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[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing February 19, 2026 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the February 23rd Agenda, the items below will be discussed: Ordinance for Miracle Field Rezoning Discussion of Williamson County Resolution 2026-20 Discussion of NES Board Membership Orientation for City Commissioners This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
FEBRUARY 23RD IS A PRE LIGHT AGENDA.WE WILL HAVE THE OATH OF OFFICE FOR A POLICE OFFICER AND A COUPLE VIDEO PRESENTATIONS.
ONE FROM BRENTWOOD HIGH ON E-BIKES AND THE OTHER FROM YOUTH LEADERSHIP, BRENTWOOD ON E-BIKES ON A PROJECT PRESENTATION.
WE REALLY JUST HAVE TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST ITEM IS A RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZES AN AMENDMENT TO OUR EXISTING EMPLOYER AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE STATE OF TENNESSEE, UH, DEFERRED COMPENSATION PLAN, UH, AND WHICH IS PART OF OUR RETIREMENT, UH, PLAN WITH THE STATE OF TENNESSEE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S BECAUSE OF ME, UH, BECAUSE UNDER THE, UNDER THE, UH, THE WAY WE'RE STRUCTURED TODAY, THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION OF MATCHING BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY'RE, THEIR DEFERRED COMP AND 401K AND ALL THAT WORKS.
BUT, UH, IN MY AGREEMENT THAT YOU GUYS APPROVE, THERE IS A DIRECT CONTRIBUTION, UH, AND THAT PORTION IS A NON MATCH.
AND SO THERE HAS TO BE A PLAN AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE FOR THAT.
SO APOLOGIZE FOR EXTRA WORK ON THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM IS THE, UH, UH, FINAL READING ON THE, UH, UH, PERSONAL WIRELESS SERVICE FACILITIES OR THE CELL TOWER, UH, ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
AND, UH, TO DATE, AS YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T HAVE, UH, AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE THERE, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIDN'T EITHER.
NOW WE DO ANTICIPATE, EVEN IF THAT'S APPROVED, THAT ONCE WE GET AN APPLICATION, IT WILL DRAW SOME ATTENTION.
SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL EXPECT THAT.
BUT IT'S BEEN VERY POSITIVE DATE AND UH, AND I WOULD NEVER, EVER, EVER WISH FOR AN ICE STORM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT IS ONE EXAMPLE THAT SHOWED A WEATHER EXAMPLE THAT SHOWED WHY WIRELESS COMMUNICATION NOWADAYS IS, IS PRIORITY CRITICAL.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE, SOME LIKE WE HAVE EVEN YEARS AGO, GOT RID OF OUR LANDLINES.
SO FOR ANY KIND OF, EVEN NOT EMERGENCY CALLING LIKE POLICE OR FIRE, BUT EVEN IN A FAMILY EMERGENCY, YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO REACH PEOPLE.
BUT LIKE WHEN, UH, WHEN WE LOST POWER AT THE HOUSE, WE LOST OUR WIFI NETWORK.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY OUR PHONES WORK.
AND THEN YOU RELY ON IT FOR SURE.
AND LANDLINES AREN'T WHAT THEY USED TO BE.
I MEAN, BECAUSE WHEN THE INTERNET GOES OUT, OUR LANDLINE WOULD ALWAYS GO OUT.
YOU KNOW, WE ONLY KEEPING IT FOR EMERGENCIES, RIGHT? THAT WAS US.
OR LIKE ALARM SYSTEMS OR WHATEVER.
THEY GOT TO WHERE THEY DO THE ALARM SYSTEM'S DIFFERENT AND WE'RE LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T NEED A, WELL, NOPE.
THEY HAD THAT BUNDLE SYSTEM FOR A WHILE TOO, WHERE IF YOU KEPT YOUR LANDLINE, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A PHONE HOOKED UP TO IT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO CHANGES IN THE, IN THE AMENDMENT.
WE'LL GO AHEAD, GET THROUGH THE SAME PRESENTATION YOU'VE SEEN ABOUT THREE TIMES.
UM, WE DO WANT TO, UH, GO ON OUT.
THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM FOR THAT.
UH, FOR THE UPCOMING AGENDA, THE ONLY TWO ITEMS. SO PRETTY SHORT AGENDA WE DO WANT, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET ON, UH, MARCH 5TH, I BELIEVE.
UM, WE DO WANT TO QUICKLY COVER AN ORDINANCE.
IT'LL BE A LIGHT AGENDA AS WELL, BUT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR A REZONING FOR, UH, MIRACLE FIELD, SOME OF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE MIRACLE FIELD.
UH, BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR TWO RESOLUTIONS REAL QUICK.
AND SO, UH, THIS IS OUT, YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, IT'S ALMOST TO THE VERY WESTERN EDGE OF TOWN OFF OF OLD HICKORY AND JUST SOUTH OF OLD HICKORY.
AND, UH, I'M GOING TO SEE IF MY POINTER, WE HAVE ANOTHER MAP, BUT, UM, IT'S RIGHT DOWN IN THIS LITTLE ORANGE BOX RIGHT HERE.
SO THE CITY LIMIT LINE IS SOMEWHERE ABOUT RIGHT IN HERE.
SO THE, THE CHURCH AREA NORTH IS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, BUT THE AREA IN QUESTION IS OBVIOUSLY INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO CREATE A MIRACLE FIELD.
ARE THOSE TWO EXISTING FIELDS RIGHT THERE? THEY ARE, YES.
BECAUSE I WENT OUT THERE AND LOOKED AND I COULDN'T GET ORIENTED YEAH.
IT'S, YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO DO THAT THERE.
UM, AND THIS IS AT, UH, IT'S AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PARCEL THAT'S LOCATED THAT THE ADDRESS TECHNICALLY IS 2 0 0 1 SHAMROCK DRIVE.
IT'S OWNED BY THE ADJACENT HARPETH HILLS CHURCH.
AND AGAIN, IT'S SPLIT BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY, DAVIDSON COUNTY LINE WITH ABOUT A ONE AND A THIRD ACRES OF THE 2.43 ACRES BEING IN, IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY WITHIN BRENTWOOD.
AND SO THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD PORTION FROM R TWO TO SERVICE INSTITUTIONAL ONE.
SO THE CHURCH BUILD THE MIRACLE FIELD, UH, THE EXISTING HOUSE AND THERE'S TWO BALL FIELDS WILL BE REMOVED WHEN THE MIRACLE FIELD IS CONSTRUCTED.
THIS, THIS ONE GIVES YOU ANOTHER IDEA ABOUT HOW THIS ONE WILL BE.
THE NEXT ONE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, UM, AGAIN SHOWN RIGHT HERE.
THE, THE COLORED AREA IS THE CITY LIMITS OF ROCKWOOD.
THAT THIS ONE PROBABLY DOESN'T HELP YOU A WHOLE LOT, BUT LET ME GO.
SORT OF A, A BASIC SITE DRAWING OF, UH, WHAT THAT
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WOULD LOOK LIKE RIGHT DOWN IN HERE.YEAH, BASICALLY IT'S JUST TO THE, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE.
IT JUST COMES OFF THIS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE AND GOES BACK INTO HERE AND THEN IT COME BACK.
SO THAT'S THE WILDWOOD DRIVE RIGHT THERE WHERE THE POINTER IS.
SO IF YOU COME DOWN WILDWOOD DRIVE, IT'S YOUR FIRST BIG RIGHT TURN MOLD, HICKORY AND A WILDWOOD TURN.
THAT'S, THAT'S BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BRIDGE, ISN'T IT? IS THAT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BRIDGE? IS IT? YEAH, IT IS.
UM, THIS IS A FLOOD PLAIN MAP.
THE, UH, CROSSING THE LIGHT, THE, THE MORE THE YELLOWISH IS THE 500 YEAR.
THE DARKER ORANGE IS THE 100 YEAR.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THE, ANY STRUCTURAL TYPE ELEMENTS WILL HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE 100 YEAR.
RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO CONCERN WITH THAT BASED ON LOCATION.
IF THERE'S EVER A CHANGE THERE, WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT A CONCERN AT ALL.
SO YOU SAID THEY'RE GONNA GET RID OF THE EXISTING FIELD THAT ARE THEY'RE PUTTING IT WHERE THE EXISTING FIELD IS? YEAH.
TWO FIELDS AND A HOUSE I BELIEVE IS DOWN IN THERE.
AND THEY'LL, AND THEY WILL, UH, REPLACE IT WITH THE MIRACLE FIELD AND THE SITE.
AND THIS, HERE'S SOME RENDERINGS YOU MIGHT FIND INTERESTING THERE AS WELL.
IT'S KIND OF NICE ENTRANCE TO IT.
UH, THIS IS A MUSIC CITY, WHICH IS KIND OF COOL, JUST, UH, KIND OF TYPICAL LITTLE PLAYGROUND AREA.
IT COULD CHANGE, BUT THESE ARE CURRENT RENDERINGS.
FIELD ITSELF, NO LIGHTS IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
IS THAT CORRECT, TODD? PROPOSING LIGHTS.
SO THAT'LL BE A QUESTION IN THE PROCESS THEN.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE THE BRIEFING BEFORE.
THIS IS, UH, OUT THERE FIRST ON YOUR AGENDA.
AND THEN OF COURSE IT'LL GO FROM YOUR AGENDA AND THEN EVENTUALLY IT'LL GO AFTER THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
YOU'LL GET IT BACK AFTER THAT.
ARE THE BRA FIELDS OWNED AND RUN BY THE CHURCH? AND IS MIRACLE FIELD PART OF THE CHURCH'S MINISTRY OR IS THAT A SEPARATE GROUP? AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S A SEPARATE GROUP.
THAT HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE CHURCH.
AND THE EXISTING BALL FIELDS ARE AT THE CHURCH.
AND SO JUST THE TWO? JUST THE TWO BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE ANOTHER THREE YES.
THERE'S SOME MORE TO THE EAST IF IT'S SEPARATE, BUT CONNECTED.
IS IT TAX EXEMPT? BUT IT'S A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
I MEAN, I ALWAYS, I THINK IT'S A NON-PROFIT.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
BUT I WOULD WANT TO KNOW A LOT ABOUT, UH, THE PART THAT'S IN BRENTWOOD, WHAT ENTRANCES AND EXITS ARE GONNA BE IN THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS, YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT THIS TO TRACK MUCH TRAFFIC AT ALL.
UM, YOU WON'T SEE ACTIVITIES THERE.
WELL, YOU DON'T SEE SCHEDULED ACTIVITIES VERY OFTEN AT THESE.
AND DONNA, YOU PROBABLY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, BUT IT'S NOT VERY MANY TIMES A YEAR AND YOU JUST REALLY DON'T, THEY DON'T, IT'S NOT A BIG CROWD TYPE OF THING.
THERE, THERE WILL BE SOME FOLKS THERE, BUT IT'S NOT A REGULAR TYPE THING.
IF YOU, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE AERIAL.
WHICH ONE? WHICH WELL, RIGHT THERE.
SO IF YOU SEE, YES, YOU SEE THE ORANGE, THAT'S THE PORTION IN BRENTWOOD.
THEY'RE PROPOSING THE REZONING.
YOU SEE THE TWO, UH, ADDITIONAL BALL FIELDS TO THE EAST OF THAT WHICH YOU'RE STAYING.
UM, THERE'S ALREADY PARKING FOR THE CHURCH OFF OF SHAMROCK THERE, JUST NORTH OF THAT, UH, EASTER EASTERLY, UH, BALL FIELD.
UM, THE PRIMARY PRINCIPAL ENTRANCE TO THE MIRACLE FIELD IS GONNA BE FROM OLD HICKORY.
BUT IT CAN ALSO BE ACCESSED, UM, THROUGH SHAMROCK.
AND THAT'S ON THE DAVIDSON COUNTY SIDE.
RIGHT? SO TODD IS, IS, THIS IS CORRECT.
IT, IT SORT OF WINDS UP NORTH TO THE FIELD TO THROUGH THE PARKING, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
SO YOU REALLY HAVE ACCESS HERE AND THEN OVER TO HERE.
DO WE KNOW ULTIMATELY WHO HAS CONTROL? IT SAYS LIKE SINCE THE THE ORGANIZATION IS PARTNERING WITH THE CHURCH, UH, DOES THE CHURCH HAVE THE PRIMARY CONTROL OF THAT PLOT? RIGHT NOW? THE CHURCH OWNS IT.
ARE THEY SELLING OR LEASING IT? I, NO, THE CHURCH WILL CONTINUE TO OWN IT.
SO ULTIMATELY THE CHURCH IS IN CONTROL OF IT, SO CORRECT.
WE MAKE IT SI IS IN LINE WITH THE ECCLESIASTICAL PROPERTY, TODD, UM, LIGHTING AND THAT TYPE OF THING FOR THE BALL FIELDS.
I PRESUME IF THEY WANT THIS REZONING, THEY'LL BRING THAT INFORMATION TO OUR MEETING.
I WILL, I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
A SITE FACTOR THAT WE WOULD YOU NEED TO EVALUATE.
AND ARE THESE NOT USED FOR LIKE LEAGUE PLAY? 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF COMMISSIONER DUNN'S QUESTION ABOUT TRAFFIC AND STUFF.
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THIS NOT USED FOR LEAGUE PLAY? I, I'M NOT SURE.DO YOU KNOW HOW THE CHURCH USES THEIR CURRENT FIELD, EXISTING FIELDS? I KNOW THEY'RE USED QUITE A BIT OF THE EXISTING FIELDS, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE MIRACLE FIELD WILL NOT BE USED THAT WAY.
NO, IT'S NOT SET UP FOR LEAGUE PLAY.
THAT JUST SEEMS ODD GIVEN THAT THEY'RE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE FACILITIES.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU BUILD TO A FACILITY THAT EXPENSIVE.
IT'D BE A REGIONAL FACILITY THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED A LOT.
I I WOULD IMAGINE THOUGH THAT THE LEAGUE IS VERY LIKE, THEY WOULDN'T USE, IT WOULDN'T BE NON, UM, DIFFERENTLY ENABLED CHILDREN PLAY THERE.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD JUST BE FOR THAT.
BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR, UH, JUST REGULAR LEAGUES.
'CAUSE I WOULDN'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW.
I'VE NEVER BEEN TO ONE AND I THINK AT LEAST ONE OR TWO OF THOSE FIELDS, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONES WHEN I WENT OUT THERE ARE REALLY NICELY KEPT UP KIND OF PROFESSIONAL.
AND THEN I THINK THE TWO THEY'RE GONNA GET RID OF ARE JUST MORE DIRT LOTS.
WE HAD ONE IN SPRINGFIELD AND, AND UH, IT WAS DEDICATED JUST TO THE MIRACLE FIELD.
AND ORGANIZATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
IT WASN'T USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR SURE HERE, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S THE SAME.
IS IS THERE A, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE WAS A VANDERBILT PLAYER THAT BUILT ONE.
DAVID, WHAT WAS DAVID'S NAME? PRICE.
HE BUILT, IS THERE A, IS THERE AN ATHLETE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS? A BIG NAME OR ANYTHING? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
BECAUSE OF MUSIC CITY MIRACLE.
IT SEEMS LIKE A TYSON PLAYER MIGHT BE A LOT.
NO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
THIS MAY FLY THROUGH, BUT KNOWING BRENTWOOD, A LOT OF PEOPLE, NO MATTER HOW NICE THE FACILITY IS, ARE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT LIVING NEAR SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA ATTRACT LOTS OF FOLKS.
SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GET ALL THE ANSWERS BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING.
THE, WE MAY LIKE THE ANSWER SIDE, THIS PICTURE, UM, AND I BELIEVE TO THE LEFT, WHICH WOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT TO THE WEST, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ANY HOUSES THAT WAY.
CORRECT? OR JASON, IF YOU GO TO ZONING THE SYNAGOGUE, SO YEAH, IT'S CONGREGATION MICA.
SO THE BLUE, THE BLUE IS CONGREGATION MICA.
SO IT SURROUNDS IT ON ONE, TWO SIDES AND THEN TO THE EAST.
UM, THE, THE CHURCH ALSO OWNS THE PARCEL WHERE THOSE TWO BALL FIELDS ARE THAT ARE STAYING.
AND WE ACTUALLY, UH, IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL AND WE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THAT THAT STAY YEAH.
ZONED THAT WAY TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER TO THE HOUSES FURTHER EAST.
SO TODD, THESE HOUSES JUST TO THE RIGHT OF MY LINE ARE NEAREST HOMES, RIGHT? YES.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY, WELL, IT'S REALLY SUITED AT A PRETTY GOOD LOCATION.
NOT TO BE OH, I'M SORRY, SOME LIGHTING PERSPECTIVE NOT TO BE A PROPERTY.
IS THAT LIKE 200 FEET ESTIMATING? CORRECT.
75 FEET, LIKE FROM THE, THE, THE PROPERTY LINEUP WHERE THEY ACTUALLY DO HOUSE HOUSES AND WHERE THAT MIRACLE FIELD WILL BE, I WOULD SAY CLOSE.
SO THERE THE OTHER FIELDS, YES.
I WOULD SAY AT LEAST 200, PROBABLY ONE 50 ON THE SOUTH END.
THE OTHER FIELDS ARE IN THE WAY.
SO YEAH, THAT'S THE OTHER FIELDS.
AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THE, THE HOUSING STARTS.
SO THE OTHER FIELDS WILL BE BETWEEN, BETWEEN, YEAH.
ARE THEY TAKING DOWN THAT OLD WHITE HOUSE THAT'S ALL COVERED WITH BRUSH AND DEBRIS? IS THAT THE HOUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT IN THE, IN THE LINE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT COLOR IT IS, BUT IT IS THE HOUSE THAT IS JUST, JUST NORTH OF THE, IT'S WHERE THE.IS.
IT'S, IT'S ON THE TWO ACRE LOT.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE.
YOU, YOU SEE THE YELLOW DOT? YEAH.
THE YELLOW DOT JUST ABOVE RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S THE HOUSE THAT'S BEING REMOVED.
TODD, I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION, BUT JUST TO BE ABSOLUTELY SURE.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE NOT REALLY THINKING ABOUT PUTTING TRAFFIC ONTO WILDWOOD VALLEY DRIVE TO GET IN AND OUT.
THEY'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT COMING IN AND OUT THROUGH THE EXISTING CURB CUTS ON OLD HICKORY FOR THE CHURCH.
THAT IS, ACCORDING TO THEM, THAT IS THE PRINCIPLE ENTRANCE TO THE MIRACLE FIELD PRIMARY ENTRANCE.
SO, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD BLOCK THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD BLOCK THE PUBLIC STREET.
YOU KNOW, IT'D PROBABLY A SAFETY PROBLEM.
BUT, UH, BUT THE, BUT THE INTENTION ISN'T TO PUT TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE TR THE INTENTIONS TO PUT TRAFFIC THROUGH THE CHURCH PARKING LOT WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE TRAFFIC.
THE PLANTS SHOULD REFLECT THAT WHEN WE SEE 'EM THEN.
AND I THINK THEY SHOWED ON ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS UP THERE, A NEW PARKING LOT NORTH OF THE MIRACLE FIELD.
SO IT LOOKS, LOOKED LIKE THE CHURCH IS ACTUALLY ADDING PARKING.
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WE CAN UTILIZE THE FACILITYBUT YEAH, SO AN ADDITIONAL PARKING LOT, WHICH DOES BODE WELL.
'CAUSE IT'S OPPOSITE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT ALSO SHOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
THE CHURCH MAY BE BUILDING THE EXTRA PARKING LOT 'CAUSE OF CAPACITY.
CHURCH IS PRETTY COMPLIMENTARY.
WHEN THEY'RE NOT THE PLAYGROUND MAY MORE USE THAN THE MIRACLE FIELD.
SO
SO YOU HAVE, UH, YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU BROUGHT YOUR RESOLUTIONS WITH YOU, BUT, UH, WE, I SENT OUT A COUPLE OF THE DRAFT RESOLUTIONS, SO WE WANT TO COVER THOSE REAL QUICK IF WE CAN, AND MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
UM, THE FIRST IS, UH, RELATES TO THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY RESOLUTION, UH, 2 26 20 THAT WE PASSED OUT SOME TIME AGO, WHICH IS AN ADVOCACY RESOLUTION TO CERTAIN STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT SAYS, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO CHANGE STATE LAW THAT DEALS WITH GROWTH AND ANNEXATION.
AND IN ESSENCE, UH, IN THE END WOULD ALLOW FOR THE COUNTIES TO, UH, HAVE A SAY ON WHETHER THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY ANNEX PROPERTY WITHIN OUR, UH, URBAN GROWTH, UH, BOUNDARY.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, SO THIS RESOLUTION IS, I, I THINK CHRIS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB.
IT'S A VERY, VERY POLITE WAY OF SAYING COLLABORATION, COLLABORATION, COLLABORATION SHOULDN'T BE GOING AROUND.
AND THE PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN THOUGHTS OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND THEIR IMPACTS, AND WE RECOGNIZE ALL THAT.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE IS, IS THAT CITIES AND COUNTIES BOTH HAVE A PARTICULAR ROLE WHERE BOTH CHILDREN OF THE STATE, WE BOTH HAVE PARTICULAR ROLES.
SOME OF THOSE ROLES ARE SIMILAR IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
SOME OF 'EM ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT WE'RE EXPECTED TO WORK COLLECTIVELY AND COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER AND TO COMPLIMENT THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO THE CITIZENS.
NEITHER ENTITY CURRENTLY HAS AUTHORITY OVER THE OTHER ENTITY.
THIS WOULD DISRUPT THAT LEGAL AUTHORITY.
AND IN THIS, AT LEAST IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WOULD GRANT LEGAL AUTHORITY OF THE COUNTY OVER THE CITY IF, IF IT HAPPENED.
NOW, AGAIN, WHETHER THIS WOULD HAPPEN AT THE STATE HOUSE, PROB AT THIS POINT, PROBABLY NOT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, SO THIS WAS, UH, WE, I'D SENT THIS OUT AND UH, WE THOUGHT IF YOU, IF YOU SHOULD CHOOSE, WE KNOW THAT THE CITY OF FRANKLIN, UH, WE STARTED, KINDA SHOWED YOU THEIR DRAFT.
OURS IS, IS MODIFIED A LITTLE BIT.
THEIRS WILL BE MODIFIED FROM THE DRAFT AS WELL.
AND, UH, THEY'RE GONNA NICE, NICE IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
BUT, UH, UH, AND OURS IS ALREADY LIKE THAT.
AND SO BASICALLY IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT FORMALLY SAYS WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE COUNTY RESOLUTION.
UM, AND WE BELIEVE IN BRINGING THE QUESTION BACK TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY COMMITTEE, UH, IN THE SAME WAY THAT OUR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS AND POLICIES AND SO FORTH WERE PUT TOGETHER BETWEEN OR AMONG CITIES IN THE COUNTY YEARS AGO.
IF IT'S A BIG ENOUGH QUESTION TODAY, BRING IT BACK AND LET'S HAVE THE, THE AFFECTED ENTITIES DEAL WITH IT.
DON'T GO AROUND THE ENTITIES AND GO STRAIGHT TO THE LEGISLATURE FOR AN ACTION THAT WOULD DISRUPT THE LEGAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CITIES AND COUNTY.
IN ESSENCE, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.
SO THE QUESTION FOR YOU IS, IS ONE, DO YOU EVEN WISH TO HAVE A RESOLUTION? IF SO, WE CAN PUT IT ON YOUR AGENDA.
IF NOT, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T DO THAT IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT
I THINK IT'S A REAL POLITE WAY TO SAY STAY IN YOUR LANE
AND SO I, I WOULD LIKE A RESOLUTION.
I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE UGLY.
BUT YOU KNOW, KRISTEN DOESN'T WRITE UGLY.
OH, I CAN'T, I HAVEN'T SEEN HER POISON IN LETTER YET.
BUT, BUT, BUT THIS IS NOT UGLY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY PROFESSIONALLY DONE FOR YOU.
IT IS, I THINK REFLECTS VERY GOOD JOB THE WAY YOU'D LIKE TO QUESTION.
I NOTICED THE TYPO THAT I HAVE SINCE FIXED.
WELL, THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S A DRAFT, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, ON THE, UH, A WILLIAMSON COUNTY ONE? YES.
I DON'T KNOW IF IN OUR RESOLUTION IT GETS TOO DOWN IN THE WEEDS TO MENTION.
THAT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
I DID ADD THAT THE COUNTY AND THE CITIES MM-HMM
EXCEPT THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP.
SO WE HAVE THAT IN THERE ALREADY.
I THINK I MADE THREE WHEREASES ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I WAS HONESTLY SO IRRITATED ABOUT THAT.
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ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WANNA DO THIS RESOLUTION.AND I AGREE THAT I DO WANNA MAKE A AN OBSERVATION FOR Y'ALL.
I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO GO DOWN FOR THE VISIT TO THE HILL THE OTHER DAY AND MET WITH THE STATE, UM, DELEGATION.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BUSINESS PEOPLE AND PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTY AND FROM THE CITIES.
AND THE POINT THAT SOMEONE MADE THAT THOUGHT WAS REALLY, AND I I CAN'T DO HIM JUSTICE IN, IN TERMS OF REPEATING IT, BUT THE GENERAL IDEA WAS THE CURRENT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE COUNTY AND THE CITIES WORK TOGETHER TO DEFINE THE UGB AND THEN A PROPERTY HOLDER HAS TO REQUEST TO BE ANNEXED.
TO PUT ANOTHER LAYER WHERE THE COUNTY CAN STOP A PROPERTY OWNER WHO'S ASKED TO BE ANNEXED FROM BEING ANNEXED KIND OF RUN SIDEWAYS WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
UM, WHICH IS, I ADDED THAT TOO.
WE HAVE THAT PARTICULAR SPOTS.
IT'S THE THINK YOU ALWAYS HAVE NOTHING TO SAY IN OUR MEETINGS.
THIS IS WHERE I SAVE IT ALL FOR THIS.
SOMETIMES SHE HOLDS IT BACK AND THE STATE CHANGED ALL THE ANNEX LAWS.
WHAT WAS IT? I THINK IT'S 15 YEARS AGO.
REMEMBER THEY MADE IT HARDER FOR CITIES TO, I THINK, AND SOME OF THAT WAS GOOD.
AND THEN I KNOW TALKING ABOUT THE URBAN GROWTH PLAN.
LONG YEARS OF MEETING EVERY TWO WEEKS.
AND I ALWAYS JOKE JERRY CHAR, DEAR I LOVE JERRY, BUT THEY WOULD DETERMINE BASICALLY THAT YOUR GROWTH AREA WHERE POSSIBLE WENT WITH, UM, UM, DRAINAGE BASINS.
IF YOU'D LISTEN TO JERRY FRANKLIN'S DRAINAGE, BEAR BATON WENT ALL THE WAY TO ALABAMA.
SO YEAH, WE, BUT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS IS A BIG QUESTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CITY HAS THE, THE, YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION.
ANNEX COUNTY USE DOESN'T HAVE JURISDICTIONAL AUTHORITY TO PLACE THAT ON.
DOES, COULD PERHAPS HINDER THE PROPERTY RIGHTS, A CHOICE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BE IN A MUNICIPAL JURISDICTION OR NOT.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY ENTITY SHOULD DO THAT.
SO ULTIMATELY, IF THIS WAS DONE, THEN IT MIGHT END UP CONSTITUTIONALLY BEING REJECTED ANYWAY.
'CAUSE IF IT GETS INTO PROPERTY RIGHTS, WELL, IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
CONSTITUTIONALLY, I WOULD SAY THOUGH, CLEARLY, UM, IT ADDS MULTIPLE LAYERS OF GOVERNMENT TO DO SOMETHING AND HINDERS THE DECISION MAKING ABILITY OF A PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS USUALLY CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO BE THE PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND SO WE POINT THAT OUT AND, AND AGAIN, VERY PROPER WAY
SO IN OTHER CITIES IN OUR COUNTY, THEY HAVE THE SAME PROCESS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO REQUEST THE ANNEXATION.
IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE ADOPTED THAT FOR OUR PROGRAMS. THAT'S STATE LAW.
THERE ARE LIKE VERY, VERY RARE INSTANCES IN WHICH A CITY CAN DO IT WITHOUT PROPERTY OWNER PERMISSION.
BUT EVEN THEN IT'S LIKE, RIGHT.
IT'S SO ABSTRACT THAT IT DOESN'T EVER REALLY HAPPEN.
AND THAT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE, THE CASE.
I MEAN, THAT WAS, I'VE ACCOMMODATION LAW.
SO FULL PROPERTY RIGHTS, IT'S, IT'S THAT RECENT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF LAWS, NOT THE ANTICIPATE WHICH AGENDA WOULD THIS BE? THE NOT THE UP.
IT WASN'T WITHIN THE PAST, SERIOUSLY, WITHIN THE PAST 10 OR 11 YEARS, I THINK THAT THAT WAS CHANGED.
KRISTEN, GIVE ME WHERE WE'RE AT.
I I ASSUME THIS WOULD NOT BE ON THE UPCOMING MEETING.
IT'D BE THE FOLLOWING MEETING.
SO MARCH, WHAT ADDRESS? OUR DATE RIGHT NOW? UM, IT WOULD BE IN 19TH, MARCH 9TH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE? OKAY.
THE, UH, SECOND DRAFT, UH, RESOLUTION WE HAVE DEALS WITH, AND IT COMES OUTTA THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD ABOUT, UH, NES, UH, ELECTRICAL UTILITY, UM, AND THE BOARD MEMBERSHIP MM-HMM
SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS IS POLITELY DONE.
IT'S, IT DOESN'T GO IN AN ATTACK.
THEY'VE BEEN PROBABLY MONEY BY NOW.
I THINK THEY KNOW WHERE THEY STAND ON THAT.
BUT, BUT REALLY COMES INTO, IT REALLY HITS THE TOPIC OF, UH, GIVES YOU SOME BACKGROUND AND HITS THE TOPIC OF IF YOU ARE GOING TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO US, WE'RE NOT IN NASHVILLE DAVIDSON COUNTY.
WE'RE ONE OF THE COUNTIES OUTSIDE OF THAT.
THEN WE NEED TO HAVE SOME ROLE ON THE, UH, THE BOARD.
NOW, THE COMPLEXITY TO THAT, THE COMPLEXITY IS, IS THEIR BOARD MAKEUP IS ADDRESSED THROUGH THEIR CITY CHARTER.
THEIR CITY CHARTER IS NOT LIKE OURS.
WHERE IT'S A CHANGE IS A CHANGE IN, IN STATE.
UH, LEGISLATURE CAN MODIFY IT.
THEIR CHARTER IS ONE WHICH IS MORE OF A, WHAT I CALL TRADITIONAL PROCESS FROM
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CHARTERS.I'VE SEEN IN OTHER STATES WHERE, UH, A CHANGE HAS TO BE INITIATED TYPICALLY EITHER BY, UH, CITIZEN PETITION OR BY THEIR GOVERNING BODY.
AND THEN THAT QUESTION GOES TO THE VOTERS OF THEIR ENTIRE AREA, ALL THEIR ELECTORATE, AND THEN THEIR ELECTORATE WOULD HAVE TO CHOOSE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
SO I'M TELLING YOU THAT TO SAY THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE NOTHING HAPPENS HERE, BUT IT STILL MAY MAKE SENSE.
AND IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO AT LEAST SAY, HEY, IT'S IN YOUR LAP.
WE'VE, WE'VE COMMUNICATED WHAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER, PLEASE CONSIDER IT.
AND THEN, BUT, BUT THIS RECOGNIZES THE PROCESS.
LEGAL, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT QUESTION.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY'VE NOT EVEN HASHED OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE BILLS ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE, BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL BILLS INTRODUCED RIGHT AT THE DEADLINE MM-HMM
HAVING TO DO WITH THIS AND POSSIBLY CHANGING STATE RULES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS DEALING WITH UTILITIES.
IF STATE LAW CHANGES, DOES, WOULD THAT CHANGE EVEN IF IT WAS UNDER THE CITY'S CHARTER? THE UTILITY WOULD, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S VERY HYPOTHETICAL, BUT IT IS, IF STATE LAW CHANGES, WOULD THAT STILL GRANDFATHER IN, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M ASKING? OR COULD STATE LAW BASICALLY AMEND AND, AND INTERFERE WITH THEIR CHARTER? JUST GO SAY, NO, IT'S STATE LAW NOW BECAUSE WE WE'RE NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN OR WHATEVER.
IS THE CHARTER, IS IT, IS THERE, IS THERE A CHARTER? I GUESS THE QUESTION, IS THERE A CHARTER, UH, PROCESS AND ALL THAT? IS THAT A CONSTITUTIONAL THING OR IS IT JUST THROUGH STATE LAW? IT'S JUST THROUGH STATE LAW.
THEY, THEY'RE PRIVATE ACT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE, OR APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE IN 1947, I THINK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
BUT AS JASON MENTIONED, NOW THEY CHANGE IT, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM AMONGST THEMSELVES.
I, I THINK THAT THAT IS THE GOAL OF THIS, OF THIS STATE OF THE LEGISLATION.
WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS I DON'T THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE.
I KNOW WE'RE ON CAMERA, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, SORRY,
UM, BUT, BUT JUST BEING VERY CANDID WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW THAT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN THAT LEGISLATION IS, IS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE WHAT THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER ARE, IF THEY'RE, IF A TRANSFER DOES TAKE PLACE, THEN THE AGENCY THAT TAKES OVER WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, HAVE TO HANDLE ALL THAT.
SOME OF THAT'S PROBABLY ENCUMBERED BY BONDS AND MAYBE EVEN FEDERAL LOANS, WHICH ADDS LAYERS UPON LAYERS OF COMPLEXITIES.
UM, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU THAT, LIKE I, I DO THINK THAT'S THE INTENT AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S POSSIBLE.
HE APPOINTS THE BOARD MEMBERS.
WITH CONFIRMATION BY THE COUNCIL, SO RIGHT.
AND THEY HAVE FIVE SEATS RIGHT HERE.
THEORETICALLY HE COULD GO AHEAD AND APPOINT SOMEBODY FROM HE HE COULD IN PROCESS OR IS IT, DO YOU KNOW, ARE THERE, ARE THEY LIMITED? HE CANNOT, HE CANNOT BECAUSE THEIR CHARTER SAYS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE LIVED WITHIN DAVIDSON COUNTY FOR THREE YEARS.
SO THAT IS WHAT THIS REQUEST IS.
HEY, WILL YOU CHANGE YOUR CHARTER TO ALLOW FOR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM WILLIAMSON COUNTY? OKAY.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS US JUST SAYING, HEY, HEY, MAYOR, WOULD, WILL YOU PLEASE JUST GIVE US ONE PERSON? THAT'S ALL WE ASK FOR.
AND ONE OTHER THING TO THROW OUT THERE IS, UM, NES PROVIDES SERVICE TO DAVIDSON COUNTY AND SIX OTHER COUNTIES.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS, IS A BIG LEAP OR IS A BIG ASK.
UM, BECAUSE JASON AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT TO REPRESENT ALL THE OTHER COUNTIES WOULD DOUBLE THEIR BOARD.
UM, AND IT WOULD CHANGE THE MAJORITY.
THERE'S NO WAY THEY WOULD DO THAT.
ALTHOUGH I DO THINK, UM, AND, AND NOT TO SPEAK FROM A BUSINESS OR POLITICAL STANDPOINT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR, BUT THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HAPPEN IS US TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE.
SO THAT'S JUST, THIS IS JUST OUR WAY TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THEY CONSIDER CHANGING THEIR CHARTER TO ADD FOR A WILLIAMSON COUNTY RECORD.
AND THIS IS POINTED TOWARDS WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE MOST OF THAT INSTEAD OF BRENTWOOD.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK, IF IT'S, IT'S HARD ENOUGH WHEN YOU THINK OF THE NUMBER OF COUNTIES, YOU THINK OF ALL THE CITIES AND, AND SO THEN EVERY CITY SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE FOR THEIR MAKEUP.
SO, BUT YOU COULD CHANGE THAT.
IT'S JUST, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS TARGETED TOWARDS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN PRAC REAL PRACTICAL LEVEL.
UM, THAT PERSON'S GONNA BE OUTNUMBERED SO MUCH, BUT YET THEY'RE GONNA BE CARRYING WILLIAMSON COUNTY ON THEIR SHOULDERS.
WHO WOULD WANT TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE, BUT NOT MANY MAYORS.
IT COULD BE HARD TO FIND SOMEBODY BECAUSE US ARE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PREVAIL VERY OFTEN.
THERE'S THE, THE, THE PRACTICALLY AN IMPACT OF THAT.
IF, IF IT COULD HAPPEN, THE IMPACT PROBABLY ISN'T MEASURABLE, TO BE HONEST.
I MEAN, YOU MIGHT TO BE A LOUD NOISE, BUT THAT MIGHT BE ALL RIGHT.
IS THE, IS THE RUB THE FACT THAT THE STATE LEGISLATOR WOULD BE CHANGING A CHARTER OF
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THE MUNICIPALITY THROUGH LEGISLATIVE ACTION OR WELL, THAT'S HAPPENED TO US.THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING LAST YEAR WE HAD THAT HAPPEN TO US.
OUR CHANGE, AND I'LL SAY THERE IS CURRENTLY A LAWSUIT WITHOUT OUR CONSENT.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
THERE'S, UM, CURRENTLY A LAWSUIT BETWEEN THIS STATE AND METRO GOVERNMENT FROM THEM TRYING TO CHANGE THEIR CHARTER AS FAR AS HOW MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS MEMBERS ARE.
SO AGAIN, I HATE TO SPECULATE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE THE LEGISLATURE IS TRYING TO IMPOSE ITS WILL ON A, ON ESSENTIALLY A HOME RURAL CITY.
IS IT, IS IT IS IT IS STILL IN COURT.
BECAUSE THE PREMISE RIGHT NOW IS THEY CAN'T.
AND, UH, AND, AND BECAUSE THEIR CHARTER WAS, WAS CREATED UNDER DIFFERENT LAW IN DIFFERENT WAY THAN OURS WAS.
SO THAT IS THE OVERARCHING QUESTION.
I KNOW WHEN YOU MENTIONED THEIR CITY CHARTER MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OURS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT MADE A DIFFERENCE TOO.
BUT OUR CHARTER WAS CHANGED AND IT WAS NOT MY CONSENT OF US.
AND OF COURSE Y ALL KNOW OUR CHARTER IS BASED, IT'S GENERAL LAW, STATE LAW CHARTER THAT ANY CITY MANAGER COMMISSIONER FORM OF GOVERNMENT FALLS UNDER THESE SECTIONS OF, OF THE CODE.
WHEREAS THEIRS IS MORE, AS JASON SAID, A LITTLE BIT MORE TYPICAL.
WHERE THEY, THEY'VE DECIDED THE WAY THAT THEY WANNA ROLL THEMSELVES.
JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE FIX HERE IS NOT FOR NASHVILLE TO ANNEX THE PARTS OF BRENTWOODS OR SERVED BY
I JUST WANNA BE CLEARER HOW BAD YOU WANT.
SO HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OF THE LETTERS, I KNOW EARLY ON DURING ALL THIS, UH, I THINK THE MAYOR OF LAVERNE PUT SOMETHING OUT AND THEN GALLATIN, UH, OR, OR SUMNER COUNTY, UM, ALSO HAD SOMETHING IN THE NEWS.
BUT HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OFFICIAL RESOLUTIONS FROM ANYBODY ELSE? RUTHERFORD COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE DONE ANY RESOLUTION RUTHFORD IN THE NEWS THERE.
THEY'RE REALLY PUSHING ABOUT, IF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA COVER THAT PORTION OF US, ESPECIALLY, I THINK IT'S MOSTLY SMYRNA AND LAVERNE THAT ARE COVERED.
SO THE TWO REPRESENTATIVES THAT COVER SMYRNA WERE THE ONES WHO ARE INTRODUCING SOME OF THE LEGISLATION IN THE STATE LEGISLATOR.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES, BUT, UH, MY THOUGHTS ARE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COME.
BUT I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT SENSE OF UTILITY IS
AND THE STATE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T FOLLOW AND ABIDE, THE STATE WILL COME IN AND TAKE IT OVER.
AND, UH, THAT WAS PART OF ALL THE REMEDIATION WE HAD TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WE WANTED TO DO IT 'CAUSE WE WANTED OUR SEWER SYSTEM TO BE GOOD, BUT, UH, THE STATE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HADN'T HAVE
AND SO, UH, I THINK THE RESOLUTION IS A, IS A GREAT THING JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE ON RECORD.
UH, FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS HOW WE FEEL NOW.
THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD THINK IF, IF, UM, IF THERE WAS SOME LEGISLATURE THAT, THAT WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT ACTUALLY WILL PROBABLY WORK, UH, WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND THEN DRAFT SOMETHING MM-HMM
YOU, YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE YOUR QUESTION, UH, A DIFFERENT QUESTION LATER.
I OBVIOUSLY, WHEN IT WAS FORMED, AND I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY AND THE FORMATION, IT SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED REPRESENTATION FROM THE NON NASHVILLE METRO LEAGUE.
IT, IT'S BECAUSE NES WAS AN IN, IT'S ALMOST A A HUNDRED YEARS OLD OR MAYBE A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
AND LIKE I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, WHEN I WAS IN FIRST GRADE, WERE 3000 PEOPLE IN BRENTWOOD.
AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, I'M SURE WHEN ES FIRST FORMED DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRICITY MM-HMM
AND THEY WEREN'T REPRESENTING THAT MANY PEOPLE.
AND NASHVILLE AT THAT TIME PROBABLY HAD A POPULATION OF 170,000, 200,000 AND THROUGH THE YEARS EVEN PROBABLY UP TILL AFTER WORLD WAR II.
AND SO THIS WAS ALL RURAL, SO IT WAS RUTHERFORD COUNTY.
AND, AND IN MY LIFETIME, I REMEMBER WHEN MOST OF THIS WAS RURAL AND RUTHERFORD COUNTY WAS RURAL, UH, AND SOMER COUNTY, I'M SURE.
AND I THINK THEY COVER PART OF WILSON COUNTY TOO.
SO I, I THINK THEY JUST NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
AND THEN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF TVA DURING THE THIRTIES PUSHING, TRYING TO GET ELECTRIC OUT TO THE RURAL AREAS.
I'M SURE THAT WAS PART OF THE EQUATION.
THEY NEEDED AN ENTITY IN A CITY, BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
SO, AND, AND ONE INTERESTING THING TOO IS THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT THEMSELVES BECAUSE AS WE KNOW THAT THE, THE WORST OF THE ICE STORMS REALLY STARTED PROBABLY RIGHT IN BRENTWOOD AND, AND WENT NORTH INTO, UH, THE NASHVILLE AREA.
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THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THEMSELVES RIGHT NOW.NOW, WE'LL, IT'LL ALL SETTLE UP HERE WHEN WE REALLY FIGURE OUT, UM, THE, ON THE RESPONSE, I THINK COMMUNICATION WAS A, A BIG CONCERN FOR ALL OF US.
BUT ON THE ACTUAL RESPONSE, YOU, UH, I, I ALWAYS THOUGHT IF I WERE THEM, I WOULD GO AND COMPARE IT TO SOME OF THE ICE STORMS IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
HOW MANY CUSTOMERS, HOW QUICKLY THEY WERE BROUGHT UP.
THAT'S WHEN YOU START TO GET AN IDEA.
BECAUSE WE ASSUME BECAUSE THEIR, UM, COMMUNICATION WASN'T VERY GOOD THAT THE RESPONSE MAY HAVE BEEN SLOW.
WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF IT WAS SLOW WITHOUT DOING SOME COMPARISONS.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN.
I KNOW IT FELT LIKE IT IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRICITY FOR TWO WEEKS.
UM, MY POINT IS, IS THAT YOU HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS UTILITY, THAT UTILITY, WELL, I DON'T KNOW UNLESS THEY HAVE THE SAME ICE STORM WITH THAT UTILITY THAT YOU'RE GONNA KNOW THE DIFFERENCE YET.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES THAT SO DIFFICULT.
BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW COMMUNICATION'S A FACTOR, BUT WE, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE NASHVILLE, UH, MAYOR AND A LOT OF FOLKS THERE, THEY'RE UNHAPPY.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEM AS WELL.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION OF A LOT OF PIECES OF THIS.
AND PERHAPS WITH ALL THE COMMUNICATION FROM THE PERIPHERAL COUNTIES, MAYBE THEY WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR CHARTER AND RETHINK ABOUT THE REPRESENTATION.
AND IF THE STATE LEGISLATURE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, IT'LL BE UP TO THEIR VOTERS.
AND SO THEY HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE SENTIMENT IS.
BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WITH ALL OF THIS, IT MIGHT HELP THEM SAY, YEAH, WE NEED TO RETHINK A COUPLE THINGS THERE.
MAYBE NOT JUST THIS, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE AS WELL.
SO IT'S HARD TO TELL WHAT'LL COME OUT OF IT, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT.
IT DOES PUT ON RECORD OUR DESIRE THAT SAYS IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME REPRESENTATION IF WE'RE GONNA BE ACCUSTOMED LEASE.
WE HAD SO MANY, WE THINK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT CONTACTED US, THAT OUR CITIZENS, THIS IS A WAY REALLY WE'RE RESPONDING FOR THOSE CITIZENS.
WE'RE NOT SAYING, BUT I THINK EVERY, EVERY CITIZEN THAT WAS WITHOUT ELECTRICITY THAT WENT THROUGH THOSE FRUSTRATIONS WOULD BE VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE MOVING THIS FORWARD.
AND I THINK IT'S, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WRITING IT THAT WAY.
ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE I'M NOT AN NES CUSTOMER.
WELL,
WE GET NEWSLETTERS AND ALL THIS STUFF.
DO NES CUSTOMERS GET THOSE? I DON'T KNOW.
I'M AN, I'M AN MTE WHEN, WHEN WE USED TO HAVE PAPER BILLS, SOMETIMES IT'D BE AN INSERT WITH A LITTLE THING IN IT, BUT NOT, NOT ANYTHING LIKE WE'RE BUILDING, I DON'T, MIDDLE TENNESSEE COMMUNICATES WITH THE CITY EITHER.
I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE IN A RESOLUTION IF WE ASKED FOR SOME TYPE OF REPORT TO BE GIVEN TO OUR CITY GOVERNMENT THAT WE COULD DISPERSE TO OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT THEIR TREE TRIMMING POLICIES AND, AND THEIR PREPAREDNESS.
THINGS THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
NOT JUST FANCY LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE REALLY CRITICAL.
WELL, OCCASIONALLY THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE TREE TRIMMING IS GONNA START IN MAY, YOU KNOW, AND THEY JUST, BUT IT, IT, OTHER THAN WHAT WE GOT WHEN WE DIRECTLY ASKED ABOUT THE TRIMMING IN OUR BACK AND FORTH WITH THE LAWYER, I NEVER REALLY SAW ANYTHING THAT SAID, THIS IS HOW MANY FEET AND, AND WHATEVER AND HOW FREQUENTLY.
AND, AND THEN FROM A, FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, JUST AS, AS MAYOR CHUCK BARBER, WHO YOU PROBABLY KNOW IS THE, THE COMMUNICATIONS PERSON FOR MIDDLE TENNESSEE ELECTRIC IS OUT AT ARBOR DAY MAKING GRILLED CHEESE SANDWICHES OR HOT DOGS EVERY YEAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO I'VE KNOWN CHUCK SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION.
WELL, HAS ANYBODY EVER INVITED NES THOUGH TO BE THERE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW.
WELL, BUT, BUT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, SO THE, THE, THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE THE STORM, I THINK JASON AND I BOTH GOT A CALL FROM CHUCK BARBER SAYING, HEY, WE'RE STAGING EQUIPMENT AND PARTS.
HEY AGAIN AT THE AG CENTER DOWN ON 65, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH, WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS STORM'S GONNA BE, BUT WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS NOW.
I DON'T KNOW THAT NES DIDN'T STAGE THINGS SIMILARLY BECAUSE THEY GOT, YOU KNOW, WITH A QUARTER MILLION PEOPLE OR QUARTER MILLION HOUSEHOLDS DOWN AND HALF A MILLION PEOPLE OUT.
THEY GOT A LOT OF 'EM UP WITHIN THREE OR FOUR DAYS AND HAD ALMOST ALL OF 'EM UP WITHIN 10 DAYS.
SO, I MEAN, THEY, THEY DEFINITELY HAD STUFF GOING ON, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE A COUNTERPART TO CHUCK BARBER.
BUT DID WE, YOU KNOW, BETTER THAN US MAYOR.
MAYOR BECAUSE YOU WERE SORT OF FRONTLINE TOO WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND ALL.
BUT DID WE HAVE, I MEAN, WHEN THIS STARTED, DID WE HAVE THE NAME OF ONE CONTACT? IT TOOK ME A COUPLE OF DAYS TO FIND OUT WHO I WAS SUPPOSED TO EVEN BE.
YOU MAIL IN TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR RESIDENTS THAT WERE CONTACTING ME.
DID YOU KNOW WELL, THE INITIAL CONTACT WE HAD WAS ANTONIO.
HE USED THE PUBLIC INFORMATION PERSON.
I, THERE'S THE, THERE'S, THERE'S A, A VICE PRESIDENT LEVEL PERSON WHO'S IN CHARGE OF OPERATIONS AND SOME OTHER THINGS BY THE NAME OF BRENT BAKER.
AND, UH, HE ACTUALLY HAD WORKED FOR THE SPRINGFIELD UTILITY WHILE I WAS THERE.
AND SO MY CORRESPONDENCE WENT TO BOTH OF THEM.
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IF WE GOT THE SAME REQUEST TWICE OR THREE TIMES FOR THE SAME PROPERTY FOR THE ELECTRICITY, I'M SENDING IT TO HIM.I'M NOT EDITING, I'M NOT DOING IT.
AND BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT CLEARLY.
AND SO THOSE WERE THE TWO CONTACTS THAT WE HAD AT LEAST THAT I HAD THAT I KEPT, UH, MOVING INFORMATION TO.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT, THAT WE WANT TO KNOW SOMEONE WHO CAN AN ANSLEY ANSWER QUESTIONS.
ANTONIO WOULD REPLY TO ME, I'LL FORWARD THIS TO A SOMEONE WHOM WILL HANDLE IT, BASICALLY.
BUT THAT DIDN'T TELL ME ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I TOLD THE RESIDENT ALREADY.
I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF NOTHING ELSE COMES OUT OF THE STATE LEGISLATOR, BUT THIS, TO REQUIRE THE UTILITIES TO REPORT HOW MUCH OF THEIR BUDGET THEY'RE SPENDING EVERY YEAR IN PREPARATION.
YOU REMEMBER THE CHRISTMAS MORNING WHEN WE HAD THE, THE BROWN OUTS AND THE BLACKOUTS OR WHATEVER.
AND IT'S ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE FOR AN HOUR, I THINK, IN OUR HOUSE, TWO OR THREE HOURS.
BECAUSE TVA WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THAT REAL DROP OF TEMPERATURE.
I'M NOT AN ELECTRICIAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THEY MEANT.
BUT SINCE THEN, TVA SPENT A LOT OF MONEY BASICALLY HARDENING THEIR FACILITIES, THEIR THEIR, THEIR DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, TRANSFORMERS, DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, HOW MUCH ARE UTILITIES SPENDING ON THAT OF THEIR BUDGET? HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, AND TREE TRIMMING IS FINE, BUT TO ME, HOW MANY ROTTED TELEPHONE POLES ARE YOU REPLACING OR REPLACING THEM WITH METAL POLES OR WHATEVER, UH, BECAUSE OF THESE TYPES OF STORMS. AND THEY SAY WITH AI THAT THE POWER REQUIREMENTS OF AI WILL STRESS THE POWER GRID SO MUCH THAT I THINK WE'RE JUST STARTING TO SEE A HEAD OF PROBLEMS THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE FACING.
AND TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT CHUCK BARBER AND YOU KNOW, DID WE INVITE THEM AND DIDN'T INVITE ANY S UM, NES IS VERY, I MEAN, UH, MIDDLE TENNESSEE IS VERY PROACTIVE.
I THINK THEY CAME TO US OH WOW.
AND SAID, HEY, CAN WE PARTICIPATE IN THE ARBOR DAY? WE'D LIKE TO BRING A WAGON AND GRILL SOME CHEESE.
AND, AND YOU DON'T SEE THAT TYPE OF THING OUT OF ANY S JUST WANNA PASS ALONG.
I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER GARRIS COULDN'T BE HERE, BUT I KNOW JUST FROM COMMUNICATION WITH HER AND STUFF THAT SHE'S MADE, SHE'D WANT US TO OBSERVE THAT SHE REALLY TRIED HER LEVEL BEST TO COMMUNICATE WITH NESA LOT.
I WAS VERY, VERY FRUSTRATED BY IT.
NES IS GONNA CHANGE PROBABLY AT THE TOP.
THEY, I MEAN WE, THEY'RE CALLING FOR HER SEND OUR STUFF, BUT THEY KNOW THIS TOO.
AND THIS, WE'RE GONNA SEE CHANGE COMING.
SO CAN I JUST, THEY DEFERRED THAT VOTE.
OH, HAVE THEY ON HER? SO TO JUST TO SEE HOW IT TIES IN.
BECAUSE WE GET OUR WATER AND SEWER OR A LOT OF US DO FROM METRO.
SO IS THAT RELATIONSHIP, LIKE DO WE HAVE ANY, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
ARE WE ON ANY KIND OF BOARD OR DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF SAY IN WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR HOW OUR HOW THEY PROVIDE US SERVICE OR YOU LIKE, WHAT'S THAT RELATIONSHIP LIKE COMPARED TO THE THE STATE KIND OF, WE DON'T ACTUALLY, THAT I KNOW OF WHEN I WAS MAYOR, BUT THE STATE, YOU MAY KNOW SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT THE STATE RUNS THAT REGULATES THAT REAL CLOSE.
BECAUSE LIKE SOMETIMES PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WELL THEY MAY JUST CUT Y'ALL'S WATER OFF OR MAY CUT THE OFF.
AND SO THAT'S, TO ME, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER REGULATED THAN WHAT THE ELECTRIC UTILITIES ARE.
DON'T HAVE ANYONE ON THE BOARD ETHICAL THAT YOU WANT OTHER CAST.
AND SO WHEN ISSUES COME UP THOUGH, IS IT, IT MUST, IS IT EASIER THAN WHAT WE'RE HAVING WITH NES IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU KNOW, PIPES SPRAY SERVICES AND SUPPLIED? UM, OR IS THAT MORE THAN IT'S, YOU GUYS ANSWER THAT QUESTION WHETHER IT'S BETTER SERVICE OR NOT, I THINK YOU DO.
IS THE CITY METRO WATER CUSTOMERS, BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN BRENTWOOD THAT IS RELATED TO THE WATER SERVICE, IS THAT UP FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT TO FIX? OR DOES METRO COME IN METRO? YEAH, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE.
JUST LIKE NOLANSVILLE WATER HAS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE CITY, TOTALLY SEPARATE ENTITIES.
HARPER VALLEY HAS THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY, BUT WE HAVE, AS A UTILITY OF A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH METRO WATER PERSONNEL.
AND I GET CALLS OFTEN FROM METRO CUSTOMERS ABOUT, I'M HAVING THIS PROBLEM.
I CAN'T CONTACT, NO ONE CALLS ME BACK AT METRO WATER AND WE'LL PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL OUR CONTACTS AND USUALLY GET SOMEBODY TO RETURN A CALL.
AND WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM THAT WAY.
BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS WHAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE HITTING ON IS WHY WHEN YOU CAN HAVE IT, AND SUBURBS DON'T OFTEN GET THIS, IT'S, IT'S BEST FOR, I I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED IT'S BEST FOR THE CITY.
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SERVICE, BECAUSE THERE'S SERVICES THAT ARE SOMETIMES, UM, MORE SET TO BE PRIVATE THAN PUBLIC.BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR CONTINUITY OF ALL THE KEY PRIMARY SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE, YOUR STAFF IS RESPONSIBLE.
IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THOSE SERVICES CAN'T BE PROVIDED AT A HIGH QUALITY LEVEL.
THEY CAN BY OTHERS AND OFTEN ARE BY OTHERS.
BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THESE SITUATIONS AND THE QUESTION COMES UP OF, WELL, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? THERE IS SOMEONE, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
'CAUSE WE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE FRAGMENTED IN THE SERVICES.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S VERY TYPICAL OF THE SUBURBAN COMMUNITY VERSUS THE CORE TYPE COMMUNITY.
AND IT, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GO BACK AND WE, AND THROUGH OUR EMERGENCY PLAN, WE HAVE CONTACTS FOR A LOT OF THESE FOLKS, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE THE CITIZEN CUSTOMER SERVICE CONTACT.
THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE A MUNICIPAL CONTACT.
IT'S A GOOD REMINDER TO MAKE SURE WE ALWAYS KEEP THAT INFORMATION UP TO DATE.
'CAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT.
AND JUST TO, TO DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO BE READY FOR THAT NEXT, UH, UH, UH, WEATHER EVENT OR WHATEVER.
LIKE AT MY HOUSE, WE'RE VILLE COLLEGE GROVE.
BUT IN MY BUSINESS, IT'S RARE.
I'M METRO WATER AND CEDAR OF BRENTWOOD SEWER, WHICH ULTIMATELY ENDS UP IN METRO.
SO
UM, WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED, JOE SWEENEY WAS MAYOR AND HE AND MIKE WALKER HAD TO GO DOWN TO THE WATER SEWER IN NASHVILLE.
'CAUSE BRENTWOOD WAS KIND OF A MESS AS FAR AS RATES AND WA YOU KNOW.
AND THEY SAID TO ME, YOU NEED TO COME AND LEARN.
SO I WENT WITH THEM AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, JACE, WHEN HE SAID, AND THE MAN WE TALKED TO WAS IRISH, WE WILL BE OKAY.
WELL, WE WEREN'T, WE GOT A LETTER THAT SAID, YOU RAISE THE RATES OR WE WILL
SO BEING IRISH DIDN'T MAKE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS ALL FOR JOE SOMETIMES.
BUT JOE THOUGH, WASN'T IT? HE THOUGHT THAT IRISH WAS GONNA SMOOTH EVERYTHING.
SO LET ME ASK YOU THEN, WITH THIS AGAIN, THE, THE, THE EMPHASIS OF THIS WOULD BE REPRESENTATION.
WE, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT JUST GENERALLY IMPROVING CUSTOMER COMMUNICATION, EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY AND, AND ACTUALLY MUNICIPAL, UH, PRIMARY CONTACT.
WOULD YOU LIKE US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCLUDE THAT EMPHASIS IN THERE AS WELL? MM-HMM
I THINK WE CAN DO THAT GENERALLY.
AND THEN THAT EVEN MORE SHOWS YOU MEANS, KRISTEN, THANK YOU.
I WAS LIKE YOU AND YOUR TAPE ROOM PRACTICAL.
WE'RE WANTING PRACTICAL THINGS DONE.
THIS IS NOT JUST, JUST TO YEAH.
NOT DIS INVOLVED GAMEMANSHIP PROGRAM.
SO WE CAN ADD A SECTION AFTER THE THEREFORE AND IT WILL ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY THE, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THE PRIMARY CONTACT AND WE CAN DO THAT.
DOES THAT WORK? ALRIGHT, NOW FOR THE MAIN EVENT, IF YOU WANNA STRETCH YOUR LEGS, IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE ME HALF A SECOND.