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THIS MORNING, SO HOPEFULLY SHE'LL
[ Brentwood Planning Commission Briefing November 25, 2025 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Planning Commission to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
BE BACK TOMORROW.THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR THE APPROVAL OF THREE, FOUR STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS.
THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GO ABOVE THREE STORIES, IT'S ALLOWED IN THE CODE.
IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, IT JUST REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK AGAINST IT OR WHATEVER.
SO THAT'S THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
AND IT RELATES TO THE MARYLAND FARMS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
THE EXTENSION OF THAT MASTER PLAN, THAT'S WHAT IT RELATES TO.
WE DID THIS THREE YEARS AGO AS WELL.
SO I'LL JUST OPEN THE FLOOR OF PUBLIC HEARING IF PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK, THEY SPEAK IF THEY DON'T.
I JUST SAID, AND NOW THE FLOOR, NOW PUBLIC HEARING IS OVER.
YOU'RE, YOU ARE, YOU'RE A CITIZEN.
YOU CAN DOUBLE BACK AND GO GET IN LINE, BUT, SO THAT FIRST PUBLIC HEARING PART IS PURELY FOR THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURES, NOT ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO THE MASTER PLAN.
MARK, IT'S REALLY FOR THE FACT THAT IT WAS APPROVED THREE YEARS AGO AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION PROBABLY FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS BECAUSE THE ECONOMY WIPED THEM OUT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST.
CAN YOU BRING A, THE LAYOUT OF THAT OVERALL PLAN FOR US TO REVIEW IT? ONE MORE, BUT THAT'LL BE IN OUR REGULAR AUDIT.
THAT'S OUR REGULAR, THE PUBLIC, THE HEARING IS JUST FOR US TO SAY, WE ARE THE PUBLIC.
HERE'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
AND, AND IT'S JUST RELATED TO THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, THE FOUR STORIES.
UM, BUT THE EXTENSION IS REGULAR AGENDA ITEM ONE.
SO THE, THE FIRST ITEM ON CONSENT IS, UH, BPC 24 0 8 0 0 5.
IT'S A MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION FOR A MONUMENT SIGN AT 99 SEABOARD LANE.
UM, THIS IS NEAR COSTCO, ACROSS THE STREET FROM COSTCO.
THAT'S WHERE MANIACS AND YEAH.
SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED SIGN, A MULTI-TENANT SIGN.
UM, IT MEETS OUR SIZE AND LOCATION REQUIREMENTS PER THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
NEXT ITEM ON OUR, UH, CONSENT AGENDA IS A MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION FOR TAPESTRY AT BRENTWOOD.
LOCATED AT 400 CENTER VIEW DRIVE, UH, C FOUR.
IT'S RIGHT NEAR KROGER AND, UM, CITY PARK AREA.
UH, 80 SKY REQUESTS APPROVAL FOR A MINOR SITE PLAN, ALTERATION FOR TAPESTRY.
THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES AN UPDATED EXTERIOR PAINT, COLORS, NEW SIGNAGE AT THE LEASING OFFICE, MINOR PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION IMPROVEMENTS AND ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SITE, AMENITIES AND PARKING.
SO IF I CAN UPDATING THIS, UH, SIDEWALK AREA RIGHT HERE TO BETTER ALIGN IT WITH THE LEASING OFFICE RIGHT HERE.
THEY'RE RELOCATING THE BIKE RACK TO THE SIDE, ADJUSTING SOME OF THESE, UH, PARKING SPACES RIGHT HERE.
AND, UH, THIS, UH, FENCE FENCING FOR SOME OUTDOOR SEATING IS BEING ELIMINATED.
AND THEN SO THEY'RE ONLY ELIMINATING THAT ONE TREE, NOT ALL THE TREES, CORRECT? YES.
SO HERE, ARE THERE EXISTING COLORS ON THEIR SITE FOR THEIR BUILDING? THEY'RE GONNA GO MORE TOWARDS THIS, UH, BEIGE AND KIND OF BRONZE LOOK.
THAT'S ON THE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE.
THEY'RE KEEPING THE ORANGE, UH, ROOFING COLOR.
UH, BUT THEY'RE JUST GETTING RID OF THIS RED.
THEY'RE NOT MAKING IT SO COLORFUL.
THEY'RE MAKING IT MORE YEAR ROUND COLOR.
UM, HERE'S THE NEW SIGNAGE ABOVE THEIR LEASING OFFICE RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN THEY'RE ADDING, UH, I GOT A BETTER PICTURE HERE.
APARTMENT LEASING OFFICE ON THE AWNING RIGHT HERE.
UM, BOTH MEET OUR SIGN CODE STAFF HAS NO ISSUE WITH IT.
UM, WHY ARE THEY GETTING RID OF A TREE? JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE OFFICE LINE BETTER.
AND THERE WITH THE, WITH THE REALIGNMENT OF THE SIDEWALK.
THAT WAY YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO IT.
SEE THE SIGNAGE, SEE THE WORDS.
JUST MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
CLIFF, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE, BUT IT SAYS APARTMENT LEASING ISN'T TAPESTRY.
THEY CAN CALL THEMSELVES APARTMENTS.
I MEAN, IS IT, I, WE'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH KRISTEN CORN, OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
UH, YEAH, IT'S HARD TO REGULATE THE, THE WORDING.
THE WORDING, THE MESSAGE I GUESS.
I MEAN THERE IT GETS PRETTY COMPLICATED.
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BUT I'LL ASK KRISTEN.YEAH, I MEAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.
IT WAS APPROVED AS CONDOS LAID OUT HIS CONDOS.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REVISED FINAL PLAT AT BRENT HAVEN SUBDIVISION SECTION THREE LOT 1 0 5 AT 8 0 1 5 WEEL ROAD.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS, UH, PLAT, SO THE HOUSE CURRENTLY FACES WEEL ROAD.
THEY ARE, THE FRONT SETBACK COMES FROM WEEL ROAD, REARS BACK HERE.
THEY ARE GONNA BE TEARING DOWN THE HOUSE.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE ROTATING THE SETBACK.
SO THE FRONT SETBACK IS GOING TO BE COMING FROM POPLAR PLACE OR YEAH, FROM PARKER, PARKER PLACE.
SO IT MEETS SETBACKS FOR, UM, R TWO.
THEY'RE JUST REORIENTING THE HOUSE TO HAVE A POPLAR, A PARKER PLACE ADDRESS INSTEAD OF A MICHAEL ROAD ADDRESS.
THE BANGLER, RIGHT, THE SHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE RIGHT HERE, UM, IS TO BE REMOVED AS WELL.
MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION FOR THE HUB AT MALLORY LOCATED AT 7,100 COMMERCE WAY ZONING C3.
THEY'RE WANTING TO, UM, ADD IN FIVE DIRECTIONAL LINEAGE LOCATIONS ON THEIR SITE ON THE FUTURE HUB AT MALLORY SITE.
THEY'RE GONNA BE FOUR FEET TALL, ABOUT A LITTLE OVER THREE FEET WIDE.
UM, THE TEXT THAT YOU SEE ON THIS IMAGE IS NOT FINALIZED.
JUST A, THIS IS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY'RE PLACED OUT THERE.
SO THE TEXT IS NOT WHAT IT'S GONNA BE, WHAT YOU SEE.
SO THEY'RE JUST ADDING THESE FIVE SIGNS ON THE SITE AT THESE CURRENT LOCATIONS.
WE CHECKED WITH ENGINEERING IN REGARDS TO SITE DISTANCE AND KIND OF ANY INTERFERENCE WITH, UM, DRIVER VIEWPOINTS AND ENGINEERING DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM ON CONSENT IS A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR THE HAWTHORNE SUBDIVISION, FORMERLY KNOWN AS 1715 VERNON ROAD, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE MCADAMS PROPERTY, FORMERLY KNOWN AS, UM, THEY RECENTLY CHANGED THEIR NAME TO HAWTHORNE OR CHANGED THE NAME OF IT TO HAWTHORNE.
BUT THIS IS THE END, AT THE END OF, UH, TERRA MOORE SUBDIVISION.
THE EXTENSION OF NEW BRISTOL LANE.
SO THIS PROPOSAL, THIS REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN IS TO COMBINE LOTS FOUR AND FIVE.
SO THIS IS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN.
SO THEY'RE WANTING TO COMBINE THESE TWO LOTS HERE.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE REVISED PRELIMINARY SHOWING THE COMBINATION THERE.
SO THAT'S THE REQUEST TO, UH, MAKE ONE LARGER LOT THERE.
UM, UH, DO YOU REMEMBER THE ACREAGE? IS IT SIX SEVEN ACRE? LEMME DOUBLE CHECK FOR YOU A LOT.
UH, NO, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK FOR YOU.
DOES THAT GO INTO FARM SIZE? DOES IT MOVE INTO A NEW SIZE? IS FIVE ACRES? UH, WELL, IS IT, OR THREE IS THE NUMBER? I'M THINK ABOUT IF IT'S OVER THREE ACRES, YOU CAN HAVE CHICKENS AND STAR WIFE.
WE DON'T HAVE THREE ACRES
SO THAT'S THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN ON CONSENT.
THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM SIX, IS THE REVISED FINAL PLAT.
THAT REFLECTS THAT LOT COMBINATION OF LOTS FOUR AND FIVE.
SO, UH, JUST THE, THE PLAT TO MAKE THAT OFFICIAL, UM,
SO THE NEXT ITEM, CONSENT ITEM SEVEN IS ANOTHER ITEM FOR THE HAWTHORNE SUBDIVISION.
IT'S A PROPOSED MONUMENT SIGN.
UM, MONUMENT SIGN IS TO BE LOCATED THERE JUST BEHIND THE SIDEWALK.
THAT'S THE ELEVATIONS THAT GREAT.
DO A GOOD JOB AT THIS WITH ASSOCIATED.
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THERE ANYTHING ON THE PLANS YET ABOUT HOW THEY'RE CONNECTING THE INGRESS EGRESS FOR EACH LOT? IS THAT ON ONE OF THESE DRAWINGS AND I JUST MISSED IT? THE TOPOGRAPHY THERE IS INTERESTING HOW THE DRIVEWAYS ARE CONNECTED.HOW, HOW THE, HOW THE, THAT THAT'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET.
WE DON'T, WE WON'T HAVE THAT UNTIL EACH OKAY.
PERMIT FOR EACH HOUSE IS SUBMITTED.
I DIDN'T THINK WE WOULD, I JUST LOOKING AT IT RAW, IT WAS, IT'S UH, IT'S INTERESTING PROPERTY SINKHOLE, BUT THEY HAVE TO MEET ALL THE BUILDING CODES.
THERE'S MAXIMUM SLOPES AND THERE'S SEPARATION.
AND I ASSUME THEY'VE ALREADY FIGURED OUT THAT IS CONNECTED TO
IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT CONNECTION.
SO THE ONE ITEM ON REGULAR AGENDA IS THE EXTENSION OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR 51 0 1 MARYLAND WAY.
FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE MARYLAND FARMS YMCA PROPERTY.
SO THE MASTER PLAN WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN JANUARY OF 2023 BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, THAT PLAN IS GOOD FOR THREE YEARS.
THE MASTER PLAN IS GOOD FOR THREE YEARS.
OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVEN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION YET, SO THEY ARE BEFORE YOU AGAIN, UM, ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION TO THAT APPROVED MASTER PLAN.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN.
THEY'RE STILL PROPOSING, UM, THREE, FOUR STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS.
UM, A THREE STORY, UH, PARKING STRUCTURE, UH, A RETAIL AND RESTAURANT VILLAGE WITH NINE SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING 332 SURFACE PARKING SPACES AND ALSO 913 PARKING SPACES, UH, WITHIN THE PARKING STRUCTURE.
UM, WE, THERE'S SOME RENDERINGS.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS MASTER PLAN.
WHEN THEY GET TO THE SITE PLAN STAGES OF THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT MORE DETAIL FOR DETAILED COLOR RENDERINGS, DETAILED PLANS AND ALL OF THAT.
SO, TODD, THIS, THIS MIGHT BE A CHRIS, A QUESTION FOR KRISTEN.
WHAT AUTHORITY DO WE HAVE? I MEAN, WE JUST KEEP KICKING THE CAN.
I MEAN, THIS IS AN EYESORE THAT'S TERRIBLE EYESORE.
AND DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU THREE YEARS UNLESS YOU CLEAN UP THIS EYESORE THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE.
UM, OR IS IT KIND OF MORE STATUS? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, TO ME, OUR GOAL IS TO NOT GET THE CITY SUED ANYWAY.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I OPERATE.
BUT IF, DO WE REALLY HAVE A LOT OF LEG, UH, LEGS TO STAND ON TO SAY, HEY, WE GAVE YOU THREE YEARS AND THIS LOOKS TERRIBLE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE STATUS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, WHAT'S THE PROPOSED TIMELINE AND WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO, TO DO A LITTLE MORE CLEANUP OF THE EXISTING SITE? I DROP BY THE SITE EVERY DAY.
THERE, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CITY ORDINANCES THAT, THAT THEY'RE VIOLATING.
WELL IT IS BEING USED WELL, THE BACKSIDE.
I, WE JUST HAD ALL THE COMMISSIONERS JUST GOT A LETTER FROM A LADY WHO WAS SO HAPPY AND MOVED BACK TO BRENTWOOD AND SHE DROVE BY THERE.
AND I SAID, NO, PARKING'S ON THE BACKSIDE.
IF THERE WAS SOMETHING IT ACTUALLY JUST SAID PARKING IN THE REAR OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, IF THEY JUST TOOK OUT THOSE TENNIS COURTS AND JUST CLEANED THE MARYLAND WAY SIDE SIDE UP, IT WOULD JUST LOOK A LOT BETTER.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT VIOLATING THESE CITY CODES, BUT THEN WE HAVE THE RIGHT, WE'VE SAID, HEY, WE GAVE YOU THREE YEARS TO DO SOMETHING.
AND YEAH, BUT HIS ARGUMENT, MIKE, IS GONNA BE, IT'S NOT HIS FAULT.
THE ECONOMY IS THE THING THAT SWIPED HIM OUT.
I MEAN, WE, WHEN HE SAT HERE THREE YEARS AGO AND MADE THAT PRESENTATION JUST UNBELIEVABLE THAT HE WAS GONNA DO ALL OF THAT IN THAT AREA.
AND HE WAS GONNA SPEND A FORTUNE.
AND THEN YOU SIT BACK AND SAY, WELL WAIT A MINUTE.
'CAUSE THE ECONOMY'S GONE SOUR AROUND ME.
AND WHO'S TO SAY IT'S NOT GONNA BE BAD IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS AGAIN? YEAH.
I MEAN, IT MAY BE ANOTHER 10 YEARS FOR ALL WE KNOW.
I, WE CAN AMEND THIS TO ONE YEAR INSTEAD OF THREE.
IT'S A CURRENTLY A LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING USE.
SO WHETHER OR NOT YOU EXTEND THEIR MASTER PLAN, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS IS INDEFINITELY
UM, WHAT'S A LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING USE THE YMCA FACILITY AS IT STANDS TODAY.
IT, IT COMPLIES WITH THE ZONING, REGARDLESS.
SO THEY, SO WHETHER OR NOT YOU EXTEND THEIR MASTER PLAN, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS THEY ARE TODAY.
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SO LOOK, THE APPLICANT'S, UH, REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE.I MEAN, HE'S HEARD THE DISCUSSION.
UM, IT'D BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE HIM VERY OFTEN.
AND JUST, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT FOR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY QUESTIONS I GET ABOUT THAT LOT AND I'M LIKE, I WOULD OWNS IT.
THEY JUST OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T BROKEN GROUND ON IT.
AND SO FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR SOME DISCUSSION AND KIND OF GIVE HIGHWOODS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON IT WOULD BE GOOD.
AND THIS IS TO EXTEND THE PLAN AS IT WAS APPROVED THREE YEARS AGO.
AND I ASSUME NOT BEING ON THE COMMISSION, I ASSUME A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE.
IT WAS, SO THE IMPACT OF 1300 ADDITIONAL CARS POTENTIALLY ON MARYLAND WAY TRAFFIC STUDIES, STORM WATER, EVERYTHING.
ACTUALLY REWATCHED THE VIDEO FROM THREE YEARS AGO OF THE, OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION SESSION.
AND IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSION.
UM, PLANT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS FINE.
WE TALKED ABOUT INGRESS AND EGRESS.
WE TALKED ABOUT ACCESS TO THE PARKING GARAGE, ACCESS TO THE PARK TRAILS.
IT'S, IT CONFORMED WITH ALL THE CODES.
I WOULD JUST, I WOULD BE MORE, I'D BE MORE WILLING TO GIVE A ONE YEAR EXTENSION BECAUSE IF WE GIVE THREE AND IT DOESN'T GET CLEANED UP, IT'S GONNA SIT THERE FOR THREE YEARS.
I'M JUST NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.
BUT AGAIN, IT DOES CONFORM TO CODES, BUT MY PHONE RINGS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.
SO WE'LL HAVE ALMOST DISCUSSION MONDAY BASED ON THE ECONOMY.
I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME PLAN, NOT, IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF WORK TO RESUBMIT AND, AND IT KEEPS US HONEST TO THEM.
HONEST TO ME, I THINK, I THINK MICHAEL ASKED THE QUESTION THREE YEARS AGO AND THEY SAID THAT THEIR PLAN WAS TO SCRAPE THE SITE SHORTLY AFTER GETTING THE APPROVAL, THE MASTER PLAN.
THERE'S A FAIR NUMBER OF PEOPLE STILL PLAYING RACKET SPORTS THERE.
IF YOU, IF YOU TALK TO 'EM INTO SCRAPING THE SITE, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE ALSO GONNA RAISE THEIR HANDS IF YOU SCRAPE THE, THE STUFF THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT USED.
WELL ALSO I THINK COMMUNICATION IS, IS CRITICAL.
'CAUSE THE SITE STILL KIND OF SAYS TENNIS OR WHATEVER.
IF, IF IT SAID, YOU KNOW, NEW BUILDING, NEW OFFICE STRUCTURE COMING, LIKE IT ARTICULATED WHAT IS TO BE COMING, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD HELP PEOPLE'S UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT BUILT YET, BUT IT'S COMING.
A COMING IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY RELATIVE TERM SINCE IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS COMING AND I GUESS NO PLANS AND YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY ASKING FOR ANOTHER THREE.
BUT I THINK WE'LL HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION MONDAY AND YEP.
WE'LL HAVE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH THE APPLICANT AND GET SOME ANSWERS.
NOT JUST FOR US, BUT FOR THE CITY.
I, I, WHICH I'D BE GLAD TO DO.
PUT IN A COUPLE OF SINKS THERE.
I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY HELP THE APPLICANT MONDAY NIGHT.
WHEN YOU DISCUSS THIS, IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO, UM, LINE OUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY DOESN'T LOOK GOOD, IS IT THE CHUNKS OF CONCRETE THAT IN THE PARKING LOT? IS IT JUST THE PARKING LOT'S DIRTY? IS IT THE PLASTIC BARRICADES AT THE YES.
ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S GOT NINE, UH, SIX DAYS.
LET'S MAKE, SO YEAH, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR HOMEWORK THAT NEAT AND TURKEY.
WELL, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
PERFECT GUYS, HAVE A GREAT THANKSGIVING.