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BILL.[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing May 7, 2026 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the May 11th Agendas, the items below will be discussed: Veterans Monument Committee presentation of new design proposal Discussion of Zone R-2 setback distance and lot coverage This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR AGENDA REAL QUICK.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GOOD ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT AFTER THAT.
SO TO START WITH, UH, OUR BEER BOARD MEETING AND, UH, WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE ONE NEW BUSINESS ITEM, UH, OUR BCH BRENTWOOD BEVERAGE LICENSE COMPANY, LLC FOR ON-PREMISE BEER PERMIT FOR TOWN PLACE SUITES, UH, BRICKWOOD, THAT'S A NEW BUSINESS WHICH YOU'RE AWARE OF JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM US.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM? THESE ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND OBVIOUSLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE OWNERS OR MANAGER, WHOEVER'S REPRESENTING THEM, QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, SAFETY AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY'RE GONNA SERVE AND FACT SERVING UNDERAGE AND SO FORTH.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO OUR REGULAR BOARD OF COMMISSIONS MEETING.
THEN WE HAVE, I'M GONNA SKIP THROUGH THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE THAT MEETING THE, THESE GRAPHICS HERE REAL QUICK.
SO WE HAVE OATH OF OFFICE FOR, UH, UH, THREE FIREFIGHTERS.
WE HAVE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT BADGE PENDING CEREMONY FOR TWO, UH, AND ALSO WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, FIRE OFFICER RECOGNITION FOR THREE OF OUR OFFICER.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO A LOT OF CELEBRATING, WHICH IS A REALLY COOL THING TO BE ABLE TO DO.
WE HAVE OUR LEAD LEADERSHIP BRENTWOOD PRESENTATIONS.
UM, YEAH, THOSE ARE THE, THE KIND OF THE PRE ITEMS GOING INTO THE, UH, REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. SO, SHOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD TIME.
I KNOW THE ITEM CONSENT, AGENDA ITEM, UH, NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZES AN AGREEMENT WITH ESU FOR RECORDING SOFTWARE LICENSES AND ANNUAL MAINTENANCE.
THIS IS AS, AS MOST PEOPLE KNOW, IN OUR 9 1 1 CENTER, THEY RECORD EVERYTHING, UH, RADIO TRAFFIC, BASICALLY ALL IN, IN GOING OUTGOING TRAFFIC.
AND, UH, THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT DOES THAT.
IT'S, UH, THERE'S A, A SERVER AND SOFTWARE AND SO FORTH, AND IT'S READY TO BE UPGRADED.
UH, SO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT IS A LICENSE AND ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR FIVE YEARS.
UH, IN ADDITION WE HAVE THE ENTERPRISE SERVER FOR THE, WHICH IS A ONE TIME COST FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
SO THE FIRST YEAR COMBINED COST OF THE, UH, SOFTWARE AND SERVER IS $30,406 AND 30 CENTS.
AFTER THAT, IT'S THE REMAINING FOUR YEARS OF THE, UH, OF THE SOFTWARE, UM, FEE, WHICH INCLUDES MAINTENANCE AND LICENSING.
AND THAT'LL BE A $23,551 AND 3 CENTS FOR EACH OF THOSE FOUR YEARS.
SO, AGAIN, STRAIGHTFORWARD PLAN ITEM.
ANY QUESTIONS? IS THIS A CONTINUATION OF A DEAL? IS THIS A RENEWAL OF A DEAL OR, WE'VE USED APERTURE BEFORE.
UH, THIS WILL BE A, BASICALLY IT IS AN UPGRADE FOR THE LICENSE AND SO FORTH AND A NEW SERVER, BUT IT'S, IT'S AN ESSENCE LIKE A CONTINUATION, BUT IT'S NOT IN, IT IS NOT THE EXACT SAME.
I, I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
ALRIGHT, UH, CONSENT ITEM TWO, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT WITH, UH, KR BROTHERS ASSOCIATES FOR PAVEMENT MARKING, UH, SERVICES.
NOW WE WENT OUT TO BID FOR THE PAVEMENT MARKING, WHICH WE DO ANNUALLY.
UH, THEY WERE THE ONLY BIDDERS, APPARENTLY THERE MUST NOT BE A LOT OF COMPETITION IN THE AREA FOR PAVEMENT MARKING, BUT THIS IS A COMPANY WE'VE USED, UH, MANY TIMES BEFORE.
UH, THEY DO A TERRIFIC JOB, SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THEM.
THE, UH, THE PRICING IS BASED ON COMPETITIVE UNIT PRICES FOR A VARIETY OF, UH, TYPES OF MARKING.
SO IT'S A, A UNIT FOR EACH ONE, AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH AND THEY LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE, THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOES.
SO WE HAD THE BID OPENING ON APRIL 15TH, ONLY ONE BID AGAIN, UH, K BROTHERS, BUT, UH, THE, UH, DEPARTMENT'S VERY HAPPY WITH UNIT PRICES.
THE TOTAL AMOUNT ESTIMATED IS AROUND 125,000 FOR ALL OF OUR PAVEMENT PARKING SERVICES.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ITEM? ARE THOSE JUST AREAS OF LIKE EXISTING STREETS WHERE THE YEAH.
ALL OVER TABLE WE CROSSWALKS OR SOMETHING? I DON'T WANT TO, DON'T WANT TO JINX IT, BUT I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION.
I HAVEN'T HAD ANY CALLS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LION BEING DRAWN AND BEING SLUNG UP ON CARS AND RUINING PAINT JOBS OR ANY OF THAT.
WORKING OVER ANIMALS, DEAD ANIMALS GO RIGHT OVER.
IT'S BEEN A REMARKABLY PROBLEM PROCESS.
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, BUT YEAH, YOU PLAN FOR IT NOT TO CONSENT.
ITEM, UH, NUMBER THREE, IT'S A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING WHAT WE CALL SECOND REPORT OF EMERGENCY EXPENDITURES ARISING FROM OUR RECOVERY EFFORTS FROM OUR, UH, ICE STORM WINTER STORM FIRM.
WHAT THIS BASICALLY IS AS THE LAST AND PRIMARY, ONE OF THE PRIMARY TASKS FOR TETRATECH AND, UH, THE ESTIMATED COST, WHICH IS NOT TO EXCEED, IS $198,538 AND 30 CENTS.
WE DO BELIEVE IT'S, UH, WE EXPECT IT TO BE 100% REIMBURSABLE UNDER FEES AND GUIDELINES, BUT IN ESSENCE, WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T NEED TO DO THIS AS AN EMERGENCY EXPENDITURE, WHICH IS WHY IT'S HERE.
WE'RE FAR FASTER EMERGENCY, AND IT, UH, IT BASICALLY CONTRACTS.
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CONTRACT WITH THEM TO PUT THE WHOLE PACKAGE, ALL THE INFORMATION TO SUBMIT THE THEME, TO GET OUR REIMBURSEMENT AND ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS.REALLY, UH, REPRESENT THAT WHOLE PROCESS.
AND ON BEHALF THAT'S WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT.
THEY HELPED US EARLY ON AS WE LOOKED AT THE INITIAL, UH, APPROACH THAT WE WERE GONNA TAKE, AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE WERE PICKING UP, WE'RE PICKING UP THE RIGHT PLA THE RIGHT DEBRIS FROM THE RIGHT LOCATIONS.
ALL THE THINGS YOU NEED TO DO TO QUALIFY FOR THE TEAM MEMBERS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? SO IS THIS FOR WORK THEY'VE ALREADY DONE OR THIS IS FOR THEM TO GENERATE THE FINAL REPORT? THIS IS REALLY FOR THE FINAL, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE THAT AS WE LEAD UP TO IT, BECAUSE WE, WE COLLECT INFORMATION THROUGHOUT.
THIS IS REALLY THE, THE BULK OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS STILL YET TO COME.
IT'S PULLING ALL OF THE INVOICES AND TIME SHEETS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE VEHICLE ASSIGNMENTS FOR WHO WAS WORKING WHERE AND WHAT ALL THAT'S PUT TOGETHER TO FEMA SATISFACTION.
SO THIS IS THE BULK OF THE WORK THAT THEY'LL DO TOWARD THE FEMA GRANT.
SO THE 198,000 IS NEW MONEY OR SOME THAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID THE, THE AMOUNT? NO, WE HAVEN'T PAID IT.
WE, I MEAN WE PAID THEM SOME, CORRECT? CORRECT.
YEAH, WE HAD THE $12,000, UM, TASK ORDER.
UM, AND THEN, SO THIS IS A CHANGE ORDER TO THAT TO BRING BACK IN.
NOW THAT WE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF THE SCOPE AND SIZE OF EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO.
THIS IS THE BULK, RIGHT? YEAH.
THIS WILL BE OUR, SHOULD BE OUR LAST PHASE WITH THAT.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY AFTER THIS, IT'S MONEY COMING BACK IN.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT TREMENDOUSLY DIFFERENT THAN OUR EXPECTED AMOUNT FOR THIS.
I KNOW WE'VE TRIED TO DO SOME ESTIMATES COMING INTO IT.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT, THIS PIECE IS A LITTLE HARDER TO ESTIMATE, BUT YEAH, I THINK IN TOTAL WITH THE SERVICES, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING WHERE WE THOUGHT, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A HIGHER, HAD A HIGHER VOLUME OF, UH, MUCH HIGHER OF DEBRIS.
SO THAT, THAT, BUT FROM A UNIT RATE PERSPECTIVE, YEAH.
SO THE TOTAL, IF YOU SEE ON THAT LAST PAGE, $6.3 MILLION IS NOT QUITE THE LAST PAGE, BUT IN THE LITTLE CHART THAT WE'VE GOT, 6.3 MILLION IS THE TOTAL WE'RE AT SO FAR, WE'RE EXPECTING THAT SHOULD BE LAST.
YOU WOULD BE COMPLETELY FINISHED WITH THIS.
LET'S TRY NOT TO HAVE A DISASTER NEXT YEAR.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEM FOUR, APPROVAL PURCHASE WINDOWS SERVER, UH, 2025 DATA CENTER LICENSES.
AND THIS IS THE, UH, UPGRADE, UH, LICENSE FOR THE, UH, CITY'S BLADE SERVER CITY HALL, UH, TO THE MS. WINDOWS 2025 VERSION.
AGAIN, A PLANNED ITEM, UH, IT'S FROM THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
UH, COST IS, UH, $35,591 AND 4 CENTS AND PURCHASED UNDER THE STATE OF TENNESSEE, UH, SOFTWARE CONTRACT.
SO AGAIN, JUST A PLANNED ITEM FOR THAT UPGRADE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM? OKAY.
UH, WE HAVE FOR, UH, NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE, IT'S A RESOLUTION THAT CALLS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION OF TERRITORY, UH, BY OWNER CONSENT AND THE PLAINTIFF SERVICES FOR THAT TERRITORY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF HILLSBOROUGH ROAD, SOUTH OF GOLD HICKORY BOULEVARD.
I'LL THROW UP A GRAPHIC THERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE OF THE, OF THE YELLOW LINE ON THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE OLD HICKORY, UH, I'M SORRY, IS IS HILLSBOROUGH ROAD, THE LINE ACROSS THE TOP? THE YELLOW LINE IS OLD HICKORY.
SO THAT'S, UH, YOU CAN, OR CITY LIMITS ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE RIGHT NOW OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE, OF THE ROAD SINCE 4 31.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE RED OUTLINE IS SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, AND THAT, UH, UM, IT'S, AS YOU CAN TELL TODAY, IT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY YOU CAN'T SEE.
AND WE'LL, I'LL SHOW YOU SOME OTHER GRAPHICS, BUT THERE'S A STREAM THROUGH THERE AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF FLOOD PLAIN THEY HAVE TO WORK AROUND.
UH, SO WE'LL KIND OF GET INTO SOME DETAIL HERE.
UH, IT DOESN'T HELP YOU A WHOLE LOT, BUT IT'S A TOP SHOWS THE TOPOGRAPHY IN THERE A LITTLE BIT.
SO THIS IS REQUESTED BY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CURRENT OWNERS.
SO IT'S CONSIDERED A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.
UH, AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, IT'S THE OWNERS OF, OF THE HILLSBOROUGH ROAD PARTNERSHIP.
UH, SO AT, AT THIS STAGE, THE, UH, DIRECTION IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH THE ANNEXATION IS TO PREPARE A REQUIRED PLAN OF SERVICES AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE PLAN OF SERVICES.
THOSE SERVICES WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES, PARKS, LIBRARY, ET CETERA.
UM, THEY WOULD NOT INCLUDE WATER AND SEWER.
WATER AND SEWER WILL BE PROVIDED BY METRO WATER SERVICES.
SO THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT ON OUR WATER SEWER SYSTEM FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
UM, STAFF IN THE SUBSEQUENT REZONING WOULD REQUEST THAT THE AREA WILL REQUEST THAT THE AREA IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OWNER BE ASSIGNED THE OPEN SPACE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT AND SUBURBAN, UH, RESIDENTIAL R TWO ZONING DISTRICT.
AND WE'LL SHOW YOU, UH, A GRAPHIC THAT SORT OF SHOWS HOW THAT SHAKES OUT.
IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED MGA ONE BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
THAT'S BASICALLY A HOLDING ZONE FOR UNDEVELOPED OR, UH, LOW DENSITY THAT DEVELOPED,
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ITS READY TO BE, UH, FULLY DEVELOPED.UM, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT DO THEY MEAN BY LOW DENSITY IN METRI? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ACTUAL DENSITY IS, BUT WHEN I LOOKED THAT UP, IT, THEY TALKED ABOUT LIKE IF THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR MAYBE IT'S A RURAL CHARACTER, UH, BUT I DON'T THINK WHEN THEY LOOK AT THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IT'S PROPERTY THAT THEY ANTICIPATE WILL BE DEVELOPED THAT REALLY HASN'T HAD ACTIVITY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND IT'S SETTING THERE.
SO I WOULDN'T EXPECT THERE WOULD BE ANY SIGNIFICANT RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IN, IN THAT TYPE OF ZONING FOR THEM.
UH, BUT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THEIR LIMIT IS FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S HOW THEY ZONED THIS BECAUSE IT IS TOTALLY UNDEVELOPED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
WELL, THAT'S THE UPSIDE OF OUR ANNEX.
SEE THIS? WELL, UH, IT, YEAH, IT DEPENDS HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
UH, ONE IS, IS AGAIN, IT DOESN'T PUT BURDEN ON OUR UTILITY SYSTEMS, SO THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING.
UH, NOT, NOT THAT WE COULDN'T SERVE IF WE HAD TO, THAT'S NOT REALLY IN QUESTION.
UH, BUT THE, THE UTILITY SERVICES BASED ON THEIR LO GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION MORE THAN ANYTHING FOR, FROM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, IT'S SIMPLY IT'S INSIDE OUR URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY.
SO IT'S AN ANTICIPATION OF PROPERTY TO BE ANNEXED AND DEVELOPED.
WHEN IT'S READY, IT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AT OS PRIMARILY OSRD WITH 25 LOTS.
THE ONLY R TWO IS THERE'S A LARGER LOT FOR A SINGLE HOME.
UH, SO IT'S DEVELOPING THE WAY THAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY, UH, HAVE IT DEVELOP.
UH, SO IT JUST KIND OF FITS THE SCHEME OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN BRENTWOOD RIGHT NOW.
AND JASON, CAN YOU FLIP BACK A, A COUPLE SLIDES TO THE, UH, THE SATELLITE VIEW? SO LOOKING AT THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE OUR PUMP STATION'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT AND OUR PUMP STATION AND OUR EQUALIZATION TANK ARE CURRENTLY IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.
I KNOW A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE WENT AND WE HAD PART OF THE, UM, THE SERVICE CENTER THAT WAS NOT IN THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD.
WE TOOK SOME ACTION TO BRING IT INTO THE CITY.
WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS LAND IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT OR CONSIDERING THE LAND IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PUMP STATION, SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT WE BRING THE PUMP STATION INTO THE CITY.
YEAH, WE WILL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT ARE OR NOT, BUT TODD, DO WE HAVE TO DO IT SEQUENTIALLY AFTER THIS ANNEXES THEN WE BRING FORWARD AN APPLICATION FOR OURSELVES? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS ALREADY COMING FORWARD, BUT I GUESS IT HELPS IF SAYS TAKE THAT WOULD ESTABLISH CONTINUOUSNESS WRITE DOWN YEAH, IT'S THE DATED TO, UM, THE MGA ONE.
IS THAT THE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING TODD.
IS THAT WHAT THE, A LOT OF THE AREA ALONG SAM DONALD AND, UH, SUNSET WERE, THAT BECAME ROSEBROOK AND ALL THAT WHERE I WOULD ASSUME SO.
BUT ONE ALLOWS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN THE COUNTY.
SO THAT, THAT IS ONE BENEFIT OF IT COMING INTO THE CITY, UH, IN THE COUNTY CURRENTLY, THEY COULD DO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AS PART, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD HAVE A HOUSE AND THEN A SEPARATE UNIT.
KIND OF LIKE, WE DON'T ALLOW THAT, BUT, AND TODD, IF, IF THAT COUNTY COULD CHANGE THE ZONING IN RRP, SO YES, THEY COULD.
AND YOU COULD SEE HIGHER DENSITY, RIGHT AT YOUR, SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO ANNEX, THERE'S ONLY SEVEN ACRES IN DAVIDSON COUNTY.
AND SO BEFORE WE WOULD ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE PLAN, 'CAUSE THIS IS JUST FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING BACK, WE WOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT DENSITY, THE SEVEN ACRES AND DAVIDS.
NOW MY THOUGHT WAS THEY WOULD KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE SAME TIGHT, BUT, BUT IF THEY CAME BACK WITH SOMETHING LIKE REALLY DENSE, LIKE WE'RE SEEING GOING ON IN GREEN HILLS AND PLACES LIKE THAT IN NASHVILLE, MAYBE IT WORKS.
I'M NOT THE COUNTY, THE STATE, COUNTY, COUNTY, RIGHT.
HERE'S A DIFFERENT LOOK AT IT AND IT SHOWS YOU THE OSRD, WHICH IS BASICALLY ALL OF THE DEVELOPED AREA IN ADDITION TO THE GREEN SPACE.
AND THEN THE R TWO IS WHAT WE CALL RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SHOWN AS A RESERVE PARCEL FOR WHAT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE A SINGLE HOME DEVELOPMENT AT SOME POINT ONCE THE PROPER ACCESS HAS BEEN, UH, CREATED.
SO THIS IS PRIMARILY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S SOME FLOOD PLAINS, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME DIRT WORK FOR SOME OF THESE LOTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
BUT YOU, WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE MORE THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE BY A LONG SHOT HERE, UH, COMPARED TO EVEN TYPICAL BRENTWOOD, A SUBDIVISION, AND THIS IS THIS GRAY AREA OVER HERE IS WHAT WE CALL THE RESERVE PARCEL, WHICH WILL HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS ONCE IT HAS PROPER ACCESS, IT CAN BE DEVELOPED.
UH, BUT IT'LL HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED, UH, BEFORE THAT WILL HAPPEN.
UH, AND SO THAT'S THE R TWO SIDE, BUT REALLY ALL THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT ONE LOT IS, UH, IN THE OSRD SIDE.
AND SO FROM AN ACREAGE PERSPECTIVE, UH, AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT 77, UH, ACRES IN TOTAL.
THE, UH, THE AVERAGE OSRD LOT SIZE IS ABOUT, IS JUST OVER 30,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THEY'RE, AGAIN, 26 TOTAL LOTS,
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25 IN OSRD AND ONE IN THE IS THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE LARGE R TWO LOT.UH, THE LARGER R TWO LOTS, ABOUT 23, ALMOST 24 ACRES.
THE, UH, AREA PROPOSED AS O SRD IS ABOUT 53 ACRES.
SO THAT MEANS THE OPEN SPACE IS, UH, UH, PROVIDED IS, UH, 32, UH, ACRES.
AND THERE'S EXCESS OPEN SPACE AT ABOUT 24.41.
WHEN YOU COMPARE, I ACTUALLY, WHAT I SHOULD SAY IS THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE IS ABOUT 32 ACRES.
AND SO THE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE IS AN ADDITIONAL 24.4 ACRES.
SO THIS HAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE OPEN SPACE THAN WHAT YOU WOULD EVEN TYPICALLY SEE BASED ON THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING.
AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT'S BECAUSE OF FLOOD PLAIN, AND I THINK I'VE GOT A GOOD GRAPHIC THERE.
THIS IS JUST AN, A CLOSER LOOK AT THE OSRD WITH THE CONCEPT, UH, LAYOUT.
SPACE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST FOR THE OSRD AREA, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S, WELL, YES.
THE, THE THE TOTAL OPEN SPACE, YES.
IT'D BE THE OSRD AND YEAH, YEAH.
AND SO IT GIVES US ABOUT 24 ACRES MORE THAN WE WOULD TYPICALLY, UH, BE, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE.
SOMETHING I'D WANT TO ASK JUST WHILE LOOKING AT THE OSRD RIGHT THERE, AND I'M, UH, I'M NOT AFFILIATED WITH HARLAND CONSERVANCY IN ANY WAY, BUT I KNOW RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT FLOODPLAIN RIGHT THERE ON THE RIVER, UM, THE IDEA OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, 25 SOME ODD ACRES RIGHT ON THE HARPETH RIVER PRESERVED AS OPEN SPACE, I THINK IS GREAT.
BUT I WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER OR SHOULD WE CONSIDER THAT O-S-R-D-S-R OF SOME SORT TO TRY TO PROTECT THAT, THAT OPEN SPACE IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL AREA RIGHT? ON THE RIVER.
AND THEN I GUESS, I GUESS YOU SEE, YOU GUYS MIGHT KNOW BETTER FROM PLAN CONDITION, DO THE, DO THE SPECIAL RESTRICTIONS ON SOME OF THE OSRD AREAS.
WHERE IS IT? IS IT O-S-R-D-S-R-O-S-R-D-I? NO, SO THE, THE IP IS INNOVATIVE EASEMENT.
WHAT'S THAT? WE HAVE SCENIC EASEMENTS THAT CAN BE CREATED.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE FOR WOODED OPEN SPACE TRACKS.
UM, WHICH WE REQUIRE FOR OPEN SPACE AREAS THAT ARE WOODED TO HELP PROTECT THOSE.
UM, HERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS IS WOODED BY THE RIVER AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD APPLY.
HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE TO REMEMBER ANYTHING THAT THEY DO WITHIN THE COMMON OPEN SPACE WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
SO IN FACT, IT IS KIND OF PROTECTED AND MOST OF THAT LOWER PORTION IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
WELL, IT'S CONTROL FLOOD PLAN.
SO THEY WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO PUT A STRUCTURE OR ANY TYPE OF ANYTHING THAT'S SO CORRECT.
SO LET ME, LET ME, BASED ON THE FLOOD PLAIN CONVERSATION, SEE, THERE YOU GO.
THE, THE LOT YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY SEEING IT STARTS HERE.
THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT 'CAUSE IT GETS COVERED UP, BUT IT COMES DOWN, HERE'S THE STREAM AREA.
YOU CAN FOLLOW THE PATH RIGHT THROUGH THERE.
SO THERE'S QUITE A LOT OF FLOODPLAIN IN HERE.
UH, THIS FLOODWAY IN THE BLUE FLOODPLAIN, UH, 100 YEAR AND THEN THE LITTLE YELLOWS OF 500 YEAR.
SO THAT'S WHY IT REALLY KIND OF LIMITS THE DEVELOPMENT PRIMARILY RIGHT UP IN THIS AREA AND CREATES SOME DIRT WORK UP HERE.
UH, AND THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE, THE MAIN REASONS THAT YOU DON'T SEE, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED.
UH, BUT THAT'S A GOOD THING FROM EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST HONORING THE, THE NATURAL LAYOUT AND THE STREAM AND SO FORTH.
AND SO IT GIVES YOU A LOT MORE GREEN SPACE IN THE CITY IN THAT AREA.
AND IN ESSENCE, AS, AS TODD MENTIONED, IT'S PROTECTED BY DEFAULT BECAUSE TO HAVE IT TO HAVE ANY CHANGE, IT'S GONNA GO BACK THROUGH THE CITY ANYWAY.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO PROTECT THAT TREE CANOPY THAT'S IN THAT AREA, THAT 25 ACRES THAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD ON? THAT'S JUST GONNA BE CLEAR CUT.
UH, TODD, CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW WE ADDRESS THE TREES CURRENTLY? UM, SO I'M SORRY.
THE QUESTION WAS HOW DO WE PROTECT THE TREES DEVELOP AREA? WELL, THE AREAS WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP IS VERY WOODED.
YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY PROTECTIONS IN TERMS OF EXISTING TREES OR, I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO A LOT OF COMPENSATE, CUT FILL TO MAKE THE, TO GET THE PROPOSED LOTS OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE MANY OF THE TREES, UM, BEING SAVED EXCEPT FOR THE ONES MAYBE ALONG THE RIVER IN THE FLOODWAY RIGHT HERE.
SO THE BLUE AREA, THOSE TREES WOULD, I BELIEVE, BE PRESERVED THE GOLD.
MOST OF THOSE TREES ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT WITH THE CUT FILL AND THE DEVELOPMENT.
WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH A PLAN.
THEY'LL HAVE TREE PLANTINGS PER LOT AS PART OF THE PLAN, CORRECT? YEAH.
WE, WE REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 25 CALIBER INCHES PER ACRE FOR EACH LOT.
AND WE MAKE SURE THOSE ARE PUT IN PLACE BEFORE THEY GET A CO FOR EACH HOUSE.
SO, SO IT MAY BE 10 OR 20 YEARS WE WILL HAVE NATIVE SPECIES THERE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT LAND, BUT I'VE NOT WALKED THAT LAND THAT COULD BE FILLED WITH MODOC AND HACKBERRY BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT
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HAPPENED A LOT OF TIMES.THE CLEAR CUT FOR PASTURES TO FEED GALS AND HORSES FOR DECADES OR CENTURIES.
AND THEN WHAT GREW BACK WAS WHAT COULD GROW THE FASTEST AND KIND OF WAS THE MOST COMPETITIVE.
AND HACKBERRYS AND BOTOX TEND TO BE TWO OF YOUR, YOUR BIG ONES THAT YOU FIND I HAVE FOUND IN AREAS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE CLOSE TO A RIVER, WHATEVER, I DON'T KNOW, YOU'D HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND DO A TREE SURVEY, BUT I DON'T IMAGINE THERE'S HUNDREDS OF MAPLES AND OAKS AND
REMEMBER HOW WILDWOOD FLOOD IS SO BADLY? HOW IS BUILDING THERE GOING TO AFFECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? WELL, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I WAS ASKING ABOUT KEEPING THAT FLOOD FLOOD.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BUILDING THE FLOOD LANE, I, WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE FLOOD PLANE AND ALL WAY ARE DIFFERENT, BUT THEY'RE AWFULLY CLOSE TO ME IN MY THINKING.
ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THE ACTUAL FLOODPLAIN, THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN WOULD HAVE TO HAVE COMPENSATORY STORAGE.
BUT TODD, I'M ASSUMING, AND AND YOU GUYS COULD SPEAK TO IT, THAT THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY DEVELOPING IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA ELEVATE OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN.
SO THERE'S A COMPENSATORY ASPECT.
SO, SO THE, THE WATER CAPACITY IN ESSENCE IN THERE DOESN'T CHANGE BECAUSE CORRECT.
THAT'S THE WAY THE FLOOD, UH, FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ORDINANCES REQUIRED THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T REALLY CHANGE THAT TO ANY DEGREE.
THIS WILL, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON WILDWOOD.
AND DEREK CAN SPEAK TO THIS, IS, I WANT THAT IN YOUR BLOOD WRITTEN DOWN
I ASSUME THE SUBDIVISION WILL HAVE DETENTION.
AND SO IF YOU REMEMBER, SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS GOING ON HERE.
ONE IS JUST THE CHANGE IN THE LAND IN, IN, IN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA.
THE OTHER IS JUST LIKE WITH ANY SUBDIVISION, THEN THE DRAINAGE FOR THE SUBDIVISION IS GONNA BE DETAINED, HELD.
SO THAT, AND IT'S RELEASED VERY SLOWLY 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT IT ALL TO BE RELEASED AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THEN YOU HAVE 10 OR 20 DEVELOPMENTS AND THEY ALL FLOOD AN AREA.
SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE LIMITS OF WHAT YOU CAN DO UNDER A FLOODPLAIN, UH, ORDINANCE AND THE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS.
I KNOW IT'S JUST JASON, IF I MIGHT INTERJECT HERE, DEALING WITH THAT AND THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE ARE STILL PUTTING THEIR HOUSES UP ON STILTS.
YOU KNOW, I, BUT THERE SOMETHING, YES.
THIS DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL LETTER OF MAP REVISION, UH, ACCOMPANIED BY HYDRAULIC STUDIES SHOWING THAT THERE'S NO IMPACT TO NO ADVERSE IMPACT TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
AND ISN'T THAT AN, AN UPDATE WE MADE TO OUR CODE JUST A COUPLE YEARS AGO TO YES.
TO TAKE A LOOK, NOT JUST AT THE IMPACT OF THE IMMEDIATE SPOT, BUT ALSO UPSTREAM IMPACT THAT, UM, YES.
UH, BASICALLY SO IT'S INCLUDED IN THAT.
SO IF ANYTHING, THIS WOULD KEEP IT IN THAT ZERO, IF NOT IMPROVED IT, BUT POSSIBLY AS THEY DO THE SITE WORK, THEY COULD POSSIBLY IMPROVE THE, THE DETENTION.
IT SEEMS LIKE KNOWING THIS ISN'T THE UGB AND IT'S A, A VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH VERY LOW DENSITY IT, AND ALSO KEEPS US FROM HAVING SOMETHING ELSE STRANGE DEVELOP RIGHT THERE STILL IN OUR UGB.
IT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GOOD YEAH, YOU, YOU REALLY GET A LOW DENSITY THERE, WHICH IS GOOD.
THIS, THIS, UH, SHOWS THE OUTER PERIMETER OF THE GREEN IS YOUR URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHERE IT'S AT WITHIN THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY.
SO IT'S ON THE NORTHWEST SORT OF BOUNDARY RIGHT IN HERE, BUT THEN THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE JUST, JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF HAVE THAT AS A WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
COMMISSIONER DUNN, YOU, YOU HAD ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE TO THE CITY TO ANNEX IT? AND OF COURSE WE ARRIVED AT HAVING THE CITY REGULATE WITH OUR ZONING CODE.
WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS PREFERRED, BUT IF IT WERE TO DEVELOP IN THE COUNTY, WE DON'T GET ANY ADD WARRANT PROPERTY TAXES, THEY'LL STILL BE DRIVING OUR ROADS AND USING OUR PARTS.
WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING ANY REVENUE FROM IT.
IT WOULD HAVE A VERY SIMILAR IMPACT, BUT NO REVENUE, PERHAPS IN A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY.
I MEAN, WE ALWAYS NEED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS OUT LOUD, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM
SO HERE'S KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS.
UH, MONDAY, MAY 11TH, OBVIOUSLY YOUR UPCOMING MEETING, YOU WOULD SCHEDULED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PLAN OF SERVICES AND ANNEXATION.
AND THEN ON JUNE 1ST, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW, UH, AND RECOMMENDATION, UH, REVIEW PLANNING, COMMISSION REVIEW.
AND THEY PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION OF THE PROPOSED PLAN OF SERVICES IN THE ANNEXATION.
COMES BACK TO YOU FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ON JUNE 22ND.
AND ON JULY 13TH, YOU HAVE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE OF SIGNING THE, UH, ZONING TO PROPERTY ON JULY 30TH, A REQUIRED COMMUNITY MEETING.
UM, AUGUST IS TENTATIVE RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS THE, THE LOCATION, BUT RIGHT NOW IT SHOWS HERE, UH, MONDAY, AUGUST 3RD, UH, PLANNING, COMMISSION REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION OF THE ORDINANCE TO THE ASSIGNED ZONING TO THE PROPERTY ON AUGUST 10TH.
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UH, IT COMES BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO YOU ON THE ORDINANCE ASSIGNING THE ZONING ON AUGUST 24TH.UH, YOU WOULD REVIEW, UH, HAVE YOUR REVIEW OF THE FINAL RESOLUTION, ANNEXING THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY, AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE SECOND FINAL READING ON THE ZONING.
SO THERE ARE MANY STEPS ALONG THE WAY.
SO A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY, UH, ONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO BE AWARE AND BE INVOLVED TO, TO, TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE, IS THAT TWO SEPARATE ORDINANCE OR TWO SEPARATE ITEMS, THEN ONE FOR THE ANNEXATION AND THEN ONE FOR SIGNING.
IT'S A RESOLUTION FOR THE ANNEXATION AND THE, AND THE, UH, ORDINANCE FOR THE ZONING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? YOU'LL GET TO, OF COURSE, SEE THIS ALONG THE WAY AND, AND, UH, HAVE THAT DETAILED.
AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, IT LOOKS LIKE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO ASK 'EM ALONG THE WAY.
PLUS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE, WHERE WE, UH, RESIDE IN OUR OFFICES.
SO PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU DO HAVE ANY.
UH, I AM NUMBER TWO IN A NEW BUSINESS IS AN ETHICS COMPLAINT FILED BY VEZ ALLEGING VIOLATION OF BRENTWOOD CODE ORDINANCE SECTION TWO DASH 2 3 3 B OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY, KRISTEN CORN.
AND YOU HAVE THE FULL COMPLAINT IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, YOU HAVE, UH, KRISTEN'S RESPONSE TO THAT.
BASICALLY HOW THIS WORKS, I'LL SUMMARIZE FOR YOU HERE, IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT, UH, AND IF IT'S, UM, THIS CASE, UH, IN THIS CASE, LET ME, LET ME HIT SECTION TWO DASH 2 3 3 B JUST REAL QUICK.
BASICALLY, IT SAYS, UH, AN EMPLOYER OFFICIAL MAY NOT USE OR ATTEMPT TO USE THEIR POSITION TO SECURE PRIVILEGE FOR THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.
THAT'S IMPORTANT AS YOU LOOK AT THE COMPLAINT FURTHER.
UM, THE SECOND SECTION THAT'S IMPORTANT IS SECTION TWO DASH 2 3 4 C3 OF YOUR CODE.
BASICALLY, THIS SAYS, WHEN A COMPLAINT'S FILED AGAINST, UH, UH, BASICALLY ANYONE OTHER THAN YOU, IT GOES BACK TO YOU.
BUT IT DOES ALLOW, IN THIS CASE, IF IT'S, UH, THAT, UH, I CAN GATHER INFORMATION PRESENT PERTINENT FACTS TO, UH, TO YOU, UH, IN, IN YOUR DETERMINATION.
AND MY REPORT OF THAT IS TOWARDS THE BACK OF THIS PACKET ITEM.
AND SO I TRY TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I BELIEVE ARE RELEVANT ON POINT FACTS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS COMPLAINT THAT THE COMPLAINT HONESTLY ISN'T EVEN ABOUT MS. CORN.
IT'S ABOUT ANOTHER EMPLOYEE AND HER INVOLVEMENT AS CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE CITY, WHICH I BELIEVE SHE DID WELL, UH, BUT, BUT YET IS TARGETED TOWARDS HER.
AND SO YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS UNDER THE, UH, THE CODE.
AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IS YOU'LL END UP, UH, MAKING A MOTION, UH, WHEN YOU GET THROUGH THIS IN YOUR REGULAR MEETING.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE YOU'RE GONNA START WITH A MOTION IN A SECOND TO GET THE ITEM STARTED.
KEEP THAT IN MIND, AND THEN YOU CAN DEFER TO ME IF YOU'D LIKE, AND I CAN SUMMARIZE WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE ME TO.
BUT YOUR MOTION CHOICES ARE BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE ENTIRE MEMBERSHIP, UH, TO DETERMINE ONE, IF THE COMPLAINT IS CREDIBLE AND THAT A VIOLATION OF THE ARTICLE HAS OCCURRED, OR TWO, THAT THE COMPLAINT IS NOT CREDIBLE OR DOES NOT HAVE MERIT, OR THREE, THAT THE COMPLAINT HAS SUFFICIENT WORD MERIT SIMPLY TO WARRANT FURTHER INVESTIGATION.
IN THAT CASE, YOU'D LOOK AT A THIRD PARTY TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE.
SO THOSE ARE YOUR THREE OPTIONS, AND WE'D EXPECT YOU TO HAVE A, A MOTION, AND IT DOES TAKE A MAJORITY OF THE FULL MEMBERSHIP, UH, WHEN YOU ADDRESS THAT ITEM.
AND AGAIN, I'LL, UH, YOU HAVE, YOU'LL HAVE, YOU HAVE PLENTY OF INFORMATION IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT HERE TO LOOK AT.
UM, BUT, UH, I, WHAT I, WHAT I WILL JUST SAY, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THIS HERE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO LOOK THROUGH IT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN THE MEETING, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS, IS THAT IT'S, UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY, WELL, IT'S, IT'S NOT TYPICALLY NORMAL TO SEE A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS AN ORGANIZATION DOING THE JOB AS THE ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE ORGANIZATION THAT WAY, RIGHT? AND, AND IN THIS CASE, THERE'S SOME CONCERNS THE PERSON HAD.
IT HAS TO DO WITH DRAINAGE, WHICH IS INTERESTING ON A LOT THAT DEVELOPED NEXT TO THEM.
UH, THEY WEREN'T HAPPY WITH WHAT HAPPENED THERE, AND IT KIND OF ALL CAME BACK AND THEY DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY CARE FOR, UH, KRISTEN REPRESENTING THE CITY'S INTEREST, WHICH IS WHAT SHE'S HIRED TO DO.
ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE UNETHICAL.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S PRETTY WELL, UH, IN, IN MY REPORT.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY, LET ME KNOW.
SO ONE AND ONLY OTHER TIME WE EVER HAVE AN ETHICS COMPLAINT LAST YEAR, THE PERSON LODGING IT CAME AND NO, THE PERSON LODGING IT.
HAS SOMEONE ELSE COME AND READ IT FOR THEM? IS THERE GONNA BE A PERSON HERE READING THIS? OR HOW IS THIS GONNA BE PRESENTED TO US? IS IT JUST GONNA BE READ FROM THE AGENDA PAGE AND THEN WE MOVE? DO WE KNOW? WELL, I WOULD SAY, AND, AND ABSENT ANYTHING THAT LIMITS HOW THAT'S DONE, UH, BE UP TO YOU, UH, AND PERHAPS, UH, UH, MAYOR IN HOW HE WANTS TO CONDUCT IT.
MY ANTICIPATION, AT LEAST AS A STARTING POINT WOULD BE THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE AGENDA ITEM, UH, AS WE DO WITHIN ANY AGENDA ITEM, UH, SOMEONE WOULD NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AND THERE'D BE A SECOND
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TO GET INTO IT, UH, FROM A PROCEDURAL PERSPECTIVE.SO YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE MOTION IS.
UH, SO IF AFTER DISCUSSION LATER, IF YOU DECIDE TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THAT'S UP TO YOU.
BUT AFTER THE MOTION AND THE SECOND, THEN IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN GENERALLY COVER, UH, I WON'T GO THROUGH THE DETAIL, IT COULD TAKE US ALL NIGHT.
BUT I, I CAN GENERALLY COVER WHAT I BELIEVE ARE THE MAIN POINTS THAT I, AND SUMMARIZE WHAT I HAVE IN MY FINDINGS FOR YOU.
ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE, UH, IT'S A QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO ALLOW THIRD PARTY TO SPEAK IN THIS.
THAT'S A I I'LL LOOK AND FIND OUT FOR YOU TO BE SURE.
SO YOU NO LONGER CURIOUS HOW IS THIS MY IMPRESS MY, MY IMPRESSION? I GUESS CORRECT ME IF I'M, I'M WRONG.
WE CANNOT ADVISE YOU AT ALL ON THIS.
ADVISE ME ON THE FLOW BECAUSE CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE THE BEGINNING OF THE COMMISSION MEETING.
SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT, YEAH, THEY DO CERTAINLY MAKE COMMENTS TO GET INTO MEETINGS.
COMMENTS, WHEN NEW BUSINESS NUMBER TWO COMES UP, I'LL INTRODUCE THE SUBJECT, YOU KNOW, ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE A, A QUICK BRIEFING AND THEN ASK, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A MOTION.
AND AT THAT POINT IT SEEMS LIKE THE MOTIONS ONE OF THREE THINGS.
EITHER SOMEONE WOULD MAKE A, A MOTION THAT THE COMPLAINT IS CREDIBLE TO OPEN THE DISCUSSION, THEY MAKE A MOTION THAT THE COMPLAINT IS NOT CREDIBLE, UM, AND DOESN'T HAVE MERIT, WHICH WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.
OR THEY COULD MAKE A MOTION THAT IT WARRANTS FURTHER INVESTIGATION.
SO WE'D HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE THREE MOTIONS AND SECOND AT THAT POINT, AND THEN OPEN UP DISCUSSION AND TAKE A VOTE.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? I WOULD THINK WE WOULD DO A MOTION AND A SECOND TO GET THE ITEM STARTED.
BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT IS, IS WE'D HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE THREE MOTIONS.
THOSE ARE THE THREE CHOICES YOU, YOU WOULD EITHER HAVE TO, TO GET IT STARTED.
SOMEONE WOULD EITHER HAVE TO MOVE THAT IS CREDIBLE MM-HMM
AND SECOND THAT, OR THEY'D HAVE TO MOVE THAT IS NOT CREDIBLE.
AND SECOND THAT, OR THEY'D HAVE TO MOVE THAT WARRANTS FURTHER INVESTIGATION.
SO WE'D HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE THREE MOTIONS AND A SECOND TO OPEN UP DISCUSSION.
SO WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T JUST HAVE A MOTION TO LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
THOSE ARE THE THREE MOTIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT YOU CAN DISCUSS, AND AGAIN, IF YOU, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO SUMMARIZE WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU'D WANT TO, UH, PERHAPS DISCUSS WITH YOURSELF HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT UH, AN ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN.
I'LL CHECK ON THE QUESTION OF, UH, WELL, I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
WE GOT A PRETTY GOOD BACKGROUND.
I MEAN, ALL THE DIFFERENT FACTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THOSE TO READ AND ANALYZE, UM, IS IT BEST TO, I MEAN, WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE TO MAKE THE PUBLIC FEEL THAT WE'VE REACHED A FAIR DECISION, DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE FACTS OR IS IT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO APPROACH THIS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA CREATE SOMEBODY SOMETHING THAT ISN'T THERE, BUT YOU DON'T WANNA LOOK LIKE YOU'RE WHITEWASHING SOMETHING EITHER.
SO THIS IS A SENSITIVE MATTER.
SO HOW DO YOU BEST APPROACH IT? I, WELL, I CAN GIVE YOU A SUGGESTION BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE FLEXIBILITY OBVIOUSLY WITH, UH, TO WHAT DEGREE YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT AND THE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
BUT IF, IF YOUR CHOICE AFTER THE MOTIONS IS TO HAVE ME SUMMARIZE, I WILL TRY TO HIT WHAT I BELIEVE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS BECAUSE IT ALL GOES BACK TO THAT PROVISION IN YOUR, UH, THAT IT WAS FILED UNDER, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE BENEFIT TO THE EMPLOYEE OR ANOTHER.
RIGHT? AND THAT, SO REALLY IF YOU LOOK AT IT ALL, IT ALL COMES BACK TO WHETHER OR NOT, UH, IN THIS CASE, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO SECURE A PRIVILEGE OR EXEMPTION FOR THE PERSON THAT'S BEEN CHARGED WITH THIS OR THE OTHER.
THE CLAIM IS FOR ANOTHER, RIGHT? IT'S NOT FOR CHRISTMAS FOR ANOTHER.
UM, I, I DON'T WANNA GET TOO MUCH INTO DETAIL TODAY 'CAUSE IT WOULD JUST TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BUT I THINK I CAN LAY IT OUT FOR YOU AND I THINK IT'S LAID OUT FOR YOU'LL DO THAT.
I'LL GIVE YOU, I'LL, SO YOU'LL COVER THOSE DETAILS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO US IN WRITING.
THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO MAKE SURE OF THAT THAT IS COVERED BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC ABSOLUTELY.
AND JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THAT'S THE MATERIALS THAT WE STUDIED.
SO, SO YOU DO THE, YOU DO THE REPORT AND THEN WE MAKE THE MOTION? NO, THE MOTION WILL HAVE TO COME FIRST, BUT BECAUSE THE ROBERT'S RULES TO GET TO GET TO THE REPORT.
AND SO, SO WE HAVE TO READ THE REPORT IN ADVANCE AND HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT MOTION WE WANNA MAKE.
AND THEN YOU, THEN YOU DESCRIBE IT AND THEN, WELL WHICH MOTION IS IT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO CALL ALL ANY OF THEM? ANY ONE OF 'EM.
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WOULD SAY ANY ONE, BUT I WOULD THINK ABOUT THATSO THIS IS GONNA COME DOWN TO, WE'VE GOT THREE OPTIONS AND WE'VE GOT ALL THE DETAIL.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE AND SOMEONE'S GONNA RAISE THEIR HAND FIRST TO MAKE A MOTION.
SO WHOEVER RAISES THEIR HAND FIRST TO MAKE A MOTION IS THE ONE'S STICKING THEIR NECK OUT TO, TO, TO MAKE THE RIGHT MOTION AND SEE IF THEY'VE GOT A SECOND.
THEN IF THEY'VE GOT A SECOND, THEN WE TALK ABOUT IT.
OKAY, WELL I'VE READ IT AND REREAD IT AND REREAD AND I'LL BE GLAD TO MAKE THE FIRST ONE
SO WILL THEY BE SO, UH, YEAH, YEAH.
THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, WHICH IS TO READ IT, REREAD IT, AND REREAD IT.
AND ALSO, I MEAN, ALL OF THIS IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.
YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT SOME THE, IF ANYONE REALLY WANTS TO, TO READ ALL THE GRITTY DETAIL, NONE OF IT'S HIDDEN AND IT'S, IT'S ALL IN THERE.
AND YOU'RE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO HIT EVERY SINGLE POINT.
I, I WILL TELL YOU, I'LL TELL YOU MONDAY, SOME OF THE POINTS AREN'T ON POINT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND, BUT, AND, AND I CAN EXPLAIN WHY THEN.
BUT YEAH, IT WOULD TAKE US HOURS TO GO THROUGH EVERY POINT BY POINT.
I DON'T TEND TO DO THAT BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, MOST OF THE POINTS ARE IRRELEVANT TO THE PRIMARY ARGUMENT.
SO WE WANNA HIT THE PRIMARY ARGUMENT AND KEEP FOCUSED ON THAT AND, AND I THINK THAT HELPS KEEP IT CLEAR FOR YOU.
AND JASON, SOMEWHERE IN THIS PACKET IS THE ACTUAL COMPLAIN, THE FRONT, THE UH, TYPE OUT.
YEAH, THE FRONT IS THE, THE ACTUAL COMPLAINT IS JUST, IT STARTS ON THE SECOND PAGE.
THIS WHOLE THING THAT SAYS OKAY.
AND SO THAT WAS PAPER THAT WAS FILLED OUT OR TYPED OUT BY YEAH.
THE COMPLAINT AND ALL THE EXHIBITS ARE SIMPLY COPIED FROM WHAT PAGE BY PAGE WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMPLAINANT.
AND WE DIDN'T, WE DON'T CHANGE THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, MOVING ON.
OTHER NEW BUSINESS APPOINTMENT OF FOUR MEMBERS TO TREE BOARD.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? PRETTY BE TYPICAL, UH, TWO YEAR TERMS EXPIRING ON MAY 31ST, 28TH.
ONE MUST BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY COVERAGE AND IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER THAN OUR LAST APPOINTMENT PROCESS.
AS MANY AS THE, THE NUMBERS WE HAD.
I WAS, I WAS RUNNING OUT OF PAPER.
I THINK WHEN YOU RUN OUT PAPER RUN OUT, YOU KNOW, WHITEBOARD OR WHATEVER YOU'RE WORKING ON, YOU'RE DONE.
THAT'S A GOOD PROCESS THAT YOU HAD.
ALRIGHT, WE GOING ON TO ITEMS, UH, THAT YOU MIGHT FIND A LITTLE BIT MORE EXCITING.
UH, FIRST ONE THAT ON COMMITTEE PRESENTATION COMMISSIONS.
SO THE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS THE UH, VETERANS MONUMENT AD HO COMMITTEE HAS BEEN WORKING HARD TO, I THINK THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU PROVIDED THEM IN JANUARY AND REVISED THE CONCEPT PLAN TO BE SMALLER IN SCALE, TO FIT WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT YOU KIND OF ASKED THEM TO, TO MAKE AS A TARGET, UM, AND TO PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD WOULD BE PROUD FOR WITHIN, UH, THOSE PARAMETERS.
AND SO MAGGIE ACKERMAN FROM HODGSON DOUGLAS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS IS UH, HERE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE CONCEPT THAT THE COMMITTEE IS PROPOSING FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
AND MAGGIE, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND THEN AFTER MATTHEW WE WILL HEAR, UM, FROM OTHERS ABOUT MARKETING AND WHERE WE GO FROM HERE IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED.
DO WE HAVE ANY PICTURES OR ANYTHING? YEAH.
WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FEEDBACK TODAY WE WANT TO THANK THE A COMMITTEE CONTINUED ON THIS EFFORT, THOUGHTFUL AND CONSISTENT IN KEEPING THE FOCUS ON HONORING THOSE WHO SERVE IN MAKING SURE THIS REFLECTS TO BRIGHTWOOD COMMUNITY.
WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK THIS COMMISSION THAT WE'VE DONE AT OUR LAST PRESENTATION, THIS DIRECT, THOUGHTFUL AND EXACTLY WHAT THE PROJECT NEEDED.
WE'VE E EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF CREATING SOMETHING THAT READS UNMISTAKABLY AS A MONUMENT.
THE MOMENT YOU ARRIVE SOMETHING MORE TRADITIONAL AND FORMAL IN CHARACTER AND MORE FOCUSED IN SCALE AND COST.
YOU ALSO RAISED IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS AROUND ACCESSIBILITY, INCLUDING THE DISTANCE TO HANDICAP PARKING AND OVERALL EASE OF ACCESS TO THE SPACE WE HEARD YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU'LL SEE TODAY IS A DIRECT RESPONSE TO THAT GUIDANCE.
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WE LAST MET, WE PRESENTED TO DESIGN DIRECTION.THE FIRST REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION WAS IMMERSIVE EXPERIENTIAL UNFOLDING IN ORGANIC LAYERS WITH THE REFLECTING POOL AND LABYRINTH WALLS AT ITS CENTER.
IT WAS INTENDED TO BE CONTEMPLATED SOMETHING VISITORS WOULD MOVE THROUGH GRADUALLY THE SECOND STRUCTURED FOCUS OFFERED A MORE CEREMONIAL ACCESS ORIENTED TOWARD THE CITIZEN SOLDIER SCULPTURE WITH A STRONGER SENSE OF ORDER AND POSSESSION.
BOTH CONCEPTS WERE ROOTED IN THE SAME FOUNDATION.
THE THEMES WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS, THE IDEA OF THE CITIZEN SOLDIER, THE RIPPLE OF SERVICE FROM INDIVIDUAL TO FAMILY TO COMMUNITY AND THE DESIRE NOT JUST TO HONOR BUT TO EDUCATE AND INSPIRE FUTURE GENERATIONS.
BUT WHAT WE HEARD FROM YOU WAS EQUALLY CLEAR THAT THE INTERPRETIVE LAYERING WHILE MEANINGFUL, BEGAN TO FEEL MORE LIKE A PARK AND WAS PERHAPS TOO ABSTRACT, THAT THE SCALE AND COMPLEXITY EXCEEDED WHAT THIS PROJECT TRULY NEEDED TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND THAT THE OVERALL CHARACTER NEEDED TO SHIFT TOWARDS SOMETHING MORE TRADITIONAL, MORE IMMEDIATE, AND MORE UNIVERSALLY UNDERSTOOD.
SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T ASK THE VISITOR TO INTERPRET WHERE THEY ARE, BUT TELLS THEM CLEARLY AND IMMEDIATELY.
SO WE STEPPED BACK AND LOOKED AT WHAT WAS ESSENTIAL, WHAT TRULY MATTERED, AND WE REBUILT THE DESIGN AROUND THAT CLARITY.
THE UPDATED DESIGN KEEPS THE HEART OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY ASKED FOR AND DELIVERS IT IN A FORM THAT IS FOCUSED, DIGNIFIED AND PERMANENT.
THE SITE REMAINS THE SAME ADJACENT TO THE BRENTWOOD POLICE STATION WITH THE POND TO THE NORTH, PROVIDED A NATURAL BACKDROP.
ACCESSIBLE PARKING IS LOCATED IN CLOSE COSTUME TO KEY ENTRY, ALLOWING FOR A DIRECT AND CONVENIENT APPROACH INTO THE SPACE.
WHAT HAS CHANGED IS HOW DELIBERATELY THE NEW DESIGN USES THAT SETTING.
THE UPDATED CONCEPT ESTABLISHES A CLEAR VISUAL AXIS FROM THE ENTRY POINT TOWARDS THE POND, SO THAT FROM THE MOMENT YOU ARRIVE, YOUR EYE IS DRAWN TOWARD THE MONUMENT.
THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE OR WHAT THIS PLACE IS FOR.
AT ITS CORE, THE UPDATED DESIGN IS A COMPOSITION BUILT ON CLARITY, SYMMETRY AND FOCUS.
THE CENTER OF THE SPACE IS A CURVED, SEMI ENCLOSED PLAZA ANCHORED BY THE BRONZE CULTURE OF THE CITIZEN SOLDIER.
AND THAT CENTRAL MOON IS INTENTIONAL WHEN YOU ARRIVE.
THERE IS NOTHING FROM COMPETING WITH IT AND NOTHING OBSCURING IT.
ENC CIRCLING THE PLAZA IS A SEAT WALL, WHICH DOES MORE THAN PROVIDE SEATING.
IT DEFINES THE SPACE, IT CREATES A SENSE OF ENCLOSURE WITHOUT ISOLATION.
IT ALLOWS CEREMONIES TO FEEL CONTAINED AND INTENTIONAL WHILE STILL REMAINING OPEN TO THE BROADER LANDSCAPE WITHIN THAT WALL.
THE SIX BRANCH FLAGS RISE IN FORMATION AND BEYOND THAT.
ON AXIS IS THE AMERICAN FLAG POSITIONED IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE POND, UTILIZING THE BORROWED VIEW TO THE WATER WHILE MINIMIZING THE IMPACT ON THE SITE.
A POND OVERLOOK PROVIDES A SECONDARY MOMENT FOR VISITORS WHO WANT TO STEP AWAY FROM THE CENTRAL SPACE AND REFLECT MORE QUIETLY.
FLANKING THE PLAZA ARE WALLS, HOUSING BRONZE PLAQUES.
THESE ARE INTENTIONALLY RESTRAINED, NOT OVERWHELMING AND NOT OVERLY DIDACTIC, BUT EXPRESSION, THEY PROVIDE THE NARRATIVE STRUCTURE OF THE 16 SOLDIER WITHOUT FULLY FOCUS ON THE CENTRAL EXPERIENCE.
THE PROCESS SUPPORTS JUST OVER 100 PEOPLE COMFORTABLY, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR MOST CEREMONIES.
THE SURROUNDING LAWN EXPANDS THAT CAPACITY TO INC WITHOUT REQUIRING ADDITIONAL BUILT INFRASTRUCTURE, ALLOWING FLEXIBILITY TO BETWEEN THE TWO SPACES.
IN ADDITION, THE POND OVERLOOK CAN ACCOMMODATE APPROXIMATELY 30 PEOPLE AND PROVIDES A MORE INTIMATE SETTING FOR SMALLER GATHERINGS OR ALTERNATIVE EVENT FORMATS.
ADDING ANOTHER LAYER OF FLEXIBILITY TO HOW THE SPACE CAN BE USED AND THE ACCESSIBLE ROUTE IS DIRECT CLEAR AND A DA COMPLIANT.
THE WALK TO THE PLAZA IS COMFORTABLY UNDER A MINUTE FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL WITH CLEAR AND EQUAL ACCESS TO BOTH THE PLAZA AND THE OVERLOOK, ENSURING THAT THIS SPACE IS TRULY OPEN TO EVERYONE.
WHAT THESE RENDERINGS BEGIN TO SHOW IS NOT JUST WHAT THE MONUMENT LOOKS LIKE, BUT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE AS WE APPROACH THE VERTICAL PRESENCE OF THE FLAGS AND TREES BEGINS TO DEFINE THE SPACE EVEN BEFORE YOU FULLY ENTER IT.
THERE'S A SHIFT FROM EVERYDAY MOVEMENT INTO SOMETHING MORE INTENTIONAL.
WHEN YOU STEP INTO THE PLAZA, THE SCALE TIGHTENS SLIGHTLY, THE SEAT WALL FRAMES YOUR VIEW AND THE SCULPTURE BECOMES IMMEDIATE.
AND THAT MOMENT MATTERS BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE MONUMENT TRANSITIONS FROM BEING SOMETHING YOU SEE TO SOMETHING YOU EXPERIENCE.
THE MATERIAL PALETTE REINFORCES ALL OF THAT WARM STONE, BRONZE, CLEAN AND DURABLE SURFACES.
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OVERLY ORNAMENTAL BUT NOTHING AUSTERE EITHER.AND THEN AS YOU LOOK BEYOND THE SCULPTURE, YOUR EYE CARRIES THROUGH THE FLAGS OUT TO THE WATER.
THAT CONTINUITY CREATES A SENSE THAT THE SPACE EXTENDS BEYOND ITSELF, THAT IT'S CONNECTED TO SOMETHING LARGER.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL HERE, TO CREATE A PLACE THAT FEELS GROUNDED BUT ALSO EXPANSIVE.
AND MEANING THE SCULPTURE SHOWN IN THESE RENDERINGS IS A PLACEHOLDER TO REPRESENT SCALE, PLACEMENT AND OVERALL INTENT WITHIN THE SPACE.
THE FINAL SCULPTURE WILL BE DEVELOPED IN COLLABORATION WITH THE SELECTIVE ARTIST THROUGH A SEPARATE COMMISSIONING PROCESS.
AND THAT DESIGN WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THIS COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AT A LATER DATE.
NOW THAT WE'VE WALKED THROUGH THE PLAN AND OVERALL DESIGN, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW TO THE NARRATIVE FRAMEWORK THE THEMES AND CONTENT THAT GIVE THE MONUMENT IS NEEDED.
THE NARRATIVE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS MONUMENT COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE THEMES WE HEARD THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS AND IT'S GROUNDED IN A SINGLE IDEA.
AT ITS CORE, THE SPACE IS NOT JUST ABOUT RECOGNIZING SERVICE IN THE ABSTRACT, IT'S ABOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THE VERY REAL EXPERIENCE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE WATCHED SOMEONE THEY LOVE PUT ON UNIFORM AND WALK OUT THE DOOR.
THIS IS A PLACE TO PAUSE, TO REMEMBER, AND TO SAY CLEARLY IN A PERMANENT WAY THAT THAT SERVICE IS SEEN, VALUED, AND NOT FORGOTTEN.
I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE PLAQUES WE WILL SHOW HERE ARE NOT FINALIZED.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES INTENDED TO CONVEY THE OVERALL DIRECTION, THE TONE, STRUCTURE, AND TYPE OF CONTENT WE'RE PROPOSING.
THE FINAL WORDING AND LAYOUT WILL BE FURTHER DEVELOPED AND BROUGHT BACK FOR REVIEW.
THE MONUMENT BEGINS WITH THE MAIN PLAQUE, WHICH SERVES AS AN ANCHOR FOR THE ENTIRE EXPERIENCE.
IT ANSWERS THE FIRST QUESTION ANY VISITOR WILL HAVE, WHO IS THIS FOR? AND THE ANSWER IS INTENTIONALLY BROAD.
IT IS NOT JUST FOR THE VETERAN STANDING IN FRONT OF IT, BUT FOR EVERY PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO HAS SERVED EVERY FAMILY THAT SUPPORTED THAT SERVICE AND EVERY NEIGHBOR WHO CARRIED THE WEIGHT OF THAT ABSENCE.
THAT OPENING MOMENT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT ESTABLISHES COMMON GROUND, IT BRINGS SERVICE NOT AS SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING DEEPLY CONNECTED TO IT.
AND IT ALSO DIRECTLY TIES TO THE SCULPTURE AT THE CENTER OF THE SPACE.
THAT FIGURE IS THE PHYSICAL REPRESENTATION OF THE CITIZEN SOLDIER.
NOT AN ABSTRACT SYMBOL, BUT A RECOGNIZABLE PERSON, A STANDING SOLDIER, GROUNDED AND PRESENT.
THE IMAGES YOU'RE SEEING HERE ARE PRECEDENT EXAMPLES THAT REFLECT THE DIRECTION WE'RE PROPOSING, REALISTIC, DIGNIFIED, AND HUMAN IN SCALE.
THE FINAL SCULPTURE WILL CONTINUE TO BE REFINED THROUGH AN OR ARTIST OF SELECTION AND COMMISSIONING PROCESS.
AND THAT DESIGN WILL BE BROUGHT BACK FOR REVIEW AHEAD OF THE SCULPTURE.
THE POWER WALL CARRIES TO MONUMENT FOR WORD, VALUES, DUTY, HONOR, SACRIFICE, AND SERVICE.
EACH ONE IS A STANDALONE DECLARATION, NOT A PARAGRAPH TO BE READ, BUT A WORD TO BE FILLED.
DUTY COMES FIRST BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS THE MOMENT OF DECISION, THE CHOICE TO SERVE BEFORE THE COST IS FULLY UNDERSTOOD, BUT IT DOESN'T STOP AT THE INDIVIDUAL.
IT GROUNDS THAT DECISION AND CONSEQUENCE.
FREEDOM IS NOT SELF-SUSTAINING.
IT REQUIRES SOMEONE TO STAND UP FOR IT.
THIS CONNECTS THE VETERAN'S INDIVIDUAL ACT TO SOMETHING.
EVERY PERSON WHO ROOM BENEFITS FROM EVERY SINGLE DAY MAKE SURE THE PERSONAL CHOICE TO SERVE FEEL BOTH PROFOUNDLY HUMAN AND UNIVERSALLY RELEVANT.
HONOR FOLLOWS AND CARRIES THE QUIETER TONE.
THIS PLAQUE ACKNOWLEDGES THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE WIDELY RECOGNIZED, THE UNNAMED, BUT UNREPORTED.
THE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE SERVICE DIDN'T MAKE THE HISTORY BOOKS AND WHOSE SACRIFICE WASN'T MET WITH THE WELCOME CONTROL TO PASS THE VISITOR TO EXTEND THEIR GRATITUDE BEYOND THE FAMILIAR AND INTO THE FULL AND ACCOUNTABLE BREADTH OF THE AMERICAN SERVICE.
SACRIFICE IS THE EMOTIONAL CENTER OF THE SEQUENCE.
THE DUTY IS THE BEGINNING OF THE STORY AND HONORS ITS CONSCIENCE.
THIS IS ITS CORE AND IT DOES NOT SOFTEN WHAT SERVICE CAN COST.
THIS PLAQUE ALLOWS THE FULL WAY THAT THAT COST TO BE FELT.
IT IS THE MOMENT IN THE VISITOR JOURNEY WHERE THE REALITY OF THE SPACE TRULY LANDS.
AND IN DOING SO, IT EARNS THE GRATITUDE THAT SURROUNDS IT.
AND THEN SERVICE CLOSES THAT SEQUENCE INTENTIONALLY BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY ONE OF THE FOUR VALUES THAT DOES NOT.
HONOR IS GIVING, SACRIFICES MADE, BUT SERVICE CONTINUES.
AND THE VETERAN WHO COMES HOME AND KEEPS SHOWING UP IN THE FAMILY THAT REBUILDS AND THE NEIGHBOR, HE NEVER FORGETS.
SO THE VISITOR BEGINS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE PAST, IT IS ONGOING.
FINALLY, THE LAST PLAQUE SHIFTS THE FOCUS FORWARD AND
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IT DOES SO INTENTIONALLY.EVERY PLAQUE THAT PRECEDES IT REFLECTS ON WHAT HAS BEEN GIVEN.
THIS ONE ASKS WHAT COMES NEXT.
IT IS NOT A CELEBRATION, IT IS A CHARGE.
IT REMINDS THE VISITOR THAT THE FREEDOMS RECOGNIZ IN THIS SPACE OR NOT GUARANTEED BY HISTORY ALONE.
THEY REQUIRE SOMETHING FROM EVERY GENERATION THAT INHERITS THEM.
AND THAT'S WHAT ALLOWS THE MONUMENT TO FEEL ACTIVE RATHER THAN STATIC.
IT DOES NOT LET THE VISITORS SIMPLY OBSERVE AND WALK AWAY.
IT CLOSES THE LOOP THAT BEGAN WITH THE CITIZEN'S STANDARD REINFORCING THAT SERVICE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED, BUT SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES WITH WHOEVER IS STANDING IN THE SPACE TODAY, THE NARRATIVE PLAQUES ARE ARRANGED IN A CLEAR SEQUENCE THROUGH THE SPACE, GUIDING VISITORS FROM THE CITIZENS BUILDER INTRODUCTION THROUGH THE BOARD VALUES AND ENDING WITH THE ALL ACTION.
THE TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR THE UPDATED DESIGN IS ROUGHLY 1.3 MILLION, ALIGNING WITH THE GOAL TO REMAIN WITHIN A $1.5 MILLION BUDGET.
THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT PRODUCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS CONCEPTS AND DIRECTLY REFLECTS YOUR FEEDBACK.
THE DESIGN IS UN SIMPLIFIED AND FOCUSED ON THE ELEMENTS THAT ADD MOST.
IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY FUNDED PROJECT.
BECAUSE OF THAT, THE BUDGET HAS BEEN STRUCTURED TO BE CLEAR, ACHIEVABLE, AND EASY TO COMMUNICATE AS PART OF THE FUNDRAISING EFFORT.
FOLLOWING CONCEPT APPROVAL, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE A FOCUS FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN OF WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY TO BUILD SUPPORT AND SECURE FUNDING.
THE TIMELINE IS STRUCTURED TO ALLOW BOTH MOMENTUM AND FLEXIBILITY.
IS WORTH NOTING THAT THIS IS A SAMPLE SCHEDULE THAT ASSUMES NO ONE FORESEE DELAYS IN BEST CASE CONDITIONS.
APPROVAL THIS SPRING ALLOWS FUNDRAISING TO BEGIN IMMEDIATELY.
AND ONCE THE 50% FUNDS TARGET IS REACHED, DESIGN WILL BEGIN IN EARNEST.
THE GOAL IS A JULY 4TH, 2027 COMPLETION.
THE DATE THAT FEELS BOTH INTENTIONAL AND IMPACTFUL.
WHAT WE PRESENTED TODAY IS MORE THAN A LANDSCAPE DESIGN.
IT'S A COMMITMENT FROM THIS COMMUNITY TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED IT, THAT THEIR SACRIFICE FOR BE VISIBLE, PERMANENT, AND HONORED.
WE BELIEVE THIS DESIGN NEEDS THE MOMENT.
IT'S GROUNDED IN WHAT RECKLESS RESIDENTS SAID THEY WANTED DESIGNED TO LAST READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
YOU ASKED US TO COME BACK TO SOMETHING MORE FOCUSED, MORE TRADITIONAL AND MORE THEORY.
AND LONDON WE BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT STANDS BEFORE TODAY.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ASHLEY AND CONGRESS.
GOOD MORNING, I'M, I APPRECIATE GOOD.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME.
BEFORE YOU ALL THIS MORNING, I'M ASHLEY MCAL AND I SERVE AS THE HISTORIC COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE TO THE VETERANS MONUMENT COMMITTEE.
AND I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FUNDRAISING PLAN FOR THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M GONNA DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE FUNDRAISING PLAN.
SO A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT OVERARCHING THEMES.
THE, UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE ONE UNDERSTANDS THAT EVERY GIFT TO THIS VETERAN'S MONUMENT COMMITTEE IS IMPORTANT, WHETHER IT'S SMALL OR LARGE.
SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH.
WE'LL HAVE MAJOR GIFT PROSPECTS, BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY-WIDE INITIATIVE.
SO WITH CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, UH, SOME OF OUR RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES, UH, AREA SCHOOLS, THOSE TYPE THINGS.
BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE A MAJOR GIFT PROSPECT LIST THAT WE'LL WORK WITH ON THE LARGER GIFTS.
GENERALLY OVER 25,000, UM, OR MORE UP TO ABOUT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON THOSE MAJOR GOOD PROSPECTS.
THE QUESTION THAT COMES UP QUITE OFTEN ARE THE CONTRIBUTIONS TRULY, UH, IRS TAX DEDUCTIBLE.
AND SO BECAUSE THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD IS A SECTION ONE 70 C REVENUE ORGANIZATION, ALL CONTRIBUTIONS WILL BE TAX DEDUCTIBLE AS LONG AS THERE'S NO BENEFIT RECEIVED BY THE INDIVIDUAL MAKING CONTRIBUTION.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, RELATIVE TO THE FEDERAL INCOME TAX CODE.
AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.
UH, 'CAUSE THAT QUESTION DOES COME UP QUITE OFTEN.
THE, UH, LEADERSHIP GIFTS OVER 25,000 WILL HAVE ONSITE RECOGNITION.
SO AT THE MONUMENT, WE'LL HAVE A RECOGNITION THERE.
FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAKE A GIFT.
OVER 25,000, UH, ALL GIFTS WILL BE RECOGNIZED, MOST LIKELY THROUGH AN ONLINE RECOGNITION.
UH, WE'LL HAVE A VETERANS MONUMENT WEBPAGE THAT WILL HAVE SOME FULL RECOGNITION THERE FOR EVERY GIFT, UH, THAT'S CONTRIBUTED.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE MULTIPLE WAYS TO GIVE.
SO WE'LL HAVE, UH, ONLINE ACCESS.
UM, AND THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON THE ONLINE ABILITY TO GIVE BASED ON STATE LAW.
BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF TO DEVELOP THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND, AND MAKE THAT AS AVAILABLE AS BEST WE CAN.
UH, IN, IN AN ONLINE GIVING CAPACITY, WE'LL ACCEPT
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CHECKS, CREDIT CARD, AND NEW PLEDGES FOR LARGE GIFTS UP TO 24 MONTHS.SO UP TO TWO YEARS WE'LL HAVE, UM, ABILITY TO MAKE PLEDGES OVER A $25,000 GIFT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, OPEN THE FLOOR AT THIS POINT.
THE COMMITTEE HAS WORKED HARD ON THIS PROJECT.
WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT GREAT PARTNERS WITH HODGSON DOUGLAS.
UM, THEY WORKED ON THE WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE MONUMENT, IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
UM, AND THAT TURNED OUT VERY WELL AT THE PARTHENON.
AND SO WE'RE READY TO GO TO WORK ON THE FUNDRAISING PORTION.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO, BUT WE FEEL LIKE EVERY CITIZEN IN BRENTWOOD PROBABLY HAS A, A REASON TO GIVE TO THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE ALL OWE A DEBT OF GRATITUDE TO OUR VETERANS.
OH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK ON THIS TO YOU AND, AND ALL THE FOLKS THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS.
AND THAT IS CERTAINLY A, AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION.
UM, ON THE, UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT IS TAX DE DEDUCTIBLE AS LONG AS NO BENEFIT IS RECEIVED.
SO CERTAINLY RECOGNITION THAT A PRICE IS NOT CONSIDERED A BENEFIT.
I REALLY LIKE THE UPDATED ONE MUCH BETTER, BUT I STILL HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT IT.
THE OVERLOOK POND AREA SEEMS LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
I MEAN, IS THAT REALLY NECESSARY? SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD STOP AT HERE AND YOU'VE GOT A GORGEOUS DOCUMENT.
I'M WONDERING HOW MANY DOLLARS WE'D SENT THIS WALKWAY HERE, ASHLEY, IS THIS GONNA BE CREATED? THAT WHOLE WALKWAY FROM HERE TO HERE? THAT'S EXPENSIVE.
I THINK, I THINK THE, UM, THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS IN ORDER TO CAPTURE THE, THE PEACEFULNESS OF THE LAKE AND INCORPORATE WHERE YOU HAVE, IF YOU THINK YOU'RE ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HERITAGE.
SO YOU HAVE RESIDENTS THAT WILL MOST LIKELY WANT TO WALK AND SEE THE MONUMENT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
SO THEY'LL COME ON THE PATHWAY THROUGH THERE AND COME UP TO THIS.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.
I THINK THE AMERICAN FLAG OUGHT TO BE DOWN WITH WHERE THE OTHER FLAGS ARE INSTEAD OF WAY AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
AND IF I, IF I MAY, TO THAT POINT, GETTING THE AMERICAN FLAG A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THE MONUMENT WAS BY DESIGN.
BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AMERICAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN, BUT TO ME, I DON'T LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I KNOW THEY DID IT TO MAKE IT SPECIAL.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AN AMERICAN FLAG AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TWO TWO, I'M NOT HAVING ONE WHERE THE MONUMENT IS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME, WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN TASTES.
I'M JUST SAYING I THINK THAT'S SUPERFLUOUS THERE AND EXPENSIVE AND UNNECESSARY.
SO I GUESS THE COUNTERPOINT IS THE, THE ONE WITH THE LINE DRAWN.
SEE THE THE THREE THINGS WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE ONE PLAZA, THE ONE BY THE LAKE, THE AMERICAN FLAG THAT DRAWS HER EYE STRAIGHT THROUGH IN THE LINE OF SIGHT, I THINK IS REALLY CLEVER.
IT'S A REALLY NEAT DESIGN ELEMENT.
YOU ACT LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T LIKE IT.
IT IS AN OVERALL COST TO THAT.
'CAUSE WE DISCUSSED THAT AS A COMMITTEE THROUGH SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT DID NOT ADD A LOT OF COST BECAUSE THE PLAZA, A LITTLE PLAZA SUCH SMALL OKAY.
IT ALSO, THE AMERICAN FLAG FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS IS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND SO IF YOU PUT THE AMERICAN FLAG HERE, YOU'VE ALMOST GOT TWO AMERICANS.
BLACKS COMPETING THIS ONE BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT KIND OF COME, THE WAY THE BUILDING'S DESIGNED COMES BACK BEHIND.
IT DOES NOT COMPETE WITH THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
BUT, BUT IT IS A FOCAL POINT OF WHY THE NATION FLAG, WHY WE WANT TO SERVE OR A LOT PEOPLE HAVE SERVED.
AND SO THAT ALL OF THAT WENT INTO THIS.
'CAUSE INITIALLY WE THOUGHT, WELL, WE'LL PUT IT HERE, BUT THEN WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE DIAGRAMS AND ESPECIALLY OUR ARCHITECTS WHO WERE VERY GOOD AT POINTING OUT, SHOWING US DIFFERENT PICTURES, THE TWO FLAGS WERE SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY AMERICAN FLAGS THAT THEY ALMOST COMPETED WITH EACH OTHER.
BUT US, THAT FOCAL POINT, IF YOU COME INTO THE MINE AND YOU LOOK OUT IT DOES, YOU CAPTURE ALL OF THE MAIN ELEMENTS, THE SIX BRANCH FLAGS, THE SOLDIER STATUE OF WHATEVER CONFIGURATION THAT IS.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE AMERICAN FLAG.
SO JUST TWO COMMENTS, UM, FOR QUESTIONS FIRST IS, UH, ARE THE FLAGS GOING TO BE 24 7? ARE THEY GONNA BE LIGHTED, INCLUDING THE AMERICAN AMERICAN FLAG HAS TO BE LIGHTED, BUT
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IT IS GONNA STAY UP 24 7 UNLESS YOU TAKE IT DOWN, RIGHT? YES.SO, SO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT IT'LL STAY UP.
AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND QUESTION IS IN TERMS OF THE, THE DONORS AND MAYBE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, UM, HAVE SOME PEOPLE STEP FORWARD.
I DON'T, I DON'T NEED ANY NAMES.
I JUST WANNA KNOW, LIKE HAVE YOU HAD SOME PEOPLE STEP FORWARD AND WHAT HAVE UM, THE VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS SAID ABOUT MONUMENT? WE, WE'VE HAD INTEREST OKAY.
FROM BEGINNING, BACK WHEN WE FIRST STARTED MEETING.
AND ACTUALLY I ALMOST SENSE, AND ACTUALLY CORRECT ME IF I'M BEING LITTLE ZEALOUS, I ALMOST SINCE WE'VE HAD TO HOLD 'EM BACK, BUT ALL OF 'EM WANTED TO SEE A DESIGN.
THEY WANT, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, BLAME THEM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A MAJOR DONOR.
BUT EVEN PEOPLE WHO I DON'T THINK WERE BE MAJOR DONORS ARE ASKING, THEY WERE LIKE, AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SO COURT FOR US TO GET APPROVAL BEFORE WE GOT AND FUNDRAISED FUNDRAISE.
KEEP IN MIND TOO, ON THAT PRICE, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT A 10% CONTINGENCY IN THERE.
IF, IF CONSTRUCTION COST OF THIS OR THAT IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN WE ANTICIPATE, OR THE STATUTE, THIS PROJECT COULD EVEN BE LESS THAN THIS.
BUT WE WILL PROBABLY TARGET TO RAISE ALMOST LIKE $5 MILLION ALWAYS.
UM, JUST SO WE HAVE SOME BUFFER, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS FOR CARE OR WHATEVER IN THE FUTURE LONG AFTER THIS COMMITTEE'S NOT A COMMITTEE ANYMORE OR WHATEVER, THAT THE CITY OR WHATEVER EMPLOYEE MAINTAIN IT PROFESSIONAL CARE.
SO ORIENTATION OF THE STATUTE, UM, THIS IN CIRCLE ACTUALLY IS FACED THE WRONG WAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? IN THIS, IN THIS PICTURE? MM-HMM.
IF YOU LOOK AT BACK SEMICIRCLE FACES OUT TO THE LAKE, NOT TO PARKING LOT.
WE INITIALLY LOOK AT IT THE PARKING LOT, YOU LOST A LOT OF INTIMACY AND YOU ALSO LOST THAT HUGE OPEN SPACE FOR A LARGER EVENT.
I WOULD LOVE IF WE HAD A VETERAN'S DAY CELEBRATION THERE,
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL DAY.
SO THAT'S PART OF WHY THAT WAS DESIGNED LIKE THAT.
BUT AS WE KEPT LOOKING AT IT, LOOKING WITH EVERYTHING HERE, AND YOU'RE STANDING IN THE, THE, THE MAIN PLAZA, IT'S, UH, LOOKING OUT OVER THAT WATER.
IT'S JUST, IT, IT, IT JUST, IT IS SPECIAL.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE LEG IS THAT WAY BEHIND YOU? THE SOLDIER'S BACK IS FACING THE LEG, THE LEG FROM NELSON WALKING AWAY FROM THE LEG, THE FLAG IS HE WALKING AWAY FROM THE FLAG? THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS.
IS THERE A SIGNIFICANCE TO WHETHER HE'S WALKING AWAY FROM THE FLAG OR TURNING ONE OUTING THE FLAG? IT, IT, IT, UH, PROBABLY NOT.
UM, WE KIND OF DID IT IN THIS BECAUSE ONE COMMENT, WELL ACTUALLY I THINK I HEARD IT TWO OR THREE TIMES IN THAT MEETING, WAS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE, IF WE WERE WALKING UP TO IT FROM THE PARKING LOT, YOU CAN TELL WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? AND SO WE THOUGHT OF THE STATUE AND THE VEGETATION WOULD BE DONE IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO SEE THAT STATUE IN THE PARKING LOT.
BUT IF, IF, IF THE COMMISSION DETERMINES LATER ON ONCE WE GET INTO THE STATUE, YOU KNOW, GET INTO, YOU KNOW, BIDDING IT OUT AND ALL THAT, IF Y'ALL DECIDE IT SHOULD FACE THE OTHER DIRECTION, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE EITHER.
SO HAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT, WELL, THIS SOLDIER'S ARMED, IF THIS SOLDIER'S SIMPLY UNARMED IN? NOT REALLY.
UM, IT'S, UH, UM, I THINK THAT'LL COME LATER.
YOU GET A STATUTE, LIKE WE CHOOSE AN ARTIST OR ARTIST GIVE CONCEPTUAL RENDERINGS AS THE PART OF THE BIDDING PROCESS, THEN WE THEN DISCUSS THAT.
JUST LIKE WITH THE PLAQUE, THE WORDING ON PLAQUES.
OUR PLAN IS TO BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU ONCE WE SOLIDIFY THEM AS WE GET INTO, SEE HOW THAT GOES AND MAKE SURE Y'ALL PROVE EVERYTHING DIFFERENT ON THE PLAQUES.
I, AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, THIS WAS SUCH A DISAPPOINTING, NOT THIS, THIS I'M GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT WAS SUCH A DISAPPOINTING PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
WE HAD A, A CELEBRATION OF THE TWO 50TH ON SUNDAY AND WE HAVE SOME NICE POSTERS THAT YOU CAN PUT IN STORE WINDOWS.
I'VE BEEN TO THREE PLACES AND WELL, I'M SORRY, WE'RE
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A NATIONAL CHAIN.WE DON'T PUT POSTERS IN OUR WINDOW FOR THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THIS COUNTRY.
I, I HOPE YOU GET A BETTER RESPONSE ON DONATING MONEY.
WE WEREN'T TWO 50 YEARS OLD, SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW IT VERY OH, I KNOW YOU OUTSIDE.
I'M JUST GONNA HAVE TO GET UP LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE PRIVATELY OWNED.
OH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I REALLY LIKE IT AND I, I ACTUALLY DO LIKE THAT SIDEWALK IN THE BACK.
I THINK IT INVITES IF I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WALK OVER TO THE POND IF THERE WAS A SIDEWALK THERE.
UM, BUT IF THERE WAS A SIDEWALK, I WOULD, I MEAN IT WOULD BE, AND I THINK IT KIND OF FRAMES THAT.
IT JUST INVITES YOU TO GO BACK THERE AND TOUCH.
SO I LIKE IT BECAUSE SCOUT GROUPS, YEAH.
MERIT FASHION, PATRIOTISM, COUNTRY OR WHATEVER, SMALLER SPACE.
THAT'S WHY PARTLY TO MAKE SURE EXPENSE WAS TO, THAT'S PART WHY'S ABOUT FOR 30 PEOPLE.
BUT ALSO IN A, IF YOU HAVE A CEREMONY, A MAIN SPEAKER COULD STAND THERE AND LET THE AUDIENCE LOOK OUT ON YOU, LIKE GIVES YOU ALTERNATIVES DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE EVENT.
UH, THERE'LL BE THAT, MY SENSE THERE WILL BE FENCE THERE WHERE EVERYBODY SEE THAT ON THE PLAZA AROUND OUR STANDING AROUND THE FLAT FALLS HERE.
THAT'LL BE MAYBE 40 OR 60 PEOPLE.
SO, UM, PART OF OUR THANKING THE COMMITTEE AND BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, I WAS PART OF THE VOTE, BUT Y'ALL BLESS THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD AND, UM, THIS PROCESS WITH A VERY, VERY ZEALOUS PASSIONATE COMMITTEE WHO HAS WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD AND IS LOOKING FORWARD TO EVEN MORE HARD WORK WITH FUNDRAISING AND EVERYTHING.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMITTEE TOO.
SO ON A KIND OF A COMBO QUESTION, DESIGN AND FUNDRAISING IS THE, IS THE, IS THERE ANY ADVANTAGE TO PHASING IT IN THE SENSE OF SAYING, HEY, IF WE HAVE THE INITIAL FUNDRAISING UP TO X AMOUNT, WE CAN BUILD THE MAIN PLAZA.
IF WE EXCEED THAT AND HIT OUR FULL BUDGET, WE CAN BUILD 'EM SIMULTANEOUSLY OR WE CAN DO IT IN PHASES AND, AND WOULD THAT BE AN ADVANTAGE FROM SOMEBODY WHO FALLS IN LOVE WITH THE PLAZA NEAR THE POND, SAY, YEAH, I WANNA STEP UP AND DO THAT.
YEAH, IT, MY SENSE IS PER FOR ECONOMY, YOU CAN BE BETTER TO THIS ON CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
IT'LL BE BETTER TO DO IT ONCE WE GET FINAL DESIGN TO DO IT AS A FUNDRAISING STRATEGY.
IF YOU CONSIDERED PHASING IS THE MOTIVATION TO, TO HIT THE, SO WE FIGURE WE'RE GONNA SHOOT FOR THE 50%.
IF WE HIT THE 50% AND SAY A THREE TO SIX MONTH PERIOD, HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO IT TWO, FOUR MONTHS.
WE'LL FEEL LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH MOMENTUM THAT THEY CAN DO ALL THE FINAL DESIGN STUFF WE NEED.
WE'LL STILL BE FUNDRAISING, BUT MY GOAL IS TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE I THINK IT, IT FITS BETTER AS A UNIT NOW.
IT, THIS AREA HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO PATRIOTIC AND JUST HOW THEY'VE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, DONE FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND STUFF.
I FEEL LIKE OUR FUNDRAISING GOAL IS VERY, VERY ACHIEVABLE.
BUT FOR SOME REASON THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE ECONOMY, VERY UNEXPECTED OR WHATEVER, UM, THEN YES, IT COULD BE SCALED BACK, BUT I THINK IT WILL BE, IF WE CAN RAISE THE MONEY, IT'LL BE CHEAPER TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE.
ONCE MOBILE, HAVING EVENTS, YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS LISTED FOR EACH.
SAY, OKAY, START OUT IN THIS WITH THIS 342 PEOPLE MM-HMM
THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT EXACTLY THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE STATUE.
ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVEN'T FACE THAT WAY, THE WALL'S NOT GONNA INTERFERE.
THEY'RE, THE WALL'S GONNA BE REAL LOW.
OKAY? THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE GONNA SEE FLAGS IN THE STATUE.
AND AS STEVE SAID, WHAT DIRECTION IS THAT STATUE FACING IF YOU'RE STANDING OUT THERE, IF YOU WERE STANDING IN THE PARK, THE WAY WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW, UHHUH
AND PARTLY WE DID THAT BECAUSE HOLD I KNOW THAT, BUT ARE WE LOOKING AT HIS FACE OR HIS BACK I THINK IS THE POINT HE GENTLEMAN FROM, SO THAT HE'S NOT LOOKING AT THE AMERICAN FLAG THEN NOT OKAY.
NOW IT COULD BE THAT WE COME UP WITH A STATUTE DESIGN THAT Y'ALL APPROVED AND EVERYBODY LOVES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, AND IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR HIM TO LOOK AT THE AMERICAN FLAG.
I, I THINK THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF THE
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CROWDS WOULD BE THAT NUMBER AND YOU WANT TO SEE THAT.I REALLY JUST AN EXAMPLE STATUE.
IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE MULTIPLE OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE TURNED DIFFERENT WAYS.
THIS IS JUST FOR REPRESENTATION PURPOSES.
SO CAN CAN WE GO BACK TO ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDES THAT SHOWS THE OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT JUST TO GIVE ME A YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING FROM, LET'S SAY THE, THE PARKING SPOTS, LIKE WHERE THE HANDICAP SPOTS ARE RIGHT THERE.
JUST GIVE ME A A A STRAIGHT LINE AT HOW MUCH TERRITORY IS BETWEEN NUMBER SIX AND THE BUSHES AT THE PARKING SPOTS.
LIKE JUST, IS THAT LIKE A HUNDRED YARDS? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW LONG IT TAKES PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A GAUGE ON HOW BIG THIS LOOKS FROM THE, FROM THE HANDICAPPED PARKING, WHICH IS LOCATED HERE.
OH NO, I JUST MEANT LIKE, SO GO TAKE YOUR RED LINE, THE, THE BOTTOM OF THE RED LINE.
AND GO TO THE BACK SIDEWALK ON THE MONUMENT AREA.
NOT THE WAY YOU GO A LITTLE FURTHER RIGHT THERE.
UM, HOW, WHAT IS THAT DISTANCE? UM, OKAY, SO FROM HERE TO HERE IS 140 LINEAR FEET.
SO I WOULD SAY MAYBE 50 LOOKS ABOUT HALF.
SO SO LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IT TO THE SIZES.
ONE OF OUR MEETINGS TOOK QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ON WHERE, LIKE THE DISTANCE SHOULD IT BE RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT? SHOULD IT BE, SO WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AND THEY WENT BACK AND DID SEVERAL DIFFERENT POSITIONINGS.
AND FOR SO MANY REASONS, THE POSITIONING WE GOT WAS THE BEST FOR LIKE, ON A SIDE AND WHERE IT DOESN'T COVER UP THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
SO WE DIDN'T WANT LIKE TO BLOCK THE BACK 20% OF THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
WELL I, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET I I THE DISTANCE FROM THE PARKING LOT, NOT, MIGHT AS WELL TRY TO GET A VISION OF HOW MUCH SPACE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS IS GONNA OCCUPY.
OF HEADS AND APPROVAL AND ALL THAT? SO I, I LIKE THIS.
WE CAN SO MUCH BETTER, BETTER THAN THE OTHER ONES THAT I, I THINK THIS IS A MORE DOABLE PROJECT AND, AND MORE WHAT MOST PEOPLE ENVISION DOES.
THAT FEELS VERY REALISTIC AND UH, I THINK THIS IS MAKE A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR CITY.
MY ONLY IS, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW VETERANS IN THIS COMMITTEE, SOME OF WHOM HAVE VOLUNTEERED A LOT FOR OUR CITY.
AND I THINK IF WE HAVE A LONE MALE SOLDIER THERE, IT'S GOING BE AN ISSUE.
I MEAN, I'M NOT ONE OF 'EM LIKE I I I HAVE NEVER SERVED, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED A LITTLE MORE ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF THE MILITARY MEMBERS OF OUR CITY.
AND THAT'S PART OF WHEN WE GET, OF COURSE WE'VE GOTTA FUNDRAISE FIRST TO MAKE SURE RIGHT.
EVERYTHING, BUT THAT'S PART OF WHEN WE PUT OUT FOR THE STATUTE WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A COMMISSIONING.
AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL NOTING THE STATUTES OF PLACEHOLDER, NOT A FINAL, FINAL DESIGN.
I THINK LI JEN'S POINT IS VERY VALID AS WE TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND THE SIGN FOR A PLACEHOLDER, I THINK WE WILL STAY WITH THE THEME OF DUTY HONOR.
THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME SERVICES.
THERE MAY BE SOME QUOTE THAT MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE CATCHES FOR SOMETHING THAT CHANGES.
BUT BEFORE WE LIKE A SET OF CONCRETE, THIS IS WHAT OUR PLAQUES ARE GONNA SAY, Y'ALL GET SEE 'EM AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE GOOD WITH WHATEVER WE'RE PUTTING UP HERE.
'CAUSE IT WILL BE THERE MANY, MANY YEARS ONCE IT'S, ONCE IT'S BUILT.
SO THE, UH, REFLECTING AREA, THE PAD BY THE, BY THE LAKE, IS THAT JUST A FLAT PLA AND ARE THERE BE COUPLE OF CONCRETE DITCHES PERHAPS? SO LET'S SAY SOME ELDERLY FOLKS WANT TO SIT DOWN AND REFLECT FOR A, IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO THAT.
UM, I MEAN NOT FANCY, JUST WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THIS GRANDMA NEEDS TO SIT DOWN.
WE CAN ALWAYS ADD FENCES LIKE
I WOULD WANT IT TO BE VERY LOW BECAUSE OF THE SURE VISUAL.
SO ACTUALLY IF YOU WALK OUT THERE, YOU GO TO THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND YOU WALK OFF THE LITTLE SIDEWALK ABOUT 15 FEET AND YOU CAN KIND OF PICTURE THIS IN YOUR MIND, JUST KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN IMAGE FLAGS LOOKING OUT OVER THE POND.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE VERY STUNNING.
AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M ON THE COMMITTEE.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, THERE'S GONNA BE A MOTION JUST FROM THAT, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE, HAVE A LOT OF PATRIOTISM BECAUSE I, I GET CHOKED UP SOMETIMES BECAUSE I THINK OF SACRIFICES JUST TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT I PERSONALLY KNOW AND KNEW AND, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, AND SO I'M SURE THERE'S MANY PEOPLE PROBABLY WILL FEEL THE SAME WAY.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO PROMOTE HOW GREAT A NATION WILL
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BLESSED TO LIVE.SO, AND I THINK THIS WILL DO A GOOD JOB AT PROMOTING THAT.
SO I TAKE IT WE'VE GOT APPROVAL AND SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUGGESTIONS EARLIER AND WENT BACK BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE GOT A BETTER PRODUCT.
ALSO WANT TO SAY QUICKLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT AT THE RE DEDICATION ON SUNDAY FROM THE COMMISSION'S PERSPECTIVE.
YOU'LL HAVE GREAT REPRESENTATION THERE.
APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS AT THAT.
SOME PEOPLE CAME TO THAT EVENT, SO GREAT THAT APPRECIATE YOU AND THANK FOR SCHEDULE AN AMAZING DAY FOR US.
I'M SORRY I COULDN'T BE THERE.
MY SON GRADUATED COLLEGE AND I DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WAS, WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL HAD GREAT REPRESENTATION.
HE WAS THE GRADUATION SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHERE THE PEOPLE STAND AND THEN THE CIRCLE IS ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET THAT THE SIZE OF SOME HOUSES.
THERE'S, WHEN YOU PUT IT IN RESPECT, IT'S LIKE, OH, THAT'S A SMALL SPACE.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE BECAUSE THE NEXT TOPIC, IF, IF WE HAVE YOU LONG ENOUGH HERE, IF NOT WE CAN DO THIS AT A, A FUTURE BRIEFING.
BUT I LOOKED, THIS TOPIC IS TALK ABOUT THE TEAR DOWN REBUILDS UNTIL WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, A FEW MEETINGS AGO, THE QUESTION OF THE SCALE AND THE LOCK COVERAGE AND SOME OF THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
AND SO TODD AND THE STAFF HAVE PUT TOGETHER, UH, FOCUSING IN ON METAL LAKE SUBDIVISION, TEAR DOWN REBUILDS AND, AND THE LOCK COVERAGE AND SO FORTH.
GOT SOME GRAPHICS AND WE'LL KIND OF TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS AND, UH, ANSWER QUESTIONS AND JUST GET A FEEL FOR, FOR THAT SITUATION.
CAN YOU, BEFORE YOU GET INTO, TELL US WHAT THE R TWO, BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL R TWO RIGHT? WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE SURE.
BEFORE WE LOOK AT SPECIFIC HOUSES SO WE KNOW.
SO ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS AR R ONE, R TWO, OSRD, WE REQUIRE A MAXIMUM OF 25% BUILDING COVERAGE.
SO THAT'S ANYTHING UNDER ROOF.
SO THAT'S THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE, THE ROOF, YOU KNOW THAT, THAT ROOF AREA, IT INCLUDES A DECK IF IT HAS A ROOF.
SO THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE, 25% ALL ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO ONE ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES, UH, GREEN SPACE AND THAT'S OSRD.
WITHIN OSRD, WE, WE REQUIRE 40% OF THE LOT TO BE GREEN.
SO THAT'S FREE OF, UH, SIDEWALKS, DRIVEWAYS, HOUSE FOOTPRINTS, POOLS.
THAT INCLUDES OR EXCLUDES SIZE.
THAT EXCLUDES, PARDON ME? 40% HAS TO BE TOTALLY UNBUILT UPON, UH, NO POOLS, NO, NO DRIVEWAYS, NO SIDEWALKS, NO EXTRA LARGE PATIO IN THE BACK.
SO THAT REQUIREMENT IS AN OSRD ONLY.
SO, UM, WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS, UH, MEADOW LAKE.
IT'S VERY POPULAR FOR THE TEAR DOWN REBUILDS.
UM, AND SO ACTUALLY ALLISON PUT THIS TOGETHER IN MY DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO SHE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OUTLINED LOTS ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN AND REBUILT.
AND THEN WE HAVE PERCENTAGES BY EACH, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT 52 18 AT THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S 24.8%.
IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE 25 MAX.
YEAH, BUT LOOK AT THE GREEN SPACE.
THEY'RE PROVIDING, THIS IS AN R TWO LOT AND THEY'RE PROVIDING 56% GREEN SPACE.
SO WHICH, WHICH ONE ON THE LEFT BOTTOM RIGHT HERE.
SO THEY'RE REAL CLOSE TO THE 25% MAXIMUM BUILDING AND, BUT THEY'RE STILL PROVIDING, UH, QUITE A BIT OF GREEN SPACE.
UM, AND THAT, THAT TENDS TO BE THE, THE AVERAGE IN THE TEAR DOWN REBUILDS.
UM, THIS ONE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AT 23%, UH, BUILDING COVERAGE, 57% GREEN SPACE PROVIDED.
SO THEN, SO THE GREEN SPACE DEFINITION IS THE SAME, YOU'RE USING THE SAME DEFINITION AS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OSR IN TERMS OF IT IS, THERE'S NOTHING ON, IT'S NOT REQUIRED IN R TWO, BUT THEY, YOU'RE USING THE SAME DEFINITION.
SO THE DRIVEWAY DOES NOT COUNT AS GREEN SPACE.
SO WHY DOES THAT NOT LOOK, I KNOW, I MEAN EVEN CERTAINLY ON YOUR OVER YOUR OVERHEAD IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT.
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YEAH.IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE 60%.
NO, IT CERTAINLY DOES YARD AND MOST OF IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CONCRETE.
I MEAN OVER 52, 31 LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT 70% BUILT.
I MEAN, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE THAT THAT'S 75% OPEN? WELL, WE, WE TOOK THIS OFF THE BUILDING PLANS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION SHOWING ALL IMPROVEMENTS ON THE LOT YEAH.
AND TODD HAVE SOME EL ELEVATION TYPE WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING INTO THE BUILDING.
AS YOU KNOW, MOST OF THESE, IF NOT ALL OF THEM ARE, ARE QUITE A BIT TALLER THAN THE HOME THAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
THAT CHANGES THE, THE VISUAL PERSPECTIVE.
HERE'S THE STREET VIEW OF A, A TEAR DOWN REBUILD AND THEN ONE OF THE RANCH HOMES NEXT DOOR THAT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED.
UM, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE HEIGHT OF COURSE, BUT WITH THE R TWO SETBACKS, THE SIDE SETBACKS IN R TWO ARE 20 FEET.
SO YOU'VE GOT 40 FEET BETWEEN HOUSES.
R TWO IS 40 FEET, YOU SAID 2020 ON YOUR SIDE SIDES.
SO IT'S NEVER CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL HOME TO THE NEW HOME.
YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME THING.
SO THE FOOTPRINT IS THE SAME, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, THE, THE BUILDABLE AREA IS THE SAME, BUT THE FOOTPRINT FOR THE, FOR THE REBUILD HOME IS LARGER, RIGHT? YEAH.
HOW DO YOU END UP WITH MORE SO MUCH GR GREEN SPACE? THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
THE FOOTPRINT IS SO MUCH BIGGER.
'CAUSE YOU LOOK LIKE YOU COULD ALMOST TOUCH YOUR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
I MEAN, ALL YOU DO IS RIDE THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK AT 'EM AND I KNOW THEY'RE CLOSER TOGETHER THAN THEY USED TO BE.
THEY USED TO HAVE THE 20 FEET YOU SAYING, YOU SAYING? YEAH.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT PEOPLE, PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS HOUSES WERE SO MUCH THEY, THEY, THEY WEREN'T BUTTED UP TO THE EDGE.
MOST OF, MOST OF THE ORIGINAL RANCH HOMES PROBABLY DID NOT GO ALL THE WAY TO THE 20.
SO IT JUST APPEARS, I KNOW THE LOT CONFIGURATION AND IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU'RE WALKING OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE AND IT'S A BRAND NEW, MUCH TALLER HOUSE LIKE WE'RE SHOWING HERE, IT'S GONNA FEEL CLOSER BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT.
SO, SO YOU HAVE BOTH THE FACTORS OF PERHAPS THE NEW HOUSE IS CLOSER TO THE SETBACK LINE THAN THE OLD HOUSE WAS.
AND WHEN IT'S SO LARGE THAT IMAGERY MAKES IT FEEL LIKE IT'S CLOSER AS WELL AND IT MAKES THAT FACE, THAT SPACE FEEL SMALLER.
I THINK THAT'S A PART OF IT, BUT I DON'T, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ARE THE ONES LIVING NEXT DOOR IS WHEN YOU'RE RIDING BY THE VISUAL, THEY'RE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
YOU SEE A GOOD BIT OF SPACE BETWEEN THE HOMES.
I MEAN, THERE'S ONE NEAR ME THAT I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE EVEN GONNA GET THE CAR IN THE YARD TO, TO GET IN THE GARAGE.
I MEAN, IT'S REALLY UNBELIEVABLE.
SO THE, THE, THE CONCERNS I'VE GOTTEN, I MEAN, VISUALS ONE THING, BUT LIKE I'VE GOT SOME FRIENDS WHO'VE BEEN IN MEADOW LAKE FOR 25 YEARS IN ONE OF THE ORIGINAL HOMES THAT NEVER FLOODED UNTIL UPSTREAM FROM 'EM.
SOME OF THESE LARGER HOMES WENT IN WITH BIG, YOU KNOW, BIG DRIVEWAYS AND BIG SLATE POOL DECKS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE GETTING WATER IN THE FIRST FLOOR OF THEIR HOUSE.
ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE.
SO JASON, CAN YOU TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE CHANGES ENGINEERING'S PROPOSING TO THE ORDINANCE TO HELP ADDRESS RUNOFF DRAINAGE? YES, UHOH.
I MEAN, AND WE ARE SEEING ALL, ALL THESE THAT WE COME AND REVIEW, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE SIDE LOT, YOU KNOW, SETBACK LIMITS THE HOUSES.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUS, RIGHT? AND THEN THE DRIVEWAYS ARE BIGGER.
EVERYBODY'S GOT A POOL THAT'S AS BIG AS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, USUALLY.
SO WHEN YOU ADD ALL THAT STUFF AHEAD, THERE ARE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE LIKE A 60% IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THESE ZONES.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE'LL BE INTRODUCED TO YOU GUYS, UH, AS AN INFILL REGULATIONS.
UH, AND IN OUR MINDS WHAT WHAT THAT WOULD HELP DO IS IT, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CHANGE THE PHYSICAL FOOTPRINT, BUT FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, IT WOULD BRING IT, SHRINK THAT FROM A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BACK TO THE EQUIVALENT SIZE OF WHAT WAS OUT THERE BEFORE.
SO IF YOU HAD A, YOU KNOW, SAY YOU HAVE A 7,000 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, AND ORIGINALLY IT WAS LIKE 2,500 SQUARE FOOT, WELL, WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO DO STUFF LIKE, UH, UH, MAYBE A, A RAIN GARDEN, MAYBE, UH, A MODIFIED, UH, INFILTRATION, UH, FRENCH DRAINS,
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OTHER METHODS TO HELP CONTROL THAT STORM WATER, UH, FROM THEIR, FROM THEIR HOUSE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND FROM THE PARKING AREAS.SO TRY TO INTRODUCE SOME INFILTRATION TO KEEP THE WATER ON THE LOTS AS BEST WE CAN.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO INTRODUCE YOU GUYS, UH, AS THE MEANS TO KIND OF, AGAIN, BRING BACK THAT EQUIVALENCY BACK DOWN TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, WAS TORN DOWN COMPARED TO WHAT'S BEING BUILT.
ONE THING AS STATICALLY, YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT WATER CAN DAMAGE YOU AND THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO CONCERN OURSELVES.
THAT'S A HUGE IMPACT ON YOUR DOWNSTREAM NEIGHBORS AND, AND OTHER, OTHER FOLKS.
I TO MENTION THE OVERALL, THE TIME, WHAT'S THE TIMING THAT, UH, I BELIEVE I HAD IT IN FRONT JUST A SECOND.
I THINK IT'S, UH, JUNE, THINK JUNE 6TH I THINK, OR WHAT IS THE FIRST, FIRST WEEK IN JUNE? SO THAT'LL BE COMING UP IN FRONT OF YOU PRETTY QUICKLY ACTUALLY.
THAT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THE TECHNICAL DESIGN NATURE AND THE STORM DRAINAGE NATURE AND ALL OF THAT.
THAT'S, WE'RE NOT LOOKING THAT AS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DISCUSSION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT AS, AS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR SOME TIME.
AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING TO YOU IN JUNE.
IT, IT BASICALLY INVOLVE A SEPARATE PERMIT, YOU KNOW, UH, AND ON TOP OF DISTRICT STANDARD GRADING PERMIT, JUST LIKE IF, IF A PROPERTY HAS A RETAINING WALL, WE HAVE A SEPARATE RETAINING WALL PERMIT, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT FOR AN INFILL PERMIT.
AND WHAT WOULD TRIGGER THE, THAT REQUIREMENT? SO, UH, SO KIND OF HOW WE'RE TRIGGERING IT IS WE HAVE A STORM WATER ORDINANCE THAT I THINK WAS ADOPTED LIKE 2010, SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
SO IF YOU'RE IN A SUBDIVISION THAT, THAT'S PRIOR TO 2010, WHEN THAT STORM WATER REGULATION WAS PUT IN, THEN THAT WOULD KIND OF MAKE YOU FALL WITHIN THIS INFILL, UH, REQUEST.
SO IF A, LIKE MEADOW LAKE SUBDIVISION WAS 60 SEVENTIES, WHENEVER THAT SUBDIVISION WAS PUT IN PLACE.
THERE, THERE ARE NO STORM WATER REGULATIONS, REGIONAL DETENTION FACILITIES, WATER QUALITY FACILITIES THAT MANAGE THAT SUBDIVISION.
UH, IF YOU WENT OUT TO ROSEBROOK, ROSEBROOK NEW SUBDIVISION HAS WATER QUALITY AND DETENTION THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ALL THE DRAINAGE OF THE, OF THE SUBDIVISION.
SO WE KIND OF WENT AND LOOKED AT, AT WHEN THAT DATE WAS, WHEN THAT STORM WATER ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY AND SAID, OKAY, BEFORE THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME AND DO THE INFILL, UM, PERMIT.
SO, BUT THE OLDER ONES WILL BEAM PROTECTED BECAUSE THEIR WARRANT IN MOST CASES.
WITHIN THAT INFILL, WE'VE SET UP TIERS BASICALLY BASED ON THE IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
SO TIER ONE, I FORGET WHAT THE EXACT EXPERT, WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL GO OVER THAT WITH YOU GUYS.
BUT, UH, THAT, THAT HAS, UH, A, A STANDARD SET OF QUALITY FROM A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT ON THE LOT, WHAT WE WOULD REQUIRE.
AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S KIND OF PROBABLY GONNA CAPTURE PROBABLY 60, 70% OF THE INFILL PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD SEE.
WE'D HAVE A TIER TWO THAT'S GETS ON UP OVER THAT TIER ONE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH IS GONNA REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING CALCULATIONS TO SHOW SUPPORT THE DESIGN THAT YOU'RE SUBMITTING.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A TIER THREE THAT'S GETTING CLOSE TO THAT TOTAL ONE ACRE DISTURBANCE.
AND ONCE WE GET INTO THAT ONE ACRE DISTURBANCE, THEN YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A STATE PERMIT NOTICE OF COVERAGE, AND WE GET REALLY INTO JUST A OVERALL GRADING PERMIT FOR THIS, UH, PROPERTY THAT'LL BE REQUIRED.
WE'LL GO OVER THOSE STAGES WITH YOU GUYS.
WE, WE'VE KIND OF, WE'VE KIND OF MODELED IT OFF OF METRO'S INFILL REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO BREAK THE TIERS UP INTO WHAT'S REALISTIC FOR BRENTLEY.
WELL, I WAS GETTING READY TO ASK YOU, WAS THERE TEMPLATE THIS SOMEWHERE BEFORE THIS? YES, MA'AM.
WELL, I LOVE HOW YOU'VE ADAPTED.
ALL THE, UH, EXISTING PERMITS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY PULLED THEIR PERMIT THREE MONTHS AGO, IT WON'T BE REQUIRED.
BUT ONCE WE PASS THIS, ANYTHING GOING FORWARD, THEY'LL HAVE TO DO IT.
UH, TO, AND Y'ALL MAY ALREADY BE NINE STEPS AHEAD.
SEEMS TO ME WE SHOULD PUT IN THERE, IF THERE'S AN EXISTING PROPERTY, LIKE THE ONE YOU SHOWED THAT HAD 15% OF THE BUILDING ENVELOPE AND 60% OF GREEN SPACE ON THE, THE FIRST DIAGRAM, IF THEY COME BACK AND DO WANT TO PUT A BIG SWIMMING POOL IN OR MAKE THE PATIO EXTENDED, YOU KNOW, 40 BY 40, SHOULD THEY BE REQUIRED MM-HMM
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UNDER THAT AS WELL.THAT TIER ONE IS IT, IT TRIPS WHENEVER YOU EXCEED THE 800 SQUARE FOOT FOR SUBSTANTIAL REBUILD.
SO AS SOON AS YOU GO OVER 800 SQUARE FOOT, YOU'RE GONNA BE IN THAT INITIAL TIER.
SO THERE'LL HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT, AND, AND WHEN I SAY SOMETHING, WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP BASICALLY JUST A, A, I DON'T WANT TO SAY A COOKIE CUTTER GUIDE, BUT BASICALLY A GUIDE OF, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO IN TIER ONE.
YOU CAN DO A RAIN GARDEN, YOU COULD DO MODIFIED FRENCH DRAINS, YOU CAN DO WATER QUALITY SWELLS, AND IT'LL, IT'LL, WE WILL HAVE JUST A, A CHART THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO, OKAY, THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE I'VE GOT.
THIS IS HOW MANY FEET OF, UH, MODIFIED FRENCH DRAIN I NEED.
THIS IS HOW BIG OF A RAIN GARDEN I NEED.
SO IT'S PRETTY SIMPLISTIC APPROACH.
UM, ONCE YOU GET INTO THE TIER TWO IS WHEN YOU WOULD NEED THAT ENGINEERING DESIGN.
SO JASON, THAT MEANS THAT IT'S NOT JUST A HOUSE, HOUSE NEW HOME PERMIT THAT THAT COULD TRIGGER THAT IT'D BE ANY HARD SCALE.
ONCE YOU GET THE THRESHOLD, IT COULD GET YOU INTO WHICHEVER TIER YES.
AND WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS ARE RELATED TO IT.
WE TAG WE'RE TRYING TO TAG IT BACK TO THE, TO THE SUBSTANTIAL REBUILD DEFINITION WITHIN S CORRECT FEET.
SO YOU CAN'T CUT OUT TWO FEET OF PAVING AND MOVE BACK A HERE, CAN YOU? I MEAN, WELL, I MEAN, WE'LL I SURE SOMEBODY LOOKING FOR IT.
WE'LL BE DOING OUR REVIEWS AND WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A FEW SCENARIOS, UH, LIKE THAT, SO YES, I UNDERSTAND.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I MEAN, SO LIKE WE'VE GOT GRAINAGE DITCHES NOT UNDER, NOT NOT STORM SEWERS IN A LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS MM-HMM
AND WE'RE, AND GRAINAGE DITCHES ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THEY'RE PRETTY EASY TO OBSERVE.
AND WE'VE ALREADY GOT PROBLEMS WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF 'EM IN TERMS OF FILLING IN, PLANTING IN.
'EM HAD THAT ONE GUY, IT WAS IT LAST SUMMER THAT FILLED HIS WHOLE DITCH UP
JUST, AND JUST PLANTED A GRASS ORDER, LITTLE SALTY.
AND WE TOLD HIM, NO, YOU GOTTA PUT THAT BACK.
WHAT KEEPS SOMEONE FROM LIKE HAVING A RAIN GARDEN FOR INSPECTION AND TWO YEARS LATER, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S GONE.
OR FOR DRAINS TAKE SOME MAINTENANCE.
I MEAN, HOW DO, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS DURABLE AS PART OF THIS? YOU, YOU WILL HAVE, OR YOU AS PROPERTY OWNER WILL HAVE TO, UH, BASICALLY, UH, RECORD, UH, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT AN EASEMENT, BUT IT WOULD BE A A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO, JUST LIKE, FOR OUR SUBDIVISIONS, WE HAVE MAINTENANCE, STORMWATER MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS.
THAT HAVE TO BE RECORDED WITH THAT SUBDIVISION.
INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HAVE TO RECORD THAT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
IT'S KINDA LIKE THOSE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, RIGHT? THEY'RE RECORDING.
UH, YOU TALKING ABOUT IRRIGATION? YEAH, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE RECORDED.
I DON'T, DON'T MEAN WE KNOW, BUT YOU HAVE TO PULL A PERMIT FOR THOSE.
SO, SO HOW'S IT OR HOW'S IT WELL, YOU WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FILL OUR WAY THROUGH THAT.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE, OUR THOUGHTS ARE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HAVE TO, TO MAINTAIN THEIR STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS.
AND, UH, WE RIGHT NOW WE WERE, WE WERE HOPING THAT WE COULD GET KIND OF A VOLUNTARY, UM, UH, ANNUAL INSPECTION SUBMISSION THAT WE HAD.
WE, WE, WE HAVE A, WITHIN OUR MS FOUR, WE HAVE A WAY TO, FOR SUBDIVISIONS TO SUBMIT THEIR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS TO US.
SO IF THAT'S A, A MECHANISM TO WHERE WE CAN GET VOLUNTARY SUBMISSION OF THAT, SEE HOW THAT GOES INITIALLY, WE'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO, WITH THIS INFILL PERMIT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THESE WITHIN OUR GIS SYSTEM AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO CHECKS.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE OUR, UH, INSPECTORS GO OUT AND CHECK PERIODICALLY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN CONFORMANCE.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE TO WHERE WE'RE SATISFYING THE MAINTENANCE ASPECT OF IT, BUT NO, NOT OVERBURDENING THE CITY OF HAVING TO YEAH.
WELL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I'M ASKING BECAUSE THIS STUFF'S ONLY AS GOOD, IS IT'S SIMPLE, BUT ALSO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, FULL-TIME RAIN GUARD INSPECTOR.
THERE'S A BALANCE IN THERE SOMEWHERE.
AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO, TO GIVE PRIVATE PROPERTY, RIGHT? PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY, BUT IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BAD EFFECT ON THEIR NEIGHBORS.
SO ALONG THOSE LINES, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAIR A QUESTION THIS IS.
I KNOW CHRISTIAN'S HIDING IN THE BACK ROW,
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PROBLEM? YEAH.BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE IS THERE, I WOULD ASSUME SINCE, I MEAN WE'RE ADOPTING IT WITHIN OUR STORM WATER, UH, ORDINANCE AND REGULATIONS, THAT IT WOULD FALL WITHIN, IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF OUR STORM WATER REGULATIONS, THEN YOU WOULD BE GIVEN A NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS TO MAKE CORRECTIONS.
AND THEN AT SOME POINT, IF IT PROGRESSED TO HAVING TO HAVE FINES, YOU KNOW, IT COULD PROGRESS TO THAT.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SOMEONE'S HOUSE FLOODED, IF THEY'D LOOK AT THEIR NEIGHBORS UPSTREAM AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE ALL DONE HERE? JUST MAKING IT WOULD BE A PRIVATE CAUSE OF ACTION.
BUT THEY CERTAINLY COULD, AND THEN THEY COULD POINT TO SHOWING WHATEVER ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS WE'VE TAKEN AS, AS PART OF THEIR EVIDENCE.
SO, SO IN THAT, THAT WOULD BE AN EDUCATIONAL RULE ON OUR PART TO SAY, HEY, THESE, THESE RULES ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW 'EM, YOU'RE, IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THE INSURANCE COMPANY, HE'S GONNA COVER THE HOUSE THAT FLOODED OR DAMAGED OR WHATEVER.
THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONES TO GO, LOOK, THIS WOULD, THIS WAS THE CAUSATION OF THIS.
SO THAT WOULD, YOU WOULD CARRY A LOT OF LIABILITY THERE.
J JASON, REAL QUICK WITH THAT IS THERE, IS THERE A MEANS, AND MAYBE THIS IS PROBABLY BEYOND WHERE, WHERE YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IT SO FAR, BUT THE IDEA OF EDUCATING THE HOMEOWNER IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE ONCE IT'S TURNED OVER TO THE HOMEOWNER, I MEAN, YOU GO INTO A NEW HOME, IF IT'S A LARGE HOME LIKE THAT, YOU'RE PROBABLY HAVING TROUBLE JUST COUNTING THE DOORS YOU HAVE TO WALK AT NIGHT, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU'RE GETTING USED TO ALL THESE THINGS.
AND THE LAST THING THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OR THINKING ABOUT IS WHERE MY STORM WATER GOES UNDERNEATH THE GROUND.
SO I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY, PERHAPS THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER SOME EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION AND FIGURE OUT A CONDUIT THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH OUR PERMITTING PROCESS AND, AND IT ENDS UP IN THE HOMEOWNER'S HANDS THAT HELPS THEM UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITY, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, PERHAPS THE TYPE OF FOLKS THEY NEED TO USE TO HELP THEM DO THAT.
AND THAT'S A, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT'S HELPED US WRITE THE, THE INFILL ORDINANCE.
UM, THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROCESS.
WE CAN, WE CAN TALK THEM AND SEE WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE IS LIKE.
UM, I KNOW WE HAVE AN EDUCATE, UH, AN EDUCATION COMPONENT WITHIN OUR MS FOUR, SO I THINK IT COULD BE EASILY INCORPORATED INTO THAT.
UM, IT, IT'S GOING TO BE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR US AND FOR THE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT I THINK A REALLY GOOD TOOL IS, AGAIN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THESE WITH THE PERMIT WITHIN OUR GIS SYSTEM.
SO I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN EASILY TRACK, UH, IF, IF, IF A PROPERTY OWNER CALLS AND SAYS, I HAVE AN ISSUE, WE CAN GO TRACK AND SEE, WELL, IS IT, IS IT A RESULT OF THE, OF THE, UH, INFILL IMPROVEMENT THAT, THAT WAS PUT ON THIS PROPERTY? I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD SOURCE, I GUESS.
SO OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS PRETTY, WELL GET TO THE CRUX OF THE CONCERN.
SO PLACES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY IN A SUBDIVISION, I MEAN, IT IT APPLIES TO ANY HOME, ANYWHERE IN THE CITY THAT FALLS UNDER THE CRITERIA.
IF YOU HAVE A, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE JUST A PARCEL OUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE SUBDIVISION.
IF, IF YOU, IT WENT, IF YOU PUT A HOUSE ON THAT, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE INTO THAT TIER.
AND SO WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT ON THIS IN JUNE.
TENTATIVELY JUNE IS IF WE EXPECT TO HAVE, I'M JUST THINKING OF THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT ARE FOR SALE RIGHT NOW.
JUST A LOT OF OLDER HOUSES THAT ONE DOWN.
SO, SO THAT THEY DON'T ALL SLIP IN.