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FROM US SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION TO
[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing June 4, 2026 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the June 8th Agenda, the item below will be discussed: City Hall Downstairs Art Discussion This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
TALK ABOUT THEIR ROLE IN PREPAREDNESS DISASTER COMING OFF OF WIND STORM FIRM IN ASSISTANCE.AND SO I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL THE SLIDES, AND QUITE HONESTLY, MAYBE WE MAY HAVE TO REEMPHASIZE FIVE MINUTES.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE TIME SLOT WE HAVE.
SO, UH, GET STARTED THEN, UH, UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, OF COURSE WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO, SO THE FIVE MINUTE TIME SLOT, IS THAT THE MONDAY MEETING? YES.
SO WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE, UH, FOR THE BUDGET.
UH, SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR THE PROPERTY TAX RATE, WHICH AGAIN, IS 19 CENTS THE SAME RATE.
AND THE THIRD PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM UNDER THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.
LEMME TURN TO THAT REAL QUICK.
FIRST ITEM IS, UH, A RESOLUTION, AUTHORIZED AND AGREEMENT WITH INNOVATIVE, UH, INTERFACES INCORPORATED FOR LICENSING AND SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR THE POLARIS INTEGRATED LIBRARY SYSTEM.
AND A SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES, UH, SOFTWARE SERVICES TO ITS CIRCULATION, CATALOGING, ACQUISITIONS, REPORTING, PATRON ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT.
WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING UNDER THE, UNDER ENDING OF FIVE YEAR CONTRACT.
THIS WOULD BE THE BEGINNING OF ANOTHER FIVE YEAR CONTRACT.
AND THE ANNUAL COST IS, UH, $48,125 PER YEAR.
SO THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
CONTINUATION OF THE SAME, UH, SERVICE WE'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? PLEASE, LEE.
THIS IS THE SYSTEM ALL BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, UH, UM, A SYSTEM THAT IS VERY GOOD FOR THE PRICE POINT, ALL LEVEL ABOVE.
THE SECOND ITEM IS THE RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZES THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THE BLAZE FOR ACCEPTANCE OF FUNDS FOR LIGHTING UPGRADES TO CROCKETT PARK, MULTIPURPOSE FIELD FOUR.
AND THE NEXT ITEM YOU'LL SEE ARE RELATED.
AND SO THIS ITEM ADDRESSES THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AND, AND BASICALLY THEY CAME TO THE CITY AND, UH, WOULD LIKE TO ADD MORE LIGHTED AREA FOR ACTIVITIES.
AND SO WE WORKED WITH MUCO SPORTS LIGHTING, WHICH WILL BE THE NEXT ITEM.
BUT, UH, UH, THEY CAN LIGHT AT HALF A FIELD, WHICH IS SUFFICIENT FOR THE NEEDS FOR ABOUT JUST SHY OF $81,000.
UH, IT'S $80,900 NO COST TO THE CITY.
THE CITY WILL BE THE, UH, UH, LEAD AND THE ENTITY THAT WORKS WITH MUCO LIGHTING IN COORDINATION WITH THE BLAZE.
MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE TYPE OF LIGHTING, THE QUALITY LIGHTING THAT WE ALL WOULD EXPECT TO GET.
UM, SO IF WE ENTER INTO THIS, THE, UH, HOPE AND EXPECTATIONS TO TRY TO GET THE LIGHTING UP AND OPERATIONAL BY AUGUST 1ST OF THIS YEAR, THAT'S MAYBE AGGRESSIVE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ALL GONNA TRY IT.
SO THAT LEADS TO THE SECOND ITEM.
WHICH ONE IS FOUR? IS THE ONE CLOSEST TO THE, UH, LITTLE FOOTBALL STADIUM? IT'S THE FIELD FOUR IS ABOUT HALFWAY ACROSS THE ALL FIELDS.
SO THE, WHERE THE STANDS ARE, IT'S 1, 2, 3, 4.
AND THEN, UM, HALF A FIELD, BECAUSE THEY'RE PLAYING CROSS? NO, I THINK HALF A FIELD BECAUSE IT WILL ADEQUATELY LIGHT THE OTHER HALF.
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN DO THAT.
YEAH, FOR THEIR KNEES, THAT'S SUFFICIENT.
THEY DID LOOK AT A FULL FIELD LIGHTING VERSUS A HALF FIELD LIGHTING, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE IT AT, UH, ABOUT, UH, $81,000.
SO THEY FEEL IT'LL, IT'LL, UH, PROVIDE ENOUGH LIGHTING FROM THEIR NEEDS.
WELL, I'M GONNA ASK SOMETHING DUMB 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE KIDS IN BLAZE.
DO THEY PLAY AT NIGHT? I MEAN, WHY DO THEY NEED LIGHTS? THEY CAN GET INTO THE NIGHT SOME, UH, AS THEY GET INTO THE FALL.
OH YEAH, MR. I PLAY LATE AFTERNOON.
WELL, THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE I'M, YEAH.
I DON'T RECALL CHILDREN PLAYING NIGHT NIGHTS.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT IS PRETTY NICE.
AND THEN IT IS, IT IS AS MUCH PRACTICE AS IT IS GAMES.
SO, UH, WE PRACTICE AFTER SCHOOL.
SO I REMEMBER, UH, FOR THE TEAMS THAT ARE PLAYING INTO THE SEASON, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT MAKE PLAYOFFS, A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE SUNSET AT, WHAT, SIX OR SIX 15 AND YOU HAVE PRACTICE FOUR 30
EVEN THE PLAYOFFS, UH, FOR BLAZE.
BUT, UH, SO I CAN REMEMBER I WAS TELLING JASON'S STORIES ABOUT BEING OUT THERE WITH LIKE OUR CELL PHONE LIGHTS, JUST, YOU KNOW, ROUGH PRACTICE LATER.
I'M GUESSING JUST BECAUSE IT'S ON THE CAS AGENDA THAT THE LIGHTING IS NOT GONNA INTERFERE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THE, WITH THE HOUSES BEHIND THE FIELDS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
WHERE, UH, PARKS FOLKS ARE COMFORTABLE.
THE LIGHTING IS GONNA DO EXACTLY WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO DO AND, AND NOT CREATE ANY OTHER ISSUES.
AND THEN THE WAY THIS WILL WORK OUT IS IT, THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ACTUAL PURCHASE WITH MUCO LIGHTING.
IT MU GOES THE PREMIER LIGHTING ENTITY FOR, FOR PARKS AND OTHER, A LOT OF OTHER, OTHER PLACES.
AND, UM, SO THAT WOULD BE AN AUTHORIZATION FOR US TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR THE LIGHTING.
AND SO THE WAY THIS WILL WORK IS, IS THAT ONCE THESE
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ARE APPROVED AND BEFORE WE ACTUALLY ORDER THE LIGHTING, THEIR DONORS ALREADY SET UP, THEY'LL PROVIDE US WITH THE CHECKS.SO, AND I THINK OUR, OUR HISTORY WITH, WITH THE BLAZE IS VERY, VERY GOOD, VERY SOUND FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE SETUP THAT WE HAVE HERE.
WELL, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT SPORTS IN GENERAL.
UM, DOES BLAZE DO REAL FOOT? I KNOW THEY DO THE PADS AND ALL OF THAT FOR THE LOCUS.
DO THEY DO FLAG FOOTBALL TOO? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM.
THERE, THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP THAT DOES FLAG FOOTBALL OVER IN TOWER PARK FOR, UH, SOME OF THE YOUNGER KIDS.
THE FLAG FOOTBALL HAS BEEN GOING ON TO TOWER PARK, AND I THINK THAT'S LIKE THIRD, FIFTH GRADE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
KIDS THAT HAVEN'T DONE LIKE THE P DIVISION OVER PLACE FOR EVERY RECENT, IT'S GETTING SO POPULAR.
IT'S, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE DOING THE, HOW DO THEY SUBSIDIZE? I'M NOT SURE THEY ARE.
I HAVEN'T HAD 'EM QUESTION, BECAUSE THAT'S MORE, MORE POPULAR ALL THE TIME.
I MEAN, THAT I DO KNOW BECAUSE MY GRANDCHILDREN LOVE LIKE FOOTBALL.
AND I MEAN, THEY LOVE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE, IT'S NOT, I DON'T WANNA DISPARAGE ANYBODY BY SAYING THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR PLAYS,
I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS TERRIBLE, BUT I JUST LIKE THE LESS CONTACT TOO.
AND I CAN SEE THAT THAT'S GROWING IN POPULARITY, YOU KNOW? YEAH, IT IS.
A QUESTION I'D HAVE FOR, FOR YOU, AND IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW, SO I KNOW WITH, UM, OUR PARTNERSHIPS, WE USE CITYWIDE SERVICE PROVIDERS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITYWIDE SERVICE PROVIDERS FOR THIS STUFF.
DOES THE CITY EVER FACILITATE THAT? BECAUSE I MEAN, IT, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IN THE PAST, AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ONE OF THESE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, YOU CAME UP A LITTLE BIT WITH LACROSSE WHERE THERE WERE SEVERAL ACROSS ORGANIZATIONS.
AND I KNOW DAVE BUN FOLLOWED UP WITH LACROSSE ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BE A CITYWIDE SERVICE PROVIDER.
BUT DO WE FACILITATE THAT DISCUSSION? DO WE SAY LIKE, WE WOULD LIKE A CITYWIDE SERVICE PROVIDER FOR FLY FOOTBALL? OR DO WE AS A COMMISSION WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO SAY, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO DO FIGHT FOOTBALL, OR WE'D LIKE SUPPORT FOR FIGHT FOOTBALL, AND THEN WE TELL 'EM THE REQUIREMENTS AND THEY DECIDE IF THEY CAN LIVE WITH 'EM OR NOT? WELL, I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW WE'VE DONE IT BECAUSE THEY SORT OF ALWAYS EXISTED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. UM, BUT I, I THINK WE'D BE OPEN.
I MEAN, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA FUND SOMETHING TOTALLY.
AND WE JUST NOT, UH, NOT WITH THE WAY OUR PROGRAM CURRENTLY OPERATES.
YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A DAY WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO CHANGE THE WHOLE THING, BUT THE WAY IT CURRENTLY OPERATES, WE WOULDN'T.
BUT I THINK WE SURELY NEED TO KEEP OUR EARS OPEN AND BE, AND PUT OUT SOME FEELERS MAYBE TO SAY, WITH THIS GROWING SPORT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEAS HOW, HOW THAT CAN BE HANDLED IN A WAY SIMILAR TO FOOTBALL AND SOCCER AND BASEBALL? LIKE THE BRENTWOOD BALL CLUB DOES A GREAT JOB WITH BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL PROGRAMS AND BASKETBALL NOW.
I MEAN, THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE IN THE METRO AREA IF YOU'RE, WHATEVER THE SPORT THAT'S BECOMING THE MORE POPULAR, YOU'LL START TO SEE IT POP UP.
AND THAT WOULD CREATE MORE LOCAL INTEREST.
AND PERHAPS THEN THAT WOULD BE THE DRIVING FORCE FOR A GROUP THAT SAYS, HEY, WE'RE READY TO WANT TO OFFER THIS FOR KIDS.
I DON'T WANT US TO BE TRAILING BEHIND, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT TRENDS.
I'M NOT SAYING LET'S PUT A PICKLE WALLBOARD OUT THERE ANYWHERE.
SPARS SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE WORKING WITH BRENTWOOD BLAZE ON THIS STUFF.
AND I KNOW I'VE BEEN, UM, TALKED TO CHARLES A. LITTLE BIT.
THE BRENTWOOD BLAZE FOLKS HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY'RE UP FOR PROMOTING OUR, UH, REFILL REUSED PROGRAM TO HAVE LESS PLASTIC AND MORE REFILLABLE CONTAINERS AT THE, THE BRENTWOOD BLAZE GAMES AND PRACTICES.
UM, IF WE THINK THAT FLAG FOOTBALL, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY ASKED THE CITY FOR MORE MONEY THIS YEAR TO HELP RUN PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY ASKED US TO GO UP, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR $10,000 WITH THEIR SUPPORT TO BLAZE.
IF WE WERE TO GO TO BLAZE AND SAY, HEY, THE CITY'S INTERESTED IN FLIGHT FOOTBALL AS A CITYWIDE ACTIVITY AND AS A CITYWIDE SERVICE PROVIDER, IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN PROMOTING FLIGHT FOOTBALL AS PART OF THE BLAZE ORGANIZATION, WE MIGHT CONSIDER GOING UP ON, ON YOUR SUPPORT TO HELP, HELP SUPPORT THAT.
WELL, IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A FLAGSHIP ORGANIZATION AND AND WE ARE, WE'RE VOLUNTEERING THEM FOR A LOT.
THEY MAY NOT BE READY TO DO, BUT RIGHT.
BUT THEY HAVE THE KNOW HOW TO RUN THESE THINGS AND THEY DO 'EM WELL.
SO IT IS GOOD TO HOOK UP WITH A VERY ESTABLISHED GROUP.
I THINK THEY MAY WANNA EXPAND THEIR HORIZONS TOO, SO.
WELL, THEY MIGHT, AND IT MAY JUST BE A QUESTION OF BUDGET RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND THE RESOURCES.
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UM, IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE.I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T HURT TO ASK THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE HAVE ANY AVAILABILITY TO TOWER PARK OR THE OTHER AREAS.
'CAUSE I KNOW BRENTWOOD BLAZE FAIRLY THOROUGHLY USES THE FIELDS AVAILABLE AT CROCKER PARK FOR THEIR EXISTING BOAT.
UM, THEY OCCUPY A LOT OF SPACE.
THEY'VE GOT, WHAT IS IT, LIKE, 700 KIDS, I THINK IN FOOTBALL AND OTHER 300 COACHES.
UM, SO IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO HELP FIND A SPACE.
WE'D PROBABLY HAVE HAVE TO HELP 'EM FIND SOME FUNDING.
BUT THEY DO HAVE THE INSURANCE, THEY HAVE THE WORD STRUCTURE, THEY'VE GOT THE ORGANIZATIONAL KNOWHOW, LIKE YOU SAY, AND THEY'VE GOT THE BRAND NAME.
SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONFIDENCE TO KEEPING THE KIDS SAFE.
SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
SOMETHING GETS TO THE OLYMPIC LEVEL, I FIGURE IT'S TRUE.
MAYBE WE OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, NOT CURLING, YOU KNOW, SO, OKAY.
ITEM FOUR IS APPROVAL OF, UH, PURCHASE OF N NETWORK SERVICES,
YOU'RE FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH NILE, BUT, UH, WE BEGAN USING NILE, UH, PROVIDING AND MAINTAINING SWITCHES WIFI ACCESS POINTS IN 24.
SO THIS IS AN ANNUAL RENEWAL, AGAIN, KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS FOR CITY HALL LIBRARY SERVICE CENTER, POLICE HEADQUARTERS, COOL SPRINGS HOUSE AND FIRE STATIONS.
UH, UH, 138,000, UH, $599 99 CENTS, UH, ANNUALLY, UH, PURCHASED THROUGH THE WORLDWIDE TECHNOLOGY UNDER THE OMNIA PURCHASING COOPERATIVE.
SO AGAIN, UH, PRETTY ROUTINE ITEM QUESTIONS.
THAT QUARTER OF THE AMOUNT AGAIN, UH, IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S 138,000, BASICALLY 600, UH, DOLLARS.
SO ONE PENNY OFF IS THIS SERVICES OR ACTUAL NEW SWITCHES AND OTHER, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT NOW THERE, WE SOME, THIS IS A SERVICE AS A SERVICE FOR PROVIDING AND MAINTAINING MAIN, PROVIDING, PROVIDING AND MAINTAINING THE SWITCHES AND WIFI ACCESS POINTS.
SO IT WOULD BE BOTH MY UNDERSTANDING.
NO OLD BUSINESS UNDER, UH, NEW BUSINESS.
A COUPLE OF, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE RELATED.
THE FIRST ITEM IS AN ORDINANCE THAT AMENDS THE, UH, ZONING.
AND THIS GOES BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION ON LARGE HOMES BEING CONSTRUCTED, WHERE SMALLER HOMES USED TO BE ON OUR LARGE LOTS AND THE IMPACT OF STORM DRAINAGE.
THIS ITEM, WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IT WOULD ENSURE THAT ALL THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS HAVE A MINIMUM GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT OF 40%.
SO IT INCLUDES THE AR THE AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL STATE, THE R ONE R TWO, UH, O-S-R-D-R, I BELIEVE ALREADY HAS THE 40%, UH, UH, REQUIRED, UH, MINIMUM GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
SO IT WOULD MAKE 'EM ALL THE SAME.
SO WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS WHEN, UH, TODD WAS SHOWING US SOME OF THE GRAPHICS OF SOME OF THE NEWER HOMES AND SHOWING THE PICTURES AND THE STATISTICS ON THOSE.
SO THIS IS ONE ITEM THAT WOULD HELP WITH THAT, WITH THE QUESTION OF THE DRAINAGE.
NOW IN, IN MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS, I THINK, UH, THAT THEY'VE SEEN, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE A BIG EFFECT BY ITSELF.
IT WOULD HELP THAT THE ANOMALY THAT SAYS, OH, I REALLY WANT TO COVER A LOT OF THE SPACE, UH, AND GO MORE THAN 40% OF THE GREEN SPACE.
BUT MOST OF THE TIME THEY ACTUALLY FIT INTO THIS.
IT'S THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE'LL GET INTO THAT'S, UH, COMES FROM ENGINEERING.
THAT'S THE TECHNICAL ITEM ON HOW DO WE, UH, UH, PERMIT AND REVIEW THE IMPACTS OF DRAINAGE OF A LARGER HOME THAT WE'LL GET INTO THAT'S GONNA HAVE THE MOST DIFFERENCE.
BUT THIS, WE FELT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, IS TO MAKE SURE ALL THE RESIDENTIAL ZONES HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT OF MINIMUM GREEN SPACE, 40% ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
UH, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ONE DOES.
SO FROM, FROM, I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T, THIS ISN'T A REACTION TO A BUNCH OF ALREADY EXISTING NON-CONFORMING HOMES THAT HAVE GONE UP THAT HAVE TO BE
AND, UH, JASON AND TODD HAVE WANTS TO JUMP IN.
I'LL, SO YES, NO, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT IS, THE QUESTION'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WHY DOES OSRD HAVE THIS 40% GREEN SPACE AND WHY DOES R ONE RV AND AR ARE NOT? IT SIMPLY THE MAIN REASONS OF COST, THE SETBACKS, UH, THE MAXIMUM COVERAGE OF THE LOT WITH STRUCTURES, WHICH IS ALREADY 25%.
THAT APPLIES ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND, UM, SO, UH, UDS SETBACKS, THINGS LIKE THAT, FOR THE MOST PART, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT 40% OF GREEN SPACE LEFT OVER.
BUT THE MORE PEOPLE GET INTO, AND WE WANT BASKETBALL COURTS, TENNIS COURTS, ALONG WITH THE SWIMMING POOLS.
WE HAVE HAD SOME THAT APPROACHED THAT.
SO WE JUST WANT IT, IT WAS MENTIONED AT A COMMISSION MEETING, WHY DO WE NOT HAVE THIS ACROSS THE BOARD? NO, AND IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO JUST GO AHEAD AND GET THAT IN THERE.
SO IT'S EVEN ACROSS THE BOARD.
I THINK, SHOULD I SAY IT AGAIN? JUST ONE MORE TIME ACROSS THE BOARD,
AND I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT.
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BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY PROACTIVE MEASURE JUST FOR, LOOK AT THE WRITING ON THE WALL WHERE WE HAVEN'T HAD A BUNCH OF PROJECTS EITHER GO IN OR IN THE PIPELINE WOULDN'T CONFORM TO THIS, BUT IT'S JUST IN CASE IT COMES WITH LATER ON FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU MENTIONED THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IT IN PLACE.IT'S A MATTER OF, UM, THE MONEY THAT RESIDENTS ARE WILLING TO PUT INTO IMPROVEMENTS ON THEIR PROPERTY IN, IN THIS DAY AND AGE, IN THE PAST, YOU HAVE A ONE ACRE LOT.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA FILL THAT UP? WITH A 2200 SQUARE FOOT RANCH HOME AND A POOL, NOW WE'RE HAVING, I MEAN, 20, 25% OF A ONE ACRE LOT IS AN 11,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME.
WE'VE HAD SOME THAT APPROACHED THAT.
CAN YOU COME STAND HERE? SO WE DON'T HAVE A LITTLE NO, I, I'M SO SORRY.
IM SPEAKING LOUDLY, BUT I WASN'T GONNA LEARN ON SITE JUST TO SEE YOU WAS LITTLE MY HEAD.
SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, COMMISSIONERS IS ONCE AGAIN, PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTING TO COVER THEIR LOT WITH IMPERVIOUS SERVICES, SUCH AS PICKLEBALL, COURTS, BASKETBALL COURTS, SWIMMING POOLS IN, IN-GROUND TRAMPOLINES.
UM, I COULD ASK MY TEAM FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE PUTTING ON THEIR LOTS, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S GOING.
AND THIS WILL HEAD OFF SOMEBODY COMING IN AND JUST COMPLETELY COVERING THEIR, THE ENTIRETY OF THEIR LOT WITHIN THE SETBACKS.
AND IT'S NOT, WE DON'T LIKE OUTDOOR RECREATION, BUT IT HAS AN IMPACT ON STORM WATER AND THE NEIGHBORS ABSOLUTELY.
THAT IT THROWS ALL THAT WATER IN THE STORM WATER SYSTEM THAT CAN COST INTO THAT RIVER.
AND AS, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ENGINEER WORKING TO HELP STORM WATER, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT.
I MEAN, IT, IT, IT, YOU COULD, YOU COULD SEE, AS DEREK MENTIONED, YOU COULD SEE SOMEONE AT SOME POINT WANT TO TRY TO EXCEED 40%, WHICH IS WHY WE WANT TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE.
GENERALLY, EVEN WITH THOSE THINGS, IT HASN'T HAPPENED.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A BIG SHOCK EFFECT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WHERE IT'S ALREADY FAIRLY GENEROUS.
SHOULDN'T BE A, A BIG SURPRISE.
BUT IF YOU HAD SOMEONE WHO CAME IN AND THEY WANTED TO FILL THE 25% UP WITH THE HOUSE, THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL.
BUT AGAIN, ALL THE THINGS HE MENTIONED, THEY GOT A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE.
THIS IS GONNA MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS, UH, WITHIN AND KEEPS THAT 40% GREEN SPACE.
AND, AND TUR ONE MORE THING ABOUT THAT.
UH, UH, UH, WE HAVE MANY MORE HOUSES USING, UH, TURF.
UH, AND THAT'S A SYNTHETIC SURFACE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW WATER TO INFILTRATE AS WELL AS GRASS DOES.
IF THEY COME UP WITH A SYSTEM AND A FACTOR FOR THAT, WE CAN COUNT THAT TOWARD THE PERVIOUS, THE INFILTRATION ABILITY OF THE SOIL.
IT'S, IT'S JUST THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THAT'S BEING USED TO MAKE THESE LOTS, UM, UH, VERY USABLE.
UH, IS, IS, IS IT'S, UH, IT'S ASTOUNDING THE DRIVEWAY AND YOU KNOW, YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE GOT PARKING FOR EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD ON THEIR PROPERTY.
IS THAT PART OF THE 60% OR THE 40%? SO THE 40% WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM PAVING EVERYTHING ANY MORE THAN 60% OF THE OKAY.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITHIN THAT EVEN PART.
YES, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT MY LIFE.
MINE'S UP ON THE HILL, BUT THERE ARE TWO MORE HOUSES HIGHER UP AND BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE MOVING AND THEY PROBABLY WILL GET OFFERS TO BUILD THOSE GIGANTIC HOMES.
I CAN SEE ALL THAT WATER COMING DOWN ON ME NOW, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, THIS ENSURES TO TRUE GREEN SPACE SO THEY CAN ABSORB THE WATER.
SO THE, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WE'RE GONNA BE ADDRESSING MORE, UH, REGARDING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS REQUIRE UNDERNEATH TURF, FOR EXAMPLE, OR IS IT JUST GRAVEL OR, SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHAT, WHAT'S THE, OR SAY JASON CAN CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
IT'S CURRENTLY MORE OF A POLICY THAN AN ORDINANCE, BUT THE WAY WE TREAT THAT IS IF, IF YOU HAVE JUST A STANDARD SYNTHETIC TYPE PRODUCT, IT ACTUALLY JUST LETS THE WATER DRAIN DOWN TO A PIPE AND THEN THAT PIPE TRANSMITS THE STORM WATER OUT TO A DISCHARGE POINT.
THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN IF IT WAS AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
WE'LL MAKE, IF THEY CAN COME IN AND SHOW US INFILTRATION TESTING THAT SHOWS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY INFILTRATING DOWN INTO THE GROUND AT A CERTAIN RATE, THEN WE'LL SAY, OKAY, THAT'S GRASS.
SO IT'S KIND OF IN THE REVIEW.
IS THERE A MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THAT? I MEAN, IF YOU GO OVER LIKE, UH, IN FRANKLIN THAT MERIDIAN THAT THAT HANDLES ICE CREAM SLASH PIZZA PLACE THERE, THEY HAVE A PRETTY BIG
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AREA WHERE KIDS PLAY.IT WOULD ALL BE DEPICTED ON THE SYSTEM THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
YOU KNOW, IF IT, LIKE I SAID AGAIN, IF IT GOES INTO A PIPE SYSTEM, THEN THAT'S PAVEMENT.
WE WOULD TREAT THAT AS PAVEMENT AND THAT 60%, YOU KNOW, PERCENTAGE WOULD COME INTO PLAY.
UH, JANET, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THE ZONING? I, I DID JUST, UM, THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US SAY, UM, WILL BE AMENDED TO, TO LOOK LIKE THIS.
SO IS THE ONLY CHANGE ON THESE TECHNICAL STANDARDS, THE, UM, GREEN SPACE OR HAVE, HAVE ANY OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE ZONES? 'CAUSE I, IT'S NOT INDICATED ON HERE, LIKE WHICH ONES ARE NEW AND WHICH ONES AREN'T.
SO I JUST WANTED THE ZONING IS THE 40% GREEN SPACE SYSTEM.
SO I, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED.
GET INTO THE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND, AND TRANSITION INTO THAT ONE.
UH, YEAH, I'LL GIVE YOU THE OKAY.
ALRIGHT, UM, JUST, UH, VERY QUICKLY I SAY WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS GOOD WHILE, UM, MY TEAM'S DONE A GREAT JOB.
UH, SENATOR CATHERINE KIND OF STARTED, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT AND SINCE THEN, UH, JASON DEAL'S BEEN SPEARHEADING THIS FOR US.
BOTH, UH, KEVIN AND JORDAN HAVE WORKED ON THAT AS WELL.
AND, UH, JASON'S GONNA INTRODUCE OUR CONSULTANT FOR US.
UM, YEAH, LIKE GARY SAID, WE'VE BEEN ABOUT A YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH INTERNALLY WITH OUR CONSULTANT, OUR CONSULTANT AT CEC, WHO'S HELPED US OUT WITH SOME OTHER STORMWATER MODIFICATIONS IN THE PAST.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH CC, THEY'RE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM, NATIONWIDE FIRM.
SO WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEM ON OUR TEAM.
NOW BAKER IS HERE TO DO A KIND OF A BRIEF OVERLAY OR OUT OUTLINE OF, OF ATION OF, OF WARRANTS, MODIFICATIONS, CHANGES, UM, FOR WHAT WE'RE CALLING IN PILL, BUT IS MAINLY THE TEAR DOWN REBUILDS WHEN YOU UP.
THIS WILL BE A REALLY GOOD TOOL TO HELP, NOT ONLY WITH ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT ALSO IMPORTANTLY IN MY MIND, UH, PROTECTING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN.
SO THAT ALL FURTHER, CHRISTINE, YOU GUYS, UM, LIKE YOU SAID, I'M CHRISTINE BAKER AND I WORK WITH CIVIL ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS, UM, IN, UH,
UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, UM, HERE TODAY.
AND SO I'M JUST GONNA GO OVER, YOU KNOW, A QUICK REVIEW OF WHAT IS CHANGING IN EACH OF THESE CHAPTERS.
AND THEN IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AND I'LL, I'LL ANSWER THEM AS WE GO.
UM, SO THE MAIN REASON WHY WE'RE TRYING TO DO A REVISION HERE, I THINK WE KIND OF COVERED IT QUITE A BIT, BUT JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY EVEN FURTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, CITY OF BRENTWOOD IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S 89% RESIDENTIAL BASED OFF OF A STUDY THAT THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD DID BACK IN 2013, I BELIEVE.
UM, AND SO A LOT OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS WERE BUILT BETWEEN THE 1980S AND THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.
AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, PRE PREDATES, UM, THE STORMWATER QUALITY AND THE QUANTITY CONTROL REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN PLACE TODAY.
UM, SO AS YOU SEE PEOPLE ADD IMPERVIOUS AREA, DO THE TEAR DOWN REBUILDS, STUFF LIKE THAT, IT USUALLY DOESN'T ENCROACH INTO THE, THE NEED FOR A FULL BLOWN GRADING PERMIT.
UM, SO THEY DON'T REALLY GET CAUGHT UP INTO THE FULL BLOWN ENGINEERING REVIEW, BUT THEY'RE STILL INCREASING IMPERVIOUS AREA ON LOTS AND IT CAN BE RELATIVELY SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU CONSIDER HOW MUCH RESIDENTIAL AREA YOU GUYS TRULY HAVE.
UM, SO THE GOAL OF THIS RESIDENTIAL INFILL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, OR RIDP, WHICH IS WHAT I'M PROBABLY GONNA CALL IT FOR THE REST OF THE TIME, SO THAT WE DON'T JUST KEEP SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, UM, IS TO BASICALLY PROVIDE SOME STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS, UM, FOR THESE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL REDEVELOPMENTS TO INCREASE IMPERVIOUS AREAS.
AND IT WILL BE A TIERED SYSTEM, WHICH YOU'LL SEE, UM, IN SOME SLIDES, UM, THAT'LL COME UP SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU INCREASE THE IMPERVIOUS AREA, THE REQUIREMENTS BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE STRINGENT.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT ADDING SO MUCH, THEN IT'S NOT AS STRINGENT, BUT THEN IF YOU'RE ADDING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, THEN WE'RE GETTING INTO MORE OF A ENGINEERING DESIGN.
UM, SO THE, THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO MITIGATE, UM, AGAINST STORMWATER FLOWS, INCREASING THOSE STORMWATER FLOWS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FREQUENT STORM EVENTS.
UM, IF YOU GUYS ARE, UM, FAMILIAR WITH THE TERMINOLOGY OF LIKE A 100 YEAR STORM EVENT THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY LARGE STORM EVENT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STORM EVENTS THAT WOULD BE MORE EQUIVALENT TO A TWO YEAR STORM EVENT, UM, OR A 10 YEAR STORM EVENT.
UM, AND SO SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN, UM, YOU KNOW, 50% CHANCE EVERY SINGLE YEAR OR A, WHAT IS THAT 20% CHANCE, UM, EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
UM, SO MORE FREQUENT STORM EVENTS IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON.
SO THOSE NUISANCE FLOODING STORMS. UM, AND SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL REDUCE NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR COMPLIANCE AS A RESULT OF
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THIS INCREASE IN IMPERIOUS AREA.UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAIN REASON FOR THE REVISION.
UM, SO NOW WE'RE JUST GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THE CHAPTERS THAT WERE ARISING AND, AND WHAT'S GETTING REVIEWED FOR ADVISED IN EACH ONE OF 'EM.
UM, BASICALLY WE'RE ADDING A NEW PERMIT.
WE NEED TO SPECIFY WHAT THE PERMIT FEE IS.
UM, AND THEN CHAPTER 14, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S DONE.
SO WE'RE JUST ADDING THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT INBUILT PERMIT IS AND THEN ESTABLISHING A FEE OF $150.
UM, SO NO OTHER CHANGES TO THIS CHAPTER, IT'S JUST ESTABLISHING THAT PERMIT AND ESTABLISHING THE FEE.
UM, SO THAT BRINGS US INTO THE CHUNK OF WHERE THIS RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT INFILL PERMIT REQUIREMENTS LIVE, UM, WHICH IS CHAPTER 56.
UM, AND THIS IS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GRADING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS LIVE AS WELL AND REFERENCE BACK TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION.
SO THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THIS PORTION OF IT.
UM, QUICK QUESTION, UH, I WAS LOOKING AT THE CHAT.
IS THAT SECTION 14, I'M LOOKING AT THE FEE SCHEDULE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT STARTS AT $25 AND GOES TO $2,500.
IS THAT A DIFFERENT FEE SCHEDULE THAN WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED? YEAH, THERE SHOULD BE A SECTION IN IT THAT SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT LIKE $150 FOR THIS PERMIT.
I THINK IT'S LIKE LITERALLY IN STUDY OR IN MAYOR ANDREWS, THAT'S JUST THE TABLE THAT EXISTS ALREADY.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE DO OUR ORDINANCES AS TO PUT IT IN LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S, NOTHING ELSE IS CHANGING EXCEPT FOR WHAT CHRISTINE MENTIONED IN THE ADDITION OF THE, SO THE 150 IS BAKED INTO THIS FEE OR IS IT ON A DIFFERENT PART OF YOUR IT'S A DIFFERENT PART IF THAT'S JUST BLACK AND WHITE, IT'S THE EXISTING PART OF THE CODE, SO IT WOULD BE A NO CHANGE.
SO, SO THIS $150 FEE IS IN ADDITION TO THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE SCALE? YES SIR.
BUILDING, BUILDING PERMIT FEE FEE SCALE STILL APPLIES TO REBUILDS AS WELL AS NEW CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? YES.
SO THIS IS, UH, AN ADDITIONAL, IT IS, THE REASONING FOR THAT IS IT TAKES ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING REVIEW TO REVIEW TO REVIEW THE KIND OF THE FEATURES THAT CHRISTINE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT.
SO JUST GONNA FOLLOW THIS IS, UH, IT IS A LOT OF FEATURES.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO FROM, I'LL JUST THROW THIS OUT, TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO PRESENT ORDINANCES.
YOU CAN SAY THIS IS THIS ITEM UNDER RIGHT
AND THAT'S WHY WE ALSO INCLUDE, SO YOU CAN THAT AS WELL.
YOU READ ALL THIS? YES, SEVERAL TIMES.
SO, UH, THE S REVISIONS CHAPTER 56 ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MORE SIGNIFICANT.
THIS IS WHERE THAT COUNT LIVES.
UM, SO WE PROVIDE THE DEFINITION FOR RESIDENTIAL INFO DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, WHICH BASICALLY IS A MODIFICATION TO AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE OR A LOT INCLUDING AN ADDITION SWIMMING POOL OR OTHER ACCESSORY BUILDING OR ANY FEATURE THAT CREATES A NET INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS AREA OF 800 SQUARE FEET OR GREATER.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAIN APPLICABILITY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PERMIT.
UM, THERE ARE SOME EXEMPTIONS, YOU KNOW, THE FLIP SIDE OF THIS IS THAT IF YOU'RE NOT INCREASING DOING A NET INCREASE IN A PREVIOUS AREA OF 800 SQUARE FEET, THEN THIS WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED.
UM, THE OTHER EXEMPTION IS THAT IF THEY, UM, IF IT'S BEEN, UH, APPROVED PART OF A APPROVED STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, MEANING A SUBDIVISION THAT IS, YOU KNOW, MORE RECENT, UM, POST JUNE 1ST, 2008, THEN IT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED BECAUSE THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONSIDERED FOR STORM WATER MEASURES IN THOSE AREAS.
SO THEY JUST DON'T, THEY DON'T APPLY HERE.
UM, I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET THOSE MORE LEGACY TYPE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, AND SO THE HEART OF THIS IS THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CALLING GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE PRACTICES, WHICH IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND METRO UH, REGULATIONS, THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING, A WORD, LIKE A PHRASE, UM, THAT, THAT THEY USE TO DESCRIBE SOME SMALLER TYPE MEASURES THAT ARE NOT FULL LUNG STORM WATER CONTROL MEASURES.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COVERED WHEN WE REDID THIS CODE, UH, PREVIOUSLY.
UM, SO THESE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PRACTICES ARE JUST PERMANENT PRACTICES MEASURES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO REDUCE THE DISCHARGE FROM POLLUTANTS.
IT MIRRORS THE DEFINITION FOR STORMWATER CONTROL MEASURES.
IT'S JUST SPECIFIC TO THIS TYPE OF PERMIT.
UM, SO THERE, AND I'LL GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT A GIP IS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S KIND OF CONFUSING
UM, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT PART.
UM, SO BASICALLY IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN THEY WILL HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THESE GIS.
CAN I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION ABOUT YEAH.
THE LAST ABOUT IT, AFTER JUNE 1ST OF OH EIGHT WITH AN APPROVED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, IS THAT FOR
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THAT SPECIFIC LOT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN OR WHAT THEY PLANTED THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD? IT WOULD'VE BEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD YEAH, THE NEIGHBOR.SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF A FUTURE LOOK IT TEAR DOWN, REBUILD CONTINUES RIGHT IN THE FUTURE IN SOME OF OUR NEWER SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE A STORMWATER WATER QUALITY, WATER QUANTITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, THEN YOU COULD DO YOUR TEAR DOWN REBUILD AND NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS.
SO JUNE 8TH, THE JUNE 1ST, 2008 DATE WAS SELECTED BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE STORMWATER PRACTICES WERE INITIALLY ADOPTED BY THE CITY AND EVERY SUBDIVISION SUBDIVISION SUBSEQUENT TO THAT DATE HAS HAD, HAD, WERE REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT STORMWATER DETENTION IN THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
REQUIREMENTS, IT WOULD BE REDUNDANT TO, RIGHT.
SO, BUT IF, IF SOMEONE HAS AN INDIVIDUAL LOT THAT THEY'VE REVEALED ON AND THEY'RE CHANGING IT SIGNIFICANTLY IN TERMS OF EXTRA HARDSCAPE OR, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, CHANGING WHATEVER, WILL THAT BE CAUGHT THEN IN THE REGULAR REVIEW OF THE PLANS? SO THEY WON'T USE, SO IF IT'S A, IF IT IS A, JUST A PLATTED LOT THAT WAS PLATTED, UH, AFTER 2008, BUT IT DOESN'T TIE TO A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY AND PROVE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, I MEAN, LIKE IF YOU TAKE ONE OF THE NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS AND SOMEBODY'S, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY ALREADY THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES FOR SHOW THAT LOOK LIKE THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN.
LET ME, SO WILL THAT INDIVIDUAL LOT, LIKE IF THEY MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ON A LOT IN A FLATTED NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER, LIKE, WILL THEY BE, LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT.
IF A HOUSE IN
OKAY? THEY DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ENGINEERING REVIEW BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING A SUBSEQUENT, UH, SUBSTANTIAL REBUILD.
BUT THOSE SUBDIVISIONS ALREADY HAVE STORMWATER DETENTION MEASURES FOR THE, FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE PENALIZING, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT, EACH ADDITIONAL LOT WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION TO ADDRESS STORMWATER ATTENUATION WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT HAS THAT FACILITY ALREADY THERE.
BUT IF IT'S A, BUT IF IT'S A, A LOT WITHIN METAL LAKE, THEY'RE GONNA TEAR DOWN A 2200 SQUARE FOOT HOME, BUILD A 8,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME, THEN THIS COMES INTO PLAY AND THERE'S DIFFERENT TIERS OF REQUIREMENTS, UH, MEASURES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO HELP WITH THAT.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, I GUESS I'M JUST WORRIED THAT IT WILL GET THE SAME SITUATION ON THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR BECAUSE I DON'T NOT, I GUESS I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THE STORM DEFENSE, THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AFFECTS YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IF YOU TEAR DOWN YOUR HOUSE AND BUILD SOMETHING BIG ON IT IN A, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OLDER THAN YOUNGER THAN 2008.
SO IS IT, IS IT, I GUESS, LET ME REVERSE THE QUESTION, SEE IF IT HELPS DEREK.
WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE THE SUBDIVISION WIDE REQUIREMENTS WITH THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE LOSS AND THE SUBDIVISION PLANTED JUNE 1ST, 2008 OR AFTER, IF THEY HAVE A, LET'S SAY THAT THEY, UH, THEY, UH, THE LOT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED LOTS AROUND THAT AN EMPTY LOT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH NICE HOUSES AND THEN THEY COME ALONG AND THEY BUILD THE BIG HOUSE HERE.
UM, SO I GUESS THE QUESTION I THINK IS, IS EVEN IF THE SUBDIVISION PLAN DEALS WITH THE DETENTION AND DEALS WITH ALL OF THAT PROPERLY, CAN A LARGER HOUSE OR MORE IMPROVEMENTS, MAYBE IT'S AN ADDITION OF THE BASKETBALL COURT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CAN THAT STILL AFFECT THE NEIGHBOR UNDER THAT SCENARIO? SO, UH, WHAT I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT IS THIS, UH, AGAIN, THESE MEASURE MEASURES WOULD NOT APPLY FOR THAT.
HOWEVER, THEY DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ENGINEERING REVIEW.
AND OUR INTENT, OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS THAT THERE'S NO ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NEXT DOOR DOWNSTREAM OR THE OWNER OF THAT LIFE.
UH, SO IT IS FLATTED, UH, AFTER 2008, THEY HAVE OVERLAND SURFACE DRAINAGE MEASURES IN PLACE, SWALES, UH, PIPES SYSTEMS THAT TAKE ALL THAT WATER TO THE STORMWATER DETENTION AREA.
IF, AND THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, AND THAT'S WHY YOU RECALL THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, WE WERE HAVING LOTS IN
OKAY? THEY, THEY COME IN, THEY GET A POOL PERMIT, THEY, THEY'RE ADDING A, A 2000 SQUARE FOOT POOL IN THEIR BACKYARD AND THEY'RE REGRADING IT, AND NOW THE DRAINAGE IS GOING TO THEIR NEIGHBOR'S LIVES.
WELL, ENGINEERING DIDN'T SEE THOSE.
AND SO WE IMPLEMENTED SUBSTANTIAL REBUILD POLICY
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WITHIN OUR CODE SO THAT ANY, ANY IMPERIOUS SURFACE ABOVE 800 SQUARE FEET REQUIRES ENGINEERING REVIEW.SO WE REVIEW THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER FROM THE POOL, THE COURT, THE ADDITION DOESN'T GO DIRECTLY ONTO THE NEIGHBORS, BUT NO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO INCLUDE ANY OF THESE BIORETENTION MEASURES IN THEIR HOME OR STORM WATER DETENTION BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF IN THE OVERALL SYSTEM.
OKAY, WELL, IT DOESN'T TAKE 800 SQUARE FEET ALL THE TIME.
MY NEIGHBORS BEHIND ME, AND I'VE ALREADY SAID, I DON'T MEAN WE'RE ON A HUGE HILL, WHICH THE GRADE IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT THEY HAD SOME LANDFILL DIRT DUMPED IN THEIR YARD, THEY WERE GONNA DO STUFF.
SAT THERE AND SAT THERE AND SAT THERE.
WELL, TO DEAL WITH THE WATER IN THAT AREA, THERE HAD BEEN A DRAINAGE DITCH, LIKE OVER THE WATER CAME DOWN, WENT BETWEEN OUR YARDS AND NOW TO THE STREET.
IT WENT IN THE, UH, DRAIN TRAP THING.
WELL, THAT PILE OF DIRT THEY PUT THERE DIVERTED THE WATER.
WHEN IT HIT IT, IT WENT AROUND AND IT ALL CAME THROUGH OUR YARD.
WE DIDN'T REALIZE HOW BAD IT WAS UNTIL WE HAD A TRENCH IN OUR YARD FROM THE WATER.
AND THAT WAS JUST A PILE OF DIRT.
AND THAT'S, SO IT, I MEAN, 800 FEET SQUARE FEET IS PRETTY BIG, YOU KNOW.
NOW THAT'S COVERED JUST UNDER, UM, THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER OUR GRADING PERMIT.
UH, PEOPLE AREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
THEY AREN'T ALLOWED TO CHANGE THE NATURAL DRAINAGE PATTERNS ON THEIR LOT, UH, WITHOUT COMING TO US FOR A GRADING PERMIT REVIEW.
AND WE, WE'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST, UH, A RESIDENT, AND I'M SORRY, I'M REALLY GETTING AWAY FROM WHAT A RESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE THEIR BACKYARD FLAT.
SO THEY BRING IN DUMP LOAD, UH, DUMP TRUCK LOADS OF DIRT, NOW THEY'RE PUSHING WATER ON THE NEIGHBORS.
THEN IT'S, THEN IT BECOMES, IT GETS, IT COMES TO US AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THEM TAKE REMEDIATORY ACTION TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
WE ALREADY HAVE A MEANS TO ADDRESS THAT SCENARIO AS LONG AS WE'RE CONTACTED.
NOW I'M JUST SAYING THAT, THAT I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT, LIKE JANET'S QUESTION WHEN SOMETHING'S REDONE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT AWARE THAT THEY NEED TO DO IT.
THAT MIGHT BE VERY WILLING TO DO IT, BUT THEY NEED TO, IT NEEDS TO BE TARGETED, I THINK.
AND JUST A ONCE AGAIN, UM, I WANT TO NO, NOT ONCE AGAIN, UH, I WANT TO SAY THIS, THIS IS A BRAND NEW ORDINANCE.
UH, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOME HICCUPS.
WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN AS A TEAM WITH OUR CONSULTANT.
KRISTEN'S TAKEN A LOT OF TIME TO HELP US OWN THIS AND TODD HAS, HAS LOOKED AT THIS IN PART.
AND, UH, IF, IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT COME UP SHORT OR ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED, WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE IN SUBSEQUENT CODE REVISIONS.
JUST LIKE ANY NEW, UH, BIG ADDITION TO THE CODE.
WELL, I THINK IT'S AN AMAZING JOB WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO IDENTIFY THESE.
I'M STILL TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE IDEA THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE TURF YARDS, YOU KNOW, THEY SMELL AFTER A WHILE AND I JUST, YOU DON'T WANT ANY SQUIRRELS OR RABBITS OR ANYTHING IN YOUR YARD, OBVIOUSLY.
DO WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT MORE AND MORE IN SNEED MANOR? THAT'S A SUBDIVISION YOU COULD BE FAMILIAR WITH.
THERE'S A HOME THAT HAS A SYSTEM CALLED, UH, GOAT TURF AND, AND IT'S, IT'S BEAUTIFUL GRASS.
IT LOOKS LIKE BEAUTIFUL GRASS.
IT'S PLASTIC LIVING IS WHAT IT IS.
SOARD, A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE ADDING.
THANK YOU FOR THE JOB THAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS.
I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE SUPPORT.
YOU, YOU'VE GIVING US A POINT, BUT IT'S DEAD FOR, I WOULD DESCRIBE IT AS PEOPLE MOVING FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM DIFFERENT PLACES THAT AREN'T USED TO MOWING THEIR LAWN AND THEY'RE LIKE, I GOTTA HAVE GREEN GRASS.
OH MY GOD, I CAN'T MOW IT, SO WHAT ELSE COULD I DO? AND THEY PUT THE GOAT TURF IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S RIDICULOUS, BUT IT IS WAY MORE CALM THAN IT SHOULD BE.
THEIR MARKETING IS REALLY GOOD.
I GUESS, AND MAYBE ANOTHER THING THAT MIGHT HELP KIND OF EXPLAIN THE SITUATION A LITTLE BIT MORE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE CLOSED 2008, THEY HAVE THE VOLUME, THEY HAVE THE, THE VOLUME, THE STORAGE, RIGHT? AND SO THIS IS REALLY TRYING TO TARGET THOSE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT.
AND SO THIS, YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT LIKE THE LOCATION OF FLOW AND LIKE HOW IT LEAVES, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, COVERED UNDER SUBSTANTIAL REBUILD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS
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IS THE LACK OF VOLUME AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THIS.UM, SO, SO THIS ADDRESSES NOT ONLY A LOT TO LOT SCENARIO, BUT DRAINAGE THROUGHOUT ON THE STREETS AND THE SUBDIVISION AS A WHOLE.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU GOTTA HAVE THE VOLUME IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT REALLY.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS.
UM, AND SO TO KIND OF BACK TO WHAT A GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PRACTICE WOULD, AND THESE ARE JUST TWO EXAMPLES THAT I FEEL LIKE ARE PROBABLY SOME OF THE MORE HOLISTIC ONES THAT YOU MIGHT SEE HAPPEN.
UM, AND THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, ON THIS TOP SECTION IT'S A MODIFIED FRENCH DRAIN.
UM, SO BASICALLY IT IS JUST A, A TRENCH WITH GRAVEL IN IT.
UM, UM, THE STORM WATER WOULD BE DIRECTED FROM, YOU KNOW, ROOFS OR POTENTIALLY IF THEY HAD, UM, SOME, SOME DRAINS ALONG A SWIMMING POOL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD DIRECT THOSE PIPES INTO A, UM, PERFORATED PIPE AND THAT PERFORATED PIPE WOULD LET THE WATER OUT, UM, INTO THE GRAVEL.
AND THEN THE GRAVEL WOULD ALLOW FOR WATER TO INFILTRATE.
AND IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S IN, IN EXCESS OF THOSE SMALLER EVENTS, IT WILL BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF IT, UM, SAFELY.
BUT IT'S REALLY INTENDED TO TRY AND CONTROL THOSE SMALLER LEVEL EVENTS MORE LOCALLY.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS A, A RAIN GARDEN.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, OUTWARDLY PRETTY, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M GONNA SAY.
UM, SO INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, A GRAVEL TYPE, UM, MEDIA, IT WOULD BE MORE A SOIL MEDIA, UM, WITH PLANTINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THE STORM WATER WOULD GET DIRECTED INTO, UM, THAT AREA.
AND THEN IT WOULD EITHER INFILTRATE OR IF IT REACHED A, YOU KNOW, A VOLUME THAT WAS IN EXCESS OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SEE THE TIERED SYSTEM, WHICH I'M PRETTY SURE IS THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, THEN IT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DISCHARGE SAFELY.
UM, SO THOSE ARE TWO EXAMPLES.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT OTHER THINGS, BUT I FEEL LIKE THESE ARE PRETTY RELEVANT.
UM, THERE'S ALSO PERMEABLE PAVEMENT THAT COULD BE USED, WHICH, UM, GETS USED QUITE A BIT.
UM, 'CAUSE IT, IT LOOKS PRETTY AND IT SERVES A DIFFERENT PURPOSE.
SO LIKE I, I ENJOY WATCHING PEOPLE DO THAT MORE, UM, SO AS WELL.
UM, BUT THESE ARE PROBABLY THE PRIMARY KIND OF THREE THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE.
UM, SO THIS BLAH BLAH, BLAH, YOU KNOW, THE TIER, THE TIERED APPROACH.
UM, SO, SO THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT TIERS AND IT'S BASED OFF OF WHAT THE INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS AREA WOULD BE ON, ON THAT LOT.
UM, SO THE TIER TIER ONE IS FROM 800 SQUARE FEET TO 8,500 SQUARE FEET AND NET INCREASE OF IMPERVIOUS AREA.
AND IT IS SPECIFYING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FIRST INCH OF RAINFALL.
UM, SO THESE ARE FOUR, YOU KNOW, AREAS THAT AREN'T INCREASING AS SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, BUT ALSO YOU'LL SEE DOWN HERE BELOW, UH, WITH THE STAR THAT IF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, UM, HAS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOME SITE CONSTRAINT THINGS OR WATER RUNOFF CONCERNS, THEY CAN ELEVATE THIS DOWN TO A DIFFERENT TIER IF NECESSARY.
SO THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME ADDED BENEFIT OF, YOU KNOW, USING THE ENGINEERING STAFF AND THEIR JUDGMENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT, OH, WELL THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT FLOODS A LOT OR WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, THE SLOPE ON THIS LOT IS SIGNIFICANT AND WE'VE GOT A DOWNSTREAM NEIGHBOR AND THEIR HOUSE, UM, IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THIS LOT.
MAYBE WE NEED TO INCREASE THE TIER LEVEL FOR THIS LOT.
SO THERE'S SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE FOR THEM TO KIND OF PROVIDE THEIR JUDGMENT BASED OFF OF DIFFERENT SITE CONDITIONS.
UM, THEN THERE'S TIER TWO, WHICH IS 8,500 SQUARE FEET TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THIS IS WHERE IT GETS MORE, UM, IN DETAIL IN TERMS OF WHAT INFORMATION THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE.
UM, THEY STILL HAVE TO TREAT THAT FIRST INCH OF RAINFALL, UM, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE CALCULATIONS FOR THAT TWO YEAR EVENT.
SO THE, UM, 50%, UM, ANNUAL CHANCE, UM, EVENT AND ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO INCREASE IN THAT FLOW RATE.
UM, AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO CHECK, UM, THE 10 YEAR, OH WAIT, OH WAIT, PROVIDE CALCULATIONS FOR THE TWO AND ENSURE, OKAY, NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRIPS, SORRY, THEY'RE ATTENUATING THE 10 YEAR EVENT, WHICH IS THE 20% ANNUAL CHANCE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO CHECKING FOR THE TWO.
THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD TOGETHER.
UM, BECAUSE WE WERE, WE TARGETED THE TWO 10 YEAR EVENT AND I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A POTENTIAL THAT BY TREATING THE 10 YEAR EVENT, YOU COULD STILL CAUSE INCREASES IN THE SMALLER LEVEL EVENTS.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY AT LEAST KNEW IF THAT WAS HAPPENING SO THAT THEY COULD FIGURE OUT, OH, WELL YOU COULD TWEAK THIS LITTLE THING AND YOU'RE STILL GOING TO MAINTAIN THE FLOW RATE FROM THE TWO YEAR EVENT.
UM, SO I DON'T, 'CAUSE WE DON'T, WHAT WE, WHAT WE DON'T WANNA CAUSE IS FIX SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE FOR A LARGER STORM EVENT, BUT THEN CAUSE ISSUES FOR THOSE SMALLER LEVEL EVENTS.
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THAT LANGUAGE IS IN THERE LIKE THAT.UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE GREATER THAN 20, 20,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, INCREASES IN IMPERVIOUS AREA.
AND THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE BASICALLY GETTING ELEVATED TO POTENTIALLY GETTING A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY SET FORTH IN THE, THE CODE IN TERMS OF STORMWATER, UH, CONTROL MEASURES AND ATTENUATION FOR, UM, ALL OF THE STORM EVENTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE CODE.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE MORE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN PREVIOUS AREA.
PROBABLY THE ONES WHERE THERE MIGHT BE AN EMPTY LOT AND SOMEBODY IS, IS DEVELOPING ON THAT LOT.
UM, SO REALLY CATCHING THOSE, THOSE SITUATIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE UP TO THE CURRENT STANDARDS.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PERFECT PLAY PLAYER
UM, THERE'S ALSO JUST SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS AND IT'S, IT REALLY TIES INTO WHAT YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR THINGS.
UM, AND IT'S KIND OF, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO CAPTURE THAT IN LANGUAGE IN A CODE, BUT WE, WE DID OUR BEST WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY AND COME UP WITH SOME STATEMENTS THAT WE FELT LIKE WOULD GIVE GUIDANCE TO ENGINEERS ON WHAT WE DON'T WANNA SEE WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY DO THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE DON'T WANNA SEE, YOU KNOW, EROSION OR AD ADVERSE IMPACTS AS A RESULT OF THESE REDEVELOPMENTS OR ADDITIONS.
UM, WE DON'T WANT THE DISCHARGE LOCATION TO BE REALLY, REALLY CLOSE TO THE LOT LINE SO THAT IT IMMEDIATELY LEAVES THEIR PROPERTY BECOMES NOT THEIR PROBLEM AND SOMEONE ELSE'S PROBLEM.
UM, SO THAT WAS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, FOR THE CITY AND HOPEFULLY I THINK YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER IT IMPORTANT AS WELL.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS MAKING SURE THE FLOW LOCATIONS STAY CONSISTENT.
IF IT'S LEAVING FROM ONE AREA NOW WE WANT IT TO CONTINUE TO LEAVE FROM THE SAME AREA.
UM, SO MAKING SURE THAT THAT LOCATION IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY DID PREVIOUSLY.
UM, AND SO THIS IS REALLY JUST ALL IN, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE CAN ADD VOLUME REQUIREMENTS ALL DAY LONG, BUT IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH WHAT, WHERE THEY PUT THE WATER SOMETIMES, HOW MUCH THEY COLLECT TOGETHER AND YOU KNOW, HOW LARGE OF A PIPE IT MAY BE AND ALL THIS DIFFERENT STUFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF NITTY GRITTY THAT GETS INTO THOSE DESIGN THINGS.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST AN, AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY AND PROVIDE SOME, SOME GUIDELINES FOR WHAT THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT PORTION OF THE CODE.
SO, UM, AND IT'S THE MAIN PORTION BECAUSE THIS IS JUST GONNA BE A REPEAT OF THE OPEN SPACE.
UM, SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK THEM.
UM, NOT SURE THIS IS ENTIRELY NECESSARY 'CAUSE YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT IT QUITE A BIT.
UM, BUT BASICALLY THIS IS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CHAPTER 78 OF REQUIRING THE MINIMUM GREEN SPACE OF 40% ON THE AR R ONE AND R TWO ZONINGS.
UM, SO, AND BASICALLY JUST STATING THAT GREEN SPACE SHALL BE FREE OF ANY PERMANENTLY CONSTRUCTED IMPROVEMENTS.
YEAH, CHRISTINE, QUICK QUESTION ON THE, ON THE THREE TIERS.
THE, THE METHODOLOGY APPROACH THAT KIND OF COMES OUT OF THE, UH, NASHVILLE METRO MANUAL.
HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN USING THOSE? OOH, MAN, THEY'VE BEEN USING THAT FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
I I FIGURED THEY HAD FOR A FEW YEARS.
SO LET'S KIND OF TEST IT ALREADY.
IT HAS, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE MIGHT NOT EVENTUALLY SEE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TWEAK, BUT IT'S NOT BRAND NEW.
IT'S IT'S NOT BRAND, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
IT'S REALLY BEEN TESTED IN THAT QUITE A LOT ACTUALLY.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE PRETTY HIGH CONFIDENCE.
AND THERE'S ALSO, I MEAN, UM, I ALSO WORK FOR THE CITY OF BELMEAD AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, DETAILED OUT MAYBE THAN THIS, BUT LIKE THIS IS KIND OF ALONG THE SAME VEIN OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO SEEING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TEAR DOWN AND REBUILDS AND IT'S DEFINITELY A PROBLEM.
SO THERE ARE LIKE AREAS AROUND THE NASHVILLE AREA AS WELL THAT ARE, ARE HITTING ON THIS PRETTY HARD.
A LOT OF THEIR LOTS ARE PROBABLY EVEN SMALLER THAN LOTS WE HAVE HERE, SO IT'S EVEN A BIGGER DEAL.
WE FEEL MOST, MOST WILL FIT WITHIN THE TIER ONE, WHICH IS BASICALLY WE WILL HAVE STANDARD KIND OF FORMS TO WHERE YOU CAN SIZE THESE, UH, UH, GIP FEATURES.
UM, THE NEXT STAGE WOULD BE YOU JUST HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING BACKUP TO JUSTIFY THOSE
TIER THREE IS LIKE, YEAH, TIER TIER THREE WOULD BE LIKE THE, THE, THE PROPERTY THAT WAS BUILT DOWN HERE ON FRANKLIN ROAD, THE HOUSE THAT HAS A GYM, A LARGE GYM WITH IT WOULD BE LIKE POSSIBLY SOME OF THE HOMES OUT IN THE HARLAND DEVELOPMENT.
YOU KNOW, SO IT THAT'S BORDERLINE NEEDING A FULL BLOWN GRADING PERMIT, YOU KNOW, IS, OR THAT'S HOW, AND, AND JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS MAYBE LIKE SOME SENSE OF, UM, RELIEF, LIKE 97 TO 98% OF THE
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STORMS THAT YOU SEE ARE, ARE WITHIN ONE INCH.UM, SO LIKE THIS IS REALLY GONNA CAPTURE LIKE MOST STORM EVENTS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE.
THERE'S DEFINITELY GONNA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA SEE WATER WHEN IT RAINS QUITE A BIT, BUT THIS SHOULD CAPTURE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SEEING INCREASE IN DENSITY.
I MEAN WE HAVE SOME LIKE FOUR INCHES OVER JUST A COUPLE DAYS.
AND THAT DEFINITELY HAPPENS AND YOU KNOW THAT THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF EVENTS THAT, THAT YOU CAN EXPECT THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME WATER.
AND I, I WILL SAY THAT WE DO HAVE, WE CURRENTLY, WE DON'T REQUIRE THAT THESE MEASURES CURRENTLY, BUT WE HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE PUTTING THESE IN.
THEY'RE GOING, WE HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE PUTTING, PUTTING MODIFIED PRINT DRAINS IN A HOUSE OUT AT HARLAND.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE INDUSTRY IS ACCEPTING THIS.
I'VE EVEN HAD A COUPLE OF BUILDERS SAY, I REALLY WANT TO DO THIS 'CAUSE IT HELPS, IT HELPS ME AVOID CONFLICTS.
SO I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE, BUT ON OUR PAGE IT SAYS ORDINANCE 2026 DASH 55 AND I THINK IN OUR, IT SHOULD BE OH FIVE, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OH FIVE HERE, RIGHT? YES.
IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT COUNTS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
WHAT'S ON THE, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT, BUT THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.
THE, UH, THE NEXT UH, ITEM IS A NEW BUSINESS ITEM, WHICH IS OUR ANNUAL END OF THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR ORDINANCE THAT AMENDS THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.
AND SO, UH, I'LL HIGHLIGHT REAL QUICK, I WON'T GET INTO A LOT OF DETAIL IN, IN UNDER TENNESSEE LAW, YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DEAL WITH THE FUND AND LINE ITEMS. MOST STATES I'VE BEEN TO YOU DEAL WITH THE FUND, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO LINE ITEMS AND AMEND THEM ALL, BUT THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LONG LIST OF LINE ITEMS UNDER THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU RECALL THAT WE PURPOSELY UNDER BUDGET CERTAIN OTHER REVENUES IN THE GENERAL FUND IN ORDER TO, UH, ALLOW REVENUES TO BE LEFT OVER WHEN WE KNOW WE EXPECT THE ACTUAL REVENUES TO EXCEED WHAT WE BUDGETED.
AND THAT BECOMES OUR CONTRIBUTION TO OUR UPCOMING YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, AND SO THAT'S INTENTIONAL.
SO YOU SEE THAT SHOW UP UNDER THE GENERAL FUND WHEN WE SHOW THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE APPROPRIATIONS THERE.
THAT INCLUDES LOCAL SALES TAX, BUSINESS TAX, BUILDING PERMITS, FEDERAL GRANTS.
UH, MOST, MOST OF THESE AT LEAST STATE SHARED SALES TAX INTEREST INCOME.
SO, UH, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT AGAIN, IS, UH, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE, UH, $4,760,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND THAT'LL GO TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, UH, AS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, UH, A YEAR IN TRANSFER OF $605,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE FUND.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF, UH, VARIETY MISCELLANEOUS LINE ITEM APPROPRIATION INCREASES IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT WE COVER IN AND TAKE CARE OF AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
ONE THING I WILL, UH, HIGHLIGHT THAT JUMPS OUT SOME, SOME OF THESE ARE RELATED TO WINTER STORM FERN.
THE BIGGEST ONE THAT JUMPS OUT IS THE PUBLIC WORKS ACTIVITY OF $6 MILLION FOR DISASTER RECOVERY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ICE STORM.
UM, YEAH, AND AGAIN, WE ARE, WE'RE FINISHING UP AND WE HOPE AT SOME POINT TO GET A GOOD PART OF THAT RECOVERED, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE BIG ONE THAT JUMPS OUT THE REST.
UH, AND YOU'LL SEE A FEW OTHER STORM RELATED THROUGH HERE, BUT THEY'RE SMALLER.
BUT MOSTLY THESE ARE THE TYPICAL ITEMS THAT WE ADJUST AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, AND THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A SCHEDULED, UH, YEAREND APPROPRIATION TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT, WHAT IT SHOWS IS, IS THE USE OF, BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FUND BALANCE, SO THE USE OF A LITTLE OVER $1.7 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE TO COVER SOME PURCHASES ISSUED, WHICH INCLUDE 13 POLICE VEHICLES, TWO NEW GRAPPLE TRUCKS THAT CAME IN PRETTY HANDY
PRETTY GOOD TIMING ON THOSE TWO.
THE GRADING, THE GRAD OR GRAD AL OR, UH, UH, PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO HELP WITH SMALL LEVEL, UH, UH, TYPE GRADING AND, AND SO FORTH, UH, OUTFITTING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, RESCUE 52, UH, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
UM, ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, OBVIOUSLY ADDITIONAL COST FOR THE FUEL THIS YEAR.
AND THEN OVER ON THE WATER SEWER FUND, ADDITIONAL REVENUE, A LITTLE OVER $1.2 MILLION.
AND THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF INCREASE IN WATER SALES.
UH, SOME OF IT INCREASE IN WATER SURCHARGE AND IN THE SEWER CHARGES.
AND, UH, THOSE INCREASES OF COURSE, ARE USED TO COVER CERTAIN EXPENSES, INCLUDING THE COST FOR WATER PURCHASES.
SO SALES AND PURCHASES KIND OF COME TO GET, GO TOGETHER, UH, TO MEET SOME HIGH DEMAND, UH, METRO SEWER, UH, TREATMENT COSTS, INCREASE IN BACKFLOW PREVENTION, TESTING, INCREASE IN REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE,
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UH, THE GRINDER PUMPS, UH, AND WATER LINES AND COST OF DISASTER RECOVERY DUE TO THE ICE STORM AND A LITTLE BIT OF BAD DEBT EXPENSE.SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THOSE COVER FOR.
SO THAT'S THE HIGH, THE MAIN HIGHLIGHT OF THAT.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO THE NEXT ITEM, UH, A NEW BUSINESS, UH, FOR IS APPOINTMENT OF THREE MEMBERS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR, UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT OF A BEFORE MEMBER, UH, TO REPLACE, UH, THE SEAT THAT IS CURRENTLY HELD BY BESSIE CROSSLEY.
SO YOU'LL HAVE FOUR APPOINTMENTS THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE APPOINTMENTS? THANK EVERYBODY FOR, UH, DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND, UH, GETTING BACK HERE.
YEAH, IT'S AN INTERESTING SYSTEM.
EXAMS CONSENT IS A VERY HIGH BAR.
I'M KIND OF AMAZED IT WORKS, BUT, UH, GLAD IT DOES.
HAVING A TALENTED POOL AND INTERESTED POOL OF CITIZENS REALLY HELPS.
THAT TAKES IT EASY, DOESN'T IT? ALL THE DIFFERENCE.
SO NEXT ITEM, THIS APPOINTMENT OF TWO MEMBERS TO THE LIBRARY BOARD.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE APPOINTMENTS? ALRIGHT.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME, UH, FUTURE APPOINTMENTS.
WE HAVE A NOTICE OF FUTURE APPOINTMENTS OF TWO MEMBERS TO THE BRENTWOOD BOARD OF BUILDING CONSTRUCTION APPEALS.
UH, NOTICE OF FUTURE APPOINTMENTS OF THREE MEMBERS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD AND NOTICE A FUTURE APPOINTMENT OF ONE MEMBER TO THE HISTORIC COMMISSION.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA, OUR NEXT ITEM IS CITY HALL DOWNSTAIRS ART DISCUSSION.
IF YOU DO, DO YOU MIND IF I BRING SOME UP TO STRIKE, GET INTO THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THE, UM, THE, THE MOST BRENTWOOD, UH, ISSUE EVER.
THE, UH, THE ROGUE GARUM OVER THERE.
UM, I JUST WANT, JUST IN TERMS OF HELPING MAKE SURE THE STAFF USES THEIR, THEIR, THEIR TIME WELL, I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, IT CAME UP IN KIND OF AN ODD WAY IN THE SENSE THAT BECAUSE IT WAS FEATURED IN A NEWS REPORT, IT KIND OF PUT IT ALL ON IN FRONT OF US AND FRONT OF THE PUBLIC, I GUESS, A LOT MORE QUICKLY AND A LOT MORE PUBLIC DISCUSSION THAN, THAN YOU MIGHT THINK.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, HAVING SOMEBODY PUT CHANGES TO CITY PROPERTY WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS WAS AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WITH THE BEST OF INTENTIONS.
BUT I, I JUST WANTED TO GET A FEEL FOR THE, THE, THE MOOD OF THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WANT THE STAFF TO DO.
BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OPTIONS REALLY IN FRONT OF US WOULD BE TO EITHER KEEP THE LAND ESSENTIALLY AS A, AS A GREENWAY BUFFER, WHICH IS HOW IT'S ZONED AS HOW IT WAS INTENDED AND HOW WAS AGREED UPON WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS DONE BACK IN THE NINETIES.
OR IF WE WANNA MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THE USE OF THE LAND, WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AND INVEST MONEY IN IT.
UM, NOW WE'VE GOTTEN QUITE A BIT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK OVER THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS SINCE THEY HIT THE NEWS AND THEY HIT SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO, YOU KNOW, ON ONE HAND, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF COULD LOOK INTO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A PENCIL TO THE COST OF THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
BUT THAT WOULD TAKE SOME STAFF TIME AND EFFORT AND, YOU KNOW, PUT LOAD ON 'EM.
SO IF THERE'S ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS WE'RE NOT REALLY SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING, I'D WANNA INDICATE TO THE STAFF.
I, I GUESS I, I WOULD WANT TO HEAR FROM KRISTEN.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE HER REPORT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF, IF WE DON'T REVERT IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS AND, AND IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS OF LIABILITY AND MAINTENANCE AND PROVIDING PARKING AND ACCESS AND ALL THAT? IF, IF NOT, IF WE DOES, LIKE, IS AN ARBORETUM AUTOMATICALLY A PARK, I GUESS? AND SO THEN IT FALLS UNDER ALL THOSE RULES OR EXACTLY.
LIKE WHAT'S OUR OBLIGATION AS A CITY IF WE LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS NOW? WELL, IF WE LEAVE IT THE WAY THAT IT IS NOW, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PE ONE OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM PUBLIC ENTITY PARTNERS HAS GONE OUT AND SEEN THE PARK AND MADE NOTES.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOTTEN A REPORT BACK YET.
UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DID HAVE CONCERNS.
'CAUSE I SPOKE WITH, UM, ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE FROM THERE.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL BE GETTING A REPORT ON WHAT ITEMS THEY HAVE DEEMED UNSAFE THAT NEED TO EITHER BE, EITHER THE CITY NEEDS TO CHOOSE TO MAKE THEM SAFE OR HAVE THEM REMOVED.
UM, BUT YES, WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE BECAUSE IT IS, IT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY, RIGHT.
AND NOW PEOPLE ARE BEING INVITED TO GO ON THERE WITH ADDITIONS
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THAT THE CITY HAS NOT STUDIED OR, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY DAVE AND HIS TEAM DO A GREAT JOB RESEARCHING THE TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT GO IN OUR PARKS.SO, UM, YEAH, WE HAVE TO COME UP TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
SORRY, TO ADD TO THAT, DAVE WENT OUT THERE WITH THE PEOPLE, RIGHT? YES.
AND SAID THAT THEY, HE WAS, THEY WERE WAITING FOR FEEDBACK MM-HMM
BUT HE SAID WHEN THEY WERE THERE, JUST THE AMOUNT OF RAIN AND THE, THE, THE BRIDGES ARE SUPER SLIPPERY.
AND SO JUST FROM COMMON SENSE, IF THAT WAS SOMETHING TO, TO STAY LIKE THAT NEEDS TO GO MM-HMM
THERE'S A, I MEAN, I JUST, JUST USING COMMON SENSE AND THE BRIDGES AND THAT KIND OF THING.
THAT'S, IT'S JUST, I MEAN, BASED ON WHAT HE SAID AND THE AMOUNT OF RAIN AND THE, THE, THE PAST THAT WERE THERE, THAT'S SUPPO WERE SUPPOSEDLY CREATED.
HE SAID IT LOOKED MORE LIKE RAIN HAD MADE THOSE PATHS.
UM, JUST BY ITS, YOU KNOW, BY NATURE BEING NATURE.
SO, BUT, UM, BUT PERSONALLY, I, I FEEL LIKE THIS HAS NEVER, IT'S NOT IN ANY 20 16, 20 20 PLAN.
THIS WAS NEVER SOMETHING THAT WAS EVER TALKED ABOUT TO BE BUDGETED FOR, UM, TO BE MAINTAINED.
AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE ARE OTHER, WE HAVE WENDY HILL PARK RIGHT NOW THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH.
AND I WOULD RATHER SPEND OUR TIME AND MONEY ON MAKING THAT NEED, NEED THAT KIND OF A, UM, WHATEVER THE PEOPLE ARE WANTING AND, AND FOCUS ON THAT RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY TOOK AND TRIED TO IMPROVE WITHOUT KNOWINGLY GOING, AVOIDING THE SYSTEM OF COMING TO US.
I WANNA JUMP OFF OF KRISTEN'S QUESTION A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THE QUESTION TO KRISTEN FROM JANET.
'CAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO THINGS.
UH, SAFETY AS SHE MENTIONED, AND THEN ACCESSIBILITY.
AND THAT'S UNDER THE AMERICANS DISABILITIES ACT THAT GENERALLY TRIGGERS ACCESSIBILITY.
WE ARE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, SO GOING BACK, UNLESS SHE NODS THE OTHER WAY,
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR ANY REQUIREMENTS ON THE PROPERTY.
AND IF, AND IF THOSE AREN'T MET, SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
UM, AND WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT CAREFUL TOO, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU CAN BE RESPONSIBLE, BUT IF YOU TURN YOUR HEAD TO YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOU HAVE INSURANCE COVERING THAT RISK EITHER.
IT'S NOT ANYTHING WE'VE LOOKED AT REAL CLOSELY HERE YET, BUT IT CAN BE A QUESTION.
SO, UM, WE, WHEN WE GET THE REPORT FROM PEP, WE'LL KNOW AND, AND WE DO ANTICIPATE, AS WE'VE MENTIONED, THAT THERE WILL HAVE TO BE THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CHANGED IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT AS AN IMP IMPROVED OR MODIFIED ARBORETUM VERSUS JUST A PURE FORESTED SPACE THAT'S JUST OPEN.
UM, THE, UH, WE WOULD ON, ON THE DISABILITY SIDE, I'LL SPEAK GENERALLY AND SEE IF I SPEAK OUTTA TURN, OUR ENGINEERING FOLKS ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR.
THEY CAN SAY, WELL, HOLD ON JASON.
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, FROM AN ACCESSIBILITY PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU CREATE A PATHWAY, IF YOU CREATE A, I'LL CALL IT IMPROVEMENTS, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD, IF YOU MAKE PHYSICAL MODIFICATIONS TO PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UH, PUBLIC ACCESS, THAT'S WHAT USUALLY TRIGGERS THOSE THINGS.
SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PATHWAY THROUGH THERE, WELL, IT'S INTENDED TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO ALL.
AND SO THAT MEANS A PATHWAY, AT LEAST THE MAIN PATHWAY, NOT NECESSARILY EVERY PERIPHERAL PATHWAY, BUT AT LEAST THE MAIN PATHWAY GENERALLY MUST BE ACCESSIBLE.
DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO BE HARDSCAPE LIKE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT, BUT IT WILL HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF MATERIAL THAT ISN'T GONNA WASH AWAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE SLOPES, UH, CROSS SLOPES, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GENERALLY ADDRESSED.
IF THERE ARE SITTING PLACES, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ACTIVITY PLACES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO GENERALLY THE MAIN AREA OR CONSIDERED PRIMARY, UH, UM, UH, IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE, UM, THOSE NEED TO BE ACCESSIBLE AS WELL.
SO IF YOU HAD A PATHWAY, BUT A BENCH WAS OVER THERE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE SLOPES ARE BAD, IT'S KIND OF MUDDY GOING THROUGH THERE.
WELL, IF IT'S CONNECTED TO THE MAIN PATHWAY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU NEED TO BE SURE THERE'S AN ACCESSIBLE ROUTE TO THAT BENCH AS WELL.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE ENTRANCE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS IS OFF OF, THERE'S KIND OF MULTIPLE ENTRANCES.
ONE OF 'EM IS OFF OF A PUBLIC STREET.
THERE IS NO PARKING LOT, THERE'S NO PARKING AREA OTHER THAN THE PARK ON THE STREET.
SO YOU, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AN ACCESSIBLE APPROACH TO GET TO THE FACILITY.
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BUILD A LARGE PARKING LOT.
BUT I THINK LOOKING AT THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA LEAVE THAT WITH, WITH CERTAIN PHYSICAL CHANGES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO FIND, UH, CREATE A, A WAY FOR SOMEONE WITH DISABILITY.
SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO BE IN A WHEELCHAIR, IT'S FOR ANYBODY THAT HAS A DISABILITY, RIGHT? SO, UH, UH, BUT IN THIS CASE, THE PHYSICAL ACCESS TO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE.
THAT GETS THEM TO THE MAIN PATH.
SO MORE LIKELIHOOD, YOU CAN'T ASSUME THAT SOMEONE HAS A PHYSICAL DISABILITY, ALWAYS HAS SOMEONE TO DROP THEM OFF AND YOU CAN JUST DROP 'EM OFF AND CAR GOES AWAY.
THEY'RE GONNA NEED A PLACE TO PARK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE INDEPENDENT WITH, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, MILLIONS OF PEOPLES DISABILITIES, THEY'RE STILL INDEPENDENT, DRIVE THEIR OWN VEHICLES AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT.
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TO BE ABLE TO THEN GET SAFELY, UH, TO THE, UH, AMENITIES INSIDE.AND SO IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, I THINK YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PARKING FACILITIES THAT CONNECT A PATHWAY INTO IT.
THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS, DEPENDING ON SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, BUT IF YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE ON ONE SIDE OF IT, BUT THE REST OF IT'S PRETTY FLAT, I WOULD SAY THAT WON'T GET YOU OUT OF TRYING TO CREATE A SAFE ACCESSIBLE ACCESS TO IT.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT.
WE DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE RESTROOMS. UH, AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE EVERY PARK IN OUR COMMUNITY, SUCH AS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD WHERE THERE'S A TRAIL.
THEY DON'T HAVE RESTROOMS. MOST OF THE IMPROVED PARKS DO.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE A RESTROOM, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE ACCESSIBLE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE TO HAVE A RESTROOM.
THAT WOULD BE A CHOICE THAT YOU MAKE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO WOULD, UH, KIND OF LOOK AT THE ACCESSIBILITY SIDE OF THIS AS WELL PRETTY QUICKLY.
WE WANT TO TRY TO DO THAT PRETTY QUICKLY.
NOT SPEND A LOT OF TIME OR MONEY, UH, ON THAT.
I, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, GENERALLY RIGHT NOW, YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE TO SPEND I THINK, A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PRETTY EASY.
UH, IF YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO HAVE A TRUE DEVELOPED, PROPERLY IMPROVED, UH, ARBORETUM ACCESSIBLE TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC AND SAFE.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE EXACT COSTS.
THOSE ARE, THAT'S REALLY A ROUGH GUESSTIMATION.
BUT WE DO RECOGNIZE SOME THINGS WE DO BELIEVE WOULD HAVE TO BE PROPERLY UPGRADED, LIKE THE BRIDGES WE TALKED ABOUT FOR SAFETY AND MAYBE ACCESSIBILITY, THE MAIN PATHWAY.
CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT, CERTAIN THINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN OUT.
THAT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
BUT I THINK THERE WOULD BE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT COST.
AND AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'VE EVER REALLY DISCUSSED OR PLANNED FOR.
SO IT'S NOT TO SAY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, BUT THERE IS A COST.
YOU'D HAVE TO PUT IT IN YOUR BUDGET BECAUSE WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
SO THAT BEING SAID, GOING BACK MAYOR TO WHAT YOU WERE MENTIONING, IF YOU ALREADY HAVE GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO GO THERE AND SAVE SOME TIME.
WELL, I, I WANNA SAY MY PIECE FIRST BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT GENERAL CONSENSUS, BECAUSE I, I ONLY HEARD FROM TWO OF THEM SAYING ANYTHING SO FAR.
I DON'T CARE WHAT THE COST IS.
IT'S CRYSTAL CLEAR TO ME WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THIS SITUATION.
THIS IS MY OPINION AND MY OPINION ONLY.
BUT I, I HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.
I WAS THE CITY COMMISSIONER THAT VOTED FOR THAT TO BE A GREENWAY BUMPER THAT I LIVE ONE BLOCK FROM THAT PROPERTY.
SO I'M REALLY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
THEY DIDN'T PLAN 'EM AND CREATE AN ARBORETUM.
THEY WILL BE THERE UNTIL NATURE TAKES 'EM DOWN.
AT THAT ONE TIME, WESTGATE COMMONS, THAT WHOLE PROPERTY WAS OWNED BY ST.
PART OF IT WAS C FOUR, WHICH IS, UH, INDUSTRIAL.
THOMAS HOSPITAL CAME TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
I'VE TOLD SOME OF Y'ALL THIS STORY, ASKING TO PUT A HOSPITAL THERE.
AND NUN WAS THEIR CEOI WENT TO CATHOLIC SCHOOLS.
JOE SWEENEY WENT TO CATHOLIC SCHOOLS.
WE NEVER SAID NO TO A NUN, BUT WE DID THAT NIGHT.
WE SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT PUT IN A HOSPITAL HERE.
WELL, THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED BECAUSE A TRUCK STOP WAS A REAL POSSIBILITY WITH THE EXISTING ZONING.
SO TWO LOCAL RESIDENTS OF BRENTWOOD WANTED TO DEVELOP A BUSINESS PARK SHOP, A RETAIL RESTAURANT TYPE PLACE.
THE NEIGHBORS MET WITH THEM FOR MONTHS.
I DIDN'T GO TO THE MEETINGS 'CAUSE I HAD TO VOTE ON IT.
BUT THE ME, MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS LIVED DOWN THERE AT WHAT IS NOW LABELED THE MARYLAND LANE ENTRANCE.
THEY WERE INSISTENT THAT THEIR HOMES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BE PROTECTED FROM RETAIL.
THEY HAD JUST BUILT THEM ALL ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THEY WERE STARTING TO FEEL THE, THE EFFECT OF THAT ALREADY.
SO THIS, WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT TO THE CITY, THE CITY HAD SAID, WE WON'T REZONE THIS UNLESS THE NEIGHBORS AND THE DEVELOPERS ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.
WE GOT THIS NICE REVENUE PRODUCING, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS NICE, AND WE GOT A GREENWAY BUFFER THAT WOULD BE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SECOND IS I BELIEVE IN LAW AND ORDER.
I MEAN, WHAT THE RULES ARE RULES.
WE MAKE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE CITY OBEY THE LAW ALL THE TIME.
YOU CAN'T PUT UP A FENCE THAT IS, OH, WELL THAT'S SOME HOA RULES.
BUT THE CITY DOES HAVE SOME THINGS ABOUT HEIGHT AND ALL, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH, JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY DECIDES THAT HE WANTS TO
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HAVE THE CITY PROPERTY AS HIS HOBBY AND BUILD A FIRE PIT AND BRIDGES AND WORKOUT STATIONS, I SAY, OKAY, WE MIGHT NEED YOU SET THIS UP THIS MORNING.WE NEED SOME MORE LITTLE FOOTBALL FIELDS.
WELL, LET'S, SOMEBODY OUGHTA PUT ONE RIGHT BESIDE THE LIBRARY IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ROCK WALKING PATH.
I'M SURE THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO SAY, WE NEED THAT.
I'M, I GUESS I'M VERY CUT AND DRY, BLACK AND WHITE ON SOME THINGS, BUT LAWS THAT WE ENFORCE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE'S ANY PROBLEM HERE ABOUT WHAT TO DO FOR MY VOTE.
I DON'T THINK THAT, I, I THINK THAT IF, IF WE CAN REMOVE WHATEVER IS NOT COM LIKE THE BRIDGES AND STUFF, I'M LEAVING IT, THE WALKING PATHS OR WHATEVER, I'M, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, WHICH HAS BEEN FOR YEAH.
BUT TO HAVE IT, TO HAVE SOMEBODY KNOWINGLY, I MEAN, IT WASN'T LIKE HE DIDN'T KNOW, HE KNOWS, I MEAN, HE WAS ON BOARDS.
HE APPLIED TO BE A CITY MANAGER.
HE WANTED TO BE A CITY COMMISSIONER.
AND HE KNOWINGLY, UM, WENT AGAINST THAT.
AND I JUST, UM, I JUST, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY PRETTY ANGRY THAT HE PUT US IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT, THEY HAD A GREAT, A GREAT AREA.
PEOPLE ENJOYED IT AND JUST TOOK IT TOO FAR.
AND IF I WAS ANY OF THOSE HOMES ALONG THE WAY AND PEOPLE WERE PARKING THERE TO GO AND WALK OR DO WHATEVER, I MEAN, I, IT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM.
THEY HAD NO SAY IN WHAT HE WAS DOING AND THAT, IT'S JUST SO, YEAH, I JUST A NICE WALKING AREA TO TAKE OUT THE DANGEROUS STUFF AND, AND NOT PUT ANY MORE BURDEN ON OUR CITY STAFF TO EVEN LIKE, MANAGE IT OR STUDY IT OR WHATEVER.
I JUST, ANYWAY, JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION TOO, NOT SO MUCH FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC IS THAT, UH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF TALK OF TREES AND PRACTICALLY ALL THOSE TREES HAVE BEEN ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
THERE'S A HANDFUL THAT HAVE BEEN PLANTED.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO EVER BE REMOVAL OF TREES.
THE POINT OF IT IS A FORESTED BUFFER.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO IF ANYBODY SAYS THAT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ACCURATE WHATSOEVER.
I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE, UH, I'M CALLING IT THE MARYLAND WAY ENTRANCE, BUMP
HAVE YOU SEEN IT? I'VE WALKED IN YET
IS THAT STREET DESIGNATED? IS THAT STU OUT? WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE DESIGNATION AT THE END OF THAT STREET? IS IT TEMPORARILY, YOU KNOW OH, TEMPORARY DEAD END VERSUS TEMPORARY DEAD END VERSUS IT'S JUST A DEAD END.
SO THERE WA IT WAS LEFT AVAILABLE TO CONNECT TO THAT PROPERTY WHEN IT DEVELOPED.
BUT OF COURSE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
SO IT JUST REMAINS DESIGNATED AS A DEAD END.
YEAH, SO, SO PUTTING ANY OF THAT BUFFER THAT GROWS INTO THOSE NEIGHBOR'S YARDS, THOSE NEIGHBORS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CUTTING AND TRIMMING AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS TO, YEAH, I, I'M LEAVING THE QUESTION ABOUT IF YOU BRING A BULLDOZER DOWN THAT STREET AND, AND LOWER THAT
AND YOU RAISED ANOTHER QUESTION TOO, BECAUSE IT, RIGHT NOW, ABSENT THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS IN SOME OF OUR COMMITTEES, IT'S NOT REALLY MUCH KNOWLEDGE OF THAT OTHER THAN JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, BUT IF, IF YOU DID DECIDE TO SAY, WELL NO, WE WANT TO MAKE THIS FORMAL, IT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, IT HAS IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
THAT, AND THE POINT OF THE BUFFER REALLY WAS NOT TO HAVE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT OR REALLY ANYTHING.
ANYTHING THAT WOULD CREATE THAT ACTIVITY THERE OR ANY ACTIVITY THERE AND THEN WANTING TO KEEP IT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I MEAN THAT, THAT SETS A PRETTY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.
YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT GREENWAY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AT THE CORNER OF COLORADOS AND MERRILL AND A BOYS LANE.
MAYBE WE OUGHT TO PUT A WALKIN PATH THERE IN A COUPLE OF AMENITIES.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA START DECLARING GREENWAYS AS PARKS NOW.
WELL, SO IT, AND IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT, WE DO HAVE PARKS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS WE DO HAVE GREENWAYS THAT HAVE PEDESTRIAN PASS ON THEM, BUT THEY'RE LONG AND LINEAR AND THEY'RE VERY, UH, DIFFERENT FROM THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS MORE LIKE A PARK IN THAT IT'S A LARGE CHUNK OF LAND THAT ISN'T REALLY CONNECTED WITH A PEDESTRIAN PATH TO ANYWHERE ELSE.
IF, IF IT'S GOING TO FUNCTION LIKE ANYTHING, IT'S GONNA
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FUNCTION MORE LIKE A PARK.UH, SO IN THIS CASE, IT'S LIKE OTHER GREENWAYS THAT WE HAVE THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THEM.
BUT BY VIRTUE OF THE CHANGES THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL'S GONE OUT AND MADE PURELY OF HIS OWN ACCORD, WHICH BY THE WAY IT'S WORTH STATING THAT PREVIOUSLY, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE WITH, WITH GRASS SEED AND WHATNOT TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A GOLF COURSE OUT THERE BY THE SAME INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATION HAD TO BE HAD BY OUR PARKS DIRECTOR.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT HAD BEEN MOVED ON TO OUR PROPERTY BEHIND HIS LOT LINE.
YOU NEED TO GET THAT OFF OF OUR PROPERTY.
SO THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE USE OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT NOW THERE'S THIS ARBORETUM AND THESE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WHICH EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM.
OTHER THOUGHTS? SO I GUESS WE'VE HEARD FROM ALL
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
SO I MEAN, I'M, I'M KIND OF PAST THAT QUESTION ON TO THE COST OF THE RESTORATION.
AND BY THAT I DON'T MEAN, YOU KNOW, TAKING OUT TREES LIKE YOU SAID.
I MEAN THE MORE THE BARRIERS AS FAR AS TREES, ALTHOUGH THE THING IS GREEN, WE BUFFER IS SUPPOSED TO BE TREES THAT NATURALLY PROLIFERATE AS OPPOSED TO A CURATED COLLECTION OF TREES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THESE TREES OUT THERE PREDATE THE OFFICE PARK.
I MEAN, LOOK AT SOME OF THESE TREES, THEY'RE PROBABLY 50 YEARS OLD OR MORE, UM, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
BUT, SO, UH, I I GUESS IF I WAS GONNA HAVE THE STAFF WORK ON SOMETHING, IT WOULDN'T BE, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO MAKE IT A PARK? 'CAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S ON THE TABLE.
I THINK THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WHAT IS THE COST OF CLEANUP AND WHO PAYS THAT AND WHETHER OR NOT THE RESIDENT THAT CREATED THE PROBLEM, I MEAN, IS THERE A MECHANISM TO ASK HIM TO CLEAN UP HIS OWN MESS? AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT HE'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT SINCE HE CREATED THIS PROBLEM.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CHARGE IT TO THE TAXPAYERS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF HE HAS CREATED A BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYER, WE'LL DO ABOUT IT.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S MORE OF THE QUESTION IN MY MIND.
IF I WAS GONNA HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE STAFF AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PUNITIVE OR I SHOULD SAY INAPPROPRIATELY PUNITIVE, BUT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS IT APPROPRIATELY WITH MY, MY CONSIDERATION GOES MUCH MORE TO THE TAXPAYER CITIZEN THAT IS OBEYING THE LAW THAN THE PERSON WHO'S CREATING THE COST OF THE TAXPAYER.
THAT DOESN'T GENERATE A BENEFIT FOR OUR SUBSTANCE.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT BALANCE IS FAIRLY, IS IS MORE THE QUESTION I ASK, IT HAS TO BE CLEANED UP.
I THINK UNTIL GET THE REPORT AND THE STUFF LIKE THAT ALL OUT IS ABOUT ALL THAT TIME.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M ASKING.
IF THERE'S A QUESTION I HAD FOR THE STAFF, WHAT IS THAT? SO WE DON'T CREATE A LIABILITY, BUT LIKE I DON'T WANNA GO OUT THERE AND LIKE IF SOMETHING CAN REMAIN AND JUST DETERIORATE NATURALLY YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
ANYTHING THAT'S KIND OF BUILT RIGHT.
NOT, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S ONE THING TO MOW SO PEOPLE, SO THERE'S A PLACE TO WALK.
BUT ANYTHING THAT'S ACTUALLY BUILT STARTS TO GET YOU INTO THE QUESTION OF ACCESSIBILITY AND SAFETY AND ALL THAT.
SO MY, MY ASSUMPTION WE'LL LOOK AT IT IS THAT ANY OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED.
I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
AND I DO THINK THAT MAKES SENSE TO OFFER THOSE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN PUTTING THAT THERE A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME AND OPPORTUNITY TO REMOVE IT FIRST.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, UH, WE CAN ESTIMATE A COST, BUT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO TAKE IT BACK TO, TO THE STATUS THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR.
SO THE CITY IS CURRENTLY CUTTING THAT PROPERTY.
LIKE HISTORICALLY WE WOULD MOW IT DURING THE MOWING SEASON ONCE A MONTH.
AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER HAS BEEN CREATING THE TRAILS WITH THEIR OWN MOW TAGGING INTO THE YEAH, I JUST WONDER WHERE, BECAUSE THE CLAIM WAS MADE THAT HE HAD WORN OUT THREE MOWS THAN THE PROCESS, WHICH IF HE DID, SO IT WAS, IF IT'S ON CHOOSING.
BUT UM, I WILL TELL YOU THE, THE EMAILS, I'M SURE WE'RE ALL GETTING THE EMAILS, SOME OF THEM ARE UH, INTERESTING AND UH, FOR THE MOST PART IT'S VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF JUST RETURNING IT TO THE GREENWAY STATUS IT WAS INTENDED FOR.
SO I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING SO FAR.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S COPIED ON THOSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF KRISTEN'S COPIED ON SOME OF THEM, BUT NO.
YEAH, THAT'S THE OVERWHELMING CONSENSUS OF WHAT I'VE GOTTEN THROUGH ALL DIFFERENT CONTACTS.
I MEAN RETURN TO TEXT, TEXT INTENDED USE, I THINK I'VE GOTTEN LESS THAN FIVE THAT HAVE SAID ANYTHING BESIDES THAT'S A GREENWAY BUFFER NEEDS TO STAY A GREENWAY BUFFER.
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COUPLE AND, AND PROBABLY TWO THAT I CAN THINK OF, OF THE ONES THAT SAID I LIKE TREES, THOUGHT THAT WE HAD TO GO OUT THERE WITH LIKE A TRACK HOLE AND PULL THE TREES ALL DOWN AND WE TREES TOO.SO THEY EXPLAIN THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY'RE LIKE, OH NO THAT'S FINE.
WELL I TRIED TO POINT OUT TO PEOPLE THAT WE ARE NOT IMPERVIOUS TO PEOPLE COMING WITH IDEAS.
I MEAN LOOK AT THE MOUNTAIN BIKE
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SAY ONLY WE CAN SAY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR PARK.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, BRING US YOUR IDEAS.
BUT THEY BROUGHT 'EM AND WORKED WITH US AND IT WAS GREAT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THIS.
WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S GOOD CONSENSUS AND YOU WANT OUR TIME TO BE SPENT ON GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO TAKE IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS.
IF NOT GIVE 'EM A REASONABLE TIME.
WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY SIGNIFICANT COST COME BACK TO YOU.
I DON'T REALLY ANTICIPATE THERE REALLY IS, BUT THERE COULD BE.
OBVIOUSLY JASON CAN, CAN WE GET A, CAN WE KNOW THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING FINAL? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
WELL I APPRECIATE THAT HAVING THE, THE GROUP GUIDANCE IS PRETTY, IT VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
WELL ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING IDENTIFIED AS PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTEES KNOW BEFORE YOU ANNOUNCE IT OR WELL, PEOPLE JUST KNOW WHEN YOU ANNOUNCE IT MIGHT NOT.
SO, UM, I, I HAVE VERIFIED WITH, WITH ALL THE, THE PEOPLE AS, AS I'VE GOTTEN.
UM, SO I'VE NOT ANNOUNCED IT TO THE OTHER PLANNING COMMISSIONERS OR THE CHAIR OF PLANNING COMMISSION OR ANYBODY.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE INDIVIDUALS EITHER BEING REAPPOINTED, THAT'S FINE.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE SHOCKED AND SAY, HEY, I CAN'T DO THAT
SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.
THEY ALL SEEM VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
CAN I, CAN I ASK ONE OTHER THING THAT'S COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC, UM, BUT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE, WERE YOU FINISHED? I DIDN'T MEAN TO KNOW.
UM, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE PARK BOARD, UM, BY VICKY AND IT WAS UM, TO SOMEHOW UM, SHE SAW A PLAQUE THAT HAD UM, AN ADDITIONAL PLAQUE UNDERNEATH AT A PARK.
SHE WAS IN NORTH CAROLINA AND IT HAD ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN IT AND THEN IT HAD A SPECIAL MENTION OF UM, AN HONOR OF AN ADDITIONAL PERSON.
AND IT OCCURRED TO HER, UM, THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HONOR KIRK BEDNAR FOR WHEN AT WENDY HILL PARK TO PUT A SPECIAL, UH, BECAUSE HE WAS SO INSTRUMENTAL IN THE WHOLE PROCESS FROM START TO FINISH.
I MEAN HE JUST
PLENTY OF PROJECTS WHERE YOU LEAVE RIGHT BEFORE PUT YOUR NAME GETS ON IT ANYWAY.
BUT IN THIS CASE HE WAS SO INSTRUMENTAL AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WANT MY NAME, I'LL BE GONE THEN, BUT I DON'T LET DAD RUNS THE MORE
BUT YEAH, IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO HAVE THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT THE SYSTEM WORKS.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I WOULD JUST PUTTING FORMER CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, OR SOMEONE WOULD SAY SPECIAL THINGS TOO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I'LL ASK IF SHE HAS A PICTURE.
SHE MIGHT HAVE A PICTURE OF IT.
'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND SO, UM, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST, I DIDN'T KNOW THE SYSTEM OF HOW TO WORK THAT IN SO.
I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
SO IT SOUNDS, WE HAVE CONSENSUS OF THE FIVE OF US WHO WANT TO DO THAT, WHICH IS ENOUGH CONSENSUS IF YOU NEED A VOTE ON A CONDITION MEETING.
YEAH, I DOUBT WE WILL GIVE THE LOW COST AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
I THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
YOU READY TO TALK ABOUT CITY HALL DOWNSTAIRS ART? YEP.
UM, OUR HISTORIC COURSE IS JUST TALKING ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE PROPERTIES WE'VE OWNED OVER THE YEARS.
AND I WILL ADMIT, I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT, WELL THOSE WALLS DOWNSTAIRS ARE SO EMPTY.
UH, WE'VE GOT SO MANY THINGS THAT WE OWN THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE, BUT I'M NOT ARTISTIC.
SO WE HAD BIRTH PEOPLE VOLUNTEER THAT ARE, UH, SHERRY HAMMOND, UM, AMY BROTHERS, NICOLE SMITH
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AND SUSAN TABOR.ALL FOUR OF 'EM ARE VERY ARTISTIC.
OF COURSE ASHLEY WILL ALWAYS BE INVOLVED 'CAUSE HE'S OUR CHAIRMAN.
UM, AND WE WENT DOWN, WE TOOK A TOUR OF THE BUILDING AND DOWNSTAIRS WE OWN SOME ARTWORK ALREADY.
THAT'S HISTORIC IN NATURE THAT WE HAVE FRAMED OVER THE YEARS.
UH, AND THEY THINK THERE MIGHT BE BEST FIGHT FOR ONE OF THOSE PIECES.
CHARLES FOUND THE ORIGINAL FLAG THAT THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD HAD WHEN IT WAS INCORPORATED FIRST CITY FLAG.
AND THEY'VE GOT IDEAS LIKE THAT WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T FEEL, AND OF COURSE THAT'S NOT THEIR DECISION.
EAT SOMETHING ENTIRELY UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT JUST GO INTO SOME ART DEALER AND SAY, PUT SOMETHING PRETTY ON THE WALLS IS NOT MEANINGFUL.
WE NEED SOMETHING THAT'S ATTRACTIVE BUT IS SPECIAL TO THE CITY AND HAS SOME SIGNIFICANCE TO OUR HISTORY.
AND OF COURSE BEING THE HISTORIC BOARD, WE WOULD THINK THAT WAY.
BUT THERE ARE SOME NICE THINGS.
THERE'S A TREE THAT WAS TAKEN DOWN FROM THE OLD GRANNY WHITE PIKE THAT THE, UM, WE'VE HAD, DO YOU USE THE WORD SCULPTED WHEN YOU'RE TALKING WOOD? WHAT'S THE WORD YOU USED? CARVE CARVING.
THEY, THEY SCULPT TOO WITH THAT CHANGES.
I MEAN A LOT WHILING AND ALL THAT.
THESE TWO PIECES AMY S BROUGHT IN WERE GORGEOUS AND WE GOT SOME OF THAT WOOD AND YOU KNOW, THINKING HOW TO USE THAT 'CAUSE THAT IS REALLY MEANINGFUL.
BUT ANYHOW, THEY WILL GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT IT, BRING SOME IDEAS IF, AND I TOLD 'EM, YOU ALL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION AND THEIR FEELINGS DON'T GET HURT.
SO, UH, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO ANY OF OUR HISTORIC BOARD MEETINGS, WE, WE SAY WHAT WE THINK AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE OPEN AND HONEST.
SO THEY'LL BE VERY, I THINK YOU'LL LIKE WHAT THEY DO, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU GRANT THEM PERMISSION, THEY'LL START MEETING AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA FILL IT UP.
IT'S GONNA BE TASTEFULLY DONE.
SO IF Y'ALL ARE ALL ON BOARD WITH THAT, GOOD WITH THAT, THE IDEAS COME TOGETHER, WE COME BACK HERE AND THEY CAN PRESENT THE IDEAS OR TAKE YOU DOWN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT HOWEVER YOU WANT DO IT.
WELL, A QUESTION I'D HAVE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE UM, THE PUBLIC AREAS OF CITY HALL OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE STAFF AREAS OF CITY HALL? BOTH OR BOTH? WE TALKING ABOUT THE LIKE THE PUBLIC, LIKE THE LOBBY OR UP, UP HERE IN THE HALLWAY, THE KIND OF PUBLIC FACING AREAS OF THE CITY HALL.
OR ARE WE TALKING MORE ABOUT LIKE THIS YEAR? RIGHT.
UNLESS Y'ALL REALLY LIKE WHAT WE DO,
WELL, AND THE REASON I ASK IS JUST I KNOW THAT OFFICE DESIGN AND DECOR MAKES A REAL IMPACT ON THE WORK AREA AND THIS WE UPDATED IN CITY HALL.
UM, SO FOR THE STAFF AREA, I WANNA MAKE SURE THE STAFF HAS, YOU KNOW, A STAY IN TERMS OF THEIR WORKSPACES.
BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC AREAS OH, OH YEAH.
BACK, BACK WHERE THE STAFF WORKS LOOKS MARVELOUS.
I MEAN THEY'VE GOT THAT LONG TIMELINE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT FROM THE FRONT DOOR TO THE BACK DOOR AS THE PUBLIC GOES THROUGH.
OH NO, THAT'D BE REALLY OVERSTEPPING I THINK.
BUT WHAT WASN'T SURE WE WE'RE NOT, UM, UH, WE, WE KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW THE ROOF
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT PAINTING ON THE WALL IN CITY, IN THE CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
'CAUSE YOU SAID, OH, IT'S BEEN HANGING IN CITY COMMISSION.
I WENT AND LOOKED, I WAS LIKE, OH, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT THAT WAS PART OF THE MURAL.
THAT MURAL WENT AROUND FOUR WALLS.
THE ONE TO THE LEFT OF THE SLOWLY OVER THE YEARS WITHOUT ANY, I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THIS, BUT IT WAS VERY SMART.
NATHAN BEDFORD FOREST USED TO BE ON THE WALLS DOWNSTAIRS.
THEN SOMEONE MOVED HIM UPSTAIRS AND HE STAYED THERE FOR MANY YEARS AND THEN HE DISAPPEARED AND NOBODY HAS ASKED WHERE HE IS.
SO WE ARE KIND PLEASED THAT THAT'S NOT ONE OF OUR PUBLIC ART WORKS RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, SO, AND PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, OWN STATUES AND THINGS AROUND TOWN, BUT HE'S NOT IN CITY HALL, WHICH IS NO IS NEVER GIRL ADDRESS A WRITTEN THROUGH THANK YOU.
AND I HAD IMAGINE THE HISTORIC BOARD YOU TO COLLABORATE WITH STAFF ON IT AND THAT DID
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REALLY NICE TO JUST FILLING IN THE LOBBY.AND THEN I, AND OF COURSE THE GOAL IS TO SPEND NO MONEY, I MEAN TO USE WHAT WE'VE GOT.
IF WE NEED A LITTLE, WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT WE MIGHT GET THE SMALL ENOUGH, WE'LL FUND IT OUT OF OUR HISTORIC FUND SO WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.
ONE LAST THING ABOUT THE MOORE'S LANE GREENWAY, I CHECKED AND WE DID GET THE REPORT WHILE I WAS OUT LAST WEEK.
UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY PROVIDED ARE FAIRLY SIMPLE AND IT THIS IS FROM THE PUBLIC ENTITY.
UM, SO IT WAS THE KINDA, THE LOSS CONTROL SPECIALIST CAME OUT AND UH, THEY RECOMMENDED THE SIGNAGE BE PLACED AT EACH ACCESS POINT WITH LANGUAGE INDICATING IT'S CITY OWNED PROPERTY, NOT FOR PUBLIC USE.
THE REMOVAL OF ALL STRUCTURES, BRIDGES, SIGNAGE, ET CETERA, NOT INSTALLED CONSTRUCTION AND AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD.
AND THEN THAT THE DAMAGED FENCING CREATING UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS POINTS BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE AREAS I THINK THAT'S ON THE WEST PROPERTY LINE WHERE THERE, THERE'S ACCESS POINTS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY ONES THAT WE PUT IN AND, AND THEN THAT WAS IT.
IT'S KIND OF THE, UH, PUBLIC USE BEING EVEN THAT NO WALKING BY THE NEIGHBORS.
I MEAN, BECAUSE SOME, SOME OF THE PEOPLE YEAH, THAT'S, I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SIGN AND TREAT THE PROPERTY ACCORDING TO ITS INTENDED USE.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE INSURING IT.
AND IF IT'S INTENDED FOR PUBLIC USE, THEN THAT PROBABLY TRIPS THAT HIGHER LEVEL OF, OF CARE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE FOR THE THINGS THAT ARE THERE.
BUT THEY'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE INSTALLED AND APPROVED BY OTHERS NEED TO BE REMOVED.
SO THEY'RE NOT REQUIRING US TO SET UP PATROLS AND SECURITY CAMERAS TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF IT.
THEY'RE JUST SAYING HAVE A SIGNAGE INDICATING THAT THIS ISN'T INTENDED FOR THAT.
AND IF YOU USE IT, YOU USE IT YOUR OWN RISK.
AND, AND THEY'RE NOT TELLING US TO, TO FENCE IT OFF AND THEY'RE NOT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP TO THE NEIGHBORS WHEN WE MET WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WERE PRIVATE PROPERTY, IF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER DIDN'T FENCE IT OFF THAT THEY COULD PROBABLY EXPECT EITHER SOME VAGRANCY TO SHOW UP, SOME UN UNAUTHORIZED USE USES SOME DUMPING.
WELL, WE OWNED IT AND WE DIDN'T SEE THE NEED TO FENCE IT ALL OFF AND KEEP PEOPLE OUT, BUT WE ALSO DIDN'T ANTICIPATE WHAT HAPPENED.
SO I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO FENCE IT, BUT I THINK PROBABLY PUTTING SOME SIGNAGE UP INDICATING THE COMMISSION'S INTENT THAT THIS IS NOT REALLY PUBLIC USE PROPERTY, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY NO TRESPASS.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A NICER WAY OF SAYING THIS IS NOT INTENDED FOR THE PUBLIC USAGE, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA TICKET YOU IF YOU'RE ON IT.
IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
BECAUSE IF IT SAID NO TRESPASS AND THAT'S IT.
BECAUSE YOUR INTENTS NOT TO ALLOW FOLKS NOT TO STEP ONTO IT.
BUT DON'T INSPECT ANY IMPROVEMENTS.
DON'T INSPECT, DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING.
A BATHROOM
WE'LL LOOK AT THAT PRETTY QUICKLY.
WELL, AS WE'RE BREAKING UP, UH, WE DO HAVE A MAYOR FOR THE DAY GOING ON, SO IF ANY COMMISS WOULD LIKE TO HANG AROUND AND GUEST ABSOLUTELY.
I WONDER WHAT THEY WERE DOING OVER THERE.