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          MEETING. 
          [ Brentwood City Commission Briefing July 10, 2025 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the July 14th Agenda, the items below will be discussed:  Veterans Monument site selection and process expectations Facade Standards for the Maryland Farms area Old Smyrna Road Design Timeline Update This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
WE'LL START OFF WITH, WE DO HAVE AN OATH OF OFFICE FOR, UH, FIREFIGHTER TRAVIS COUCH AND POLICE OFFICERS, JULIA DAVIS AND GRIFFIN EMRICH TO START US OFF. 
          SO THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD. 
          GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE AGENDA NOW. 
          UH, WE START WITH A, UH, RESOLUTION, UH, THAT AUTHORIZES THE DONATION OR SALE OR DISPOSAL SURPLUS PROPERTY. 
          AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS IS TURNOUT GEAR THAT WE CAN NO LONGER USE IN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UH, 22 COATS AND SEVEN PAIRS OF PANTS. 
          AND, UH, THOSE HAVE A SPECIFIC LIFESPAN, A 10 YEAR LIFESPAN ESTABLISHED BY THE, UH, NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION. 
          AND SO THERE'S REALLY NO VALUE FOR ANOTHER DEPARTMENT IN OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE THOSE, THOSE, THOSE LIFESPANS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT AND AFFECT LIABILITY AND SO FORTH. 
          HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE INTEREST, UH, FROM A CONTACT, UH, FROM CHIEF COLLINS, UH, WITH THE SANTO DOMINGO FIRE DEPARTMENT, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, AND THAT'S A SITUATION WHERE THEY HAVE BASICALLY NOTHING AND THEY'LL TAKE ANYTHING. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          IT'S NO COST TO US, NO TRANSACTION COSTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND I THINK, BRIAN, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT OR QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN, PLEASE ASK THOSE. 
          BUT, UH, SOMEBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BENEFIT IN SOME WAY FROM THOSE, BUT, BUT THEY KNOW THAT IT'S EXPIRED FROM OUR STANDARDS. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          YEAH, I, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S DOWN THERE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE AWARE AND HE'S COMPLETELY GRATEFUL. 
          AND I COULD READ YOU SOME OF THE, THE, THE MESSAGES BACK AND FORTH, BUT NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CHOMPING AT THE BIT FOR 'EM. 
          AND WE'VE GOT SHIPPING COSTS COVERED. 
          UM, SO IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA GO THROUGH OUR CONTACT IN NEW YORK AND THEN IT'S GONNA GO TO, TO, UH, SAN DOMINGO FROM THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND LEGALLY, I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IN THE US WHEN WE TAKE MEDICINES OR SHIP MEDICINES TO OTHER COUNTRIES, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY BIG ABOUT THE EXPIRATION DATES BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL SIDE EFFECTS. 
          SO JUST LIABILITY. 
          I MEAN, I, I HATE TO BE, I DON'T WANNA BE LAWYERLY. 
          I'M JUST SAYING THOUGH, THAT IT'S AN UNDERSTANDING AND WE CAN, WE CAN SHIP THEM AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS OVER THAT. 
          THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION FOR THE PERSON WHO LIKES TO BE LAWYERLY, HAVE A LAWYER FOR THAT. 
          AND I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO DASH YOUR LAWYERLY FOR THE GESTURE. 
          I THINK I'LL, I THINK I'LL ACTUALLY, NO, I'M NOT TRYING, TRYING TO DASH THE GESTURE, BUT I IT'S A, IT'S A NATIONAL STANDARD THAT THEY DON'T HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          IT'S OUR, AND NOT TO SAY IT IS A VERY VALUABLE STANDARD, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A NATIONAL STANDARD AND FPA AND NOT A DOMINICAN REPUBLIC STANDARD. 
          SO THEY, THEIR S ARE DIFFERENT. 
          YEP, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WITH THAT. 
          SO WE CAN GO TO THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, IT DOESN'T COME BACK. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, RESOLUTION ADOPTS NEW GUIDELINES AND POLICIES FOR THE USE OF THE COOL SPRINGS HOUSE AND CROCKETT PARK, AND PRIMARILY THE CHANGES. 
          AND YOU HAVE THE, THE, UH, ALL THE FULL LIST OF THE, UH, HIGHLIGHTED CHANGES, BUT MOSTLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FEE CHANGES, UH, INCREASING THE WEEK, UH, WEEKDAY RENTAL RATES BY 200. 
          THE WEEKEND RATES BY A THOUSAND FOR BOTH PEAK AND OFF PEAK MONTHS. 
          UH, THE DISCOUNTED RATE OF SIX 50 FOR THE BUNDLING OF A SUNDAY OR FRIDAY, UH, WITH THE SATURDAY BOOKING HAS BEEN CHANGED TO 50% OFF THE NORMAL RATE. 
          AND THEN THE SEASONAL DISCOUNTS HAVE JUST BEEN CHANGED IN TITLE TO EVENT RENTAL COST OFF SEASON. 
          THE MONTHS OF NOVEMBER, JULY AND AUGUST HAVE BEEN ADDED TO DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND MARCH. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO LOWERING THE PRICING FOR OFF PEAK MONTHS, THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY CHANGES IN THERE. 
          UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP UP WITH MARKET, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE HELP RECOVER THE COST OF, OF, OF, OF THAT AND THE PROCESS. 
          AND THEN, AND ALSO WE DON'T GET TO A POINT TO WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY OVERUSED AND WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH MAINTENANCE. 
          SO, UH, CHARLES, CHARLES, THERE HE IS. 
          UH, IF, IF I MAY REAL QUICK. 
          YES. 
          JUST REAL, UM, WE NOTICED SOMETHING THIS MORNING, WHICH IS IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR, YOUR BACKUP, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE TWO CLEAN COPIES OF THE POLICY, SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE REDLINE VERSION AND AGENDA QUICK. 
          THERE'S A NUANCED AGENDA QUICK THAT I LEARNED FROM, UH, KRISTEN THIS MORNING MM-HMM . 
          THAT WE DIDN'T CATCH. 
          IT WILL TAKE THE TRACK CHANGES OFF WHEN IT POSTS IT. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO PRINT TO A PDF, UPLOAD THE PDF IF YOU WANT THE TRACK CHANGES TO SHOW. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE TWO CLEAN COPIES. 
          WE WILL EMAIL YOU THE RED LINE COPY OF BOTH RAVENWOOD AND COOLS SPRING'S HOUSE. 
          AND JAY, IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S ON THERE IS ONE YOU, YOU CLICK THROUGH, IT'S IT, THE RED LINE IS ON THERE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT, IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN LIKE A LITERAL PRINTING ISSUE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT YEAH. 
          THE PRINT VERSION WAS DIFFERENT. 
          YEAH. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT IT IS ON THE, ON THE, AND THE NEXT ONE WE DO HAVE THE, UH, RED LINE COPY. 
          YEAH. 
          FOR SOME REASON. 
          SO, BUT YEAH, FOR THIS ONE, ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A QUESTION FOR, FOR JASON OR JAY OR FOR CHARLES. 
          NO. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, BEING, BEING IN A BUSINESS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE PRICE TO MARKET ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL LOOKING AT THIS IN PRICING TO MARKET. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE LIKE A MEETING, LIKE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM AND ALL THAT WHEN WE PRICE TO MARKET, YOU KNOW, WE ADJUST AS THE MARKET CHANGES, WHICH CAN HAPPEN A LOT IN, IN REGULAR RETAIL. 
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AND YOU'RE KIND OF IN A REGULAR RETAIL BUSINESS WITH THESE VENUES. 
          SO HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THIS PRICE TO MARKET STAYS RELEVANT AND WE HAVE A MECHANISM FOR COMING BACK TO THE COMMISSION IF WE NEED FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS, LIKE HOW DO WE MONITOR SO THAT WE HAVEN'T ACCIDENTALLY OVERSHOT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN OUR, OUR VOLUME DROPS OR WE HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM. 
          HOW DO WE NOTICE THAT? I MEAN, DO, DO YOU COME BACK TO US QUICKLY OR DO YOU GUYS COME BACK TO, IF WE DID HAVE A DROP OFF, I MEAN, A SIGNIFICANT DROP OFF IN USE BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A PERSPECTIVE, WELL, THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE. 
          WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY WANNA REACT TO THAT AND, AND POTENTIALLY BRING AN ADJUSTMENT BACK TO IMMEDIATELY ADJUST THAT. 
          UH, AND WE WE'RE STILL, UH, ONE OF THE LOWEST ON THE MARKETS WITH, UH, THIS, UH, INCREASE. 
          YOU KNOW, KEISHA DID A BIG MARKET STUDY THIS YEAR TO SEE, AND SO WE'RE STILL REALLY GOOD, REALLY  FOR THIS TYPE OF VENUE. 
          UH, SO, BUT IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF, ALL OF A SUDDEN NO ONE'S RENTING THE HOUSES WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO YOU IMMEDIATELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO COMMISSIONER, WE DO ABOUT EVERY TWO YEARS, WE OPEN IT UP AND, AND WE, WE LOOK AT THE MARKET AND SEE HOW WE COMPARE TO SEE IF WE WANNA COME TO YOU WITH A RATE CHANGE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE UNDERCUTTING THE MARKET BY TOO MUCH, THEN WE HAVE A LOT MORE EVENTS THAN WE REALLY WANT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA OVERUSE THE HOME. 
          AND WE HAD TALKED TO, UH, PREVIOUSLY ABOUT TRYING TO PRICE IT SUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF PROFIT, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, ABUSE THE HOMES WITH TOO MANY RENTALS. 
          AND THERE'S KIND OF A SWEET SPOT IN THERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT LAST RATE CHANGE. 
          WE'RE NOW SEEING THE FULL EFFECT OF, AND IT, IT DID REALLY WELL AS FAR AS WE KIND OF HELD, UM, THE NUMBER OF EVENTS ARE CLOSE TO WHERE THEY'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT OUR REVENUE WENT UP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT TELLS US, ALL RIGHT, THE ELASTICITY OF DEMAND, UH, WE CAUGHT IT AT THE RIGHT SPOT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE'RE SEEING THE MARKET OUTPACING US BY A GOOD BIT NOW. 
          SO WE THINK THAT THIS CHANGE IS APPROPRIATE. 
          WE WILL MONITOR THE BOOKINGS BECAUSE IT WON'T SHOW UP IN THE REVENUE NUMBERS FOR ALMOST 18 MONTHS. 
          SO WE'LL MONITOR THE NUMBER OF BOOKINGS THAT WE'RE GETTING IN TO SEE IF THAT DECREASES AFTER THAT INCREASE OR TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT. 
          'CAUSE I MEAN MM-HMM . 
          I, I ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT RUN MY BUSINESS LOOKING AT PRICE EVERY TWO YEARS, , YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, AND SO AS LONG AS WE, WE ARE COMFORTABLE, YOU, YOU SELLING VOLUME ON A DAILY BASIS, WE HOPE WELL, AND THEN IT WAS APPLES ORANGES. 
          BUT I'M JUST SAYING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'VE GOT A MECHANISM THAT THEY COME BACK TO US AND THEY KNOW TO LOOK AT IT AND COME BACK TO US IF THEY NEED SOMETHING. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL I THINK KEISHA KEEPS HER EYE ON THIS LIKE A LASER ALL THE TIME. 
          YOU KNOW, SHE DOES, BECAUSE PART OF HER SALARY IS COMMISSION. 
          SO SHE'S, UH, GOOD POINT IN INCENTIVIZED TO REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN HER FIELD. 
          AND I, I, I JUST DON'T THINK YOU CAN, PEOPLE PLAN WEDDINGS A LOT FARTHER IN THE DISTANCE THAN THEY BUY A CAR. 
          OH, SURE. 
          A AN AVERAGE RETAIL PURCHASE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, SO I DON'T THINK YOU WANNA CHANGE MORE THAN MAYBE EVERY TWO YEARS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE BOOKED 18 MONTHS IN ADVANCE, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT IT, IT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANNA CHANGE IN EXISTING CONTRACTS. 
          LIKE I WOULD THINK THAT DOING THIS CHANGE WOULDN'T TAKE SOMEBODY WHO'S UNDER CONTRACT AND CHANGE WHAT THEY'VE AGREED TO. 
          NO. 
          BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW IS WORKING WELL. 
          IF, IF IT APPEARS THAT IT'S NOT, THEN I THINK THEY DEFINITELY WOULD REVISIT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES, THAT'S FOR SURE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS VERY SIMILAR. 
          UH, SAME THING EXCEPT FOR RAVENSWOOD, UH, MANCHIN AT SMITH PARK. 
          AND, UH, WITH THIS ONE, UH, AGAIN, THE SAME BACKGROUND. 
          UH, THE, UH, INCREASE IN THE WEEKDAY RENTAL RATES IS BY 100. 
          THE WEEKEND RATES BY 500, UH, FROM BOTH PEAK AND OFF PEAK. 
          UH, INCREASING THE WINTER INDOOR EVENT RATE FROM 1500 TO 2000, UH, DISCOUNTED, UH, THE DIS THE SPECIFIC DISCOUNTED RENTAL RATE OF 1500 FOR THE BUNDLING OF A SUNDAY OR FRIDAY WITH A SATURDAY BOOKING HAS BEEN CHANGED TO 50% OFF THE NORMAL RATE. 
          SIMILAR AS WE SPOKE TO BEFORE. 
          SEASONAL DISCOUNTS AGAIN BEEN RELABELED TO EVENT RENTAL COST OFF SEASON AND THE MONTHS OF, UH, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, AUGUST, DECEMBER HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO NOVEMBER THROUGH MARCH WHEN IT COMES TO LOWER PRICING FOR OFF PEAK MONTHS. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, KIND OF A MINOR ADJUSTMENT OF, UH, REAL FILE FLOWER PETALS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE LIST OF PROHIBITED ITEMS. APPARENTLY THOSE ARE A CLEANUP ISSUE, , SO THAT'S A MINOR CHANGE OTHER THAN THE PRICING OF THAT. 
          BUT OTHERWISE THE SAME CONVERSATION QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT ITEM IS A RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZES THE USE OF A COMPETITIVE SEALED PROPOSAL PROCESS FOR TENT RENTAL SERVICES AT THE RAVENSWOOD MANSION. 
          AND, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, RIGHT NOW THAT YOU GET A VARIETY OF TENCENT RANGE IN STYLE AND QUALITY FOR MULTIPLE VENDORS, UM, 
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THAT CAN HAVE SOME IMPACTS ON THE SITE PREPARATION AND SO FORTH. 
          UH, SO AT THIS POINT, STAFF'S LOOKED AT IT AND THINKS THAT IT'S, IT'S, UH, WISE TO EXPLORE, UH, POTENTIALLY ACQUIRING 10 RENTAL SERVICES DURING THE PEAK SEASON. 
          UH, SO THAT THAT'S MORE OF A MANAGED PROCESS, UH, AND PREDICTABLE PROCESS. 
          UH, AND, AND THINK THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY EASE THE BURDEN BOTH ON US AND RENTERS A LIKE. 
          AND SO THIS REQUEST IS TO, UH, UH, FOR YOU TO GRANT PERMISSION TO ACCEPT SEALED, UH, UH, PROPOSALS, PRICE PROPOSALS FOR THAT. 
          I GUESS ONCE WE GET THOSE WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO FINISH KIND OF EVALUATING THAT QUESTION. 
          UH, BUT JUST WANT TO GET THE PERMISSION TO GO AND, AND SOLICIT THOSE PROPOSALS AND SEE WHAT THE PRICING IS AND THEN, UH, PUT THAT IN THE EQUATION AND SEE WHERE WE GO NEXT. 
          SO THIS WOULD LIKE, THE, THE RENTAL WOULD COME THROUGH US SO WE COULD CONTROL YES. 
          WHO'S PUTTING IT UP, HOW THEY'RE PUTTING IT UP, WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IT UP, WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING UP, WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING UP. 
          AND ALSO, UH, IT INCLUDES, UH, IN THE PROPOSAL WE WANT TO INCLUDE, UH, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT, WHETHER THEY CAN COME TAKE IT DOWN MM-HMM . 
          UH, FOR SAFETY REASONS, OBVIOUSLY TO KEEP IT LOOKING NICE. 
          AND I'M SURE THE STAFF HAS SOME IDEA OF THE BETTER VENDORS ALREADY FROM YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OF WHO, WELL, IF IT'S SEAL BIDS, ANYBODY CAN BID, CAN BID. 
          BUT, UH, WE WOULD ALWAYS FALL BACK TO, WHICH WE DO SOMETIMES WITH PAVING. 
          WE'VE HAD BETTER SUCCESS WITH SUCH AND SUCH COMPANY THAN A B, C COMPANY BECAUSE THEY DO THEIR WORK ON TIME, THEIR WORK HOLDS UP, THAT KIND OF THING TOO. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE CAN EVALUATE IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT AND ALSO HOPEFULLY NOT STAKE THE WATER LINES THAT, UH, HAPPENS EVERY FEW WEEKS. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          SO COMING BACK TO THAT QUESTION, CHARLES, THIS IS A, A SEALED PROPOSAL PROCESS. 
          SO THERE'S PRICE PLUS THE QUALITY AND OTHER FACTORS. 
          RIGHT? OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, THAT GIVES THAT DISCRETION THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. 
          AND THEN WHEN THOSE COME BACK, WE'LL SEE WHAT, HOW THE PRICING FITS IN. 
          IF WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD, THEN THAT WILL COME IN FRONT OF YOU FOR A FORMAL ACTION THESIS NOW. 
          BUT I HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THESE COMPANIES ARE, BUT IF WE, WE'VE GOT ONE AND THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE A PARTICULAR DAY, WHAT'S THE FALLBACK? WELL, I BELIEVE THE TENT WOULD BE UP THROUGH THE SEASON. 
          OH, 10. 
          WELL, THE ENTIRE TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE TENT GOES UP, STAYS UP, THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT HAVING THIS TEAR DOWN, BRING IT BACK IN. 
          UH, NEW STAKES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S ONE 10 PLUS. 
          WELL, IT LOOK NICE. 
          WELL, IT STILL LOOK NICE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THAT'S, UH, PART OF THE RFP WAS TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT WEATHER TO KEEP IT TENT MAINTAINED, TO KEEP IT LOOKING NICE. 
          THAT'S GREAT IDEA IF IT WORKS. 
          PLUS YOU CAN HAVE, EVEN IF THEY HAD TO TAKE IT DOWN TWO OR THREE TIMES FOR ON THE WEATHER, I WOULD THINK Y'ALL COULD BE OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT HITTING WATER LINES. 
          RIGHT. 
          KNOWING THE ACT ON THE GRASS. 
          BECAUSE, BECAUSE JUST FROM THE FEW EVENTS I'VE BEEN TO, I'VE NOTICED A DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY AND HOW THINGS ARE SET UP. 
          I'M NOT A 10 EXPERT, BUT I DO WORK WITH A LOT OF MECHANICAL THINGS AND I CAN KIND OF TELL WHEN THINGS ARE NEAT AND WHEN THEY'RE SLOPPY. 
          SO THAT'S PROBABLY A GREAT IDEA. 
          THE TENT FOR THE RAVENSWOOD 200TH WAS A, A LOVELY TENT. 
          SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE GREAT AMENITY TO HAVE MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, AND IT'S PERMANENT. 
          I, YOU, SOMEBODY WAS ASKING ABOUT THE GRASS. 
          IT'S, IT'S A CONCRETE PAD THERE. 
          YES. 
          OR STONE ALREADY. 
          SO IT'LL ONLY BE IN THAT, ONLY, ONLY IN THAT AREA IS WHERE THE TENT WILL BE. 
          I SAW A TENT BEING SET UP. 
          UM, AND ACTUALLY I WAS SCOUTING SOME OF THE VETERANS MONUMENT SITES, BUT BEING SET UP KIND OF IN THE BACKFILL, WHEN I SAY THE BACKFILL BEHIND THE MANSION, BUT IN THE OPEN AREA. 
          AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS NORMAL FOR EVENTS. 
          IT LOOKED LIKE IT MAY HAVE BEEN A SECONDARY TENT BEING SET UP, UH, POSSIBLY FOR A WEDDING. 
          AND MAYBE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE YEAH. 
          COCKTAIL HOUR THERE OR WHATEVER. 
          SO WE, WE, WE, WE GIVE THEM THE OPTION IF THEY WANT, IF THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE THEIR TENT FOR SOME REASON OUT THERE INSTEAD OF OVER THE PATIO. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THIS ONE HAD IT IN BOTH LOCATIONS. 
          YES. 
          I THINK IT WAS A PARTICULARLY BIG EVENT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. 
          WOULD THEY STILL BE ABLE TO DO THE SECONDARY TENT? UH, IF I, I WOULD IMAGINE SO. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY THE YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WOULD BE, 'CAUSE I DON'T FIGURE THERE'S WATER LINES OUT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS WILL BE AN AMENITY TO THAT, LIKE AN ADDED AMENITY TO THE HOUSE. 
          ONCE YOU RENT THE HOUSE, YOU GET THE TENT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO REACH OUT TO YOUR OWN TENT COMPANY. 
          WELL, SOMEBODY COULD EVEN BE HAVING A DAY EVENT AND NOT A WEDDING AND COULD USE THAT TENT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THE TENT IS AN ADDITIONAL COST, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD THINK THERE WOULDN'T BE TOO MANY WITH MULTIPLE TENANTS. 
          THAT'D BE A PRETTY EXPENSIVE WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN I SAW IT, I WAS KIND OF OUT OF THE 
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NORM. 
          I WAS LIKE, WOW. 
          . 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS AN ITEM THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER HAD ASKED OF US IS THE, UH, RENAME THE BRENTWOOD VETERANS MEMORIAL AD HOC COMMITTEE TO THE BRENTWOOD VETERANS MONUMENT AD HOC COMMITTEE. 
          SO THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? IT'S A PROOF WE LISTEN, RIGHT? ? UH, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE 21ST, UH, JUDICIAL, UH, DISTRICT DRUG TASK FORCE. 
          THIS IS PRETTY ROUTINE ON THE, ON THE POLICE SIDE. 
          UM, AND SO YOU, I THINK YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT A DRUG TASK FORCE DOES AND THE PURPOSE FOR THAT. 
          AND, AND WE HAVE BEEN A MEMBER FOR SOME TIME, IT DOES TAKE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO DO THIS. 
          UH, WE MAKE A MONETARY DONATION TO IT IN LIEU OF, UH, PERSONNEL. 
          GENERALLY PERSONNEL ARE ALLOCATED, PERHAPS IN ADDITION TO MONEY. 
          THIS CASE WE JUST MAKE A MONETARY CONTRIBUTION. 
          LOOKS LIKE IT'S $5,000, WHICH IS REALLY ACTUALLY A PRETTY MINIMAL AMOUNT. 
          WE'VE ENTERED INTO PRE PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS IN 2016 AND 2000, UH, 24. 
          UH, THOSE AGREEMENTS OF COURSE, OUTDATED. 
          AND SO, UH, WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          OUR, UH, CHIEF COLVIN IS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE TASK FORCE, ALONG WITH OTHER REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER AGENCIES IN THE AREA. 
          SO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD ON THIS ONE AS WELL, I THINK. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, NOW THE NEXT ITEM IS AN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, THE WINDROW PHILLIPS GROUP FOR GOVERNMENT RELATIONS SERVICES. 
          UH, AGAIN, WE'VE, UH, WORKED WITH THIS COMPANY SINCE 2017 AND THEY, UH, GIVE, REALLY HELP US, UH, DRAMATICALLY AND IN MANY WAYS WITH ISSUES THAT OCCUR AT OUR STATE, UH, UH, LEGISLATURE. 
          UH, THEY'RE KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS THAT, UH, WE TRY TO KEEP AN EYE ON, BUT THEY'RE THERE, UH, AN ONGOING BASIS. 
          SO THEY TELL US WHAT'S EMERGING, WHAT MAY HAVE TRACTION, AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO ENGAGE WITH THEM FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          WE, WHILE WE, UH, UM, GET BACK TO THE, OKAY, I KIND OF SKIPPED AHEAD. 
          THEY ALSO WORK WITH OTHER CITIES IN TENNESSEE, AND YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THIS. 
          UM, AND SO WE'VE LISTED THOSE, UH, FRANKLIN'S, ONE OF THOSE GATLINBURG, UH, JOHNSON CITY KINGSPORT AND SOME OTHERS. 
          SO, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY, THAT THEY SPECIALIZE IN. 
          THE SERVICES THAT WE WOULD GET FROM THEM INCLUDE ASSISTANCE WITH ISSUES THAT ARISE FROM, UH, VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS IN ADDITION TO THE LEGISLATURE. 
          IT COULD BE ISSUES FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS OF THE STATE OR THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. 
          SO IT'S NOT SPECIFIC JUST TO THE LEGISLATURE, STATE OPERATIONS, WHICH IS GOOD. 
          UM, THE, UH, COST OF THE FIRM SERVICES IS REQUESTED TO BE $51,000. 
          WE DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT IS $6,000 MORE THAN LAST YEAR'S FEE, BUT THE LAST YEAR'S FEE HAS BEEN THE SAME FOR THREE YEARS. 
          SO THEY HADN'T ASKED FOR AN INCREASE IN, IN A PRIOR TWO YEARS. 
          SO WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, IT'S, IT'S VERY REASONABLE. 
          UH, IN ADDITION TO JUST THE, UH, STANDARD FEE, THE, THE CITY, UH, TRADITIONALLY PAYS THE REGISTRATION OF THEIR THREE REPRESENTATIVES, UH, FOR TO BE LOBBYISTS. 
          AND THAT'S FOUR $50. 
          BUT I THINK, I CAN'T, I DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE HERE. 
          I THINK WE'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH, VERY HAPPY. 
          KRISTEN WORKS WITH CLOSELY, VERY PLEASED. 
          THEY, WE DO A LOT OF PHONE CALLS WITH THEM DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT LITERALLY ALL HOURS OF THE DAY THEY'RE ON SITE. 
          UM, AND THEY HAVE REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL, REALLY ALL OF THE LEGISLATORS AND THE ENTIRE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. 
          AND I KNOW JAY CAN SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE SAT DOWN WITH OUR GROUP OF OTHER 10 CITIES AND WENT THROUGH ALL THE LEGISLATION THAT HAD BEEN FILED AND TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING TO BE AFFECTING THE CITY. 
          AND THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT HAVING THE INSIDE OF, HEY, THAT'S NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          OR, HEY, THIS ONE REALLY MIGHT GET SOME TRACTION, SO LET'S GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. 
          SO I THINK THEY'VE BEEN WELL WORTH. 
          WELL, I HAVE ONE COMPLAINT ABOUT 'EM. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          HOW DID WE NOT KNOW ABOUT HOUSE BILL? 65? OH, WE, THAT WAS ON OUR LIST, BUT AGAIN, WE, AGAIN, WE CAN GET INTO THAT. 
          BUT THAT WAS ON THE, ON THE LIST OF LEGISLATION. 
          BUT, UM, I ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY GOT A PHONE CALL FROM ANNA INRO WHEN SHE FOUND OUT. 
          HOW WAS THAT NOT COMMUNICATED DIRECTLY TO US? WELL, IT WAS AS SOON AS, YEAH. 
          AS SOON AS IT WAS, WAS DISCOVERED. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE HEARD ABOUT IT A LITTLE LATE IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          WELL, AS DID WE, I FELT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR EAR TO THE GROUND AND THEY DID AS SOON AS IT WAS FILED. 
          THAT WAS, THEY DIDN'T HEAR ANY MURMURINGS. 
          I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT A GOOD LUMPIES GROUP DID. 
          NO, NO. 
          AND I THINK WE ALL, AGAIN, NOT TO BEAT THAT HORSE TO DEATH. 
          I THINK WE ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THAT CAME TO BE, BUT AS SOON AS IT WAS FILED AND AS SOON AS THEY KNEW ABOUT IT, THEY CONTACTED. 
          YEAH. 
          IF IT WAS FILED THEN, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . 
          IT WAS FINE. 
          AND THEN WE HEARD ABOUT IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, AND I BELIEVE THE, THE NATURE OF THAT ONE, IT WASN'T ON ANYBODY'S RADAR 'CAUSE IT WAS SO TAILORED AND SPECIFIC TO ONE CITY, THEN NO ONE ELSE CARED. 
          SO NO ONE WAS TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          YOU KNOW? 
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EXACTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE PEOPLE THAT CARED DIDN'T KNOW. 
          WELL ALONG THOSE LINES, WOULD THIS BE THE GROUP? OH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          FROM MY CONNECTIONS AND THE LEGISLATORS, PEOPLE I CALL AND ASK THAT NO ONE KNEW ABOUT IT UNTIL IT WAS, IT WAS THERE. 
          AND SO, UM, AND IT HAD ALREADY SOMEHOW GOTTEN STEAM OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, TO MAKE IT THROUGH COMMITTEE AND EVERYTHING. 
          SO, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING TOO, IS IT WAS, WHAT'S THE FILING DEADLINE FOR BILLS POPPED UP? UH, IT CHANGES EVERY YEAR, BUT I CAN ROUGHLY THEN YEAH, ROUGHLY LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS THERE ANY MEANS THAT YOU CAN FILE A BILL LATER THAN THAT? IS THERE ANY CRACK IN THAT? OKAY. 
          SO THAT, DID THAT COME IN AT THE VERY, TOWARDS THE VERY END OF THE FILING DEADLINE? I DON'T KNOW THAT JASON, TO BE HONEST. 
          I KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE JASON SAID, THAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES. 
          WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AS SOON AS I THINK IT DID. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK IT, IF I REMEMBER IT WAS VERY TO VERY A DOWN, VERY TALE END. 
          SO NELSON, WHEN YOU FIRST BROUGHT IT UP AT A CITY COMMISSION MEETING BEFORE IT PASSED, HAD ANY TIME-WISE, HAD IT BEEN FILED? IT HAD BEEN FILED, YES. 
          IT HAD BEEN FILED, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE WERE DAYS IN BETWEEN, UH, MAYOR ANDREWS FINDING OUT ABOUT IT AT A, AT AN EVENT THAT HE ATTENDED. 
          WELL, AND THEY DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHAT I HAD WAS OUR STATE REP SAYING HE WAS DOING THINGS ON BEHALF OF BRENTWOOD MM-HMM . 
          AND I WASN'T AWARE OF THIS COMMISSION ASKING FOR ANYTHING. 
          SO I ASKED THE COMMISSION, INCLUDING SOME FORMER COMMISSIONERS, UM YEAH. 
          AND AS WELL AS, WELL THOSE HERE WERE, IF THEY KNEW WHAT IT WAS. 
          AND AT THAT TIME THEY SAID NO. 
          AND WE DIDN'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT WAS TILL LATER. 
          BUT, SO THE QUESTION I HAVE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD SOME, I GUESS REPERCUSSIONS FROM WHAT I THINK WAS AN INTENTIONALLY SNEAKY PROCESS. 
          BUT WHAT I'D BE CURIOUS, CAN THEY HELP US REVERSE THE UNREQUESTED CHANGES TO OUR CHARTER? HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO HOW, HOW THAT WOULD WORK IS WE WOULD HAVE TO GET OUR LEGISLATORS. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YOU NEED A SPONSOR RIGHT. 
          PERSON. 
          YEAH. 
          IF WE NEED A SPONSOR FOR IT. 
          SO, SO THAT, SO, SO THAT WOULDN'T BE THESE FOLKS THAT WOULD BE THIS COMMISSION GOING TO OUR, UH, REPRESENTATIVES TO IT. 
          IT WOULD BE, BUT AGAIN, WINDROW PHILLIPS COULD HELP US DO THAT AND HELP TALK TO OTHER LEGISLATORS TO DO, THEY COULD EXPLAIN TO, THEY COULD EXPLAIN REPRESENTATIVE FROM OBION COUNTY OR RIGHT. 
          GRUNDY THAT, HEY, THIS, THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS FAIRLY SPECIFIC TO BRENTWOOD, THIS ACTUALLY CHANGED THEIR CHARTER WITHOUT THE COMMISSION KNOWING THEIR CHARTER WAS GONNA BE CHANGED. 
          NO, AND IT WASN'T REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSION. 
          IT WAS REQUESTED AS BY THE COMMISSIONERS WAS REQUESTED BY THE MAYOR AT THAT TIME. 
          OH, WE DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          BUT IT WAS, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WAS SAID IN THE PRESS. 
          SO, SO WELL, I SAW ON THE NEWS LAST NIGHT, SPRING HILL AS 10 ACRES, THEY WANNA PUT A LOT OF ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THEY WANT, THEY'RE DOING A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. 
          I THOUGHT, WELL, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS LEGAL. 
          AND THE ONLY ONE APPROVED IS US. 
          I DON'T THINK SPRING HILL, THEY MAY HAVE A BOND BOARD LAY IT'S, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THEY ARE DOING IT THROUGH AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THAT IS, AGAIN, AS WE'VE GONE OVER, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN DO IT. 
          THAT'S INTERESTING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT, THAT CHARTER CHANGE WAS PRETTY SPECIFIC TO ATHLETIC FACILITIES AS YOU MENTIONED, SO, OR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. 
          SO YEAH, THEY VERY WELL, IN FACT, THEY LIKELY HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD THAT THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH FOR THAT. 
          WELL, THE THING THAT MADE ME THE MADDEST WAS ALL THE EXPLANATIONS OF HOW IT GOT STARTED. 
          JUST OUR, OUR BILL, LIKE WHO REQUESTED IT, YOU KNOW, YOU KEPT HEARING DIFFERENT PEOPLE REQUESTED IT, IT CHANGED. 
          AND THIS DAY, I'M NOT SURE, 24 HOURS AT ONE POINT, IT LITERALLY CHANGED IN 24 HOURS TOO, HOW IT CAME ABOUT. 
          SO, YEAH, I AGREE. 
          JUST A QUESTION TROUBLING, I'M ASSUMING, BECAUSE WITH A LOT OF LEGISLATURE, LEGISLATURES, THEY DON'T USUALLY LIKE TO UNWIND SOMETHING THAT THEY DIDN'T CORRECT. 
          ESPECIALLY IF THERE WAS STRONG SUPPORT FOR WHATEVER REASON. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER. 
          AND WE HAVE SOME TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE FALL AS WE THINK ABOUT TRYING TO SET UP WHAT WE MAY WANT TO DO HERE. 
          BUT YOU COULD POSSIBLY SEE AN ADVANTAGE OF SOMETHING IN THERE THAT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE WHY IT WAS PUT IN TOO. 
          AND, AND SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU WANNA PERCOLATE ON, IS, IS IT BAD TO HAVE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS, THE WAY IT HAPPENED, WASN'T, WASN'T, UH, GOOD? IS IT BAD TO HAVE IT? OR COULD THERE BE SOME KIND OF BENEFIT LATER IN LIFE THAT WE SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS DOES WORK FOR ALL OF US AND WE'RE GLAD WE HAVE IT IN THERE. 
          SO LET'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 
          BUT YOU, YOU DO HAVE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, AS WE START PREPPING, JUST THINKING ABOUT PREPPING FOR WHAT THE FALL LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND SO WE'LL MAKE A NOTE TO BRING THAT BACK AS WELL. 
          AND I WILL TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE AND, UH, AND, AND THIS IS THAT WITHOUT QUESTION, IF THERE IS A BILL THAT'S COMING FROM, IN ANY FORM FROM THIS ORGANIZATION, 
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FROM FROM YOU STAFF THAT WE WANT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE WELL AWARE. 
          DISCUSS IT ON THE FRONT END AND, AND KNOW THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS BEFORE ANYTHING GOES UP THERE. 
          PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A VOTE IN THE PAST, WOULDN'T HURT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE A RESOLUTION AND VOTED ON, HEY, WE, WE, WE DON'T WANT THIS CHANGE. 
          UM, AND, AND SOME CITIES WILL HAVE A LEGISLATIVE POLICY AND THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL HAVE THE BASIC THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DON'T TAKE AWAY OUR, OUR DISCRETION AND OUR, UH, AUTHORITY AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          SOME OF THE BASIC THINGS. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ARE MORE TIMELY THAT, THAT ARE COMING UP THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT COULD AFFECT YOU AND HAVE A POSITION ON THAT. 
          SOMETIMES THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU, WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE A, A CHANGE IN THE BILL, AND YOU, YOU PLAN THOSE AHEAD AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE NOW. 
          WE KNOW CRAFTING A BILL FOR THAT IS A GOOD THING. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, AND SO YOU CAN USE IT KIND OF AS A PLAN. 
          THAT'S A QUESTION THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR DOWN THE ROAD. 
          BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THAT I, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT IN ALIGNMENT WITH. 
          EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA AFFECT US. 
          THAT COMES FROM US AT THE STATE HOUSE. 
          WELL, WITH AIRBNBS, WE PASSED, YOU KNOW, A RESOLUTION OR AN ORDINANCE, WHATEVER, THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE 'EM IN BRENTWOOD. 
          SO THEN WHEN THE STATE WANTED TO COME IN AND MAKE 'EM LEGAL EVERYWHERE WE WORKED WITH CHARLES SERGEANT MM-HMM. 
          AND WE GOT EXEMPTED FROM THAT STATE LAW. 
          MM-HMM. 
          BUT IT WAS A, A PROCESS THAT WE WORK THROUGH AND, AND IT CAN BE BENEFICIAL AT TIMES, BUT WE ALL KNEW IT. 
          AND, AND ACTUALLY WE SAW THAT COMING AND UM, I'M SURE OUR LOBBYIST GROUP HELPED US MM-HMM . 
          UH, AND GOT AHEAD OF IT BY ENACTING OUR OWN ORDINANCE MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND EVERY YEAR THERE'S SOME KIND OF NEW AIRBNB BILL AND WINDROW PHILLIPS ALWAYS STAYS ON TOP OF IT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR EXEMPTION STAYS IN PLACE. 
          AND THERE'S EVEN BEEN BILLS THAT WHERE LOCAL COMMUNITIES NO LONGER HAVE CONTROL OVER THEIR ZONING. 
          CORRECT. 
          WELL, WE'VE FOUGHT SEVERAL TIMES THAT EVER SINCE I'VE, YOU KNOW, 16 YEARS OF MY BE OUT HERE, THE INDIVIDUAL FROM MONTEREY, TENNESSEE, WHO'S AS FAR AWAY AS YOU CAN GET, HAS BEEN SUCH A BIG PUSHER OF THAT AIRBNB BILL, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY, I'M SURE FOR THE, THE AIRBNB AND VRBO AND ALL THOSE COMPANIES THAT I'M SURE THAT THAT, THAT, HOW, HOW CAN I SAY THIS NICELY? YEAH. 
          THAT THEY ARE MAKING SURE THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO KEEP ATTENTION ON TRYING TO GET THOSE THROUGH THAT. 
          BUT THERE'S EVEN BEEN COMMERCIAL ZONING LAWS THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE WAS GONNA CHANGE BECAUSE OF SOME PROBLEM IN A COMMUNITY SOMEWHERE. 
          BUT THEY WERE GONNA MAKE IT STATEWIDE THAT, THAT, AND I CAN'T THINK OF THE SPECIFICS, BUT OVER THE YEARS THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL. 
          AND I WILL SAY, UH, WENDELL PHILLIPS IS USUALLY GOOD AT STOPPING THEM. 
          THE, THE SPORTS BILL THAT CHANGED OUR CHARTER, UM, THAT DID UPSET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN BRENTWOOD JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THEIR CHARTER WAS CHANGED WITHOUT THEM KNOWING. 
          THAT DID KIND OF COME ON FAST. 
          AND THE ISSUE WAS, IS IT WAS SO SPECIFIC TO BRENTWOOD THAT I THINK A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN THE LEGISLATURES DIDN'T REALLY CARE 'CAUSE IT WASN'T AFFECTING THEIR COMMUNITY UNTIL THEY, THEY PROBABLY THOUGHT WE WANTED IT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          YOU KNOW, IT WAS PROBABLY SOLD AS, OH, I WANTED, THEY WANTED, THEY OWNED. 
          AND IT, IT IS PERMISSIVE. 
          IT'S NOT MANDATORY. 
          IT DOESN'T MAKE A CITY MANAGER COMMISSIONER FORM OF GOVERNMENT DO THAT, DO THAT. 
          IT, IT'S, IT'S PERMISSIVE. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, NOT A HARMFUL CHANGE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT JUST WAS ONE THAT THE COMMISSION DIDN'T REQUEST. 
          SO, BUT YOUR YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK OF WITH LEGISLATION AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, YOU LOOK AT TIME, PLACE, AND MANNER. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IS THERE ARE TYPES OF THINGS, CHANGES THEY MAKE THAT MAY BE GOOD FOR THE WHOLE STATE. 
          THERE ARE THINGS, CHANGES THEY MAY MAKE THAT MAY NOT BE GOOD FOR BRENTWOOD. 
          AND SO IF YOU CAN KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING, THAT'S GREAT. 
          IF, IF IT'S POSSIBLE AND IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY, YOU GET AN EXCEPTION FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, THAT'S AN OPTION TWO. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THOSE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO PAY ATTENTION TO. 
          AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THEY'RE ON 'EM. 
          YES, VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WON'T GOSSIP AND FACTS . 
          WE DON'T. 
          I, OKAY. 
          THE NEXT ITEM IS AN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, AXON ENTERPRISE INCORPORATED FOR A TASER PIN. 
          UH, THEY CALL THIS FUNNY CONDUCTED ENERGY WEAPONS. 
          I LIKE THAT CONDUCTED ENERGY PHRASE. 
          BUT, UH, THESE ARE, UH, THE REPLACEMENT TASERS FOR A POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, BEEN UTILIZING, UH, THE CONDUCTED ENERGY WEAPONS, UH, SINCE 2016 FOR TASERS. 
          UH, WE'RE, THEY'RE STILL IN USE, BUT THEY'RE NO LONGER SOLD OR SUPPORTED BY THE COMPANY, WHICH IS FAIRLY TYPICAL AFTER SO MANY YEARS. 
          AND THAT'S QUITE A FEW YEARS. 
          UM, THE NEW TASER TENS HAVE BEEN TESTED. 
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CHIEF COLVIN'S TEST THEM, A RETIRED CHIEF, UH, RICHARD HICKEY IS ALSO THERE AND TESTED THEM. 
          UM, AND WE'RE PRETTY IMPRESSED. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, IT'S THE NEWEST TECHNOLOGY. 
          THEY HAVE BETTER CAPABILITIES. 
          THEY'RE MUCH, MUCH BETTER THAN THE CURRENT TASERS. 
          UH, THEY CAN ALLOW US TO ENGAGE FROM THE FURTHER DISTANCE. 
          THERE ARE MORE CARTRIDGES. 
          UH, THEY UTILIZE INDIVIDUAL PROBES. 
          AND SO, UH, WHAT THIS IS, IS THIS INCLUDES NOT JUST THE TASER, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A FULL COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE DEAL. 
          UH, THERE'S A TRAIN THE TRAINER, SO THE TRAINING'S TAKEN CARE OF. 
          SO IT HELPS US, UH, CREATE OUR INSTRUCTORS. 
          UH, THEY HAVE A LIVE AND INERT CARTRIDGES FOR THE FULL FIVE YEARS, A VIRTUAL, UH, REALITY TRAINING SIMULATOR, WHICH IS, WHICH IS PRETTY COOL. 
          AND THEN THE, UH, STANDARD PLAN WARRANTIES THE PRODUCTS AND ACCESSORIES FOR THE FULL FIVE YEAR TERM. 
          SO IT'S REALLY A FULL PACKAGE. 
          UH, THEY ALSO, THIS IS INTERESTING TOO, AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT JUMPED OUT TO ME. 
          THEY ALSO PROVIDE AUTOMATIC ACTIVATION OF BOTH THEIR FLEET CAMERAS AND THE BODY HORN CAMERAS. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY COOL THING. 
          UM, YOU DON'T, IT'S JUST ONE LAST THING AN OFFICER HAS TO THINK ABOUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT'S AN ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          SO, UM, THE FUNDING FOR THESE WERE, UH, INCLUDED, UH, IN THE 20 25, 25 26 BUDGET. 
          TOTAL COST TO THE FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT IS $360,000, WHICH IS $72,000 PER YEAR. 
          UH, AND AS I MENTIONED, THE, THE, THAT COST INCLUDES EVERYTHING, UH, THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. 
          AND SO CHIEF CO'S HERE IF, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I DO. 
          I JUST, JUST TWO QUESTIONS. 
          UM, ONE IS, IN TERMS OF THE ENERGY DELIVERED, IT'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A BETTER MECHANISM, LIKE BETTER GEAR, WHATEVER OVERALL, BUT SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY DELIVERED. 
          I'M, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THOSE RARE INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S CARDIAC EVENTS OR WHATEVER FROM A, FROM A TASER. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          SO THESE TASERS ARE PRETTY SMART. 
          UH, WE SHOOT INDIVIDUAL PROBES WITH A TASER 10. 
          OUR PREVIOUS TASERS, WE JUST SHOT TWO PROBES AT A TIME. 
          AND YOU HOPE THEY BOTH CONNECTED. 
          UH, BUT YOU DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL YOU SAW THE RESPONSE FROM, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL. 
          WITH THESE, YOU CAN SEND INDIVIDUAL PROBES AND THE TASER WILL FIND THE BEST PATH FOR THOSE PROBES. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE FOUR PROBES IN AN INDIVIDUAL, THERE ARE ONLY TWO THAT ARE GONNA BE CONDUCTED. 
          AND THE TASER WILL DETERMINE WHICH TWO ARE THE BEST SPREAD FOR THE MAXIMUM UH, EFFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ONES, THERE'S, UH, INFORMATION TOWARDS THE END ABOUT SOLE SOURCE PROVIDERS IS THAT THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT PROVIDE THIS NUMBER 10 TASER, OR THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES IN OUR STATE THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO USE. 
          I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANT BY THEY WERE THE SOLE SOURCE IN OUR STATE. 
          TASER IS, HAS PRETTY MUCH CORNERED THE MARKET WITH, WITH ERS. 
          NO ONE REALLY WANTS TO COMPETE WITH THEM. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE AN OUTSTANDING PRODUCT. 
          UH, THE FACT THAT THEY INTERFACE WITH THE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE HAVE WITH AXON AND THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER, UH, BOTH IN EVIDENCE.COM, UH, INSIDE OF OUR VEHICLES ACTIVATING OUR CAMERAS. 
          UH, IT'S VERY SMART TECHNOLOGY AND IT WORKS VERY WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT JASON'S BEEN SAYING ABOUT ACTIVATING CAMERAS, DESCRIBE TO ME WHAT THE AVERAGE PATROL OFFICER IS WEARING WHEN HE IS ON THE STREET. 
          SO FROM A, FROM A CAMERA PERSPECTIVE? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE, THERE'S THE ONE IN THE CAR, BUT THEN THERE'S THE ONE ON THE CHEST OF THE OFFICER. 
          SO THAT'S THE CAMERA THAT THEY WEAR. 
          BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED. 
          UH, ALSO INTERCONNECTED WITH A TASER, SO THEY'RE ALL ISSUED TASERS. 
          THE CHEMICAL SPRAY, WHICH IS PEPPER SPRAY, WHAT PEOPLE CALL IT, IT'S OCCS SPRAY. 
          UH, THAT IS OPTIONAL AT THIS POINT. 
          UH, OUR OFFICERS CARRY HANDCUFFS, SOMETIMES TWO SETS. 
          THEY CARRY A RADIO, A COLLAPSIBLE BATON, OF COURSE THEIR FIREARM, UH, MANY CARRY A TOURNIQUET AS WELL. 
          AND YOU CARRY EXTRA AMMUNITION. 
          SO, UH, THAT IS JUST THE KIND OF THE, THE MINIMUM OF WHAT THEY WOULD CARRY JUST ON THEIR BELT AND THEIR PERSON. 
          WHAT IS THE WEIGHT OF ALL THAT? UH, I THINK TYPICALLY IT'S 20 SOME ODD POUNDS, UH, THAT YOU WEAR ON YOUR BELT. 
          JUST DEPENDS HOW YOU HAVE IT CONFIGURED. 
          AND THEN THEY HAVE TO DO A FOOT RACE FOR SOME PEOPLE. 
          WELL, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THESE TASERS IS, UH, THE RANGE IS NOW 45 FEET. 
          SO AS LONG AS YOU'VE GIVEN IN 45 FEET, IT WAS 25 FEET WITH OUR OLD TASERS. 
          BUT THAT'S GOOD. 
          PLUS THEY HAVE A VEST ON. 
          WHAT ARE THE BEST WEIGHS NOW? ABOUT FIVE POUNDS. 
          OH, ROUGHLY. 
          AGAIN, DEPENDS ON THE CARRIER. 
          WE UTILIZE TWO DIFFERENT VESTS. 
          SO ANGEL ARMOR'S A HEAVIER, IT USED TO WEIGH LIKE 20, IT USED TO BE MUCH HEAVIER. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I WEAR A PRETTY, I'M TESTING ONE RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S PRETTY LIGHTWEIGHT. 
          THIS IS PROBABLY ONLY ABOUT FOUR POUNDS, MAYBE THREE POUNDS. 
          WELL, ISN'T AS EFFECTIVE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OH, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY GOOD. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          I REMEMBER DAVID O'NEILL SAID YEARS AGO, HIS WIFE MADE HIM PROMISE TO WEAR THE VEST EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE FIRST THING THAT CHIEF HICKEY AND I DID WAS CHANGE THE, UH, OUR VEST POLICY. 
          SO IF ANY OFFICER IN UNIFORM WEARS A VEST, IT'S NOT OPTIONAL. 
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AND IN LINE WITH THE CAMERA THING, THERE WAS SOMETHING WE WATCHED ON NETFLIX THE OTHER DAY. 
          DON JOHNSON WAS THE BAD POLICE CHIEF . 
          AND UM, SO HE WAS CORRUPT AND OF COURSE THEY WERE CHASING THIS GUY. 
          WELL IT WAS A BAD SITUATION, BUT HE JUMPED IN THE CAR AND HE KNEW IF HE TURNED ON THE BLUE LIGHTS THAT EVERYBODY'S CAMERAS WENT ON. 
          AND SO THAT WAS AS PART OF THE THEME WAS HOW HE GOT PEOPLE ON TAPE THAT WAY BY JUST TURNING ON THE BLUE LIGHT. 
          SO, AND IT DOES WORK THAT WAY. 
          IT WORKED OUT GOOD. 
          GOOD GUY WON . 
          GOOD GUY. 
          AFTER WE GET THESE, I UNDERSTAND OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO VOLUNTEER FOR A DEMONSTRATION IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. 
          SO I TESTED THE OLD ONES. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SCARE ME . 
          WELL, AS HEAVY AS THOSE BELT ARE, IT'S AMAZING. 
          I WAS PRESENT WHEN YOU WERE TESTED. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO, SO AS A MORE SERIOUS COMMENT, SOMETHING THAT THE CHIEF MENTIONED BEFORE THE MEETING WAS, INTERESTINGLY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF KRISTEN WANTS TO COMMENT, BUT APPARENTLY HAVING A A, A PROPER TASER AND THE STATE OF THE ART TASER MAKES AN IMPACT IF SOMETHING DOES GO TO COURT. 
          'CAUSE APPARENTLY THIS IS THE QUESTION THE ATTORNEYS WILL ASK IMMEDIATELY IS, DID YOU HAVE NON-LETHAL FORCE? AND I GUESS THEY'LL ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT ALL WORKS AND YOU KNOW, HOW APPROPRIATE IT WAS. 
          SO IT IS IMPORTANT OUR TEAM HAS UP-TO-DATE EQUIPMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, EVEN IDEALLY WE DON'T USE TASERS VERY OFTEN AND GUNS EVEN LESS. 
          BUT HAVING REALLY GOOD EQUIPMENT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          ONE, ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IN THE PICTURE TOO IS YOU'LL SEE THAT THE BRIGHT YELLOW, UM, AND 'CAUSE OFTEN SOMEONE MAY CHOOSE TO RUN AWAY, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND THE OFFICER'S FIRING THE TASER, IT'S VERY RARE. 
          BUT YOU DO HEAR, YOU DO SEE IT ON THE NEWS. 
          IF BY CHANCE THE OFFICER THINKS THEY PULL OUT THE TASER AND THEY PULL OUT A HANDGUN, A FIREARM, AND THEY, AND THEY USE THE SAME WAY, OBVIOUSLY THE IMPACT CAN BE MUCH DIFFERENT. 
          I IMAGINE THAT'S WHAT THE BRIGHT YELLOW IS FOR, IS TO HELP MAKE THAT THEY KNOW FOR SURE THEY HAVE THE TASER IN THEIR HAND WHEN THEY'RE GONNA, UH, PULL THAT TRIGGER. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING TOO. 
          SO FROM A TACTILE STANDPOINT, ALSO, IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE WHERE IT'D BE HARD TO MISTAKE ONE FOR THE OTHER BECAUSE WE CROSS CARRY. 
          SO WE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF YOUR HANDGUN. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THE TRAINING IS SO IMPORTANT IS DEVELOPING THE MUSCLE MEMORY, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE REPS IN AND WHEN YOU TRAIN YOU FIRE ROUNDS. 
          AND THAT'S THE NICE PART ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PLAN IS OVER TIME IT'S PROBABLY GONNA SAVE US MONEY IN THE FIVE YEAR CONTRACT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA FIRE A LOT OF ROUNDS FROM THESE TASERS. 
          NOT JUST TO QUALIFY BUT ALSO TO TRAIN. 
          UH, AND SO THE MORE TRAINING WE DO, UH, THE LESS CHANCE THERE IS FOR AN ERROR SLIDER. 
          TWO EDNA, I DON'T KNOW THE WEIGHT OF THIS ONE. 
          UM, BUT DEFINITELY COMPARED TO THE HANDGUN, THIS ONE CARRIES MORE ROUNDS. 
          SO WE HAD A LITTLE HEAVY, WE HAD TWO CARTRIDGES THAT HAD TWO PROBES WITH OUR PREVIOUS TASERS. 
          THIS HAS 10 PROBES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          YES SIR. 
          NEXT ITEM IS, UH, UH, ADOPTION OF REVISIONS TO THE, UH, LIBRARY POLICY MANUAL. 
          AND UH, THESE PRIMARILY DEAL WITH CODE OF CONDUCT, LIBRARY PROGRAM, ATTENDANCE EXPECTATIONS, MEETING ROOM POLICIES, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE MAIN GENERAL TOPICS. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, AMERICANS DISABILITY COMPLIANCE, UH, IN THERE AS WELL. 
          YOU'LL FIND IN, THERE'S A COPY OF THE MANUAL. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF CHANGES IN VOLUME. 
          UH, NOT ANY REALLY ANYTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE. 
          I COULD TAKE YOU THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE, BUT I THINK WE'LL HAVE LEE MAYBE ADDRESS IT. 
          SHE MAY WANNA HIGHLIGHT AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          SURE. 
          SO, UH, THE CODE OF CONDUCT CHANGES WERE MADE ON ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND IN COLLABORATION WITH POLICE CAPTAIN ANTHONY WEEKLY AND CITY ATTORNEY KRISTEN CORN. 
          UM, JUST TO GET MORE SPECIFIC AND MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD IF A STAFF PERSON, WELL, IT'LL ONLY BE THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR CALLS THE POLICE WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY EXPECT THEM TO ESCORT AN INDIVIDUAL OFF THE PREMISE. 
          UM, AND THEN JUST REALLY CLARIFY WHAT CONSEQUENCES FOR BEHAVIORS, SPECIFIC BEHAVIORS ARE. 
          UM, WITH THE PROGRAM ATTENDANCE, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS REALLY CLEAR OUR EXPECTATIONS. 
          WE HAD SOME PEOPLE SIGNING UP A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE FOR A PROGRAM, CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS, AND THEN NOT SHOWING MM-HMM . 
          AND IT MADE IT WHERE THEN OTHER CHILDREN THAT WANTED TO ATTEND DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS AVAILABILITY, UM, WITH THE MEETING ROOM REQUEST THAT WAS PREEMPTED BY A POLICY THAT HAD BEEN IN PLACE YEARS BEFORE I CAME TO THE LIBRARY. 
          AND WITH THE RECENT ELECTION, WE REALIZED THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT SO THAT BOTH MEETING ROOMS COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE. 
          REQUESTS WOULD BE, NEED TO, NEED TO BE MADE TO THE LIBRARY BOARD THOUGH FOR THAT ESPECIALLY THINKS IT BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT EXACTLY. 
          NOT THAT THAT HAS TO BE, BUT, BUT, BUT, UH, RIGHT. 
          UM, GO AHEAD. 
          NO, 
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I JUST, UM, I ACTUALLY READ THIS AND THEN I THOUGHT ABOUT ASKING THIS TO BE MOVED FROM CONSENT JUST BECAUSE OF THE GOOD WORK THAT HAS DONE. 
          I, I, I JUST THINK THIS IS, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE HOW MUCH WORK THE LIBRARY BOARD AND THE LIBRARY STAFF DO EACH YEAR. 
          AND I THINK WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND HOW MANY REVISIONS AND WHAT WAS DONE IN THE THOUGHTFULNESS THAT WENT INTO IT IS VERY, VERY GOOD. 
          AND UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, NOT THAT I QUESTION ANYTHING IN HERE, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE JUST WANNA BRING FORWARD SO PEOPLE DO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST A READING OF THE TITLE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE, UH, AGENDA. 
          I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD WORK. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU EVERYTHING YOU SAID. 
          YES, IT STAFF PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS. 
          THE LIBRARY BOARD DID AS WELL. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO CREATE POLICIES THAT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TREATING EVERYBODY FAIRLY. 
          UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE MEETING ROOMS IS THE REASON WE DON'T JUST LIKE BLANKET LET ANYBODY RENT BOTH IS BECAUSE IF, UM, FOR LIBRARY PROGRAMS, THERE'S ONLY THOSE TWO SPACES. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, AND SO LIKE THE CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN PRIORITIES ARE, YOU KNOW, LIBRARY PROGRAMS AND THEN ALSO HAVING THAT AVAILABLE FOR COMMUNITY MEETING ROOMS. UM, BUT WE DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY BIAS IN LIKE WHO WE LET HAVE BOTH MEETING ROOMS SINCE IT'S NOT JUST A BLANKET SITUATION. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WOULD GO TO THE LIBRARY BOARD FOR REQUEST. 
          WELL THAT, THAT WILL CREATE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          LIKE THE SITUATION THAT HAPPENED, NOBODY REALIZED YOU NEEDED TWO ROOMS. MM-HMM . 
          SO I MEAN, SO DID THEY PAY FOR TWO ROOMS AHEAD OF TIME? IF THEY GET LIBRARY APPROVAL AND MAYBE THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE EVENTS THAT ENDS UP NEEDING TWO ROOMS. THE, THE FEES FOR PROFIT ARE $60 FOR ONE SPACE AND THEN IT'S DOUBLED FOR TWO SPACES. 
          FOR A NONPROFIT IT'S $20 AND THEN IT'S DOUBLED FOR TWO SPACES. 
          UM, BUT WE DO ASK IN THE MEETING ROOM, UM, FOR THEM TO ESTIMATE WHAT THEY THINK THE ATTENDANCE IS GOING TO BE. 
          AND SO THEY WOULD NEED TO BE DECIDING BETWEEN WHETHER THEY THINK IT'S GONNA BE 110, WHICH WOULD BE ONE ROOM OR 220 ON THE FRONT END. 
          BUT WE, WE WORK AS BEST WE CAN TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY. 
          WELL, UM, HOW SOON DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE LIBRARY BOARD TO GET THAT APPROVAL? NO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT MEMORIZED. 
          I THINK IT'S IN THE, THE POLICY. 
          I MAY HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. 
          I BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING AND SO WE'D AT LEAST HAVE TO GIVE THAT TWO WEEK NOTICE. 
          AND KRISTEN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THE NOTICE PERIOD, BUT YEAH, IT'S, THE PUBLIC NOTICE IS A LITTLE BIT SHORTER THAN THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL IN TWO WEEKS YOU'D KNOW THAT THE LIBRARY NEEDED IT AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A CITY MEETING AT THE SAME TIME, SO SEEMS LIKE A WEEK WOULD BE ENOUGH TIME TO ME. 
          YOU MEAN YOU OF COURSE THEN YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD. 
          I THINK THIS NEEDS SOME MORE WORK. 
          THAT PARTICULAR, LIKE THAT NIGHT IT WOULD'VE BEEN VERY SIMPLE IF YOU COULD HAVE SAID IN CIRCUMSTANCES SUCH AS THAT. 
          LIKE NOBODY'S THERE JUST TO OPEN THE ROOM, YOU KNOW, BUT NOBODY WAS EMPOWERED TO MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S REALLY ALL WE NEED IS THAT A LAST MINUTE DECISION OF APPROVAL COULD BE MADE BY A SENIOR STAFF MEMBER OR, OR SOMETHING. 
          YEAH, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          I MEAN, ONE, IF YOU REALLY DO THINK IT'S GONNA BE A BIG EVENT, LIKE IN THIS PARTICULAR THING, IF SOMEONE'S HAVING A CANDIDATE FORUM THERE AND WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT CIRCUMSTANCE BEFORE. 
          YEAH. 
          NOT TO THAT SIZE. 
          SO, UM, NO, AND I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF THOSE. 
          YEAH, RIGHT. 
          SO I MEAN IF THEY REQUESTED IT AHEAD OF TIME, IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU WERE ANTICIPATING IT THAT THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESERVE BOTH ROOMS TOGETHER THE WAY THAT WE DO FOR LIKE ARBOR DAY OR THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE THE CITY CAN ALREADY DO IT. 
          BUT THEN THE SECOND CIRCUMSTANCE WOULD BE HOW TO CALL AN AUDIBLE, SO TO SPEAK. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE NEED THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW DO YOU, IF YOU GET THERE, BECAUSE I MEAN YOU DON'T, YOU, YOU NOT ONLY NEED THE SECOND SPACE IF YOU DIDN'T EXPECT IT, THE OTHER SPACE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE. 
          UM, SO YOU'D HAVE TO KNOW NOT ONLY IS THERE SOMEONE IN THERE RIGHT NOW, IS THERE SOMEBODY TO ARRIVING. 
          SO LIKE IF YOU HAD A MIDDAY MEETING, THIS SEEMS KIND OF BIG AND THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT OPENING IT UP AT THREE O'CLOCK AND DIDN'T KNOW THERE'S THREE 30 YOGA STARTING IN THE ROOM NEXT DOOR, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER. 
          UM, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF SOMEONE COULD CALL AN 
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AUDIBLE, BUT IF SOMEONE'S GONNA DO THAT, THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE THE BIG PICTURE. 
          THEY'D HAVE TO NOT ONLY KNOW THE EXISTING ROOM. 
          WELL AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT WHEN PEOPLE WERE BEGGING FOR SOMEBODY TO CALL AN AUDIBLE, WE HAVE THE BIG PICTURE. 
          PEOPLE WERE SAYING, WE'LL STAND BACK THERE IF YOU'LL JUST OPEN THE ROOM. 
          SAID THEY WERE STUCK STANDING OUTSIDE. 
          WELL I WOULD THINK STAFF, A SENIOR STAFF MEMBER ON THAT DAY PROBABLY KNOW, JUST LIKE IN AUTO SHOP, THINK WE KNOW LIKE THIS IS COMING IN, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          WITH THAT PHASE AVAILABLE FOR 30 MINUTES BUT 30 MINUTES IT'S GOT A THREE HOUR JOB THAT'S GONNA BE ON THERE. 
          SO NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEY WOULD KNOW. 
          AND SINCE THAT ROOM WAS EMPTY, IT WOULD BE NICE IF A STAFF MEMBER, 'CAUSE I MEAN YOU COULD EVEN HAVE SOMETHING LIKE SOMEBODY TALKING ABOUT SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY EVENT AND SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE TWO WEEK BETWEEN OR WHATEVER AND THEY'VE JUST GOT ONE ROOM AND SUDDENLY THERE'S A GREAT INTEREST IN THIS SUBJECT, WHATEVER THE SUBJECT IS. 
          AND SUDDENLY THEY USUALLY GET 25 PEOPLE AT THIS THING AND THEY'VE GOT 150 PEOPLE. 
          IF THAT'S NOT BEING, YOU KNOW, RENTED AT THAT TIME AND IT'S NOT SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT DAY OR OR FOUR HOURS OR WHATEVER, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD AS YOU'RE SAYING, TO LET A STAFF MEMBER GO, YES, IT IS AVAILABLE. 
          WE WILL NEED TO CHARGE FOR THE RENT. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S, I DON'T THINK, I THINK THAT WOULD ONLY BE FAIR BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW DOING TWO ROOMS. BUT THEY COULD, THEY COULD DO THAT BECAUSE THAT NIGHT IT, AND I UNDERSTOOD STAFF COULDN'T DO IT BECAUSE THE, THE POLICY WAS THIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE DOING THE CORRECT THING IN SAYING NO. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IN THAT SITUATION, AND I, I THINK IT'S RARE, BUT I THINK IT DOES HAPPEN. 
          I'VE BEEN AT THINGS THERE WHERE IT WAS LIKE PRETTY CROWDED AND I THINK EVEN THE PEOPLE HAVING THE EVENT WERE LIKE, OH, THAT'S, THAT'S MORE PEOPLE THAN WE ANTICIPATED SHOWING UP. 
          AND THEN I'VE BEEN AT THINGS WHERE THEY HAD EVERYTHING AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOW UP. 
          BUT, BUT YEAH, I, I AGREE. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR A, FOR A STAFF MEMBER TO BE ABLE TO GO, IT'S NOT RENTED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SCHEDULED. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A LEGAL REASON AS A CITY WHY WE COULDN'T DO THAT. 
          AND SO, UM, I THINK IT'S GOOD POSSIBLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO WANT BOTH ROOMS YOU'VE GOTTA BOOK 'EM IN ADVANCE AND YOU, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. 
          UM, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT THE BOARD, THE LIBRARY BOARD HAS TO, UNLESS THEY JUST REALLY WANTED TO GIVE THE APPROVAL, HAS TO DO IT. 
          BUT I, UM, I THINK THE GOAL WITH THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WELL ONE BLAME IS BEST WHEN SHARED. 
          AND SO ANY ACCUSATIONS OF BIAS OF LIKE, OH WELL YOU DID IT FOR THIS ONE AND NOT THAT THEY FOR US ONE, SO THEN IT'S A BODY MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S, UM, MAKING THAT DECISION. 
          BUT I'M HAPPY TO THINK THROUGH LIKE HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I, TO ME IT'S WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO BE EXACTLY. 
          BE, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A POLICY THAT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IS MAKING SURE THAT THE LIBRARY PROGRAMS HAVE A SPACE MM-HMM . 
          AND WE'RE TREATING PEOPLE CONSISTENTLY AND FAIRLY. 
          AND IF STAFF CAN APPROVE IT LAST MINUTE, DOES THAT WHO SERVE THE BOARDS LIKE NORMALLY APPROVING WHEN PEOPLE JUST GO IN AND BOOK THE TWO ROOMS? I MEAN IT WOULD BE A DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY FOR SURE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IN THE SCENARIO, THE SCENARIO I'M HEARING IS THAT YOU HAVE AN EVENT, LIKE YOU SAY YOU NEED ONE OF THE TWO ROOMS AND THEN LAST MINUTE YOU REALLY NEEDED BOTH. 
          BUT THE, IT'S ALREADY AN EVENT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          THE SPACE IS AVAILABLE, YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. 
          SO IT'S JUST A MODIFICATION TO THE AGREEMENT OBLIGATIONS THAT YOU ALLOW STAFF TO HAVE THAT DISCRETION. 
          SO NOT NECESSARILY FOR SOMEBODY WALKS IN THE DOOR AND SAYS, I WANNA HAVE AN EVENT TONIGHT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT'S AN EVENT ALREADY SCHEDULED, WE'RE JUST EXPANDING THE SPACE. 
          YES. 
          AND THERE'S NO OTHER OBLIGATION FOR THE SPACE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND TO ME, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. 
          SEE PREVIOUSLY LIKE LEGAL VOTERS OR SOMEONE LIKE , WE WOULD'VE HAD IT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS. 
          RIGHT? WELL IF SUDDENLY THAT MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP RIGHT. 
          THEY'D OPENED THIS PARTITION. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT WOULD'VE BEEN A MOOT POINT. 
          THERE WOULD'VE BEEN ENOUGH SPACE IN HERE TO HAVE FIT. 
          'CAUSE I, MY GUESSTIMATION IS THERE WERE PROBABLY 200 'CAUSE THERE WERE MORE THAN A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT COULDN'T GET IN MM-HMM . 
          SO THERE PROBABLY OVER 200. 
          BUT AS ANNE SAYS, I'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL OF THOSE AND HAVE ATTENDED SEVERAL WHEN I WAS NOT, UH, UP IN THE PANEL AND THERE MIGHT BE 30 OR 40 PEOPLE THERE AND THAT ONE ROOM WOULD'VE HANDLED IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          VERY, VERY EASILY. 
          BUT THAT NIGHT IT WAS JUST, AND UM, THERE WAS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION 'CAUSE PEOPLE FELT LIKE A LITTLE BIT LIKE THEY WERE DISENFRANCHISED OF BEING ABLE TO SEE IT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ALL GONNA BE RECORDED AND THEY COULD GO BACK AND WATCH IT. 
          BUT, UM, 
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SO DO WE WANT TO DEFER THIS AND PUT THAT IN THERE OR DO WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS? OKAY. 
          ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          THIS BUSINESS ABOUT GETTING THE APPROVAL TWO WEEKS AT A TIME, SUPPOSE THE LIBRARY BOARD HAS MET FOR THE MONTH ALREADY. 
          ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO GET THAT APPROVAL? IT SOUNDS LIKE IN THE CURRENT POLICY THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN MM-HMM . 
          WITH THIS, THIS CURRENT PROPOSED POLICY WE'RE ON THE LIBRARY BOARD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'M JUST THINKING THAT THROUGH , SHE NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS AND THERE THERE'S NO WAY THAT THAT CAN, BECAUSE IT IS A BOARD AND IT'S OPEN, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THAT CAN BE AN ELECTRONIC FOLK. 
          NO. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OR EVEN CALL. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT MAYBE, AND IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR AN ORGANIZATION, LEGAL WOMEN VOTERS BY WAL BRENTWOOD SINCE THEY DID THAT. 
          WE'LL JUST USE THEM AN EXAMPLE TO DO IT WELL IN ADVANCE AND GO ON AND BOOK BOTH ROOMS. BUT THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THIS MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA SHOW UP AND IF THAT'S AVAILABLE. 
          SO I'M WONDERING IF IT NEEDS TO BE A MONTH IN ADVANCE SO THAT IT FITS. 
          AND MOST ORGANIZATIONS, I WOULD THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG ENOUGH EVENT, WHETHER IT'S A RETIREMENT PARTY FOR SOMEBODY OR REALIZE A FORUM OR DEBATE WOULD, WOULD DO THAT IN SIX WEEKS IN ADVANCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WELL WHY COULDN'T OUR STATE CITY MANAGER GIVE AN APPROVAL TWO WEEKS IN LIEU OF THE LIBRARY BOARD IN CA IT'S JUST GONNA BE A RARE SITUATION, YOU KNOW? SO, BECAUSE MOST OF THE EVENTS ARE BOOKED MORE THAN TWO WEEKS OUT. 
          I MEAN, SOME ARE BOOKED A YEAR IN ADVANCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I THINK IT WOULD COME UP INFREQUENTLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND, AND I AGREE THERE SHOULD BE A WAY TO DO THAT. 
          THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO JUST ASK JASON. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS IN TERMS OF A BOARD OR NOT. 
          WELL, BUT WHAT I, THE CITY MANAGER DOES A LOT OF THINGS THAT, THAT WE COULDN'T DO. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN THAT SEEMS LIKE AN EASY, MOSTLY GOOD THOUGH. 
          IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. 
          IT'S POSSIBLE WHAT KEN SAID ABOUT PASSING VERSUS NOT, I WOULD THINK JUST SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS, THAT WE GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS AND THEN AMEND IT IN THE NEXT MEETING INSTEAD OF PUTTING THIS OFF. 
          ESPECIALLY IF THE STAFF IS READY TO MOVE ON WITH A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE RED LINED, YOU KNOW, ABOUT CIRCULATION AND EBOOK AND ALL THAT KINDA STUFF. 
          AND E PART SO THAT WE GET IT MOVING ON THE TIMELINE THAT THE LIBRARY ALREADY IS PROBABLY LOOKING FOR, UM, THAT WE PASS THIS AND THEN BRING BACK INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS TO, TO MAKE THESE KIND OF CHANGES FOR, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE USE OF THE ROOM AS OVERFLOW OR, OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT HAVE THAT BE A SEPARATE ITEM. 
          DOES THAT, WELL IF I, OR LIKE AN AMENDMENT, IF I, IF I COULD, UM, THE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS LIBRARY POLICY CODE OF CONDUCT SINCE LAST, UM, OCTOBER OR SEPTEMBER. 
          AND THAT WAS REALLY THE IMPETUS FOR THIS PARTICULAR REVISION. 
          HOWEVER, WHILE WE WERE DOING IT, IT'S LIKE, WELL, LET'S TRY TO MAKE THE MEETING ROOM POLICY BETTER. 
          I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          THAT'S NOT PERFECT YET. 
          UM, BUT THE CODE OF CONDUCT AS IT CURRENTLY IS, UM, WE WERE ADVISED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT WE NEEDED TO GET MORE DETAILED ABOUT IT. 
          SO, WELL, WE COULD DO THAT PAST THIS AND THEN GO BACK AND AMEND IT. 
          AND I'M THIS, WE'RE THINKING THROUGH THIS AS WE'RE TALKING AND I'M THINKING IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BOOK THE TWO ROOMS, THEY NEED TO DO IT SIX WEEKS, TWO MONTHS IN ADVANCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          CAN YOU KEEP YOUR HAND A LITTLE FARTHER AWAY? SIX TO EIGHT, EIGHT WEEKS IN ADVANCE, I WOULD THINK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NOW IF THAT NIGHT THEY SHOW UP AND IT'S CROWDED AND THE OTHER ROOM'S AVAILABLE, BUT THAT'S A, UM, THAT'S A RISK THEY'RE TAKING IN PLANNING THEIR EVENT, BECAUSE Y'ALL DO SCHEDULE THOSE ROOMS OUT. 
          WE DO. 
          AND SOMETIMES WE STAGE THEM FOR PROGRAMMING AHEAD OF MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF IT'S, WE'RE OPEN 66 HOURS A WEEK, BUT WE DO HAVE LIMITED STAFFING AND MM-HMM . 
          PEOPLE DON'T WORK 66 HOURS. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, A WEEK. 
          SO SOMETIMES, UH, WE'LL SET IT UP FOR THE PROGRAMMING THE NEXT MORNING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CHAIRS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE TABLE. 
          SO WE NEED PEOPLE TO BE THINKING AS BEST THEY CAN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, BUT JUST WHAT THE STAFF HAD BEEN TOLD THE PREVIOUS POLICY WAS, IS THERE WAS, YOU COULDN'T DO BOTH ROOMS. SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE. 
          IS THAT LIKE, IF SOMEBODY'S ANTICIPATING A BIG CROWD THAT IT'S AN OPTION? YES. 
          WELL THAT'S JUST PASS IT AND THEN GO BACK. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD END IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER. 
          GET THAT CODE OF CONDUCT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. 
          ANY CHANGES THAT Y'ALL WOULD TRY TO MAKE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE LIBRARY BOARD ANYWAY, SO IT WOULDN'T BE, SO IF YOU WANNA PASS IT AS PRESENTED AND THEN THE LIBRARY BOARD CAN CONSIDER YOUR COMMENTS AND COME BACK WITH, UH, BRING BACK SOMETHING ELSE, I THINK IS THE, IS WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. 
          I MEAN, NOT EVEN THE BEST 
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PATH. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAS TO, THEY BE IN THE JULY MEETING, WHICH IS NEXT WEDNESDAY WOULD HAVE TO BE AUGUST AND THEN BACK ON. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT MAKES A LOT OF, OF SENSE. 
          I MEAN, JAY, YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT, AND, AND I WANNA SAY LEE, YOU KNOW, THIS MAKES HUGE IMPROVEMENTS AND EVEN THE ROOM POLICY AND IMPROVEMENT FROM WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT JUST I AGREE WITH ANN, IT COULD BE BETTER. 
          BUT YEAH, SO PASSING THIS AND COMING BACK TO IT. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVED AND HAVE HER PRESENT, NOT FOCUSED ON THE MO THE, THE ROOM PART. 
          YOU MENTIONED THAT, BUT WHAT SHE SAID TO BEGIN WITH WAS SO IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT'S SUCH GOOD WORK AND I'D JUST LIKE THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR THAT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S FINE. 
          AGENDA, C AGENDA, LOGISTICALLY, ARE WE, DO WE HAVE TIME AHEAD OF THE MEETING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE A CHANGE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PULL IT OFF DURING THE MEETING? I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIMELINE, 20, 40 HOURS OR WHATEVER. 
          I ASSUME WE DID ACTUALLY, CAN I SAY THAT IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE BETTER TO, TO JUST PULL IT OFF A CONSENT BECAUSE I KNOW HOLLY HAS PUBLISHED IT AS IS. 
          IT'S NOT OKAY. 
          IT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE TO DO THAT. 
          SO, BECAUSE YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT THAT NIGHT. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          IF THAT'S WHAT JASON WAS ASKING IS COULD WE GO AHEAD AND CHANGE THESE? THIS YOU JUST PULL IT OFF? YEAH. 
          THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHANGES IT AHEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          HONESTLY, I HAVE NO QUALMS EITHER WAY. 
          SO WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO, I THINK IT'S HISTORICALLY DONE JUST TO KIND OF MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT DOING IT. 
          SO EITHER WAY THAT, THAT Y'ALL, I THINK IT WAS CHANGED. 
          FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I HATE TO COMMIT HOLLY TO THAT SINCE SHE'S OUT, BUT I DON'T YEAH, SHE'S ON VACATION. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT SHE WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE EITHER, EVEN THAT IT MIGHT BE EASIER. 
          JUST GO AHEAD AND PULL IT OFF AT THE TIME, BUT THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL SET THAT. 
          ALL GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE NEXT ITEM IS ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, EC LLC FOR A RETAIL SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AT THE MARYLAND FARMS WINE AND SPIRITS. 
          UH, 1 0 1 CREEKSIDE CROSSING SUITE 800. 
          AND THE, THE REASON FOR THIS IS BECAUSE THE BUSINESS IS SOLD AND THE LIQUOR LICENSE HAS TO BE TRANSFERRED INTO THE NAME OF THE NEW OWNER. 
          AND, UH, THE, UH, TENNESSEE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE COMMISSION REQUIRES THE APPLICANT PRESENT A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AS A PREREQUISITE TO THEIR APPROVAL OF LICENSE. 
          AND SO THAT CERTIFICATE IS ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET. 
          AND THERE'S A FEW THINGS, UH, THAT WE, UH, HAVE TO LOOK AT. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, CHECKING THAT THE APPLICANT'S RECORDS REVEAL NO FELONY VIOLATIONS, UH, THAT THE, UH, PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE LIQUOR STORES IN THE PROPER ZONE. 
          UM, THOSE ARE A COUPLE THINGS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT CUSTOMIZED TO US HAS TO DO WITH THE NUMBER OF LIQUOR STORES AND THE LOCATION WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND, UH, OUR CITY ORDINANCE ALLOWS ONE LIQUOR STORE FOR EVERY 6,000 RESIDENTS. 
          UM, AND SO THAT WOULD GET YOU TO SEVEN, RIGHT. 
          HOWEVER, UH, OUR ORDINANCE GOES FURTHER TO INDICATE ONLY THREE LOCATED IN THE NORTHERN AND THREE IN THE SOUTHERN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. 
          SO WE ESSENCE, UH, LIMIT TO SIX, WHICH IS FINE HERE. 
          IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING. 
          THERE ARE CURRENTLY FIVE DOING BUSINESS IN BRENTWOOD, TWO IN THE SOUTHERN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, THREE IN THE NORTHERN. 
          UH, AND THIS IS, UH, LET'S SEE, LOCATION OF THE MARYLAND, WELL, THIS IS OF COURSE IN THE NORTHERN END OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IS THIS, I JUST WANNA BE SURE THIS IS CORRECT THOUGH, BECAUSE WE SAY THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS WOULD REPLACE ONE OF THE THREE. 
          IT DOES, YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS A BUSINESS THAT'S CHANGING HANDS. 
          IT REPLACES. 
          SO YOU STILL HAVE THREE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S APPROVED IF IT'S APPROVED. 
          AND SO THE STAFF HAS REVIEWED ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND, UH, BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE ALL, UH, THEY MEET AND ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE, WITH THE CODE AND WITH THE STATE REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL BASED ON THAT. 
          SO. 
          WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, I'M, UH, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS CHANGING HANDS, I THINK IT BELONGS THE INCENTIVE AGENDA. 
          AGREE WITH THAT. 
          UM, OUTTA OUTTA CURIOSITY, YOU KNOW, AND I, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THIS THREE NORTH, THREE SOUTH THING IN A WHILE, AND SINCE WE PUT THAT ORDINANCE INTO PLACE, THE STATE HAS ALLOWED, UH, BEER AND OR WINE AND I THINK SOME LIQUOR IN THE GROCERY STORES MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WHICH ARE NOT IN THIS ACCOUNT. 
          YEAH, NO, THAT'S VERY MUCH CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL RECALL, OR YOU MAY NOT, THAT WHEN THAT WAS DONE, THERE WERE SOME KIND OF NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE LIQUOR LOBBY AND THE GROCERY LOBBIES YEAH. 
          TO KIND OF PHASE IT OUT AND MAKE 'EM MORE EXPENSIVE IN THE GROCERY STORES FOR THAT REASON. 
          UM, AGAIN, TO KIND OF TRY TO BALANCE AS BEST THEY COULD FOR THE MARKET. 
          OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A PRIVATE MARKET ISSUE, BUT THAT WAS, UM, THOSE THINGS WERE HANDLED. 
          WINE, THEY DON'T ALLOW LIQUOR ABOVE A CERTAIN CORRECT. 
          VOLUME. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          AND NOW LIQUOR STORES, THERE'S FIREBALL AND KROGER. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT LIQUOR STORES ARE NOW ALLOWED TO HAVE GROCERY ITEMS WHERE THEY COULDN'T BEFORE EITHER. 
          LIKE, YOU COULDN'T BUY JUICE. 
          NOT THAT, I KNOW I'VE HEARD YOU USED TO NOT BE ABLE TO BUY JUICE AT LIQUOR STORES, BUT I ALSO HEAR THAT NOW YOU CAN FIND THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S FUNNY. 
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SO YEAH, THERE WAS A GOOD KINDA GIVE AND TAKE WITH THAT TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          AND, AND FRANKLY, I MEAN, IF I'D BEEN ON THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE PUT IN THE RESTRICTION TO THE NUMBER OF STORES. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT'S A FREE MARKET THING. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT. 
          I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THEY, HOW THAT GIVES RATIONALIZED. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW, I THINK IT WAS DONE SO LONG AGO, BUT IT HASN'T. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I I DON'T HAVE ANY ENERGY ABOUT TAKING IT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IF, UH, IF IT WAS A NEW IDEA, I'D PROBABLY NOT BE IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT, RIGHT. 
          DOES IT, DO WE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF GROCERY STORES THAT CAN HAVE BEER AND WINE? NOPE. 
          IN FACT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO. 
          SO YES, WE, WE DON'T LI WE DON'T LIMIT BEER DEALS AT ALL. 
          CORRECT. 
          WE REGULATE THEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE'S NO LEVEL IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS. 
          YEP. 
          LIQUOR STORES. 
          YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          STORES AT THE END. 
          OKAY, CHRISTIE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, IT'S THE END OF THE CONSENT, UH, AGENDA. 
          UH, OF COURSE WE HAVE OLD BUSINESS, NOTHING THERE. 
          NEW BUSINESS APPOINTMENT OF ONE MEMBER, UH, TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. 
          IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. 
          WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION I'D HAVE FOR THE COMMISSION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT OR IF WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE OUR DECISION ON MONDAY WHEN IT COMES AROUND TO IT. 
          I MEAN, I, I KNOW, I FEEL LIKE I'VE GOT ADEQUATE INFORMATION. 
          I'M SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WE DO HAVE, UH, I, I FEEL LIKE I DO HAVE ADEQUATE INFORMATION TO, TO VOTE ON THIS, SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE I NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION HERE. 
          I GUESS IF WE, IT'S SO RIGHT. 
          YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          I MAY STILL GARNER SOME INFORMATION BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY NIGHT, BUT WELL, SURE. 
          BUT, BUT, BUT IN TERMS DISCUSSION HERE THIS MORNING, JUST COULD YOU GO OVER THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT? SO LIKE, ARE, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? ARE WE JUST GONNA VOTE LIKE WE DID? YEAH, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE YOU VOTE. 
          AND WE, I THINK Y'ALL DECIDED TO DO BALLOTS AND I DID WANNA GO AHEAD AND PASS OUT AGAIN, I HAD EMAILED YOU ALL BEFORE. 
          THIS IS THE PROCEDURE THAT WAS FOLLOWED IN 2008. 
          YOU'RE NOT TIED TO IT. 
          IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT WAS PRETTY EFFECTIVE. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED, UH, ROBERT'S RULES, WHICH OF COURSE YOU GUYS FOLLOW A TOWEL. 
          BOSS  TO IT. 
          LOOK AT THAT. 
          I LIKE THE TEACHER HELPER. 
          THINK YOU, IT JUST WON'T BE, AND THIS JANET'S POINT I FELT LIKE I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, NORMALLY WE GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO, TO DISCUSS YES. 
          WE DON'T NEED TO ON THIS WON'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING ELECTION. 
          JUST LIKE IF A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL MAKE A COMMENT, WHATEVER THE PARK BOARD. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OH, THERE'S, AND THERE USUALLY IS, THERE'S 10 GREAT CANDIDATES AND UNFORTUNATELY WE NOT ONLY USE ONE OR TWO. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, AND SO MM-HMM . 
          A LOT OF US WILL MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT OR MAY MAKE A STATEMENT OF YEAH. 
          OF WHAT THAT BOARD DOES, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE THE COMMISSIONER ATTACHED TO THAT BOARD. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          BUT SO WE DON'T, THERE'S NO, YOU CAN JUST, JUST THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I, I WAS GONNA SAY IS ROBERT'S RULES, OBVIOUSLY YOUR, UH, YOUR PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS DOES NOT SAY HOW ELECTIONS HAVE TO HAPPEN. 
          SO THIS, UM, YOU ALL TYPICALLY DO IT BY BA BALLOT. 
          OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO BE PUBLIC BECAUSE OF THE TENNESSEE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. 
          THESE ARE THE PROCEDURES THAT WERE FOLLOWED IN 2008. 
          I WOULD RECOMMEND THEM AGAIN. 
          THEY, THEY LOOK LIKE THEY, UH, MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. 
          UM, I CAN EMAIL 'EM TO YOU AGAIN SO THAT YOU HAVE 'EM ELECTRONICALLY, BUT I, I HAD PREVIOUSLY EMAILED 'EM. 
          GOT EM. 
          SO YOU DO HAVE 'EM ALREADY, BUT, UM, WELL, YOU THINK WE NEED TO UPDATE 'EM FOR THIS PARTICULAR THING? AND DO THEY NEED TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD? OR YOU CAN, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA TO DO THAT. 
          MAYOR ANDREWS AND I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. 
          I CAN UPDATE 'EM. 
          JUST TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE 21 APPLICANTS IN FRONT OF YOU, BECAUSE AGAIN, AGAIN, THESE ARE FROM 2008. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA. 
          SO WE HAD, FROM THE LAST MEETING, WE VOTED, I THINK, TO, TO DO IT BY BALLOT. 
          TO DO IT BY BALLOT MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S IN THE RECORD. 
          YES. 
          BUT AGAIN, TO FOLLOW THESE SPECIFIC PROCEDURES, PROBABLY NOT A BAD IDEA TO, TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO, UM, TO THE AUDIENCE WHAT IS GOING ON. 
          SO I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          AND IN FACT, I CAN ASK HOLLY TO ADAM, TO THE AGENDA IF, IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THIS PROCEDURE, IS THERE A, IS THIS A, LIKE A, OR TO THE ITEM, A MOTION TYPE? I MEAN, IT'S UNDER BUSINESS. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE AN AGENDA, A RESOLUTION. 
          BUT IS THIS, BEFORE WE VOTE, IS IT SOMEONE HAS TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE AND OR IS IT JUST NO, YOU ARE. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU ALREADY SAID THAT YOU'RE DOING, UM, UH, A BALLOT PROCEDURE. 
          SO I THINK THAT SOMEONE COULD JUST SAY WITHOUT OBJECTION. 
          WE'LL FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE ATTACHED TO THE ITEM. 
          AND IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER THEM JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, I THINK THAT THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. 
          I DON'T, YEAH. 
          WELL, I DON'T, WELL, I MEAN, IF, IF I, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS UPDATED AND YEAH. 
          AND SHARED 
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ABSOLUTELY. 
          IF WE THINK SOMEONE NEEDS TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD IN ITS ENTIRETY, DOES THAT MEAN LIKE YOU, JASON AND I ARE GONNA DRAW LOTS FOR WHO HAS TO READ ALL THIS INTO THE RECORD. 
          I WOULD DRAW THE SHORT STRAW. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR YOU IF YOU WANT ME TO. 
          SO IF, IF YOU WANNA WRITE A VERSION THAT, THAT IS, AS LONG AS IT HAS TO BE OKAY. 
          AS BRIEF AS IT CAN BE. 
          SO MORE KRISTEN, LESS ROGER. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          MORE KRISTEN, LESS ROGER. 
          UH, THE COVERS WILL BE, I, NOW I HAVE TO TELL HIM I SAID THAT. 
          , I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR YOU. 
          THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN WE READ IT? 'CAUSE PEOPLE TEND TO TUNE LAWYERS OUT WHEN THEY START READING A LOT OF STUFF. 
          NO, . 
          SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT? CAN WE READ LIKE THE FIRST PART? WELL, I THINK WHAT, AND THEN LET FINISH. 
          AND THEN IF WE ACTUALLY COME TO THIS PART WHERE IT SAYS IF IT, IT APPEARS THAT NUN, UH, YOU COULD READ, SINCE IT APPEARS THAT THE COMMISSION CANNOT REACH CONSENSUS, THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT WILL NOW BE FOLLOWED. 
          I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO IT THAT WAY. 
          I, I JUST THINK IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THIS IS FROM MY SCHOOL TEACHING DAYS. 
          NO, NOT ALL. 
          YOU DON'T HIT PEOPLE WITH EVERY BIT OF INFORMATION AT ONE TIME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I'M FINE TO DO IT THAT WAY AGAIN, KNOWING THAT THEY'LL BE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM AND ANYONE CAN READ 'EM IN FULL IF THEY WANT TO, WANT TO OR WANT TO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND WE'LL JUST HAVE A BALLOT WITH 21 NAMES ON IT. 
          YEAH. 
          HOLLY HAS PLENTY OF COPIES. 
          AND BECAUSE THEN IF THE SECOND BALLOT IS NEEDED, WE COULD JUST TAKE OUR OWN HIGHLIGHTER OR SOMETHING AND SHOW WHO WE'RE VOTING ON. 
          BECAUSE THERE'S NO, I KNOW, AND I'VE BEEN THINKING THROUGH THAT. 
          IF WE HAVE SHARPIES FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO CROSS OFF PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW. 
          OR, OR CIRCLE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL LEFT ON THE BALLOT AND MAYBE HOLLY AND I CAN WORK WITH JASON. 
          I THINK THROUGH THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK A HIGHLIGHTER WHERE YOU COULD JUST HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT, THAT ARE LEFT. 
          BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY BE SIX. 
          OH YEAH. 
          AND A MAXIMUM. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          MAXIMUM IT'LL BE SIX. 
          YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          SO YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          WE'LL DO IT THAT WAY. 
          I WAS JUST THINKING THEY'D RUN BACK, TYPE IT OUT, PRINT IT OUT. 
          BUT I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE MUCH MORE REASONABLE. 
          I THINK THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA. 
          THEY ARE. 
          AND STILL KEEP VOTING. 
          I KNOW. 
          NO. 
          SO KRISTEN WILL SEND AN UPDATED, THE SHORTENED VERSION AND, UH, WHEN SHE READS IT, SHE'LL READS THE APPLICABLE ASPECTS. 
          AND IF WE NEED TO GO FURTHER, DEEPER INTO IT, SHE CAN DO THAT TOO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEP. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT YOUR TOOLS, . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM WE HAVE UNDER NEW BUSINESS. 
          SO GOING INTO OUR OTHER ITEMS OF DISCUSSION, UH, WE'LL START WITH THE REAL QUICK, UH, JUST TIMELINE UPDATE FOR YOU ON OLD SMYRNA ROAD. 
          UM, YOU, SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS, UH, THIS IS JUST NOT CHANGED, BUT THE SCHEDULE FOR THE ADDITIONAL DESIGN WORK, UH, IT'S FEBRUARY, UH, PROPOSAL APPEAR IN CITY COMMISSION AGENDA. 
          FEBRUARY THROUGH JULY IS THE PROPOSAL TO DO THE DESIGN WORK FOR IT TO BE COMPLETED. 
          AND THEN IN, UH, ON AUGUST 18TH, PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING ONE, UH, SEPTEMBER 18TH, COME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION AT A BRIEFING. 
          AND THEN, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE OCTOBER 6TH, PUBLIC INFORMATION NUMBER TWO. 
          I MAY, I'M AM CONSIDERING BECAUSE OF, OF, OF YOU TALKING ABOUT PERHAPS MODIFYING YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, TAKING YOUR CITY COMMISSION BRIEFING AND MOVING THAT UP AS SOON AS WE GET THE WORK COMPLETED TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          AT LEAST AT THAT POINT, IF WE STILL NEED TO HAVE YOU HAVE ANOTHER BRIEFING, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT I, I FEEL LIKE FOR THE TIMING PURPOSE, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU TO, TO GET THAT, UH, TO GET THOSE RESULTS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO YOU CAN START TALKING ABOUT THOSE. 
          SO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS, UH, ARE THEY GONNA BE AT LARGE OR ARE THERE GONNA BE ANY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, UH, THAT LIVE WITHIN WHATEVER A THOUSAND FEET? OR ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND A PUBLIC MEETING OR, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          I'LL, I'LL KICK THAT OVER TO DEREK. 
          UH, THEY'LL COORDINATE THOSE MEETINGS UNDER THE CONTRACT. 
          DEREK, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE STRUCTURE OF THE MEETINGS IS? SO, UH, IF YOU RECALL THE PRIOR DISCUSSIONS WE HAD PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING, NUMBER ONE WOULD JUST BE ANNOUNCED. 
          IT WOULD BE ANNOUNCED. 
          AND IT'S SORT OF A REGIONAL MEETING. 
          ANYONE CAN COME. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT EVEN IF YOU'RE FROM DAVIDSON COUNTY, YOU COULD COME, IT'S JUST AN OPEN MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC WHEREBY WE'LL REVIEW THE AL ALTERNATES, THE CITIZENS WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THE PLANS. 
          UH, WE DISCUSS SOME WAYS TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION. 
          ELECTRONIC SURVEYS, WRITTEN SURVEYS. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND MEETING, THEN WE WOULD COME TO THE COMMISSION, PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THAT OVERALL PUBLIC MEETING. 
          UH, THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD, AND, UH, I NEED TO BACK UP THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING. 
          NUMBER ONE. 
          UH, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD WRITE LETTERS TO THE ADJACENT OWNERS ON THE PROPERTY NOTIFYING THEM OF BOTH MEETINGS, BOTH THE GENERAL PUBLIC MEETING. 
          AND THEN WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO GET TO IS PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING. 
          NUMBER TWO IS MAINLY FOR THE STAKEHOLDERS. 
          THAT'S AFTER THE COMMISSION 
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HAS REVIEWED THE PUBLIC MEETING RESULTS AND MADE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT THEY FEEL THE ALTERNATE SHOULD BE. 
          AND THEN WE GO BACK WITH THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENT OWNERS THERE AND PRESENT THAT TO THEM. 
          THAT WAY EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF WHAT'S, EVERYBODY'S HAD CHANCE FOR INPUT. 
          THE COMMISSION HAS MADE A SELECTION. 
          WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          IT'S ALL VERY TRANSPARENT. 
          AS TRANSPARENT AS I KNOW IT COULD BE  WELL, IT COULD BE MORE TRANSPARENT IF WE HAD A TIME AND A LOCATION, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING NUMBER ONE IS LIKE A MONTH AWAY, WHICH IS REALLY SOON IN TERMS OF GETTING ON PEOPLE'S CALENDARS. 
          YEP, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A TIME AND LOCATION FOR THAT SO WE CAN START PUBLICIZING IT. 
          YEP. 
          AND UM, AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE A TWO MEETING ROOM MEETING  IT MIGHT BE OF REASONABLE. 
          ELABORATE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN IT REALLY, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE SMALLER, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN ANNANDALE. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW, I KNOW, RIGHT. 
          OR, AND THIS MAYOR, THIS REASON THAT, UM, UM, OUR CITY MANAGER FELT THAT HE SHOULD BRING THIS TIMELINE TO YOU EARLY. 
          JASON, YOU COULD COMMENT ON THIS IF YOU LIKE, BUT AS HE MENTIONED, WE MAY MOVE, UM, A MEETING WITH THE CONSULTANT UP PRIOR TO PUBLIC MEETING NUMBER ONE SO THAT YOU COULD GIVE US AN IDEA OF THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY ON WHICH ALTERNATE YOU LIKE, WHICH ALTERNATE SHOULD BE, UH, UH, PRESENTED AS PREFERRED DURING THESE MEETINGS. 
          OR IF IT'S JUST OPEN-ENDED, SO, SO DEREK, OR IF YOU WANT TO STICK WITH THE TWO PUBLIC MEETING PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK WHAT WE PROBABLY WILL DO, THINKING A LITTLE BIT OUT LOUD, IS I DO WANT YOU TO SEE THE CONCLUSION OF THE RESULTS QUICKLY, JUST SO YOU HAVE 'EM. 
          SURE. 
          I DO THEN THINK THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY, YOU MAY HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, BUT YOU'LL PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS. 
          'CAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THOSE IS FOR THOSE FOLKS TO REVIEW AND THEN COMMUNICATE TO YOU PREFERENCES. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET PREFERENCES. 
          SO I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T ASK YOU TO CHOOSE A PREFERENCE BEFORE YOU HAVE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS, BUT I DO WANT WHATEVER WAY AND WE'LL, DEREK, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, TO ONCE THE STUDY'S COMPLETE, TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF YOU, IT ALSO GIVES THE PUBLIC ANOTHER FIRST LOOK AT IT JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE. 
          SO, SO AT OUR BRIEFING, POSSIBLY BEFORE THE MEETING ON THE 18TH FOR THE FIRST ONE SO THAT WE, SO THAT WE CAN COME TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING WITH A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          YEP. 
          THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'D BE AUGUST 7TH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE'LL PROBABLY ASK YOU TO HOLD BACK YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT UNTIL YOU GET TO ALSO SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC, THE RESULTS OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT YOU HAD, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUT THERE. 
          THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE SIMPLER FOR US TOO, TO PRESENT TO YOU. 
          I WOULD GUESS, UH, IN THAT FORM. 
          JUST, JUST A FFY OUR QUESTION AWAY, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE WE AS COMMISSIONERS CAN ATTEND, BUT WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? UM, 'CAUSE WITH THE SUNSHINE LAW, SOMETHING, YES. 
          THESE ARE, THESE ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS. 
          SO YOU CAN ATTEND, YOU CAN ATTEND, BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO, TO ENGAGE CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          FUTURE, YOU'RE NOT FEATURE SPEAKERS, YOU'RE NOT THE STAR OF THE SHOW. 
          YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN TALK. 
          CERTAINLY WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DELIBERATING WITH EACH OTHER. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S GREAT POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT MAY BE GOOD FOR YOU TO, TO REALLY HEAR. 
          OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UH, VETERANS MONUMENT SITE SELECTION? I DON'T, I'M GONNA SEND US THAT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, THE, UH, YEAH, THE SCHEDULE ON THAT. 
          I WILL SEND THAT TO YOU, MAKE A NOTE FOR SURE. 
          AND DEREK, YOU SAID EVEN FOR THE FIRST MEETING, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN SEND OUT LETTERS TO THE STAKEHOLDERS? YES. 
          BECAUSE THEY MAY OR MAY NOT SEE IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE A, UM, WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM IN THE PAST, SO IT'LL BE EASY ENOUGH FOR US TO GATHER THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION FROM PRIOR, SEND OUT EMAILS AND LETTERS. 
          EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY THAT LIVES ON OLD SMI. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA, WELL I SHOULD I, I'M SORRY. 
          I SHOULD QUALIFY THAT NOT EVERYONE THAT LIVES ON OLD SMYRNA, EVERYONE THAT'S WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA OF PHASE ONE. 
          PHASE ONE, OKAY. 
          FROM JONES DOWN TO WHERE IT TAKES UP IN. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST PAST HARLEM. 
          SO PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE IT TO INCLUDE THE PEOPLE ON PHASE TWO BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY SINCE THE EXACT LOCATION OF WHERE THE EASTERN END ISN'T SET RIGHT. 
          AND IT IS A TWO PHASE PROJECT. 
          THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          I I I MAINLY JUST MEANT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OUTSIDE THE PROJECT AREA, SO RIGHT. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IF WE COULD DO PHASE ONE 
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AND PHASE TWO PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY WHAT'S GOING ON IN ONE. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          BIG NOTE. 
          ALRIGHT, SO NOW THE VETERANS MONUMENT SITE SELECTION, AND, UH, YOU WERE ASSIGNED COMMISSIONER BY SMEAR, MR. LITTLE  AND JAY HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD AND THEY'VE HAD ONE MEETING WITH THE, UH, WITH THE COMMITTEE SO FAR. 
          SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET, UH, JAY, UH, TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS AND, UH, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE ANY SURPRISES, BUT THE, THE, THE OBJECTIVE OF TODAY, AND I BELIEVE THE OBJECTIVE, UH, FOR THE COMMITTEE AS WELL, IS THAT, UH, FROM THE CHOICES YOU HAVE, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CHOICE THAT YOU SH UH, IF THERE'S CONSENSUS ON A CHOICE THAT YOU LET US KNOW THAT AND THEN WE'LL PUT THAT IN FRONT OF THE, UH, COMMITTEE. 
          AND THAT WILL HELP US TO KEEP MOVING, UH, THIS, UH, FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, UM, IF YOU HAVE SITES THAT YOU'RE CURIOUS OF WHY THEY DIDN'T APPEAR HERE, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO ASK THAT BECAUSE WE DID LOOK AT OTHER PARKS AND OTHER LOCATIONS. 
          THERE ARE REASONS WHY THEY WERE RULED OUT. 
          HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. 
          UM, RECALL THAT WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE INITIAL BUDGET KICKOFF MEETING, AND THEN AGAIN AT THE CIP MEETING LONG TIME SINCE WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT IT. 
          AND THE COMMISSION INDICATED THE DESIRE TO KEEP THE SITE SELECTION AS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION DETERMINES, AND THAT THE COMMITTEE BASICALLY WILL BE DELIVERED A SITE TOLD WHERE IT WILL BE, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH A DESIGN TO PRESENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT FITS WITHIN THAT SITE. 
          SO THERE ARE TWO LOCATIONS WITHIN CROCKETT PARK, AND THIS ONE, OPTION NUMBER ONE IS WITHIN THE AREA. 
          AND I CAN BORROW YOUR, OH YEAH, THERE YOU GO. 
          POWER POINTER WITHIN THIS SMALL LITTLE AREA THAT IS NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT OVER HERE, THAT'S NEXT TO THE, THE SHELTER PAVILION. 
          AND IT CURRENTLY HAS TREES ON IT, BUT IS, UH, GEOGRAPHICALLY WELL-DEFINED BECAUSE OF ADJACENT ROADWAY, UH, AND PARKING. 
          OBVIOUSLY ADEQUATE PARKING IS AVAILABLE THERE. 
          IT'S A VERY FLAT SITE. 
          THERE WOULD BE SOME TREES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS. 
          HOPEFULLY NOT ALL OF THEM. 
          UM, WE'D LIKE TO PRESERVE SOME SHADE, SOME SHADE THERE AS WELL. 
          BUT THE INTERIOR TREES MOST LIKELY WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED TO ACCOMMODATE THE MONUMENT AND ANY TYPE OF A, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, PATIO, UH, PAVER TYPE AREA. 
          UH, ONE OF YOUR BIG CONSIDERATIONS IS GONNA BE PHILOSOPHICALLY WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE SITE? THE LOCATION THAT YOU CHOOSE IS VISIBILITY TO THE PASSING THE PUBLIC, UH, WHO MAY NOT HAVE A, UH, THAT AS THEIR PRIMARY INTEREST OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING. 
          BUT, UH, AS, AS AN ANCILLARY TO OTHER USES, TO HAVE IT IN A VISIBLE PLACE LIKE THIS, CROCKETT PARK IS PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD CHOICE BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO VISIT IT. 
          OR IF YOUR THOUGHT IS, WELL, WE'D LIKE IT TO BE IN A MORE SOLEMN OR REVERED REFLECTIVE TYPE SETTING THAT ISN'T, UM, OVERSHADOWED BY ACTIVE RECREATION AND, YOU KNOW, KIDS PLAYING, PEOPLE COMING AND GOING. 
          IF YOU'RE, IF YOU WANTED TO BE MORE SOLOMON REVERED LOCATION, MAYBE CROCKETT PARK OR ONE OF THE, THE TWO HERE WILL NOT BE THE LOCATION THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO DECIDE. 
          CURRENTLY THE SPACE IS UNUSED AND, YOU KNOW, IT HAS NO OTHER PROGRAMMATIC VALUE OTHER THAN SOME SHADED OPEN SPACE. 
          UH, POWER'S NOT READILY AVAILABLE AT THAT SITE, SO WE'D HAVE TO, UH, TO GET IT THERE. 
          PROBABLY NOT, UH, TO BIG OF A DEAL, BUT, BUT, UH, IT WOULD BE NEEDED THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, VEHICLE PARKING IS A BACKDROP. 
          SO SITE DESIGN, MONUMENT DESIGN WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOME SORT OF SCREENING WITH LANDSCAPE HERE. 
          SOMETHING SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING DIRECTLY AT CARS IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE MONUMENT ITSELF. 
          WHAT IF DAVE BUN'S CONCERNS? UM, I DON'T THINK DAVE IS HERE TODAY. 
          UM, ONE OF DAVE'S CONCERNS IS IT'S A LESS SECURE SITE. 
          WE DO HAVE VANDALISM THAT HAPPENS AT CROCKETT PARK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THERE IS GRAFFITI THAT SHOWS UP FROM TIME TO TIME, A LITTLE BIT OF SPRAY PAINT. 
          WE GET THOSE THINGS CLEANED UP. 
          UM, IT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT IS A LESS SECURE LOCATION. 
          AND I'VE GOT A SO QUICK QUESTION ON THE PREVIOUS THING. 
          WHEN IT MENTIONS EVENT SPACE OR ROOM FOR LARGE EVENTS, UH, IS THIS BEING CONSIDERED AS EVENT SPACE SPECIFICALLY OR JUST HAVING EVENTS THAT ACTUALLY, IF THIS IS OKAY, ASK YOUR QUESTION, BUT THAT MAY BE PART OF IT. 
          IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH THIS WHEN HE FINISHES PRESENTING, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS HAVING STUDIED THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND HAVING TOURED ALL THE SITES, BOTH THE ONES THAT WE DID NOT CHOOSE  AND THE ONE THAT, THAT WE THOUGHT WERE THE BEST OPTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THAT MAY BE PART OF THAT. 
          SO, ALRIGHT. 
          SO IF THAT'S OKAY. 
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SURE. 
          HOW MUCH SPACE IS THAT EXACTLY? UH, FROM THE AREA? IT LOOKS LARGE. 
          UM, IN PERSON, IT LOOKS SMALL. 
          AND ON THAT PICTURE, CERTAINLY, IT'S A KIND OF A FISHEYE VIEW RIGHT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, IT'S NOT SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          I, WE DIDN'T, I DIDN'T MEASURE THAT OFF. 
          I CAN CERTAINLY, UH, FOLLOW THAT UP IN AN EMAIL. 
          UM, GET YOU THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THAT AREA. 
          IT'S NOT REAL LARGE, BUT IF YOU USED IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE LARGE ENOUGH FOR A VETERAN'S MONUMENT. 
          UM, AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT PICTURING JUST ONE SINGLE STATUE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SOMETHING, IT'S MORE OF A RIGHT PLAZA TYPE LOOK, BUT IT, IT WOULD, I'M OVER THERE ABOUT FIVE TIMES A WEEK. 
          IT'S, IT'S LARGE ENOUGH FOR THAT IF WE CHOOSE THAT SITE. 
          SO, UH, I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE EITHER, AND I DON'T WANT TO GUESS, BUT IT'S, IT'S LARGE ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU REMOVE THOSE TREES, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT BALL AND AMPHITHEATER, HISTORIC HOUSES, PLAYGROUNDS, LET'S THROW IN A MONUMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S LIKE PUTTING IN SIX FLAGS OVER GEORGIA OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW. 
          SO THEN COMMISSIONER, YOUR COMMENT CARRIES ON TO THE NEXT OPTION, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM IT , UH, JUST TO THE NORTH THERE IS THIS AREA THAT, UH, IS NORTH OF THE NEW BRENT VALE PAVILION. 
          AND, UM, IT HAS MANY OF THE SAME QUALITIES AS, AS THE OTHER SIDE ACROSS FROM IT. 
          ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT TOPOGRAPHICALLY, IT'S NOT FLAT, UH, THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZE HOLE IN THAT FILLED IN. 
          SO THERE'S MORE GRADE WORK TO BE DONE. 
          UM, IT HAS THE, YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY OF PARKING AND THE VISIBILITY, UH, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF PARKING FOR, FOR LARGE EVENTS. 
          OF COURSE, TIMING MATTERS ON WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THAT THAT PARKING'S AVAILABLE. 
          UH, AGAIN, IT'S NOT PROGRAMMED OR, OR USED SPACE. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT THAT THE PROXIMITY TO THE HISTORIC PAVILION MAY BE ADVANTAGEOUS. 
          IT MAY BE, UH, A NICE, UH, COMPLIMENTARY TYPE USE THAT'S IN THE EYE OF WHOMEVER, YOU KNOW, BUT EACH INDIVIDUAL WILL THINK OF THAT DIFFERENTLY, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE COMPLIMENTARY. 
          BUT PREVIOUSLY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. 
          MORE TREE REMOVAL NEEDED THERE. 
          UH, POWER AGAIN IS NOT READILY AVAILABLE. 
          MENTIONED NOT FLAT. 
          UM, THE PARKING THERE IS ACROSS THE, THE, THE DRIVE AISLE THAT IS A LITTLE BUSIER BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THAT PARKING LOT. 
          UM, SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT ACCESS FROM MAYBE HANDICAPPED VETERANS, UH, WHO MAY BE IN WHEELCHAIRS, OLDER CITIZENS, IT'S A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, RESTROOM ACCESS IS FURTHER AWAY. 
          UH, AND THEN AGAIN, IT'S ALSO A NOT A TERRIBLY SECURE SITE. 
          THE FIRST SITE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST KIND OF ACROSS THE STREET THERE. 
          YES SIR. 
          IT IS. 
          UH, THAT, THAT SITE'S RIGHT THERE AND LITERALLY JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WHEN I WROTE HIGH. 
          I THOUGHT, YEAH. 
          SO HERE IS BRENT VALE AND THEN WE WERE KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          NEXT SITE TO PUT IT CLOSER TO, TO THE BRENT VALE PAVILION. 
          IS THAT AN OPTION TO MOVE IT UP THE HILL, MOVE IT SOUTH, I GUESS IS THE CORRECT DIRECTION? A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS OUR HISTORIC AREA OR OUR MONUMENT AREA. 
          THIS MAY NOT BEING AN ENGINEER, BUT THE SLOPE, I THINK TOO STARTS TO BE A PROBLEM. 
          AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE STEPS UP TO YOUR PLAZA AND THAT I, AND ACCESSIBILITY AND ALL THAT. 
          I THINK THIS PICTURE KIND OF SHOWS THE SLOPE THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO HOLES LIKE THAT TREE LINE ON THIS, THE ROAD MM-HMM . 
          IF YOU WALK BACK IN THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU CAN SEE IT REAL WELL IN THE WINTER WHEN THERE'S NO LEAVES ON THE TREES, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FILL IT IN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          AND SO TO ME, THAT SITE OF THE THREE OPTIONS WAS THE MOST CHALLENGING FROM SEVERAL STANDPOINTS. 
          SO, SO YOU GOT A HOLE HERE. 
          AND THEN AS YOU COME UP THE HILL, AS YOU MENTIONED, COMMISSIONER, UM, YOU GET INTO THIS, SO YOU EITHER FILLING IN A HOLE OR CUTTING BACK SLOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THAT MIGHT END UP WITH A DRAINAGE ISSUE ACROSS THE, THE MONUMENT. 
          AND EVEN ACROSS THE STREET WHEN I'VE LOOKED AT IT, WALKED IT. 
          OKAY. 
          OPTION THREE IS THE DEPLETE POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS SITE. 
          AND IF YOU KNOW THE ENTRANCE THEN JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE ENTRANCE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FRONT DOOR, IS THIS AREA OVER HERE, HERE'S WHERE THE LITTLE PATIO IS OUTSIDE OF THAT COMMUNITY ROOM SLASH COURTROOM. 
          AND THIS AREA, UH, HAS A NUMBER OF ADVANTAGES TO IT. 
          UM, THE, THE POND AND FOUNTAIN PROVIDE A SCENIC SPACE AND A NICE BACKDROP 
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FOR WHAT WOULD BE THE MONUMENT, OF COURSE THE PROXIMITY TO PARKING. 
          UH, THERE'S EASY ACCESS. 
          THERE'S NOT TYPICALLY A LOT OF EVENTS AND WHATNOT THAT, THAT MAXIMIZE THE PARKING IN FRONT OF THAT BUILDING. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE OVERFLOW LIKE WE HAD, UH, FOR SOME OF THE RETIREMENT EVENTS, THEN YOU'VE GOT A GOOD BIT OF OVERFLOW BACK HERE ON THIS DRIVE AISLE. 
          IT'S FLAT, NO GRADING POWER IS NEARBY, RIGHT HERE AT THE CORNER IS POWER. 
          UH, IT IS OF COURSE A MORE SECURE SITE. 
          I CAN'T IMAGINE IT BEING MORE SECURE UNLESS WE PUT IT BEHIND THE FENCE IN THE BACK. 
          , , UM, IT, IT'S UNDER THE WATCHFUL EYE OF, OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          NO TREE REMOVAL IS NECESSARY. 
          THERE MAY BE SOME TREE RELOCATION BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE PLANTED TREES HERE, UM, THAT WE MAY WANNA MOVE ONE OR TWO OF THEM, UH, THAT THEY COULD BE PICKED UP AND MOVED. 
          UH, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY USED SPACE OR SPACE THAT WE THINK WE WOULD EVER NEED FOR EXPANSION. 
          AND IT IS CENTRALLY LOCATED TO THE CITY JUST GEOGRAPHICALLY AT DISADVANTAGES THAT IT'S LESS VISIBLE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE THE ROCKET PARK TYPE ANCILLARY, UH, CIRCULATION AROUND IT. 
          UH, YOU DO HAVE SOME ROAD NOISE FROM I 65, UH, AND THEN MAYBE IF YOU WANTED TO, I, I REALLY CAN'T IMAGINE A LARGE EVENT THAT WOULD OUTPACE THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, THAT IS AVAILABLE HERE. 
          BECAUSE I THINK OUR, OUR, UH, RETIREMENT CELEBRATIONS OVER THERE HAVE BEEN PRETTY LARGE COMMON. 
          THE COUNTY REC CENTER'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND IN OUR PARKING LOT FOR TOWER PARK IS NEXT DOOR TO THAT. 
          SO IF YOU DID HAVE A LARGE, LARGE, LIKE A, LIKE ON 11TH DAY OF NOVEMBER AT 11TH AM WE DECIDE TO HAVE A BIG VETERANS EVENT, THERE'S STILL AMPLE PARKING AROUND THERE AND I'M SURE THE COUNTY WOULD PARTNER WITH US. 
          SO, UM, EVEN THOUGH THE HEADQUARTERS PARKING, IF POLICE HAVE SOME ACTIVITY GOING ON WITH CITIZENS WHEN THERE'S ANOTHER EVENT THAT MIGHT BE, BUT, BUT IT'S UH, HOW MANY SPACES ARE THERE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING? UM, WAS ABOUT 50. 
          I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. 
          I SHOULD KNOW, BUT I DON'T, I SHOULD TOO. 
          FROM WHEN WE APPROVED IT, IT LOOKS LIKE 67 YEARS, EIGHT YEARS AGO, 65, 70 IS PROBABLY A GOOD GUESS. 
          60. 
          I I THINK AT LEAST 50. 
          THAT MANY. 
          REALLY? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO, AND BUT THERE'S MANY, MANY, AND I'VE BEEN AT EVENTS POLICE HEADQUARTERS WHERE I PARKED AT THE REC CENTER AND JUST WALKED OVER BECAUSE, WELL THE RIBBON CUTTING WAS ONE BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF THE TENTS AND STUFF OUT ALREADY SET UP OUT IN THE PARKING LOT. 
          WELL, HOW MANY EVENTS ARE THEY GONNA HAVE AT THIS MONUMENT DURING THE YEAR? I, AND I DON'T SEE THAT MANY. 
          I DON'T EITHER. 
          ONE, TWO, I MEAN THE ONE IN FRANKLIN THEY HAVE ONCE A YEAR. 
          I DON'T EITHER. 
          I PICTURE IT MORE THAT MAYBE A FAMILY GROUP GOES AND, AND, AND SEES IT QUIET, THEN THAT'S QUIET PLACE THE TURN AND PLAY PASSING ON TO THEIR CHILDREN. 
          THE, YOU KNOW, SERVICE AND YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          TALKING ABOUT, AND WHEN I WAS A CHILD, MY FAMILY DID THIS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS RELATIVE SERVED HERE AND THIS RELATIVE SERVED HERE. 
          AND WE WOULD GO TO, UM, MONUMENTS LIKE THIS. 
          BUT, UM, YOU DO HAVE GEESE THERE . 
          AND, UH, THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY AN ISSUE. 
          I JUST THINK TAKING INTO ACCOUNT HARING AND RESTROOMS AS REAL FACTORS WHEN YOU MIGHT ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO THINGS A YEAR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY I WISH PEOPLE WERE MORE PATRIOTIC. 
          BUT YOU, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. 
          I REALLY DON'T. 
          I DON'T. 
          UNLESS THEY'RE LIKE THERE A VETERANS GROUP TO DETERMINES AT SOME POINT THEY DO WANT TO HAVE A VETERAN'S DAY CELEBRATION, BUT THAT'LL ONLY BE ONE DAY A YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          GENERALLY THEY HAVE IT ON NOVEMBER 11TH, WHETHER IT'S ON A SUNDAY OR WEDNESDAY. 
          AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE COMPETING EVENTS ON THAT DAY TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE WAS ONE OTHER SITE WE DID FIND CLOSE TO HERE THAT I THOUGHT WAS, UH, WAS VERY GOOD. 
          UH, IT'S NOT, HE PUT IT UP, BUT IT'S, IT'S AT THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT OF TOWER PARK. 
          UH, IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY BEAUTIFUL AREA. 
          I'D NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 
          AND ACTUALLY I DON'T REMEMBER IF YOU OR DAVE BUNT. 
          DAVE. 
          DAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND HE SAID, WELL THERE IS ONE OTHER SPOT. 
          IT'S PERFECTLY FLAT AND EVERYTHING, THERE'S A TRAIL BACK THERE. 
          THE PROBLEM IS A PORTION OF IT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN. 
          AND PERSONALLY I DIDN'T WANT FOR THE CITY AND CITIZENS TO, TO HAVE A CHALLENGE ALREADY WHEN YOU'RE CHOOSING A SITE THAT MIGHT BE REALLY HARD TO, TO, TO DO. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THAT'S A GREAT SITE. 
          IT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED, UM, ALL OF THAT. 
          BUT PERSONALLY, I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BUILD 
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SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IT IN A CHALLENGING PLACE. 
          UM, SO WHERE DOES THIS PICTURE SHOW? SO THIS PICTURE IS SHOWING YOU THE, THE 100 YEAR FLOOD IS, IS IN ORANGE AND THE 500 YEAR IS IN YELLOW. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SO YOU COULD BUILD HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH ANY BIG HOOPS AND HURDLES 'CAUSE IT'S THE 500 WITHIN THE 100 YOU WOULD NEED TO DO COMPENSATING, CUT AND FILL AND BE. 
          HOW BIG ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TODD? THERE MIGHT BE A, THIS THING SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE JEFFERSON MONUMENT OR SOMETHING. 
          NOT QUITE THAT BIG. 
          WE DO THAT MUCH. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S GETTING, I'M ALL FOR A MONUMENT, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS MUSHROOMING AND MUSHROOMING AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          MY SENSE IS IT IS GONNA BE, AND THE COMMITTEE HAS OF COURSE THE SITE WILL DETERMINE THAT. 
          BUT FROM THE FIRST MEETING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, YOUR FIRST MEETING OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS A WHOLE LOT OF SITE IN THE FIRST SITE. 
          PEOPLE INTRODUCING THEMSELVES AND WHATEVER. 
          BUT IT DID SEEM TO BE A GOOD CONSENSUS OF A PLAZA WITH POSSIBLY TWO OR THREE SMALLER MONUMENTS, MAYBE SOME BENCHES, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          UM, MAYBE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT DOING. 
          REMEMBER AT THE PARK, AT THE FACE OF THE STEPS FROM THE HILL CENTER DOWN, WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING A PLAZA WITH SOME BENCHES JUST FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THERE. 
          AND THEN WE DETERMINED THE COST OF IT REALLY WASN'T WORTH DOING THAT. 
          PERSONALLY. 
          I'VE REFLECTED TO THE COMMITTEE THAT THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF IT WILL BE VERY MUCH DETERMINED BY HOW MUCH MONEY THEY RAISE. 
          UM, I'M HOPING HOW BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT A PICTURE OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR YES. 
          TO CONTRIBUTE MONEY. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL WORK ON, UH, PROBABLY IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MEETINGS. 
          SO WE CAN GO AND GET OUR FUNDRAISING, UH, REALLY IN GEAR. 
          WELL IS IT A VETERAN'S DAY MONUMENT OR A MEMORIAL DAY? 'CAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. 
          IT'S A VETERAN'S MONUMENT. 
          BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THOSE VETERANS WHO SACRIFICED IN BATTLE, IT CAN BE A MEMORIAL TO THEM AS WELL BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY WERE THEY, YOU KNOW, THE VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS OR DOMESTIC ACTIVITIES OR WHATEVER. 
          SO, UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S MAINLY GEARED TOWARDS VETERANS AND THINKING. 
          ARE VETERANS OKAY. 
          NOT A MEMORIAL DAY? NO. 
          NO, NOT AS MUCH. 
          NOT THAT SOME VETERANS GROUP OR SOMEBODY DOESN'T GO THERE ON MEMORIAL DAY. 
          IT'S MEETING PLACE IN BRENTWOOD. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M PICTURING IF YOU WENT TO THE SITE THAT IT'S AT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS, IT'S NOT A LARGE NOW IF YOU WENT ALL AROUND THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS, THAT FIELD BY THE POND IS FAIRLY BIG. 
          IT'S NOT A REAL LARGE AREA. 
          UM, SO THAT IN AND OF ITSELF WILL LIMIT THE SCOPE OF WHAT, WHAT CAN BE DONE. 
          AND I DON'T PICTURE ANY KIND OF BIG STRUCTURED ANYTHING. 
          IT'S MORE, I THINK GONNA BE LIKE A PLAZA. 
          GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE YOU HAD UP THERE SHOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PARK, THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD TO 500 YEAR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE, THE DOG PARK'S GONNA BE MOVING FROM TOWER PARK IS SOMETHING, WHEN YOU FIRST SAID TOWER PARK, I WAS PICTURING OVER THERE, WHICH I'M GLAD TO SIT, THIS IS ACTUALLY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE RIGHT CENTER PARKING LOT. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY IF YOU SAID TOWER PARK. 
          TOWER PARK PARKING LOT. 
          YES SIR. 
          IT'S A VERY CORNER UP THERE. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A TREE OF THAT PARKING LOT. 
          AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO GIVE UP A LOT OF PARKING, BUT DOES THAT GIVE YOU A PARKING LOT? GIVE YOU A LOCATION SECURE? DO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A LOT THAT YOU COULD SEE WHAT I'M  I I'M SORRY YOU'RE POINTING OUT THE TREE FOR OR YOU MEAN YOU MEAN MEAN JUST THE, LET ME JUST RIGHT HERE. 
          THIS THIS WHOLE CORNER OF THE PARKING LOT. 
          CAN YOU JUST TAKE THE CORNER OF THE PARKING LOT? 'CAUSE YOU, YOU THEN HAVE, YOU'D HAVE PARKING RIGHT THERE, ALL THAT YOU'D NEED. 
          UM, TAKE THE CORNER AND DO WHAT WITH IT? PUT THE MONUMENT THERE. 
          OH, THAT'S ITTY BITTY . 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S ABOUT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ABOUT ONE, MAYBE ONE AND A HALF PARKING SPACES. 
          SO I THINK THIS WILL BE A LITTLE, THE WHOLE PARKING LOT. 
          NO, THE CORNER. 
          THE CORNER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST TAKING THIS SPOT RIGHT HERE. 
          YEAH, JUST TAKE THAT. 
          I THINK THAT'D BE A UP MUCH TOO SMALL. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IT IT CITY BUSY THE SIZE AND I'VE GONE BACK, I LIKE THIS SITE BECAUSE NO GEESE  AND EVERYBODY'S VERY EXPERIENCED WITH BEING AROUND LIKE GEESE. 
          THEY CAN BE, UH, BEAUTIFUL CREATURES, BUT THEY CAN BE A MENACE. 
          UM, BUT IT, AND IF THE COMMISSION SAYS, WELL ACTUALLY WE LIKE THIS SITE. 
          I FIGURED IT WAS CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS THAT POLICE CAN PATROL THROUGH THEIR REGULARLY AS THEY GO IN AND OUT IF WE START HAVING A PROBLEM. 
          BUT, AND IT'S VERY FLAT. 
          UH, IT HAS A WALKING TRAIL THAT COMES INTO THE BACKSIDE OF IT. 
          I ACTUALLY LIKED IT A LOT. 
          IT'S UM, AND THEN MY 
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SECOND CHOICE AFTER, IS THIS THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? UHHUH. 
           AND I HAD NEVER, I, I'D BEEN IN THAT PARKING LOT SEVERAL TIMES. 
          BUT LIKE YOU OFTEN DO. 
          YOU PARK IN A PARKING LOT IN THE MIDDLE, YOU DON'T PAY ANY ATTENTION 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT. 
          IT'S A REALLY NICE SITE. 
          UM, WE'RE THE, THERE WAS, JAY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE'S PROBABLY PLENTY OF SPACE TO PUT THE, THE WHATEVER PLAZA MONUMENT WE WOULD HAVE THERE WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD OR ANY OF THE, THE THINGS GOING WITH IT. 
          THE ONE DRAWBACK IS YOU WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO PUT SOME SORT OF BATHROOM FACILITY THERE, BUT IT WOULD ALSO, THIS TRAIL, IT WOULD ALSO SERVE THE TRAIL DURING PARK HOURS. 
          THE PARKING LOT CLOSES OFF AT, AT SUNDOWN. 
          SO ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO GO IN FOR ANY NEFARIOUS REASONS WOULD HAVE TO GO IN FROM THEIR OWN FOOT. 
          UH, OF COURSE THERE ARE SUCH NEAT THINGS LIKE SECURITY CAMERAS AND STUFF THAT YOU CAN PUT ON THINGS. 
          BUT YOU'LL HAVE, YOU PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO PUT A RESTROOM FACILITY THERE. 
          AND, UH, THE, THE ELECTRICITY, I IMAGINE SEWERS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE ANY HARDER TO PUT THERE THAN ANYWHERE EXCEPT AT THE PARK. 
          YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT IN A RESTROOM AND TECHNICALLY THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS UNLESS YOU HAD A BIG EVENT AND THEN THAT WHOEVER HAD THE BIG EVENT WOULD HAVE TO BRING IN LIKE PORTA-POTTIES OR WHATEVER FOR THE EVENT. 
          LIKE YOU WOULD ANY BIG EVENT. 
          BUT I GET, I ASSUME THE RESTROOMS YOU WERE SPEAKING OF WERE IN THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          YES SIR. 
          SO THE, THE ONE DRAWBACK THERE IS IT WILL TAKE MORE SITE WORK, UH, NOT LEVELING IN IT STUFF, BUT YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO PUT A, JUST A SINGLE MEN AND WOMEN'S RESTROOM PROBABLY CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAVE IN SOME OF OUR PARKS. 
          BUT, UM, WHEN THE RESTROOM COST MIGHT END UP BEING AS BIG, BIG AS A MONUMENT COST. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THEN WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THOUGH THAT POSSIBLY, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE DUAL USE, I THINK KEN'S MENTIONED, BUT THAT PEOPLE USING THE PARK, SO SOME OF IT COULD COME OUT OF A PARK'S BUDGET. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOULD THINK THAT WE COULD RATIONALIZE IT THAT WAY, BUT WE WOULDN'T PUT A RESTROOM RIGHT BACK THERE IF THERE WASN'T A MONUMENT BACK THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOCIAL. 
          THEY CAN RAISE THE MONEY, LET THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, LET THE CITIZENS GROUP RAISE THE MONEY IF THEY CAN. 
          AND CHIEF, IS THIS AN AREA, LIKE IS IS IT, IS THERE EVER A PARKING LOT PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, AFTER GAMES OR LIKE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO WORRY THAT? 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S THE PARENT PICKUP SPOT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT VANDALISM OR JUST MISCHIEF AND MISCHIEF AND MISCHIEF IN GENERAL. 
          I MEAN THAT, THAT PARKING LOT FILLS UP WITH GAMES. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, OUR PARKING LOT FILLS UP WHEN THERE'S SWIM MEETS. 
          UH, PEOPLE JUST MOSEY OVER INTO THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO OUR, OUR LOT FILLS UP MORE THAN WHAT PEOPLE WOULD, BUT YOU WOULDN'T, BUT THERE'S, THERE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY, UH, DESTRUCTION, VANDALISM KIND OF STUFF ASSOCIATED WITH THE, WITH CROWD PEOPLE IN THAT. 
          NO. 
          AND THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ELSE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. 
          SO WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOW DOES THE COMMITTEE FEEL ABOUT THIS SPOT? WE, WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T TALK A LOT ABOUT LOCATION WITH THE COMMITTEE EXCEPT IN A GENERAL SENSE BECAUSE, AND I AGREE. 
          I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE COMMISSION. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS CITY PROPERTY WHICH HAS VALUE. 
          WHETHER WE PUT A VALUE ON IT OR NOT, IT HAS VALUE. 
          AND SO I FELT LIKE ANY DECISION OF THAT NATURE NEEDED TO BE MADE BY COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE ELECTED, NOT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. 
          SO THE LOCATION IS GONNA BE DECIDED BY US. 
          SO WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT THE SITE IS BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP US IN INITIAL DRAWINGS AND THOUGHTS OF WHAT THE SCOPE OF IT IS SO THAT WE CAN START FUNDRAISING AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS WHERE IT'S GONNA BE. 
          THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE SIZE OF IT. 
          SOME OF THIS COULD CHANGE, BUT, AND THIS IS A GENERAL LOOK OF IT. 
          UM, I LIKE THE, I LIKE THE SERENITY OF THE POLICE. 
          THAT'S A PRETTY VIEW. 
          YES, IT IS. 
          I I ALSO LIKE THE ACCESSIBILITY FROM THE BIKE TRAIL TO THIS AND THE PARKING. 
          IT'S, I'M KIND OF TORN BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          I'D LIKE THIS ORVIS VISUAL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, 'CAUSE PEOPLE, UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO THE HERITAGE OR UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO GO TO POLICE HEADQUARTERS, UM, YOU, YOU WON'T SEE IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THIS, IT'S GONNA BE PEOPLE GOING TO THE REC CENTER. 
          ARE PEOPLE GOING TO USE TOWER PARK PEOPLE ON THE TRAILS? SO JUST IN TERMS OF A MORE FREQUENT REMINDER ABOUT VETERANS AND VETERAN SERVICE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          I LIKE THIS SITE. 
          UM, EVEN WITH A MAYBE ADDED COST, BUT WELL THEN THAT MAY BE A A, I GUESS A QUESTION, SO WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, 
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UM, IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS GONNA BE MORE OF A DESTINATION OR KIND OF A CASUAL CONTACT SEE IT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT NECESSARILY SEEKING IT. 
          AND I MEAN ALONG THOSE LINES, I MEAN I GUESS THIS AREA MAY BE MORE OF A SEEING IT WITHOUT SEEKING IT THAN I THINK, I MEAN, I, I SEE CROCKETT PARK IS HAVING 10 TIMES THE ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW, OF THIS PARKING LOT. 
          OH, C**K PARK PROBABLY HAS 150 TIMES THE ACTIVITY OF THIS PARKING LOT. 
          YEAH. 
          FAIR AMOUNT OR FAIR POINT. 
          SO THIS 'CAUSE LIKE, I, I DON'T, I FEEL LIKE THIS SITS SO FAR BELOW THE, THE ABOVE PARKING LOT AND IT'S WOODED VERSUS THE OTHER PARKING LOT. 
          I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING IN THAT SPECIFIC LOT AND REALLY AT THE BACK OF THAT SPECIFIC LOT THAT WOULD SEE IT CASUALLY. 
          SO BOTH THIS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STRIKE ME AS DESTINATION LOCATIONS. 
          AND I THINK THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS PROBABLY WOULD GET MORE VISIBILITY OF CITIZENS TO GO, OH, WHAT'S THIS? OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE WE HAD A VETERAN'S MONUMENT THAT THIS WOULD, BUT ALSO SOMEONE WAS SEEKING IT. 
          LIKE THEY'RE SEEKING A GOOGLE MAP OR SOMETHING LOOKING FOR IT. 
          I THINK THEY'D FIND IT AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MUCH MORE EASILY THAN THEY'D FIND IT HERE. 
          CORRECT. 
          BECAUSE THIS PART I I'M LIKE YOU, I I KIND OF LIKE THE VISUAL OF CROCKETT PARK. 
          JUST, I LIKE PEOPLE DRI DRIVING BY, NOT NECESSARILY SHARP, BUT JUST PEOPLE IN THE CAR. 
          THEN YOU'D HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE. 
          THIS IS THE VETERAN'S MONUMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          I I JUST PREFER A CROCKETT PART. 
          MY FEAR OF CROCKETT FROM BEING THERE SO MUCH, IT WAS EVEN MONTHS AGO WHEN THAT WAS FIRST MENTIONED, IS I ACTUALLY THINK IT MAY NOT BE NOTICED AS MUCH BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE GOING TO CROCKETT, THEY'RE GOING SPECIFICALLY AND LIKE, IF YOU'RE EVER THERE ON A SATURDAY MORNING OR SUNDAY AFTERNOON OR ANYTHING WHEN SOCCER OR FOOTBALL OR, OR LACROSSE OR BASEBALL OR WHATEVER GOING ON. 
          AND CROCKETT HAS SO MANY TRAILS IN AND OUT. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM. 
          I HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH DAVE WITH SOME OF THE VANDALISM AND STUFF, UH, THAT THEY HAVE SOMETIMES IS IT'S REAL HARD TO EVEN SECURE IT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE SO MANY PEDESTRIAN TRAILS IN AND OUT AND AT NIGHT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SECLUDED. 
          UH, THAT WAS MY ONLY FEAR OF, OF THAT. 
          SO, UH, BUT IT'S, UH, UM, WHEN DO WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION FOR Y'ALL TO MOVE ON? I WOULD SAY IF WE COULD DECIDE SOMETHING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, IT WOULD HELP. 
          UM, MAYBE I CAN WRITE OUT AND LOOK AT. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S, I'VE DONE IT MANY TIMES. 
          AND ACTUALLY I COULDN'T EVEN THINK OF THIS ONE UNTIL WE, WHAT WAS THAT TWO WEEKS AGO, JAY? WAS IT IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          YEAH, ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          JAY AND, AND DAVE AND I JUST LITERALLY, AND WE DROVE TO A BUNCH OF OTHER SITES THAT WE HAD THOUGHT OF, BUT FOR PRACTICAL REASONS, LIKE AT GRANNY WHITE PARK, THERE, THERE WERE REASONS WHY YOU LITERALLY COULDN'T DO IT THERE. 
          UH, SMITH PARK. 
          THERE WERE REASONS WHY WE REALLY COULDN'T DO IT THERE. 
          UM, I, THIS TOWER PARK, I DIDN'T KNOW AND I REALLY LIKED IT, BUT WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT IT'S PART OF THE FLOODWAY FRINGE, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT, ONE WOULD BE IN THE FLOODWAY WHEN IT, THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD WOULD BE IN THE FLOODWAY, THE FIVE HUNDREDS FLOOD. 
          NO, NO, THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE FLOODWAY, BUT IT IS THE, IT'S THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD AND THE FRINGE FLOOD PLAIN. 
          AND THEN, THEN THERE'S 500 YEAR, SO YOU COULD KEEP IT OUT OF, YOU KNOW, THE HUNDRED, RIGHT? YES. 
          UM, YEAH, THERE PLENTY SPACE. 
          BUT I DO THINK THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A, A, A STANDALONE RESTROOM. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WOULD BRING ABOUT MORE. 
          AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS SOMETHING THE CITY COULD TAKE CARE OF AT THE, THE COMMITTEES TAKING CARE OF ALL THE MONUMENT STUFF. 
          AND SO THAT YOU DO HAVE THAT EXPENSE THERE. 
          SO, AND, AND IT'S NOT JUST THE RESTROOM, IT'S GETTING THE UTILITIES TO IT. 
          YES. 
          SO BALLPARK 125,000, UH, MAYBE STRUCTURE OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK. 
          YES, MAAM. 
          I COUNTING NO, INCLUDING THE FACILITY ITSELF, INCLUDING THE BATHROOM BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE A PREFAB RIGHT. 
          BUT I MEAN, NOT INCLUDING THE MONEY, CORRECT. 
          NO, NO. 
          AN ADDITIONAL 125 PLUS A BUCK 25 VERSUS THE OTHER THREE LOCATIONS. 
          WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE, JUST THE AESTHETIC OF BEING IN THAT WITH THE PARKING LOT AND BACKGROUND? I MEAN, IS THAT, DOES DOES IT LOOK LIKE WE JUST PLOPPED? I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE, I'M JUST TRYING TO PICTURE, YOU KNOW, DOES IT LOOK LIKE WE JUST, WE JUST PLOT IT THERE. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY ON THAT SMALLER PIECE. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, FULL JUST PAST 
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PATROL. 
          IT WON'T BE WHEN YOU'VE GOT NO, NO, NOT HERE. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT CROCKETT. 
          NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          ITS VERY, I'M SAYING PEACEFUL BACKROCK, IT'S WOODS IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          NO, I, I LIKE THIS, BUT I'M JUST, IF WE'RE CROCK AND IT WOULD BE A, IT WOULD BE A DESTINATION. 
          AS FAR AS ACTUAL, THE PRETTIEST BACKDROP IS ACTUALLY AT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS WITH THE POND. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THE POND, BUT IT'S POLICE HEADQUARTERS IS VERY PR AS WELL. 
          AND IT'S, AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT IT, THAT TO ME IS THE PRETTIEST. 
          THIS SITE. 
          MY BIG FEAR IS, IS THAT IT'S SO BUSY THAT, THAT AT FIRST PEOPLE WILL NOTICE IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T REALLY DON'T KNOW MUCH. 
          PEOPLE ARE GONNA NOTICE IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, BUT DO DOES THE SAME NOT APPLY THOUGH TO, JUST TO ACROSS THE STREET THERE? YEAH. 
          THE OTHER, I MEAN THERE'S TWO SPOTS THERE THAT SPOT PERSONALLY, AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT I'VE NEVER CONSIDERED THAT A GOOD SITE. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          UH, IT IS JUST THE SLOW THERE AND, AND JUST WHO SPENDS AS MUCH ON SITE WORK AS WE WOULD'VE BATHROOMS FOR THE OTHER SPOT? I THINK SO. 
          AND I'M WORRIED THAT IF WE DO LIKE A PATIO TYPE THING OR PLAZA, SMALL ROUND PLAZA OR SEMI-CIRCULAR OR HOWEVER, THEN WE END UP CAUSING DRAINAGE PROBLEMS DOWN THE HILL. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO EITHER INTO THOSE PARKING LOTS OR THE MONUMENT ITSELF HAS DEBRIS ALL OVER IT. 
          EVERY TIME IT RAINS HARD, COUPLE OF WEEKS WE'LL HAVE KIM BACK AND A NEW COMMISSION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, SO THIS MAYBE WE CAN MAKE A DECISION. 
          IS THAT PART, IS THAT PART THERE THAT SMALLER LOT THAT'S PART OF THE BIKE PATH THAT GOES RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S BOUND NOT REALLY BY THE ROAD, BUT BY THE BIKE PATH. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU GET RID OF THAT BIKE PATH, THAT'S REALLY DANGEROUS TO, TO BIKE ON THAT SECTION. 
          OH YEAH. 
          THE BIKE PATH WOULD NEED TO STAY THERE IF, IF WE DID THE SITE THERE. 
          'CAUSE THAT BIKE PATH IS LOGICAL AND IT IS USED NOT JUST BY BIKES. 
          IT'S USED BY A LOT OF RUNNERS AND SKATERS AND RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          WALKERS AND EVERYTHING TALKING ABOUT THINGS, BUT GETTING LOST WITH THE DESTINATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SEVERAL 10 YEARS OR SO AGO, WE HAD A WHOLE SATURDAY EVENT AT THE, THE BRENT VALE CABIN. 
          WE USED TO DO IT IN GRANNY WHITE PARK, BUT WE, ON A SATURDAY WAS A DAY IN BRENT WAS PASSED. 
          WE HAD, UM, PEOPLE WHO SHARE SHEEP, THEY MILK GOATS THE WHOLE BIT. 
          YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS. 
          CHICK-FIL-A PROVIDED FREE FOOD TO EVERYBODY. 
          WE ALL GREAT ON A SATURDAY. 
          PEOPLE WILL BE BRINGING THEIR CHILDREN. 
          THIS IS GREAT. 
          WE, IT WAS SUCH A DISAPPOINTMENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE NOBODY STOPPED. 
          THEY WENT TO THE SOCCER GAMES. 
          YES. 
          AND THEY CAME BACK AND YOU CAN'T HAVE A MORE PROMINENT RIGHT. 
          VISUAL SPOT THAN THAT WAS. 
          I DON'T KNOW, BUT I JUST, BUT I ALSO KNOW I'M A PARENT THAT SOMETIMES HAD THREE DIFFERENT PLACES WE HAD TO BE AT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE OF ACTIVITIES WITHIN THREE HOUR PERIOD. 
          I OFTEN WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE EVEN KNOW THAT THAT'S THE COOL SPRINGS HOUSE WHEN THEY DRIVE INTO CROCKETT PARK BECAUSE, WELL, WE HAVE GOATS AND CHICKENS. 
          THAT'S EVERYTHING. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING FOR THAT. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          TO JUST BEING IN A CROWDED PLACE DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE YOU. 
          YOU SO IT GETS LOST. 
          SO THEMATICALLY, THAT WOULD TAKE ME RIGHT BACK TO POLICE HEADQUARTERS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEMATICALLY THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CLOSEST CONNECTION. 
          YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD REALLY SIT VERY PURPOSEFULLY AT HOME THERE. 
          SURE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IS THE ONLY DOWNSIDE TO POLICE HEADQUARTERS IS THE GEESE. 
          IT THAT, AND THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF NESS THERE, BUT, UM, I ASSUME THAT WE COULD DO IT, YOU KNOW, IF WE PICKED THAT AS A SITE, WE THEN DO AN ENGINEERING STUDY. 
          THEY WOULD NEED TO SEE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          TELL YOU HOW MUCH WEIGHT WILL THIS GROUND HANDLE AND, AND IF WE PUT THIS HERE, HOW MUCH RUNOFF IS IT GONNA COST? 'CAUSE I, I WOULD THINK WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW ALL THAT UP FRONT. 
          HAVING AN ALTERNATE SITE WOULDN'T BE THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD IF THAT WAS YOUR NUMBER ONE SITE. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IF PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PUT UP WITH WEIRD LOOKING GRASSES, THERE'S SOME NATURAL SOLUTIONS TO THE GE PROBLEM IN TERMS OF GETTING THEM TO NOT WALK THROUGH. 
          AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH LIKE SHORT AND HIGH GRASSES AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          WELL, JUST CONSTRUCTION PROCESS MIGHT DO IT. 
          COME, YEAH. 
          COME. 
          THEY MAY DECIDE THERE'S ANOTHER POND THEY LIKE BETTER, BUT THEY DIDN'T DURING THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. 
          SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A PRETTY BIG YEAH. 
          BIG PROCESS. 
          AND THEY REALLY LOVE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I WALKED THE GREENWAY SUB, THEY REALLY LOVE THE DETENTION POND OVER HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, YOU KNOW. 
          OH YEAH. 
          OH YEAH. 
          AND SO IT, UH, BUT YEAH, THERE ARE SOME, THEY SO WON'T LET YOU PASS THE TRAIL. 
          ESPECIALLY I THINK IT MUST BE DURING NESTING TIME. 
          AND IT'S LIKE , YOU KINDA HAVE TO SNEAK BOMB SO OFFENSIVE, DON'T THEY? YEAH. 
          UM, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO BRING THIS BACK, GIVE YOU 
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A CHANCE TO SORT OF PERCOLATE ON AND WE'LL, WE'LL SEND OUT THESE, THIS INFORMATION AND THEN COME BACK THROUGH NEXT BRIEFING. 
          WELL, AND IF YOU GUYS ARE HAVING A MEETING IN THE INTERIM, WE'LL BE HAVING A MEETING, START TALKING ABOUT SITES HAVING MEETING TUESDAY. 
          IF YOU COULD BRING THAT BACK MM-HMM . 
          TO US TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND OKAY. 
          THAT WE, WE COULD SHARE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT. 
          SO, AND OF COURSE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT ON THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO VOICE THEIR, YOU KNOW, THROUGH AN EMAIL OR PHONE CALL TO NOT, I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT'S, THERE ARE CITIZENS, I MEAN, WE ARE A LOT, LOT SHARE THAT. 
          I MEAN, IF WE DON'T NECESSARILY COMMENT ON IT AND VIOLATE OUR RULES, BUT MM-HMM . 
          THEY CAN SHARE THEIR INFORMATION ELECTRONICALLY AFTER YOUR MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          WHATEVER WITH US. 
          WELL, YOU CAN TELL THE CITIZENS WHAT YOU THINK. 
          SURE. 
          SO RAY JUST CAN'T READ IT. 
          OR EVERY, BUT RAY CAN GET, I, NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T WANNA VIOLATE ANY YEAH. 
          ANY RULES. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GOES WITH AD HOC COMMITTEES. 
          WE CAN SEND IT TO THEM ELECTRONICALLY, ASK THEM TO PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK THAT THEY HAVE ELECTRONICALLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEY CAN SEND IT DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY TO ME AND I CAN SEND IT TO YOU GUYS. 
          SO YEAH. 
          LETTING 'EM KNOW WE VALUE THEIR OPINION. 
          WE'RE NOT GIVING 'EM THE VOTE . 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, I THINK THEY'D APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO. 
          OH YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL WE CAN DO THAT AND BRING THIS BACK, UH, TO YOU IN A COUPLE WEEKS THEN. 
          UM, THANKS RYAN. 
          WE HAD ONE MORE, BUT I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND WE MOVE THIS, UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO GET TO IT. 
          THIS IS, I'M SORRY, THIS IS ON THE MARYLAND FARMS DESIGN STANDARDS. 
          IT'S REQUEST FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEIR CREDIT, THEY KEEP KIND OF LAST MEETING ASKED, WELL, WHEN ARE WE GONNA DO THAT? BUT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO STRICT TIMELINE ON THIS. 
          I KNOW. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO PLACES. 
          SO MY REC, I I, I CAN BRING, DO YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT? DO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE WAS? I'M THINKING UP ON PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          JUST IF YOU'VE ALL HEARD OF IT. 
          SO I, WELL, I KNOW THERE'S A QUESTION THAT CAME BEFORE. 
          UM, AND I, I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AT SOME POINT. 
          I I WILL MAKE THE OBSERVATION. 
          I TOLD JASON WHEN WE WERE TALKING YESTERDAY, IT'S GOT A LOT OF HAIR ON IT. 
          IT DOES. 
          I MEAN, IN, IN TERMS OF, AND IT REMINDS ME A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE, WHEN SOME OF MY MANAGERS COME AND SAY, JUST TELL ME THE RULES, I'LL ENFORCE THE RULES. 
          I WAS LIKE, THE RULE IS I WANT YOU TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          CORRECT. 
          , YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T HAVE A RULE FOR EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          I DIDN'T HIRE A CODE BOOK. 
          I HIRED A, A HUMAN THAT MAKES GOOD VALUE JUDGMENT. 
          SO YEAH. 
          BUT, BUT, BUT SETTING DESIGN CENTERS FOR AN OFFICE PARK WHEN WE REALLY WANNA HAVE A HEALTHY OFFICE PARK IS NOT JUST A SIMPLE LITTLE REQUEST. 
          RIGHT. 
          THIS IS A, AND REALLY, IT, IT WOULD BE NICE THOUGH TO HEAR FROM, FROM THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE ON, UH, CITY COMMISSION, UM, OR STAFF WHEN THE C FOUR GUIDELINES WERE DEVELOPED. 
          BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE VOTED FOR THINGS BEING BUILT OR CHANGED IN C FOUR AND HELD THEM TO THE C FOUR STANDARDS, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW THE HISTORY. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF WHY THERE WERE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR C FOUR. 
          SO LIKE, IF THAT'S SOME OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE CAN BRING TO A DISCUSSION THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          WE SHOULD CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT. 
          AND I'D LOVE TO HAVE HIM BRING IT BACK TO THIS GROUP SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IN A BRIEFING. 
          UM, AND THAT ALSO, I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED SOME ABOUT THE 2030 PLAN AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS LAST UPDATED ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO. 
          AND THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IF WE UPDATE TO A 2040 PLAN, RIGHT. 
          THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AND HOW WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT STANDARDS WE WANNA HAVE IN PLACE OR WHAT STANDARDS WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IN PLACE. 
          RIGHT. 
          JUST TO HAVE A BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR TO, TO HAVE A HEALTHY BUSINESS DISTRICT. 
          WELL, KEEPING THE CHARACTER OF BRENTWOOD. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, AND HAVING SINCE THE INPUT MIGHT BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I MEAN, I, WE'VE, I'VE HEARD SO MANY STORIES AND ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED HERE BEFORE, IN FACT, AND SPECIFICALLY HELPED US NAVIGATE IT QUITE A BIT WITH MILTON GRIEF AND OTHERS ON PLANET COMMISSION WHEN WE'RE FIRST TRYING TO BUILD A LAND ROVER STORE 30 YEARS AGO AND TRYING TO SORT THAT STUFF OUT. 
          BUT THE CURRENT PROCESS ALLOWS FOR THAT. 
          UM, WHICH, BUT YEAH. 
          SO DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO UH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          OH NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY WE'RE PAST 11 ALREADY, SO I'D REALLY STEP BACK. 
          DOES IT MAKES SENSE. 
          WE, WE'LL FIND THE HISTORY ON THE C FOUR IF WE CAN BRING 'EM BACK AND BRING THIS TOPIC BACK. 
          WELL, DON'T BRING APARTMENTS BACK WITH ATTENTION AND JUST THE DESIGN STANDARDS. 
          JUST, JUST, AND KEN, DID YOU WANT TO GIVE A QUICK, QUICK UPDATE? JUST ONE MINUTE HERE ON THIS. 
          UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, APPROVED WILL SEND A RECOMMENDATION TO US. 
          THE FINAL DECISION IS OUR RE OUR DECISION FOR, UH, LOTS AT THE GOVERNOR'S CLUB. 
          WHEN IT ORIGINALLY WAS, UH, APPROVED, THERE WAS 438 LOTS. 
          IT HAS MORPHED THROUGH THE YEARS TO 4 33. 
          THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 4 26. 
          THEY HAVE ONE LOT THAT THEY CAN CARVE OUT AND SELL, WHICH, SO THEY NEED TO DO THAT. 
          TAKES 'EM TO 4 27. 
          AND THEN THIS PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT WE LOCK THAT IN AS THAT IS THE MOST THEY CAN HAVE. 
          THEY CAN'T, CAN'T KEEP PLAYING THE GAME OF MOVING THE STUFF AROUND. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE LOCKED IN AT 4 27. 
          AND DID THEY, ARE THERE OTHER, 
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ARE THERE ANY UNBUILT LOTS RIGHT NOW IN GOVERNOR'S CLUB? THE NOT EASY BUILDS. 
          THEY SEEMED AGREEABLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY SEEM VERY AGREEABLE. 
          THEY, THEY AGREED. 
          THEY SAID THERE AREN'T, THERE'S SOME LOTS THAT ARE LEFT. 
          THERE'S SOME THAT ARE NOT BUILT ON THAT ARE APPROVED AND THAT'S OKAY. 
          BUT THEY SAID THE LAND THAT'S REMAINING REALLY WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO BUILD ON. 
          SO THEY'RE AGREEABLE TO GO WITH 4 27 AND THAT LOT. 
          'CAUSE I HAD SEVERAL RESIDENTS CONTACT ME IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS THAT LOT. 
          I WENT AND ACTUALLY SAW, SO I COULD SEE IT IN THE SOUTH. 
          IT'S ALREADY GOT LIKE SEWER TAP IT. 
          IT WAS ALREADY FLATTERED OUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND EVERYTHING, THEY DID SOME CHANGE AND IT IS BUILDABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEY DID SOME TRADING AND . 
          YEAH. 
          THE ONE THING THAT I ASKED, I ASKED WHEN THEY COME TO US THAT THEY BRING LETTERS FROM THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE THAT THERE WERE APPROVAL. 
          I SAID, HAVE THE NEIGHBORS APPROVED? AND HE SAID, OH YEAH. 
          I SAID, CAN I SEE THAT? OH, THEY JUST TOLD ME THEY APPROVED . 
          I SAID, I REALLY WANNA SEE SOMETHING IN WRITING BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE MAY HAVE BOUGHT THOSE LOTS THINKING THAT WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE OPEN SPACE. 
          AND WE CAN GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT LATER. 
          WELL, I THINK I KNOW THE LOT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND ONE OF THE ORIGINAL HOMEOWNERS CONTACTED ME A WHILE BACK AND, UH, SHE, SHE WAS SATISFIED AS LONG AS IT WAS A BUILDABLE LOT. 
          SHE SAID SHE THOUGHT IT WAS, UM, KINDA LIKE A DITCH. 
          YOU MIGHT REMEMBER TODD I'VE TALKED TO IF WE TALKED ABOUT THE SAME LOT. 
          AND SO SHE WAS OKAY. 
          SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY WILL BE THAT WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S NEAR THE CROCKETT ENTRANCE. 
          HAVE IT'S WEST SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WHO IS IT THAT KEEPS UP WITH, UM, AT THE YEARLY ESCROW, AT THE GOVERNOR'S CLUBS FOR THOSE PRIVATE STREETS THAT WE, WE NEED AN ACCOUNTING OF BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN STREETS. 
          SO WE HAVE AN ARRANGEMENT AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, UH, ADVISE US SURELY ON HOW THAT STANDS. 
          DO YOU KNOW, TODD? WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE GOT THOSE NUMBERS? I, WE'LL DO SOME RESEARCH AND TRY TO FIND OUT. 
          YEAH, LET'S CHECK. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S HER MAIN PURPOSE IN THIS LIBRARY IS TO, TO GET THE MONEY. 
          I MEAN, THAT, AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT IF THAT LOT SELLS, IT'S GONNA GO IN THAT ROAD FUND. 
          RIGHT. 
          WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THEIR POA. 
          BUT WE STILL NEED TO KNOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I MEAN YEAH. 
          ISSUE BECAUSE OVER, LIKE IN MORELAND ESTATE, WHEN IT WAS BUILT SO MANY YEARS AGO, THEY WEREN'T COLLECTING FEES TO REPAIR THEIR ROADS. 
          AND THEN SO WHEN THEY WERE REALLY BAD, THEY CAME TO THE CITY AND WANTED US TO REPAIR THEM ALL. 
          WELL, IT WOULD'VE BEEN MILLIONS TO DO THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THEY HAD TO COME UP, THE CITY DID NOT WITH GOVERNOR CLUB. 
          THEY SAID, IF YOU WANT PRIVATE ONES, YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THE MONEY'S THERE EVERY YEAR. 
          WELL, SAME WITH THE WATER SEWER, THE NASHVILLE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THAT WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY DID THAT. 
          AND THEY HAD NOT BEEN COLLECTING OVER THE YEARS AND THEY'VE NOT KEPT THAT UP. 
          AND THE C'S LIKE, WELL, I FORGET WHAT IT WAS LIKE $30 MILLION. 
          WELL, IF YOU WANNA SPEND THE $30 MILLION YEAH, IT, GET IT UP TO CITY STANDARDS, THEN WE'LL TAKE YOU INTO OUR SEWER SYSTEM. 
          BUT WE CAN'T OTHERWISE WE WEREN'T EVEN LIVING HERE THEN. 
          BUT IT WASN'T MORELAND, UH, ANNEXED AT ONE POINT INTO THE CITY. 
          IT WAS ALREADY BUILT. 
          IT WAS. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          TODD IS THE GO, YOU KNOW, WHEN EVERY MONTH YOU DO THE, EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE PART OF THE MEETING WHERE YOU PRESENT THE ESCROW REPORT, UM, ARE THEY, I DON'T RECALL SEEING A LINE ITEM FOR THAT EVER. 
          NO. 
          WE, WE HAVE NO SECURITY FOR THE GOVERNOR'S CLUB. 
          IT, IT'S MORE OF TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOAS ARE DOING IT BECAUSE IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY AND THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA LEAVE THEIR RESIDENTS HIGH AND DRY BECAUSE THEY FAILED TO PROVIDE FOR IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WE'RE NOT LIKE TONIGHT. 
          LET'S CHECK WITH THEM AND FIND OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD. 
          WE, YES, THIS WORKS VERY, VERY WELL. 
          SHE ALL SITS AROUND THE ROOM. 
          NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
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