. IT'S NOT FOR LIMITING OTHER STRUCTURES ON THE LOT. WELL, I, I GUESS IT'S TWOFOLD. I MEAN, IT, IT'S REALLY FOR STORM WATER AND WATER QUALITY. YEAH. BUT IT'S ALSO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU, ON A, ON A TRUE ONE ACRE LOT OR AR IS THREE ACRE LOTS, R ONE'S TWO ACRE LOTS. CHANCES ARE YOU'RE NEVER GONNA HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THEM HAVING ENOUGH GREEN SPACE. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS ONE . SO MAYBE IT'S TO HELP. BUT YEAH, ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE, ARE ARE TO HELP STORM WATER AND WATER QUALITY AND, AND TO PROVIDE SOME RELIEF WITH ALL THE TEAR DOWN REBUILDS WE'RE SEEING IN THE OLDER SUBDIVISIONS THAT DON'T HAVE DETENTION PONDS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT DON'T HAVE THE, THE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT OUR NEW SUBDIVISIONS HAVE. SO, ALRIGHT. AND SO SOME, UH, CONFORMITY ACROSS ALL ZONING DISTRICTS 'CAUSE THEY'LL ALL BE THE 25% AND 40%. 'CAUSE THE COMMON MISCONCEPTION IS THAT THAT 40% IS APPLIED TO ALL OTHER, AND IT'S JUST OSRD. SO IT KIND OF CONFUSES ENGINEERS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS WHO ARE PUTTING TOGETHER THESE PLANS. ENGINEERS ARE EASY, CONFUSED . SO, SO IF YOU TAKE ONE OF THE TYPICAL MEADOW LAKE TEAR DOWNS WHERE THEY'RE, WHERE IT FEELS LIKE THEY'RE TAKING DOWN SOMETHING THAT IS, CALL IT 20% COVERED, YOU KNOW, WITH A SMALL HOUSE AND THEY'RE PUTTING UP THESE MEGA MANSIONS THAT FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BUILT OUT THE ENTIRE THING, HOW MUCH SMALLER WOULD THAT HOUSE BE? SO, UH, BRANDON, I'M GOING TO, IF, IF I THOUGHT ALLOWS, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN HERE. SO, OKAY. THIS IS A, IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY A PROACTIVE ORDINANCE. IT'S NOT REACTIVE. SURE. WE HAVEN'T HAD, UH, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE ANY LOTS AN R ONE, R TWO OR THE AR THAT HAVE BUSTED THIS 40% YET NOW THEY COULD, THERE COULD VERY INTERESTING, COULD HAVE BEEN SOME OUT THERE. AS KEN MENTIONED, UH, AND IT SOUNDS TERRIBLE, BUT IN THIS TEAR DOWN REBUILD THAT HE MENTIONED, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO 10,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON A ONE ACRE LOT, YOU CAN BUILD NEARLY AN 11,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME BECAUSE THAT'S ONLY 25% OF 43,560 SQUARE FEET. OKAY. WHICH IS AN ACRE. SO, UM, AND THE SET BETWEEN THE SETBACKS, THE PUDS THAT WE HAVE, UM, STREAM BUFFERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ALSO ENCUMBER LOTS, MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE GONNA BE BELOW THAT 40% IMPERVIOUS ANYWAY. BUT AS IS MENTIONED, THESE NOW WE'RE GETTING, UH, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BUILD OUT THE LOT WITH BASKETBALL COURTS. YEAH. PICKLEBALL COURTS, SWIMMING POOL, ALL THOSE ARE CONSIDERED IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. RIGHT. AND EVEN TURF, UH, TO SOME EXTENT, UH, DEPENDING ON THE PERMEABILITY OF THE TURF, IT'S ALSO CONSIDERED IMPERVIOUS. SO THIS IS GONNA PROTECT US IN THE FUTURE OKAY. FROM JUST HAVING, UH, WAY TOO MUCH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ON A LOT. NO, I, I MEAN I THINK IT'S GREAT. I, MY, I MEAN I THINK WE LOOKED AT THIS SIX YEARS AGO YEAH. AND STARTED, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE HAVING TO HAVE THE, THE WATER RUNOFF BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THAT ELECT TO BEGIN WITH. SO I I THINK IT'S GREAT. I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE SOME OF THE EXISTING HOMES SEEM LIKE THEY'RE WAY OVER THAT 40%. THEY SEEM LIKE IT, BUT, UH, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, NOT IN PARTICULAR ON JASON TO TALK ABOUT HOW OUR BRIEFLY HOW OUR CHAPTER 56, UH, REVISIONS AFFECT STORMWATER. YEAH. WELL THE, THE CHAPTER 56 KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE MEAT AND IT, IT BASICALLY ADDRESSES THE INFILL, WHICH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ENCOURAGE INFILTRATION PRACTICES WITHIN THE LOT, WHETHER IT'S MODIFIED FRENCH DRAINS [00:25:01] OR A, A RAIN GARDEN OR SOME KIND OF WATER QUALITY SWELL TO TRY TO CAPTURE AND KEEP THAT INITIAL RUNOFF ON THE LOT ITSELF. ONE, TO, TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS AND TWO, PROTECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE INTENT. THESE ARE RUNNING CONCURRENTLY, RIGHT. ORDINANCE FOR IONS. OKAY. THIS IS, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO ENCOURAGE GRAY WATER AND WHEN WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL NEW SUBDIVISIONS GOING IN AND THEY WANT IRRIGATION SYSTEMS AND THEY'RE NOT USING GRAY WATER FOR THAT? LIKE YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S A, I MEAN THAT'S A, I MEAN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A CITRON OR SOMETHING. I MEAN THAT WOULD BE AN, AN OPTION. UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO NECESSARILY FORCE, BUT THAT IS AN OPTION THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE WATER QUALITY PORTION AS WELL. I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF CRAZY. OR DRINKING WATER OR WATERING LAWNS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF . RIGHT. OKAY. NEEDS TO BE, BUT, SO YEAH, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A MODIFIED FRENCH DRAIN, SORRY. AND THEN THERE'S RAIN GARDEN THAT, AND THE INTENT IS TO KIND OF HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS WHICH DEVELOPERS CAN PICK AND CHOOSE FROM TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. SO MM-HMM . SO, UM, KIND OF A SCHEDULE. SO THIS ALREADY WENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON FIRST READING ON JUNE 8TH. YOU GUYS WILL SEE THIS ON JULY 6TH. THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING SINCE IT'S AN ORDINANCE, WHICH IS JULY 13TH AND THEN THE SECOND AND FINAL READING IS JULY 27TH AND THEN IT GOES INTO EFFECT IN AUGUST FOR ORDINANCE CHANGE. ALRIGHT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT REGULAR AGENDA ITEM. SO THIS ONE IS A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR THE ARDEN WOODS SUBDIVISION. YOU GUYS HAVE PREVIOUSLY SEEN THIS ON A, A PREVIOUS INFORMATIONAL BRIEFING, BUT NOT, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. UM, SO THIS ONE IS, UM, A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN TO SUBDIVIDE THE EXISTING LOT 12 THAT'S LOCATED AT 5 25 WOOD PLACE INTO TWO LOTS. UH, ARDEN WOODS WAS ORIGINALLY PLOTTED IN JULY OF 1997 WITH A TOTAL OF 30 LOTS. CURRENTLY THE SUBDIVISION CONTAINS 29 LOTS AS LOTS. 12 AND 13 WERE COMBINED THROUGH A RECORDED PLOT IN JULY OF 2003. UH, THE COMMON BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE COMBINED LOT 12 AND THE ADJACENT 15, LOT 15 WAS SUBSEQUENTLY ADJUSTED IN AUGUST, 2007. THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN PROPOSES TO REESTABLISH LOT 13 BY SUBDIVIDING LOT 12. SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL LOTS BEING CREATED. WE'RE JUST GOING, THEY'RE GOING BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL TWO LOTS INSTEAD OF UH, ONE. SO IT WENT FROM TWO LOTS TO ONE LOT AND IT'S GOING BACK TO TWO LOTS. THE ONLY OTHER CHANGE IS THAT WHEN ARDEN WOODS WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED DETENTION PONDS, DETENTION AREAS WERE ALLOWED TO BE ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS. NOW OUR ORDINANCES DON'T ALLOW FOR DETENTION TO BE LOCATED ON PRIVATE LOTS. SO IN ADDITION TO DOING THE LOT SPLIT, THEY'RE ALSO DEDICATING, UM, THE DETENTION AREA AND OPEN SPACE TO THE ARDEN WOODS SUBDIVISION. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS, UM, THIS PROPOSAL IS GOING TO BE. SO THE LOT, UH, 12 FRONTS IRONWOOD AND LOT 13 WILL FRONT FISHER DRIVE. SO WE READ THIS TWO MONTHS AGO AND THEN DID IT JUST DISAPPEAR OFF THE MEETING ITSELF? YEAH, SO WE HAD TO WITHDRAW. THE APPLICANT WITHDREW BECAUSE, UM, AT THE TIME ARDEN WOODS, HOA HAD GIVEN APPROVAL OF IT AND THEN THEY PULLED THEIR APPROVAL AND HAD TO GO THROUGH SOME LEGAL STEPS AND WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT FOR A COUPLE MONTHS. AND WE FINALLY HAVE AUTHORIZATION FROM THE HOA FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THE DETENTION POND AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE, THE LOT SPLIT. OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING'S CHANGED. OTHER THAN THAT NOW, NO. WE PREVIOUSLY HAD A CONDITION [00:30:01] OF APPROVAL FOR LOT 13 TO BE MARKED AS A TRANSITIONAL LOT. THAT WAS A, IT WAS JUST A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, BUT THEY HAVE SINCE MADE THAT CHANGE. SO WE REMOVED THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL. SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE EXHIBIT THAT BOTH LOT 12 AND 13 HAVE STARS. STARS ON PLAS INDICATE THAT THEY'RE A TRANSITIONAL LOT, WHICH REQUIRE AN ENGINEERED SITE PLAN, WHICH WILL REQUIRE OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THESE PLANS WHEN A HOUSE PLAN, UH, IS SUBMITTED TO, TO PLANNING AND CODES. BUT WHAT YOU SAW BEFORE, UM, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A DEFERRAL. OKAY. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO GO BACK AND GET HOA APPROVAL. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD NOW. YEAH. WE'VE GOT AUTHORIZATION AND MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. PARDON? ARE WE, MICHAEL HAS REQUESTED FOR THIS TO BE MOVED WITH CONSENT. IF YOU WANT TO WE CAN MOVE IT TO CONSENT. CONSENT, YEAH. ALRIGHT. OKAY. WE WILL MAKE THAT CHANGE. ALRIGHT. UM, HERE'S SOME, THE OLD PLOT THAT SHOWS THE LOT 12 AND 13 WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED. AND YOU CAN SEE THE DETENTION AREA THAT'S ON, UH, 16, 15 AND 13. AND THEN HERE'S, THIS WAS WHEN IT WAS, UH, COMBINED INTO ONE LOT. SO THERE'S NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO ANYTHING ON LOT 12. LOT 13 WILL HAVE HOUSE OOPS. BECOME A HOUSE. YES. ALRIGHT. SORRY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OUR LAST ITEM ON THE REGULAR AGENDA IS A MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION FOR EDLEY BARBECUE AT BRENTWOOD PLACE, UH, EXECUTIVE CENTER AT THREE 30 FRANKLIN ROAD. ARCHITECTURE REQUEST APPROVAL OF A MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION TO THE FORMER MCALISTER'S DELI TENANT SPACE LOCATED AT THREE 30 FRANKLIN ROAD FOR THE NEW EDLEY BARBECUE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A FULL EXTERIOR MODIFICATION FOR, UH, THE NEW RESTAURANT. THIS WILL INCLUDE NEW PAINT, NEW CLADDING MATERIALS AWNINGS WITH THE ADDITION OF A COVERED PORCH IN THE REAR FOR THE KITCHEN SMOKER. UH, THE NEW PAINT WILL INCLUDE BLACK ACCENTS AND GRAY PAINTED BRICK, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THESE RENDERINGS. CAN THIS BE MOVED TO CONSENT SHOW THE REAR? YEAH, JUST I DON'T, THOSE, THOSE, UH, ANGLED PARKING PLACES DON'T EXIST THERE ANYMORE WITH THE CHICK-FIL-A DRIVE THROUGH THERE. IF THEY'RE COUNTING THAT AS PARKING. OH, RIGHT THERE IN BETWEEN CHICK-FIL-A I THERE ARE SOME BACK HERE FOR THE, THE DOJO OR WHATEVER. YEAH, THERE'S STILL SOME, I DON'T THINK THOSE FRONT ONES EXIST ANYMORE, DO THEY? I CAN DOUBLE CHECK. THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY REMIC ARCHITECTURE. SO I CAN HELP, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK. I MEAN, I, LIKE I SAID, I, THEY'RE JUST NOT USED. OH, IS THAT IT? OKAY. I THINK SO. OKAY. EVEN PARKING'S THE EXACT SAME AS MCAL. THEY'RE CHANGING THE PARKING. YEAH, THEY'RE JUST REMODELING THE EXTERIOR. OKAY. I THOUGHT THEY TOOK 'EM OUT WHEN CHICK-FIL-A WIDENED SO THAT YOU COULD, YOU COULD BYPASS AROUND. OKAY. I'LL, I'LL GO OVER THE PAGE HERE. 25 BECAUSE CHICK-FIL-A THAT CHICK-FIL-A. YEAH. SO THE THAT UM, THEY'RE STILL THERE. YEAH, THEY'RE RIGHT. OKAY. IN THIS, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE. YEAH. AREA I THINK. 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A YEAH, THAT'S THE STAIRS GOING UP, SO THEY'RE RIGHT IN HERE. SO IT'S JUST YEAH, THEY ARE. THIS IS GOING TO BE IN THE BACK. THAT'S A SMOKER. UM, I THINK WE HAVE, SO YEAH, HERE'S THE, HERE'S WHAT THE EXISTING LOOKS LIKE OF WHEN MCALLISTER'S WAS THERE. AND THEN HERE'S THE, THE BOTTOM ONES ARE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA ADD THE ADDITION OF THE SMOKER. WEREN'T THEY SHOWING SOME TABLES OUT FRONT THAT OR NOT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. SO THE SMOKER'S GOING WHERE THE STAIRS ARE THE SMOKER'S GOING WHERE THE DUMPSTER DUMPSTER IS ENCLOSURE IS THERE. BUT THEN SO THEY'RE GONNA NEED A DUMPSTER. DUMPSTER. THEY'VE GOT OTHERS BACK THERE. YEAH. THAT YOU GOT THAT. UH, A PICTURE. I WISHING WEIRD QUESTION. ANYTHING ABOUT AIR QUALITY OUTSIDE? I, I'M AHEAD OF YOU. UNLESS WE HAVE A SMOKE TEST OR HERE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I MEAN, I HAD THE SAME QUESTION. THE PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS WHERE THE SMOKER, WHAT THE SMOKER WOULD LOOK LIKE. OKAY. FROM THE REAR. THE, AND THEN, YEAH. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S TABLES IN THE FRONT. I THINK IT'S JUST PEOPLE WALKING INTO IT HUNGRY, WALKING AROUND THERE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR TABLES OUT FRONT. IT'S GONNA WORK. WELL GO GET SOME. THERE'S, THERE'S NO ROOM. BE COOL. [00:35:01] YEAH. I MEAN, DO THEY WANT THIS ON REGULAR? CAN WE JUST PUT THIS ON CONSENT? THAT'S UP TO YOU. YOU KNOW, I, I THINK ED ITALYS WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO LEAVE IT WHERE WE TALK ABOUT IT AND MAYBE GET SOME PUBLICITY FOR OUR, FOR OUR MASSIVE CROWD THAT WE GET IN STANDING. EITHER WAY, I DON'T CARE. IT'LL BE A QUICK DISCUSSION, SO THAT'S FINE. FEELS LIKE THE MARKETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION WON'T MATTER THAT MUCH. IT'S GREAT. KEPT SECRET HERE IN BRENTWOOD . I KNOW. SORRY. PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. SO FINAL CHOICE IS TO LEAVE IT ON REGULATOR. YOU CAN MOVE IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. YOU GUYS WANNA MOVE IT? YEAH. FINE. WE MOVE? YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WHAT THEY ONLY DO THE FUND THAT WE HAVE ONLY WE'RE GOOD WITHOUT THAT. I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE ONE ORDINANCE. IS THAT ALL WE PART OF ALL? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.