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SO YOU KNOW THAT, OH, HE'S NOT GONNA MAKE IT.[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing August 21, 2025 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the August 25th Agendas, the item below will be discussed: Updated Gateway Sign Designs This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
NOT GONNA MAKE IT THIS MORNING.SO I DON'T THINK IT'LL TAKE TOO LONG.
UH, YOU AND SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
SO WE HAVE, UH, TO START OFF WITH, FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, WE START WITH THE BEER BOARD MEETING.
SO IT MEANS YOU HAVE TO BE HERE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, 6 45.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, ONE ITEM, A NEW BUSINESS ON THAT AGENDA, AND THAT'S A REQUEST OF JONATHAN'S GRILL FOR AN ON-PREMISE BEER PERMIT AT 1 0 7 CREEKSIDE CROSSING.
AND ALL THE INFORMATION, UH, IS IN YOUR PACKET.
AND THAT'S ONE WHERE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO 'EM AND ASK QUESTIONS.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK? UH, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY SH THEY ARE, HE WOULD BE HERE.
THEY OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY ARE GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE PEER BOARD MEETING OWNERS.
THEY NOT ALREADY HAVE AN ALCOHOLIC, LIKE A NEW OWNER, OR, UH, MAY I THINK A NEW OWNER TRANSFORM.
I GONNA SAY, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY DIDN'T.
THEY LIVE IN BRENTWOOD NEW LOCATION.
WHO LIVES IN BRENTWOOD? THE OWNERS.
SO DID THEY SELL IT? NO, IT'S IN HERE.
SO THEY GOT ONE IN COOL SPRINGS, RIGHT? ONE DOWNTOWN, BUT I THINK IT'S THE FIRST IN BRENTWOOD SPECIFICALLY PERMITS OUR BY LOCATION, NOT BY OH, OKAY.
AND, UH, FOR YOUR, UH, REGULAR MEETING, UH, WE, UH, HAVE OUR PRESENTATION FOR THE, UH, SCHOOLS, THE FUNDING, THE RECREATION SERVICE PROVIDERS AND COMMUNITY SERVICE PROVIDERS.
SO WE'LL START OFF WITH THAT AND BE, AND THEN AS WE, UH, GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE A FEW CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. UH, THE FIRST ONE IS AN AMENDMENT WITH OUR MEDICAL BENEFITS, UH, PLAN FOR, UH, IT'S OUR PHARMACY BENEFIT PLAN.
AND IN ESSENCE, UH, I'LL SUMMARIZE THIS.
WHAT IT DOES IS IT WILL TAKE STELARA, UH, A, A DRUG THAT TREATS A VARIETY OF CONDITIONS FROM CROHN'S TO PSORIATIC ARTHRITIS.
UH, IT'LL TAKE IT OFF OUR LIST AND ADD WHAT'S CALLED A BIOSIMILAR.
IT'S NOT A GENETIC OR GENERIC WHAT YOU'RE USED TO HEARING ABOUT GENERICS, BUT IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A SUB, IT'S A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE NAME BRAND EVEN.
SO, AND IT WILL TAKE STELARA OFF BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE A BIOSIMILAR.
THE DIFFERENCE TREATS THE SAME THING.
THE DIFFERENCE IN COST IS A STELARA CAN COST BETWEEN 15,020 9,000 PER MONTH, DEPENDING ON THE DOSE.
AND THE SOMEWHAT EQUIVALENT COST COMPARISON WOULD BE 900 TO $1,700 PER FILL.
AND SO, UH, IT'S A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE THERE.
SO WE TYPICALLY WOULDN'T DO THAT UNLESS THERE IS A BIOSIMILAR, SOME KIND OF SUBSTITUTE IN THIS CASE THERE IS.
WE ALSO, UH, HAD LOOKED AT THIS AS FAR BACK AS MAY 1ST.
THERE ARE NO, UH, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, NO ACTIVE SUBSCRIPTION OR PRESCRIPTIONS.
UH, NO ACTIVE PRESCRIPTIONS FOR TELARA EITHER.
SO WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE INTERRUPTING ANYBODY'S USE OF THE DRUG CURRENTLY.
SO, SO REMIND ME, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A FAIR QUESTION FOR YOU OR JAY, YOU MAY KNOW.
I, I BELIEVE WITH OUR SPECIALTY PHARMACY, PART OF THAT IS A CONSULTING SERVICE THAT KEEPS AN EYE ON THESE THINGS.
IS THIS, SO THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION BY OUR CHERYL MORGAN.
OUR BENEFITS CONSULTANT, CHERYL MORGAN.
UH, THEY'RE ALWAYS ON THE EYE ON THE LOOK FOR DISEASE, THE SCHEME OF THEM.
IT'S, IT'S IN CONSULTATION WITH CHERYL AND ALSO WITH MEDDIN.
IS THERE A, A, AN OPT-IN FOR PEOPLE WHO, FOR WHATEVER REASONS DON'T RESPOND TO THE BIOSIMILAR AND NEED TO BE ON THE STOOL? I'M SORRY.
SO WHEN, WHEN THERE'S A BIOSIMILAR YES.
UM, OR EVEN DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS.
SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T RESPOND TO THAT ONE.
AND SINCE THAT'S A, A MEASURABLE OBJECTIVE KIND OF DISEASE MM-HMM
THAT YOU SEE A RESPONSE OR YOU DON'T SEE A RESPONSE.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE MED BEND PLAN FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T RESPOND TO THE BIOSIMILAR THAT THEY CAN GET A THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
THAT I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE CAN FIND OUT.
PERHAPS IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT NEED TO CHANGE BACK TO, BUT DID IT THE NIGHT IT'S NOT WORKING.
SO IT DID IT HISTORIC COORDIN MEETING.
YOU GO SEE IF WE CAN SEND THAT MAKES ME THINK.
THERE MIGHT BE, YOU MAY NOT JUST YEAH.
FILING SUIT AGAINST THE CITY AD
LOOK FROM BETTER THAN BEFORE TO WORSE THAN BEFORE.
BUT WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF THAT QUESTION.
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OKAY.UM, ANN, LET ME KNOW IF I, IF, IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME, SO I'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN, I CAN HEAR YOU.
I JUST CAN'T HEAR ANYBODY ELSE.
WELL IF WE GET INTO A CONVERSATION, WE'LL, WE'LL PAUSE THEN.
THE NEXT ITEM IS JUST ACQUISITION.
ACQUISITION OF AN EASEMENT FOR OUR, UH, WATER SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, YOU HAD, THE COMMISSION HAD PROVED A, A PROGRAM BEFORE TO FUND EMERGENCY GENERATORS, UH, POWER TO OUR WATER AND SEWER PUMPING STATIONS.
AND SO WE HAVE A, UH, STATION UP, UH, OFF OF, IT'S THE OVERLOOK PART, COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION AT 9 0 0 3 OVERLOOK BOULEVARD.
AND THIS IS FOR A PERMANENT ABOVE GROUND GENERATOR.
AND THE, THE REASON FOR THE NEED FOR THE EASEMENT IS BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN EASEMENT, BUT IT'S CLOSER TO THE BUILDING AND THE OWNER DOESN'T LIKE THE LOCATION.
SO THE OWNER'S WILLING TO GIVE US AN EASEMENT THAT WORKS FOR US AND WORKS FOR THEM.
SO THERE'S NO COST FOR US TO OBTAIN THAT AND ALLOWS US TO DO THE SAME THING.
SO IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, HERE'S A, HERE'S A, AN, UH, AERIAL THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THAT.
SO YOU'LL SEE CHURCH STREET ACROSS THE TOP.
I SHOULD BROUGHT MY THREE POINTER, BUT THERE'S CHURCH STREET.
IT'S JUST SOUTH OF THERE, RIGHT HERE.
AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST OPTION WHEN IT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
THE, UH, SET ITEM NUMBER THREE IS AN EXTENSION, UH, TO THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT, UH, WHICH IS THEIR MEDICAL CENTER FOR IMPLEMENTATION COORDINATION OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES FIRST RESPONDER PROGRAM, UH, UNDER STATE EMS RULES.
AND, UM, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IS REQUIRED, UH, FOR FIRST RESPONDER AGENCIES THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE, UH, AMBULANCE, UH, UH, OPERATIONS.
AND WE DO PROVIDE FIRST RESPONDER, UH, SERVICES.
AND WE HAVE A CURRENT AGREEMENT FOR THAT, OR I SHOULD SAY AN AN MOU FOR THAT.
AND SO, UH, THAT MOU WILL EXPIRE, UH, ON THE 28TH OF NOVEMBER.
IN AN ORDER TO EXTEND, WE HAVE TO, IN 90 DAYS ADVANCE OF THE TERMINATION, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF EXTENSION.
DOESN'T, UH, NO CHANGES AT ALL.
NOW I DO WANNA BRING UP THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE NEWS THAT THE, UH, POTENTIAL SALE OF THE HOSPITAL AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT THIS IS NON-BINDING.
SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES TO, UH, EMS SERVICES, WE'LL NEED TO DEAL WITH IT THEN.
BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW.
THIS DOESN'T LOCK US INTO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT IS AN MOU.
WHAT'S THE, UH, WHAT'S THE TIME TIMEFRAME, THE, OF THE 16 G FOR HOW LONG? UH, THIS WOULD BE A THREE YEAR.
WELL, THAT'S HOW LONG THAT PLAN IS.
THEY'RE GIVING IN THEMSELVES THREE YEARS TO MAKE A DECISION.
NOW THEY MAY MAKE IT A LOT SOONER, BUT YEAH.
ONE, ONE OF MY FRIENDS, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE SATELLITE IN WILLIAMSON, HE HAD TO TAKE A NEIGHBOR DOWN THERE THIS WEEK.
HE SAID HE DIDN'T REALIZE, I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE'S 42 BEDS IN THEIR ER.
AND THEY, AND THE, THE NURSE SAID THEY WERE PRETTY FULL AND THEY COULD USE ANOTHER EIGHT BEDS.
THEY'RE REALLY BUSY DOWN THERE.
WELL, WHEN JOHN WAS THERE, WE WENT PART OF THE TIME HE WAS IN THE WEST TOWER
AND SO MANY OF 'EM WERE EMPTY.
THAT'LL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH.
AND THEN WE HAVE ON THE, UH, LAST, UH, CONSENT ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
WE HAVE APPROVAL, UH, TO PURCHASE A PICKUP TRUCK FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, DEPARTMENT, THE TRAFFIC DIVISION.
IT'S, UH, IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND AND, UH, AS A REPLACEMENT.
AND SO THE, THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD BECAUSE WE ARE PURCHASING A FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE, UH, F-150, WHICH IS A HALF TON VEHICLE FROM LONNIE COBB FORD UTILIZING THE STATE OF TENNESSEE STATEWIDE CONTRACT.
THE ONLY CAVEAT HERE I WANT TO POINT OUT IS, IS THAT WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR A TWO WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLE WAS USED TO GET THE PRICING FOR OUR BUDGET AND WE REALLY NEED A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE.
SO, UH, BASED ON THAT PRICING, WE, IT'LL BE $7,644 MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD.
BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE PROJECT SAVINGS FROM WITHIN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND TO FUND THE DIFFERENCE.
BUT IT'S CLEAR WE DO NEED A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE PICKUP FOR THE USE THAT THEY'D LIKE TO, TO HAVE.
SO, UH, THAT'S THE ONLY CAVEAT THERE.
HOW DID THE TWO WHEEL DRIVE END UP IN THE BUDGET? I DON'T KNOW.
I'M GONNA LOOK, DALE MAY NOT KNOW EITHER OR, WELL, ACTUALLY, UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T ANSWER IT.
THAT WAS JUST WHAT WAS IN THE FILES FROM THE PREVIOUS QUOTE THAT WAS, YEAH, JAY, MYSELF.
SO IT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME FROM THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR.
AND THEN WHEN DALE SAW THAT, HE SAID, I
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DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA GET US A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLE.HE FOUND OUT IT WAS ACTUALLY A TWO WHEEL DRIVE QUOTE.
WELL, AND IT WELL MAY BE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SPECULATE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE DOING SOME OF THESE BUDGETS, TRUCKS WERE REALLY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.
SO IT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN BASED IN AVAILABILITY.
BUT, UM, BUT JUST BRINGING IT UP IN CASE THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT FLOATING AROUND IN LEGACY BUDGETS, WHEN SCARCITY WAS MORE OF A DRIVING FORCE, THEN UTILITY THAT WE JUST TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WOULD REALLY DO THE JOB.
'CAUSE WE NEED TO BUY THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SPECKING THIS OUT BASED ON WHAT WE NEED.
AND THAT ONE IS JUST THE BUDGET.
AND, AND TO ADD WHY THAT ACTUALLY IS GONNA PULL THE FIBER REEL TRAILER FOR MARTIN.
SO IT HAS TO GET OFF OF THE ROAD AND JUMP CURBS.
SOMETIMES IT WILL GET IN AREAS THAT WILL BE WET.
SO IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE TWO WHEEL DRIVE AND THEN HIM STUCK WITH A TRAILER AND A, AND A WHEEL OF FIBER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
SO WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE STREET SWEEPER THAT WAS DAMAGED? WELL, THE STATUS OF THE STREET SWEEPER, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE.
UM, SO WE, UH, UH, THEY WERE GONNA TRY TO DO A QUOTE BASED OFF OF PICTURES.
UM, WE TOOK IT UPON OURSELF TO CALL SANSOM, WHICH IS THE STREET SWEEPER EXPERTS.
THERE'S A CHASSIS AND THEN THERE'S A STREET SWEEPER SECTION.
SO WE BROUGHT THE EXPERTS IN THAT LOOK AT THE STREET SWEEPER PART.
THEY PROVIDED WHAT THEY THOUGHT THE REPAIRS WERE, THEN WE HAULED IT TO VELOCITY IN NASHVILLE, WHICH WOULD BE THE CHASSIS BECAUSE THE AXLE DID GET TWEAKED WITH THE REAR ENDING.
UM, THOSE TWO QUOTES ARE IN, THEY'VE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE INSURANCE AND THEN THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW TO SEE WHEN THEY CAN START THE REPAIRS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN LOOKED AT ACCURATELY AND I'M SURE THEY'LL FIND MORE AS THEY DIVE INTO THE REPAIRS.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE REPAIRABLE DUE TO THE ESTIMATES.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT WORD YET FROM THE INSURANCE, BUT, UH, THE, THE CONSENSUS OF THE STREET SWEEPER EXPERT FROM, UH, SHELBYVILLE AS SAYS IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S VERY REPAIRABLE FOR THE VALUE OF THE SWEEPER.
SO ONE THING I, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, UH, DALE AND HIS FOLKS PAID CLOSE ATTENTION BECAUSE INITIALLY THEY WANTED TO USE PICTURES TO PROVIDE THE EVALUATION OF IT.
AND, AND THEY INDICATED, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MISS A LOT IN PICTURES AND BECAUSE YOU REALLY NEED TO SEE IT, SEE VARIETY OF ANGLES WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S BEN AND THE EFFECT IT CAN HAVE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY, UH, TOOK IT AND HAD 'EM, UH, TOOK IT TO 'EM, HAD 'EM DO THAT SO WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A REALLY GOOD EVALUATION AND, AND THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT THE, UH, REPAIR IS GOING TO NEED TO BE AND CAN COST IT AND FOR A FINAL DETERMINATION.
AND THEN, UH, OLD BUSINESS, WE HAVE THE APPOINTMENT OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER.
SO ON THAT I'VE HEARD BACK FROM STEVE AND ANN, OF COURSE KEN MADE NOMINATION.
KIM, YOU SAID WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CHANCE TO VISIT TODAY.
AND I'LL TOUCH BASE WITH RAY JUST TO MAKE SURE.
THANK, DID YOU TALK TO HIM NELSON? I DID.
THAT, THAT IS IT FOR YOUR AGENDA? YES.
PERTAINING TO THE MEETING MONDAY NIGHT.
CHARLES, YOU'LL BE TAKING PICTURES OF US WITH ALL THE GROUPS.
WHAT'S THE, WHAT, WHAT'S THE ARRANGEMENT? ARE WE GONNA GO DOWN ONE TIME AND THEN DIFFERENT GROUPS ARE GONNA JOIN US? ARE WE GONNA HOP UP AND GO DOWN AFTER EVERY GROUP GETS UP AND SPEAKS? UH, WE CAN DO WHATEVER'S EASIEST FOR YOU.
UH, BUT WE MIGHT DO ALL AT ONCE, LIKE AFTER EVERY PRESENTATION AND HAVE EVERYBODY COME OUT AT THE, AT THE VERY END.
AFTER EVERY PRESENTATION WE'LL GET UP AND TROT DOWN FRONT.
I'LL MOVE THE, UH, PODIUM OUT.
NO, I THINK I THOUGHT YOU SAID WE'D TAKE ONE PICTURE AT THE END AND GET THE GROUPS TO TROT IT.
OH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS SAYING.
AND, UH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.
AND ARE WE ALSO DOING THE COMMISSION GROUP PHOTO NOW? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT DAY TO DO IT IF EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
YOU'D RATHER NOT DO IT MONDAY.
I'M GETTING MY HAIR CUT AND I DON'T WANT A GROUP PICTURE WITH ME.
PERMANENT PICTURE WITH YOU TOO SHORT.
BUT WE COULD, I THOUGHT WE HAD THAT MATTERS TO WOMEN.
WE COULD ALL WELL, WE HADN'T RESCHEDULED IT, BUT WE COULD ALSO DO SEPTEMBER 4TH WHEN WE HAVE THE, A MUCH BETTER PHOTOGRAPHER THAN YOURS.
IS IT SEPTEMBER 4TH TO BREAK? THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
MAYBE SOMEONE WHO CAN ENHANCE THE PICTURE AFTER IT'S TAKEN.
SEPTEMBER 4TH DAY WE'LL SEND SOMETHING ELSE OUT.
SO, BUT WE'LL GO WITH SEPTEMBER 4TH.
THAT WORKS FOR, THAT'S MY GRANDSON'S BIRTHDAY.
SO WE'RE DONE WITH THIS AGAIN? YEAH, THAT'S YOUR AGENDA.
IT'S A IT'S A NICE SHORT AGENDA, SIR.
UH, I'M JUST GONNA PEEK OUT AND FROM ST IS HERE.
BUT WHAT ARE THEY MOVING DOWN ON
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UNIT.I JUST, I'VE HAD, AFTER I SET THE NOTE OUT, I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAYING, WHAT'S GOING DOWN? YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE A LARGE ONE.
OH, WELL IT'S AS BIG AS A BUILDING
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA KIND OF WING THIS A LITTLE BIT.
BUT WHAT THEY, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS, THERE'S STILL QUITE A FEW SLIDES OF EXAMPLES, BUT THEY'VE NARROWED IT DOWN ON THE PRIMARY SIGN, UH, WITH VARIATIONS OF WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE, UH, THE DESIGN THAT YOU THINK THAT, UH, YOU KIND OF AGREED ON THE MOST.
THAT'S, THAT THAT PICTURE I BELIEVE, UH, CAME FROM YOUR LAST, UM, CONVERSATION.
AND THERE'S SOME VARIATIONS THERE.
UH, AND WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, I WANNA POINT THAT OUT.
THIS ONE, UH, HAS THE, UH, THE CREST ON THE LEFT, UH, ONE OF 'EM HAD IT ON THE RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MATTERS, UH, HAVING THAT CREST OR A COLORED CREST OR, AND THAT ALSO HAS THE BRENTWOOD TENNESSEE PORTION.
THE MIDDLE PORTION WAS MENTIONED AS SORT OF BEING THAT, THAT TAN LOOK.
UH, I THINK THERE'S ALSO AN OPTION THAT GIVES IT TO YOU WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR TRADITIONAL BLUE.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE AND SEE, BUT IT'S KIND OF VARYING OFF OF THIS.
AND TO BE CLEAR, ALL OF THESE MEET CODE IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC AND THE COLLISION AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND, AND KEEP IN MIND LAST TIME YOU LOOKED AT THE LARGE GATEWAY SIGN, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE WHERE WE HAVE, UH, SMALL SPACES AND IN MEDIAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO DESIGN A SMALLER, I THINK THE INTENT HERE IS TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND ON YOUR LARGE SIGN EXACTLY WHAT YOU AGREE ON.
AND THEN FROM THERE THEY CAN DESIGN A SMALLER VERSION.
Y'ALL HAVE NARROWED DOWN TO A, A DESIGNER TWO, THEN WE CAN START GETTING COST ESTIMATES AND DIFFERENT MATERIALS.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK HERE AND CHARLES JUMP IN, UH, ANYTIME.
BUT, UH, THIS IS A, THIS IS ACTUALLY QUITE IT.
I'M GONNA GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS.
THIS IS A KIND OF A DIFFERENT LOOK THAN THAT ONE.
BUT I THINK THE INTENT ON THIS ONE, AND CORRECT ME, IS JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE FONTS, RIGHT? NOT NECESSARILY TO THROW ANOTHER DESIGN AT YOU.
UH, BUT THAT GIVES YOU AN EX, UH, KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF IF YOUR MIDDLE PORTION IS BLUE AND IT SHOWS THAT, WHAT IS THE GOTHIC, UH, BOOK, UH, FONT AND A LITTLE DIFFERENT DISPLAY.
SO WE'D TALKED ABOUT THE WELCOME TWO, THAT, THAT HAS EVERYTHING.
RIGHT? WELCOME TWO BRENTWOOD AND TENNESSEE IN IT.
SO, UH, AND AGAIN, IF YOU GO BACK TO THIS ONE, IT'S BRENTWOOD, TENNESSEE.
UH, AND I THINK FROM THE LAST CONVERSATION YOU WANTED, I'M TRYING TO RECALL THE TENNESSEE PIECE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WAS REQUESTED.
THE WELCOME TWO WAS A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, FUNGIBLE, I THINK.
UM, SO THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE IN THE BLUE, BUT DON'T PAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO WHAT'S AROUND IT.
UM, KIND OF A SIMILAR TYPE THING.
AND THAT SHOWS IT IN THE NON BLUE.
NOW, ONE THING YOU DO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IS, UH, YOU MAY WISH TO THINK ABOUT IS HOW MUCH CON HOW DO YOU WANT THAT SIGN TO HAVE POP AND REALLY BE SEEN? UH, THE, THE BLUE DOES THAT.
WHAT COLOR LETTERING DID THEY PROPOSE? DO YOU KNOW? FOR THIS? UH, BLUE ONE IT WAS BLUE.
SO BLUE WOULD STILL HAVE SOME POP, PROBABLY MORE SO THAN WHAT THE PICTURE SUGGESTS.
SO IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT CONTRAST TO COLORS AND BEING ABLE TO SEE IT FOR THIS IN THE BLUE LETTERS, YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT PRETTY WELL.
OR IF YOU HAVE THE, THE, THE MAIN INTERIOR PART IS BLUE WITH THE WHITE LETTERS.
IS THIS, WOULD THIS ONE? WHAT ABOUT THE LOGO? YEAH.
WE CAN, IF WE FIGURE OUT, WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE YOU THE RIGHT COMBINATION.
WE BRING THESE IN 'CAUSE IT'S ABOUT COMBINING THESE THINGS.
I, I KIND OF HAD WISHED THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THE OUTER PARTS SIGN FOR THIS PURPOSE, BUT YEAH.
SO THE PROBLEM I FORESEE WITH THE LIGHTER COLORS AS THE BACKGROUND YOU SPEAK YEAH, I'M SORRY.
SO THE PROBLEM I FORESEE WITH THE LIGHTER COLORS AS THE BACKGROUND IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO BE PRESSURE WASHED AND EVERYTHING TO KEEP THEM NICE.
I MEAN, YOU GO TO, I MEAN, I KNOW, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE LIKE STEEL MILLS AND STUFF HERE WHERE I GROW UP, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DO GET DIRTY FROM THE ROAD, DIRT FROM ANYTHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE NEED TO CUT GRASS AROUND THEM AND ALL THAT KINDA STUFF.
SO I THINK THAT, UM, A LIGHTER COLOR WHERE THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO PLAN TO PRESSURE WASH IT EVERY COUPLE MONTHS OR WHATEVER, JUST 'CAUSE WHO WANTS A SIGN THAT LOOKS TRASHY, YOU KNOW? AND I WILL MAKE THE OBSERVATION FROM EXPERIENCE THAT DARKER COLORS SHOW THAT MUCH MORE THAN LIGHTER COLORS.
SO LIKE, THAT'S THE REASON FLEET CARS ARE WHITE BECAUSE WHITE DOESN'T SHOW DIRT.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN LIKE CARPET OR CLOTHING.
THAT'S WHY I HAVE A WHITE CAR CONCERN IS WITH THE BLUE.
HOW IF IT, HOW SUN WILL IT TURN, HOW FAST IT FADE.
THEY'VE BEEN UP FOR A FEW YEARS.
AND IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY I WAS IN, WE HAD A, A DARKER BLUE IN THE BACKGROUND AND IT DID FINE.
WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY, THE FADING ISSUE WAS THE POLE.
UH, THE, UH, THE, UH, IT WAS LIKE A DARK, LIKE A BLACK POLE.
AND UH, IT, UH, IT, THAT WAS WHERE WE SAW THE FADING FROM THE SUN.
WE DID NOT SEE THAT FOR THE SIGN.
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I, I DON'T REMEMBER EVEN SEEING ANY FADING WHILE THERE.SO I THINK WITH THE, WITH THE PROPER QUALITY, UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A FADING, A BIG FADING CONCERN.
JANET, TO YOUR POINT IN THAT IMAGE THERE, YOU'VE GOT GRASS GOING RIGHT UP TO THE SIGN.
AND SO WHEN YOU WEEDY THAT IT'S GONNA STAIN GREEN AND KICKING UP ABOVE IT.
WE WOULD HAVE LIKE A P GRAVEL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AROUND IT.
THAT'D BE LESS MAINTENANCE RIGHT NEXT TO THE SIGN.
IS THAT ON ALL I'M WONDERING, SORRY, IS THAT, IS THAT AS BEST AS IT WILL FIT WHEREVER, WHEREVER THEY ARE? I WOULD THINK SO, BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE NOW, AND I THINK I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH CHARLES, UH, A WHILE BACK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY LIKE THE, UH, EXIT RAMP 65 AT CONQUER ROAD.
THAT ONE TO THE, TO THE LEFT IS LOOKING A LITTLE, A LITTLE RATTY RIGHT NOW.
IT DOESN'T REALLY REPRESENT WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A FLOWER BED OR SOMETHING.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE SHE'S JUST SITTING IN A, IN A DIRT PILE KIND OF.
RIGHT NOW ARE WE GONNA BRING GRASS UP TO THE, UH, TO THE EDGE OF IT? HOW ARE WE GONNA DO THAT? WE'RE WE'RE GONNA DRESS IT UP.
IT, IT NEEDS TO LOOK A LOT BETTER.
AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THE NEW DESIGN TO MAKE ALL THAT HAPPEN BY THE ONE.
AND IS THIS MATERIAL WOOD? IT COULD BE.
IT COULD BE A, UH, WRAPPED TO IT LOOK LIKE WOOD.
UM, ONCE WE GET A DESIGN WE CAN COME BACK WITH DIFFERENT, UH, SAMPLES OF MATERIALS.
AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING COST DIFFERENT SO WE CAN GIVE YOU COST ESTIMATES.
YES, THERE'S A LOT OF NICE LOOKING MATERIALS THAT ARE WEATHERPROOF.
I THINK I, I HAS THAT SHAKE BEEN SETTLED ON? THAT'S OH GOOD.
'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE THAT AT ALL.
SO I, WE WILL BACKING UP A HALF STEP AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION ABOUT MATERIALS.
SO WE WEIRD, WE WANNA LAND ON MATERIALS, NOT, NOT MATERIALS, JUST DESIGN.
IF YOU HAVE LOOK AT THE MATERIALS,
UH, ARE THE SAME AS WHAT'S ON THE WEBPAGE.
AND THEY DO LOOK AT ON THE WEBPAGE AS WELL.
AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE SAME FONTS FOR THE SAME STUFF.
SO THIS IS, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, WE PROBABLY DO WANT STAY CONSISTENT AND IF WE CHANGE SOMETHING ON THE SIGN, REALIZE THAT PROBABLY INDICATES WE SHOULD CHANGE IT EVERYWHERE.
AND IS THAT REALLY WHAT WE WANNA DO? THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
UM, I, I'M STILL NOT SURE WHY THEY, AND CHARLES YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD, 'CAUSE ORIG ORIGINALLY WE KIND OF SETTLED ON WHERE YOU HAD THE, UH, LOOK, THE STACKED STONE LOOK AND NOW THEY HAVE THE WOOD IN DIFFERENT PLACES AND WE DON'T HAVE STACKED STONE UNLESS THAT'S THE INTENT AT THE BOTTOM.
BUT DO, DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY THREW THIS ONE IN? I HAVE NO, THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO GIVE US OPTIONS FROM THE DIFFERENT FEEDBACK.
UH, THAT ONE, I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY PROBABLY AGREED ON THE STACK STONE.
THIS MAY BE ONE OF THE ONES, UH, LIKE ON, UH, WILSON PI.
THE ONE, SEE, LET ME, THERE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE GRASS IN A MEDIAN.
YEAH, I THING CHARLES WAS SAYING.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THE GATEWAY SIGNS THAT AREN'T THAT AND THEY WOULD OH, OKAY.
I MEAN I JUST WONDERED IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO SHOW.
I'M GONNA GOOD FOR TAKING THAT OFF THE LIST.
I'M GONNA SKIP AHEAD AND IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, THIS IS THE, THE BASIC DESIGN OF WHAT THE CONSENSUS WAS.
AND IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, THE REST OF THE SLIDES HAVE VARIANCES OF THIS.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I THINK THE INTENTION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO IF NOT, AND IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT THE OTHERS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
BUT, UH, OTHERWISE LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE VARIATIONS HERE.
AND THIS, YOU SEE THE STACK STONE ALONG THE BOTTOM AND THE, THE TALLER COLUMN ON ONE SIDE YOU SEE THE, UH, THE INTERIOR SIGN, UH, WHICH ANN YOU MENTIONED, UH, WE SETTLED ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
COULD BE A FULL PIECE, COULD BE ARCHED OR IT COULD BE, I'LL CALL IT THAT.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE WOOD OR THE WOOD LOOK PIECE ACROSS THE TOP.
AND THEN, UH, THAT ONE AGAIN JUST HAS BRENTWOOD.
TENNESSEE DOESN'T HAVE WELCOME TWO.
IF YOU WANTED WELCOME TWO, THAT'S FINE.
BUT IT HAS BRENTWOOD, TENNESSEE IN THE BLUE AND THEN IT HAS THE CREST ON THE LEFT SIDE.
SO WE'LL SEE VARIATIONS WITH THE STACKED STONE HERE.
AND THE CREST COULD BE COLORED.
COULD BE, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD, YEAH, MAKE IT STAND OUT A LITTLE.
SO THAT THIS JUST PUTS THE CREST AS IT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE LARGE COLUMN, WHICH I THINK IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD ON THE LARGE COLUMN, BUT THAT'S IN THE EYES OF THE BEHOLDER.
I LIKE THE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? ASYMMETRY, CONTRAST, JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENCE IN COLOR SCHEME HERE.
THEY MOVE THE CREST BACK TO THE LEFT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BRIGHTER COLOR SCHEME FROM THAT ONE THAT'S A LITTLE DARKER.
THAT ONE'S PROBABLY, I'M ASSUMING THAT MORE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
THERE'S WITH THE CREST ON THE RIGHT.
UH, AND OF COURSE IS THE BLUE SIGN IN THE MIDDLE.
UH, DIDN'T WE ALREADY HIT THAT ONE? I THINK IT'S A DIFFERENT
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STONE.CAN WE GO BACK TO THE FIRST ONE AND SEE, 'CAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE, THE NAMES OF THE DIFFERENT, YEAH, THE VERY FIRST ONE.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS LIGHT AND THE NEXT ONE IS VANILLA.
SO YEAH, SO THERE ARE THREE, IT APPEARS TO BE THREE DIFFERENT STONE SHADES OR TYPES IN THERE.
THE WOOD, THE STONE, THE CURVED ARE JUST LIKE, THEY'RE THROWING EVERYTHING IN THE BOOK AT THIS ONE DESIGN TO ME.
BUT I, I LIKE SIMPLE LINES AND THINGS FOR STUFF LIKE THIS THAT ARE GONNA BE AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE TIMELESS THAT LAST 20 YEARS, HOPEFULLY AT LEAST.
IT'S JUST A LOT GOING ON WITH THAT ONE SIDE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY, I MEAN IS IT JUST ME OR IS IT ITSY LOOKING? IT'S A PREFERENCE THING, BUT IT, IT, IT'S ASYMMETRICAL GET THE, IT'S ASYMMETRICAL TO GET THE WOOD TO KINDA LAY IN THERE TO, IT'S DEFINITELY ASYMMETRICAL ISN'T IT.
MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ARCHITECTURAL, BUT IT'S, IT'S TOO MUCH IN ONE TO ME NOW.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A HUNDRED PEOPLE MAY DISAGREE COMPLETELY, BUT IT'S LIKE, LET'S TAKE A DAB AT THIS AND DAB AT THAT AND MAKE SURE WE COVER ALL OUR BASES AND PUT IT TOGETHER TO THAT.
AND IT'S HARD WHEN YOU SEE ALL THESE VARIANCES, THE VARIANCE IN THE MIDDLE SIGN AND THE LOCATION OF THE, UH, CREST AND ALSO THE TYPE OF STONE YOU'RE, AS WE FLIP THROUGH, THERE'S SO MANY VARIATIONS THEY ALL KIND OF JUMP ON YOU.
SO I, I KINDA LIKE THE CURVE 'CAUSE I THINK IT MAKES THIS SIGN STAND OUT A LITTLE BIT.
WELL THAT MIGHT BE BETTER IF THAT WOOD WAS GONE AT THE TOP.
IS THAT WOOD KIND OF A REFERENCE TO HORSE FENCING? SORT OF HORSE FENCING? I THINK IT WAS, WASN'T IT? I THINK MOTIF THAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE, JUST WHEN THEY PRESENTED A LOT OF THE INITIAL DESIGN OR WERE SEEKING FEEDBACK, THOSE WERE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WOOD, UH, THE STACK STONE WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WANTED.
NO HAVE, WILL THERE BE ANY LIGHTING ON THESE SUCH AS SOLAR LIGHTING? GOOD QUESTION.
I KNOW THERE, THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS OF WHAT THE LIGHTING AND WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO IN THOSE, UH, ON WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH SPACES THAT ARE CONTROLLED BY THE STATE.
UM, NOW IF IT WERE UP TO ME, MR. I WOULD PACK LIGHTS THE LETTERS WITH LAD SO YOU COULD REALLY SEE 'EM AT NIGHT.
BUT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THAT.
SO GENERALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME KIND OF UPWARD LIGHTING UP UP LIGHTING.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
YOU CAN SEE, AND, AND I, UH, CHARLES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL WHAT THE LIMITS ARE ON THE LIGHTING.
AGAIN, WE, IT DEPENDS WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.
THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG PART OF THIS.
I THINK MORE OF THE LARGER ONES LIKE THE WILSON PIKE, IT'S NOT WILSON PIKE.
UH, THE INTERSTATE WOULD HAVE MORE POTENTIAL FOR THAT THAN THE ONES WHERE THERE'S NOT AS MUCH.
UH, IS IT RIGHT AWAY? WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? CONCORD, GET IT OFF OF THE, UH, TODD KNOWS THE, THE CLEARANCE IS GREATER AT, AT CONCORD WHERE YOU CAN GET AWAY FROM THE EDGE OF THE ROAD RIGHT AWAY WITHIN THEIR CLEARANCE.
SO, AND IT'LL ALSO DICTATE TOO, GOING BACK TO YOUR WILSON PIKE, AND TODD KNOWS THIS MORE AS WELL, BUT UH, YOUR MATERIALS ON WILSON PIKE WON'T BE, THEY'LL BECAUSE OF THE CLEARANCE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, THOSE WILL HAVE TO BE LIKE A BREAKAWAY TYPE MATERIAL 'CAUSE OF ACCIDENTS STUFF.
AND STEVE, I DON'T REMEMBER, YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE YET WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AND THEY PASSED AROUND SOME MATERIALS, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES TO STONE THAT LOOK JUST LIKE STONE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FROM A MAINTENANCE OR REPLACEMENT PERSPECTIVE PRETTY EASY TO DEAL WITH.
THEY'RE, IT'S KIND OF FUNNY, THEY'RE KIND OF LIGHT AND FOAMY FEELING, SO IT'S SORT OF A DIFFERENT NUANCE IN YOU'RE HAVING YOUR HAND, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REALLY GOOD, UH, FOR THE PURPOSES THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT.
AND, AND THEN IT WORKS FOR THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS IN THE STATE RIGHT OF WAY TOO WHEN THEY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BREAKAWAY AND BEING LIGHTER, STONE ISN'T BREAKAWAY AND, AND THEY DON'T LIKE THAT.
SO IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS, WOULD THIS BE AN ACTUAL STONE OR WOULD THIS BE A VENEER? A VENEER OR VENEER STONE.
THE, THE STUFF THEY'RE SHOWING THE BROAD WAS ALMOST LIKE A TILE WITH THE STONE VENEER ATTACHED TO IT.
OFF THE INTERSTATE IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO STONE.
I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, UH, BUT WILSON PIKE, BECAUSE THAT'S AT TDOT ROAD.
IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE CLEARANCE.
THE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FOOTAGE BECAUSE THE LANES ARE SO CLOSE IN THAT MEDIAN, BUT CONCORD YEAH.
HAS MORE RIGHT OF WAY CLEARANCE THAT THE, I THINK IT'S, I CAN MAYBE ANSWER BUT 50 FEET, I THINK I REMEMBER SOMETHING OR SO THE CARS AREN'T, SO IT'S NOT CLOSE TO THE ROAD CAN BE A DIFFERENT MATERIAL.
SO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE LETTERING, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC FONT, BUT I KNOW THAT ALL THE LETTERING ON THE, THE GENERAL MOTORS AUTOMOTIVE
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DEALERSHIPS ARE SET UP SO THEY LOOK BLACK DURING THE DAY AND THEY LOOK BACK LIT WHITE AT NIGHT.AND SO THEY'VE GOT TECHNOLOGY WHERE THE, THE, THERE'S A LENS BACK THERE NOW.
IT REQUIRES POWER
UM, BUT THEY'RE, THERE IS TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE CERTAINLY.
AND IT'S BEEN OUT FOR DECADE AND A HALF IF NOT MORE.
THAT JUST LETS YOU HAVE A LENS THAT LOOKS DARK DURING THE DAY AND LIGHT AT NIGHT.
THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, IS LETTING INSIDE IT.
I, I, YEAH, MY THOUGHT HAS ALWAYS BEEN BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THE SIGNS, YOU WANT 'EM BE SEEN IN DAY AND NIGHT.
SO TO THE GREATEST DEGREE THAT THE TDOT WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT, UH, PROPERLY.
WE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN SEE THE LETTERING, ESPECIALLY ON THE ONE ON THE OFF RAMP.
WOULDN'T THEY ALLOW SOLAR? I MEAN THAT'S NOT, I I DON'T I THINK IT'S THE LIGHTING.
I DON'T THINK THEY CARE ABOUT THE POWER SOURCE AS MUCH AS THE LIGHTING ITSELF.
LIGHTING I BELIEVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON REFLECTIVENESS TOO FOR THESE TYPES OF SIGNS.
YOU TALKING ABOUT TT DOCKET NOT CARING OR CARING ABOUT THAT? MM-HMM
GO THROUGH AND SEE SOME MORE VARIATIONS HERE.
SO THERE'S YOUR LIGHTER STONE WITH THE BLUE, UM, AND THE CREST, THAT'S THE SAME.
SO IT GIVES YOU A, A LOOK OF THE GLUE I GUESS MIGHT, MIGHT OPINION CREST MOVING IS IF WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THE ASYMMETRICAL SIGNS, UM, I MEAN IF THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDE, THE CREST LOOKS BETTER ON THE TALLER ONE 'CAUSE IT GIVES YOU A REASON.
TO HAVE THE TALLER ONE
I IF WE'RE REST ON THE RIGHT IF NOTE THAT CHARLES ON THE RIGHT.
IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT, LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A BLUE, BLUE TRIM AROUND THAT INSIDE.
I DIDN'T THINK THE OTHERS DID.
NO, THAT ONE DID TOO, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRIM OR IF THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEY DEFINE THE EDGE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.
I WONDER IF THAT, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NATURAL STACKED AND THE VANILLA BEAN.
'CAUSE THE LIGHT STACK JUST KIND OF LOOKS YELLOW.
AND WHEN WE ACTUALLY SEE THE MATERIALS TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
THE, IF YOU GO WITH THE LIGHT STACK, YOU GET MORE BENEFIT FROM THE BLUE SIGN, VICE VERSA PROBABLY VERSUS THAT WHERE THEY FADE INTO EACH OTHER A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO THE CONTRAST ISN'T QUITE THERE.
SO IT MAY DEPEND ON WHAT'S YOUR MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF IT.
IS IT THE MIDDLE SIGN THAT SAYS BRENTWOOD TENNESSEE OR IS IT THE COLOR OF YOUR STONE? 'CAUSE ONE MIGHT HELP YOU DICTATE THE OTHER.
THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR AS I'M GOING INTO THE ARTISTIC PART FOR YOU
YEAH, I MEAN WE COULD, IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS THOUGH.
I'VE RAILED AGAINST THE ONE ON WILSON PIPE FOR 20 YEARS.
SO I DON'T LIKE THE REASON TO GO ON.
SO, SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND COVER SOME THINGS HERE AND SEE WHERE THE CONSENSUS IS.
I THINK IS THERE A CONSENSUS WITH THIS GROUP KIND OF COMING FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT THE SHAPE OF THE SIGN AND USING STACKED STONE, NOT NECESSARILY THE COLOR YET, BUT THE SHAPE OF THE SIGN AND THE STACKED STONE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU LIKE, THAT YOU LIKE THAT GENERAL WHERE THERE IS AN OFFSET? SHOW OF HANDS.
AND WE DID AT THE LAST MEETING WE, OR THE MEETING THEY SHOWED THOSE.
WE DID, THEY SHOWED THE ONES WITH THE FULL ARCH AND NOT THE HALF ARCH AND IT JUST, WELL I DON'T, IT DIDN'T LOOK ARCH AT ALL.
I JUST THINK THAT'S, WELL YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK I'M JUST NOT VOTING FOR THIS.
I GO WITH THE MAJORITY ALWAYS THEY WIN, BUT I DON'T LIKE IT.
SO I GOT A QUESTION OUTTA LEFT FIELD HERE.
ARE WE CREATING A ROOSTING PERCH FOR BIRDS ON TOP OF THAT SIGN? COULD BE.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT UH, NO MORE THAN USUAL.
NO, I WAS GONNA SAY WITH THE SIGNS MEAN'S A LITTLE BABY SPIKE YOU CAN BARELY SEE.
KEEPS THEM FROM RIGHT NOW AND UP IN, UH, IN, WELL JUST A FEW BLOCKS FROM HERE.
DO WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE BIRDS? WE'VE NOT BEEN CALLED UP THERE TO CLEAN 'EM.
I DON'T KNOW AN HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE CAPSTONES OR NOT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ENOUGH TRAFFIC THAT NOW THIS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, IN THE LOOP AT THE INTERSTATE.
I'M NOT, I MEAN I DON'T, IT'S JUST UNPREDICTABLE.
SO WE HAVEN'T TO OUR KNOWLEDGE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE BIRDS WITH CURRENT, UH, STONE SIGNS.
BUT AGAIN, I CAN'T THINK LIKE A BIRD.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY, IF THEY LIKE THE BROWN COLOR OF ON YOU CAN DO IT.
BUT, UH, SO THEY DO HAVE THOSE ANTI PERCHED CARS AND SMALL COLORS.
YOU EVER HEARD OF BIRD GOO BIRD GO, IT'S LIKE CAULK THAT DOESN'T SET WHEN THEY LAND ON IT, IT'S STICKY AND THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T LAND THERE.
WOULDN'T THEY JUST STICK IF THEY LAND ON IT?
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TOO MUCH BIRD TOO MUCH BIRD GO.THEY, THEY'RE STARTING TO TEXT IT.
THEY'RE LIKE POST-ITS, I GUESS THERE'S JUST A LITTLE STICKINESS RIGHT? FOR ON TOP OF MAILBOXES.
THEY DO MAKE THE LITTLE LIKE A GRAY TYPE THING THAT THEY THEY DO.
AND UH, THE, IN THE ENTRANCE TO, UM, TO BRI HAVEN FROM, UH, FROM MOORE'S LANE, THAT SIGN RIGHT THERE GOT SOME PRETTY SEVERE SPIKES ON IT.
THEY, THEY HAD A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH IT.
SO CAN WE GO BACK TO THE VERY FIRST ONE WHERE THE BACKGROUND WASN'T GRAY, IT WAS MORE TANNED? NO, I, I'M TOO IS THAT THE FIRST ONE? THAT'S THE FIRST ONE IN THIS STYLE? YEAH, THERE'S STILL, OH YEAH.
AND THE BUT THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU SHOWED US AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, OH, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
'CAUSE THE, THE BACKGROUND HAS CHANGED FROM TANS AND GRAY RIGHT THERE.
YEAH, BUT I MEANT THE BACKGROUND OF BEHIND BRENTWOOD.
THAT'S, IS THAT AS GRAY AS THE OTHER ONES? NO, BECAUSE THE ONE, SO THE BEHIND THE BRENTWOOD TENNESSEE LETTERS.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE LIGHTER COLOR.
AND THAT'S THE LIGHT ON LIGHT.
AND THEN THEY SWITCHED TO GRAY.
AND THE OTHER ONES I, YEAH, I WENT BACK THROUGH 'EM AGAIN HERE.
SO I LIKE THIS BETTER THAN GREAT.
BUT I AM CURIOUS IF THE SIGN, IF IT, IF THERE IS AN OUTLINE OR IF IT'S JUST BECAUSE LIKE YOU WERE SAYING IT SET JUST FOR THE DRAWING.
YEAH, THERE'S SOME KIND OF OUTLINE.
DO ONE MORE CLICK JASON D NINE.
SO SO THE VANILLA THERE, THERE, THERE YOU GO.
WHERE YOU GO TO A, THAT'S NOT DIFFERENT STONE AND A DIFFERENT COLOR SIGN.
BUT THE ME THE KIND OF THE MEDIUM COLORED STONE, COULD WE PUT THAT TAN BACKGROUND ON THE, THE VANILLA OR THE NATURAL STACK? BECAUSE I, I LIKE THE TAN BETTER THAN THE GRATES MEAT GRAY JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE POURED CONCRETE DOWN.
SO LIKE THE TAN ON THIS ONE, ON THE, THAT STONE? NO, THE SO THAT, NO, I MEANT THE BACKGROUND COLOR, NOT THE STONE COLOR.
SO THAT'S, SO THAT'S THE LIGHT STACKED GRAN YOU MEANS YOU'RE SO THE BACKGROUND BEHIND THE LETTER, SEE IF IT'S CHANGING FROM TAN TO GRAY.
DID WE HAVE ONE THAT SAID VANILLA B NINE IS WHERE YOU WERE.
NOT THAT I LIKE ARE THERE REAL LIFE EXAMPLES OF THESE COLORS? LIKE IN DIFFERENT SIGNS? I KNOW IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE THIS BUT IT ARE THERE LIKE PHOTOGRAPHS OF SIGNS? I COULD TRY TO FIND SOME.
I THINK, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT COLOR IT'S, BUT I THINK BRENTWOOD ACADEMY HAS A BRAND NEW SIGN, UHHUH THAT HAS A LOT OF THESE ELEMENTS TO IT.
BUT I'D HAVE TO, THEY'D HAVE A CHARLES WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE THIS STAGE YEAH.
TO TAKE, TAKE A COUPLE OF THESE VARIATIONS.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED ALL OF THEM.
AND UH, HAVE THEM SHOW THEM IN FRONT OF WHERE A LOCATION MIGHT ACTUALLY BE SO THEY CAN GET AN IDEA.
SO I THINK THAT'LL HELP YOU TO REALLY PLACE IT MM-HMM
AND AM I RIGHT? I THINKING LIKE WE, WE'VE AGREED ON THE FONTS, RIGHT? THAT WE'RE OKAY ON HAVING THE FONTS AGREED ON THE FONT.
FONT AND THE, THE OFFSET COLUMNS.
SO, AND THE LOGO ON, ON A BIG COLUMN.
NOW IN TERMS OF LIKE, I I, YOU KNOW, BACK DAN'S POINT, I MEAN MY, MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND I'VE SEEN SO MANY VERY COMPLICATED THINGS.
I ACTUALLY DON'T FIND THIS VERY COMPLICATED.
SO I KINDA LIKE WHERE STEVE, WHERE I'M SEEING THE HORSE FENCE NOW IN TERMS OF THE WAY IT'S DONE, I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT ATTACHES DIFFERENTLY RIGHT TO LEFT.
'CAUSE 'CAUSE IT FEELS LIKE IT KIND OF INTEGRATES NICELY.
I LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A HORIZON ON THE SIGN A LOT BETTER THAN I LIKE, LIKE A FULL ARCH, YOU KNOW, WHERE, UM, SO GENERALLY SPEAKING FOR, FOR ME, I THINK THERE'S SOME ELEMENTS I REALLY LIKE ON THIS.
AND, AND IN TERMS OF SEEING THE ACTUAL COLORS MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY, I KNOW FROM A LOT OF EXPERIENCE THE PICKING COLORS BASED ON A POWERPOINT IS A BAD IDEA BECAUSE IT CAN CHANGE A LOT BASED ON YOUR WALL, YOUR SCREEN, YOUR PROJECTOR AND YOUR LIGHTING.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT IF WE HAVE A GENERAL IDEA IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT BLUE OR NOT BLUE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE QUESTION FOR THE BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE STONE THOUGH.
AND ONCE WE KNOW BLUE, THEN NOT BLUE, THEN MATCHING THE STONE AND STUFF TO ACTUAL COLOR SAMPLES PROBABLY BE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.
BUT DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? YEAH, NO, I, I THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE COULD DO, COULD WE PUT THE THREE OR FOUR ON ONE SLIDE THAT WE LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO YOU KIND OF IDEA.
I AGREE WITH WHAT NELSON SAYS.
I THINK YOU, IS THERE A SHEEN TO ANY OF THIS? I MEAN IS IT GONNA BE MATT OR IS IT A SHEEN THAT YOU CAN'T TELL FROM THIS? THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT GETTING A PICTURE OF PHOTOGRAPH AND THE LETTERING.
IS IT SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MAKE THIS, BUT IS IT LIKE BAKED INTO THE SIGN OR WILL IT BE PAINTED? HOW IS THE LETTERING ADDED OR WILL IT BE MOUNTED EVEN? I BELIEVE THAT'S AN ADHERED LETTERING.
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THREE DIMENSIONAL AND IT'S ADHERED.IT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION ABOUT THE SHEEN ON THE SIGN ITSELF AND ALSO ON THE WOOD PIECE.
AND EVEN, BECAUSE EVEN IF THE OUTLINE IS THERE OR NOT, HOW DOES IT FINISH AND YOU KNOW? YEAH.
AND COULD THEY FULLY CONSTRUCT ABOUT THREE OF THESE AND BRING IN THAT'D BE GREAT.
WE'LL DO A ROAD SHOW OF LIKE A MEMORIAL WALL.
WE COULD JUST DO MINIATURE ONES.
DID YOU SAY COLORED LOGO? WHAT'S THAT? YOU WANT THE LOGO WITH, WITH THE CRAFT? DO YOU WANT IT TO BE COLORED COLOR? YEAH, COLORED CRAFT.
AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE TOO, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.
IF YOU, IF YOU CHOOSE THE BLUE LARGER MIDDLE SIGN SAYS BRENTWOOD, TENNESSEE, DO YOU STILL WANT THE COLORED CREST, YOUR COLORED CREST? EITHER WAY I WOULD LET PUT IT THAT WAY.
LOOKS ALL OF THE CITY RIGHT NOW BUSY.
YOU WANT THE CREST ON THE, ON THE JUST WENT BLANK.
IT'S LIKE THE, AND I HAVE THAT PULLED UP OFF OF GOOGLE IMAGE IF YOU JUST WANT TO TAKE A LOOK.
BUT THAT'S THE GRAY REAL STONE WITH THE CREST WITHOUT ANY COLOR.
SO IT DOES ALL KIND OF RUN TOGETHER.
HE'S GOT A CAPSTONE AND IT DOES KIND OF DISCOLOR WITH THE, WITHOUT ANY COLORING IN IT.
BUT YOU CAN GO BY THERE OR PULL IT UP ON YOUR IMAGES AND THIS TYPE OR SOMETHING.
IS THAT WOOD ACROSS THE TOP? IT'S A WOOD LOOK.
IT PROBABLY WILL NOT SAY WOOD BECAUSE OF DURABILITY.
SO THE, UH, IN, IN A SIGN, DEPENDING ON YOUR STONE COLOR, PROBABLY DOESN'T MATTER.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE COLORED CREST AND THE INSIDE BRENTWOOD TENNESSEE LARGE SIGN PORTION, THE ACTUAL SIGN PORTION, UH, AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S LIGHT.
I THINK YOUR COLORED CREST IS GONNA LOOK VERY GOOD OR IT'S GONNA LOOK REALLY GOOD.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THE BLUE, I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF BLUE, IF THE BLUE SIGN IS STILL OUT THERE, IF IT IS THE COLORED CREST BEING HAVING THE BLUE, AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT.
WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE A COMMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SHOW YOU.
THERE CAN, CAN WE MAKE A DECISION TODAY ABOUT THE BACKGROUND, WHETHER IT'S BLUE, TAN, OR GRAY? I LIKE THE TAN.
I I LIKE THE, I'M, I'M IN FOR THE TAN NOW.
EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THE, WITH THE PRIMARY SIGN PIECE THAT BASICALLY THAT SHADE.
DO YOU LIKE THE COLOR? I LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I LOVE OUR RED, WHITE, AND BLUE.
'CAUSE THEN THE COLORED CREST WILL REALLY, IT'LL GIVE YOU A POP ON THE COLUMN.
CI KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE LETTERING.
AND JAY YOU MAY KNOW OR CHARLES, THE, THE LETTERING IS 3D WHERE IT'S ADHERED ON THERE.
SO I'M GUESSING THE CREST IS LIKE A SEPARATE MADE PIECE THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE SIGN.
SO THAT WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS WITH SOME SORT OF VERY DURABLE BAKED ON SURFACE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK SO BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE THE COLORED CREST IS ONLY GONNA LOOK AS GOOD AS THE, AS THE, I GUESS THE QUALITY, THE CREST.
AND IF WE MAKE SURE IT'S ADHERED IN THE WAY THAT IT DOES NOT END UP IN ANY DORM ROOMS OR OTHER PLACES.
WE PUT ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEDIAN.
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN ON THE SIDE OF A ROAD.
HE, WHEN HE, PART OF THE HARD PART IS, IS THE MEDIAN.
SOME OF THE MEDIANS ARE SO SMALL YOU WILL NOT HAVE THIS.
THEY'LL HAVE TO ACTUALLY DESIGN A VARIATION TO THIS WITH SORT OF THE MATERIAL AND LOOK.
AND I THINK AFTER WE CAN GET CONSENSUS ON THE BIG SIGN WITH THE NEXT PIECE OF HOMEWORK, THAT'S GONNA BE TO GIVE US THE SMALLER VERSIONS.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYONE LIKES ANY OF THE SMALLER VERSION VERSIONS.
WE CAN EXPECT DIFFERENT SIZING OF THIS.
EITHER SIZING OR SOME DIFFERENCE IN DESIGN THAT'LL FIT IN THE SPACE.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS RIGHT NOW ON EVERY ASPECT OF IT, BUT THE SHADE OF THE STACKED STONE, THAT MIGHT BE ONE WHERE IT'S GOOD NOW THAT WE HAVE ALL THE OTHER PIECES ARE STATIC TO BRING BACK WITH THE TWO OR THREE SHADES OF STACKED STONE IN A PICTURE.
AND THEN YOU COULD LOOK AT IT WITH THE DIFFERENT SHADES OF STACKED STONES.
SO THIS IS THE LIGHTER STACKED STONE.
BOTH LIGHTER AND MEDIUM LOOK PRETTY GOOD.
DEPENDS ON COLOR CONTRAST AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND THEN THERE'S THE MORE, THE LITTLE BIT GRAYER.
SO SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE CONSENSUS ON EVERY PIECE, BUT THE SHADE OF THE STACKED STONE.
SO THAT MEANS IT COULD GIVE YOU OPTIONS WITH THE THREE SHADES OF THE STACKED STONE.
EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE STATIC.
YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
WELL, AND AND IF THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY, IF IT'S NOT NOT TOO EGREGIOUS TO BRING IN ACTUAL SAMPLES OF MATERIALS LIKE WE YEAH.
BRING DOING THE RENOVATION, WE JUST SORT SIT 'EM DOWN SO WE SEE 'EM MM-HMM
SEE THE SHEEN THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, ALL THE GATHERING.
AND OF COURSE I'D LET THE DESIGNERS RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE FEEDBACK, SAYING OKAY.
KNOWING THAT WHAT THEY RECOMMEND FOR A COMBINATION OF MATERIALS AND FINISHES AND WE'LL PROVIDE IT ON ONE PAGE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
OR AT LEAST AT LEAST ONE WOMAN HAS THAT.
SO YOU CAN SEE 'EM SIDE BY SIDE.
COULD YOU GIVE US A LIST AGAIN OF THE LOCATIONS?
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YES MA'AM.SO THERE'S THE EXIT ONTO CONCORD ROAD, WHICH WILSON PIKE? UH, NEAR MCEWEN.
THERE'S THE FRANKLIN AND FRANKLIN ROAD END.
CONCORD BY, NO, THERE'S ALL THE LARGE AREAS REALLY, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S, I KNOW THERE'S A LITTLE SMALL SIGN ON MOORE'S LANE, MALLORY AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
I BELIEVE IT'S A LITTLE BITTY.
THOSE SIGNS ARE LITTLE AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO POLES AND THEY REALLY STAND OUT.
THERE'S, BUT THAT'S A SMALL SIGN LOCATION.
WE HAD FOUR ORIGINALLY FOR THE PROJECT, UH, IDENTIFIED.
THEY'RE GONNA BE TWO AT CONCORD AT 65.
ONE FOR PEOPLE EXITING NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND ONE EACH.
I BELIEVE WE JUST HAD ONE, BUT COMING INTO THE, COMING IN FROM NASHVILLE.
AS YOU COME IN ONTO CONCORD, IT WON'T BE ACCORDING TO THEM IT WILL.
WE DON'T WANT ONE COMING THE OTHER WAY.
BUT IF YOU'RE COMING, IF YOU'RE COMING NORTHBOUND FROM FRANKLIN NORTHBOUND, YOU EXIT TO GET ON.
AT T AND YOU EXIT AT CONCORD ROAD.
WELL YOU'RE ALREADY IN BRENTWOOD WHEN YOU GET TO MORRISS LANE.
BUT THERE WON'T BE ONE AT YEAH, THERE'S NOT ONE AT MOORES THAN 65 THOUGH.
BUT SAME TRUE AS WHEN OH, HICKORY BOULEVARD.
I DON'T, WHY DO WE NEED ONE AT CONCORD ROAD? THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS WE'VE THERE.
WE'LL, WE'LL BRING BACK, WE'LL WE'LL FOLLOW UP AND BRING A MAP AND YOU'LL SEE ALL THE LOCATIONS TOGETHER.
TALK THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY.
WE DON'T NEED A GATEWAY SIGN IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.
THE ONE I'M THINKING OF THAT I'VE SEEN IS, UH, IT JUST, IT'S REALLY JUST A LITTLE WELCOME TO BRENTWOOD SIGN.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT HAS A DISTANCE THING ON IT.
IT MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
THEY WERE, THEY WERE DESIGNED TO MATCH THE WAYFINDER COLORS.
THEY SAY WELCOME TO BRENTWOOD.
SORRY, BRENTWOOD CITY LIMITS ON, ON MARIE LANE IN THE MIDDLE OF LIKE, ONCE YOU PASS THE HILL IT'LL SAY BRENTWOOD 0.3, WHATEVER.
AND IT'S JUST TO, I THINK TO DISTINGUISH THAT THAT'S THE CITY ROAD AND THAT'S THE COUNTY ROAD BECAUSE OH YEAH.
AND THAT'S, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE WELCOME TO BRENTWOOD.
IT'S JUST KIND OF TO NOTIFY PEOPLE.
THE CITY LIMITS ARE REALLY FUNKY THERE.
AND, AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE IF I GO SOUTH ON MALLORY, THERE'S A GENTLEMAN THERE WITH A SIGN AT LEAST EVERY WEEKEND PRETTY WELL.
AND I THINK IT'S FOR MATTRESSES.
AND I CHECKED AND I BELIEVE IT'S JUST OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS.
BUT I CAN'T DO IT ON BEHALF OF FRANK.
NO, THANK HE'S LAUGHING AT YOU WHILE HE'S SPINNING HIS, I'LL BRING HIM BACK AT PINPOINT WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR THE PROJECT AND YEAH, LIKE UNCLE RUTH, WHEN YOU'RE LEAVING FRANKLIN AND YOU HIT BRENT, THEY'VE JUST GOT THAT NICE LITTLE SIGN THAT SAYS BRENT WITH CITY LIMITS.
UM, COMMISSIONER DONAHUE, THERE MAY BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THE CONCORD INTERCHANGE THAT COMING OFF, YOU'VE GOT THE LONG RAMP THAT TAKES YOU TO CONCORD.
AND SO YOU GOT THE SIGN TO THE LEFT.
WHY WE DON'T HAVE ONE ON THE WRAPAROUND.
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GO UNDER THE UNDERPASS AND YOU COME BACK AROUND.
I MEAN, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING OFF OF 65 ONTO THE SAME ROAD IN BRENTWOOD.
WHY WE WOULDN'T HAVE ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE? I DON'T KNOW.
BUT DO YOU NEED A GATEWAY ONE THERE? WELL, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
HUH? WE'VE ALREADY GOT ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
IT'S ALREADY, I DON'T REMEMBER IT.
WHEN YOU'RE ON, WELL IT'S, MAYBE YOU SEE IT SO OFTEN.
IT'S ALSO NOT THAT EASY TO SEE 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S OFF A LITTLE BIT TIME AND IT'S OLD AND THERE WAS SOME SHRUGS AROUND IT, BUT SO IT WAS TO THE LEFT.
UH, BUT WITH THE WRAPAROUND, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D PUT IT ON THE RIGHT OR PUT IT ON THE LEFT, BUT THERE'S NOT ONE THERE AND RIGHT.
NO, THEY, AT THESE INTERSTATE INTERCHANGES, IS IT A GOOD IDEA TO PUT UP? SOUNDS LIKE THIS.
'CAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS EXPANDING THEIR, THEIR, THEIR LANES AND STUFF THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT IS PRETTY MUCH IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT CIRCLE.
BUT DO YOU SEE IT? IT'S IT'S PRETTY FAR OFF.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN IS THAT'S THE PURPOSE.
SOMETIMES I, I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GET CARRIED AWAY WITH, WITH PUTTING THEM UP EVERYWHERE WHEN SIMPLER ONES CAN BE USED.
USED I THINK THE FOUR OR FIVE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I, I DO THINK, WE'LL, WE'LL BRING BACK A MAP THAT SHOWS YOU EVERY PLACE WE HAVE ASSIGNED TODAY, WE HAVE EVERY PLACE.
AND THEN, UH, THAT'LL ALLOW YOU TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
ALSO, I THINK WHEN YOU GET FAR ENOUGH ALONG IN THIS PROCESS AND YOU FIND OUT HOW MUCH THESE ARE REALLY GONNA COST, IT MIGHT HELP YOU DECIDE HOW MANY YOU WOULD LIKE AS WELL.
'CAUSE UH, THEY TYPICALLY END UP MORE EXPENSIVE THAN YOU THINK THEY ARE.
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MAY DECIDE THAT'S OKAY.WE, THESE ARE THE KEY LOCATIONS.
YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO HAVE ONE THERE NECESSARILY, BUT YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION WHEN WE GET THERE.
NELSON'S DAD WAS ONE THAT LED THE FIGHT TO CLEAN UP THE ENTRANCE OFF OF INTERSTATE OLD HICKORY BOULEVARD.
EVEN IT WAS OUTSIDE THE FRONT WOOD.
WE PARTICIPATED TO BEAUTIFY IT BECAUSE IT WAS HORRIBLE LOOKING.
AND IT CERTAINLY HELPED FOR THE LANDSCAPING AND THAT SORT.
JUST TO, SO WILL, I THINK WE HAVE OUR HOMEWORK AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
UM, JUST A REAL QUICK TOO, UH, KIND OF AN UPDATE.
UH, WE, UH, THE MAYOR'S TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UH, LOOKING AT OUR CELL TOWER ORDINANCE.
AND REALLY IT COMES BACK TO, UM, REALLY HAVING THESE LARGE, UM, AREA GAPS OF COVERAGE ON THE PARTICULAR, ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
AND THE MORE WE TALK ABOUT IT, THE MORE WE HEAR ABOUT IT.
UM, AND I WAS SPEAKING WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND, AND MOBILE DATA TERMINALS, AND THEY, THERE ARE SOME AREAS THEY GET GAPS FOR THAT.
UM, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU RELY ON A PHONE, UH, A MOBILE PHONE FOR NINE ONE ONE AND AND NONE OF THE CARRIERS HAVE COVERAGE THERE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A GAP FOR THAT.
YOU MAY STILL HAVE TO HAVE A LANDLINE.
UH, THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THIS COVERAGE IS SPOTTY.
I CAN BE LITERALLY IN MY GARAGE.
I WAS, UH, TWO DIFFERENT CALLS ONE TIME IN MY GARAGE, ONE TIME OUT IN MY DRIVEWAY.
I CAN BE IN A CERTAIN LOCATION AND TALK.
I CAN TAKE THREE STEPS A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, AND I LOSE IT.
SO WE HAVE THE, THE SORT OF THE INCONSISTENT AREAS AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME MAJOR GAPS ON THE EAST SIDE, AND THAT'S ONE REASON WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, WHY IS THAT? WHY ARE THE CARRIERS NOT PUTTING, GIVING US THE SERVICE WE NEED? AND, UH, IT'S KIND OF GONE AWAY.
I THINK BACK ORIGINALLY WHEN YOU STARTED TO SEE CELL, MORE CELL TOWERS, UH, AND YOU STARTED TO SEE THE ORDINANCES COME UP, YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO, MOST COMMUNITIES WANTED TO BALANCE THE AESTHETIC, BUT HONESTLY, THE MOBILE PHONE WAS A LUXURY AT THE TIME.
IT'S NOT ANYMORE WHEN WE ALL CARRY 'EM EVERYWHERE WE GO AND WE RELY ON 'EM FOR EVERYTHING, ACTUALLY FOR DATA AND FOR PHONE COVERAGE.
UM, SO IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A NECESSITY.
WE DON'T LOOK AT 'EM LIKE A UTILITY PER SE, LIKE A WATER OR WASTEWATER, BUT UH, UH, IT IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT AS FAR AS, UH, THE EXPECTATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.
SO THE WHOLE OBJECTIVE IS TO REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT IS, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT WHERE WE CAN GET THE, ALLOW THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO COME IN AND, AND FILL THOSE GAPS AND GIVE THAT RELIABLE COVERAGE, RIGHT? AND YET NOT OVERLY COMPROMISE THE BALANCE, WHICH IS AESTHETIC AND LOCATION AND SAFETY AND TRY TO MAKE, SEE IF WE CAN FIND A SWEET SPOT FOR THAT.
BUT IT WILL IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, TAKE A, UH, UH, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, IT'LL TAKE AN ORDINANCE, CHANGE YOUR PROCESS FOR, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN YOUR ZONING CODE WOULD BE, UH, FOR ONCE THERE'S A DRAFT AND WHEN STAFF WILL BE WORKING ON THAT, GO THROUGH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
YOU KNOW, THEY'LL HAVE TIME TO, TO PLAY WITH IT, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
EVENTUALLY THAT TEXT AMENDMENT WILL GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR YOU TO MAKE A DECISION ON ONCE THAT'S CHANGED OR WHETHER IT IS OR IT ISN'T, WHATEVER THE OUTCOME IS OF THAT.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE APPLICATION PROCESS ON AN APPLICATION FOR A MOBILE TOWER, CELLULAR TOWER, UM, THAT IS A PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION IN YOUR ZONING CODE.
SO YOUR INVOLVEMENT WILL BE PRIMARILY WITH ANY CHANGE IN THE CODE.
AND, BUT, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO APPROVAL OF AN ACTUAL SITE LOCATION BASED ON AN APPLICATION, THAT'S A PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION.
AND IT'S PARTIALLY GOVERNED ALSO BY A FEDERAL SHOCK CLOCK AT THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO YOU CAN'T, WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, WE'RE APPLYING TO PUT SOMETHING HERE, YOU CAN'T GO ON FOREVER WITH IT.
AT SOME POINT IT'S DETERMINED AS APPROVED IF A DECISION ISN'T MADE IN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, SOME CITIES DID SPEND, YOU KNOW, COULD BE A YEAR, TWO YEARS TRYING TO, TO WORK WITH THEM.
AND AT SOME POINT FOLKS SAID, HEY, THAT'S, THAT'S A BURDEN TO THE INDUSTRY.
AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAID, YEAH, YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
AND SO, SO WHATEVER WE DO, WE HAVE TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT DECISION CAN REASONABLY BE MADE IN THAT TIME AS WELL.
SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN UPDATE AS TO WHERE WE ARE.
WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THE CARRIERS, WITH THE, THE, THE FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY PUT THE TOWERS IN.
THEY, THEY'RE A WEALTH OF INFORMATION OPTIONS OF WHAT YOU CAN DO.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED THAT, UH, IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY COMMON KNOWLEDGE NOW IN SOME AREAS IS THAT YOU HAVE THOSE LATTICE TOWERS.
THOSE ARE THE ONES WITH THAT, THAT, THAT LOOK LIKE A LITTLE KIND OF LITTLE, THEY COME UP LIKE THIS AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STEEL THAT CRISSCROSSES AND ALL OF THAT.
THE INDUSTRIES FOR THE MOST PART GONE AWAY FROM THAT, AT LEAST IN A LOT OF, UH, UH, APPLICATIONS WITHIN A COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERED UNSIGHTLY COMPARED TO OTHER TOWERS.
SO YOU SEE A MONOPOLE, WHICH IS THE LARGE, UH, STEEL POLE THAT GOES UP, UM, A LOT OF TIMES, MOST OF THE TIME YOU'LL SEE NOW THE WIRES INSIDE OF IT RATHER THAN OUTSIDE OF IT.
THE ANTENNAS ARE MORE ON THE TOP AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE CAMOUFLAGED IF IT'S A FORESTED AREA.
UH, AND, AND YOU CAN'T FIND A PLACE INSIDE A BUILDING.
AND, AND THE ELEVATION, THE HEIGHT IS REALLY IMPORTANT SO THAT THE SIGNAL CAN GET OUT THERE TO, TO PROVIDE THE COVERAGE.
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TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL.CAMOUFLAGING HAS KIND OF COME A LONG WAY AS WELL.
NOW THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THOSE IS YOU THINK ABOUT THE FALL AREA, PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER TALL THAT IT'S GONNA FALL.
AND YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AREA, NOW THEY'RE MADE TO HAVE WHAT I CALL PINCH POINTS.
IN ESSENCE, IT'S ENGINEERED POINTS TO WHERE THEY WOULD JUST KIND OF CURL BACK ON THEMSELVES LIKE THAT.
SO IT CHANGES THAT AND THERE'S GOOD GUIDANCE OUT THERE AS TO HOW YOU WOULD SPECIFY AROUND THAT.
OUR ORDINANCE DIDN'T TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO THERE'S SOME THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT I THINK WOULD NEED TO BE UPDATED.
SO, WELL, OUR CHANGE IN OUR ORDINANCE.
SO WILL IT FOLLOW THAT? WE'LL GET MORE, ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO ACTIVELY TRY TO RECRUIT PEOPLE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WORK THEM TO GET 'EM TO PUT SOME THERE.
SO, SO, SO TWO THINGS TO KIND OF KEEP IN MIND.
AND JASON KINDA WALKED UP TO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR A WHILE ABOUT HOW BAD THE COVERAGE IS.
WELL, UNFORTUNATELY WE FOUND OUT THAT SOME OF OUR, WELL, SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT COVERS BRENTWOOD IS INSTALLED ON A WATER TOWER IN THE NOLANSVILLE WATER DISTRICT.
AND NOLANSVILLE IS CHANGING THE TOWER.
THEY'RE DOING, OR A WATER TOWER UPGRADE, AND THE NEW ONE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR EQUIPMENT.
SO OUR ALREADY BAD COVERAGE IS GETTING READY TO GET CONSIDERABLY WORSE.
AND SO PART OF WHAT DROVE THAT THIS SUMMER IS, UH, THE CITY STAFF WAS CONTACTED BY VERIZON, UM, THE, THE, THE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS PERSON FOR VERIZON LIVES HERE IN BRENTWOOD.
AND IT WAS VERIFIED BY AT T AS WELL THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING READY TO LOSE A BUNCH OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND WE NEED A NEW LOCATION.
AND THEY'VE GOT SOME TEMPORARY PLANS, YOU KNOW, MORE LIKE HOW THEY HANDLE A TITANS GAME OR STEEPLECHASE, BUT IT IS NOT DESIGNED TO RUN HALF A CITY.
YOU KNOW, SO, SO WE'VE GOT SOME URGENCY BEHIND THIS BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE TO THE, TO THE LOCATION THAT'S CURRENTLY IN, IN THE KNOWLEDGEABLE WATER DISTRICT.
SO THAT, THAT GIVES SOME URGENCY TO THIS.
BUT ALSO, LIKE HE'S SAYING ABOUT OUR ORDINANCE, THE LAST TIME WE, WE LOOKED AT OUR CELL PHONE TOWER ORDINANCE WAS 25 YEARS AGO.
AND I THINK IT'S PRETTY FAIR TO SAY THE TECHNOLOGY'S COME AWAY IN THE PAST 25 YEARS.
SO WE, WE'VE GOT, JUST THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING IS THAT THEY WOULD CHEERFULLY IMPROVE THE COVERAGE IF WE COULD ALLOW IT BY ORDINANCE.
AND, AND SO THAT'S UP TO US AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BALANCE THE NEEDS OF THE, THE NEIGHBORS, THE CITIZENS AND THE CARRIERS IN A WAY THAT'S SAFE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT MEETS THAT STUFF.
'CAUSE FRANKLY, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON THAT BRENTWOOD NEEDS TO BE THE WORST CELL COVERAGE IN THE STATE.
I MEAN, THIS IS PRETTY, I THINK MOST CITIZENS HERE WOULD EXPECT US TO HAVE REALLY GOOD CELL PHONE COVERAGE.
WHEN IS THE TIMEFRAME FOR NOLANSVILLE CHANGED? DO YOU KNOW? OH, TOO SOON.
UH, PROBABLY WOULD THEY SAY WINTER, EARLY SPRING? YEAH.
OH, IT'S, IT'S COMING PROMPTED THE, THE, THE CHANGE IN ALLOWING IT, NOT ALLOWING IT VERSUS ALLOWING IT.
AND CHRIS BECK AND CHRIS RAN OFF.
CHRIS MILTON MAY KNOW, UM, IF THERE'S REASON FROM A WATER, I MEAN, IT COULD BE THAT BECAUSE THESE TOWERS REQUIRE A BUNCH OF WIRING, YOU KNOW, FOR BOTH DATA AND POWER, IT COULD ADD COMPLICATION TO THE TOWER THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT DOESN'T LIKE.
AND I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE BASED ON, BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW, THAT, AND, AND I, I DROVE BY THERE JUST THE OTHER DAY AND I COULDN'T SEE THE TOWER.
SO IT'S, WELL, IT'S A, IT'S IN THE FORESTED AREA AND BASED ON THE ANGLE WHEN YOU'RE ON CROCKETT AND, UH, I COULDN'T SEE IT.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK AGAIN, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT FROM CONCORD EITHER.
SO IT MAY BE A BETTER VIEW FROM CONCORD, BUT I, I WASN'T ABLE TO SEE IT.
BUT I BELIEVE IT'S AN OLDER TOWER WITH RAILING AND I BELIEVE THEY SAID THE ANTENNAS ARE ON THE RAILING.
SO A LOT OF IT MAY DEPEND ON THE, THE NEW DESIGN OF A TOWER.
UH, SOMETIMES THERE'S A BULB SHAPE, IT MAY NOT HAVE EXTERIOR RAILING ON IT.
IT MAY CHANGE, UH, HOW YOU CAN MOUNT OR IF YOU CAN MOUNT ANTENNAS ON IT VERSUS NEEDING TO HAVE A STANDALONE IN THE AREA.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE NOT YET FAMILIAR WITH, WHAT THEY MAY BE LOOKING AT FOR A NEW TOWER THERE.
BUT I'M SURE THAT'S PROBABLY A FACTOR, BUT THERE'S SOME URGENCY TO THIS.
IF I COULD TOUCH ON THAT, WE USED TO DO THAT AS WELL, BUT ALSO TOO, THE SCADA AND TELEMETRY, LOTS OF TIMES FOR THAT TOWERS INSTALLED WHAT WE RAN INTO 25 YEARS AT OUR WATER DISTRICT WAS THEN THE SCADA PEOPLE ALSO WANTED TO BACK OUT A WARRANTY ISSUES BECAUSE THERE'S LIGHTNING INVOLVED WITH DIFFERENT TOWERS AND DIFFERENT COMPANIES AS WELL.
AND ALSO WITH A NEW TANK LOTS OF TIMES MM-HMM
THERE CAN BE WARRANTY ISSUES AS WELL, OR THEY WANT TO BACK OUT DUE TO DIFFERENT THIRD PARTY INSTALLATIONS ON TOP OF THE TANK.
THERE CAN BE MULTIPLE REASONS WHY MM-HMM
SO YEAH, IT MAKES YOU RETHINK LIKE I, I MEAN I THINK THIS AREA HAS PRETTY GOOD COVERAGE, BUT YOU KNOW THAT PROPERTY ON
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MOORE'S LANE THAT WE ACQUIRED AND WE GOT RID OF ACROSS FROM MORELAND MM-HMMTHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA TO KEEP LITTLE PIECES OF PROPERTY LIKE THAT IN CASE THE CITY EVER WANTED TO OFFER IT UP AS A, A SITE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE MIGHT NOT BE, NEED TO BE SO QUICK TO GET RID OF PROPERTY.
LEON, DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT PROBABLY SIX YEARS AGO OR SO, I WOULD SAY THEY WERE PUTTING UP SOME CELL TOWERS.
THEY LOOKED LIKE STREET LIGHTS.
AND THEY WERE TRYING TO ADD SOME AROUND BRENTWOOD HIGH SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY WANTED, THEY WANTED THE KIDS TO HAVE COVERAGE IN CASE THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY EVENT.
THEN WE HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
I MEAN, YEAH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GOOD, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCEPTED.
'CAUSE THEN WE HAD PEOPLE WRITE US AND SAY, OH MY GOSH, WE DON'T WANT CELL TOWERS AROUND.
DOES THAT WAS A STATE MANDATED THING THAT IF THEY COMPANIES, BUT WAS IT FOR CELL OR WAS IT FOR INTERNET? WAS IT IT WAS FOR SALE.
AND COULDN'T, THAT WASN'T COMMERCIAL LAND RESIDENTS, DISTRICT STATE LAWS SAID THEY CAN PUT 'EM IN, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT OUR CODE WAS.
A SMALL INTENT SYSTEM, FIVE RADIATION OR WHATEVER.
AND, AND AS WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THIS, I MEAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITHIN THE 5G, WHAT THEY CALL A SMALL PACKET TOWERS.
THERE'S ONE RIGHT BY THE DEALERSHIP THAT ARE LIKE 30 FEET TALL.
AND THAT'S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WOULD BE ON A WATER TOWER OR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD BE MUCH TALLER.
UM, BUT ALSO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT, SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY, BUT ALL THOSE TECHNOLOGIES KIND OF WORK HAND IN HAND IF YOU THINK ABOUT LAYERS AND COVERAGE.
SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR KIND OF WIDE COVERAGE FROM THE, THE BIG TOWERS, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF LOCATIONS.
UM, ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS SOMETIMES PEOPLE WANNA THINK, OKAY, WE'VE GOT SOME, A LOCATION AVAILABLE, WE SHOULD PUT ONE THERE.
BUT IT'S VERY MUCH OF AN ENGINEERING DECISION, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE MM-HMM
THE, NOT JUST LOCATION, BUT ALSO THE HEIGHT MAKES A BIG IMPACT ON THE COVERAGE AND THE EFFECTIVENESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT AESTHETICS, BUT THE AESTHETICS ARE IRRELEVANT, BUT IT'S NOT ENGINEERED PROPERLY.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO REALLY KEEP IN MIND AS WE'RE DOING IT.
SO HAVING A, HAVING PROPERTY IN OUR, OUR BACK POCKET IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND IF WE'RE ABLE TO, TO KEEP IT LIKE AWAY FROM SCHOOLS, LIKE I SAY, 'CAUSE THAT GIVES SOME PEOPLE REALLY EXCITED.
I KNOW WILLIAMSON COUNTY, I THINK GOT INTO A MESS BECAUSE THEY HAD SOME COUNTY PROPERTY WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT ONE.
IT WAS A GREAT ENGINEERING LOCATION.
IT WAS CLOSER TO A SCHOOL THAN PEOPLE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH.
NOW, WHETHER OR NOT, BECAUSE I ALSO HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINED THAT THE RAVENWOOD PARENTS HAVE COMPLAINED A LOT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE KIDS GET NO COVERAGE IN THIS, IN THE SCHOOL.
REDWOOD IS A, I SAY THERE'S A FORCE FIELD OVER IT.
YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING LIKE YOU CAN STAR WARS.
SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY TWO TRIBES AS FAR AS I KNOW.
WE JUST HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THAT AND ADDRESS IT AND IF WE CAN KEEP 'EM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE SPECIFICALLY WHERE THEY WANT 'EM, BUT IT, IT, I HOPE THAT WE HAVE LOCATIONS AWAY FROM SCHOOLS TO ALLOW FOR US TO HELP ADDRESS THIS.
BUT I MEAN, THERE'S NO SCHOOL OVER BY GOVERNOR'S CLUB.
SO
AND, AND HOW DO WE DO IT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE THREE YEARS OF PUBLIC HEARINGS WHILE WE HAVE PART OF THE CITY ON TEMPORARY SERVICE.
WELL, NELSON, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE REALLY DONE A LOT DEEP DIVE ON THIS OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS AND KEPT US INFORMED.
ONE OTHER THING AND THE RESIDENCIES KEPT THEM INFORMED ON IT TOO.
ARE WE THROUGH WITH THIS ONE?
THE, THE MEETING ON OLDS ROAD WAS REALLY GOOD THE OTHER NIGHT.
IT WAS, I THOUGHT OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DID A WONDERFUL JOB.
CHARLES DID A REALLY GOOD JOB UP THERE.
IF WE COULD GET THOSE UPDATED SLIDES.
THEY CHANGED THE SLIDES A LITTLE BIT FROM THE LAST ONES WE GOT AND IT WOULD REALLY BE GOOD IF WE COULD JUST HAVE, BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK THEY MADE POSITIVE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT.
THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD MEETING THOUGH, CHARLES, YOU DID GET ON YOUR TV INTERVIEW.
YEAH, YOU, I UPDATED THE SLIDES, UH, ON THE WEBSITE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO FIND.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THE MAIN PAGE, UH, ONE OF THE SCROLLS HAS OLD SMYRNA ROAD RENDERING ON IT.
BUT I CAN, I'LL JUST EMAIL IT TO YOU.
ONE THING TOO THAT HIT ME SHOULD HAVE HIT ME EARLIER, BUT IT HIT ME LATER.
UM, WHEN WE, WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO THE, THE CONSULTANT TALK ABOUT IT IN THE MEETING, UH, SO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, GAPS, THE NEW GAPS IN WHAT, WHERE THE ROCK WALL WOULD BE AND THE NUMBER OF TREES AND SOME OF THAT.
AND THOSE ARE ALL VERY IMPORTANT THINGS, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M, I'M SURE THERE ARE FOLKS LOOKING THERE SAYING, WELL, IF ONE'S 17 TREES REMOVED AND ONE'S
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10, AND SOME OF THAT, THEY DID TALK ABOUT THE ROUTING OF, FOR EXAMPLE, ON ALL THE THREE OPTIONS OR ALTERNATES.WHAT WOULD THE ROUTING BE FOR YOUR VEHICLE TRYING TO GET TO YOUR, UH, HOME ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD? WHAT WOULD BE IDEAL? AND I'VE ASKED, UH, OUR UH, FOLK ENGINEERS TO CHECK WITH THE CONSULTANT TO SEE IF THEY COULD PUT IT UP THERE.
IT'S LATE FOR THAT INPUT, BUT IT MIGHT HELP YOU STILL IS SORT OF LIKE THE VIDEO GAME, RIGHT? HAVE A NOT TOO BUSY RENDERING OF THE ROADWAY.
UH, AND THEN IF YOU COULD SHOW WHETHER IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE CAR OR A DOT, IT DOESN'T MATTER GOING AND RANDOMLY, IT'LL GO AND IT'LL TURN HERE OR IT MIGHT TURN AT THE DIFFERENT LOCATION, BUT TO SHOW THE ROUTING FOR EACH SO THAT IF YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU KNOW, REALLY HOW THAT'S GONNA AFFECT YOU FROM GETTING IN TOWN OR WHICHEVER SIDE OF TOWN TO YOUR LOCATION OF YOUR HOME.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TOO BECAUSE THAT ROUTING IS WHAT AFFECTS WHAT THE OPTIONS, WHAT AFFECTS THE GAP.
SO YOU NEED TO WEIGH 'EM ALL TOGETHER.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA SEE IF THEY COULD DO SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE MOVEMENT ON THERE.
SHOWS SOMEHOW HIGHLIGHTS THE ROUTING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
THEY TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I STILL NOT SURE THAT THAT'S GONNA SINK INTO PEOPLE AS MUCH AS SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
AND THEN THEY CAN LOOK AT 'EM ALL EQUALLY AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE EQUALLY AS WELL.
THAT'S SORT OF LIKE MURRAY LANE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO REROUTE.
IF YOU'RE COMING OUT AND YOU WANT TO GO EAST, YOU HAVE TO GO RIGHT CROSSOVER AND GO BACK.
SO ANYBODY THAT'S EVER DRIVEN BY BRENTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL UNDERSTANDS THIS, I THINK.
BUT I CAN SEE HOW THEY'D WANT TO KNOW ON A DAILY BASIS HOW IS IT, HOW MUCH TIME IS GONNA BE INVOLVED.
BUT I THOUGHT THE FOLKS I TALKED TO SEEMED TO THINK EVERYTHING WAS SPELLED OUT WELL, THAT THEY KNEW WHAT THEIR OPTIONS WERE.
THAT'S THE KEY TO THE MEETING, REALLY.
ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, I CAN SEE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF.