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[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing September 18, 2025 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the September 22nd Agenda, the item below will be discussed: Old Smyrna Road - City Commission Public Input Presentation This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
MY HEAD IN MY NOTES, SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.IT DOESN'T GET MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT.
WHERE, WHERE, WHERE DOES IT TAKE PLACE? IT'S RIGHT HERE IN THIS BUILDING OVER AT THE FIRE STATION BASE.
YOU ALL KNOW UNITED WAY IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
AND THE CITY, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BETTER MUNICIPAL CAMPAIGNS THAT WOULD BE, UH, WHICH WE REALLY APPRECIATE.
WE DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S FOR SURE.
UH, GOING OVER THE UPCOMING AGENDA, UH, LET'S SEE HERE.
WE HAVE A FIRE PREVENTION WEEK PROCLAMATION.
WE HAVE AN OATH OF OFFICE FOR DEVON TUCKER, NEW FIREFIGHTER, BOTH OF OFFICE FOUR, THREE POLICE OFFICERS, MEGAN HASS OR HAAS HA HA, JOSH MEYER AND, UH, BARRY WILSON.
UH, FIRST TIME WE, WE HAVE A REALLY, AS YOU KNOW, A REALLY SHORT AGENDA HERE.
SO WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL WE HAVE FOR THE MEETING.
SO THE FIRST ITEM IS AN AGREEMENT WITH SESSIONS PAVING COMPANY FOR ROADWAY AND DRIVEWAY PATCHING REPAIRS FOR WATER SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
AND SO WE DO THIS PERIODICALLY AND, UH, OFTEN THERE'LL BE TYPES OF WORK, UH, MAIN BREAKS, UH, DAMAGE TO STREETS OR CURBING THE DRIVEWAYS.
AND, UH, THAT'LL REQUIRE SOME, SOME WORK.
SO WE DO, UH, A QUANTITIES BASED BID TRYING TO ESTIMATE THE QUANTITIES.
AND, UH, WE DID THAT, UH, ON THE 29TH.
THEY SOLICITED THE BIDS FOR THE SERVICES.
AUGUST 29TH, UH, THE LOWEST BID WAS $187,250 OUT OF FOUR PROPOSALS.
AND THE LOWEST WAS FROM SESSIONS PAVING.
THE HIGHEST WAS, UH, JUST OVER 298,000.
SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE IN HIS UNIT COST.
UM, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE LOW BID ALSO IF IS AN OPTION TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT, UH, FOR TWO YEARS ON A YEAR BY YEAR BASIS.
SO A YEAR BY YEAR, UP TO TWO YEARS MAXIMUM.
AND THE, UH, UH, THE UNIT QUANTITIES INCLUDED IN THE BID SHEET ARE ESTIMATED AMOUNTS.
SO THOSE ARE, UH, UH, QUANTITIES ARE ESTIMATES.
AND SO IT'S ABOUT GETTING UNIT QUANTITIES.
SO WE'LL PROBABLY VARY OFF OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO PREDICT EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE.
BUT, UH, THIS IS A PRE ROUTINE ITEM FOR US.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THIS, WE'VE WORKED WITH SESSIONS QUITE A BIT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
I MEAN, THEY'VE, AND THEY'VE BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY THE PARTNER.
I MEAN, FROM THE PUBLIC WORK STANDPOINT, FROM THE STAFF STANDPOINT, YEAH.
AND THEY ACTUALLY HELD THE CON THE CONTRACT THE LAST FIVE YEARS PRIOR TO THIS.
WHAT CONTRACT IS THIS? ONE YEAR? YEAH, IT'S A, THIS IS A, I THINK IT'S A ONE YEAR WITH ONE YEAR WITH OPTION TO EXTEND OPTION YEAR EXTEND.
30, 30 YEAR AT A TIME FOR UP TO TWO EXTENSIONS.
WE CAN'T GET ANY GOOD EQUIPMENT.
I, I JUST GIVE UP MY HEARING AIDS BACK IN MICROPHONE.
YOU CAN PROCEED THE MICROPHONE FAR AWAY FROM THE SPEAKER SO IT DOESN'T, YES.
SOMETIMES THE MICROPHONE AND THE SPEAKER ARE TOO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER SO IT'S BACK.
SO IF SHE HELD IT MICROPHONE FAR AWAY.
SO I'M TRYING TO TURN THIS THING OFF, BUT I CAN'T SEE IF YOU CAN USE THAT CORD AND BRING THAT FURTHER AS FAR AWAY FROM YOU AS POSSIBLE AND SEE IF IT AVOIDS THE FEEDBACK.
NO, I JUST, HE NEEDS TO TAKE THIS TO THE OTHER ROOM AND GET IT OUTTA HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE PUTS IT THOUGH.
IF HE'S DOWN HE MIGHT PUT IT IN THE WRONG SPOT.
WELL, WE MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IF THAT SAME SITUATION WOULD HAPPENED OR NOT, BUT I'M GONNA TRY A DIFFERENT ONE.
WE'LL TALK LOUD FOR YOU, HUH? WE'LL TALK LOUD FOR YOU.
SO THE SECOND ITEM IS THE APPROVAL TO PURCHASE OUR ROCK SALT, UH, PLANNING FOR THE WINTER.
SO, UH, FOR THE STREETS, THIS AGAIN IS A, A ROUTINE ITEM.
UH, WE HAVE HISTORICALLY PURCHASED IT UTILIZING THE TENNESSEE STATEWIDE CONTRACT.
AND UH, UH, THIS IS FROM WHARTON SALT AND IT'S UH, $121 AND 28 CENTS PER TON.
UH, AND REMAINS THAT UNTIL MAY 31ST OF 26.
SO THIS IS JUST AN AUTHORIZATION, UH, FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $40,000.
AGAIN, WE WON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT OUR QUANTITIES ARE.
WE INITIALLY ESTIMATE WE COULD USE UP TO 300 TONS, BUT IF WE NEED TO, THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO USE UP TO 325 TONS.
SO WE HAVE ANY LEFT FROM LAST YEAR.
I'M SURE WE HAVE SOME LEFT FROM LAST YEAR.
DALE, DO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SALT LEFT FROM LAST YEAR? YES, WE DO.
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ANYWHERE FROM, WE GO THROUGH ANYWHERE FROM 700 TO 900 TON.THIS WAS ONLY BUDGETED TO PUT ABOUT 300 BACK.
MEANING WE HAVE QUITE A BIT STILL IN THE, IN THE BUILDING PROBABLY.
I'M GONNA GUESS WE, UH, I THINK THE BUILDING AT FIRE STATION FOUR CAN MAYBE HOLD ABOUT 1200 TON.
AND THE, THIS BUILDING PROBABLY CURRENTLY HAS ABOUT A THOUSAND TON IN IT.
IT, IT CAN MAX OUT ABOUT 1500 TON.
BUT UH, AGAIN, WE USE ABOUT, WE CAN USE 900 TON IN THE LAST THREE YEARS AVERAGE IS WHAT WE COULD USE.
SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET CAUGHT IN CASE IT'S A 1500 TON YEAR.
BUT YEAH, WE'RE NOT BUYING AS MUCH AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE QUITE A BIT ON HAND.
WE ALWAYS PURCHASE BASED ON THE FARMER'S ALMANAC.
I HOPE WE DON'T USE A ONE TON.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, I THINK Y'ALL MAY HAVE COVERED THIS IN PREVIOUS YEAR, BUT DOES THE SALT EXPIRE OR IS THERE ANY, I MEAN IS LIKE, IS THERE ANY REASON WE HAVE TO DO A ROTATION SO THAT WE USE THE OLD SALT FIRST SO IT DOESN'T CAKE UP OR GET SALAD OR IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER? SALT TO SALT TO SALT.
AND WHENEVER WE GET TO IT, I MEAN WE GET IT OUTTA THE BUCKET TRUCKS SO WE CAN TRY TO SEE AND, AND WHEN WE CLEANED OUT THE SALT BIN BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT WE DID AT THE SERVICE CENTER TO REPAIR THAT ONE, THERE WASN'T ANY PROBLEM WITH THE SALT THAT WAS AT THE BA AT THE BACK.
PROBABLY BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE WERE, IF WE WAS PUTTING IT IN FROM THE FRONT AND TAKING IT OUT FROM THE FRONT, WE COULD HAVE SOME 25-YEAR-OLD SALT AT THE BACK, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AND YOU KNOW, BUT IF IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT DIDN'T CAUSE US ANY PROBLEMS. YEAH.
SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY BUY SALT EVERY YEAR.
WE SKIPPED A FEW YEARS WHEN WE'VE HAD LIGHT, SO THAT'S GOOD.
YEAH, THIS IS A PRETTY LIGHT PURCHASE.
THAT HAS BEEN THE WAY THE BUDGET WAS SET UP AND WAS THE PAST, BUT IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE PURCHASED EVERY YEAR DUE TO, DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT SNOW, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO FIVE, 10 YEARS BEFORE.
AND, AND JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T GET CAUGHT IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO PURCHASE WHEN EVERYONE WANTS SALT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
DURING A BAD WINTER TIME AND PERHAPS THE QUANTITIES ARE LOWER OR THE PRICES CHANGE.
THAT HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO.
WHEN WE WERE LIMITED, REMEMBER ON HOW MUCH YOU COULD BUY BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTED IT AND WE NEEDED SOME AND WORKED OUT IN THE END, BUT IT WAS TOUGH TOUCH AND GUT FOR A WHILE THERE.
UH, WE DON'T OF COURSE KNOW, UH, OLDER, NEW BUSINESS.
CAN I REAL QUICK TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED TRAINING THAT I THINK Y'ALL MIGHT REMEMBER THAT UM, AS ONE OF MY NON-ROUTINE WORK GOALS.
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING COMMISSIONER TRAINING AND JASON AND I HAVE KIND OF PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA AND IT'S GONNA BE FULL OF LOTS OF RIVETING TOPICS AND I KNOW IT'S JUST, EVERYONE'S GONNA BE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT.
IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR HOURS PLANNED.
SO JASON AND I WERE DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT I KNOW, I'M SORRY.
UM, AND WE'LL, WE WILL FEED YOU NO MATTER WHEN EITHER ON THE FRONT OR ON THE TAIL END OR IN THE MIDDLE.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING IS WHETHER IT WOULD, YOU ALL WOULD PREFER TACKING IT ONTO THE END OF A BRIEFING OR DOING A STANDALONE.
AND I KNOW IT MIGHT BE KIND OF HARD TO FIND DATES IF WE DO A STANDALONE.
SO I THINK THAT WAS, UM, JASON'S SUGGESTION, SUGGESTION TO TACK IT ONTO A BRIEFING.
SO IF Y'ALL JUST KIND OF WANNA GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT.
I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED AN ANSWER TODAY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOPEFULLY DOING IT THIS FALL.
SO, SO THAT'S ALL FOUR HOURS IN ONE CHUNK.
I MEAN I GUESS IN THEORY WE COULD BREAK IT UP IF, IF Y'ALL PREFER THAT, BUT IT WILL LIKELY TO, THE, THE LENGTH OF IT WILL LIKELY DEPEND ON THE AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS YES.
AND THE INTERACTION WITH THE QUESTIONS.
AND IT'S NOTHING, THE CONTENT WON'T TAKE THAT LONG.
RIGHT? IT'S NOTHING Y'ALL DON'T KNOW.
OPEN MEETINGS, OPEN RECORDS, REFRESHER ON ETHICS, WHICH WE MAY END UP AT SOME POINT OBVIOUSLY BRINGING BACK UP WHAT WE, WHAT OUR ETHICS ORDINANCE LOOKS LIKE.
I DON'T INTEND ON THAT DISCUSSION NECESSARILY HAPPENING THERE.
UM, KIND OF THE WAY THE CITY MANAGER COMMISSION FORM OF GOVERNMENT WORKS AND UM, ROBERT'S RULES PROBABLY A QUICK REFRESHER ON THAT.
SO, WELL IF, IF YOU HAVE IT AFTER A INFO MEETING, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT CAN'T COME 'CAUSE OF WORK SCHEDULES.
I MEAN I THINK TRADITIONALLY WE'VE HEARD HEALTH THESE AT NIGHT.
I KNOW THAT'S LONGER BUT MEAN, I'M FINE WITH WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO.
IF Y'ALL WANNA EMAIL ME AND WE JUST, YOUR PREFERENCE, I'M NOT INCLUDED.
WHY? WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME IF YOU DON'T WANT.
SO DON'T, DON'T CONSIDER MY SCHEDULE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
WELL, AND I ACTUALLY SAID THAT TO, TO JASON.
I I UNDERSTAND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO TEACH IT YOURSELF, SO DON'T FEEL, DON'T FEEL REQUIRED TO BE THERE.
I I DON'T HAVE THAT HIGH REGARDLESS MYSELF.
I JUST KNOW I DON'T NEED A TRAINING SESSION.
YOU'RE CERTAINLY INVITED AND IT'S MORE OF A REFRESHER THAN A TRAINING.
I SHOULDN'T CALL IT A TRAINING, IT'S MORE OF A REFRESHER JUST FROM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE MOMENTS WHERE YOU SIT.
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YEAH.SO IF YOU'LL, IF YOU'LL LET, LET US KNOW WHAT WORKS FOR YOU, THEN WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE.
AND, AND ALONG THOSE LINES, UM, ARE YOU GOING
WELL NOW I'VE GOT MY FEELINGS HURT.
NOW WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF FOOD WE OFFER.
I KNOW NOW IT'S GONNA, THE FEWER PEOPLE, THE BETTER THE FOOD IS.
BUT ALONG THOSE LINES, YOU KNOW, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I GUESS COINCIDENTALLY ENOUGH, WE GOT A REALLY A THOUGHTFUL EMAIL, UH, THIS WEEK FROM, UH, TRACY STADNIK, WHO Y'ALL PROBABLY KNOW AS ONE OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND IS ALSO ON THE TREE BOARD.
AND I THINK SHE'S ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD.
SHE'S A GREAT VOLUNTEER AND YOU KNOW, AS, AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION REP ON THOSE OTHER TWO BOARDS.
BUT, UM, THE, THE PRIMARY TOPIC IN THERE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT ONBOARDING FOR THESE BOARDS AND YOU KNOW, SHE JUST MADE THE OBSERVATION TO SOMEBODY WITH FRESH EYES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY DO.
AND I THINK SHE'S CORRECT, WE COULD PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB, UM, ONBOARDING NEW MEMBERS FROM NEW MEMBERS JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.
'CAUSE I KNOW, LIKE RIGHT NOW WITH THE TREE BOARD, WE TEND TO WELCOME PEOPLE AND SAY, HEY, WELCOME TO THE TREE BOARD.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SEEMS SELF-EVIDENT IT SOME OF THE BOARDS, BUT REALLY ALL NONE OF THE TOPICS YOU JUST MENTIONED, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF THE REAL MISSION AND HOW TO GET SOMEBODY PLUGGED INTO THESE BOARDS.
IT MAY BE WORTHWHILE TO PUT TOGETHER LIKE A STANDARD ONBOARDING WELL AND A REALLY LOCKDOWN PROCESS TO MAKE SURE IF SOMEBODY'S A POINT TO A COMMISSION, MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REACHING OUT, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMISSION BUT ALSO AS, AS A BOARD CERTAINLY RIGHT AWAY.
AND THEN KIND OF GETTING THEM ON THE HISTORIC BOARD.
WE GIVE THEM A BOOK ABOUT THIS THICK
AND, UM, HOW THE BOARD WAS CREATED AND YOU KNOW, JUST, IT'S A WHOLE INTRODUCTORY BOOK TO OH, THAT'S GREAT.
AND TODD PETROSKI AND I DEFINITELY DO WITH EACH NEW PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND EACH NEW BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MEMBER, WE DO ONE-ON-ONE TRAINING, BUT CERTAINLY COULD DO A BETTER JOB.
WE TRY TO DO ANNUAL TRAINING WITH EACH OF LIKE TREE BOARDS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, OR AS REQUESTED, LIKE WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD.
I'LL BE COMING AGAIN SOON TO DO THAT.
SO, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY COULD MAKE THAT YEAH.
A MORE STANDARD FOR OUR VOLUNTEER BOARD SCHOOL.
LOT OF THE TOPICS THAT WE'LL HAVE AT YOUR TRAINING ARE APPLICABLE TO THE BOARDS AS WELL.
NOT ALL OF 'EM OF 'EM, RIGHT? SOME OF 'EM ARE NOT.
SO IT COULD BE THAT WE DO A, A SORT OF THAT, UH, THAT TRAINING THAT CROSSES OVER ALL THE BOARDS AND TRY TO BRING ALL THE NEW ONES TOGETHER.
AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME WE FOCUS IN ON THE TOPICAL TRAINING FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT BOARDS.
AND ONE THING I THINK IS SUPER IMPORTANT AS A BOARD, OUR ROLE ON BOARDS, WE ARE THE CITY COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE TO THAT BOARD.
NOW I ADVOCATE FOR THE HISTORIC BOARD, BUT WHEN WE'RE HAVING A MEETING AND PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, I HAVE TO TAKE THE CITY'S POSITION AND EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS WHAT THE RULES SAY ABOUT WHAT THE CITY CAN DO.
AND, AND WE, IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER SOMETIMES THAT YOU ARE REPRESENTING THIS BOARD TO THAT BOARD.
THAT'S REALLY GOOD MEMBER TO US.
NOW FOR THE MAIN EVENT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOU BACK INTO OLD SMYRNA ROAD AND, UH, WE WILL KIND OF COVER SOME PLA SOME GROUND THAT WE'VE ALREADY COVERED, GIVE YOU SOME UPDATED INFORMATION AND TALK ABOUT THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE BROADER, UH, PUBLIC INPUT MEETING WE HAD AT THE LIBRARY NOT LONG AGO.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEREK BASKIN, OUR CITY ENGINEER, ENGINEERING DIRECTOR TO INTRODUCE OUR FOLKS AND GET YOU STARTED.
AND, UM, HAVE WITH US, UH, HERE TODAY, DICKIE SULLIVAN AND PAT WIGGINS WITH SULLIVAN ENGINEERING.
AND, UH, ALSO SIR CATHERINE TODY, UH, OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ENGINEER.
UH, ALL OF THESE GUYS, UH, HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB HERE.
CATHERINE'S UH, BEEN DOING YEOMAN'S WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO USE THAT PHRASE.
I'M NOT SURE
MAYBE COMMISSIONER DUNN EXPLAIN TO ME EXACTLY WHAT A YEOMAN IS SOMETIME, BUT I'M SURE HE, HE'S A, HE OR SHE IS A IS A GREAT GUY.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ACROSS,
UM, SO WE ALL KNOW THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT.
WE, WE'VE BATTED THIS ONE AROUND A FEW TIMES.
OUR BRIEFING TODAY IS GOING TO BE BRIEF.
UH, WE WANT TO DISCUSS THE PUBLIC MEETING THAT WAS HELD AND THE RESULTS OF THAT.
THE PUBLIC MEETING WENT REALLY WELL.
WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS BACK FROM CITIZENS ON THAT.
AND, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA PRESENT TO YOU.
THE, THE, UH, PURPOSE OF OUR BRIEFING TODAY IS SIMPLY THIS.
WE, AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE COMMISSION'S CLEAR CONSENSUS ON THE ALTERNATE THAT THEY HAVE
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DETERMINED THAT WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH.WAIT OUR NEXT MEETING MA'AM? I'M SORRY.
I'M GONNA GO BACK TO SOME THAT'S THE POINT I WANTED YOU BROUGHT UP, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A VERY GOOD POINT.
WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING HAVING THIS MEETING OR I WAS NOT AWARE THAT TODAY WAS THE DAY WE WERE GONNA REACH A CONSENSUS.
I, JANET MENTIONED THAT YOU THOUGHT IT WAS AFTER WE GOT PUBLIC INPUT.
ALRIGHT, SO MY CONCERN ERIC, WAS JUST THAT IF WE AS A BOARD ALREADY HAVE ALTERNATE F AS OUR OUR PLAN, BUT YET WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS AFFECTED BY THE ROAD.
DOES THAT LIKE, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT, THAT YOU WOULDN'T REACH CONSENSUS TILL AFTER THERE WAS A KIND OF A FINAL PRESENTATION TO THE CITIZENS.
SO I'LL BE GLAD TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO LET ME ALLOW ME TO SPEAK FRANKLY ABOUT THAT.
I'M JUST CONFUSED BY, AND AND I WILL SAY, I MEAN, IT, IT WAS CLEAR TO ME THAT WE WERE GETTING PUBLIC INPUT, WHICH WE JUST DID AT THE LIBRARY.
AND THAT WAS THE PUBLIC INPUT IN TERMS OF THE ALTERNATIVES AND THAT THIS HAS BEEN ON THE CALENDAR FOR A WHILE.
I'VE HAD THIS IN AT LEAST TWO OR THREE NEWSLETTERS IN TERMS OF US GATHERING AND THEN HAVING A FOLLOW UP MEETING JUST WITH RESIDENTS ABOUT THE ALTERNATE THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS AROUND.
THAT, THAT'S THE POINT I MISSED TO GET INPUT ON THE DETAILS OKAY.
OF THAT TO SEE IF GIVEN THIS, GIVEN THIS ROUTE, ARE THERE TWEAKS TO THAT ALTERNATIVE.
WITHIN THAT ALTERNATIVE THAT CAN MAKE SENSE.
AND, AND I DON'T OBJECT TO THAT.
IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE GENERAL YEAH.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE PLAN TO TAKE A FINAL ALTERNATIVE TO THAT RESIDENT MEETING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OSR RESIDENTS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON.
THE MAYOR EXPLAINED WHAT MOST OF EVERYTHING I WAS GONNA SAY BETTER THAN I COULD DO THAT.
UH, BUT, UH, IF SOME OF YOU WEREN'T A PART OF THIS, AND I WOULDN'T EXPECT THIS TO HAPPEN, BUT IN THE PRIOR PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE HAD, BEFORE WE HAD THIS LAST ROUND, THERE WAS CONCERN THAT WE STAFF WERE PRESENTING AN ALTERNATE TO THE PUBLIC THAT HAD NOT BEEN THAT YEAH.
CONSENTED BY THE BOARD AS THE CHOSEN ALTERNATE, EVEN THOUGH WE, WE, WE DID HAVE WHAT WE THOUGHT TO BE CLEAR CONSENSUS AT THAT TIME.
IT WAS DETERMINED LATER THAT APPARENTLY WE DID NOT.
SO THIS TIME WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THAT CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD AS WHICH ALTERNATE WE'RE PRESENTING.
SO JUST AS THE MAYOR SAID, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
AGAIN, I CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT ANY BETTER.
NOW, YOUR DECISION ON THE FINAL DETERMINATION ON WHICH ALTERNATE IS CHOSEN WILL BE AFTER THIS MEETING WHEN WE BRING TO YOU A CONTRACT FOR THE DESIGN.
THE CONTRACT FOR THE DESIGN, THAT ALTERNATE WILL BE SELECTED AND THAT'S WHAT THAT DESIGN AND THAT CONTRACT WILL BE BASED ON.
SO THAT'LL BE YOUR VOTE, YOUR FINAL VOTE.
YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE'RE, LOOK, WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR TODAY IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL YOUR PREFERRED OPTION.
SO WE COULD COMMUNICATE YOUR PREFERRED.
AND I THINK WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD COMFORT, UH, IN DOING THAT BECAUSE WE HAD REALLY GREAT REPRESENTATION OF THAT AREA AS WELL AS OTHERS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN THE PROJECT AT THAT BROADER PUBLIC MEETING.
SO I, SO IF YOU HAVE THAT CONSENSUS TODAY OF THAT X IS, AND I, I THINK IT'LL BE PRETTY EASY FOR YOU WHEN YOU GET INTO THE INFORMATION, BUT THAT X UH, OPTION OR ALTERNATE IS THE PREFERRED, THEN THEY CAN COMMUNICATE THAT AGAIN UNTIL WE'RE TOTALLY FINISHED WITH ALL OF IT AND NOTHING'S IN STONE, BUT IT AT LEAST ALLOWS US TO COMMUNICATE THAT PREFERRED OPTION.
I, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO RECHECK CONSENSUS BEFORE THE NCE MEETING.
THAT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR ON.
THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN PLANNED AND WE CONTINUE WITH THAT.
OKAY, SO AT THIS TIME I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DICK DICKY.
UM, IT'S GONNA MAKE OUR PRESENTATION ON THE ALTERNATE AND THE FEEDBACK, HERE'S A CLICKER FOR YOU.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO GO OVER THE RESULTS OF THE PUBLIC MEETING AND LET'S JUMP TO TO 10.
SO TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN, UM, 86% OF THE PEOPLE AT THE MEETING ARE THAT PUT IN COMMENTS AFTER THE MEETING WANTED ALTERNATE A MM-HMM
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON OLD SMYRNA ROAD, IT WAS 82% OF THEM.
AND THEN THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WAS 90%.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, SO OTHERS IS 86 AND THEN PEOPLE THAT COMMUTE WERE 78.
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SO THE CONSENSUS WAS PRETTY CLEAR FOR A MM-HMMUH, WE CAN GO OVER ALL OF THEM.
UH, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS START OUT TO FAMILIARIZE REFAMILIARIZE WITH A, AND THEN GO OVER THE CONCERNS TODAY.
SO HERE WE HAVE A, UM, IT IS TWO NEW LANES OVER HERE.
WE HAVE MOST OF THE RIGHT OF WAY ALREADY.
THE CITY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF ACQUIRING RIGHT.
WHERE HIS SUBDIVISIONS COME IN.
AND THEN OVER HERE ON THE LEFT IS THE O IS THE EXISTING ROAD, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TURN THAT INTO THE PEDESTRIAN TRAIL.
SO IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER ARTERIAL, UM, THE TRAIL JUST TO BE A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT WIDER.
UM, SO LET'S JUMP OVER TO THE CONCERNS B.
SO THIS WAS THE CONCERNS OF A, I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THOSE TODAY AND, UH, GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT WITH, HEY.
SO, UM, INCREASE OF, OF, OF CUT THROUGH SPEED, UH, TRAFFIC AND SPEEDING.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME WITH ANY OF THE ALTERNATES.
UM, THE ROAD WILL BE DESIGNED AT 35 MILES AN HOUR.
THAT MEANS IT'S PERFECTLY SAFE TO DRIVE IT AT 35 MILES AN HOUR.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE POST IT AT 35 MILES AN HOUR.
WE CAN POST IT AT ANY SPEED YOU WANT TO.
AND SO I THINK BEFORE THE FIRST TIME AROUND A IS THE ONE THAT, UM, THE STAFF AND, AND SEI RECOMMENDED TO THE COMMISSION BEFORE.
SO WE FEEL THAT IT'S, IT IS A GOOD ONE.
AND UH, AGAIN, WE, WE, IN THAT FIRST TIME WE, WE PROPOSED A LOWER SPEED LIMIT.
BUT IT, IT, AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD, THIS COMMISSION CAN SET.
SO THE DESIGN SPEED WOULD BE 35, WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF THE OTHER ARTERIALS IN THE CITY.
UH, TRAFFIC CALMING THE ROUNDABOUT IS A REALLY GOOD TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE.
AND THEN WE WILL LOOK AT THE NEED FOR OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES.
NOW THIS WILL BE AS SAFE AS ANY OTHER ARTERIAL IN THE CITY.
SO EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE MAY BE DRIVING FASTER, UH, BECAUSE OF THE ROADS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, IT'S SAFE, IT'S SAFE TO DO THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK, WELL, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE DRIVING FASTER THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS DOWN THE PROCESS THAT, THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE INVOLVED IN ON HOW WE ADDRESS THAT.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WITH ANY OF THE ALTERNATES, UH, WIDESPREAD CONCERN ABOUT REMOVING TREES AND HISTORIC LAWS.
YOU WANNA JUMP TO THAT OTHER SLIDE? I THINK IT'S EIGHT.
SO WE WERE REALLY SURPRISED WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT THAT WE ARE NOT IMPACTING ANY WITH THIS ALTERNATE.
WE'RE NOT IMPACTING ANY OF THE HISTORIC LAW.
UM, WE'RE CUTTING DOWN VERY FEW TREES.
AND IF YOU LOOK DOWN HERE, THIS IS THE DIFFERENT CUT THROUGHS.
UM, WE'VE GOT FIVE TREES THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE REMOVING, IS THAT RIGHT PAT? THAT'S CORRECT.
JUST FIVE THREE OF 'EM ARE IN POOR HEALTH.
SO THE BIGGEST ONE IS THE ASH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE BOAR, THERE'S A ASH BOARD THAT'S WIPING OUT THE ASHES AND IT'S ALREADY IN POOR HEALTH.
YOU GOTTA HACK TWO HACK BERRIES THAT ARE IN BAD HEALTH.
YOU DO HAVE A HEALTHY WALNUT TREE, ONE WALNUT TREE, AND THEN THERE'S AN 18 INCH CEDAR THAT'S, UH, THAT'S DOWN, UH, UH, CLOSE TO UH, UH, HARLAN.
SO THAT'S IT FOR THE TREE REMOVAL.
SO AGAIN, THE CONCERN, IF YOU GO BACK TO, IS THERE ANY OTHER POINT YOU WANNA MAKE ABOUT THIS? IS THAT GOOD? UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE CONCERNS.
SO I GUESS THE WIDESPREAD CONCERN IS REALLY NOT, AND YOU KNOW, WITH THIS PROJECT WE'LL BE WE, WE SHOULD PLANT SOME MORE TREES ANYWAY.
I MEAN THIS CAN BE A MAGNIFICENT AREA.
WE WERE SPEAKING EARLIER THAT IF YOU GO DOWN THE, IF YOU DRIVE THE THE ROAD, YOU CAN'T, YOU, IT'S SO DANGEROUS THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY LOOK AND SEE WHAT, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY 60 MAYBE UP TO 70% OF THE ROAD THAT'S REALLY NICE.
AND THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT'S NOT NICE.
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AND THOSE AREAS WE CAN REALLY BRING THOSE UP, UH, WITHOUT A LOT OF, WITHOUT A LOT OF EXTRA MONEY.UH, SEE THE EMPHASIS ON PROTECTING THE CHARACTER, ALTERNATE A DOES THE BEST JOB OF THAT.
I THINK POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUES WITH THE DRIVEWAY CROSSINGS.
SO, AND, AND ON ALL THE NEW ARTERIALS THAT WE'VE BUILT THROUGH THE CITY OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, THEY HAVE PEDESTRIAN TRAILS, THE DRIVEWAYS CROSS, THOSE PEDESTRIAN TRAILS EVERY ARTERIAL THAT WE HAVE.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS A CONCERN THAT IT'S AT EVERY ARTERIAL THAT WE DO IN THE CITY.
UM, WE DO HAVE WAYS TO ACTUALLY MAKE 'EM SAFE WHERE THEY'RE CROSSING THE PEDESTRIAN TRAIL, UM, AND ACTUALLY ENHANCE IT FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS FOR THE, FOR THE DRIVEWAYS THAT CROSSING THE ROADS THAT CROSS THAT.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE FIRST MEETING, WE KIND OF HAD SOME CONCEPTS ON HOW TO DO THAT.
UH, AND WE'LL PROBABLY PRESENT THOSE AT THE PUBLIC MEETING AT THIS NEXT MEETING.
UM, SEPARATION BETWEEN PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS, AND DRIVEWAYS.
AGAIN, THAT'S KINDA LIKE THE FIRST ONE.
UH, THIS PROJECT DOES SEPARATE, HAS THE MOST SEPARATION BETWEEN THE CYCLIST.
AND THE MAIN ROAD, THE DRIVEWAYS CROSS OVER LIKE ANY OTHER ARTERIAL, UH, DIMINISH THE CHARACTERS OF, OF THE ROADWAY DIMINISHING THE CHARACTER.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SPECIAL DESIGN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS ROUTE OF ROAD.
YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR ARTERIALS ARE THREE LANES, CURBING GUTTER, YOU KNOW, A SIDEWALK AND VERY LOOK VERY URBAN SAFE.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING SHOULDERS, WE'RE PROPOSING A CONCRETE RIBBON CURB THAT'S GOING TO, AND SO YOU'LL HAVE THE TWO LANES AND YOU'LL HAVE A CONCRETE RIBBON CURVE.
THEN YOU'LL HAVE ASPHALT SHOULDERS, REALLY FLAT SLOPES DOWN.
YOU KNOW, THEY, SO THEY WON'T BE DEEP DITCHES.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLOPES ARE REALLY GOOD PLACES TO PUT TREES.
I'VE DONE THIS A LOT IN THE PAST 'CAUSE IT COLLECTS THE WATER NATURALLY AND THE TREES THRIVE IN THOSE AREAS AND THEY'RE FAR AWAY FROM THE ROAD.
SO I THINK WE'VE ADDRESSED WITH AL ALTER TODAY, WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT CHARACTER WITH THE ROAD.
AND OF COURSE THE OLD ROAD IS GONNA BE THE PEDESTRIAN TRAIL.
AND IT, IT'S, IT, IT'LL BE WONDERFUL AS A PEDESTRIAN TRAIL.
SO DICKIE, THIS IS KIND OF A, A, A DETAIL, BUT I KNOW WHEN JASON AND I WERE DOWN AT THE GREATER NASHVILLE REGIONAL COUNCIL, THEY'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT REPAIRING BUFFERS TO HELP IMPROVE WATER QUALITY.
YOU KNOW, THE STORM WATER WITH THAT KIND OF DESIGN.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THE TREES DOWN THERE, WHICH WE'RE REALLY HAPPY, YOU KNOW, IN THERE WHERE THE WATER COLLECTS.
DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE, IS THAT GONNA BE GRASS DOWN AROUND THOSE, IN THOSE, IN THOSE WATERWAYS? OR DO YOU HAVE SOME OTHER KIND OF PLANT? IT'S GONNA BE REALLY FLAT AND IT'LL BE GRASS AND EASILY MOWED.
SO, SO WE'LL BE GRASS DOWN, BUT NOT, NOT SOME SORT OF OTHER PLANT LIFE TO HOLD IT AND TO ABSORB WATER? NO.
NO, NOT UNLESS WE HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA IN DESIGN THAT WE WANT TO DO.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT ARE WET IN THAT AREA.
UM, WE HAVE A BIG DETENTION POND THAT DRAINS WATER DOWN INTO THIS AREA.
SO THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME DRAINAGE AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF IT MAY GIVE US A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING IN THERE FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
UH, BUT WE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOT IN THERE.
THIS, THAT'S THE SECTION HERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW SOFT THAT SECTION IS COMPARED TO A, OUR TYPICAL ARTERIAL WITH CURBING GUTTER.
IT LOOKS VERY, I MEAN, I'M, I'M RIGHT IN SEEING THAT BEING VERY PARK-LIKE.
SO IT'D BE LIKE A GOOD, YOU KNOW, UH, IT, IT'LL BLEND IN WITH THE PARK.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S CAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE THE AREA WILL BE BEAUTIFUL.
SO ALONG NELSON'S COMMENTS ARE THE, THE TWO AREAS I THINK WHERE WE COULD MOST TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PUTTING LIKE A, A RIPARIAN BUFFER OR A RING GARDEN OR WHATEVER, I THINK ARE GONNA DEPEND ON EXACTLY WHERE THE ROAD BEGINS AND ENDS.
BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE TWO WET AREAS.
AND AGAIN, IF, IF WE GO, ALL THE ALTERNATES HAVE TIE IN, WE NEED TO TERMINATE THE PROJECT SOMEWHERE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE END.
SO THAT THE TERMINUS WILL, WILL,
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WE'LL STILL WORK WITH THAT AND HOW, HOW THAT BEST FITS FOR EVERYTHING.'CAUSE WE ARE, WE'RE FROM THE FIRST MEETING, UM, THE, THE WILLIAMS THERE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE CUTTING INTO THEIR YARD.
SO WE ACTUALLY PULLED, UM, PULLED THE ROAD BACK OVER ONCE WE GET PAST THIS POINT.
BUT WHEN WE DO THAT, WE'RE CLIPPING THE HARLOW WALL.
SO WE'RE TAKING OUT SOME OF THAT WALL NOW WE CAN TAKE IT OUT AND PUT IT UP SOMEWHERE ELSE SO WE'RE NOT LOSING THE WALL.
BUT, UH, SO THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME DETAILS.
UM, LIKE THE MAYOR WAS SAYING AT THE MEETING, IF, IF WE CHOOSE AN ALTERNATE AND I MEAN 86% OF THE PEOPLE WANTED A, THEN WE CAN FOCUS AT THE MEETING ON A, AND THEN WORK OUT ANY CONCERNS THEY HAVE WITH A 'CAUSE.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH OVERWHELMING.
MAJORITY WANTS A AND THAT WAS ALSO STAFF RECOMMENDATION ORIGINALLY.
ONCE WE GET UNDER CONTRACT FOR DESIGN, FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR STORM DRAINAGE, WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, THAT'LL THEN DICTATE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE CONCEPT, IF THERE ARE ANY.
'CAUSE YOU, YOU GOTTA GET FURTHER INTO DESIGN TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE WATER AND WHERE YOU'RE DOING WITH IT.
CALL ME, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
I THINK IT COULD BE AN AWARD-WINNING DESIGN.
DO WE KNOW THAT PHASE TWO IS GOING TO WORK WITH THIS DESIGN? SO THE, THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT THAT THE CITY GAVE ME WAS TO STUDY THE WHOLE ROAD TO THE CITY LIMITS.
AND THEN ACTUALLY DEREK, SOMEBODY'S DEVELOPING A PLAN, UH, UP THE ROAD AT THE END UP BY THE SUBSTATION.
AND SINCE WE ALREADY DONE THAT, ALREADY HAD DONE THAT WORK, DEREK WAS SAYING, HOW DOES THIS FIT? AND IT ACTUALLY FITS WELL WITH WHAT WE PLAN.
SO WE'RE NOT BY DOING THAT PLANNING, IT HELPS WHEN THESE, THESE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN AND YOU'RE NOT GUESSING, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE ROUTE.
PARDON ME? WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE ROUTE THAT'S BEEN PRELIMINARILY DESIGNED TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY LAND AND THE TREES AND THE ROCKS AS WE GO FORWARD.
I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SIGNED UP FOR THAT YET, BUT I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT WHEN THAT DOES EVENTUALLY HAPPEN, THAT THE SAME PRINCIPLES ARE APPLIED TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, LET'S JUST FINISH IT AND GET ON.
IF I COULD, IF I COULD ADDRESS THAT, IF YOU PLEASE.
SO THE SECTION, THE SEGMENT TO THE EAST IS ALREADY, UH, WIDER THAN THE SEC SEGMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON HERE.
AND THERE'S NOT AS MUCH IMPACT TO THE TREES AND THERE'S NO, NOT REALLY ANY WALLS DOWN THROUGH THERE MAYBE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED COMMISSIONER DUNN.
BUT THAT NEXT SEGMENT HAS BEEN PRELIMINARILY DESIGNED TO JUST BE WIDENED.
WE'RE NOT GONNA MOVE THE ROAD EITHER SIDE OR EXISTING.
THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THROUGH THERE.
KATHERINE HAD A COMMENT IF YOU'LL SIR KATHERINE HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THE TREES THAT THIS POSE, THIS SARRE DICKY, I JUST POINTED THAT DIRECTLY AT YOUR EYES.
SO THIS CENTER AREA IS OBVIOUSLY AN NES EASEMENT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TROUBLE AS FAR AS NEW PLANTINGS, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT LARGE TREES IN THAT AREA.
TYPICALLY THE CITY HAS NOT FUNDED LANDSCAPING.
NONE OF OUR OTHER ROAD PROJECTS INCLUDED LANDSCAPING.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WOULD HAVE TO COMMUNICATE, I GUESS AT THIS POINT, SO THAT WHEN WE DO OUR DESIGN, THAT THAT'S INCLUDED.
'CAUSE THAT IS, THAT CAN BE COSTLY.
WE ALSO CAN ONLY PLANT IN RIGHT AWAY.
WE ARE LUCKY ON THIS SIDE BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT A HUNDRED FOOT OF RIGHT AWAY THAT WAS DEDICATED BY A MAJORITY OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS.
THAT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE GO INTO CONTRACT WITH DICKEY.
NICKY, I, I THINK I TOLD YOU THIS AT THE MEETING WE HAD.
I ENDED UP TALKING TO MR. WILLIAMS AND I THOUGHT, OH BOY, HERE WE GO.
BECAUSE HE, HE HAD THAT HIGHLIGHTED, BUT WHEN HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU HAD MOVED THE ROAD AND THAT FREED UP HIM KEEPING THE TREES AND HE WAS SO FOR THIS AND SO FOR THIS ALTERNATIVE, AND IT'S, I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD WHEN YOU GOT SOMEBODY THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU WEREN'T WORKING WITH ME ON ONE SENSE, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU WORKED WITH ME.
AND THIS TURNS OUT REALLY WELL.
AND TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT JUST FLIPPED LIKE THAT AND IS NOW VERY SUPPORTIVE, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT.
DEREK WAS SAYING THAT IF IF WE CAN GET A DECISION THAT WE WANT A, THEN WE CAN FOCUS.
WHEN IT, WHEN YOU HAVE A B OR C, IT'S HARD TO WORK ON DETAILS.
SO IF YOU, AND, AND THAT'S, I MEAN, WE LISTENED, WE, WE GOT THE COMMENTS BACK AND WE WORKED AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO THE POINT THAT SOME PEOPLE MADE COMMENTS THAT, HEY, THIS ISN'T SAFE.
WELL IT IS SAFE, IT'S JUST A DIP.
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OF THE DIP OUT AND THEN STRAIGHTEN THE CURVE A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WILL BE 35 MILE AN HOUR SAFE.SO YOU'RE GONNA COME THE WILLIAMS HOUSE, THAT'S THE WHITE ONE NEXT TO THE HISTORIC FROST PROPERTY, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, IT IS AT, IT IS AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE, THE HAM MALL.
AND SO YOU'RE GONNA COME OVER BEFORE OR RIGHT AFTER, RIGHT AFTER THE BIG DIP THERE.
SO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN THAT WE HAD WASN'T A FINAL.
IT WAS SOMETHING TO TAKE TO THE AND AND WE GOT THAT COMMENT AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO GOOD TO WORK THAT OVER AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY TWO PROPERTIES IMPACTED.
THEM AND THEN WHAT'S THE NAME? FOX? LITTLE LID.
AND WE TALKED WITH THEM AT THE FIRST MEETING AND THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
THAT'S ABOUT AN ACRE OF ACQUISITION.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST ACQUISITION THAT HAVE THE WILLIAMS. WE'RE DOWN TO 10TH OF AN ACRE NOW.
SO WE'RE WAY DOWN THERE FROM BEFORE.
UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING DOWN IN THIS AREA HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE HOW THE RIGHT OF WAY SHOWS IT KIND OF COMING ACROSS.
SO WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ACTUALLY PULLING IT BACK AND THAT'S A TRAFFIC COPY.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU ADD A CURVE TO A ROAD, PEOPLE WILL SLOW DOWN AND, UH, SO IT JUST NEEDS TO BE DONE CORRECTLY.
AND, AND ALSO JUST, JUST TO NOTE THAT BY PULLING OFF THE WILLIAMS PROPERTY, UM, WE ARE TAKING SOME OF THAT HARLAN WALL, BUT WE CONSIDER THAT'S A MODERN WALL THAT'S ONLY ABOUT 30 OR 40 YEARS OLD.
UH, THAT'S NOT THE HISTORIC WALLS THAT WE EVERYBODY SO PROTECTIVE OF.
THAT'S MORE UP ON THE WEST SIDE.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND WHAT I ACTUALLY HAVE IN THE BUDGET, I HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR REDOING SOME OF THE WALLS.
AND MAYBE SO FROM A, AGAIN, WE'LL GET INTO THE DESIGN OF IT, BUT THERE'S SECTIONS WHERE THERE'S NO WALL AT ALL, ESPECIALLY ON THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO AND DO SMALL SECTIONS, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED FEET HERE AND A HUNDRED FEET THERE AND DO SOME LANDSCAPING TO REALLY MAKE IT TIE IN THE WHOLE, EVERYTHING TIE IN TOGETHER.
I THINK I'VE GOT, I HAVE TO CHECK, I THINK I'VE GOT ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET TO, UH, TO DO THAT.
SO THERE'S MONEY IN THAT, WHAT WAS IT, ALMOST $9 MILLION.
SO THERE'S A BIG CHUNK OF THAT'S IN THERE THAT COULD BE TAKEN OUT.
BUT I THINK IN THIS PROJECT, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO HAVE IN THERE.
BUT IT'S THINGS THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT.
WELL, THIS IS A, THE FIRST IMPRESSION, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT OLD SMYRNA ROAD AS BEING KIND OF A SIGNATURE ROAD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THERE AS A CONCERN ABOUT TOUCHING IT AND LOSING THE SIGNATURE ROAD AND KIND OF WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE OF A SIGNATURE ROAD THAT, YOU KNOW, DECADES DOWN THE ROAD PEOPLE ARE REALLY PROUD OF IF WE DO THIS WELL AND THEY GET THOSE THINGS IN PLACE, BUT A SIGNATURE ROAD THAT ACTUALLY A LOT MORE PEOPLE ENJOY AND APPRECIATE AND SEE BECAUSE IT'S SAFE.
AND WITH THE PARK RIGHT THERE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO A TRAIL, YOU CAN WALK THE TRAILS IN THE PARK OR YOU CAN COME DOWN AND WALK DOWN HERE AND IT'S JUST, IT'D JUST BE REALLY, IT'D BE REALLY, REALLY NICE.
RIGHT NOW, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK ABOUT GRANNY WHITE PARK OR KRAKEN PARK OR, YOU KNOW, MORE RECENTLY SMITH PARK IS KIND OF HOW THEY ENVISION BRENTWOOD.
THIS MAY REPLACE ALL THAT IS HOW THEY ENVISION BRENTWOOD.
I THINK THIS, AND, AND I TOLD DEREK WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS THING, THAT, HOW IT TURNED OUT, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY AN AWARD WINNING PROJECT.
AND WE'RE GOING IN THIS TO PRESENT IT UP WITH FORCE BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY AWARD FOR ME.
SO, UM, DID WE GET THROUGH THE CONCERNS? I THINK WE DID.
UM, RIGHT, RIGHT THERE ON THAT PAGE UNDER SAFETY, YOU MENTIONED WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN VEHICLE PA UH, PASS INTERSECT.
YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT ENHANCING THAT PART.
SO CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY ENHANCEMENT? YEAH.
SO, UM, THERE'S A, THERE THE ROAD IS ABOUT 16 FOOT WIDE.
SO WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS COME ACROSS, WE REALLY WANTED TO NARROW THE PEDESTRIAN PATH DOWN TO MAYBE 10 FEET.
SO YOU, YOU CAN DO THAT IF YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, IT'S HARD.
WE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID BEFORE.
BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE TAKING, SO HERE'S THE WHOLE ROAD.
SO YOU TAKE, AND YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY CROSSING HERE.
SO YOU TAKE THIS AND YOU BEND IT
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LIKE THIS AND YOU CAN PUT, SO YOU DON'T WANT BALLARDS, BALLARD, BALLARDS NO BALLARDS BECAUSE THERE'S LAWSUITS EVERYWHERE FOR PEOPLE HITTING THOSE ON BICYCLES.SO YOU DO THAT AND YOU MAYBE DO SOME LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, SOME LIKE BOXWOODS OR, OR SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY HARDY IN THERE.
AND, UH, YOU KEEP 'EM LOW AND THEN IT, IT IT, ONE, IT IDENTIFIES TO THE PEOPLE ON, ON THE PEDESTRIAN TRAIL, HEY, YOU'RE APPROACHING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU ALSO CAN ADDRESS THE DRIVE.
YOU REALLY, THE ROADS ARE MORE OF A CONCERN THAN THE DRIVEWAYS, YOU KNOW, MEAN YOU COULD HAVE A DELIVERY VEHICLE THAT DOESN'T KNOW THE ROAD.
BUT I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU DID, HOW MANY TIMES YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT CONFLICT WITH THE DRIVEWAYS, IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY, PRETTY FEW.
UH, BUT YOU JUST, YOU WANT TO KIND OF MAKE IT DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF IT.
UH, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT.
AND WE'LL PROBABLY BRING OPTIONS HERE.
AND WE MAY DO, THEY MAY BE DIFFERENT.
THEY MAY ALL MAY NOT BE THE SAME.
SO THAT NARROWING IS A PEDESTRIAN AWARENESS DESIGN.
IT ALL, IT'LL MAKE, IT'LL MAKE 'EM AWARE THAT, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING'S GOING ON HERE.
HOW MANY DRIVEWAYS ARE THERE? SEVEN.
NOW IF, IF YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING LIKE BOX WOODS, THEY GROW REAL FAST.
AND THE CITY WOULD BE MAINTAINING THESE YEAH.
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE OVER 'EM ONCE THEY GET VERY TALL.
I'VE GOT SOME THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP CUT ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU COME DOWN IN THE SPRING AND YOU JUST CUT 'EM OFF AND THAT WILL STIMULATE THE GROWTH.
BUT YOU, SO MAYBE THEY'LL GROW, YOU KNOW, SIX INCHES TO A FOOT A YEAR.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE DON'T HAVE, SO WE TURNED IN A PROPOSAL FOR THIS 18 MONTHS AGO AND WE'LL UPDATE IT.
WE DON'T HAVE LANDSCAPING IN THERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT BACK AND WE'LL PROPOSE THAT AND YOU GUYS CAN CUT IT OUT.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE SHORT COMES THAT BOXWOOD.
SO THAT, THAT WORKS REAL WELL OUT THERE IF WE KEEP 'EM CUT.
BUT ON BEHALF OF SHORT DRIVERS THAT LIVE ON OLD SMYRNA ROAD, WE NOT HAVE ANYTHING REALLY OVER BECAUSE THE SIGHTLINES ARE ALREADY BAD ENOUGH.
THEY PULLING OUTTA MY DRIVEWAY LOOKING HAVE A REALLY HARD RIGHT.
THEY MAKE DIFFERENT ASKING FOR A FRIEND.
YOU, I'M NOT EVEN EMBARRASSED.
I'LL ASK THEM MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBOR BECAUSE SHE'S AS SHORT AS I AM.
THEY HAVE LIKE MINIATURE BOXWOOD TOO.
PARDON ME? THEY HAVE LIKE MINIATURE BOX WOODS DWARFS.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT THE YEAH, I WANNA BRING ON THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HELPING US WITH THE MEETING.
VERY GOOD LANDSCAPE COMPANY AND WE'LL GET SOME, SOME OPINIONS FROM THEM.
THIS IS GOOD TO HEAR THESE THINGS NOW.
IT HELPS YOU FIGURE WELL A PICTURE IN YOUR MIND OF HOW IT MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK.
I THINK YOU ASKED AND I THINK WE PROBABLY OWE YOU AN ANSWER.
PERSONALLY I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE LANDSCAPING IN.
I THINK WE NEED THAT AGAIN, THE AWARD-WINNING AND WHAT WE I AGREE.
IT'S JUST THE HEIGHT THAT I PROMISED.
IF I'M GOING ON MY DRIVEWAY, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE NO, WE, I, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, THE PEOPLE COMING OUT THE DRIVEWAY, WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING BLOCKING THEIR VIEWS.
YOU WOULDN'T CREATE A SITE TRIANGLE ISSUE.
BUT I, I ALSO THINK LIKE SARAH CATHERINE'S WITH THE TREES ON THE OTHER SIDE, I THINK THAT, THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT TOO.
I THINK THAT IT JUST GIVES A FINISHED AND OVERALL LOOK AND IF THE, IT'S DESIGNED TO HAVE THAT, THE WATER AND SO IF COMPLETES IT.
UM, HAVE ANY OF YOU BEEN DOWN TO MILKYWAY FARMS? YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS IN PULASKI? YOU GO INTO THAT ENTRANCE? WELL, I DID THAT MM-HMM
AND IF YOU NOTICE IT'S GOT THE RIBBON CURVE AND IT'S GOT THE FLAT DITCH AND THE TREES ARE ON THE, IN, THEY PUT THE TREES IN THE BOTTOM OF THE DITCH.
'CAUSE IT'S A REAL FLAT SWELL AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM LIVES BECAUSE ALL THE WATER OFF THE ROAD.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET INTO BIO RETENTION AND ALL THAT STUFF AND IT GETS A LOT OF MONEY.
THERE'S A LOT OF NATURAL WAYS THAT THEY DON'T LET YOU DO THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE REGULATED PEOPLE DON'T LET YOU DO 'EM, BUT THEY WORK VERY WELL.
SO, UH, ANYWAY, SO, UM, WE FINISHED THE CONCERNS.
UM, SO WE'RE DOWN TO THE SCOPE, HIGH COST, ALL THOSE ARE THE SAME BENEFIT.
THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, WELL THIS IS MORE THAN JUST THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON, UM, CONSTRUCTION IMPACT.
UM, SO DISRUPTING THE YARDS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WILLIAMS WILL BE IN THEIR YARD AND THEN, UM, THE LIDS WILL BE BUYING THAT PROPERTY.
SO IT REALLY WON'T BE THEIR YARD,
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BUT THAT WE WILL BE IMPACTING THAT.THE REST OF IT, I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY, I THINK CHRIS NEEDS TO DO SOME, SOME WATER UPGRADES AND I KNOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE THE PUMP STATION AROUND.
SO THERE'LL BE SOME OF THAT STUFF THAT WILL, THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT'S REALLY NOT ROAD RELATED.
UH, AND I, WE DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF THAT YET, BUT FROM THE ROAD STANDPOINT, WE SHOULDN'T BE IN ANYBODY'S YARDS.
UH, UM, AND I GUESS THIS LAST ONE IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CURVE AND THE TOPOGRAPHY AT THE WILLIAMS. SO THAT CURVE, YOU WANNA GO BACK TO THE OVERALL ALIGNMENT SARAH, CATHERINE? YEAH, LET'S GO GO TO THE LOCK.
SO AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW, THERE'S A BIG VERTICAL DIP RIGHT HERE MM-HMM
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE CURVE WITH THE DIP THAT, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF A COMPOUNDING ISSUE IN ROW DESIGN.
IT'S LIKE TOPPING THE HILL IN A CURVE THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU SOMETIMES YOU, YOU CAN'T HELP THAT, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL BE FLAT.
SO FROM A TOPOGRAPHY STANDPOINT, WE'LL FIX A TOPOGRAPHY FROM A CURVE STANDPOINT, IT'LL BE SAFE.
I MEAN, UM, THERE'S THERE'S NO WAY AROUND CURVES AND ROADS.
YOU HAVE TO DO 'EM, YOU JUST, THERE'S THERE'S WAYS, THERE'S GUIDELINES ON HOW TO DO 'EM SAVED.
SO THAT'LL STAY AT 35 MILES AN HOUR.
ALL, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WILL BE 35 MILES AN HOUR AT LEAST LIKE THIS STRAIGHTAWAY.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I WISH WE HAD MORE BEDER IN THAT, BUT WE, BUT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT DOING AT SOME, SOME DRIVEWAYS, UM, SOME SOMETHING LIKE A MINI ROUNDABOUT.
UM, SO WE COULD INTRODUCE A FEW OF THOSE AT MAYBE AT THE ROADS AND MAYBE AT, YOU KNOW, UH, AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF A BALANCE OF, FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT, FROM A TRAFFIC FLOW STANDPOINT.
BUT THERE'S SOME OPTIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO EVALUATE DURING DESIGN ON, ON WHAT'S BEST AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE WHENEVER WE WANT TO BRING, IF YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION AND WE CAN BRING YOU STUFF AT ANY TIME AT ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.
WELL, IT DOES SEEM LIKE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE HARLAN SUBDIVISION, THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE A ROUNDABOUT RIGHT THERE JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE TRAFFIC FROM THEM GETTING IN AND OUT AND ALSO RIGHT.
FOR THE REASONS YOU JUST MENTIONED.
AND, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WE WOULD NEED, SO IF YOU DO A ROUNDABOUT AT STREETS LIKE THIS ROUNDABOUT UP HERE, THAT'S, THOSE ARE, THEY'RE REALLY EXPENSIVE.
DON'T, DON'T LET AT THE CAR DEALER SIGN THE ROAD, BUT UNLESS WE NEED IT, WE PROBABLY WON'T DO ONE THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, SEE THIS TRAFFIC UP HERE IS A LOT MORE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PARK COMING IN, THERE'S A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THERE THAN WE WOULD HAVE HERE.
FAIR DERRICK? I WOULD SAY YEAH, JUST ONE MORE THING ON WHERE YOUR CURVE IS.
THERE IS A RAIN GARDEN THERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO, YOU KNOW, AND IT FLOODS A LOT LESS THERE NOW SINCE, BUT, BUT THE HOMEOWNERS PUT THAT IN YEAH.
AND SO, I MEAN THAT'S JUST SOMETHING CONSIDERING WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE, WE PROBABLY WON'T GET, SO TYPICALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN DOING WORK FOR THE CITY FOR 35 YEARS, UM, WE TYPICALLY, LIKE IF, IF THERE'S A FENCE, WE TYPICALLY DON'T REPAIR THAT FENCE BECAUSE, OR, OR REBUILD THAT FENCE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD.
SOME PEOPLE IT'S, YOU NEVER SATISFY 'EM.
SO IN THE APPRAISAL PROCESS, WHEN SARAH CATHERINE GOES THROUGH AND GETS THE APPRAISALS, THE, THE, THE, THE APPRAISAL WILL SAY THERE'S 200 FOOT OF FENCE AND IT'S THIS KIND OF FENCE AND THAT FENCE IS WORTH SO MANY DOLLARS PER FOOT.
AND THEN WE PAY THEM THE MONEY, THEN THEY GO PUT UP THE FENCE.
AND LIKE WITH THE RAIN GARDEN, WE WOULDN'T, IF, IF WE DAMAGE THE RAIN GARDEN, WE WOULD WELL, WELL I WASN'T THINKING OF IT THAT WAY.
I WAS JUST THINKING OF THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT IT'S THERE BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY HAS DONE A SIGNIFICANTLY GOOD JOB OF YEAH.
THE, THE DIP IN THAT CURVE YEAH.
SO, AND IT'S NOT OBVIOUS TO MOST PEOPLE THAT IT'S THERE ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW YEAH.
BUT SO SOMEBODY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE WATER CUTS IN.
THIS IS WHERE SOMEBODY BOXED IN THE INLET OF THAT AND IT'S, SO I'M SORRY NICK, I NEED TO KEEP MOVING HERE.
I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU COMMISSIONER DONOUGHS DONAHUE'S QUESTION.
SO, UH, AND DICKIE MENTIONED FENCES THAT WE BUY THOSE.
SO IF A, IF AN INDIVIDUAL HAS CONSTRUCTED ANYTHING WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY,
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UH, EITHER UH, ON PURPOSE OR, UH, UNINTENTIONALLY, UH, THEN WE DON'T TYPICALLY ADJUST FOR THAT.IF WE ARE, UNLESS WE'RE RIGHT WIDENING THE ROAD SUCH THAT NOW WE'RE TAKING OUT SOMETHING THAT THE OWNER HAS LIKE A FENCE OR A RAIN GARDEN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEN THEY'RE COMPENSATED FOR THAT LOSS AND THEN THEY CAN REBUILD IT BACK.
SO IF, IF THE RAIN GARDEN THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT IS OUTSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE SOUTH OF THE ROAD, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE IMPACTING THAT UNLESS WE GET INTO IT WITH, UH, SOME SORT OF DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
AND IF WE DO, UH, THAT WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE TAKING NEW PROPERTY FOR THAT EASEMENT.
THEY WOULD BE COMPENSATED FOR THAT RAIN GARDEN.
BUT UH, AS LONG AS IT'S ALREADY OUTSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
JUST WANNA MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.
THERE'S A CLARIFICATION BETWEEN WHETHER OR NOT A PROPERTY OWNER IS COMPENSATED FOR INSTRUCTIONS OR IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR IF IT'S WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE PLANNING WHAT TO DO ON THAT DIP YES MA'AM.
THERE'S WATER THAT HISTORICALLY HAS GONE THERE THAT'S BEEN DIVERTED.
SO, SO IF, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO GO THROUGH B AND C OR JUST C OR IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THIS, THEN YOU KNOW, PAT CAN TAKE YOU THROUGH THE WHOLE, ALL THE RESULTS.
IT'S JUST UP TO YOU GUYS WHETHER SHOULD, SHOULDN'T WE CALL THE MORGUE? I THINK B IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL ISN'T
CAN WE GET COPIES OF THAT SURVEY? ABSOLUTELY.
DO THEY HAVE THE PACKAGE COPIES OF JUST THE OKAY.
TOTAL RESULTS OR DO YOU WANT THE 80 PAGES OF SEND US AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING WITH IT? I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT.
BUT, BUT THEN DID YOU WANT ALL THE DETAIL OR JUST DID YOU WANT ALL THE DETAIL OR JUST THE SUMMARY? WE HAVE 80 PAGES OF SURVEY.
NO, I JUST WANT WHAT HE SHOWS US THIS MORNING.
I DON'T WANT THE WHOLE THING SUMMARY.
IT'S A SUMMARY OF, OF EVERYTHING.
SO IF, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO GO THROUGH B AND C OR JUST C OR IF YOU GUYS ARE GOOD, THEN I'M GOOD.
JUST A, I MADE A VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION SO IF WE CAN, YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM, WE CAN.
BUT THERE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUMPING AROUND A BIT.
DID ANY ADVANTAGE TO C OVER A SHOW UP EITHER IN THE SURVEY OR AS YOU LOOKED AT THIS AGAIN THAT JUST, JUST IN A BROAD SENSE, IS, WAS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT C THAT WAS BETTER THAN THIS PLAN? SO THE PUBLIC LIKED SOME OF THE PUBLIC LIKE SEA 'CAUSE OF THEIR, THE ONES THAT LIVED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.
BECAUSE IT WAS THEIR, SOME CONSIDERED IT LIKE A, A PRIVATE PUBLICLY FUNDED ROAD THAT WE WOULD STILL BE MAINTAINING, BUT IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DRIVEWAY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO.
SO THE PEOPLE THAT DID LOVE SEA OR MAJORITY LIVED ON THAT SOUTH MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THERE'S LESS CUT THROUGHS, BUT YOU SEE THE DAMAGE FROM THE CUT THROUGHS ARE VERY MINIMAL.
A LOT LESS THAN WHAT I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT TOO ON A, THAT WAS A BIG ON A RIGHT.
ON A, WE LOST FIVE TREES ON SEA.
AND THEN AGAIN IN POOR HEALTH.
THERE'S ONE SEATER YOU'RE LOSING ONE GOOD 18 INCH WALNUT AND ON C 60 FEET OF THE HARLAN WALL IS GONNA BE REMOVED AND RELOCATED AND ON A 85 FEET.
AND THAT'S AS FAR AS WALL LOSS.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING THE, THE WILLIAMS PULLED IT OVER TO GET OFF THE WILLIAMS PROPERTY.
AND AGAIN, WE CAN TAKE THAT WALL IN, IN THE BUDGET.
I HAVE TAKEN THAT WALL DOWN AND PUT IT BACK UP SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO WE WON'T LOSE THE WALL, IT'LL JUST MOVE.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU.
I'M GOING TO BRING UP ONE THING I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT AND, AND NOT TO DECIDE ANYTHING TODAY, BUT JUST TO BRING IT UP AGAIN.
PRIOR TO COVID WE HAD, YOU REMEMBER QUARTERLY MEETINGS, WE HAD, UM, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT REPRESENTED BRENTWOOD, THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS THAT REPRESENTED BRENTWOOD, THE COUNTY MAYOR, UH, SOMEONE FROM OUR CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, WHOEVER WAS EITHER THAT PERSON, I MEAN MARSHA BLACKBURN CAME FREQUENTLY WHEN SHE WAS IN TOWN OR SOMEONE FROM THEIR OFFICE.
WE MET AT FIVE 30, WE STOPPED AT SEVEN AND IT WAS WELL ATTENDED AND THAT WAS THE SECRET.
WE STOPPED AT SEVEN AND IF YOU WEREN'T, YOU COULD LEAVE AT SEVEN IF PEOPLE WERE STILL
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WANTING TO TALK.WE WENT AROUND THE ROOM AND EACH PERSON MAYBE TALKED TWO MINUTES ON WHAT SOMETHING THEY THOUGHT WE'D ALL FIND INTERESTING.
AND THERE WAS NO LONG-WINDED STUFF BECAUSE THESE THINGS DON'T WORK IF PEOPLE GET REAL LONG-WINDED, WE SERVE FOOD.
AND THE BENEFIT OVER THE YEARS OF THAT WAS WE KNEW PEOPLE FACE TO FACE AND WE WERE, IT HELPED WORK WITH THEM WHEN WE DISAGREED, YOU KNEW WHAT KIND OF PERSON THEY WERE.
AND I THINK IN THE CLIMATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY, WE, WE DIDN'T GET BACK TO IT AFTER COVID.
WE NEED TO, IT WORKED VERY, VERY WELL AND UH, IT WAS ONCE A QUARTER AND IT REALLY WAS WELL ATTENDED.
SO I'D LIKE FOR US TO THINK ABOUT INSTITUTING THAT AGAIN.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY, I, I REALLY MISS DOING THOSE AND LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU DO 'EM ZOOM WITH EXACTLY THAT FORMAT, JUST SETTING UP THE TABLE IN HERE, DO DOING A DINNER MEETING SO IT DOESN'T INTERRUPT ANYONE'S WORK SCHEDULE AND JUST LET PEOPLE GO AROUND AND COMMENT AND HAVE A BIT OF TIME BEFORE AND AFTER VISIT.
PLENTY YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE IN A FIGHT WITH THE COUNTY PARKS, JOE SWEENEY AND I WENT TO A MEETING AND JOHN HANCOCK, ROGERS ANDERSON AND CHARLES SERGEANT WANTED THIS THROWN OUT AND WE REFUSED TO LEAVE
I RAN INTO ROGERS ANDERSON AT THE MALL SHORTLY AFTER AND WE JUST STARTED CHATTING.
WE'VE BEEN FRIENDS EVER SINCE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW PEOPLE SOMETIMES.
UH, AND, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE EVER DID, WAS COMING TOGETHER FOR THOSE QUARTERLY MEETINGS.
WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND THE, THE PARDON ME THEN WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
IS THAT THE SAME AS THE MAYOR'S BREAKFAST OR MAYOR'S? IT'S NOT BECAUSE I DID HAVE A RESIDENT WHO ASKED, ARE WE GONNA START BACK TO THE MAYOR'S BREAKFASTS AGAIN? AND I WAS LIKE, I'LL ASK THE MAYOR.
SO, SO THE BREAKFAST WITH THE MAYOR THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH IS THE ONE PUT ON BY, I THINK FRANKLIN TOMORROW.
THAT WE HAD SPOKE AT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
UM, I, I'M NOT AWARE OF LIKE THE BRENTWOOD MAYOR HAVING A A, A SEPARATE MAYOR'S BREAKFAST.
I'LL HAVE TO ADD I THINK THEY WOULD BRENT, BRENT BRENTWOOD UP CLARK A COUPLE OF THEM DURING THE, AND THE MAYOR PRESIDES AT THESE AND GOES AROUND THERE AND KEEPS IT MOVING.
THIS SEEMS THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING.
MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT WORD FOR IT.
I THOUGHT WE DID IT SEMI-ANNUALLY.
DID WE DID, HUH? DID WE I THOUGHT WE DID IT TWICE.
NO, WE DID IT QUARTERLY QUARTER.
I MEAN, THEY CAME WITH FOOD AT FIVE 30 AND THEY WERE OUT AT SEVEN AND THAT WAS OUR COMMITMENT TO 'EM.
AND ALONG THOSE LINES, UNLESS ANYONE ELSE HAS COMMENTS ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC THING, UH, WE DO HAVE, UM, I'VE BEEN ASKED AS MAYOR TO SPEAK TO A COUPLE DIFFERENT GROUPS COMING UP.
SO WANTED TO BE SURE ALL OF Y'ALL KNEW THAT.
UH, NEXT FRIDAY, WHICH IS THE 26TH, UM, I'LL BE DOWN AT POLICY TALKS, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT THEY DO DOWN AT COLUMBIA STATE.
CAMPUS HERE IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
SO ALL OF Y'ALL ARE INVITED FOR SURE, YOU KNOW, AT SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING.
UH, IT'S UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT DAVE CROUCH MODERATES IT, AND IT IS, THEY USUALLY HAVE THE STATE REPS OR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT FOLKS THERE FOR TALK POLICY AND THEY'RE DOING A SERIES RIGHT NOW WITH THE CITIES COMING TO DO THE POLICY TALKS.
SO NEXT FRIDAY WE HAVE A TWOFER, WE HAVE POLICY TALKS IN THE MORNING, SEVEN 30, AND THEN I'M THE SPEAKER AT NOON ROTARY, UH, IN BRENTWOOD, WHICH IS OVER AT THE MARTIN CENTER.
SO, UM, SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE SIMILAR CONTENT FOR BOTH OF THOSE, JUST WORKING THROUGH IT.
IF Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE DYING TO MAKE SURE I TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I BRINGING UP OLD SMYRNA ROAD AND THE 2040 PLAN TO SOME EXTENT, BUT JUST WORKING ON COMMENTS FOR THAT.
BUT EVERYONE'S INVITED TO BOTH OF THOSE AND THEN COMING INTO, UM, NOVEMBER.
SO IT'S STILL A LITTLE WAYS OUT, BUT THE, UM, THE WILLIAMSON KIND OF CHAMBER HAS BEEN GETTING THE VARIOUS CITIES TO DO LIKE A STATE OF THE CITY KIND OF FUNCTION JUST TO TALK, YOU KNOW, WITH CHAMBER MEMBERS AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE CITY.
UM, SO I THINK SPRING HILL JUST DID THEIRS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO IN VILLE HAS ONE COMING UP FOR US THAT IS AT THE BRENTWOOD LIBRARY ON NOVEMBER 13TH.
SO WE'LL BE DOING THE STATE OF THE CITY AND, UM, IT'S, I'M NOT REALLY AWARE OF US DOING THIS BEFORE.
I THINK IT'S A NEW INITIATIVE BY THE CHAMBER.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT, UM, AND JASON AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH CHARLES IN TERMS OF BEING SURE WE'VE GOT A, A GOOD SETUP, BUT IT'S NINE TO 10 30 ON THE MORNING OF NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 13TH OVER AT THE LIBRARY.
IT LOOKS LIKE, LIKE WHEN SPRING HILL DID THEIRS, I MEAN IT'S IS DOZENS OF PEOPLE, NOT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE.
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DOES REPORT AND POST IT, YOU KNOW, JUST IF ANYONE'S TRYING TO GET TO KNOW THE DIFFERENT CITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE UP TO.YOUR NOON NOTARY, YOU SAID FRIDAY, DID YOU MEAN TOMORROW OR, UH, NEXT FRIDAY.
SO THE 26TH FOR, SO THE POLICY TALKS AND NOON ROTARY BOTH THE SAME DAY A WEEK FROM FRIDAY.
AND UM, QUICK QUESTION ON, ON FLAGS IN BRENTWOOD, FUNNY ENOUGH, AND I GUESS WE GET THESE QUESTIONS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
UM, FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, IS EVERYONE KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH THE FLAGS PROGRAMS AROUND TOWN AND WHERE THE FLAGS COME UP AND GO DOWN, HEAR JUST THE ONES THAT THEY DO ON THE STREET? TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE FLAGS.
UM, SO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU GET QUESTIONS LIKE, I GOT ONES LAST WEEKEND, SEPTEMBER 11TH.
AND SO PEOPLE KNOW, UM, WE'VE GOT I THINK THE LIONS CLUB WHO DOES FLAGS ON FRANKLIN RO OR EXCUSE THE S EXCHANGE CLUB.
EXCHANGE CLUB DOES THE FLAGS ON FRANKLIN ROAD AND THEY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PUTTING THEM UP AND BRINGING 'EM DOWN.
SO Y'ALL KNOW THERE'S SOMETIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEIR FLAGS.
SO THERE ARE TIMES THAT IF THE EXCHANGE CLUB HAS A MONSOON IN THE FORECAST, THEY'LL COME AND TAKE THEIR FLAGS DOWN SO THE FLAGS DON'T GET RUINED.
AND OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE PEOPLE TRY TO SPIN THAT UP AS A POLITICAL ISSUE.
WHY ARE THE FLAGS NOT UP? YEAH,
WELL THOSE AREN'T CITY OF BRENTWOOD FLAGS, SO WE DON'T FULLY CONTROL 'EM, BUT WE DO LOVE THAT THE EXCHANGE CLUB DOES THIS AND FULLY SUPPORT 'EM AND COLLABORATE WITH THEM ON IT.
BUT ALSO VARIOUS BANDS AROUND THE, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY DO PROGRAMS. SO LIKE THE RAVENWOOD BAND, UM, HAS A BIG FUNDRAISER WHERE IF YOU DO A DONATION, THEY'LL PUT A FLAG IN YOUR YARD ON VARIOUS HOLIDAYS AND STUFF.
SO THEY'LL ALSO HAVE A LOT OF FLAGS THAT COME UP AND DOWN FOR THE RAVENWOOD BAND.
I THINK BRENTWOOD BAND MAY DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
THAT'S ALSO NOT, SO THAT'S NOT PUBLIC WORKS, THAT'S NOT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, BUT IF YOU GET QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, UM, AND I HAD A QUESTION THIS WEEK ABOUT HALF MASTER OR NOT, AND FRANKLY I DON'T HAVE THE FAINTEST IDEA HOW WE, I KNOW THE CITY KEEPS TRACK OF WHEN THERE'S REQUESTS TO DO FLAGS THAT HAVE MASKS BEFORE WE DO FIRE DEPARTMENT USUALLY COORDINATES FIRE, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS DOING THE HALF MASS THING, BUT THEY, THEY CAN ONLY DO IT ON ORDERS.
IT'S NOT, YOU CAN'T CALL 'EM UP AND ASK THEM TO DO IT.
DOES THAT FOLLOW A STATE GUIDELINE? UH, PRE PRESIDENT OR GOVERNOR? YEAH, GOVERNOR, PRESIDENT OR GOVERNOR.
SO, SO ONCE AGAIN THAT, THAT IS NOT A MAYOR THING.
I ACTUALLY GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY IS WHY I WAS FLYING FLAGS, HALF MASKED
YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FIRE, UM, THE ONE OF THE FLAGS HAD FALLEN IN THE ROAD AND I STOPPED.
AND YOUR CREW, WHEN I 'CAUSE CARS WERE TRYING TO, HAVING TO GO AROUND IT AND I HAPPENED TO SEE THEM.
THEY WERE, THEY WERE HAD THEIR HATS ON.
AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT OF, OF BRENTWOOD METHODIST
I THOUGHT THAT WAS COOL JUST TO SEE THEM OUT THERE.
AND I SAID, WHO DO I ASK? AND THEY SAID, WE'LL, GO TAKE CARE OF IT.
SO THANKS TO YOUR, YOUR CREW, BECAUSE CARS WERE TRYING TO GO AROUND THE FLAG AND IT WAS TOO MUCH FOR ME TO UNDO.
SO
SO, BUT YEAH, THE FLAGS ARE AWESOME THAT THE EXCHANGE CLUB DOES WE? YEAH.
I THINK THEY LOST 12 FLAGS THIS LAST TIME A POPUP THUNDERSTORM HAPPENED.
AND THEY LOST SOME PACKETS OFF THE POLES.
IT MUST HAVE BEEN A HECK OF A STORY.
YEAH, WELL, DIDN'T HAPPENED LAST THURSDAY.
YEAH, SEPTEMBER 11TH IS EXACTLY, I MEAN THIS WAS BENT STEVE, STEVE GOT OUT TO TRY TO UNDO IT AND HE'S LIKE, I, WE WE CAN, SO THEY SAVED THE DAY, THE FIREMEN.
SO YEAH, IT MUST HAVE BEEN BAD.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID THIS AND I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.
UH, THAT WE DO REIMBURSE THE EXCHANGE CLUB ONCE IN A WHILE.
'CAUSE THEY DID IT FOR YEARS AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE AND THEY'RE A SMALL CLUB AND IT SEEMED LIKE A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR ALL THE WORK THEY DID.
SO WE WOULD REPLACE THEIR FLAGS FOR 'EM OCCASIONALLY.
AND IT HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF MONEY.
I I GO TO THEIR MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW THIS, THEY'RE A GOOD ORGANIZATION.
THEY WILL ALSO TRY TO TAKE TWO OLD FLAGS AND MARRY THE POLL AND THE GOOD FLAG, YOU KNOW.
THEY, THEY DO A GOOD JOB ON TRYING TO MINIMIZE THOSE COSTS.
AND, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT PROBABLY WE DO THAT YOU DON'T, DIDN'T COME UP IN THIS DISCUSSION.
BRENTWOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT HELPS THEM TOO, BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE GOING DOWN THE ROAD TRYING TO PUT THOSE UP, THEY'VE USUALLY GOT A SQUAD CAR BEHIND THEM, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
BUT IT, IT DOESN'T TAKE 'EM VERY LONG.
THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO.
AND THEY LOOKS SO GOOD WHEN THEY'RE UP, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY COOL.
THAT WAS A FANTASTIC COMMUNITY SERVICE.