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          HAVE A FULL SCHEDULE. 
          SO WE'LL GET GOING. 
          SO WE'LL START 
          [ Brentwood City Commission Briefing December 4, 2025 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the December 8th Agendas, the item below will be discussed:  Veterans Monument Presentation by Hodgson Douglas Landscape Architects Follow-up discussion on E-bikes Finance Budget Position This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
WITH, UH, THE REVIEW OF OUR UPCOMING MEETING, AND THAT BEGINS WITH BEER BOARD MEETING COMING UP. 
          SO WE HAVE A, UH, UH, LET'S SEE HERE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          AN ON-PREMISES BEER PERMIT FOR APA JULIOS MEXICAN RESTAURANT. 
          SO EVERYONE'S PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THAT. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? EITHER, UM, THE NEW OWNERS OR THEY'RE EXPERIENCED? RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT A FIRST TIME RESTAURANT OWNER COMING AND BUYING A C UH, I DON'T KNOW. 
          AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE. 
          MARY ANDREWS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL, BUT THEY'VE YEAH. 
          FOR, WELL, THEY'VE OWNED IT FOR OVER A YEAR AND THAT WAS JUST THE YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
           SERIOUS NOW. 
          YEAH, BEFORE RIGHT. 
          HAD A CRASH COURSE. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          SCRATCH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          GOOD. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR MEETING. 
          WE WILL HAVE, UH, SOME COMPLETE PUBLIC RECOGNITION, UH, DETECTIVE, UH, SERGEANT SEAN AND . 
          SO HAVE THAT ON THERE. 
          SO RECOGNITION'S ALWAYS NICE SEE, GOING INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. 
          UH, MOSTLY IT'S A MOSTLY CONSENT AGENDA, UH, AGAIN, AND SO WE'LL START OFF WITH THE, UH, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE USE OF COMPETITIVE SEALED PROPOSAL PROCESS FOR FIREWORKS VENDOR, UH, GROUP B FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 
          AND SO FOR THIS ONE, UM, WE, THIS, THIS PROCESS, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS FAIRLY SIMILAR ACTUALLY, TO WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO. 
          USUALLY WHEN ADVERTISE FOR THE SALE, UH, FOR THE VALUE OF THE CONTRACT AS PART OF OUR SOLICITATION. 
          AND THEN WE'LL REQUEST, UH, SHELL COUNTS AND SIZES. 
          THIS WON'T BE A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT THAN THAT, BUT USING THE COMPETITIVE ASPECT TO THE SEALED PROPOSAL PROCESS, WE CAN LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT EXPERIENCE QUALIFICATIONS, MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE QUALITY VENDOR. 
          WE'VE HAD PRETTY GOOD LUCK, BUT IT ACTUALLY HELPS US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT. 
          THE ONLY OTHER, UH, ASPECT OF THIS THAT'S REALLY A CHANGE IS WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE, THE BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THIS YEAR, UH, $50,000 INSTEAD OF THE TYPICAL 25, BECAUSE THAT'S A 250TH ANNIVERSARY. 
          SO IT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          AND THEN WE GO BACK DOWN IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS TO THE TYPICAL 25, UNLESS IT, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN YOU SHOULD CHOOSE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? UH, JUST, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE QUESTION IS, BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THE, THE REVIEW SINCE WE ADDED THE TURF FIELDS. 
          ISN'T THAT RIGHT? NO, WE, NO, WE DID LAST TIME. 
          OH, WE DID IT LAST YEAR TOO, BECAUSE WE BASICALLY GAVE THEM A, UM, A RELEASE FROM LIABILITY IF THE TURF FIELDS WERE TO BE DAMAGED. 
          THEY OKAY. 
          THEY PROBABLY WOULD NOT SHOOT OFF THE FIREWORKS IF THEY WERE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE FIELDS. 
          WELL, NO, NO. 
          AND, AND I GET THAT. 
          I'M NOT ASKING NECESSARILY TO PUT 'EM ON THE HOOK 'CAUSE WE'RE CHOOSING TO DO THE FIREWORKS WHERE WE, WE CHOSE TO PUT THE TURF FIELDS THERE. 
          IF I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF SELECTION TO PROCESS TO HELP MINIMIZE THE RISKS TO THE TURF FIELDS THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO OUR STAFF FIREWORKS EXPERT IS AS FAR AS THAT GOES. 
          MAYBE, MAYBE YOU, WELL, SO PROACTIVELY ON OUR SIDE, OKAY. 
          WE'VE INVESTED IN A COUPLE OF WATER CANNONS OKAY. 
          TO TRY AND PRE-WET THE FIELDS. 
          NOW WE HAVE DRAINAGE THAT ALLOWS THAT WATER TO RUN OFF PRETTY QUICKLY SO IT DOESN'T STAY ON THERE. 
          BUT IT, IT DOES HELP MAYBE REDUCE THE BURN TIME OF A BALL THAT COMES DOWN AND REMAINS LIT WHEN IT HITS THE GROUND. 
          AND WE HAVE FOLKS OUT THERE WITH FIRE EXTINGUISHERS TRYING TO PUT OUT ANY, UM, LAST YEAR I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ANY DAMAGE THE YEAR BEFORE. 
          WE HAD A FEW SPOTS. 
          MM. 
          BUT WE HAVE TOLD THE VENDORS THAT THEY NEED TO AVOID THE TYPES THAT MIGHT COME ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, WE HAVE NO, UM, GROUND FIREWORKS THEMSELVES OR ALL AERIAL SHELLS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME THAT WOULD TEND TO TRAIL LONGER. 
          AND WE'VE ASKED THEM TO STAY AWAY FROM THE EXTREMELY TRAILING ONE SO THAT WE DON'T GET THE DAMAGE AND THAT, AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING I WAS WORRIED ABOUT. 
          IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF SELECTION IN TERMS OF THE SORT THAT MIGHT, MIGHT HELP US. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S BEEN OUR ASK OF 'EM. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT'S FUNNY 'CAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEM TO BE REALLY EATEN UP WITH THE IDEA. 
          THE TURF IS BETTER IN ALL WAYS. 
          AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE MORE I LIVE WITH TURF, THE MORE IT'S LIKE THE WHITE CARPET VERSION OF, UH, OF SPORT FIELDS, YOU KNOW, JUST HIGH MAINTENANCE AND HIGH EXPENSE. 
          SO YEAH, IT IS. 
          ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, THOUGHTS? OKAY. 
          MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO IS AN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, READ AND SHOWS METER SOLUTIONS FOR WATER METER, UH, WATER SYSTEM METER TESTING. 
          AND AS YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW, SOME OF YOU, UH, WE, WE DO THE SMALL, WHAT WE CALL THE SMALLER METERS IN-HOUSE TYPICALLY. 
          BUT FOR THE LARGER METERS, WHICH THEY'RE ABOUT 360, UH, THOSE HAVE A LITTLE MORE COMPLEXITY TO THEM. 
          SO WE CONTRACT OUT FOR THE TESTING FOR THOSE. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THE TESTING IS, UH, SOME PEOPLE  THOSE THAT PAY THEIR WATER BILLS SOMETIMES BELIEVE THAT METERS WHEN THEY AGE, THEY, THEY MOVE FASTER, BUT THEY DON'T, THEY ACTUALLY MOVE SLOWER, WHICH MEANS YOU DON'T GET TO, UH, UH, UH, COLLECT FOR THE FULL AMOUNT OF WATER USAGE AND TIME. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU TEST YOUR METERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE RUNNING AS CLOSE TO ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE. 
          AT SOME POINT, YOU OF COURSE NEED TO CHANGE 'EM OUT. 
          SO WE, UH, CONTRACT FOR THAT. 
          WE, UH, ROUTINELY SOLICIT BIDS FROM COMPETITIVE CONTRACTORS. 
          WE DID THAT HERE. 
          WE HAD TWO CONTRACTORS QUALIFIED TO PERFORM THE SERVICES. 
          THE THE BEST PROPOSAL CAME IN FROM READ AND SHOWS, 
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AND THAT'S AN AMOUNT OF $80,775,000 ANNUALLY. 
          AND THE AGREEMENT DOES ALLOW FOR ANNUAL RENEWALS FOR UP TO TWO ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIODS. 
          UH, AND, UH, LET'S SEE, THOSE ARE TIED TO THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. 
          WE HAVE, UH, SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THIS COMPANY. 
          IT'S BEEN GOOD AND THEY ARE VERY EXPERIENCED IN WHAT THEY DO. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY. 
          CONSENT ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A AUTHORIZING, UH, A CONTRACT WITH THREE T PINS AND EVENTS, UH, LLC FOR TENT RENTAL SERVICES FOR RAVENSWOOD MANSION. 
          SO YOU MAY RECALL AUTHORIZING, UH, NOT TOO LONG AGO THE USE OF COMPETITIVE SEALED, UH, PROPOSALS FOR TENTS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH EVERY EVENT SEPARATELY. 
          UH, AND SO WE ARE HERE SECURING PRICING FOR A SINGLE SAILCLOTH INTENT TO BE RENTED AND INSTALLED, UH, FROM APRIL THROUGH OCTOBER. 
          UH, THAT'LL HELP US WITH THE EFFICIENCY LOGISTICAL ASPECTS, WEAR AND TEAR SET UP, ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, THE ATTACHED PROPOSAL FROM, UH, AN AGREEMENT WITH THREE T TENTS AND EVENTS CALLS FOR PROVIDING INSTALLATION. 
          IT'S A 44 BY 103, UH, FOOT, UH, SAILCLOTH TENT. 
          AND WITH EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT, INCLUDING, UH, WHITE STRING LIGHTS INSIDE THE TENT ALONG THE PATHWAY, UH, THEY WILL DO, THIS IS REALLY A BIG PIECE, I THINK TOO. 
          THEY'LL DO WEEKLY INSPECTIONS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THINGS CAN CHANGE WITH TENTS THAT ENSURES THE TENT REMAINS STRUCTURALLY SOUND. 
          THE LIGHTING'S OPERATIONAL, NO REPAIRS ARE NEEDED. 
          SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD PART OF THE SERVICE IF BECAUSE OF WEATHER, THE TENT REMOVAL IS NECESSARY, THAT'S ON THEM AS WELL IN THE AGREEMENT. 
          AND SO, UH, WE WON'T BE LIABLE FOR ANYTHING THERE. 
          UH, THE, UH, CONTRACTOR WOULD BE PAID 50% OF THE FEE AFTER THE CONTRACT IS EXECUTED 50% BEFORE THE 10 IS SET UP IN SPRING OF 2027. 
          UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? MOVING ON TO CONSENT ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          UH, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT, THIS IS RELATED TO THE LAST ITEM. 
          IT'S AMENDING OUR GENERAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, UH, FOR THE, UH, RAVENSWOOD MANSION, CONCLUSION OF THE TENT AMENITY. 
          SO IT, AND BASICALLY WHEN YOU RENT, NOW YOU HAVE THE PRICE OF THE TENT BUILT INTO THAT. 
          AND SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THE CHANGE IN THE, UH, PRICE FOR THE PEAK TIMES. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE THE, UH, CLOSED CHANGE IN THE POLICY WOULD INCREASE WEEKEND RATES DURING THE PEAK SEASON, WHICH IS APRIL THROUGH OCTOBER, FROM 3,500 TO 6,000 ON FRIDAYS, 5,000 TO 7,500 ON SATURDAYS, AND 3,500 TO 6,000 ON SUNDAYS. 
          AND SO THE, UH, PRICE INCREASE WILL IMPACT THE BOOKING EVENTS THAT OCCUR IN APRIL 20, 27 AND LATER. 
          SO IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF LAG TIME BEFORE THAT COMES INTO PLAY. 
          AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO LOOK AT IS, IS THE EFFECT. 
          WHAT EFFECT WOULD THAT HAVE ON, UH, THE DEMAND FOR THE USE? OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, IT'S A DECENT PRICE INCREASE, BUT AS WE LOOK AT IT, THAT, THAT THAT PART IS JUST ONE PIECE OF A EVENT. 
          AND THESE EVENTS OFTEN COST AS MUCH AS 10 OR $15,000. 
          WE REALLY DON'T THINK THEY'LL HAVE ANY IMPACT THERE. 
          AND THE OTHER PART IS IT OFFSETS, AGAIN, SEPARATE TENT COSTS. 
          SO WE THINK WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE WITH THAT AND, AND DON'T THINK IT'LL CHANGE THE, UH, DESIRE TO HAVE AN EVENT THERE. 
          SO DOES THAT IMPLY WE'RE, UH, WE'RE BOOKED OUT THROUGH 2026 RIGHT NOW? WELL, CHARLES, IT'S BECAUSE, UH, THOSE, THOSE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BOOKED ALREADY, UM, COULD BE AS MUCH AS 18 MONTHS OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WANT EVERYBODY TO COME IN KNOW WE'RE PROTECTING THE FOLKS THAT ARE ALREADY BOOKED, FOR SURE. 
          WHICH IS, UH, THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          AND THEN GIVE ANOTHER FOLKS THE CHANCE TO REVIEW THE PRICE BEFORE THEY BOOK. 
          SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. 
          UH, AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH WEST PUBLISHING CORPORATION, UH, FOR THE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO LEGAL PUBLICATIONS, ONLINE DATABASES. 
          UH, WE, WE SUBSCRIBE TO WESTLAW. 
          THIS IS REALLY A WESTLAW AND, UM, WESTLAW IS PROVIDED LEGAL SERVICES, UH, LEGAL, LEGAL SUBSCRIPTION MATERIAL IN ELECTRONIC FORM AND SO FORTH FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST EVERY CITY ATTORNEY, EVERY ATTORNEY THAT DEALS IN THIS AREA HAS THIS, UH, IT'S COMMONPLACE. 
          UH, THE CURRENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED IN JANUARY 23. 
          THIS DOES INCLUDE A NEW, UH, WESTLAW, UH, SERVICE. 
          IT'S CALLED CO-COUNSEL THAT THEY BRING IN, UH, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE INTO THE CAPABILITIES, UH, WHICH WE FIND TO BE, UH, UH, AN EFFECTIVE ADD TO THIS. 
          UM, UNDER THE CURRENT AGREEMENT, THE SUBSCRIPTION FEE IS JUST UNDER 4,000, UH, DOLLARS PER MONTH. 
          IT IS, UH, INTENDED TO INCREASE TO, IT'S AT 39 68, UH, 11 CENTS. 
          THE MONTHLY FEE WOULD GO TO $4,449. 
          IT'S ABOUT 12% FOR 36 MONTHS WITH THE ANNUAL COST OF BEING, UH, 53,388. 
          UH, SO, UM, IT'S KIND OF STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          THEY'RE THE PROVIDER OF THE SERVICES. 
          WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY. 
          I THINK KRISTEN WOULD SAY SHE'S VERY HAPPY WITH THE SERVICES. 
          IT IS JUST A PART OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO WORK IN THE FIELD. 
          THEY ARE, WESTLAW IS RECOGNIZED AS THE PREMIER SOURCE FOR THOSE ONLINE PUBLICATIONS. 
          YOU DON'T LOOK TO ANYONE ELSE BUT THEM FOR THOSE IN THE DATABASES. 
          SO WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THEM. 
          AND KRISTEN, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO, I THINK YOU COVERED 
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IT. 
          SO, ON THE CO-COUNSEL, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO TEST DRIVE THAT AT ALL? I HAVE, YEAH. 
          IT'S REASONABLY HALLUCINATION FREE, I THINK. 
          SO AGAIN, WITH ANY AI LIKE YOU, I I WOULD PROBABLY ONLY USE IT FOR THINGS THAT I ALREADY REALLY, REALLY KNOW WELL. 
          SO, UM, BUT I OBVIOUSLY HOPE AND EXPECT IT'LL IMPROVE OVER TIME. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          NO, I MEAN, WE FOUND 'EM TO BE VERY, VERY USEFUL TOOLS, BUT, UH, REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SORT OF OVERSIGHT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YOU KNOW, SO LIKE A GOOD COLLABORATOR. 
          YES. 
          BUT, UH, YES. 
          SO NOW WE GET, WE GET A COMBINATION OF REAL INTELLIGENCE AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          , HOW ABOUT THAT? I HOPE YOU MEANT I WAS THE REAL . 
          I WAS LEANING THERE . 
          GOOD CALL. 
          ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          UH, CONSENT ITEM, UH, CONSENT AGENDA. 
          ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A RESOLUTION THAT REPEALS THE PREVIOUS SPEED HOME TRAFFIC CALMING POLICIES AND ADOPTS A COMBINED TRAFFIC COMMONING AND SPEED HOME POLICY. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT BEFORE WE GET INTO IT. 
          NOW, I HAVE NOT READ IT IN DEPTH 'CAUSE WE JUST GOT IT TUESDAY. 
          BUT THIS, HOW MUCH HAS IT CHANGED? I MEAN, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT THERE'S COMMUNITY INTEREST IN THAT I'VE NEVER BEEN COMFORTABLE PASSING IN HOLIDAY SEASON. 
          'CAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU 99% OF THE RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS. 
          YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL TUESDAY. 
          I'D RATHER DEFER IT UNTIL JANUARY. 
          YOU, YOU MAY HAVE NOT BEEN AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS. 
          I WAS NOT AT THAT LAST MEETING, SO I'LL, I'LL BE SURE AND COVER EVERYTHING IN THE END. 
          THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH CHANGE. 
          UM, IT'S MORE CLARIFICATION. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST GO OVER WHAT THE CHANGE IS THEN. 
          YEAH, WE'LL GO THROUGH IT. 
          BUT MOSTLY IT'S, IT'S CLARIFICATION OF PAST PRACTICE OR AT LEAST PREVALENT PAST PRACTICE. 
          MAYBE A FEW EXCEPTIONS TO THAT. 
          SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS, BUT HISTORICALLY WE'VE HAD A SPEED HUMP POLICY AND THEN WE'VE HAD TRAFFIC CALMING, WHICH FOR YOU GUYS TYPICALLY MEANS SPEED TABLES. 
          THERE ARE OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT'S WHAT USUALLY COMES UP. 
          AND SO, UH, THE CONVERSATION CAME OUT OF, UH, A KIND OF A A WE HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF NEIGHBORHOODS OCCASIONALLY THAT LOOK AT WANTING TO PUT, UH, SPEED CONTROL, SPEED TRAFFIC CALMING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND, UH, BEL RI WAS ONE OF THOSE, AND THEIR ELECTION DIDN'T PASS. 
          IT'S CLOSE, BUT IT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT. 
          AND SO THAT PROMPTED SOME CONVERSATIONS. 
          AND WE WORKED WITH CHAD GROUT, PAUL SANDERSON FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND, AND THEY HAD SOME, SOME SUGGESTIONS AND THOUGHTS. 
          AND WE SAT DOWN AND MET, UH, A FEW TIMES AND REALLY TALKED ABOUT THOSE. 
          AND, AND THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MIND IS WE SAID, WE DO NEED TO AT LEAST REVIEW THIS BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT THERE'S CERTAIN PRACTICES THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A WHILE THAT WE'VE APPLIED THAT WEREN'T WRITTEN IN, AND WE FELT SOME OF THAT SHOULD BE WRITTEN IN. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE MOSTLY. 
          AND SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THIS. 
          UM, BUT, UH, AND SO STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING, FIRST IS A CLARIFICATION THAT THE POLICY, UH, BOTH POLICIES ARE APPLICABLE ONLY TO PUBLIC STREETS AND NOT PRIVATE AID SUBDIVISIONS. 
          AND THAT WAS IN THE LAST CONVERSATION. 
          THAT'S HOW WE'VE APPLIED IT. 
          WE JUST WOULDN'T WANT, UH, IN A PRIVATE, UH, SUBDIVISION WITH PRIVATE STREETS FOR THEM TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO DO THIS, AND WE'RE SUBJECT TO THE CITY POLICY WHEN THEY'RE NOT. 
          THEY COULD USE IT AS A GUIDELINE IF THEY WANTED TO, BUT THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO IT. 
          SO THAT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION. 
          WE HAVE A CLARIFICATION THAT THE MINIMUM SEPARATION BETWEEN TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES OR HUMPS IS 300 FEET TO 600 FEET. 
          THAT'S BEEN A PAST PRACTICE AS WELL. 
          AND SO THAT IS CLARIFIED IN HERE, UH, CLARIFICATION THAT SEPARATE VOTES ARE REQUIRED FOR EACH IMPROVEMENT. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE A, A, A LENGTH OF STREET THAT MIGHT HAVE, LET'S SAY THREE SPEED, UH, TABLES IN IT, WHEN WE DO THE ELECTION, AND HISTORICALLY HOW THIS HAS WORKED IS IT'S NOT ONE ELECTION FOR ALL THREE. 
          AND AND IT'S ALL OCCURS AT THE SAME TIME CONCURRENTLY. 
          BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RESULTS, IT'S ABOUT EACH ONE WITHIN THE DISTANCE OF EACH PIECE. 
          AND SO, UH, THAT ENSURES THAT, THAT THOSE ALONG THE STREET, UH, ARE VOTING ON THE, THE IMPACT IN FRONT OF BASICALLY IN FRONT OF THEM. 
          AND SO THAT'S BEEN THE PRACTICE HISTORICALLY. 
          IT HASN'T BEEN CLEAR IN THE, UH, POLICY. 
          SO THAT'S BEEN MADE CLEAR AS WELL. 
          A ADDITIONALLY TO THAT, HISTORICALLY, MOST OF THE TIME THOSE THAT VOTE HAVE BEEN ALONG THE STREET OF WHICH THESE ARE INSTALLED NOT SIDE STREETS. 
          NOW THERE HAS BEEN, I BELIEVE, AN EXCEPTION TO THAT IN THE PAST. 
          WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT AND FELT THAT IT WAS BETTER TO KEEP IT THERE BECAUSE YOU MAY, WHATEVER YOU DO, IF YOU, THIS GOES BACK TO COMMISSIONER, KIND OF CONCERNS THAT IF YOU CHANGE SOMETHING TOO MUCH, SOMEONE MIGHT REALLY LIKE IT AND SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT REALLY NOT LIKE IT. 
          AND SO WE FELT LIKE IF WE CHANGED THE APPROACH OF GOING TO THE SIDE STREETS, IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE ARBITRARY ABOUT WHERE YOU STOP. 
          AND IT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR ME ON THE SIDE STREET TO SAY, UH, EITHER YES OR NO. 
          BUT IT COULD BE THAT I SAY I DON'T LIKE THOSE SPEED TABLES, BUT ALSO I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH SPEEDING ON MY STREET. 
          SO IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO SAY NO, 
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UH, COMPARED TO SOMEONE WHO MAY HAVE IT IN FRONT AND DEALS WITH THE SPEEDING, UH, AS WELL AS THE IMPACT OF THE TABLE. 
          SO WE DECIDED TO LEAVE THAT THE SAME AND JUST CLARIFY THAT THE VOTING FOLKS ARE ALONG THE STREET OF WHICH THE IMPROVEMENTS AND WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF WHICH THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE. 
          AND SO TYPICALLY WE USE THAT, THAT DISTANCE. 
          AND NOW HISTORICALLY, IT GOES INTO AN ITEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME AS WELL. 
          THE POLICY HISTORICALLY SET ON THE BOOKENDS ON THE ENDS. 
          YOU GO OUT A THOUSAND FEET. 
          AND, AND THAT QUESTION WAS A GOOD QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT SAID, WHY IS THAT? WELL, WE REALLY COULDN'T FIND A SPECIFIC REASON FOR THAT. 
          SO IT WAS A A BIT ARBITRARY. 
          SO WE SAID, OKAY, SO WITHIN YOU'RE THREE TO 600 FEET, WHY WOULDN'T YOU BE THREE TO 600 FEET ON THE ENDS? WHY A THOUSAND FEET? AS WE LOOKED AT IT, WE SAID, IT MAKES SENSE TO SAY NO MORE THAN SIX, OR WE GO TO 600 FEET ON THE ENDS. 
          BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, IMPACTS OF LIKE STOP SIGNS AND OTHER IMPEDIMENTS. 
          SO IF, IF THEY'RE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF A STOP SIGN OR ANOTHER IMPEDIMENT THAT CHANGES IT. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WERE, IF IF 500 FEET OUT THERE'S, UH, OR 550 FEET OUT, THERE'S A INTERSECTION WITH A STOP SIGN, IT DOESN'T REALLY, THAT INTERSECTION AND STOP SIGN WILL BE A FACTOR FOR THE SPEED OF THE VEHICLE. 
          IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO GO ANOTHER 50 FEET TO GET TO 600, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A LITTLE DISCRETION IN THERE BASED ON IF THERE'S AN INTERSECTION, STOP SIGN THINKS LIKE THAT, OR OTHER IMPEDIMENT WE SEE. 
          NOW, ONE CHANGE WE DID MAKE IS, IS HISTORICALLY WE'VE ALLOWED 30 DAYS FOR THE ELECTION. 
          WE'RE RE UH, RECOMMENDING 45 DAYS FOR THE ELECTION. 
          SO ADDING 15 DAYS TO THE ELECTION, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT IS, IS IT CAME BACK TO US THAT, UH, OFTENTIMES WHETHER SOMEONE LIKES OR DOESN'T LIKE THE PROPOSAL, UM, THEY WANT SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO RECOGNIZE WHAT IT IS, BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE. 
          IF THEY WANNA COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE HOA, IF THERE IS ONE, THAT'S FINE. 
          HOWEVER THEY WANNA DO THAT, TO HAVE SOME TIME TO DO THAT BEFORE THE ELECTION ENDS. 
          AND SO WE FELT ADDING 15 DAYS MAKES SENSE. 
          IT GIVES 'EM A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO DO THAT. 
          NOW, PART OF WHAT WAS ASKED IS THE IDEA THAT IN THE ELECTION, A COUPLE THINGS, UH, REALLY, BUT ONE OF THEM IS, IS IS THAT, BUT WHEN YOU, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE LISTENING AUDIENCE EXPLAIN ELECTION, BECAUSE YEAH, WE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT THEY MAY NOT KNOW QUESTION WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          YEAH. 
          THE WAY THAT TYPICALLY WORKS IS, AND, AND USUALLY WE'RE WORKING THROUGH AN HOA NOW, IT, IT, IT CAN HAPPEN THAT YOU'RE NOT. 
          AND SO WE ALSO PUT IN, UH, BASICALLY HOW DOES A NON HOA NEIGHBORHOOD EVEN TRIGGER US LOOKING AT THAT. 
          AND THERE'S A KIND OF A MINOR PETITION ELECTION THERE, BUT GENERALLY YOU'RE WORKING WITH AN HOA AND THERE'S AN ELECTION, UH, OR A PETITION IN ESSENCE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS ONCE WE DETERMINE ALL OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE AREA THAT ARE GOING TO VOTE, BASED ON WHERE THE ENHANCEMENTS WILL BE, WHERE THESE SPEED TABLES OR HUMPS MIGHT BE, UM, WHAT WE HAS HISTORICALLY DONE IS PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION AND THE HOA SENDS IT OUT TO EACH OF THE RESIDENTS. 
          AND THEN THE RESIDENTS SEND IN A, BASICALLY LIKE A LITTLE PETITION DOCUMENT THAT COMES BACK TO US THAT TELLS US IF THEY APPROVE OR THEY DON'T APPROVE OR THEY MAY NOT SEND ANYTHING BACK. 
          AND SO THEN, THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE TABULATE WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT SINCE WE ALREADY PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST CONDUCT THE WHOLE THING. 
          SO IN ESSENCE, WE WOULD SEND IT OUT TO THE RESIDENTS, SAME KIND OF FORM. 
          THEY FILL IT OUT, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO, TO SEND IT BACK IN OR NOT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE CALL AN ELECTION. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A PETITION THAT WE HELP TAKE CARE OF. 
          I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER THEY HAVE TO REACH AS FAR AS A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO A NO, UH, UH, NOT VOTING IS A NO VOTE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND IT'S TWO THIRDS IS THE NUMBER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S A SUPER MAJORITY OF TWO THIRDS. 
          AND THAT'S NOT CHANGING EITHER. 
          NOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THERE WAS A, THERE IS A DESIRE PERHAPS BY THOSE THAT REALLY WANNA SEE THESE TO MAKE IT A 50%, 51%. 
          UM, WE LEFT IT JUST BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, THAT'S WHAT IT HAS BEEN IN THE, UNLESS YOU GUYS SAY THAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT, UH, WE LEFT IT THE SAME. 
          WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T WANNA CHANGE THAT. 
          UM, THERE, THERE WAS AN OTHER QUESTION ON THE, ON THOSE WHO DON'T, UH, PARTICIPATE. 
          THERE WAS A THOUGHT THAT IF YOU DON'T PARTICIPATE, YOUR VOTE SHOULDN'T BE COUNTED EITHER WAY. 
          SO LET'S PRETEND THAT YOU HAVE 40 PROPERTIES, 50 PROPERTIES IN AN AREA, AND HALF OF 'EM DON'T PARTICIPATE. 
          THAT MEANS IF IT'S 50, THEN MAYBE 25 DICTATE THAT. 
          THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, IS OUR BELIEF, AND YOU COULD TELL ME THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS A WHILE, THAT THE INTENT IS TO, WITH THIS PETITION OR ELECTION PROCESS, IS FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT A STRONG MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE NOT NECESSARILY PARTICIPATE, BUT THAT LIVE THERE WANNA SEE THIS, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF THEIR, IF YOU GIVE THEM A KIND OF GOVERNANCE ROLE IN THIS, AND IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO DO IT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU, BUT IF YOU GET A TWO THIRDS VOTE FROM THE FOLKS WHO LIVE ALONG THERE, YOU TYPICALLY GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. 
          AND SO WE FELT LIKE IF WE, IF WE ELIMINATE THOSE WHO, UH, 
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DON'T PARTICIPATE, WHO DON'T SEND IN THE FORM, THERE COULD BE SOME BIG SURPRISES AT THE END OF THE ELECTION. 
          THERE COULD ALSO BE SOME WAYS FOR OR AGAINST IT THAT SOMEONE COULD MANIPULATE THOSE RESULTS A LITTLE BIT TOO. 
          SO, SO WE FELT LIKE LEAVING THAT THE SAME TWO THIRDS, UM, AND, AND, UH, IT'S TWO THIRDS OF ALL THE PROPERTIES, EVERYONE WHO HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE. 
          SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU THAT TWO THIRDS OF THE AFFECTED NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG THE STREET HAVE SAID YES. 
          AND YOU HAVE PRETTY STRONG CONSENSUS. 
          GENERALLY, DO THEY KNOW WHO THE TWO THIRDS ARE? I MEAN, ARE THEY GIVEN SAY FROM 1201 HARE DRIVE TO 13 SOMETHING HARE DRIVE? DO THEY KNOW IN THE INFORMATION WE SEND THEM THE HOUSEHOLDS DOWN THERE? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY, GO AHEAD. 
          WE PROVIDE THEM A MAP WHEN WE FIRST TALK TO 'EM AND YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TWO THIRDS, THE INITIAL SHOWING OF INTEREST. 
          IF IT'S A NON HOA NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S 50%, WE JUST WANNA KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY HALF THE PEOPLE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF SUCH THING FOR US TO GO SPEND MONEY ON THE ENGINEERING. 
          THAT FINAL VOTE IS THE TWO THIRDS MM-HMM . 
          UM, BUT YES, WE PROVIDE 'EM A MAP SO THAT THE ORGANIZERS OF THE THING, UH, OF THE PETITION WILL KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHICH HOUSES ARE FOUNDED, WHICH, OKAY, GOOD. 
          YEP. 
          UH, THOSE ARE THE MAJORITY. 
          YES, JANET, I KNOW BOTH AS A CITIZEN AND AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND AS, AS A CITY COMMISSIONER, THIS IS AN ISSUE, DEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART. 
          YES. 
          YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS . 
          YOU'RE ALSO A, A FAIRLY ANALYTICAL, UH, DIVIDUAL AND SOMEBODY THAT TWO HOUSES HAVE BEEN ON STREETS WITH SPEED HOMES, SO YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO HOW DOES IT STRIKE YOU? I, I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'VE GONE DOWN TO 600 FEET, YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE MOST AFFECTED. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT THE STOP SIGNS. 
          SO, UH, I THINK THAT'LL TAKE, I STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE NON-RESPONDERS COUNTING AS PEOPLE WHO ARE NO VOTES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT REASONS WHY THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING. 
          SO IT CAN BE, BUT I LIKE THE, THE, THE, I GUESS THE HAZARD IS, IS IF YOU GET SOMEBODY THAT, UH, KEEPS IT A SECRET AND GETS 10 PEOPLE TO VOTE IN FAVOR AND GETS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE RESPONDENTS, RIGHT, WELL, THERE'S THAT , YOU KNOW, NOT THEY, ANYONE WOULD DO THAT. 
          BUT THE CITY IS SENDING OUT THE BALLOTS THOUGH. 
          BUT SOMEBODY COULD CONTACT THEM AND SAY, DON'T CHANGE HOA AND NON HOA. 
          YES. 
          BUT SOMEBODY COULD, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY SENT IT OUT, SOMEBODY ELSE COULD CONTACT 'EM AND SAY, DON'T WORRY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE. 
          IT'S ALL DONE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I THINK YOU GOTTA HAVE THE, ARE THEY SENT CERTIFIED? LIKE IF MY NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF I DON'T THINK THEY'RE SENT, ARE THEY, OR, YOU KNOW, SO WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, AS WE CHANGE THE PROCESS, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL ARE NOT DISCLOSED WITH A, UH, OPEN RECORDS ACT REQUEST. 
          SO WE WILL, WE WILL SEND IT OUT TO EACH OF THEM WITH A RANDOMIZED CODE THAT PLEASE GO TO THIS WEBSITE, ENTER THIS CODE, BUT YOU WON'T KNOW WHICH CODE WENT TO WHICH HOMEOWNER, BUT WE'LL KNOW IT'S A LEGITIMATE VOTE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY DISTINCT SIX OR SEVEN DIGIT CODE. 
          UM, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WELL, NO, I MEANT THE SURVEY, IS IT SENT LIKE WHEN MY MAIL, CERTIFIED MAIL OR REGULAR MAIL? YEAH. 
          TO, TO IS IT REGISTERED OR CERTIFIED MAIL? I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS. 
          IS IT NOT USUALLY WE JUST MAIL 'EM OUT. 
          I'M JUST CURIOUS. 
          I CERTIFIED WOULD BE PRETTY, PRETTY EXTENSIVE. 
          BOTH EXPENSE-WISE AND ADMINISTRATIVELY. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL OF IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU'RE WORRY ABOUT SOMEBODY GETTING YOUR BALLOT. 
          WELL, OR JUST KNOWING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OH, THAT THEY RECEIVE IT. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE, YEAH. 
          YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU START TOSSING THE JUNK MAIL AND YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY, YOU THINK IT'S JUST A, A FLYER OR FOR MEDICINE? WELL, IT DOES, IT SAYS CITY OF BRENTWOOD. 
          I, I WOULD TEND TO OPEN SOMETHING THAT I GOT FROM THE CITY, I THINK, AND IF THEY DON'T SHAME ON THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T MONITOR ALL ADULT BEHAVIOR. 
          YEAH. 
          WE MAY BE ABLE TO STAMP THE ENVELOPES WITH, YOU KNOW, BACK CLOSED OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT OR IMPORTANT NOTICE INSIDE. 
          SO THINK YOU'VE DONE GOOD WORK ON THIS, BUT KNOWING, KNOWING HOW LOUD IT GETS WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES UP, SHOULD, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS TAKEN OFF CONSENT AND JUST BROUGHT TO REGULAR AGENDA, JUST SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THESE POINTS. 
          I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD. 
          WE CAN DO THAT. 
          JANET CAN MAKE HER POINT ALSO JUST CLARIFY THAT. 
          SO IT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          THE, UM, PETITION PART OF THE, OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS, UH, WHERE WE NEED 50%. 
          ARE THOSE PETITIONS THAT FOR BOTH HOA AND NON HOA, UM, THAT WE HAVE A FORMAL MECHANISM OF THIS? IS THE PETITION CLEARLY SPELLING OUT, OR IS IT JUST A LIST OF SIGNATURES THEY OBTAINED OR WHAT'S THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT LOOKS LIKE. 
          YEAH, SO THAT'S FOR THE NON HOA, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE HOA COMMUNITY CAN JUST USE THEIR HOA AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE TO MAKE THEIR REQUEST. 
          UM, THE, WE, WE TRIED TO MAKE THAT A LOSS LESS FORMAL PROCESS SO THAT YOU, YOU CAN GO DOOR TO DOOR, KNOCK ON, AND YOU CAN GET, YOU KNOW, SIGNATURES. 
          OKAY. 
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AND THAT JUST KIND OF GETS THE BALL ROLLING. 
          UH, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO A FORMAL VOTE, WE WANTED THAT TO BE A BALLOT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IN AN, IN AN HOA CONTROLLED NEIGHBORHOOD, LET'S SAY YOU JUST HAVE THE ONE STREET, YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S WHERE THE SPEEDING IS AN ISSUE, THE RESIDENTS OF THAT STREET HAVE TO CONVINCE THEIR HOA TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, I, I SEE THAT ALREADY AS A PROBLEM. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE IT AND, AND IT WAS A PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE GOT THEM BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY, YOU KNOW, MANY HOUSES THAT WERE AFFECTED OUT OF 400. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU, TO BE ABLE, IF THE HOA HAS TO APPROVE THE PROCESS, THEN WE'VE TAKEN IT AWAY FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS ON THE STREET THAT'S AFFECTED. 
          THAT'S A, THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. 
          AND THAT'S A SELF-GOVERNANCE QUESTION THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT, BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT THE REASON YOU'VE PUT THAT IN THE HANDS OF THE HOA IS BECAUSE OA IS ALREADY THERE TO HELP GOVERN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU WANT TO HONOR THAT AND ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT. 
          I, NO, NO, NO. 
          I DON'T LIVE IN AN HOA AND I'M THRILLED TO DEATH BY THAT, I MEAN, I'VE NEVER WANNA LIVE UNDER ONE. 
          THEY'RE, THEY GOVERN WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD RULES. 
          THIS IS THE CITY RULE, RIGHT? SO I'M ALL WITH JANET BYPASS 'EM. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S A CHOICE YOU HAVE. 
          I DON'T REFLECT BADLY ON HOAS, BUT THEY CONTROL ENOUGH OF WHAT GOES ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ONE, ONE THING TO THINK OF THOUGH IS WITH REGARD TO SPEED HUMPS, THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A COST SHARE ARRANGEMENT. 
          AND SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T COME UP WITH 60%. 
          AND USUALLY, WELL, I THOUGHT THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAD IT CAME UP WITH THE MONEY. 
          RIGHT? NOT THE HOA. 
          SO IN, IN, IN MOST OF THEM, THE HOA HAS COME UP WITH RIGHT? THE, THE MONEY. 
          WELL, THAT'S VERY GENEROUS UP THERE. 
          I  THEY GET SOMETHING BACK. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT, FROM A, SO I THINK WHAT, JASON, FROM A LOGISTICAL PERSPECTIVE, WE WANTED TO HAVE A PRO, WE, THERE WAS NO INDICATION EARLY ON, UH, IN EARLIER CONVERSATION TO GET AWAY FROM AN HOA WHERE THERE IS AN HOA. 
          NOW THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD DO. 
          IF, IF THE MAJORITY OF YOU SAID, YEP, LET'S BYPASS HOA AND LET'S DO A STRAIGHT ELECTION, WE COULD DO THAT. 
          WE NEED TO GO BACK AND MODIFY SOME THINGS IN HERE, I THINK, AND PROB MAYBE EVEN RETHINK THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROCESS OF, ARE YOU INTERESTED AT ALL? A LITTLE BIT. 
          AT LEAST TALK ABOUT IT. 
          UM, WE COULD DO THAT. 
          SO THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT RIGHT. 
          OUR INTENT WAS REALLY ON THAT ONE, JUST TO STAY WITH WHERE YOU'VE HAD IT FOR ALL THESE YEARS ON THE ASSUMPTION YOU WERE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. 
          IF NOT, THAT'S FINE. 
          UM, SO, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE ALLOWED THE HOA TO TRIGGER THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, PROJECTS IN ESSENCE AND THE FORMAL ELECTION FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS WHERE THERE IS AN HOA AND OF COURSE WHERE THERE ISN'T, THEN THERE'S A SEPARATE, UH, KIND OF A, I CALL IT A PRE-ELECTION OR PRELIMINARY ELECTION PROCESS TO DO THAT. 
          BUT THE PAYMENT ASPECT IS, IS OF INTEREST BECAUSE IN A NON HOA ENVIRONMENT, YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUALS. 
          AND ONE OF THE PROVISIONS HERE IS THAT, THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW THE LAST TIME WE'VE HAD A NON HOA, BUT, UH, ONCE, IF YOU DO HAVE AN APPROVED PETITION AND YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD NEED TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS WITHIN SIX MONTHS. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T RECEIVE THE FUNDS AND YOU END UP CARRYING IT, THIS WOULD BE FOR HUMPS, FOR SPEED HUMPS, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH SPEED TABLES. 
          UM, THEN THE, THEN THE, IT EXPIRES. 
          AND, AND SO THAT COULD BE A FACTOR WITH SPEED HUMPS, ALTHOUGH WE TYPICALLY SEE MORE TABLE PROJECTS THAN WE DO HUMPS, JUST BECAUSE THOSE ARE MORE ON COLLECTOR TYPE STREETS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE YOU TYPICALLY SEE THE NEED MORE. 
          SO, UH, BUT ON HUMPS THAT'S AN ISSUE. 
          SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, IS YOU WOULDN'T BE RELYING ON AN HOA FOR ONE ENTITY TO WRITE YOU A CHECK FOR IT. 
          YOU WOULD LITERALLY BE EXPECTING IN A PERIOD OF TIME, EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO THAT. 
          NOW, THAT'S OKAY. 
          IT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT, WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE END RESULT OF IT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, YOU COULD HAVE A VOTE THAT SAYS, YEAH, WE'RE GOOD, BUT ARE YOU GONNA COLLECT IN THE TIMEFRAME TO BE GOOD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT OR NOT? I DON'T KNOW. 
          UNTIL WE, WE DO THAT, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. 
          I THINK WE WERE ONE OF THE TWO ORIGINAL STREETS WITH THEM, AND THE PEOPLE ON THAT STREET ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PAID FOR IT. 
          IT DID NOT COME FROM THE HOA, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS OPPOSED TO IT. 
          SO THE MONEY WAS COLLECTED FROM THOSE OF US THAT, THAT SIGNED THE PETITION IN, IN AN, IN AN NON OHA NEIGHBORHOOD? NO, WE HAD AN HOAI DON'T, BUT THE HOA WE WERE, BUT WE'RE TALKING, THIS IS 1997. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE SPEAKING MORE TO THE MORE RECENT ONES IN THE 12. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I JUST, I MEAN, I JUST SEE THAT HAVING BEEN IN A BIG NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT AND YOU JUST HAVE ONE STREET THAT'S AFFECTED, IT'S NOT GONNA GO WELL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT. 
          AND, AND IT WASN'T HER IMAGINATION EITHER. 
          THEIR SECTION, EVERY CAR GOING TO EDMONDSON ELEMENTARY WENT PAST THEIR HOUSE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES AFFECTED. 
          IF IT'S IN A NON HOA THAT, THAT IS THEN THE LAW WOULD BE 
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CONSISTENT AS WELL. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE UNDER AN HOA MIGHT SAY, WELL, WE'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT. 
          THEY MAY ALREADY KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY TALKED TO ALL THEIR NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE WITHIN THE 600 FEET. 
          SO I'M FINE EITHER WAY 'CAUSE THEY ALSO COULD TURN IT OVER. 
          BUT LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S 80 HOUSES OF 400. 
          YOU, YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY GO TURN OVER THE HOA BOARD AT THE NEXT ELECTION BECAUSE YOU STILL ARE OUTNUMBERED. 
          SO, BUT MOST OF THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS ARE HOA AND AND THE OLDER ONES THAT ARE THERE HAVEN'T, HADN'T THAT KIND OF BEEN ADDRESSED WITH SOME OF THOSE, LIKE RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE HEARING MOSTLY FROM HOA PEOPLE. 
          YEAH. 
          I WAS GONNA ADD, JAY, DO YOU, DO YOU RECALL THE LAST TIME WE HAD A NON HOA PETITION INTEREST? WAS RIE RE HAVE AN I WE'VE, WE HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME DEPENDING ON THE ROAD AND THE NEED FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS WHERE, AND THIS IS A QUESTION THAT'S MORE CURRENT, WHERE YOU MAY HAVE AN HOA, BUT IT MAY EXTEND INTO AN NON HOA AS WELL. 
          THAT ONE, IN THAT CASE, THE NON H HOAS, I, IT PROBABLY DEPENDS ON WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE, OF THE AREA THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THESE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE. 
          BUT USUALLY TRIGGERED BY THE HOA, BUT THE NON HOA GET TO GET TO VOTE IN THAT. 
          UH, BUT THE TRIGGERING WOULD BE BY THE HOA. 
          UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE PURE NON HOA, DO YOU RECALL LAST TIME RECENTLY? I CAN'T THINK OF IT. 
          KRISTEN, CAN YOU? NO, I, YEAH. 
          DALE, CAN YOU THINK OF ANY, WHERE WE'VE INSTALLED TRAFFIC CALMING IN NON HOA COMMUNITIES AND UP SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE? NOT IN MY TENURE THAT I KNOW OF. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN HOA, THERE'S, THERE WAS A SMALL REQUEST, UM, I JUST WENT BLANK AROUND THE COVINGTON AREA, UM, THAT SHE, SHE HAD SAID THEY DID NOT HAVE AN HOA, WHICH I HAD AT THE TIME. 
          WE WERE REWRITING THIS. 
          SO I ASKED TO, SO WE GOT SOME CLARIFICATION ON SOME THINGS, AND I WOULD REACH BACK OUT TO HER AFTER THIS. 
          SO. 
          RIGHT. 
          JUST REAL QUICK, ONE OTHER, UH, CHANGE IN HERE. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          THE, AND THIS CAME BACK FROM THE LAST MEETING CONVERSATION AS WELL, IS THAT PROVISION THAT ANY SUB, IF, IF YOU HAVE AN ELECTION AND A FAILED SUBSEQUENT REQUEST, UH, WOULD NEED TO BE 24 MONTHS OUT, UH, FROM THE, UH, END OF THE LAST ONE. 
          UM, IT'S NOT A BIG CHANGE. 
          UH, WE REALLY DIDN'T SAY WHAT THAT WOULD BE BEFORE WE SORT OF IN PRACTICE SET A YEAR. 
          UH, BUT, UH, IT'D BE 24 MONTHS, UH, UNDER THAT, UH, BASED ON THE INPUT FROM LAST TIME. 
          SO I GUESS, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OTHER ASPECTS, THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS I PROBABLY NEED TO GET SOME CLARITY ON AS WE THINK ABOUT MOVING THIS. 
          AND THAT MAY MEAN MOVING IT OUT ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS FINE IF WE NEED TO. 
          BUT, UH, LET ME START WITH WHAT I THINK IS EASIER ONE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THE, UH, ELIMINATION OF NON-VOTER RESPONSES IN THE TOTALS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE? OR DO YOU WANNA STAY WITH, IN ESSENCE, TWO THIRDS OF THE ALL FOLKS AFFECTED ALONG THE ROADWAY? THAT'S, BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY BIG QUESTION. 
          TWO THIRDS STAY WITH TWO THIRDS. 
          I AGREE. 
          TWO THIRDS OF THE RESPONDERS, OR TWO THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT GOT BALLOT. 
          TWO THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE. 
          'CAUSE IT BE CAUGHT REAL CONTROVERSIAL IF WE DID. 
          UM, AND IT'S JUST LIKE IN AN ELECTION, IF YOU REALLY LIKE A CANDIDATE AND YOU DON'T GO VOTE, THAT'S A NO VOTE. 
          NOW LET, LET ME, LET ME MAKE SURE THERE'S A YES, EXACTLY. 
          MAKE SURE THERE'S A TOTAL UNDERSTANDING AS, AS A GOVERNING BODY, IF YOU WANTED TO, RIGHT. 
          YOU, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN AREA THAT'S UNSAFE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT, THEY'RE YOUR STREETS. 
          YOU COULD GO IN AND PUT THESE IMPROVEMENTS IF YOU WANT TO. 
          THIS IS JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU ESPECIALLY THAT ARE NEW, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE'VE USED TO ALLOW SELF-GOVERNANCE, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU'VE CHOSEN TO DO THAT. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          BUT, UH, SO, SO IF WE DID HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAD 80 RESIDENTS AND THEY DID LIVE ON A STREET THAT BECOME A THOROUGHFARE, AND THEY TRIED THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, THEY COME AND TELL US WE'VE TRIED THE HOA VOTED IT DOWN AND THEN TRIED AGAIN, AND THEY VOTED IT DOWN. 
          AND WE REALLY FEEL LIKE IT IS A SAFETY SITUATION. 
          THE COMMISSION CAN GO IN AND SAY, WELL, WE MAY JUST NEED TO DO, SO WE, WE STILL COULD DO THAT. 
          I KNOW THAT WOULD BE VERY CONTROVERSIAL, BUT WITHOUT THE OVERALL HOA APPROVAL YEAH. 
          FROM A A A, A PURE LEGAL STANDPOINT RESPONSE IS YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN YOUR STREETS. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S REALLY THAT SIMPLE. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, BUT IF, IF WE DID THAT, THAT WOULDN'T WE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR THE ENTIRE THING? YOU, YOU WOULD NOW ON TRAFFIC COM OR ON, UH, TRAFFIC TABLES. 
          UH, YOU DO THAT ANYWAY. 
          WELL, THAT'S DIFFERENT. 
          THAT'S LESS EXPENSE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU WOULD DO THAT ANYWAY THERE ON HUMPS SPEED HUMPS, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A SHARED AMOUNT. 
          SO YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD PAY FOR, ACCORDING TO RAY, IF WE SAID WE DIDN'T, YOUR NEIGHBORS DIDN'T LIKE THE RESULTS. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA OVERRIDE THAT, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE UP TO US TO PAY FOR ALL OF IT IF WE'RE GONNA OVERRIDE THE VOTE. 
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YEAH, YOU COULDN'T, YOU COULDN'T BECAUSE IT'S, THIS IS REALLY AN AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT OR NOT GET IT. 
          SO ABSOLUTELY. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          RIGHT. 
          NO, NO. 
          IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF MAKING SURE YOU KNOW, THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORITY TO ADD TRAFFIC CONTROL MEASURES ON YOUR STREETS IF YOU SHOULD CHOOSE TO. 
          WELL, IT'S JUST NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU WOULD USE THAT IN PLACE AT THIS POLICY. 
          WE, WE, WE MADE IMPROVEMENTS, NO SPEED HUMPS OR SPEED TABLES. 
          JOHNSON CHAPEL WHERE WE PUT UP SOME GUARDRAILS, PUT UP SOME SUN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO SPEND MONEY JUST TO MAKE THINGS SAFER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT'S SIMPLY WHAT WE'D BE DOING. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA PUT HUNDREDS OF YEAH. 
          IF WE, IF WE, IF WE CAME TO YOU AFTER LOOKING AT A, AN AREA AND SAID THIS, WE CLEARLY THINK THIS IS CLEARLY UNSAFE AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE TELLING YOU THAT. 
          SO IT DOESN'T COME UP VERY OFTEN. 
          AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE TELLING US AS WELL. 
          I WOULD THINK SO. 
          YEAH. 
          SOMERSET, THAT JUST HAPPENED AFTER WE HAD THAT CHILD GOT HIT A YEAR AGO AND THEN WE, WE HAD OUR ENGINEERS LOOK AT IT AND SAID, THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS PUT IN BULB OUTS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THERE WERE SOME FOLKS WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE THIS, DON'T WE GET TO VOTE ON IT? AND WE'RE LIKE, NO, THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND WE GOTTA PROTECT THESE KIDS. 
          WE'RE GONNA PUT 'EM IN AND SEE HOW IT WORKS. 
          BY THE WAY, SO FAR, I THINK IT'S WORKING FINE. 
          YES. 
          THAT WE PAID FOR IT. 
          SO, SO JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY AND MAKE SURE I'M THINKING THE SAME THING YOU GUYS ARE. 
          SO IF YOU LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOUR STREET IS SUBJECT TO SPEEDING AND YOU HAVE AN HOA, DO YOU NEED, CAN YOU, AS THE RESIDENCE OF THAT STREET GET A PETITION WITH 50% OR MORE OF THE PEOPLE AFFECTED AND GIVE IT TO THE HOA AND THEY HAVE TO ACT ON IT? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO COME DIRECTLY FROM THE HOA AND THEY DON'T NEED A PETITION AND THEY DON'T NEED 50%? MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IN, IN HOW IT'S DRAWN UP AND HOW IT'S BEEN APPLIED IS, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT IN AN HOA NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY ARE THE GATEKEEPER TO WHETHER A ABSENT US STEPPING IN AS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT ABSENT THAT, THEY'RE THE GATEKEEPER TO WHETHER AN ELECTION OR PETITION ELECTION IS HELD TO ADD IMPROVEMENTS UNDER THE POLICY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, SO THAT LEADS INTO THE SECOND QUESTION. 
          IF EVERYBODY'S, UH, UH, JUST ONE ANOTHER, JUST QUICK QUESTION. 
          SO SAY IF THERE'S A CIRCUMSTANCE, NOT WHERE IT WAS THIS HUGELY CONTROVERSIAL THING, BUT IF IT WAS JUST A SITUATION OF MAYBE APATHY WHERE THEY DIDN'T GET ENOUGH VOTES, BUT THE COMMISSION REALLY WANTED TO DO IT ANYWAY, JUST IF WE DID IT ANYWAY BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WASN'T REALLY ENGAGED. 
          BUT DOES THAT CREATE THE KIND OF LEGAL JEOPARDY THAT YOU'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT? NO, BECAUSE IF WE THINK IT'S REASON ENOUGH FOR SAFETY, THEN ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I WOULD TELL YOU TOO, I IF, IF WE LOOK AT A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FOR THOSE REASONS AND, UH, AND YOU HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT WANTS TO DO POTENTIALLY AN ELECTION AN HOA OR NON HOA NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AND WE DETERMINE, NOW THIS IS VERY SIGNIFICANT, VERY IMMEDIATE, VERY URGENT. 
          UM, I THINK YOU SHOULD EXPECT US TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, UM, YEAH, THERE'S A PROCESS HERE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE THINK AHEAD OF TIME. 
          BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO BE IN THE POSITION EVEN THOUGH IT MAY, THERE'S NO LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF HAVING A VOTE DOWN, THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND DO IT ANYWAY. 
          IF YOU'RE GONNA CHOOSE TO DO IT ANYWAY, WE MIGHT, WE SHOULD PUT THAT IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          WE NEED TO DO THIS. 
          THAT'S A FAIR POINT. 
          IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          IT DOES. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE IT WOULD BE REALLY CONVENIENT TO SAY, WELL, LET'S DON'T VOTE, AND THEN THE CITY WILL COME IN AND, AND THEY'LL PAY FOR FOR IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ME, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE REAL SMART TO FIGURE THAT OUT, . 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I WAS THINKING, UM, AND SO THE, UH, BUT COMING BACK TO THAT ON THE, ON THE PARTICIPATION OF THE VOTE. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IN THIS IS, IS ALL OF THOSE WITHIN THE DISTANCES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ALONG THE ROADWAY, ALL THOSE PROPERTIES GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE. 
          AND RIGHT NOW FOR A, IT'S TWO THIRDS OF, OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL, OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS, NOT OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE VOTE. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S IF THERE'S 50 PROPERTIES, IT'S TWO THIRDS OF THE 50 MM-HMM . 
          BUT LET'S SAY ONLY 25 VOTE TODAY, IT'S NOT TWO THIRDS OF THE 25 THAT VOTE IS TWO THIRDS OF THE 50. 
          I WOULD, AND AND AGAIN, I THAT WOULD TELL YOU THAT YOU JUST HAVE A MAJORITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU WON'T WANNA KEEP DOING IT THAT WAY. 
          I'M SAYING THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE REASON IS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW THAT AT LEAST TWO THIRDS, MAJORITY OF THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WANTING TO DO THAT. 
          NOT POTENTIALLY A MINORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          NOW THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS, AND THAT'S PART OF THE, PART OF THE ISSUE. 
          UH, THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS THAT SOME FOLKS DON'T PERHAPS SUBMIT A, UH, A VOTE. 
          AND BECAUSE THEY WILL PROBABLY KNOW THAT'S A NO VOTE IN MOST CASES. 
          COULD BE COMPLACENCY, COULD BE PEOPLE TRAVEL, PEOPLE GO DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          THEY MAY MISS THE WINDOW DISMISS IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S NOT THE PRIORITY THING IN THEIR LIFE RIGHT NOW. 
          THERE ARE THINGS ARE GOING ON. 
          IT COULD BE THAT I DON'T WANNA ATTACH THEMSELVES TO A NO VOTE, BUT IT'S A NO VOTE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS FOR THAT. 
          AND IT'S FRUSTRATING. 
          THERE'S NO QUESTION IN AN ELECTION, ANYTIME, AS YOU KNOW, ANY ELECTION, ANYTIME PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE, DON'T VOTE. 
          IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR WHATEVER THE REASONS ARE. 
          BUT THAT HAPPENS. 
          BUT HISTORICALLY, YOU'VE GONE WITH TWO THIRDS OF THE, OF THOSE WHO CAN VOTE AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND GET A BALLOT TO VOTE. 
          THAT'S THOSE PROPERTIES. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          NOW, IF YOU 
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WANT TO CHANGE THAT, WE CAN CHANGE THAT. 
          BUT I, I, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING TO SEE IS THERE CONSENSUS TO CHANGE IT OR DO YOU WANNA LEAVE THAT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW? LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          I WOULD LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS BECAUSE I THINK YOU NEED THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GONNA BE PAYING FOR IT. 
          AND THEN TO ME, IF THE, IF THE SPEEDING, 'CAUSE IT'S GENERALLY TO STOP SPEEDING PROBLEMS. IF THE SPEEDING PROBLEM IS BAD ENOUGH, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET TWO THIRDS THAT LIVE ON THAT STREET. 
          SO, OKAY, SO IT GOES, GO BACK TO THE OTHER QUESTION THEN, WHICH IS THE, UH, USING THE HOA WHERE THERE'S AT LEAST PREDOMINANTLY AN HOAA NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE AREA WHERE THERE COULD BE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          DO YOU WISH TO STILL USE THE HO A'S INITIAL GATEKEEPER? SO HERE, HERE ARE YOUR CHOICES, RIGHT? UH, YOUR CHOICES I THINK ARE UM, DO IT THE WAY IT IS TODAY, WHICH THEY ARE THE GATEKEEPER. 
          IF THE HOA CHOOSES NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH NO, REGARDLESS OF THE ISSUE WITH, UH, UH, CON, UH, TRIGGERING A PETITION PROCESS AND OUR REVIEW, THEN THERE IS NO PROCESS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT'S THE WAY IT IS TODAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM. 
          SOUNDS LIKE PERHAPS IN HISTORY THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES. 
          UM, ANOTHER OPTION IS, IS YOU ALLEVIATE OR ELIMINATE, I SHOULD SAY THE HOA ALTOGETHER. 
          IT'S JUST US AND THE RESIDENCE. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THERE'S NO HOA INVOLVEMENT UNLESS THEY WANT TO TAKE AN INVOLVEMENT DURING AN ELECTION TO SUGGEST YOU SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR IT. 
          BUT THERE'S NO FORMAL INVOLVEMENT. 
          ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE, UM, IT COULD BE FROM AN HOA OR IT COULD BE IN AN HOA NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE CITIZENRY. 
          AND BOTH COULD TRIGGER THE LOOK AT IT. 
          I, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHERS IF THERE'S AN I OPTION. 
          I LIKE THAT LAST OPTION THAT, UM, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU JUST GO THROUGH AN HOA, THEN ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE CREATING A PRIVATE STREET. 
          I MEAN, JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, BY TECHNICAL DEFINITION. 
          BUT WE'VE GIVEN THE HOA POWER OVER THAT STREET. 
          WHEREAS WE'VE ALREADY SAID FOR PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT. 
          SO WE'VE LET A A, A BIGGER BODY CONTROL THAT STREET THAT'S A CITY STREET AND THAT THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE ON THE STREET HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT. 
          SO I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GIVE THEM THAT AS THE FIRST OPTION GOING THROUGH THE HOA. 
          BUT, UM, OR EVEN IF WE WANT TO STILL HAVE THE HOA IN PLACE SO THAT THERE'S A MECHANISM FOR THE CITIZENS ON THE STREET , UM, YOU KNOW, THEN THE CITIZENS OF THE AFFECTED AREA CAN PRESENT A PETITION WITH 50% OR MORE SIGNATURES, WHICH THE HOA THEN HAS TO PRESENT TO THE CITY. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE TWO THIRDS GET TO VOTE. 
          AND I, I THINK THESE ISSUES ARE, IF IT'S NOT AFFECTING PEOPLE AND, AND THE HOA AND THESE, SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES ARE VERY LARGE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANNA PAY FOR IT EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE MINIMAL SPREAD OUT AMONG ALL THE HOMES IN THE SUBDIVISION. 
          BUT THE HO A HOA HAS THE ABILITY TO SAY, IF YOU GUYS WANT THIS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. 
          HOA IS NOT GONNA PAY FOR IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THIS ALONG THIS THAT YOU'RE LETTING THEM MANAGE THAT PART OF THE PROCESS, WHICH IS OUR, BASICALLY OUR RULE ANYWAY BECAUSE NON HOA YEAH. 
          THOSE PEOPLE DO HAVE TO PAY FOR. 
          SO I MEAN, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD I I I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE PEOPLE AFFECTED SHOULD BE THE ONES TO PAY FOR IT. 
          BUT USING THE HOA AS A CONDUIT FOR A METHOD OF, AND WE KNOW EITHER WAY THEY STILL PAY FOR IT. 
          IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE LOGISTICS, RIGHT? I MEAN THE PEOPLE GIVE THE MONEY TO THE HOA RIGHT. 
          AND DO IT. 
          BUT I, I REALLY THINK THAT THE PEOPLE IN AN HOA NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THEY DON'T GET TO SUPPORT THEIR HOA SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO A PETITION, GET 50% AND, AND THEN HAVE AN ELECTION. 
          UM, BECAUSE BY BY SIGNING THE PETITION OR VOTING IN THE ELECTION, THEY KNOW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE, SINCE IT'S A CITY STREET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I DON'T THINK THE HO A SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE SPEED HUMPS FOR AN ISSUE. 
          NO. 
          THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO AT LEAST ASK FOR 'EM, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          WELL LOOK, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GUARANTEED THEY'LL GET 'EM, BUT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK, LET ME ASK THIS. 
          I MEAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE WANT NEIGHBORHOODS TO HAVE HOAS. 
          CORRECT. 
          I MEAN TO THE POINT, AND KRISTEN YOU MAY KNOW, I THINK, I THINK WE REQUIRE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS TO HAVE HOAS AND THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T HAVE HOAS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE KIND OF GRANDFATHERED THE PRE-DATE THAT REQUIREMENT YOU HAVE AN HOA. 
          SO I MEAN IF WE'RE JUST STRICTLY JUST FROM A GOVERNANCE STANDPOINT, RIGHT? IF WE ARE PRO HOA TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE REQUIRING NEIGHBORHOODS TO HAVE HOAS AND IF WE'D LIKE THE GRANDFATHERED ONES TO, TO GIVE UP THEIR GRANDFATHER'S STATUS AND HAVE AN HOA TO HELP WITH GENERAL GOVERNANCE, ACTUALLY WE'RE DOING HIRE AN HOAI THINK WE DO FOR OSRD, WE DO THE SPACE, BUT I'M THINKING R TWO, IF THEY HAVE, IF THEY HAVE PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED LIKE A DETENTION POD AND MOST OF THEM DO, THEN YES. 
          THEN YES, AN HOA IS REQUIRED. 
          YEAH. 
          AND MOST OF THEM HAVE THAT. 
          SO KIND OF BY DEFAULT, BUT IT'S NOT EXPLICIT THAT, SO, SO IT'S NOT 
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QUITE JUST A WE WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE 'EM. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT IF YOU'VE GOT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE MANAGED, WE THEY ALL DO PRETTY MUCH. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN I'M NOT ANTI HOA WELL, NO, NO, BUT I'M JUST LIKE, I'M JUST SAYING IF THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT HELPS ENC, IF, IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE HOAS TO HELP ENCOURAGE GOOD GOVERNANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND GOOD MAINTENANCE OF THIS STUFF, DOES THIS GIVE US ANOTHER REASON THAT WE'D GO BACK TO SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAYBE GRANDFATHERS SAYING MAYBE YOU WANT AN HOA 'CAUSE THEY CAN ELECT TO HAVE AN HOA RIGHT? THIS CAME UP IN INDIAN BOY WHEN I LIVED THERE. 
          'CAUSE THEY LOVE TO HAVE ONE AND A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS WANT ONE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S HARDER TO DO THAN THAT TO GET AN HOA AFTER THE FACT IS A LOT HARDER. 
          WELL IT IS. 
          YOU GOTTA HAVE ALL THE SIGNATURES OF EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WELL YOU DO. 
          SO THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL. 
          WELL, I DON'T KNOW. 
          WELL IT MAKES SENSE IN THE SENSE THIS GIVES THEM ANOTHER REASON WHY THEY MIGHT WANNA GO AHEAD AND DO IT. 
          IF, IF SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COULD GET A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          I SEE, I SEE IT. 
          THE OPPOSITE OF YOU IS THAT PEOPLE THAT REALLY WANT TO SPEED HOMES AREN'T GONNA, THEY WOULD BE MORE WORRIED THAT THE HOA WOULD AH, YOU KNOW, SO ITS GONNA KILL DISPUTE HUMP BECAUSE HE SAID THE BAR TOO HIGH. 
          CORRECT. 
          BECAUSE THE BAR'S ALREADY HIGH, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          THAT'S GOOD POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          ON THE H HOA AMENDMENT. 
          YEAH, I GET IT. 
          UH, I SHOULD WE OR SHOULD WE PASS THIS AND TALK ABOUT, WELL I WAS GONNA BE WHERE ENDED UP ON THIS IF THERE'S A CHANGE, I WAS GONNA GO STRAIGHT TO KRISTEN AND TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT SHE BELIEVES IS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO MAKE THE CHANGE IN THERE. 
          SO IF WE DO CHANGE THIS TO SAY WHAT WE CALL THE HYBRID. 
          NOW WITH THAT, I WOULD WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PRE-ELECTION PROCESS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO, UH, JUST TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN. 
          AND THEN ALSO WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT IN THAT, 'CAUSE YOU MAY GET MORE THAT WAY. 
          RIGHT? SO THAT MEANS WE'RE COLLECTING THEM FROM INDIVIDUALS VERSUS FROM AN HOA. 
          AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, UH, THAT'S WHERE YOUR TIMEFRAME OF SIX MONTHS, THEY HAVE TO, EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE THEIR MONEY IN, IN SIX MONTHS OR IT EXPIRES. 
          AND TO START OVER AT THAT POINT, MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. 
          'CAUSE THAT COULD BE, COULD BE MORE IMPORTANT. 
          NOW, SHOULD WE, DOES THAT, OH, GO AHEAD KEVIN. 
          SORRY. 
          JUST QUICK, DOES THAT ALSO, HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE TWO YEAR TIMELINE? I'M SORRY? HOW DOES THAT, WILL THAT THE TWO YEAR TIMELINE BECAUSE OF HOAS AREN'T, YOU KNOW, IS IT A DIFFERENT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS KEEP YEAH, I THINK THE LANGUAGE HERE IS ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE VOTE. 
          THE NOT SO MUCH THE COLLECTION. 
          YEAH, CORRECT FIGURES BETWEEN PETITIONS OF FOR SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME REQUEST. 
          SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IT COMES FROM. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THAT. 
          IT WOULDN'T EXTEND THAT OUT ANY, BUT IT, BUT IT DOES MAKE A SIX MONTH TIME TO PAY, WHICH SIX MONTHS SHOULD BE ENOUGH. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, BECAUSE YOU WANNA DO A PROJECT SOMETIME. 
          UM, IT DOES MAKE THAT MORE IMPORTANT IF YOU THINK THAT WITH THE CHANGE YOU COULD GET MORE OF THAT VARIETY VERSUS AN HOA DRIVEN PROCESS. 
          SO DO WE HAVE ANY OF THESE UH, REQUESTS PENDING AT THE MOMENT? I DON'T BELIEVE WE, WELL THEN WHY DON'T WE LIKE DALE? I WASN'T AWARE OF ANY, BUT DALE TERRA MOORE IS ONE OF 'EM. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, HOW, HOW FRESH IS THE PETITION? IS IT BRAND NEW? SO THERE WAS A STUDY DONE ON THAT IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AND UM, FOR TERRA MOORE. 
          AND THEY WERE, THE RESULTS HAD COME IN AND WE HAVE HAD A BRIEF MEETING ABOUT IT, BUT IT WAS KIND OF, I REQUESTED THAT WE, TILL THIS GETS CLEANED UP, THAT UH, WE HOLD OFF ON THAT. 
          DALE, IS THAT AN HOA DRIVEN? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S AN HOA DRIVEN, IT'S PROBABLY A NON-ISSUE ON THE TIMING OF THE PAYMENT AS MUCH AS IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS NON HOA DRIVEN. 
          SO IF WE SCOOTED THIS INTO 2026 JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, IT WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE. 
          IS NO, I I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE THIS BEING AN URGENT POLICY CHANGE. 
          NO, I THINK YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO TAKE WHATEVER TIME YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED, MAKE SURE YOU GET IT RIGHT AND GET THE STRONGEST CONSENSUS YOU DID. 
          WE TALKED, LIKE IF WE'RE HAMMERING THE DETAILS RIGHT JANUARY, WRITE IN AGENDA, DEFER IT. 
          CORRECT. 
          YOU CAN, BUT HONESTLY, AT THIS POINT, YOU CAN JUST TRACK IT FROM YOUR AGENDA. 
          IF WE HAVE TIME WITH THE NOTICE PROVISION, WE CAN JUST PULL IT. 
          WE CAN, AND THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK WHEN IT'S READY. 
          SO WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS WHATEVER CHANGES YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE US, UH, HAVE US LOOK AT TODAY, WE COULD DO THAT. 
          WE COULD SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER RELATED TO THAT, THAT WE WOULD SUGGEST WE COULD COME BACK, HAVE A CONVERSATION AND THEN WE COULD PUT ON THE AGENDA AFTER THAT. 
          DID, DID WE ALSO NOT TALK ABOUT IT AT THE LAST MEETING THOUGH, THAT ANY THAT ARE IN PROCESS NOW WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY THESE CHANGES SO THAT THEY COULD GO AHEAD WITH THE TAR MOORE DOWN? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, THAT'D BE UNDER THE CURRENT POLICY. 
          AND THERE THAT ONE'S FINE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION. 
          FINE. 
          WITH EVERYTHING SIGNED, IT'S IN THE RESOLUTION. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION. 
          IS THERE CONSENSUS TO GO WITH WHAT WE CALL THE HYBRID TRIGGERING APPROACH? IT COULD BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR IT COULD BE THE HOA. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          IN AN H HOA NEIGHBORHOOD, YES. 
          IN AN H HOA NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I MEAN, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HAVING THESE TWO SEPARATE STEPS AGAIN, LIKE WE, IF IT'S THE STREET THAT DOES IT, I'D BE CONVINCED IF IT'S THE STREET THAT DOES IT AND NOT THE HOA COURSE, THE HOA COULD DECIDE THIS EXTERNALLY, BUT I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS 600 FEET IS GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BILL, RIGHT? 
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MM-HMM . 
          EVEN THOUGH OTHER COMMUNITIES SO THAT YOU DON'T GET A SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE, WELL, THE HOA AND X NEIGHBORHOOD, THE HOA PAID FOR IT SAID YES, BUT THE HOA ALSO INITIATED IT. 
          IT'S NOT INITIATED BY THE HOAI JUST THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          BUT I MEAN, I THINK THAT MAYBE TO DO THAT, TO SAY THAT THE FIRST STEP IS TO REQUEST YOUR HOA TO DO IT. 
          YES. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, DON'T, DON'T LET THAT HOA TOTALLY OFF OF, BUT YOU KNOW, THE FIRST STEP IS TO BRING IT TO YOUR HOA. 
          RIGHT? AND THEN IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, THEN YEAH. 
          AND, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE, THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, THEY DEAL WITH THE INTERNAL OF THIS. 
          WELL, I NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT, SO I'M NOT YET SURE I CAN DESCRIBE TO YOU IN A NON HOA WHAT'S THE COMMUNICATION LOOK LIKE TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS VERSUS WHAT HAPPENS IN AN HOA, BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT BEFORE THERE'S AN ELECTION, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE LIMITS ARE, ALL OF THAT. 
          SO WE, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AND THAT'S PROBABLY A LOGISTICAL THING ON OUR END, BUT WE'LL NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT RIGHT. 
          SURE. 
          ONE MORE CLARIFYING POINT. 
          WE'RE MAILING THESE LETTERS OUT TO THE REP. 
          600 FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          CENTS. 
          SHOULD IT BE TWO MAILINGS WITH THE POSTAL SYSTEM IN BRENTWOOD? SO SOMETIMES WE GET STUFF, SOMETIMES WE DON'T. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S, IT IS A DOLLAR PER ENVELOPE, BUT SURE. 
          IS IT, DO WE JUST MAIL IT TWICE TO MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE GET THERE NOW? WELL, WE CAN. 
          THAT WOULDN'T BE HORRENDOUSLY EXPENSIVE. 
          AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          UH, EVERY STREET HAS THE SAME NUMBER ADDRESS. 
          SO YOU CAN LIVE ON 97 0 3 MARKET SITE. 
          YOU CAN LIVE ON 97 0 3 AMETHYST IF YOU LIVE ON 9 7 0 3 ONYX. 
          AND YOU CAN LIVE ON 97 0 3 TURQUOISE AT IN FENTON. 
          AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS WHEN YOU HAVE A REPLACEMENT TEMPORARY POSTAL CARRIER THAT DAY OR THAT WEEK, YOU KNOW, UM, MY NEIGHBORS ON MARKETSIDE ARE CALLING ME AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT YOUR MAIL AND OURS 'CAUSE THE NUMBER'S THE SAME. 
          SO THAT PROBABLY IS A GOOD IDEA. 
          THAT'S INTEREST. 
          I HAVE TO SAY, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE RECEIVED OUR MAIL OCCASIONALLY. 
          NOW THEY HAVEN'T PAID ANY OF MY BILLS YET. 
          , MY MAIL CARRIER THREW A WHOLE SACK OF MAIL DOWN A DRAINAGE DITCH, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES WATER. 
          THEY FIRED HIM UP, THANK GOODNESS, . 
          SO YEAH, WE CAN INTEGRATE THAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT, KEN. 
          SO LET ME MAKE SURE THE CHANGES OF WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY THERE. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE REALLY TWO AT LEAST THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. 
          ONE IS TO GO WITH THE HYBRID TRIGGERING APPROACH, UH, THAT THE, THE TWO MALES. 
          WE'LL LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING RELATED TO THE HYBRID THAT WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE. 
          WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IN A BRIEFING BEFORE WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT WAY WE'RE CLEAR BEFORE WE PUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO TO PULL IT AGAIN, MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND AT THAT POINT WE'LL GET IT ON YOUR REGULAR AGENDA. 
          DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? ALRIGHT, GOOD TALK. 
          YOU WANNA JUST MAKE A VERY QUICK COMMENT THAT FIND MYSELF SEEING A LOT LATELY THAT IT'S BETTER TO GET IT RIGHT THAN GET IT QUICK. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE, UH, THE COMMENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT 100%. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CONSENT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS AN AGREEMENT WITH ALTERNATIVE ENERGY PRODUCTS, LLC FOR WOOD WASTE, GRINDING AND REMOVAL SERVICES. 
          AND THIS IS FOR PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS FOR ALL THEIR, UH, UH, BRUSH COLLECTION AND ANY STORM WASTE AND SO, SO FORTH. 
          AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ASKING HERE IS TO GO WITH A, A WAIVER OF THE COMPETITIVE SELECTION, ALTHOUGH THE PROCESS THEY'VE USED IS VERY COMPETITIVE, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE COMPANIES THAT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THIS WELL. 
          THE EQUIPMENT AND CAPACITY, THERE WERE, UH, THREE AND, UH, THEY, UH, REQUESTED PROPOSALS FROM THOSE THREE. 
          UH, ONE DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY RESPONSE. 
          UH, TWO OF 'EM PROVIDED A PROPOSAL. 
          THE CURRENT, UH, COMPANY WE USE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS ALTERNATIVE ENERGY PRODUCTS OR A EP, UH, THEY'RE OFFERING TO EXTEND THEIR CURRENT FIVE, DO FIVE AND A QUARTER, UH, $5 AND 25 CENTS FOR CUBIC YARD COST THROUGH, UH, JUNE OF 26. 
          AND THEN IT WOULD MOVE UP IN 27 AND 28 TO $6 PER CUBIC YARD. 
          AND THAT IS STILL, UH, IT'S LOWER THAN THE 6 45, UH, THAT WAS OFFERED BY THE NEXT LOWEST. 
          SO THE, THE CURRENT PROVIDER PROVIDES THE LOWEST, UH, PROPOSAL FOR SURE. 
          UM, AND THEN GIVEN THERE AREN'T VERY MANY FOLKS THAT VENDORS THAT REALLY DO THIS, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING GOING WITH A EP UNDER THE, THE NEW PROPOSAL FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? SO THEY, THAT COMPANY COMES TO OUR FACILITY OUT ON, UH, GENERAL MACARTHUR AND BRIAN'S THE WAIST DOWN. 
          OH, DALE, I, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO WE STACK BRUSH UNTIL IT GETS TO A CERTAIN LEVEL THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THE FOOTPRINT'S ONLY SO BIG. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEN THEY WILL SHOW UP ON SITE WITH A, WITH A TRACK GRINDER AND THEY GRIND EVERYTHING, PUT IT IN A BIG PILE. 
          THEN WE HAVE THE FACILITY WHERE THEY CAN TRUCK THEIR TRUCKS IN, HAUL IT OUT, AND THEN, THEN IT, IT NORMALLY HAPPENS THREE TO FOUR TIMES A YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE VOLUME OF THE STORM AND BRUSH. 
          OKAY, GOOD QUESTION. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? OKAY. 
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UH, APPROVAL TO PAY INVOICE FOR OUR, UH, GNRC LOCAL GOVERNMENT DUES, UM, GREATER TO NASHVILLE REGIONAL COUNCIL. 
          SO WHAT THAT STANDS FOR, UH, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          THAT'S FOR PARTICIPATION. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WE, WE TRACKED THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN ON YOUR AGENDA BEFORE, BUT IT'S ABOVE MY PURCHASING LIMITS. 
          SO WE SAID WE NEED TO GET THAT ON YOUR AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          APPROVAL PURCHASE COMBINATION, HYDRO EXCAVATOR, VACUUM ASSIST MACHINE FOR WATER DEPARTMENT. 
          I HAVEN'T, UH, TALKED WITH THE MAYOR. 
          HE'S SEEN ONE OF THESE WORK. 
          I HAVE NOT, BUT I'M EXCITED. 
          CHRIS, I KNOW MANY PEOPLE DON'T STAND IN LINE AND SAY THEY'RE EXCITED TO SEE A WATER SEWER MACHINE WORK, BUT I'M IN LINE FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IT'S IMPRESSIVE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT IT ALLOWS 'EM TO DO IS WHEN THEY NEED TO EXCAVATE, THEY CAN USE WATER AND THEN IT COLLECTS AS THEY GO TO BASICALLY MOVE THE SOIL AND, UH, RATHER THAN DIGGING. 
          AND SO, UH, IT'S REALLY GOOD FOR TIGHT SPACES FOR AREAS WHERE THE UTILITIES JUST A, A LOT OF BENEFIT FOR THAT. 
          SO IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT MACHINE TO HAVE. 
          UM, AND SO BASICALLY THEY'RE, UH, LOOKING FOR APPROVAL TO PURCHASE ONE OF THOSE MACHINES, UH, FROM SEWER EQUIPMENT OF AMERICA, UH, DISTRIBUTED JET BACK EQUIPMENT OUTTA COOKVILLE. 
          UM, AND THIS IS UNDER THE SOURCE, WELL, PURCHASING COOPERATIVE. 
          SO IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A COMPETITIVE PRICING UNDER A CO COOPERATIVE THAT WE UTILIZE. 
          UH, I JUST TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IT DOES, BUT IT CAN DIG HOLES, IT CAN REMOVE THE GROUND MATERIAL AND GET IT AWAY FROM IT. 
          IT, IT'S, IT'S AGAIN GOOD AROUND ALL THE SMALL STUFF. 
          GAS, FIBER, ELECTRIC, ANYTHING AROUND THAT LINE. 
          UM, VERY, VERY USEFUL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          UM, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE I WANNA COVER HERE. 
          THESE, IT, IT'S, IT'S A MACHINE THAT FOR NOT TOO LONG AGO, IT WASN'T COMMONPLACE, BUT IT'S BECOMING COMMONPLACE NOW BECAUSE OF THE BENEFIT THAT IT PROVIDES. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE, THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE 'EM, FRANKLIN HAS MULTIPLE MACHINES. 
          HARPE VALLEY UTILITY DISTRICT DOES AND SO DOES CLARKSVILLE. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE OF THESE AGAIN, THE COST FOR THE MACHINE UNDER THE SOURCE, WELL, PURCHASING COOPERATIVE IS $575,385 AND 20 CENTS. 
          IN ADDITION, BECAUSE THESE TYPES OF MACHINES CAN BE PRETTY HIGH MAINTENANCE, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN EXTENDED WARRANTY PACKAGE, UH, FOR COST OF $11,060. 
          IT'S A FIVE YEAR EXTENDED WARRANTY, THE THING, AND YOU HAVE AN UPDATED SHEET ON THIS ONE. 
          AND WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THE PURCHASING LOGISTIC, THIS IS, THIS ITEM WAS NOT ANTICIPATED IN TIME FOR THE, FOR THE BUDGET. 
          UM, I'M GONNA LOOK, JUST TO BE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE HERE, BUT THERE ARE A AMPLE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THE PURCHASE OF THIS MACHINE. 
          UH, LOOK,  THERE IS. 
          UH, SO WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE THERE AND YEP, KAREN, SO YOU GOTTA GET THOSE. 
          MAKE SURE THOSE TWO BOTH AGREE , UH, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          UM, SO, SO THIS ISN'T A REPLACEMENT, THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL HYDRO EXCAVATOR. 
          YES. 
          AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE TOTAL? IS THIS THIS BE TWO OF TWO OR THESE MACHINES? YEAH. 
          HOW MANY? THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST SUCH MACHINE. 
          YES. 
          SO WHERE DID I SEE THE TIME I WAS OUT THERE, BECAUSE I KNOW I WALKED UP ON SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS A HYDRO, THE CAMERA, WE HAVE A COUPLE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT KIND OF DO THE SAME THING. 
          CERTAINLY NOT AT THIS SCALE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          BUT THIS MACHINE WILL REPLACE AND THAT'S PART OF THE OFFSET OF THE WHOLE, UH, COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, IF YOU WILL, BUT GOTCHA. 
          THIS IS OUR FIRST MACHINE IN THIS, YEAH. 
          IN THIS TECHNOLOGY, IN THIS, WHAT'S THE LIFE PERSPECTIVE? ABOUT 10 YEARS, 10 YEARS. 
          IT'S GOT ABOUT, I'LL JUST THROW OUT, IT'S GOT ABOUT A SIX YEAR PAYBACK ON IT. 
          UM, BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS, UM, IT'S, IT'S NEWER TECHNOLOGY. 
          OBVIOUSLY THE GUYS LOVE THESE MACHINES ARE BECOMING VERY POPULAR. 
          THEY, UH, AS JASON MENTIONED, UH, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SAVINGS IN, UH, UTILITIES THAT DON'T GET DAMAGED DURING THE EXCAVATION, TRADITIONAL EXCAVATION PROCESS WITH TRACK HOLES, BACK HOLES, ET CETERA. 
          AND I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADD THAT MANY STATES ARE PUSHING TO MANDATE THESE MACHINES BE USED IN EXCAVATION AND PARTICULARLY AROUND GAS LINES, ELECTRIC LINES, ET CETERA, BECAUSE THE PRESSURE WASHING AS OPPOSED TO TRADITIONAL EXCAVATION WITH OBVIOUSLY A BIG MACHINE, YOU CAN PRESSURE WASH ALL THE WAY DOWN AND UNCOVER THOSE GAS LINES, ELECTRIC LINES AND WITH ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF DAMAGING, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN EXCAVATE WITH THAT PRESSURE WASHER IN AND AROUND THE GAS, ET CETERA. 
          SO CLEAN YOUR CAR FROM A BLOCK AWAY. 
          YEAH. 
          . 
          SO, UM, SO THE CAVEAT TO THIS IS, IS WE HAVE THE FUNDS FORWARD. 
          IT WASN'T INITIALLY IN THE BUDGET. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS, IS IF THERE'S CONSENSUS BASED ON THE, THE, UH, TIME TO GET IT, WHICH IS ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS PRODUCTION TIME, YEAH. 
          THAT'S, IT'S A SIX TO EIGHT MONTH OLD TIME. 
          IF THERE'S CONSENSUS, UH, BY YOU TO GET THIS, THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IS, IS WE WOULD TRUE UP THE, UH, THE BUDGETING ASPECT AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AND TAKE CARE OF IT THAT WAY. 
          I JUST WANNA BE SURE EVERYONE'S UNDERSTANDS THAT AND IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. 
          THERE'S A PICTURE OF IT RIGHT THERE IF YOU'RE KIND OF CURIOUS AND YEAH, YOU DON'T WANNA STAND IN THE WAY OF THAT, UH, WATER. 
          I WILL TAKE YOU THAT YOU DON'T WANNA DO THAT. 
          UM, CONSENT 
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AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 10, APPROVAL TO PURCHASE TRAFFIC SWITCHES. 
          UH, THERE ARE COMPUTER TYPE SWITCHES THAT NOW ARE, ARE THE TECHNOLOGY'S IN WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SO FORTH. 
          WE HAVE 58 NETWORK SWITCHES, UH, OF THE OPERATOR TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND CAMERAS THAT ARE A VARIETY OF INTERSECTIONS. 
          WE DO HAVE TO EXPECT REPLACE THOSE PERIODICALLY. 
          THIS YEAR WE'RE REPLACING NINE OF THOSE SWITCHES AS WELL AS A SWITCH AT CITY HALL. 
          IT'S A GENERATOR SWITCH AND FOR THE FUEL PUMP AT OUR SAFETY CENTER EAST. 
          SO THE COST IS FOR 11 SWITCHES, IT'S $123,474 91 CENTS. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A CO-OP HERE, THE TENNESSEE ASPO VALUE POINT, UH, CONTRACT, SO THAT WAY WE GET A GOOD PRICE ON THAT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ITEM? OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS CANCELLATION OF YOUR DECEMBER 22 MEETING. 
          I, AS YOUR STILL FAIRLY NEW CITY MANAGER, DO NOT WANNA BE IN THE WAY OF THAT ITEM. 
          SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AT THIS POINT, WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T EXPECT THE NEED FOR THAT MEETING. 
          AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE OLD BUSINESS UNDER NEW BUSINESS. 
          JUST NOTICE OF FUTURE APPOINTMENTS OF FOUR MEMBERS TO THE HISTORIC COMMISSION. 
          WHEN WILL THAT APPOINTMENT BE? WHAT'S THE DATE AT WHICH MEETING IN JANUARY, HOLLY? FEBRUARY 9TH. 
          UH, FEBRUARY. 
          FEBRUARY 9TH. 
          FEBRUARY 9TH. 
          FEBRUARY 9TH. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT THEIR APPOINTMENT STARTED FEBRUARY. 
          I'M WRONG ON THAT. 
          I THOUGHT THAT TERM STARTED FEBRUARY 1ST. 
          UH, THE END FEBRUARY 28TH. 
          END OF FEBRUARY 28TH. 
          YEAH, THE END AT THE END OF FEBRUARY. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT'S, THAT'S IT FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? WE'LL MOVE INTO OTHER TOPICS. 
          THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION ON THE TRAFFIC COMMENTS. 
          IT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          SO NEXT ITEM IS VETERANS MONUMENT PRESENTATION BY HUTCHSON DOUGLAS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. 
          NO. 
          TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER LEVI. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YES. 
          BEFORE WE BEGIN, WE HAVE TO FILL OUT OPENING COMMENTS, PRESENTATION BEFORE WE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. 
          WE'LL BE EXCITED AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS IF WE WEREN'T DO SOMETHING. 
          BRENTWOOD WAS ORIGINALLY SETTLED BY THOSE WHO SERVED TO ESTABLISH OUR NATION A WAR OF INDEPENDENCE 250 YEARS AGO. 
          WHETHER THOSE WHO WERE BORN HERE OR THOSE WHO HAVE MOVED HERE, BRENTWOOD HAS ALWAYS CALLED TO SERVE IN THE DEFENSE AND PROTECTION OF LIBERTY. 
          THESE ORDINARY CITIZENS HAVE DONE EXTRAORDINARY DEEDS, MANY UNNOTICED, BUT SO VITAL TO OUR LIVING AND FREEDOMS BOTH MALE AND FEMALE SERVE THEIR NATION AND EXEMPLIFIED THE GREAT ATTRIBUTES OF DUTY, HONOR, SERVICE, AND SACRIFICE. 
          WE NOW HAVE THE GREAT ENDEAVOR IN FRONT OF US TO HONOR AND INSPIRE BY ESTABLISHING THIS MONUMENT ON THE HALLOWED GROUNDS OF OUR BRENTFORD POLICE HEADQUARTERS. 
          WE, THE COMMITTEE, WANT TO THANK THE CITY COMMISSION FOR ALLOWING US TO BE PART OF THIS MONUMENTAL TASK. 
          AS CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE GREATEST APPRECIATION TO OUR COMMITTEE WHOSE PASSION, PERSISTENCE, AND THE POWER OF THEIR COMBINED INTELLECT AND TALENTS HAS LED US TO DESIGNS TO PRESENT TO YOU. 
          THE DESIGN IS AN IMPORTANT PILLAR IN CREATING SOMETHING MEMORABLE AND BEAUTIFUL. 
          IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE TO NOW INTRODUCE CHRIS BARKLEY AND MAGGIE ACKERMAN OF HUDSON DOUGLAS TO PRESENT TO US THE DESIGNS FOR THE BRENTWOOD VETERANS MONUMENT. 
          THANK YOU CHRIS. 
          THANK YOU MAGGIE. 
          THANK YOU RAY. 
          AND GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO BE HERE. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY. 
          AS RAY SAID, WE WANT TO EXPRESS OUR SINCERE GRATITUDE TO THE AD HOC VETERANS MONUMENT COMMITTEE. 
          THEIR PASSION, THOUGHTFULNESS, AND STEWARDSHIP OF THIS EFFORT HAVE 
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BEEN EXTRAORDINARY. 
          THEY HAVE SHEPHERDED EVERY STEP OF THIS PROCESS WITH HUMILITY, CONVICTION, ALWAYS KEEPING THE FOCUS EXACTLY WHERE IT BELONGS ON THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE SERVED THIS NATION. 
          AND ENSURING THAT THIS MONUMENT IS UNIQUELY BRENTWOOD. 
          IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO WORK ALONGSIDE THEM AND THEIR DEDICATION HAS SHAPED WHAT YOU WILL SEE TODAY. 
          SO WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, WE BEGAN BY LISTENING. 
          WE HELD A WORKSHOP AND A DESIGN CHARETTE WITH THE COMMITTEE WHERE WE EXPLORED WHAT A VETERAN'S MONUMENT IN BRENTWOOD SHOULD MEAN. 
          THE OBVIOUS IS THAT IT SHOULD BE VISUALLY STUNNING AND EMOTIONALLY RESONANT. 
          BUT THE CENTRAL MESSAGE WAS STRONG AND CLEAR THAT THIS MONUMENT MUST BE UNIQUELY BRENTWOOD, ROOTED IN THE IDENTITY, THE VALUES, THE STORIES, AND THE LIVED EXPERIENCES OF THIS CITY. 
          IT SHOULD HONOR LEGACY OF SERVICE BOTH PAST AND PRESENT. 
          AND IT SHOULD EDUCATE AND INSPIRE FUTURE GENERATIONS. 
          AND AT THE CORE OF THIS THEME EMERGED A POWERFUL AND AUTHENTIC AND DEEPLY FELT IDEA OF THE CITIZEN SOLDIER. 
          SO BEFORE WE INTRODUCE THE NARRATIVE THEMES, WE WANNA BEGIN WITH AN IMAGE THAT SITS AT THE HEART OF THIS MONUMENT. 
          SO IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME FOR A SECOND. 
          SO CLOSE YOUR EYES FOR A MOMENT. 
          IMAGINE A SINGLE STONE DROPPED INTO STILL WATER. 
          THE MOMENT IT TOUCHES THE SURFACE, IT CREATES RIPPLES SOFT AT FIRST, THEN WIDENING, EXPANDING, REACHING OUTWARD IN EVERY DIRECTION. 
          THAT'S THE STORY WE ARE TELLING HERE. 
          AT THE CENTER OF THESE RIPPLES IS THE CITIZEN SOLDIER, THE EVERYDAY MAN AND WOMAN WHOSE CHOICE TO SERVE SENDS WAVE OF IMPACT, UH, WAVES OF SACRIFICE AND WAVES OF DEVOTION FAR BEYOND THEMSELVES. 
          THOSE RIPPLES MOVE OUTWARD TO FAMILY WHO FILL THE WEIGHT OF THE SERVICE IN WAYS THAT RUN DEEP AND UNSEEN AND EXTEND TO COMMUNITY. 
          OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR TEACHERS, COACHES AND FRIENDS, ALL TOUCHED BY THE COURAGE OF SOMEONE WHO STEPPED FORWARD TO DEFEND OUR SHARED FREEDOMS. AND LIKE THE SURFACE OF WATER, THESE RIPPLES CARRY REFLECTION WHEN WE LOOK INTO THEM. 
          WE NOT ONLY SEE THE SACRIFICE OF THOSE WHO SERVE, WE SEE OURSELVES AND THE FREEDOMS WE LIVE EACH DAY BECAUSE OF THEIR WILLINGNESS TO STAND IN OUR PLACE. 
          SO THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES TELL THE STORY IN FOUR LAYERS, FROM THE INDIVIDUAL TO THE FAMILY TO COMMUNITY. 
          AND FINALLY, THE REFLECTIVE TRUTH THAT BINDS US ALL TOGETHER. 
          SO LET US BEGIN WITH THE CITIZEN SOLDIER. 
          THIS IS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO STANDS AT THE HEART OF OUR STORY. 
          IT'S NOT A FAMOUS GENERAL, IT'S NOT A CELEBRATED HISTORICAL FIGURE, BUT THE EVERYDAY MAN AND WOMAN FROM OUR VERY OWN COMMUNITY WHO CHOOSE TO SERVE THE CITIZEN. 
          SOLDIER IS THE YOUNG PERSON WHO GROWS UP IN BRENTWOOD, WHO WALKS THESE PARKS, ATTENDS OUR SCHOOLS, PLAYS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND AND THEN RAISES A HAND TO DEFEND THE FREEDOMS THAT WE ALL SHARE. 
          THE CITIZEN SOLDIER REPRESENTS HUMILITY, COURAGE AND SACRIFICE WITHOUT SEEKING RECOGNITION. 
          THEY ARE ORDINARY PEOPLE THAT DO THE EXTRAORDINARY. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT MAKES THE BRENTWOOD STORY SO MEANINGFUL, IS THAT IT'S PERSONAL. 
          AND BEHIND EVERY CITIZEN SOLDIER IS A CIRCLE OF STRENGTH THAT SUSTAINS THEM, THEIR FAMILIES. 
          FAMILY IS THE QUIET HEART OF EVERY SACRIFICE, THE LOVE THAT ENDURES AND THE STRENGTH THAT STEMS FOR EVERY SOLDIER WHO SERVES THEIR, SOMEONE AT HOME WHO SERVES IN THEIR OWN WAY. 
          A SPOUSE WHO CARRIES THE WEIGHT OF WORRY, PARENTS WHO PRAY FOR THE SAFE RETURN OF THEIR CHILD. 
          AND CHILDREN WHO LEARN COURAGE THROUGH ABSENCE. 
          FAMILY ANCHORS THE CITIZEN SOLDIER. 
          THEIR SACRIFICE IS SHARED AND THEIR RESILIENCE IS PROFOUND. 
          AND BEYOND THE FAMILY THAT STANDS BEHIND EACH SOLDIER, THERE'S AN EVEN WIDER CIRCLE OF SUPPORT. 
          THE COMMUNITY. 
          COMMUNITY IS WHAT BINDS US TOGETHER IN GRATITUDE AND PRIDE AND IN PURPOSE. 
          IT'S UNMISTAKABLY BRENTWOOD, NEIGHBORS, SUPPORTING NEIGHBORS. 
          AND WHILE THE CORE OF THIS MONUMENT IS THE CITIZEN SOLDIER, IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT MILITARY SERVICE, IT'S ABOUT CITIZEN SERVICE. 
          THE COLLECTIVE SPIRIT OF A COMMUNITY THAT HONORS SACRIFICE, THAT LIVES OUT ITS VALUES AND TEACHES FUTURE GENERATIONS. 
          WHAT IT MEANS TO GIVE AND TO SERVE COMMUNITY IS THE FOUNDATION UPON WHICH THIS MONUMENT STANDS. 
          AND ALL OF THESE LAYERS, THE CITIZEN SOLDIER, THE FAMILY COMMUNITY, COME TOGETHER IN A SINGLE POWERFUL IDEA. 
          EACH 
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SEE OURSELVES REFLECTED IN NO MATTER THE ROLE THAT WE PLAY. 
          REFLECTION IS BOTH AN ACTION AND AN INVITATION. 
          A MOMENT TO PAUSE AND TO REMEMBER A MOMENT TO APPRECIATE THE DUAL COURAGE OF SERVING AND SUPPORTING THOSE WHO SERVE. 
          REFLECTION REMINDS US THAT THE JOURNEY OF SERVICE IS NOT LINEAR. 
          IT'S PROFOUNDLY HUMAN. 
          IT INVITES EACH ONE OF US TO SEE OUR OWN PLACE WITHIN THE LARGER STORY. 
          WHETHER WE HAVE SERVED, SUPPORTED, OR SIMPLY BENEFITED FROM THE SACRIFICE OF OTHERS. 
          WITH THIS FOUNDATION ESTABLISHED, WE NOW WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU TWO DESIGN DIRECTIONS EACH TELLING THIS STORY IN A DISTINCT AND MEANINGFUL WAY. 
          THE FIRST DESIGN DIRECTION IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION. 
          THIS DESIGN IS FLUID, ORGANIC AND EXPERIENTIAL. 
          IT UNFOLDS IN LAYERS JUST LIKE THE STORY OF THE CITIZEN SOLDIER. 
          IT EMBRACES THE UNIQUENESS OF EACH INDIVIDUAL'S JOURNEY AND ENCOURAGES QUIET DISCOVERY AND PERSONAL REFLECTION. 
          THIS CONCEPT CREATES A LANDSCAPE OF MOVEMENT, INTERACTION AND CONTEMPLATION. 
          INVITING VISITORS TO EXPLORE AT THEIR OWN PACE. 
          AND AT THE HEART OF THIS DESIGN IS ITS CENTRAL FOCAL POINT. 
          THE CITIZEN SOLDIER AT THE CENTER OF THIS MONUMENT LIES A CIRCULAR REFLECTING POLE. 
          A QUIET CONTEMPLATIVE MIRROR SYMBOLIZING THE CITIZEN SOLDIER. 
          WHEN A VISITOR APPROACHES AND LOOKS INTO ITS STILL SURFACE, THEY SEE THE SOLDIER SACRIFICE, THEY SEE THEMSELVES. 
          THE SIMPLE ACT OF LOOKING BECOMES AN ACT OF REMEMBRANCE, PLACING THE VISITOR INSIDE THE MEANING OF THE SOLDIER SERVICE. 
          BUT THE REFLECTION DOES NOT END WITH THE POOL ALONE. 
          ENCIRCLING THIS SPACE ARE REFLECTIVE SCULPTURES OF SOLDIERS IN ACTION FIGURES CAPTURED IN MOMENTS OF COURAGE, DUTY AND RESOLVE. 
          AS CHILDREN AND ADULTS ENGAGE WITH THESE SCULPTURES WALKING BESIDE THEM, STANDING IN FRONT OF THEM OR CATCHING THEIR OWN REFLECTION IN THE POLISHED SURFACES, THEY EXPERIENCE SOMETHING PROFOUND. 
          THEY NOT ONLY WITNESS THE SACRIFICE MADE BY THOSE WHO SERVED, THEY SEE THEMSELVES REFLECTED WITHIN THAT SACRIFICE. 
          IT CREATES A POWERFUL PERSONAL CONNECTION. 
          A REMINDER THAT THE STORY OF SERVICE IS NOT DISTANT OR ABSTRACT, BUT DEEPLY INTERTWINED WITH EACH ONE OF OUR LIVES. 
          SURROUNDING THIS POOL AND THESE SCULPTURES IS A POWERFUL REPRESENT. 
          REPRESENTATION OF THOSE WHO HOLD UP THE SOLDIER. 
          ELABORATE OF STACKED TENNESSEE LIMESTONE WALLS IN CIRCLES. 
          THE POOL, EACH STONE UNIQUE AND EACH STONE ESSENTIAL. 
          JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING THE SOLDIER, FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND NEIGHBORS WHO STEADY ENCOURAGE AND UPLIFT. 
          WITHOUT ONE SUPPORT, WITHOUT ONE STONE SUPPORTING THE OTHER, IT NO LONGER STANDS JUST LIKE COMMUNITY. 
          TOGETHER THESE STONES FORM A STRUCTURE OF ENDURING SUPPORT ON THESE WALLS. 
          LIE INTERPRETIVE BRONZE PLAQUES INSCRIBED WITH NARRATIVE TEXT BRINGING TO LIFE THE DEEPLY HUMAN EXPERIENCE OF THE CITIZEN SOLDIER. 
          FROM THE CENTER OF STRENGTH, VISITORS MOVE OUTWARD ALONG A PATH THAT MIRRORS THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE OF SERVICE. 
          THE FLAGSTONE PATH MEANDERS THROUGH THE SITE. 
          NOT RIGID, NOT LINEAR, BUT WINDING LIKE THE JOURNEY OF LIFE, SERVICE AND SACRIFICE. 
          IT INVITES CONTEMPLATION AND HONORS THE DEEPLY PERSONAL STORIES OF THOSE WHO WALK IT. 
          AND AS VISITORS CONTINUE THIS JOURNEY, THEY ENTER A GROVE OF TREES, A LIVING SYMBOL. 
          AS VISITORS FOLLOW THE WINDING PATH, THEY ENTER THE GROVE OF TREES STANDING TOGETHER IN QUIET FORMATION. 
          EACH TREE RISES TALL. 
          AN INDIVIDUAL WITH ITS OWN FORM, ITS OWN PRESENCE AND ITS OWN STRENGTH, BUT PLANTED TOGETHER, THEY BECOME SOMETHING FAR MORE. 
          A FELLOWSHIP, A LIVING SYMBOL OF UNITY, SHARED PURPOSE AND COLLECTIVE PROTECTION. 
          THIS GROVE EMBODIES TRUTH, THAT SERVICE DOES NOT HAPPEN IN ISOLATION. 
          JUST AS SOLDIERS FIND STRENGTH IN THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS BESIDE THEM, WE TOO FAMILIES, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS STAND TOGETHER SUPPORTING THOSE WHO SERVE. 
          AND IT IS HERE THAT THE MONUMENT BEGINS TO SHIFT FROM THE STORY OF THE INDIVIDUAL TO THE STORY OF COMMUNITY. 
          FROM CITIZEN SOLDIER TO CITIZEN SERVICE. 
          FROM THE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF REFLECTION TO THE EX. 
          THE SHARED EXPERIENCE OF GATHERING THIS TRANSITION IS INTENTIONAL BECAUSE SERVICE RIPPLES OUTWARD. 
          IT BEGINS WITH ONE PERSON RAISING THEIR HAND AND EXPANDS TO AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY BOUND BY GRATITUDE, RESPONSIBILITY AND REMEMBRANCE. 
          AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE OUTWARD, THE SITE OPENS INTO A COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE. 
          A NATURAL OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER THAT INVITES REFLECTION, CEREMONIES, SCHOOL PROGRAMS, AND 
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MOMENTS OF COLLECTIVE REMEMBRANCE. 
          IT SYMBOLIZES THE STRENGTH THAT EMERGES WHEN INDIVIDUALS COME TOGETHER WITH A SHARED PURPOSE. 
          AND AT THE CENTER OF THIS COMMUNAL SPACE STANDS THE AMERICAN FLAG. 
          A UNIFYING SYMBOL RISING ABOVE THE LANDSCAPE, SURROUNDING IT ARE THE SIX FLAGS OF THE MILITARY BRANCHES EACH REPRESENTING A DISTINCT LEGACY OF DUTY AND COURAGE. 
          TOGETHER THESE SEVEN FLAGS FORM A CONSTELLATION OF SERVICE ONE NATION, MANY PATHS UNITED IN SACRIFICE. 
          THIS IS THE MOMENT IN THE DESIGN WHERE THE NARRATIVE COMPLETES ITS ARC FROM THE INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCE OF THE CITIZEN SOLDIER TO THE COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY OF COMMUNITY. 
          TO HONOR, REMEMBER, AND PRESERVE THE VALUES THAT DEFINE US. 
          SO IN SUMMARY, THIS OUTWARD PROGRESSION FROM REFLECTION TO JOURNEY AND TO UNITY, BRINGS REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION NARRATIVE TO LIFE AS A DEEPLY HUMAN EXPERIENCE. 
          IT IS INTIMATE AT THE CENTER, EXPANSIVE AT THE EDGES, AND GROUNDED IN THE BELIEF THAT REMEMBRANCE IS BOTH PERSONAL ACT AND A COMMUNAL RESPONSIBILITY. 
          SO NOW WE MOVE TO THE SECOND DESIGN DIRECTION, WHICH WE CALL STRUCTURED FOCUS. 
          WHERE THE FIRST DESIGN INVITES EXPLORATION. 
          THIS ONE PRESENTS A MORE STATIC, YET CLEAR, BOLD, AND CEREMONIAL AXIS. 
          IT'S BOTH INTENTIONAL AND ORDERED. 
          THIS DESIGN CREATES A STRONG VISUAL AND EMOTIONAL LINE THAT GUIDES VISITORS DIRECTLY TOWARD THE HEART OF THE MONUMENT. 
          AT THE CENTER OF THIS AXIS STANDS THE EMBODIMENT OF BRENT WOOD'S STORY, THE CITIZEN SOLDIER. 
          IN THIS OPTION, THE DESIGN ORIENTS THE ENTIRE SITE TOWARD A SINGLE FOCAL POINT, A STATUE OF THE CITIZEN SOLDIER. 
          THIS FIGURE REPRESENTS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO BEARS BOTH THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE SACRIFICE OF SERVICE. 
          SUPPORTING THAT CENTRAL FIGURE ARE PATHS THAT SYMBOLIZE THE SHARED JOURNEY OF ALL WHO SERVE TWO LINEAR SIDEWALKS. 
          FLANKED BY SIX FLAGS OF MILITARY BRANCHES FRAMED THE CENTRAL LINE, CREATING CEREMONIAL PATHS LEADING TOWARDS THE AMERICAN FLAG PLAZA. 
          ALONG THESE PATHS ARE METAL WALLS INSCRIBED WITH QUOTATIONS FROM LOCAL VETERANS. 
          REAL WORDS, REAL STORIES. 
          THESE VOICES BRING AUTHENTICITY, EMOTION, AND HUMANITY TO THE SPACE. 
          FRAMING. 
          THIS ENTIRE EXPERIENCE IS A POWERFUL LIVING ELEMENT. 
          AN ALLY OF TREES STAND LIKE SOLDIERS AT ATTENTION, FORMING A PROTECTIVE THRESHOLD AROUND THE SPACE. 
          THESE TREES SYMBOLIZE STRENGTH, GUARDIANSHIP, AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT. 
          MIRRORING THE ROLE OF THOSE WHO SERVE WITHIN THIS FRAME LIES A SPACE FOR BRENTWOOD TO GATHER TODAY, TOMORROW, AND FOR DECADES TO COME. 
          AT THE CENTER, A GENTLY SLOPING EVENT LINE EXTENDS OUTWARD FROM THE AXIS, CREATING A NATURAL AMPHITHEATER FOR COMMUNITY GATHERINGS, CEREMONIES, SCHOOL VISITS, MEMORIAL SERVICES, QUIET PERSONAL MOMENTS. 
          THIS IS SHARED GROUND OF REMEMBRANCE AND GRATITUDE. 
          AND BEFORE THE CITIZEN SOLDIER STANDS A FINAL REFLECTIVE ELEMENT THAT UNITES BOTH THE VISITOR AND MEMORY. 
          A TRIANGULAR REFLECTING POOL SITS BEFORE THE SCULPTURE. 
          ITS SURFACE MIRRORS THE SOLDIER, THE SKY, AND THE FLAGS IN THE INDIVIDUAL STANDING AT ITS EDGE. 
          THIS SHARED REFLECTION CONNECTS THE SOLDIER SERVICE TO THOSE THAT THEY PROTECT, MAKING EACH VISITOR A PART OF THE STORY. 
          IN SUMMARY, STRUCTURED FOCUS OFFERS BOLD, CEREMONIAL, AND HIGHLY INTENTIONAL APPROACH TO HONORING SERVICE. 
          ROOTED IN SYMMETRY, ALIGNMENT AND ORDER. 
          THIS CONCEPT DRAWS VISITORS ALONG A CLEAR PROCESSIONAL ACCESS TOWARDS THE CITIZEN SOLDIER. 
          IT'S UNWAVERING CENTER POINT. 
          EVERY ELEMENT REINFORCES THAT SENSE OF PURPOSE. 
          THE STRONG LINEAR PATHS, THE MILITARY BRANCH FLAGS, STANDING IN FORMATION, THE VOICES OF VETERANS, AN ETCHED INTO METAL WALLS. 
          THE SENTINEL LA AND THE EVENT LAWN THAT WELCOMES COMMUNITY ANCHORED BY THE REFLECTING POOL THAT UNITES VISITORS AND MEMORY. 
          STRUCTURED FOCUS CREATES A POWERFUL SINGULAR JOURNEY. 
          ONE THAT HONORS SERVICE THROUGH PRECISION, STRENGTH AND FORM. 
          SO TWO CONCEPTS, ONE VISION. 
          BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE CLOSING PORTION OF OUR PRESENTATION, WE WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SUMMARIZE BOTH DESIGN APPROACHES. 
          THIS CONCEPT IS IMMERSIVE AND EXPERIENTIAL DESIGN. 
          ONE, REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION ON THE LEFT. 
          IT'S A LAYERED CONTEMPLATIVE JOURNEY THAT MOVES FROM PERSONAL REFLECTION TO COMMUNAL REMEMBRANCE. 
          IT EMPHASIZES STORYTELLING, INDIVIDUAL INTERACTION AND EMOTIONAL ARC OF THE CITIZEN SOLDIER ON THE RIGHT. 
          DESIGN TWO STRUCTURED FOCUS. 
          THIS CONCEPT IS CEREMONIAL AND FORMAL, BUILT AROUND A STRONG AXIAL PROCESSION THAT LEADS VISITORS WITH INTENTION AND CLARITY TOWARDS THE HEART OF THE MONUMENT. 
          IT PROVIDES A BOLD, HIGHLY STRUCTURED 
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AND HIGHLY STRUCTURED EXPERIENCE ROOTED IN PRECISION AND SYMMETRY. 
          AND AFTER MUCH THOUGHT DISCUSSION AND CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO ENDORSE DESIGN ONE, REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION AS THE RECOMMENDED DIRECTION. 
          MOVING FORWARD, ITS FLEXIBILITY, ITS DEPTH OF NARRATIVE, AND ITS ABILITY TO EVOLVE WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          WERE ALL ESSENTIAL FACTORS IN THAT UNANIMOUS DECISION. 
          WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION IN MIND, WE WANT TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL PROJECT COST AND IMPLEMENTATION DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THESE TWO CONCEPTS. 
          WHEN COMPARING THE TWO CONCEPTS, WE LOOKED CLOSELY AT THE INITIAL BASE COST FOR EACH DESIGN. 
          BOTH DESIGNS HAVE COMPARABLE BASELINE ELEMENTS AND CONSTRUCTION COST REFLECTING HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS, INTERPRETIVE ELEMENTS, WATER FEATURES, SCULPTURAL ELEMENTS, AND GATHERING SPACES ESSENTIAL TO THE VETERAN'S MONUMENT. 
          HOWEVER, THE CRITICAL DISTINCTION IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT BASE COST DESIGN. 
          ONE REFLECTIVE EXPIRATION. 
          UH, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ADVANTAGES OF REFLECTIVE EXPIRATION WAS ITS ABILITY TO BE PHASED AND ENHANCED OVER TIME. 
          THIS DESIGN CAN SCALE TO AVAILABLE FUNDING, WHETHER THROUGH IMPLEMENTING THE CORE NARRATIVE FIRST, OR THROUGH ADDING ENHANCEMENTS SUCH AS ADDITIONAL REFLECTIVE SCULPTURES, BRONZE PLAQUES, EXPANDED INTERPRETIVE ELEMENTS, OR FUTURE LAYERS OF PLANTING AND STORYTELLING. 
          THIS MEANS THE MONUMENT CAN BEGIN WITH A STRONG, MEANINGFUL FOUNDATION. 
          ALLOW THE MONUMENT TO GROW WITH CONTINUED FUNDRAISING AND EVOLVE THIS SPACE OVER THE YEARS AS BRENTWOOD CONTINUES TO HONOR NEW STORIES OF SERVICE. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, DESIGN ONE IS A LIVING, BREATHING MONUMENT. 
          A PLACE THAT CAN ADAPT AND EXPAND WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE INTEGRITY OF ITS DESIGN. 
          BY CONTRAST DESIGN TWO STRUCTURED FOCUS MUST BE BUILT ALL AT ONCE. 
          ITS CENTRAL AXIS, ITS RIGID GEOMETRY. 
          AND THE INTERLOCKING DESIGN ELEMENTS RELY ON CONTINUOUS UNINTERRUPTED CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCING. 
          THIS DESIGN CANNOT BE PHASED, NOR CAN IT BE REDUCED OR EXPANDED IN SCOPE AT A LATER DATE. 
          DOING SO WOULD COMPROMISE THE ALIGNMENT, THE STRUCTURAL CLARITY, AND THE OVERALL DESIGN INTENT THAT MAKE IT WORK. 
          THEREFORE, DESIGN ONE NOT ONLY PROVIDES THE STRONGEST NARRATIVE CONNECTION, IT ALSO PROVIDES THE GREATEST FLEXIBILITY, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND LONG-TERM ADAPTABILITY FOR THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD. 
          WITH THIS UNDERSTANDING AND WITH THE COMMITTEE'S UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION, WE NOW TURN TO THE HEART OF THE PROJECT, THE LEGACY THIS MONUMENT WILL CREATE FOR BRENTWOOD AND FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. 
          AS WE CLOSE, WE RETURN TO THE HEART OF THE PROJECT, THE STORY OF THE CITIZEN, SOLDIER, AND THE COMMUNITY THAT STANDS BEHIND THEM. 
          THIS MONUMENT IS NOT ONLY A PLACE TO HONOR SERVICE, IT IS A PLACE TO INSPIRE, A PLACE TO REFLECT A PLACE WHERE EVERY CITIZEN, NO MATTER THEIR AGE OR BACKGROUND, CAN SEE THEMSELVES IN THE STORY OF SERVICE AND SACRIFICE. 
          THIS MONUMENT SHOULD BE A LIVING LEGACY TO THE PAST, THE PRESENT, AND FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO COME. 
          A BEACON OF HOPE THAT REMINDS US THAT FREEDOM IS FRAGILE AND THAT WE ARE ALWAYS JUST ONE GENERATION AWAY FROM LOSING THE D DEMOCRACY. 
          SO MANY HAVE SACRIFICED TO PROTECT. 
          WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL TO THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD AND TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR ENTRUSTING US WITH THIS RESPONSIBILITY. 
          AND WE ARE HONORED TO CONTINUE, CONTINUE THIS JOURNEY WITH YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT BACK TO RAY TO DISCUSS NEXT STEPS. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          CHRIS AND MAGGIE. 
          NOT REALLY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND IN, IN HELPING COME UP WITH THESE DESIGNS. 
          WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF BUILDING A PROJECT THAT WILL BE GENERATIONAL. 
          WE'LL HONOR THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED THE USA IN THE PAST, IN THE PRESENT, IN THE PROTECTION OF OUR GOD GRANTED LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS. WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF CREATING A MONUMENT THAT WILL INSPIRE GENERATIONS TO SERVICE IN OUR NATION'S ARMED FORCES TO PRESERVE THOSE FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES OF PERPETUITY. 
          WE ARE ALWAYS JUST ONE GENERATION AWAY FROM LOSING OUR LIBERTIES. 
          AND WE MUST CONTINUE TO STOKE THE FIRES OF LIBERTY IN EACH SUBSEQUENT GENERATION. 
          WITH YOUR BLESSINGS AND APPROVAL, WE WILL D THE TORPEDOES AND BE FULL STEAM AHEAD. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN THE FUNDRAISING IN EARNEST, IMPROVE THE PATRIOTISM OF THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES OF OUR GREAT BRENTWOOD COMMUNITY. 
          AND TO BUILD THE UNIQUE BLEAK BRENTWOOD MO MONUMENT REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION, THE REFLECTIVE ON THE CITIZEN SOLDIER. 
          WE WOULD ASK THAT WE BE ALLOWED TO FUNDRAISE THROUGH THE END OF JULY, 2026 AND ALLOW OUR COMMUNITY TO BE INSPIRED BY THE 250TH BIRTHDAY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          AND THE EXCITEMENT OF BEING A PART OF A GENERATIONAL PROJECT. 
          AS MANY HAVE SACRIFICED TO ALLOW US TO LIVE IN FREEDOM, WE ASK THAT ALL 
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OF BRENTWOOD WAS SACRIFICING GIVING GIFTS FOR THE BUILDING OF THE BRENTWOODS VETERAN MONUMENT. 
          NOW BEFORE WE GO INTO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, WE WANT TO SHOW A POSSIBLE TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT IF WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL FUNDS GIVEN, UH, AUGUST 1ST, 2026. 
          AND THAT'S THE TIMELINE. 
          AND NOW WE'LL OPEN FOR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OBSERVATIONS. 
          JUST A REAL QUICK, UH, COMMENT. 
          UM, YOU WILL HAVE, UH, THIS PRESENTATION EMAILED TO YOU, UH, BASICALLY AS SOON AS THE MEETING'S OVER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT. 
          AND SO IF YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT LATER, YOU'LL HAVE IT. 
          AND I WILL SAY, UM, BEFORE WE KNEW THE COST DIFFERENTIALS OR ANYTHING, THE COMMITTEE DID SELECT THE REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THE STRUCTURED FOCUS MONUMENT LOOKS LIKE SO MANY MONUMENTS YOU SEE AT BATTLEFIELDS. 
          UM, PATTERNS, MONUMENTS, MEMORIALS, AND THE REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION. 
          WE FELT MORE EMBODIED BRENTWOOD AND BRENTWOOD SERVICE TO THIS NATION OF BEING FULL OF CITIZEN SOLDIERS, BOTH THAT HAVE MOVED HERE AND HAVE LIVED HERE THROUGH THE YEARS. 
          AND ALSO THE BEAUTY OF OUR, OUR CITY. 
          UM, AND ONE OF OUR MAIN GOALS EARLY ON AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THIS, AND I DO AGAIN WANT TO SAY THE COMMITTEE'S WORKED REALLY HARD AND THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WE'VE MET EVERY WEEK AND PEOPLE'S BUSINESS SCHEDULES AND EVERYTHING. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, BUT WE JUST FELT THAT THE COMMUNITY OF BRENTWOOD, THE SACRIFICE OF BRENTWOOD AND, AND MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE VETERANS MAY HAVE SERVED IN A COUPLE BOARDS UNLESS YOU HAVE A REASON TO KNOW. 
          YOU MAY NOT EVEN KNOW BECAUSE THEY MAY BE AN ACCOUNTANT NOW OR LEAD A CORPORATION. 
          THEY MAY BE RETIRED. 
          AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON WE FELT THE JOURNEYS WERE ALSO DIFFERENT FROM THE VETERANS BOTH WHO PASSED AWAY. 
          AND THOSE ARE LIVING IN BRENTWOOD AND THOSE IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND SO THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT REASON FOR US TO CHOOSE TO REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION AS WELL. 
          AND ONE OTHER THING, WE DID NEED DESIGN. 
          WHEN WE APPROACHED FUNDRAISING, ESPECIALLY LARGER DONORS, THEY WANTED TO SEE A DESIGN. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE FELT LIKE WE KIND OF HAD TO HOLD BACK ON THE FUNDRAISING TOOLS. 
          SO JUST TWO QUESTIONS. 
          ONE IS IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA TIE A PATH INTO THE HERITAGE, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA IF THAT'S WHAT THAT PATH IS GOING OFF TO THE, TO THE WEST THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER IS, UH, I COULDN'T SEE IT COMPLETELY 'CAUSE THE PODIUM WAS IN THE WAY WITH THE ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES. 
          THE THE ONES WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW ON THIS DESIGN OF BRASS PLAQUES THAT ARE THERE. 
          AND THE, I THINK THERE WERE TWO REFLECTIVE STATUES. 
          THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE BASE PRICE. 
          THE 2,400, THERE'S ONE REFLECTIVE STATUE OKAY. 
          INCLUDED IN THE BASE PRICE. 
          'CAUSE WE FELT THAT MADE IT A FAIRER COMPARISON. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE ONLY HAS ONE REFLECTIVE STATUE WHERE IT HAS TO BE BUILT ALL AT ONCE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE BLACK, THE PLAQUES THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW IN THAT DESIGN, THOSE ARE NOT THE ADDITIONAL PLAQUES. 
          THOSE ARE THE PLAQUES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE FACEBOOK. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE, THERE WILL BE 15 PLAQUES IN THAT BASE COST. 
          OKAY. 
          ENOUGH TO TELL THE STORY. 
          PROBABLY HAVE QUOTES. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, AS YOU KNOW, AND, AND SOME OF THAT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH THE, THE FUNDRAISING AND THAT TYPE OF THING AS WELL. 
          UM, AND SO WE TRIED TO, AND OF COURSE, UH, IT'S A LINCOLN HOER ON OUR COMMITTEE HAS BEEN A PROJECT MANAGER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          AND SHE WAS VERY HELPFUL IN THAT. 
          AND OF COURSE CHRIS AND MAGGIE DO THIS ALL THE TIME. 
          BUT WE TRIED TO COMPARE THEM AS EQUALLY AS POSSIBLE FROM A CAP, YOU KNOW, COST BASIS. 
          AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER OF BLACKS. 
          NOW IF WE'RE BLESSED AND RAISE $4.5 MILLION, ALL OF THE ENHANCEMENTS CAN GO IN. 
          YOU CAN STILL, THAT CAN STILL BE A LIVING MONUMENT, BUT ALL OF THE ENHANCEMENTS COULD GO IN INITIALLY. 
          BUT THE BASE COST, IT'S STILL A VERY MM-HMM. 
          WONDERFUL AND NEAT PROJECT. 
          IT TELLS THE FULL STORY AND IT, BOTH OF THEM LEND THEMSELVES TO GATHERINGS. 
          UM, BUT WE FELT MANY GATHERINGS THERE WILL NOT BE LARGE VETERANS STATE HOPEFULLY WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT. 
          AND THAT WILL BE A LARGER ONE. 
          BUT I CAN PICTURE SCOUT GROUPS, SCHOOL GROUPS, UH, FAMILIES GOING THERE. 
          UH, AND SO, UH, THE AMPHITHEATER WILL LEND ITSELF VERY WELL TO A SMALL TO MEDIUM GROUP. 
          BUT YES, LOOKING ACROSS THAT LAKE WITH THE FLAGS, UH, WE THOUGHT THAT MIGHT MADE IT VERY UNIQUE. 
          SO, 
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SO WHEN, WHEN WE WERE ORIGINALLY SPEAKING ABOUT THIS ABOUT, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I'D SAY WHEN IT FIRST CAME UP FRONT THE COMMISSION AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT SITES AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE BUDGET AND SOME OF THE JUST CONCEPT THINGS THAT THEN J RESEARCH AND BROUGHT IN. 
          I WOULD'VE BEEN ENVISIONING SOMETHING MORE THE SIZE OF LIKE JUST THE FLAG POLE PAVILION OR MAYBE JUST THE REFLECTIVE POND THERE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND I THINK THE BUDGET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS WHAT, 175,000 OR MAYBE 200,000. 
          THIS IS CONSIDERABLY MORE ELABORATE AND CONSIDERABLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN I THINK ANYTHING I WOULD'VE IMAGINED UP UNTIL THIS MORNING WHEN THEY ALL BROUGHT IT UP. 
          HOW, HOW DID THAT HOT COMMITTEE KIND OF GET FROM THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'D HAD BEFORE THE COMMISSION ABOUT SCOPE AND BUDGET TO THIS, THIS CONSIDERABLY LARGER, CONSIDERABLY MORE EXPENSIVE? WELL, AS WE LOOKED INTO IT, WE FIGURED OUT THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO VERY MUCH WITH $200,000. 
          NOT THAT WOULD BE VERY REFLECTIVE OF, UH, THAT. 
          AND WE FELT THAT THE BRENTWOOD COMMUNITY BUILT PATRIOTISM BECAUSE OF THIS UNIQUE SITE. 
          AND AS WE LOOKED INTO COST, WE STUDIED MONUMENTS FROM OTHER LOCATIONS. 
          AND, AND IF YOU CAN LOOK UP, YOU, YOU CAN JUST GOOGLE, UH, YOU KNOW, MONUMENTS AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE COST OR, OR OR WHATNOT THAT, THAT WE WANTED IT TO BE WORTHY OF OUR VETERANS AND WORTHY OF RENT, BUT ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT THERE WILL BE SOME MAINTENANCE INVOLVED. 
          BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE DOING A BUILDING. 
          UH, WE ALSO DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE WANTED TO DO JUST A SINGLE MONUMENT, LIKE HAD SOMEBODY RIDING ON A HORSE. 
          I'M JUST THROWING SOMETHING OUT. 
          AND SO AS WE LOOKED INTO IT NOW, AS WE CAME UP WITH THE DESIGNS, UM, WE DIDN'T KNOW THE FULL COST. 
          EVEN OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS DIDN'T. 
          AND AS WE WENT INTO IT, THEY DID. 
          THEY, THEY'VE TRIED TO DO A VERY GOOD COST ANALYSIS BUT ALSO MAKE IT TO WHERE IF IT'S A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE'RE STILL WITHIN BUDGET. 
          NOW MY GOAL ALL ALONG HAS BEEN NOT FOR THE CITY GOVERNMENT OF WICK TO PAY FOR THIS, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PAY FOR THIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          CAN I ASK SOMETHING? SURE. 
          AND I DON'T WANNA STEP ON TO, I DON'T, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF WORK WORKING IN THIS, BUT I DO NOT LIKE THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I MEAN, I WAS HONEST THE FIRST LIBRARY WE GOT, I SAID I DIDN'T LIKE IT AND WE WENT BACK AND READ IT AND, AND I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN WHY MM-HMM . 
          AND IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME. 
          SURE. 
          I SEE SIX FLAGS AND ONE STATUE AND THEN I SEE A LOT OF WALKWAYS AND BENCHES. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THE MONUMENT IS. 
          AND ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES A STORY TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IT IS, I WANT IT TO SAY WHAT IT IS WHEN I SHOW UP. 
          I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO UNDERSTAND FAMILY, COMMUNITY, CITIZEN, SHOULDER, SOCIAL. 
          I MEAN, I WANTED TO SPEAK WHAT IT IS THAT JUST REMINDS ME OF A LITTLE AREA IN THE PARK WHERE YOU GO SIT. 
          I I DON'T GET THE MONUMENT PART. 
          THE WHOLE THE WHOLE AND IF YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE SOMEBODY, SURE. 
          MAYBE THERE'S A FLAW IN THE DESIGN. 
          SURE. 
          IT, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE THING IS THE MONUMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I DIDN'T GET THAT. 
          SURE. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IS TO FIND OUT. 
          'CAUSE IT MAY BE THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK FOR MORE DESIGN WORK, BUT 'CAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO BE BEHIND THIS BECAUSE WE'LL BE GOING OUT AND ASKING THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE BOTH BUSINESS AND AND PERSONAL COMMUNITY. 
          SO YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING THROUGH MY MIND. 
          UM, YOU SAID THE CONCEPT IS THERE WOULDN'T BE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE VISITING THAT AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          OH NO, NOT, THAT WOULDN'T BE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE AMPHITHEATER SECTION. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT IT WILL LEND ITSELF TO LARGE GROUPS, BUT IT'LL ALSO LEND ITSELF TO SMALLER GROUPS. 
          BUT, BUT PART OF WHAT IS, I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THIS AND A COUPLE OTHER SLIDES SHOWED IT BETTER, BUT YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHEN I SAY THIS, I ALSO ENVISION THAT THERE'D BE, UM, VETERANS, SOME OF THEM DISABLED VETERANS WANTING TO GO TO THIS. 
          IT, I, I WOULD HOPE THERE COULD BE SOME PARKING INCORPORATED THAT SOME DISABLED PEOPLE COULD GET CLOSER TO. 
          THAT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S PROBABLY PARKING AND I KNOW THERE'S THAT GUARD SHACK FOR THE OTHER, BUT I'M TOO LIKE ANNE, I 
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THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE LIKE WE'D JUST BE LOOKING AT THE FLAG PART OF THIS AND NOT ALL THAT BACK THERE. 
          THAT JUST, IT'S A LOT OF LAND AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF COST. 
          IT REALLY, REALLY CONCERNS ME. 
          IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN. 
          IT'S, AND IF I HAD AN UNLIMITED BUDGET, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL. 
          BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT SCALED DOWN PERSONALLY. 
          KEITH, WE HAVE I THINK PLENTY OF HANDICAP PARKING AT THE, IN THE POLICE IN THE FRONT OF THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. 
          I BELIEVE WE EVEN KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE THE VETERANS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT RIGHT THERE. 
          I I WANNA MAKE IT CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO GET THERE. 
          WELL IT IS BASICALLY, UM, JUST, IT'S HARD TO SHOW ON THIS, BUT JUST KIND OF BELOW WHERE THAT IS. 
          IT'S ALL THE BEGINNING SPACES FROM THERE. 
          AND WE ALSO PUT INTO THE AMPHITHEATER A PATH. 
          THE, THE FIRST ONE, UH, BOTH OF THEM ARE FINE FOR DISABLED, BUT THE, THE FIRST ONE THERE ARE STEPS UP IN THE FRONT PART. 
          BUT IF YOU GO AROUND THE STRUCTURED FOCUS TO THE BACK SECTION WHERE THE GRASS IS, YOU CAN GO THERE ON THE REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION. 
          IT'S VERY ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ALL THE FLAGSTONE PART. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO WOULD CREATE A, A PATH FROM THE SIDEWALK THAT'S ALREADY THERE OVER TO THE AMPHITHEATER FOR THOSE WHO ARE JUST THERE. 
          SO IT'S JUST IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE HANDICAPPED PARKING IS GONNA BE MORE HERE. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK HERE. 
          IF THERE ANY WAY TO INCORPORATE A LITTLE SOMETHING. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING A GREAT BIG PARKING LOT, BUT JUST, THAT'S JUST PART OF MINE. 
          AND THEN JUST, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ANN SAID, IT SEEMS A LITTLE MASSIVE TO ME. 
          SO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? 'CAUSE WHERE'S COMMITTEE'S ALL HERE TO, TO HEAR, TO SPEAK TO KEN, THIS FACILITY, WHERE IS THE CITY BOUNDARY THAT AS OPPOSED TO THE HERITAGE LAND THAT WOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, TO ACROSS FROM THEIR ISLAND, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, ALONG THE SIDEWALK AREA TO PUT IN LIKE TWO HANDICAP SPOTS. 
          UM, IS, IS THIS CITY LAND OR IS THAT HERITAGE LAND? I BELIEVE THAT'S OURS. 
          I THINK PATTY. 
          YES. 
          AND YOU, SO YOU COULD PUT LIKE TWO SPOTS OR, OR WHATEVER IN THERE. 
          THERE ARE UTILITIES IN THAT AREA. 
          IT COULD REQUIRE SOME RELOCATION. 
          UM, I THINK WE HAVE VAULTS HERE. 
          I THOUGHT WE HAVE OUR NEW HYDRO THING. 
          , NOT THAT I, NOT THAT I, LET'S SPEND $500,000 WITH THESE THREE PARKING. 
          NOT THAT I'M AN EXPERT ON THIS, BUT MY FATHER WAS TOTALLY PARALYZED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HIS BODY FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS OF HIS LIFE. 
          BUT HE NEVER STOPPED. 
          AND WE WENT TO MANY THINGS AND MANY EVENTS. 
          AND EVEN MY MOM WEIGH A HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY POUNDS, TOOK HIM MANY PLACES, UH, IN A WHEELCHAIR OR PAIN OR, OR OR WALKER OR WHATEVER. 
          I DO ACTUALLY THINK THE HANDICAP SPOTS THAT WE HAVE AT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS WOULD SUFFICE AS FAR AS WHERE PEOPLE CAN PARK BECAUSE IT'S NOT A LONG DISTANCE FROM THERE. 
          AND IT IS ALL FLAT. 
          SO, UH, YOU SAY THAT, BUT, BUT THAT'S WHY THEY PUT HANDICAP SPOTS RIGHT NEXT TO A DEPARTMENT STORE. 
          THEY, THEY, THEY CAN'T MAKE THEIR WAY FROM THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE CONVENIENT. 
          WELL ACTUALLY A LOT OF DEPARTMENT STORE HANDICAP SPOTS ARE ACROSS THE ROAD IN THE ACTUAL PARKING SPACES. 
          SO WHERE, JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE DATA THAT FIRST DESIGN MM-HMM . 
          WHEN DID THEY KNOW THEY'RE AT THE MONUMENT? JUST AS SOON AS THEY WALK IN. 
          YES. 
          SO THEY DON'T HAVE VERY FAR TO COME. 
          NO, THERE WILL BE FLAGS AND ALL THEIR, THEY MIGHT THINK THEY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE FLAGS TO GET TO THE MONUMENT. 
          AND, AND WE ACTUALLY, PART OF OUR THOUGHTS WERE SOME PEOPLE WILL COME AND GO TO THE FLAG, UM, AND WE'LL STOP THERE. 
          SOME PEOPLE WILL TOUR THE WHOLE THING. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, I'M SURE I JUST MISSED THIS MM-HMM . 
          UM, YOU'RE GETTING DONATIONS, BUT WHAT ARE WE AS A CITY DOING? SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF, IF YOU COLLECTED $6 MILLION, LIKE ARE WE AS A CITY BUDGETING FOR, ARE WE MATCHING OR IS IT A PERCENT OF WHAT, UH, IT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE CHARGED, LIKE IF THE BRENTWOOD COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THIS TO ME IS BRENTWOOD DESIRED. 
          IF THEY WANT THIS, THEY WILL GIVE. 
          LIKE, IF, IF NOT, OR WE FIND OUT THERE THAT WE ONLY GET SO MUCH, THEN WE MAY HAVE TO SCALE IT BACK. 
          THAT WAS ONE 
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GOOD THING ABOUT THIS DESIGN. 
          YOU, YOU COULD SCALE IT BACK. 
          BUT MY HOPE AND DESIRE AND THOUGHTS ARE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO RAISE THIS MONEY, UM, AND, AND NOT BE, THERE WILL BE MAINTENANCE THAT WILL HAVE, BUT IT WON'T BE, YOU KNOW, UM, EXCUSE ME. 
          RIGHT. 
          SURE. 
          IT WON'T BE ENOUGH. 
          THE INITIAL COST WE'RE HOPING TO RAISE OFF THE MONEY. 
          SO, AND, AND, AND ALONG THOSE LINES, AND YOU GUYS MAY KNOW, I THINK WE'VE APPROVED WHAT, $50,000 FOR THE DESIGN AND THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A MATCH GOING FORWARD. 
          IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL CITY FUNDING THAT AN UPCOMING BUDGET, AND THAT'D BE A CONVERSATION WE'D HAVE TO HAVE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S WHAT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I THINK WHAT WE'VE APPROVED IS WHAT THE $50,000 FOR INITIAL DESIGN. 
          AND, AND WE THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. 
          AND WE, AND LIKE I SAID IN THE, THE COMMITTEE, EVEN FROM THE FIRST MEETING, OUR DESIRE IS TO, TO RAISE ALL THE FUNDS FOR, FOR THE PROJECT AND NOT, IT WILL BE BRENT WITH TAXPAYERS THAT WILL BE GIVING, BUT IT WON'T BE DUE THEIR TAX DOLLARS. 
          NOW DOWN THE ROAD THAT THAT MANDATORY THROUGH TAXES, THE CITY MAY DECIDE, HEY, WE'RE THIS CLOSE TO THE GOAL, BUT YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY'S REALLY SUPPORTING OF THIS AND IF THE COMMISSION DESIRES TO GIVE SOME TOWARDS IT, THAT'S GREAT, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE, OKAY. 
          WOULD THIS BE UNDER, UH, THE MAINTENANCE OF PARKS OR PUBLIC WORKS OR, AND HAVE YOU TALKED TO EITHER OF THOSE OR BOTH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD COST? LIKE IN TERMS OF PRESSURE WASHING OR PARK PARK? IT'D BE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE, ONE THING WE'D LIKELY DO TOO IS, UH, ONCE YOU GET PAST DESIGN, YOU'RE INTO CONSTRUCTION, TAKING IT OVER, UH, PUT TOGETHER REALLY A, A LONG TERM, ALMOST LIKE A LIFECYCLE TYPE MAINTENANCE PLAN. 
          WHAT, WHAT ANNUALLY, WHAT KIND OF STUFF? OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, GRASS AND LEAVES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          TO AT WHAT POINT ARE YOU GONNA BE CLEANING WALLS OR PLAQUES OR WORKING WITH STATUES, THOSE THINGS AND PUT THAT TOGETHER SO WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE FOLLOW THE PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S A GOOD OBSERVATION. 
          YOU KNOW, JUST, I KNOW LIKE HAVING A, A CAR WITH CHROME BUMPERS, YOU KNOW, A REFLECTIVE CHROME STATUE, YOU KNOW, CAN BE SUBJECT TO WEATHERING AND PITTING AND OTHER STUFF. 
          I MEAN, I'D REALLY, I AGREE. 
          BRING UP THE MAINTENANCE AND HAVING A GOOD IDEA WITH THE MAINTENANCE PROFILE. 
          ANYTHING WE COMMIT TO WOULD BE IMPORTANT. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS DIRECTION. 
          WE, WE, LIKE I SAID, WE FOUND OUT FROM SOME FOR RAISES INTO FUNDRAISING THAT PEOPLE DO WANT TO SEE A DESIGN. 
          SO WHAT WE NEED TODAY FROM THE COMMISSION IS EITHER THIS IS FINE, LET'S GO AHEAD OR WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CHANGE IT WITH, WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, AND OR THE STRUCTURED FOCUS OR HEY, WE DON'T LIKE EITHER DESIGN, Y'ALL GOTTA GO BACK TO THE DRAWING. 
          HODGSON DOUGLAS, WE HAVE TO DO SOME MORE DESIGN. 
          THINK WE STILL HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT. 
          SO, UM, I, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ON THAT THEN. 
          SO LET'S SAY THAT, HAVE YOU GOTTEN AN IDEA AS YOU'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT? LIKE DO YOU, DO YOU GET THE FEELING THAT WE CAN GET THIS FIRST 2.5 AND SECOND IS IF WE NEEDED TO SCALE IT BACK, HOW WOULD THIS DESIGN, HOW WOULD THIS DESIGN REDUCE REDUCE YEAH. 
          SO THAT IT COULD BE ADDED ON TO LATER. 
          WOULD YOU JUST BUILD THE AMPHITHEATER OR WOULD YOU FOCUS ON THE REFLECTING POOL? UM, HOW WOULD WE DO THAT IF WE DIDN'T REACH THE LEVEL OF FUNDRAISING? YOU, YOU COULD DO BOTH. 
          LIKE YOU COULD DO EITHER OR. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU COULD DO THE AMPHITHEATER AND JUST HAVE PART OF THE FLAGSTONE PATH BACK TO IT AND THE TREES, THOSE ARE NOT GONNA BE AN EXPENSIVE PART OF THE COST AND HAVE THE AMPHITHEATER IS THE MAIN THING. 
          AND THEN IN THE FUTURE EITHER GO BACK AND DO THE REFLECTIVE TOOL, WHATEVER AND, AND OR IF THERE'S AN ITERATION OF THAT THAT IN THE FUTURE WANTED TO DO. 
          OR YOU COULD DO THE REFLECTIVE TOOL PORTION AND THEN ADD THE AMPHITHEATER. 
          IN FACT, INITIALLY WHEN WE WERE DOING THE DESIGN, THIS CAN SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL. 
          THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT DO, IS TO THE, THE REFLECTIVE AREA WITH THE BRONZE PLAQUES, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, TELLING THE STORY BUT ALSO HONORING VETERANS AND, AND OUR COUNTRY AND OUR IDEAS. 
          UH, AND THEN ADD THE AMPHITHEATER. 
          BUT WE FELT LIKE THE OTHER WAS KIND OF A, A ONE OFF. 
          IT HAS TO BE DONE ALL AT ONCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE ONE THAT'S THE STRUCTURED FOCUS AND IS NOT UNIQUE. 
          THAT WAS THE COMMITTEE I THINK WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS UNIQUELY BRENTWOOD AND SPOKE 
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TO BRENTWOOD STACK STONE WALLS AND ALL. 
          UM, THE OTHER ONE WAS NOT. 
          AND IT REALLY HAD TO BE DONE ALL AT ONCE. 
          AND SO THAT WAS, AND IT WAS BEFORE WE KNEW COST, WE ACTUALLY, SO THEY KNEW BETTER. 
          WE, WE SELECTED THE DESIGN THAT WE LIKED THE BEST. 
          WE FELT LIKE MOST HONORED THE CITIZEN SOLDIERS. 
          UH, BEFORE WE KNEW THE COST OF EITHER WE, WE WEREN'T FOR SURE THAT THIS ONE WAS NOT GONNA BE TWICE AS EXPENSIVE AS THE OTHER. 
          SO, AND I, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT RAY. 
          SO THIS ONE HAS THE MOST FLEXIBILITY TO BE PHASED OVER TIME. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR, OUR INITIAL THOUGHT WAS TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS AND IMMERSED INTO THE SPACE RATHER THAN HAVING IT DIRECTLY OFF OF THAT SIDEWALK AND DIRECTLY OFF THE PARKING. 
          'CAUSE IT IS A SPACE OF, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE THERE SORT OF REFLECTING ON THE SERVICE AND PEOPLE ARE PULLING IN PARKING BEHIND YOU, YOU KNOW, DO YOU GET THAT SAME KIND OF EXPERIENCE IF IT'S JUST DIRECTLY OFF OF THE PARKING LOT? SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS REALLY THE DESIGN INTENT WAS TO PULL PEOPLE INTO THE SPACE HERE. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE SCALE OF THE SPACE, THIS ONE ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO BE SCALED BACK TO A SMALLER VERSION AND YOU COULD STILL ACHIEVE THE SAME DESIGN INTENT, WHEREAS THE OTHER SCHEME, YOU REALLY CAN'T. 
          COULD YOU, COULD YOU KIND OF, WHAT ANN WAS SAYING DOWN WHERE THE FLAGS WERE AND, AND Y'ALL PROBABLY WENT ALL THIS TO THE COMMITTEE, I'M SORRY FOR REHASHING, BUT COULD YOU ADD AN O BLISS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT KIND OF DEAL THAT STOOD UP AND HAD THE FLAGS SURROUNDING IT? YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SO THERE'S SOMETHING CENTRAL THERE THAT SAYS, AND I KNOW THE FLAG'S THE HIGHEST POINT THERE, BUT YEAH, YOU COULD, UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. 
          AND ACTUALLY THROUGH SEVERAL MEETINGS, TALKED ABOUT ALL THAT, UM, WE KIND OF FELT LIKE SO MANY MONUMENTS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME. 
          THEY'RE NOT THE SAME, BUT THEY'RE BASICALLY THE SAME. 
          AND WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS HONORING AND WAS SPECIAL, BUT WAS NOT LIKE EVERY OTHER MONUMENT. 
          UH, JUST I THINK BECAUSE OF THE, WITH ME IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE STORY OF BRENTWOOD, HOW IT WAS SETTLED, HOW IT'S BEEN THROUGH THE YEARS. 
          PEOPLE WHO ARE BORN HERE WHO SERVED, BUT SO MANY PEOPLE WHO'VE MOVED HERE, WHO'VE SERVED. 
          UH, AND SO AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, AND THE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY, WHICH I WAS SURPRISED, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE SPLIT OR WHATEVER ON THE DESIGNS OR OR WHATNOT, THAT, UM, WE FELT LIKE THIS ONE WAS MORE UNIQUELY BRENTWOOD AND MORE SPOKE TO THE CITIZEN SOLDIER, BUT ALSO HOPEFULLY HAD A BETTER CHANCE OF INSPIRING THE NEXT GENERATION TO SERVICE. 
          SO RAY, IN THE, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I KNOW WE'VE GOT, WELL THE SCHEDULE, WE CAN GO PAST 11 IF WE NEED TO, BUT, UH, BUT WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO GET THE FEEDBACK YOU WANT IF WE JUST MAYBE START 10, I CAN'T GO PAST 11, JUST WENT AROUND AND LET EACH COMMISSIONER TO SHARE KIND OF A, YOUR THOUGHTS AND THEN WE'LL KNOW THAT WORKS FOR YOU ALL OR THAT AND THE COMMITTEE, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS TO SHOW YOU AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          AND THEN THIS NEXT TUESDAY WE'RE AGAIN GONNA MEET AND IF ONE OF 'EM YOU JUST TOTALLY WE'RE HAPPY WITH, WE WERE GOING TO START ON THE FUNDRAISING PORTION, BUT IF WE'VE GOTTA CHANGE ONE OF THE DESIGNS OR THE DESIGNS COME UP WITH A NEW DESIGN, THEN OUR MEETINGS WILL BE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN THAT PLEASES THE COMMISSION. 
          SURE. 
          SO THE COMMISSIONERS, Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I'M JUST GO AROUND AND KEN, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT TIME PRESSURE. 
          IF YOU WANNA START THIS OFF, JUST KIND A SUMMARY OF HOW YOU FEEL. 
          SURE. 
          WANT ME TO START ? OKAY. 
          I'VE KIND OF SAID WHAT I SAID. 
          I, I, I LIKE THE ONE ON THE LEFT, OF COURSE THE MOST, I LIKE DOWN WHERE THE FLAG PLAZA IS DOWN THAT WAY. 
          I REALLY LIKE THAT. 
          I WOULD LIKE SOME KIND OF MONUMENT THERE TO, TO DEFINE THAT IT IS MONUMENT, NOT JUST A PLAZA WITH FLAGS ON IT. 
          AND I THINK THAT WOULD, AND, AND, AND I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE HIGH COST. 
          IT JUST, THE FLAG PLAZA DOWN THERE WITH SOME MORE AREA WOULD, WOULD SEEM APPROPRIATE TO ME. 
          BUT I, I MEAN Y'ALL HAVE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE BIT OVER TO ME. 
          SO INITIALLY I LIKED THE, THE ONE ON THE LEFT OR ON THE RIGHT BETTER, BUT I THINK I'M GETTING DRAWN INTO AS A, AS YOU DESIGNED IT TO DRAWING PEOPLE. 
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AND I THINK THAT THE DESIGN ONE WOULD, UM, MAYBE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T NECESSARILY LOOKING FOR THE MONUMENT TO COME IN THERE AND SEE WHAT IT IS. 
          UM, BUT I AGREE WITH ANNE'S POINT THAT IF YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE MONUMENT, UH, THAT, THAT SOMETIMES YOU LOSE, YOU KNOW, THE FOCUS. 
          SO MAYBE SOMETHING JUST AT THE BEGINNING SAYING, YOU KNOW, READ WHAT OUR SOLDIERS HAVE SAID AND YOU KNOW, COME HONOR THEM DOWN THERE. 
          UH, I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING A PHYSICAL STRUCTURE IN THE FLIGHT PLAZA DOES HELP, HELP YOU TELL WHAT IT IS. 
          UM, AND EVER THE PRACTICAL PERSON, I WOULD SAY THAT DESIGN TOO. 
          I COULD SEE GEESE ALL OVER THAT LINE. 
          ALL OVER THAT LINE. 
          SO, UM, I MEAN, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM. 
          IT'S A PROBLEM FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LAKE. 
          SO, UM, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE VERY FIRST MEETING WAS WE LAWN. 
          SO I THINK IT'S WAY TOO EXPENSIVE, EVEN IF THE RESIDENTS PAY FOR, IT'S, UH, THERE WAS A SLIDE YOU SHOWED EARLIER THAT WAS MORE REALISTIC OF THIS ONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IF YOU COULD PUT THAT BACK UP THERE. 
          THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          I LIKE THE BACK PART. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOULD, I, I REALLY THINK ALL THOSE CIRCULAR BENCHES AND THE REFLECTING POOL ARE UNNECESSARY. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE STATUARY IN THE BACK. 
          SOMETHING THAT, I KNOW YOU SAY EVERYBODY USES SIMILAR THINGS, BUT THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. 
          YOU HAVE THINGS WRITTEN ON 'EM SAYING IT'S A MEMORIAL SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE HONORING. 
          AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT THERE. 
          LEMME ASK YOU THIS, 'CAUSE ACTUALLY THE BRONZE PLAQUES, WERE GONNA GO ON THE WALLS, BUT WHAT'S, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA SAY? I MEAN, THE STORY OF BRENTWOOD, THOSE WILL BE DETERMINED OVER TIME. 
          THERE'S PROBABLY THINGS LIKE, MAYBE A STORY OF SOMEONE FROM BRENTWOOD WHO SERVED IT MAY BE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF OUR NATION, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          BUT IT'S STILL NOT A, TO ME ANYWAY, I, I WOULD, I DON'T CARE FOR ALL OF THAT CIRCULAR MEANDERING AROUND IT. 
          I LIKE THE BACK PART AND I THINK YOU COULD DO MORE THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT WOULD BE LOVELY. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, I'M CONFLICTED BECAUSE I DO, I I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS PART. 
          I THINK IT'S INTIMATE AND I THINK IT IS REAL A CHANCE. 
          LIKE IF YOU HAVE A SMALL GROUP OR YOU'RE JUST GOING THERE FOR PEACE AND SOCE OR WHATEVER, BUT THEN YOU STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A GROUP. 
          I KEEP THINKING OF OUR VETERANS DAY EVENT AND WHERE THEY WOULD GO, HOW WE WOULD MANAGE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO I DO, I LIKE THE BACK PART AND I, I DO THINK IT'S, THAT NEEDS TO BE, WE NEED TO HAVE A PLACE TO HAVE A GATHERING WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD PEOPLE IN THE LOBBY FROM BEFORE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          I DO LIKE THE TRADITIONAL ONE. 
          I JUST MM-HMM . 
          AND MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN DC AND I, I'VE, WE'VE BEEN TO ALL THE DIFFERENT ONES AND THERE IS SOMETHING REAL TRADITIONAL AND VERY ALMOST NOSTALGIC WITH THIS SIDE. 
          SO I, I MEAN, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE EASY TO HAVE A BIG GATHERING THERE IF YOU WANTED, BUT IT'S STILL THAT KIND OF A, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT'S, I'M VERY CONFLICTED  BECAUSE, BUT THE GEESE, YOU'VE MENTIONED THE GEESE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT MADE ME IMMEDIATELY GO, UH, LET'S GO HERE BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE BIT MAYBE LESS GEESE FRIENDLY AND UM, . 
          BUT I DO THE BACK AND LIKE KEN SAID, HAVING SOMETHING BACK THERE. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THE KOREANS. 
          I THINK IT'S THE KOREANS MONUMENT IN DC WITH THE PEOPLE. 
          AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING VERY, IT, IT'S PERSONAL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT IT'S, UM, SO I, I LIKE THAT THE, HAVING THE STATUES AROUND LIKE THAT BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT MAKES IT TANGIBLE, ESPECIALLY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AS THEY'RE WALKING THROUGH AND THEY SEE THAT. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD. 
          JUST AS A POINT, SPEAKING OF THE EXPENSE, THE, THE REASON WE WENT WITH ONE STATUE ON BOTH, BOTH BASIS IS THE STATUES ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE ELEMENT. 
          SURE. 
          BY FAR OF ANYTHING IN THESE, YOU'RE USUALLY LOOKING AT 350 TO 600,000 BUCKS A PIECE. 
          LIKE IF WE TOOK OUT THE STATUTE AND THAT ONE, THE ONE, THE ONE STATUTE WE PUT SAYS IT'D BE FAIR AND EQUAL COMPARISON, THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY $500,000 A LESS ON BOTH OF THEM ACTUALLY. 
          SO JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE DIDN'T DO AS MUCH STATUTORY. 
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AND THAT'S WHY IF YOU LOOKED AT THIS INITIALLY, LIKE ONE BIG STATUE OF A SOLDIER IN BATTLE, LIKE JUST ONE BIG STATUTE, MAYBE IT'S THE SIZE OF THIS CONFERENCE TABLE COULD BE, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU MADE IT OUT OF, COULD BE AS EXPENSIVE AS SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          THAT'S MORE OF A PLAZA. 
          THAT WAS OUR THOUGHT WAS BECAUSE OF CEREMONIES. 
          VETERAN'S DAY WOULD HAVE JULY 4TH, OR MAYBE SOMEBODY THAT DOES A PRAYER GATHERING THERE ON THE MORNING OF DAY. 
          WE WANTED MORE A LARGER PLAZA. 
          SO EVEN PEOPLE IN THE BACK ARE STILL PART OF THE MONEY. 
          SO THAT'S JUST A, FOR Y'ALL TO KNOW THE THINGS WE'VE STUDIED AND FOUND OUT AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THE STATUTES ARE REAL EXPENSIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, I WAS A LITTLE TAKEN BACK BY THE REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION NAME OF THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN ON WHAT HAPPENS. 
          FIRST THING I SAW WAS THE REFLECTIVE TOOL THAT IS CENTRAL HERE, BUT WHEN YOU GO TO THAT POOL, YOU'RE REFLECTING ON YOURSELF. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, I SEE THE NARCISSIST, UH, ISSUE THERE. 
          TO ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, THOSE TWO ELEMENTS MORE CENTRALIZED AS ONE UNIT AND, AND THE REFLECTIVE POOL ITSELF. 
          UH, WITH WHAT SIZE IS THAT GENERAL? I MEAN, DO YOU KNOW IT WAS ABOUT 10 FOOT ACROSS. 
          IF 10 FOOT ACROSS STRONG, THAT COULD CHANGE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S ENOUGH TO PUT A CONCRETE, UH, PAD IN THE MIDDLE, STILL HAVE THE WATER AND PUT THE STATUE THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, SO YOU ARE REFLECTING ON THAT STATUE AND YOUR ROLE TO ME PSYCHOLOGICALLY THAT TIES TOGETHER BETTER AND UH, THEN PULL THE FLAGS IN, UM, A LITTLE BIT. 
          PULL THAT WHOLE AREA BACK THERE. 
          TO ME IT'S ALMOST LIKE, HEY, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THIS SPACE? AND SO  BACK THERE. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ALL FEEL LIKE ONE MONUMENT AREA, YOU KNOW? AND KEN SAID THE BOB IS, BUT YOU COULD DO IT THIS WAY. 
          AND THERE'S NO MISTAKING WHEN YOU WALK TO THAT CENTRALIZED POINT THAT YOU ARE AT THE MONUMENT. 
          YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, AND UM, I HAVE TO SAY I AM DEEPLY SKEPTICAL OF DESIGN BY COMMITTEE JUST BECAUSE I KNOW IT CAN BE TOUGH, BUT, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM EVERYBODY 'CAUSE I DO THINK IT MAKES SOME GREAT OBSERVATIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND AS I WAS LOOKING AT REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION VERSUS THE STRUCTURED FOCUS, YOU KNOW, IT IS THE FIRST THING I NOTICED IS HAVING TWO FOCAL POINTS VERSUS ONE FOCAL POINT IN THE SENSE THAT REFLECTIVE EXPLANATION OR EXPLORATION WITH TWO FOCAL POINTS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REFLECTIVE POOL SEPARATE FROM THE PAVILION. 
          UM, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          THAT'S I GUESS THE QUESTION. 
          BUT THEN I STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXPERIENCES HAVE I HAD WITH OTHER FACILITIES AND IS KIM MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, GOING TO WASHINGTON DC WHICH OF COURSE ARE MUCH MORE ELABORATE, BUT THEY'RE, THEY GENERALLY SEEM TO HAVE ONE FOCAL POINT AND TWO. 
          BUT THEN HAVING BEEN TO CHEEKWOOD MANY TIMES AND THE SCULPTURE GARDENS IN CHEEKWOOD AND, UM, AND, AND THIS IS MUCH MORE LIKE THAT TO ME, IT'S MORE OF A SCULPTURE GARDEN, UH, WITH THE EXPLORATION ASPECT. 
          UM, AND I THINK SCULPTURE GARDENS CAN BE VERY WELL RECEIVED AND SUCCESSFUL. 
          UM, SO I, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF IT BEING KIND OF AN INTEGRATED, WELL THOUGHT THROUGH DESIGN AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD THE SCOPE THAT CAME OUT AND SHOWED THE PROXIMITY OF THE HANDICAPPED PARKING TO THE, UH, I GUESS THAT'S THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHICH, YOU KNOW, FOR EN ENTERING THE PARK, I THINK ANYWHERE YOU PUT HANDICAPPED PARKING IS GONNA BE A SIMILAR THING IF YOU'RE GONNA EXPERIENCE THE WHOLE THING. 
          UM, SO I GUESS TO ME, I I, I CAN SEE IT, I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE DECISION, YOU KNOW, IS, IS YOUR FOCUS OR YOU'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, YOUNG PEOPLE TO GO THERE AND JUST REFLECT ON THE DUTY OF THE COMMITMENT AND THE CITIZENSHIP AND TRY TO HAVE PLAQUES AND STUFF WHERE IT'S, I I, I CAN SEE HOW THAT COULD WORK. 
          UM, MY MAIN CONCERN IS JUST THE, THE SCOPE. 
          I, I DON'T WANT IT TO GET SO BIG AND SO AMBITIOUS THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT ALL. 
          UM, AND, AND, AND I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN BUSINESS QUITE A FEW TIMES WHERE PEOPLE INTEGRATE EVERY GOOD IDEA INTO A CONCEPT AND THEY LOSE THE HEART OF THE, THE EFFORT AND IT BECOMES TOO BIG TO SUCCEED. 
          UM, SO I, I WOULDN'T WANNA SEE THIS THING TRY TO INCORPORATE EVERY GOOD IDEA AND GET TO BE SO BIG THAT WE CAN'T FUND IT AND WE CAN'T EXECUTE IT. 
          UM, BECAUSE I DO AGREE THE COMMENT THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO THE FIVE POLE PAVILION AND HAVE A VERY, VERY NICE MONUMENT THAT ACCOMPLISH THIS 80% OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I CAN SEE THAT I'M NOT TAKING THAT IN THERE. 
          ON THE OTHER HAND, IF WE HAVE SUPPORT 
          [02:00:01]
MUST, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT THEN THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT, I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO HAVE AN IDEA IF WE WENT THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE TOVE EXPIRATION AS PRESENTED, HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN WE COULD APPEAL FOR THE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE FUNDRAISING TO SEE IF WE'RE ABLE TO RAISE $2 MILLION PLUS, YOU KNOW, AND REALLY PROBABLY THREE OR THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO EXECUTE IT THE WAY THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE HAPPY WITH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN'S GO NO GO AS FAR AS THAT. 
          I MEAN, DO WE, WOULD WE HAVE TO KNOW BY MARCH OR APRIL OR, I GUESS WE MAY NOT HAVE A BACKEND ON IT, BUT WE'D HAVE TO AT SOME POINT DECIDE TO TRY TO EXECUTE THE FULL SCOPE OR DO WE SCALE IT BACK TO SOMETHING AT, IN MY ASK, I WOULD SAY LET'S, LET'S, UH, LET'S AT LEAST GO TO AUGUST 1ST ON FUNDRAISING. 
          BUT WE MAY HAVE TO MOVE THAT BACK BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE NEED TO GO BACK AND, AND CHANGE TO SOME DESIGN, SOME ADD SOME FEATURES THAT Y'ALL HAVE MENTIONED. 
          OR AT LEAST LOOK AT 'EM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND TELL Y'ALL WHY THAT DOESN'T WORK OR YOU'RE REALLY ADDING STEPS OR WHATEVER. 
          WHAT I NEED TO KNOW IS, ARE Y'ALL GOOD WITH US WORKING WITH A REFLECTIVE EXPLORATION, TAKING SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS? 'CAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE Y'ALL'S APPROVAL. 
          WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE APPROVAL OF WHERE IT'S GONNA BE AND WHATNOT. 
          AND THEN THAT WILL DELAY OUR FUNDRAISING. 
          BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE AS YOU SAID EARLIER, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT RIGHT THAN QUICK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, UM, AND UH, THE COMMITTEE SEEMS DEDICATED TO TRYING TO, TO DO SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE BRENTWOOD PROUD THAT HAD  SCOPE OF IT. 
          BECAUSE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE IS THAT WHOLE SECTION. 
          SO WE DID NOT WANT TO JUST USE A LITTLE BIT OF IT AND BE ALMOST AS EXPENSIVE AS THIS AND NOT USE IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME NATURAL FEATURES THAT JUST HAPPEN TO BE THERE, LIKE THAT LAKE BEHIND IT, WHICH ACTUALLY WORKS ON BOTH OF 'EM. 
          UM, BUT WE JUST NEED DIRECTION AS A COMMITTEE FOR OUR NEXT TWO OR THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS. 
          SO WE'RE PROBABLY JANUARY OR FEBRUARY COMING BACK WITH Y'ALL TO SEE IF , I JUST NEED TO KNOW THE CHAIR. 
          DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE AND TWEAK IT? OR THIS ONE? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN SCALE IT BACK. 
          IT, IT'S PRETTY MUCH, IT'S, IT KIND OF HAS TO BE, I REALLY DOESN'T WORK. 
          'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT I GUESS OVER A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, UH, IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          SO, SO, SO KIND OF BOTH THINGS THAT YOU AND KIM TOUCHED ON AND THEN STEVE'S AND KEN KIND OF ADD TO THAT. 
          IF YOU TOOK THAT FIRST ONE AND PUT THE STATUE IN THE REFLECTION POOL, AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED MOVING THAT AMPHITHEATER IN CLOSER. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MORE ONE UNIT. 
          SO IF PEOPLE DIDN'T WANNA DO ALL THE WALK, WHATEVER, IT'S ALL RIGHT THERE. 
          YOU'D STILL BE USING THE PROPERTY MM-HMM . 
          BUT YOU WOULD HAVE A MORE TRADITIONAL DESIGN BECAUSE THOSE ELEMENTS WOULD BE CLOSER TOGETHER. 
          IT WOULD GIVE YOU MORE CLOSER AND FOCAL POINT, RIGHT? YEAH, BECAUSE LIKE THE WORLD WAR II MEMORIAL, I MEAN IT'S GOT THE, THE WATER IN THE CENTER AND THE UM, PILLARS MM-HMM . 
          IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD? PILLARS. 
          YEAH. 
          IT GOES ALL LIKE AROUND IT, YOU KNOW, UM, I DUNNO. 
          SO I, SO THAT WOULD MAYBE HELP MAYBE BRING THE COST DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WOULD GIVE IT MORE THE TRADITIONAL LOOK BUT YET STILL BEING BRENTWOOD BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE GRASS, WE HAVE THE TREES, UM, JUST SOME SORT OF WAY TO BRING IT DOWN. 
          SO IS THERE A GROUP CONSENSUS TO FOCUS ON DESIGN ONE AS THE BASE AND LET THE COMMITTEE WORK WITH FEEDBACK AND UH, SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU PROVIDED TODAY? I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S ADAPTABLE CONSIDERING WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THIS BEING KIND OF, THIS IS THE DESIGN SORT THIS, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS REALLY NOT THAT SCALABLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND WE, LIKE I SAID, WE DID NOT WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF IT BEING UNIQUELY BRENTWOOD AND ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT YOUNGER GENERATION INTERACT, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR LIBRARY AND LIBRARY ROOMS AND DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          THAT'S, THAT WAS PART OF OUR, OUR GOAL TO OWN SOMETHING THAT WAS LIKE THIS RATHER THAN JUST A TRADITIONAL, AND THIS IN A SENSE IS TRADITIONAL TOO, STONE STACK WALLS 
          [02:05:01]
AND, BUT THERE ARE TWEAKS THAT I'M SURE WE CAN MAKE IS THAT I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT DIRECTION I DON'T WANT WASTE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT IS THE DIRECTION. 
          I GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU, MY PLANNING COMMISSIONER KICKED IN WHEN I SAW THIS ON THE LEFT WHERE THE LITTLE GUY IS WALKING TOWARD THEIR, UM, I'M WONDERING IF THAT GRASS GROWING OUT INTO THE FREEFORM SIDEWALK IS 80 A COMPLIANT  THAT'S SIX FEET OR NOT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO BASE START OFF DESIGN ONE IS THE BASE, HAVE THE COMMITTEE GO BACK, TAKE YOUR INPUT, SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH IT, AND WE'LL COME BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS. 
          APPRECIATE THAT RECONSIDERATION. 
          SURE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU COMMITTEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NON AGENDA ITEMS. UH, PUSH FORWARD TO JANUARY. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          . 
          I THINK WE, YEAH, JANUARY OR FEBRUARY WE'LL HAVE TO MEET AS A COMMITTEE AT MAYBE ONE OR TWO. 
          SO STUFF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE EXPERT. 
          YEAH, WE'LL WORK WITH YOUR TIMELINE, WHATEVER YOU NEED. 
          AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL HAVE TO TAKE SOME TIME TO ACTUALLY INCORPORATE THE CHANGES AND THANK EVERYONE. 
          GREAT. 
          I'M IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS. 
          CHANGE, CHANGE STUFF ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU THINK IT'S PERFECT AND SOMEWHERE IN THERE. 
          ALRIGHT, JASON, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, NO. 
          NO. 
          I THINK WE'RE OUT OF TIME. 
          SO THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          ALTHOUGH I, WELL LET ME, ACTUALLY, I TAKE THAT BACK. 
          I DID LEAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          IT SAYS AN ARTICLE. 
          KEN SAW THIS ON THE NEWS AND I HAD, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE IT, BUT THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS OCCASIONALLY ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE AT AND T BUILDING ON FRANKLIN. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE KNOW THAT VANDERBILT OWNS IT. 
          THERE'S A NEWS ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT, SO I JUST PULLED IT, PUT IT ON THERE SO YOU CAN TAKE IT BACK WITH YOU AND LOOK AT IT. 
          DO THEY ACTUALLY OWN IT OR ARE THEY JUST LEASING? NO, LEASING IT. 
          THEY DID NOT BUY IT AND THEY DON'T INTEND TO BUY IT. 
          I THOUGHT THE, THE PHYSICIAN THAT'S KIND OF IN CHARGE OUT, HE WAS AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. 
          HE WAS AT THE UH, YEAH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT, SO THAT'S AS GOOD AN EXPLANATION AS YOU'LL FIND ON SO ON THE YEAH, IT'S ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT, Y'ALL HAVE A MOMENT TO MEET OUR FAMILY HERE FOR THE MAYOR FOR THE DAY. 
          OH, HEY HERE. 
          SO FOR ADJOURN, SO.
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