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[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing May 8, 2025 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the May 12th Agenda, the items below will be discussed: Discussion on Volunteer Board member appointments policy Veterans Memorial Ad Hoc Committee Guidelines This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
SO IF, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THIS MORNING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN YOU'RE USED TO, UH, IT'S NOT A PURE IGNORANT, IT'S NOT A CHANGE.SO YOU CAN JUST SAY, HEY, JASON, UM, UH, I WANNA WELCOME KIM AND JANET CONGRATULATE YOU.
UH, RAY CONGRATULATE YOU AS WELL.
SO, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST HERE, I GOTTA MAKE SURE I COORDINATE MYSELF QUICK.
SO GO THROUGH THE MAY 12TH AGENDA, UH, OBVIOUSLY CALLED ORDER BY THE MAYOR, UH, ROLL CALL INVOCATION AND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
AND THEN, UH, OATH OF OFFICE FOR THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS IN AN ELECTION OF MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, WE OBTAIN INTEREST TODAY WHO'S INTERESTED IN MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR, AND THEN THERE'S A BALLOT THAT'S PROVIDED TO YOU IN THE MEETING.
SO START WITH MAYOR, UH, WHO'S INTERESTED IN BEING, UH, DEVELOPED WHITE, WHO'S SWEARING PEOPLE IN, UH, UH, THE ROGER ANDERSON? YES.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DEFAULT, I BELIEVE.
YEAH, I'M INTERESTED IN MAYOR.
ANY OTHERS? AND I'M INTERESTED IN VICE MAYOR.
I'M INTERESTED IN VICE MAYOR WHO'S, WHO HAVE WE GOT SO FAR? WE HAVE NELSON AND KEN FOR MAYOR AND RAY AND SUSANNA, THE VICE MAYOR.
WE'LL PREPARE THE BALLOT, SO, GOT IT.
AND AFTER, AFTER THAT, WE'LL OF COURSE, UH, APPROVE OR CORRECT THE MINUTES FOR APPROVAL OBJECTION THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME OR NOT, BUT IF WE HAVE THAT DISRUPTOR THERE AGAIN THIS WEEK, I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
WE DON'T WANT HIM DISRUPTING, ESPECIALLY THIS VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE MEETING, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM
UM, YEAH, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ON IT.
UH, SO BEGINNING WITH OUR AGENDA, COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS REPORT FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND REPORT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND REPORT COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR.
COULD WE GO BACK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY REPORT? SURE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT REPORT'S GONNA INVOLVE, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU YESTERDAY.
UM, I SAW HER UP HERE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AT THE RETIREMENT PARTY, AND I ASKED HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAD SPENT SO FAR ON THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS VOTED ON TO INVESTIGATE COMMISSIONER LITTLE MM-HMM
AND SHE TOLD ME NONE BECAUSE HE HAD NOT BEEN HIRED.
WELL, WE ALL GOT AN EMAIL ASKING US TO AUTHORIZE HER TO HIRE HIM, AND I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD.
I AUTHORIZED, BUT I LET HER KNOW I WAS WILLING TO PAY THE ATTORNEY.
I DID NOT WANT TO QUASH THAT REPORT.
I WAS HOPING IT WOULD BE OUT BEFORE THE ELECTION.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO VOTED TO PAY AND WHO DID NOT.
I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS AFTER DISCUSSING AT THE LAST MEETING THAT NEEDED, FELT THEY NEEDED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH.
UM, BUT I HAVE HEARD ON WHAT, ON, ON THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS PROPOSED ON, UM, MS. GAIL VAUGHN ASHWORTH, THAT WAS THE ATTORNEY I PROPOSED.
I HEARD FROM YOU, UH, AS A GO AHEAD.
AND I HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER ANDREWS AS A GO AHEAD.
SO, UM, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY I I THOUGHT I DID TOO.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU NEEDED MORE.
SO SINCE YOU NEEDED FOUR OF US, I DID.
I THOUGHT THAT YOU ALL WELL, WE HAD DISCUSSION.
I DON'T THINK SHE REALIZED THAT WAS A YEAH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU NEEDED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH NEEDED.
YOU ONLY GOT TWO VOTES TO GO AHEAD AND PAY THE ATTORNEY.
OH, WELL, FOUR VOTES FOR, AND, AND, AND I CAN REACH OUT TO HER TODAY.
SHE HAD SENT THE, UM, ENGAGEMENT LETTER THAT I FORWARDED TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR REVIEW.
AND AGAIN, BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE WELL UNDER $25,000, UM, I FELT COMFORTABLE WITH Y'ALL'S AFFIRMATION.
WELL, AS YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE EVEN NEEDED IT, BUT SINCE WE I UNDERSTAND, VOTED TO DO IT, I WOULD LIKE HIS NAME CLEARED AND I THINK THE INVESTIGATION WILL DO THAT.
SO I WILL REACH OUT TO THE ATTORNEY TODAY AND TELL HER TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
AND AS WE HAD TALKED IN THE PROCESS, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF LOOK AT JUST THE POLICY AND MAKE SOME PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON MAYBE CHALLENGES OF COMING TO A CONCLUSION BECAUSE THE POLICY NOT BEING QUITE CLEAR ENOUGH OR HOW TO KIND OF, WHERE THE HOLES WERE, WHERE WE NEEDED TO KIND OF, AGAIN, ALL SHE'LL BE LOOKING AT RIGHT.
IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT COMMISSIONER LITTLE USED HIS POSITION OR AUTHORITY WHEN HE REQUESTED, UM, MS. VAN WARNER TO HELP HIM RECALL
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A MESSAGE.UM, THAT'S ALL THAT SHE WILL BE LOOKING AT, SO RIGHT.
BUT SHE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE POLICY AND COMPARE IT.
'CAUSE WE HAD TALKED AND YOU HAD SAID YES.
SHE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND KIND OF JUST SEE, YES, YES.
IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DO THIS OR WHATEVER.
BECAUSE OF THIS POLICY, I DO RECOMMEND, OR SHE MAY, SHE VERY WELL MAY YES.
GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO KIND OF MM-HMM
UM, THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE IS APPROVAL TO, UH, PURCHASE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE IN, UH, WITH CENTRAL SQUARE FOR ENTERPRISE, UH, COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH, RECORD MANAGEMENT, CRIME MAPPING, AND FIELD OPS SOFTWARE.
THIS IS ONE I THINK YOU PROBABLY MOST OF YOU AT LEAST HAVE SEEN BEFORE.
UM, IT'S AN ANNUAL, UH, APPROVAL FOR THESE SOFTWARE AGREEMENTS.
UH, THE TOTAL FOR THE, UH, UPCOMING YEAR IS, UH, $156,225 AND 65 CENTS.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? WE HAVE THE PEOPLE HERE TO ANSWER 'EM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THE, UH, NEXT ITEM IS AN APPROVAL TO PAY AN INVOICE FOR, UH, WELL, THOSE OR EMERGENCY REPAIRS ENGINE 51 IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THAT WAS A, THAT'S A HUMBLING, UH, LITTLE ACCIDENT WE HAD AND, UH, WHERE ONE, UH, THE TRUCK, UH, AFFECTED THE OTHER AND CAUSED SOME DAMAGE.
AND, UH, IN THE INTERIM, UH, JAY FELT, AND I TOTALLY AGREE, WE NEED TO GET THAT TRUCK FIXED.
SO IT WAS, UH, DONE AS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR.
UH, THE, THE TOTAL, UH, OF THAT IS, UH, $33,252 AND 52 CENTS.
UM, THE LAST THAT WE KNEW, AND WE'LL GET AN UPDATE, WAS THAT THE REPAIR WAS GOING TO BE COMPLETED LAST WEEK ON THE THIRD.
AND THE ENGINE, UH, PICKED UP RIGHT AROUND THE FOURTH OR THE FIFTH.
UM, I WILL LOOK TO BATTALION CHIEF HARBOR.
WHERE IS HE SITTING? THERE HE IS BACK THERE TO, JUST TO KINDA GET AN UPDATE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE READY TODAY.
THE FLEET MANAGER IS ON A PLANE RIGHT NOW TO GO TO TEXAS AND BRING IT BACK TODAY.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY IT'LL ROLL IN HERE LATER TONIGHT OR TOMORROW MORNING.
DID WE MISS AN EMAIL? UM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING ABOUT THIS.
AND THAT, AND THAT ONE I MISSED.
UM, AND I, WE FILED FOR INSURANCE, ACTUALLY, WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED PAYMENT FOR IT.
BUT YOU DID NOT BECAUSE I, I MISSED SENDING YOU GUYS EMAIL ON THAT, BUT IT WAS, UH, UH, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS FRIENDLY FIRE
AND THEN OUR, UH, THAT FIREFIGHTER JUST HAPPENED TO RETIRE RIGHT AFTER THAT.
SO, AND, AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAVE UNFORTUNATE OCCURRENCES LIKE THIS ON OCCASION, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH OUR BUSINESS OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SOMETIMES HAVE TO KIND OF THINK OF IT AS TRAINING EXPENSE.
AND, UM, SO WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT HAPPENED, WELL, SOMEBODY THAT RETIRED IS HAVING A TRAINING EXPENSE.
I MEAN, IF THE OTHER PEOPLE CAN GO TO SCHOOL ON WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT LED TO WHAT LED TO THE ACCIDENT, IF, IF THERE'S ANY TRAINING OPPORTUNITY OR LESSON TO BE LEARNED HERE, I HOPE WE, UH, TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF IT.
SO WE CONSIDER THIS A TRAINING EXPENSE AND NOT JUST A DEAD LOSS.
THAT INDIVIDUAL HAD GONE, WHAT, 30 YEARS? WELL, 30 YEARS WITH NO ACCIDENTS IN LIKE TWO WEEKS BEFORE SAID RETIRE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HE'S GOING TO SMYRNA NOW.
UH, MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE NORTON AMENDING YOUR CODE, UH, REGARDING SIGNS ALLOWED IN SERVICE INSTITUTION DISTRICTS.
IT'S FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE FIRST READING, AND AGAIN, YOU MAY BE SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT, UH, THIS IS, UH, DEALING WITH SCOREBOARDS.
AND IT'S A REQUEST, UH, FROM THE, UH, IT'S, UH, FROM THE PRIVATE, UH, COL OR PRIVATE COLLEGE, PRIVATE HIGH SCHOOL AND TOWN.
UM, AND, UH, LET'S SEE HERE, BRENTWOOD ACADEMY.
AND IT HAS TO DO WITH PARITY WITH THE SIZE AND THE DISPLAY AREA, DIGITAL DISPLAY AREA OF SCOREBOARDS.
UH, LET ME SEE IF WE'VE GOT THAT OTHER, THAT'S THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE RIGHT THERE.
UM, AND SO BASICALLY THE, THE SITUATION IS, IS THE, UH, THEY LOOKED AT RAVENWOOD HIGH SCHOOL AND, UH, UH, IN THAT CASE, THEIR SCOREBOARD DOES EXCEED THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS YOU HAVE IN YOUR ZONING CODE.
THEY CAN'T ALLOW, THEY CAN'T ACCEPT THEMSELVES, UH, OBVIOUSLY AS A COUNTY ENTITY.
AND IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE THAT HAPPENED.
AND SO WE'RE BASICALLY BEING ASKED BY BRENTWOOD ACADEMY, UH, AS PRIVATE AND IN THE SERVICE INSTITUTIONAL DISTRICT TO HAVE PARITY SO THAT THEY COULD, IN ESSENCE HAVE THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR, UH, TO WHAT THEY'VE SEEN, UH, WITH THE, UH, RAVENWOOD HIGH SCHOOL SCOREBOARD.
AND SO IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT PARODY, IT DOES TAKE A CHANGE, UH, A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE ZONING CODE.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN, IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT HERE.
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UM, REAL QUICK, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT IT DOES, IT INCREASES THE SIZE ALLOWANCE FOR THE ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY FROM 200 SQUARE FEET TO 710.AND SOME OTHER MODIFICATIONS YOU HAVE, THERE ARE FOUR.
ONE IS ELECTRONIC ACCESS DISPLAY CAN BE USED ANYTIME FOR SCORE TIMEKEEPING ONLY.
A MAXIMUM OF 100 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL ADVERTISING AREA WILL BE ALLOWED ON THE SCOREBOARD STRUCTURE.
AND THE SCOREBOARD, ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY MAY NOT EXCEED A HEIGHT OF 40 FEET.
AND FINALLY, ONLY ONE SINGLE-SIDED ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY WOULD BE ALLOWED, UH, PER CAMPUS.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE PARAMETERS.
I BELIEVE THIS, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR BACK, BUT AT SOME POINT BACK, UH, BACK IN, IN THE PAST, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO YOU AS AN ITEM OF DISCUSSION.
UH, AND YOU'D ASK STAFF TO EVALUATE THE, UH, ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY SCOREBOARDS, DRAFT ADVISED LANGUAGE FOR THE SUBSECTION OF THE CODE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, TODD TROSKEY, OUR, UH, INDIRECT DIRECTOR IS HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, OR TODD, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, TODD, ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF HOW FAR FROM A RESIDENCE THAT NEEDS TO BE PLACED? THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE.
BUT, BUT ANY PROPOSAL WOULD BE A REVISED SITE PLAN SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND ARE THERE, UM, REQUIREMENTS OR, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THEM LISTED HERE, BUT WHEN WE DID IT FOR THE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE DID ABOUT AUDIO AND VIS AUDIO.
BECAUSE THEY, THEY INVOKED THEIR HIGHER REGULATORY AUTHORITY.
SO ARE THEY VISUAL ONLY? NO AUDIO.
BRENTWOOD ACADEMIES AUDIO IS IN THE SPEED IN THE STANDS, RIGHT? NOT IN THE PROPOSED BOARD.
DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THERE? BECAUSE IF THEY UP THEIR GAME, LIKE THE COLLEGE BOARDS ARE, IT'S MUCH LOUDER THAN THE, THE SPEAKERS.
WELL, WE DO HAVE THE, THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
WE DO HAVE THE NOISE ORDINANCE THAT, THAT WE COULD USE TO, UH, REGULATE THAT.
I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF AN AMENDMENT WE WOULD INCORPORATE.
UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PROHIBITING AUDIO? RIGHT.
WORDS OR OTHER THAN THE ANNOUNCER? BECAUSE AT UM, COLLEGES, THEY USE 'EM TO PLAY MUSIC AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT JUST FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF MUSIC BETWEEN EACH PLAY OR, YOU KNOW, SWITCHING OFFENSE TO DEFENSE AND, AND HONESTLY, THEIR AUDIO SYSTEM BEING SEPARATE, THEY COULD BE DOING THAT NOW.
SO THERE'S REALLY, THEY ARE, THEY ARE
THEY'RE, BUT, BUT, BUT LET LET THE LIKE TO OBSERVES, THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS TO REGULATE THAT ALREADY AND THEN THAT, THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
HAVE WE HEARD ANY CONCERNS FROM ANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE AUDIO? FROM ANY OF THE SCHOOLS? NO.
THEY'RE JUST KIND OF USED TO IT.
THEY JUST KNOW FRIDAY LIGHTS, THEY LIGHTS.
IT'S PART OF BEING BY A, YOU WILL BE GETTING USED TO IT, I THINK.
SO WHEN DO WE MOVE? I MISSED IT.
I THINK YOU SAID WHEN THERE WAS A SUPPOSED TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, NOBODY EVEN CAME, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THEY WERE ALL, UH, CONTACTED INDIVIDUALLY TO NOTIFY 'EM OF IT.
YEAH, WE, WE WENT, WELL THE, THE SCHOOL VA WENT TO EACH ADJOINING RESIDENCE TO HAND DELIVER A LETTER INVITING THEM TO A MEETING THAT I ATTENDED TO, TO EXPLAIN THE PROPOSAL, AND NONE OF THE RESIDENTS SHOWED UP.
THE SECOND ITEM WE HAVE UNDER, UH, NEW BUSINESS IS, UH, THE ETHICS COMPLAINT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S CLUB, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, UH, ALLEGING, UH, PARTIC CERTAIN VIOLATIONS OF THE CODE AS IT RELATES TO, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER MAYOR, MARK GORMAN.
UM, THIS ONE, I, I WILL DEFER TO KRISTEN.
I THINK THERE IS NOW A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WHAT, WHAT STEPS WOULD BE NEEDED, UH, GIVEN A CHANGE IN THE ROLE.
AND, UH, PROBABLY THE FIRST QUESTION IS, DOES THE CODE STILL, DOES IT OBLIGATE THE COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD OR IS IT OPTIONAL? AND IF IT'S OPTIONAL, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO DO, UH, WHEN THE RESULT OF IT, YOU WOULD HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S NOT IN OFFICE ANY LONGER.
AND SO DO YOU WANT TO, AT THE TIME, THE DOLLARS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER APPROACH YOU MIGHT END UP TAKING, YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS, UH, WITH THESE.
ONE IS TO HAVE IT INVESTIGATED BY THE, UH, UH, CITY'S ATTORNEY.
UM, THE OTHER WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY TO, AGAIN, AS YOU KIND OF DISCUSSED BEFORE, HAVE A THIRD PARTY, UH, TO PROBABLY TYPICALLY A LEGAL FIRM THAT WE CON CONTRACT WITH, WITH YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THE QUESTION PROBABLY BECOMES, DO YOU HAVE TO NOW? AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO.
DO YOU WANT TO? AND WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW THAT BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE END OF IT, THERE'S SURELY NOTHING THERE THAT YOU COULD DO.
SO, KRISTEN, I'LL, I THINK YOU COVERED IT VERY WELL.
AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE, OUR CODE SECTION
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ABOUT THIS IS KIND OF PAINFULLY VAGUE.UM, AGAIN, YOUR OPTIONS, IT'S BEFORE YOU BECAUSE THE ALLEGED ACTIONS OR THE, WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION IS ALLEGING DID OCCUR WHEN MAYOR GORMAN WA WAS IN OFFICE.
AND IT STILL IS ON YOUR AGENDA.
SO IT'S BEFORE YOU ON MONDAY TO DISPOSE WITH AS YOU, AS YOU WISH, THE OPTIONS UNDER THE CODE ARE TO FIND THAT THERE WAS A VIOLATION, THAT THERE WAS NOT A VIOLATION, OR THAT IT NEEDS FURTHER INVESTIGATION.
AGAIN, AS JASON SAID, YOU COULD ALSO DETERMINE THAT IT'S A MOOT POINT AT THIS, UM, AT THIS INSTANCE BECAUSE, UM, AGAIN, THE CODE PROVIDES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING INTO A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND IF, UH, MAYOR GORMAN IS NO LONGER ON THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, WHAT'S THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME IF HE FINDS SOMETHING? SO, UM, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A NON DIRECTION AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE UNDER THE CODE.
SO THOSE ARE GONNA, AGAIN, I THINK JASON EXPLAINED THE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE EVENTUAL OUTCOME WOULD BE.
SO KRISTEN, I THINK THIS ONE TOO, UH, THERE'S THE POINTED A A FEW THINGS TAKE FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT TIME AND OR, AND OR PERHAPS COST AS WELL.
THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU, ONE WAY.
I'LL TELL YOU MY THOUGHTS ON THIS.
UM, AND I WANT BE VERY CAREFUL HOW I PHRASE EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY'S REPUTATION AND OUR DUTIES.
UM, THIS IS A VERY LENGTHY, LENGTHY COMPLAINT.
AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, OUR MINUTES AS THEY SHOULD BEING ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER SHOW MOTIONS AND OUR ACTIONS, OUR MINUTES DO NOT INCLUDE ALL DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE GONE ON EITHER AT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS OR CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS.
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW TAPES.
THIS ALSO WOULD REQUIRE THE REVIEW OF I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY EMAILS THAT MAYBE WENT BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN VARIOUS EMPLOYEES, EVEN CONVERSATIONS.
I FEEL LIKE GOVERNOR'S CLUB WILL PURSUE THIS ON THEIR OWN.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS, SINCE THE ONLY REPERCUSSION WE HAVE, EVEN IF WE FOUND C WOULD BE WE ENS YOU AND THERE ARE NO REPERCUSSIONS.
I WOULD NOT WANT TO PAY AN ATTORNEY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT WOULD TAKE TO DIG INTO THIS.
LET GOVERNOR'S CLUB PAY THEIR ATTORNEY TO UNRAVEL ALL OF THIS IS, AND I'M NOT DISMISSING THE SERIOUSNESS OF THEIR, THEIR CHARGES IN THEIR ATTEMPT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THEM.
BUT IN THE INTEREST OF MOVING FORWARD, I PERSONALLY WILL, AM WILLING TO SAY, LET LET THE GOVERNOR'S CLUB, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND WHATEVER OTHER LEGAL AUTHORITY MAY BE INVOLVED, PURSUE THIS AND LET'S PUT IT TO BED AS THE CITY.
WELL, I THINK IT WOULD COST US AN ARM AND A LEG.
IT WOULD COST A LOT OF MONEY JUST FOR THE SATISFACTION OF SAYING EITHER, YEAH, NO, WE FOUND NO PROBLEM.
OR YOU'RE CENSORED AND AND THERE'S NO REPERCUSSION OF ANY OF THOSE.
OTHER THOUGHTS? MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON IT.
SO KRISTEN, IN, IN THAT, IN THAT SITUATION THEN, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT FORMAL STEP TO I THINK AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE AGENDA, IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I DO THINK IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TO DISPOSE OF, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A MOTION TO DISPOSE OF IT WITH NO FINDING.
WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SAY WE'VE DISMISSED IT.
AGAIN, TO DISPOSE OF IT WITH, WITH NO FINDING'S VERY BEGINNING WORD.
AND, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY DISMISSED.
YOU CAN SAY DISPOSE OF WITH NO FINDING BASED ON IT BEING MOOT.
AND THEN YOU CAN GIVE YOUR SAME REASONS THAT YOU JUST GAVE ON THE RECORD OR WHOEVER WANTS TO DO THAT.
SO WOULD THAT WOULD REQUIRE A VOTE? YES.
AND THIS WILL BE MONDAY NIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
YOU WANNA GET THE CORRECT WORD FROM HER AND NO, I KNOW WHAT I'LL SAY.
SHE WAS JUST, NO, I'M FINE WITH PHRASING MY OWN MOTION.
SO THAT WOULD BE A MOTION, NOT JUST YES.
NO, I MEAN WE CAN MAKE THAT WITHOUT, BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY IT SAID YES NO AND INVESTIGATION.
BUT THAT IS AN OPTION AS A FIRST MOTION, CORRECT? YES.
NO NEEDS AN INVESTIGATION ONE.
AND AGAIN, THE CODE IS SILENT, BUT I THINK IT'S CLEAR WHAT THE COMMISSION, THE INTENT OR WHAT, WHAT YOU ALL SEEM TO WANT TO DO.
SO I I THAT'S YOUR WILL AT THAT POINT.
OBVIOUSLY ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE THE OTHER NEW BUSINESS.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER NEW
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BUSINESS, BUT THAT WILL BE, YOU MAY HAVE OTHER NEW BUSINESS BY, BY THEN.UM, OTHER ITEMS OF DISCUSSION, UM, DISCUSSION ON VOLUNTARY BOARD MEMBER APPOINTMENTS POLICY.
AND, UH, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT, UH, IT'S RELATED TO PRACTICE, I BELIEVE, UH, NOT POLICY.
UH, THE ENTIRE PRACTICE HISTORICALLY IS MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THAT A, A CITIZEN THAT WISHES TO, UH, BE APPOINTED TO A VOLUNTEER BOARD IS LIMITED TO ONE VOLUNTEER BOARD.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THERE WAS AN EXCEPTION, PERHAPS UNINTENTIONAL AT SOME POINT AND THAT NOT TWO DISTANT PAST.
AND THEN THE QUESTION CAME UP AGAIN MORE RECENTLY WITH AN APPOINTMENT.
AND I THINK IT WAS REALIZED THAT THAT WOULD BE A A A SECOND BOARD.
AND SO, UH, IT REALLY, YOU DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE OR FORMAL POLICY ON THAT.
AND SO THE, I GUESS THE, THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS INVOLVED HERE.
ONE IS, IS IF, UH, WOULD YOU STILL WISH TO LIMIT AN INDIVIDUAL TO ONE BOARD AS AS CONSISTENT WITH PAST PRACTICE? UH, OR DO YOU WANNA CHANGE THAT? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION REALLY IS, UH, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE AS A PRACTICE OR DO YOU WANT TO SOMEHOW FORMALIZE WHATEVER POSITION YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD CHOOSE FROM THAT? AND I JUST HAVE A, A QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONER DUNN, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE ON IT.
YOU KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T REALLY RUN INTO THIS PRACTICE THAT I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, ON THE COMMISSION.
I MEAN, I, I KNOW OR WHEN, WHEN IT CAME UP, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS IN PARTICULAR SOMEONE ON THE FEE BOARD WHO WANTED TO ALSO SERVE ON THE PARK BOARD AND NO OTHER, AND NOTHING NEFARIOUS.
IT WAS PERSON DIDN'T REALIZE THAT ASKED, WELL, IT NEVER CAME UP BECAUSE IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A POLICY.
IT'S JUST A-A-A-A-A BUSINESS PRACTICE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE COMMONLY HAVE BOARDS THAT HAVE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD VOLUNTEER ON THE OTHER BOARDS.
AND WE HAVE A A, A PARK BOARD REPRESENTATIVE ON THE TREE BOARD.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, WE, WE COMMONLY KIND OF COMMINGLE THEM.
BUT IS, WOULD I, WOULD I BE RIGHT IN THINKING THAT THE PRACTICE OF TRYING NOT TO HAVE PEOPLE INDEPENDENTLY APPLY TO SEPARATE BOARDS BE TO TRY TO WIDEN OUR VOLUNTEER POOL AND HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE INVOLVED? WELL, TRADITIONALLY THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE CERTAIN BOARDS THAT REQUIRE REPRESENTATIVE FROM ANOTHER BOARD.
SO THEY, 'CAUSE THEY WORK TOGETHER ON SIMILAR PROJECTS.
IT WAS ALWAYS FELT THERE WAS A BIG TALENT POOL IN BRENTWOOD MM-HMM
AND YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE ONE PERSON SERVING ON MULTIPLE BOARDS WHEN THERE'S ANOTHER PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT WANT TO SERVE ON A BOARD.
IN FACT, AT ONE POINT WE HAD A, A LONG TIME TREE BOARD MEMBER, AN ARBORIST, UM, STEP DOWN BECAUSE HIS WIFE WAS APPLYING FOR ANOTHER BOARD AND SHE SAID, HEY, IT'S MY TURN NOW TO DO SOMETHING
AND THEY HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS TRADITION.
BUT IT'S, IT SEEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES TRADITIONS NEED TO BE PUT INTO CODE FOR THEM TO BE HONORED.
AND ANOTHER ONE I WOULD LIKE ADDED TO THE CODE.
UH, IT WAS ALWAYS A TRADITION.
WELL, WE NEVER REALLY HAD THIS HAPPEN.
BUT ONCE BEFORE, AND THEN RECENTLY IF A BOARD MEMBER AND JANET LISTEN UP,
TYPICALLY THAT BOARD MEMBER WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO STEP ASIDE FROM THE BOARD AND MAKE ROOM FOR A VOLUNTEER CITIZEN.
TWICE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE HAD COMMISSIONERS ELECTED FROM VOLUNTEER BOARDS WHO DID NOT, WERE NOT WILLING TO STEP DOWN AND CREATE A SPACE UNTIL THEIR TERM WAS UP.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN THE CODE THAT IF YOU ARE A BOARD VOLUN, A VOLUNTEER BOARD MEMBER THAT WAS APPOINTED, AND YOU ARE ELECTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION, YOU WILL, YOU WILL VACATE YOUR VOLUNTEER SPOT AND MAKE ROOM FOR A, A VOLUNTEER CITIZEN.
AND I'D ASSUMED THAT'S WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
SO I I NO, YOU CAN BE GRACIOUS OR NOT.
UM, I DID BUT TO, TO, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA SET A POLICY, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT LIKE NELSON'S BRINGING UP, THERE ARE A LOT OF LITTLE SUBGROUP OR, OR SUB AREAS WE NEED TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE HISTORIC COMMISSION, THE, UH, TREE BOARD AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD.
AND FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS WE'VE HAD THE SAME PERSON ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD AND THE TREE BOARD BECAUSE SHE'S INTERESTED IN IT AND IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO STEP UP FOR THOSE TWO BOARDS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO CARVE OUT A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IF LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN APPOINTED MEMBER FROM CITY OR PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT THAT REQUIREMENT IS DIFFERENT THAN A VOLUNTEER BOARD MEMBER AND, AND SOMETHING AND, AND MY, MY GENERAL POSTURE TOWARDS REGULATION IS THAT LESS IS MORE.
AND WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, I, I WONDER IF, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD LISTS OF PROSPECTS.
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THIS PAST TIME AROUND ON, ON THE PARK BOARD, I THINK WE HAD A LONG LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WERE WILLING TO GET INVOLVED.I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THE CASE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A REGULATORY RESTRICTION JUST IN CASE WE EVER NEED AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE DO HAVE A SMALL POOL OR IF INSTEAD WHAT WE NEED IS, UH, A MORE DELIBERATE PRACTICE, RIGHT? WHERE WE ASK HOLLY OR WHOEVER'S VETTING THE APPLICANTS TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE COMMISSION WHILE WE'RE PICKING CANDIDATES.
LIKE, LIKE THIS PARTICULAR ONE BECAUSE IT, IT WASN'T REALLY ON ANYONE'S RADAR WHEN WE HAD A VOLUNTEER FROM ONE BOARD APPLY TO ANOTHER BOARD.
AND IT IS SOMEONE THAT WE KNOW AND LIKE, AND NO ONE RAISES A CONCERN.
BUT I MEAN, COULD A BETTER SOLUTION BE TO THE FIRST PART IN TERMS OF THE REGULATORY BOARDS TO SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT A NEW REGULATION IN PLACE, WE'RE JUST GONNA ASK FOR A TIGHTER PRACTICE.
SO LIKE WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE, I THINK THAT WORKS.
WE HAVE 30, 30 YEARS OF TRADITION THAT WENT RIGHT DOWN THE TRAIN.
BUT, BUT IF WE PUT A A, A PRACTICE INTO PLACE, WE JUST LIKE WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S AN INCUMBENT REAPPLYING FOR A BOARD, IT'S LISTED ON THEIR APPLICATION THAT COMES TO COMMISSIONERS.
IF WE ASK THAT IT IS DELINEATED ON THEIR APPLICATION THAT THAT APPLICANT IS ALREADY SERVING ON A DIFFERENT VOLUNTEER BOARD SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN THE COMMISSION MAKES A DECISION AND THE COMMISSION KEEPS THE PRACTICE, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS.
BUT WE DON'T COMPLETELY TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE AND, AND WELL SEE.
TO ME THAT ALLOWS TOO MUCH FAVORITISM BE INVOLVED.
I THINK IF IT'S WRITTEN IN THE RULES, RIGHT, IT'S CLEAR TO EVERYBODY.
SIMPLE CONCERNED, THERE'S NO WELL I LIKE HIM.
SO LET'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO QUESTION OF THAT HAPPENING.
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT JANET, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VERSUS WHAT IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETIMES WHEN SOMEBODY MAYBE IS ON THE TREE BOARD AND WE NEED A REPRESENTATIVE RIGHT.
ON PARK OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE THAT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TROUBLE GETTING THAT, THAT REPRESENTATION TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WHEN THEY COMMITTED TO THE BOARD, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS ONCE A MONTH MAYBE, AND THEN NOW IT SUDDENLY BECOMES THREE TIMES A MONTH OR, OR WHATEVER.
SO I, I THINK WE MAY NEED TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY MULTIPLE OF, OF ONE PERSON ALREADY ON A BOARD BEING ABLE TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE ON OTHERS.
WELL I SEE THAT AS, AS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT, RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THAT WE NEED TO KIND CARVE THAT OUT.
AND I THINK WE ALSO, THE BOARD IS FREE TO CHOOSE WHO BASE A POINT WHERE THE BOARD, THAT'S THE LIAISON ROLE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
EVERYONE SEEMS COMFORTABLE WITH LIAISON.
AND THEN THE SPOUSE IS A SPOUSE IS ANOTHER ONE.
UM, YOU KNOW HOW, BECAUSE IF UN THAT'S AN UNOFFICIAL TRADITION, IS IT NOT THAT IF, IF ONE SPOUSE IS ON A BOARD, ANOTHER ONE CAN'T APPLY.
YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO PEOPLE FROM THE SAME, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY STEPPED DOWN FROM A BOARD BECAUSE THEIR SPOUSE WANTED TO BE ON A DIFFERENT BOARD, AND I'D BE, LOOK AT OUR STATE ATTORNEY, THEY MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF HAIR, A LOT.
WE START TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT'S THE, THE SPOUSE, WHAT'S THE HOUSEHOLD, RIGHT? RIGHT.
WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
DO WE, DO WE STILL KEEP THAT, THAT OFFICIAL I COULD ASK ON OBLIGATION.
WELL, AND IT, YEAH, I THINK IT DOES TALK ABOUT WHAT UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A SPOUSE, WHAT THEIR CONNECTION, WHAT YOUR CONNECTION IS TO OTHER VOLUNTEER HISTORY WITHIN THE CITY.
SO THERE ARE QUESTIONS ON THE APPLICATION THAT COULD GIVE YOU MAYBE THE SAME INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
YEAH, YOU COULD, IF YOU, IF YOU DO LOOK TO LIMIT THAT OFFICIALLY, IT THEN RAISES THE QUESTION OF WHAT ABOUT A BROTHER OR SISTER? WHAT A CHILD.
HOW FAR DO YOU GO CHILD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO HOW CLOSE ARE THEY? ARE THEY CLOSE ENOUGH TO BEING CONCERN OR NOT? WELL, IF THEY'RE HOUSE SPOUSE IS WHAT THEY USED TO BE
ONE QUESTION TO CLARIFY THIS DOESN'T, IF WE DO CODIFY IT, IT WOULDN'T PRECLUDE SOMEONE FROM APPLYING TO BE ON ANOTHER BOARD.
THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO VACATE THE OTHER BOARD POSITION THAT THEY WERE CURRENTLY IN.
IF THEY SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON THE HISTORIC COMMUNITY SIDE, I'D LOVE TO SERVE ON THE PARK BOARD.
NOW THEY CAN APPLY FOR THE PARK BOARD.
THEN THEY VACATE THAT HISTORIC COMMISSION.
BUT THAT WAY IF THEY DON'T GET IT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE THE ONE BOARD APPLY FOR THE OTHER, THE THE OTHER THING TOO IS IF JUST A SUGGESTION, IF YOU DO CODIFY, IF YOU SAY ONE PERSON, ONE BOARD, UH, BUT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IN CASE YOU HAVE A BOARD THAT SIMPLY IS HAVING TROUBLE FINDING MEMBERS AND IT'S AFFECTING THE ABILITY OF THE BOARD TO, TO DO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.
WE COULD, WE COULD, I COULD WORK WITH KRISTEN.
I THINK SHE'S PROBABLY REALLY GOOD WITH LANGUAGE TO GIVE YOU AN EXCEPTION IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS THE SOLUTION IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH APPLICANTS.
AND IT AND YOU'D SAY, AND IT AFFECTS THE ABILITY OF THE BOARD TO OPERATE IN ESSENCE.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING THAT CAUSES YOUR BOARD NOT TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE, UH, PROPERLY.
PROBABLY WOULDN'T NEED THAT VERY OFTEN, BUT IT WOULD AT LEAST GIVE YOU THAT FLEXIBILITY THAT YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR.
I HOPE IT WOULD NEVER COME UP.
YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE BRINGS.
JUST WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER BOARDS, UM, I TALKED WITH JAY ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION WHEN SOMEONE IS ELECTED OR APPOINTED AND RIGHT NOW A LETTER GO A DOES A LETTER GO TO THEM FROM
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THE CITY, HOLLY CONTACTS THEM, A LETTER COMES FROM THE MAYOR.BUT THEN DO YOU INITIATE THAT? LIKE, OKAY, COULD YOU COPY THE C COMMISSIONERS? I I THINK IT'S GOOD.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO SEE JUST A LETTER COMING IN AND REINFORCE THEM THAT JOE JONES WAS APPOINTED OR MARY SMITH WAS APPOINTED.
I JUST THINK THAT WOULD ALSO SOLIDIFY, MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHO'S ON EACH BOARD.
IT JUST, AND AND BY LETTER DO YOU MEAN EMAIL? YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY I'D SEND IT REGULAR MAIL, SO, BUT I CAN SCAN THAT IN AND EMAIL IT TO YOU.
OH, SO YOU SEND IT TO THE, TO THEIR HOUSE.
YEAH, BUT SHE COULD SCAN IT AND EMAIL YOU SO YOU HAVE THAT.
I JUST THINK I WANT IT TO COME FROM THE MAYOR, SO I DON'T WANNA SEND IT DIRECTLY FROM MY EMAIL OR IT'S COMING FROM ME AND THE MAYOR.
I JUST THINK THAT MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, WE ARE ALL RIGHT ON THE SAME PAGE TOO.
SO WE'VE GOT AN ELECTRONIC NOTIFICATION.
YEAH, THAT THAT I DON'T NEED A PHYSICAL LETTER.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN.
SEE ENOUGH THAT THE FOLLOWING LETTER WAS SENT TOO.
I DON'T NEED TO SEE THREE COPIES OF THREE LETTERS.
WE KNEW WHAT WAS GETTING DONE, BUT WE JUST
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I CAN SUMMARIZE REAL QUICK WHAT I HAVE AND GO AHEAD.
WE'VE GOT THE, THE VOLUNTEER BOARDS, THEN WE'VE GOT THE COMMISSION THING.
YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF COMMISSIONERS WHEN THEY GET ELECTED.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE.
YOU TALKING ABOUT IF THEY'RE ON A BOARD OF STEPPING DOWN FROM THEIR BOARD OR, UH, VACATING THE SEAT IF THEY ELECTED TO THE COMMISSION.
YEAH, SO LET ME GO THROUGH, I'LL, UH, KINDA SHARE MY NOTES, SEE IF, IF, IF, IF I HAVE IT.
SO GO OR STAY WITH IN ESSENCE, UH, ONE PERSON, ONE BOARD PRACTICE, CODIFY IT, CREATE AN EXCEPTION IN THERE THAT IF, UH, THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF, UH, MEMBERS FOR A PARTICULAR BOARD THAT AFFECTS THE OPERATION OF THE BOARD, YOU COULD GRANT AN EXCEPTION FOR SEND TO BE ON MORE THAN ONE BOARD.
UM, AND UH, ALSO ADD IN THERE, UH, OR WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE THAT A BOARD MEMBER IS ELECTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO, THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS WE CAN DO THIS.
THEY WOULD NEED TO STEP DOWN, WHICH IS AN ACTION OF THEM IMMEDIATELY, PERHAPS AS OF THE SWEARING IN WHICH IS MAKES IT OFFICIAL AND OR AND THAT'S A QUESTION FOR CHRISTIAN, THE CO KRISTEN.
THE CODE COULD SAY THAT, UH, IT'S, IT JUST AUTOMATICALLY THEY'RE REMOVED FROM THE BOARD.
TAKE ON THE COMMISSION ROLE, WHICHEVER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.
I'M NOT GONNA GIVE YOU AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, I'M, I'M HONESTLY I'M THINKING IF WE DO THIS LIKE A ADOPT A POLICY BY RESOLUTION OR IF WE TRY TO CODIFY FOR EVERY SINGLE BOARD.
SO I WILL, UM, I'M THINKING THROUGH THAT.
YOU GOTTA THINK, THINK OF LOGISTICS.
LOGISTICALLY SPEAKING, HOW TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE COMMISSION, WOULD IT BE SOME DESIRE YOU COULD INSTEAD PUT IN THE BYLAWS FOR EACH BOARD? I THINK YOU WOULD WANNA FOLLOW UP IN THE BYLAWS, BUT I THINK, YEAH, I THINK IT SHOULD BE, IF IT, IF IT'S THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION TO BE A POLICY, I THINK WE NEED TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT A SEPARATE POLICY.
AND THEN ON THE LIAISONS, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS TO, TO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING WITH THE LIAISONS OR AT THIS POINT TO, UH, LIMIT SPOUSES OR ANY OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS THAT TO BE ON BOARD AS WELL.
ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT ON THE SAME BOARD, I PRESUME.
THIS IS, UH, IMPORTANT BUT NOT URGENT.
WE HAVE, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE, OOPS, MY BAD.
IT'S RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF ME.
UM, ARE THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AD HOC COMMITTEE GUIDELINES, UH, FOR THE MEMBERSHIP OF THAT, UH, WE SENT A COPY OUT OF THAT.
AND UH, ACTUALLY JAY, YOU DID THE WORK ON THIS IF YOU'D LIKE, I'LL HAVE YOU GO AHEAD AND SUMMARIZE.
UM, IF YOU HAD, UH, KIND OF GIVEN US SOME PARAMETERS OF HOW YOU THOUGHT THIS WOULD WORK, MUCH LIKE OUR PREVIOUS AD HOC COMMITTEES.
AND SO I DEVELOPED SOME GUIDELINES THAT ATTEMPTS TO, UM, UH, PUT, PUT TOGETHER AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WILL SERVE THE PURPOSE THAT YOU OUTLINED FOR US, UH, WITH SEVEN MEMBERS IN A SELECTION PROCESS SIMILAR TO THE WAY WE DO WITH ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEER BOARDS.
SO IT WOULD BE ADVERTISED AND YOU WOULD GET THOSE APPLICANTS AND MAKE THE APPOINTMENTS YOURSELVES AS YOU NORMALLY WOULD.
UM, WE DID SPECIFY 18 MONTHS AS WE HAD DISCUSSED WHEN WE WERE TOGETHER THAT, UH, THAT WOULD BE HOPEFULLY THE CONCLUSION OF ALL OF THEIR WORK.
THEY CERTAINLY COULD CONCLUDE EARLIER IF THEY HAPPENED TO BE VERY EFFICIENT AND GET THIS DONE BUILT.
UM, BUT KIND OF GIVES THEM, UM, A MILESTONE TO GO FOR.
UM, THE FUNDRAISING COMPONENT IS INCLUDED IN HERE.
IT'S NOT A HARD AND FAST EXPECTATION, BUT I THINK WRITTEN GENTLY ENOUGH TO SAY THAT PROBABLY IS PART OF SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL DO.
MOST OF THESE TYPES OF MONUMENTS ARE BUILT WITH SOME SORT OF, UM, FUNDRAISING EFFORT.
AND SO, UH, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE.
AND SO THE CONCLUSION OF THEIR WORK, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD BE UPON THE CONCLUSION OF THEIR FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN OR THE SUBMISSION OF THE REPORT TO THE CITY
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COMMISSION.UM, OF COURSE THE OPERATION OF THE BOARD IS LIKE EVERY OTHER BOARD SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOVERNMENT AND THE SUNSHINE AND THEN THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WERE GENERALLY TO, UH, GATHER AND ANALYZE ALL THE INFORMATION THEY CAN ABOUT MONUMENTS THAT ARE MAYBE OF SIMILAR SIZE, SCALE, SCOPE AS WE'RE KIND OF, UH, PROVIDING.
AND THEN TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO HAVE THAT BUILT.
OF COURSE THE CITY COMMISSION WILL BE CHOOSING ONE LOCATION, SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT AS A DISCUSSION ITEM BACK TO YOU TO FURTHER DEFINE, YOU KNOW, THE PROS AND CONS OF THE THREE LOCATIONS WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
OR IF ANYONE HAS AN IDEA FOR ANOTHER LOCATION, THEN WE COULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.
BUT THEY WOULD KNOW THE SITE THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING WITH.
UM, THEY WOULD BE REPORTING BACK TO YOU, UH, REGULARLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU NEED A REPORT THAT SAYS, WELL, THERE'S NOTHING NEW TO REPORT AT THIS MOMENT.
BUT CERTAINLY IF THERE'S ANYTHING DEFINITIVE THEN YOU KNOW, THE LIAISON FROM STAFF WHO'D BE WORKING WITH THEM WOULD MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THEY COME AND REPORT BACK TO YOU.
AND OF COURSE IT CULMINATES IN A FINAL REPORT AND PROPOSAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
WHO IS STAFF LIAISON ON THIS? DO WE KNOW YET? UH, WE, WE, WE DON'T KNOW YET.
UM, WE CAN, CAN DETERMINE THAT, BUT OKAY, SO THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY MANAGER, IS THAT CORRECT? TYPICALLY? YES.
AND, AND IT MAY UPON THE SITE THAT'S SELECTED, YOU KNOW, DAVE MAY BE THE LOGICAL LIAISON IF IT'S GONNA BE IN THE CITY PARK, RIGHT.
IT'S OVER BY PDHQ, THEN PERHAPS IT'S MY, MYSELF OR THE POLICE CHIEF.
WELL, AND AND AND TO THAT END, I MEAN IF THEY HAD HIGH COMMITTEE FOR WHATEVER REASON, SWITCHES LOCATIONS, WE COULD PROBABLY SWITCH STAFF SOLICIT.
SO, WELL THEY WOULDN'T SWITCH THE LOCATION IF THE CITY COMMISSION IS IN CHARGE OF PICKING THE LOCATION.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD.
THERE IS ONE PART THAT BASED ON SOME EXPERIENCE THE PAST MEMORIALS LIKE THIS, THE PART ABOUT ADDING NAMES, A COUPLE OF THINGS IN ON THE HISTORIC BOARD, CHARLES CAN TESTIFY.
THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT GOES INTO FINDING OUT PEOPLE'S NAMES AND THEIR HISTORY AND OFTEN WE FIND THAT'S NOT CORRECT, WE HAVE TO DO MORE.
SO THAT'S REALLY LABOR INTENSIVE AND YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY THAT REALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SECONDLY, DOWNSTAIRS WE HAVE THAT MEMORIAL FLAG THING ON THE WALL.
THEY GOT BROUGHT TRACTOR SUPPLY IN TO HELP FUND IT.
IT WAS DURING A TIME WHEN WE WERE STILL INVOLVED IN THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN AND THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE THE NAMES OF ALL BRENTWOOD OR WILLIAMSON COUNTY, UH, SOLDIERS WHO WERE SERVING OR HAD SERVED.
AND THE IDEA WAS THAT IT WOULD CONTINUE.
WELL, AFTER THAT COMMITTEE DISBANDED, NOBODY STAYED ON TOP OF THAT.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT.
WELL, I KNOW, BUT I'M, MY POINT IS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY IF YOU WANT, IF IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE NAMES ENGRAVED ON IT OR PLAQUES OR WHATEVER THEY DETERMINE WOULD, WOULD LOOK NICE.
YOU, YOU CAN'T JUST LET IT GO 10 YEARS OR 20 YEARS.
YOU KNOW, EITHER WE'RE GONNA DO IT OR YOU DO DO IT RIGHT.
MY THINKING WOULD BE THAT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS SEEM TO FALL BY THE WAYSIDE.
'CAUSE WHO'S GONNA BE THE ONE PERSON THAT EVERY YEAR IS GONNA CHECK TO SEE IF SOME WILLIAMSON COUNTY VETERAN HAPPENED TO DIE DURING THE YEAR THAT SERVED IN THE WAR.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
AND KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER OF DAR OR CAR, IT'S UPON THE PERSON AND MAYBE A FAMILY MEMBER TO REACH OUT AND TRY AND BE INCLUDED IN THAT ORGANIZATION.
SO MAYBE IT'S A MATTER OF THE FAMILY NEEDS TO KIND OF REQUEST AND PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION SO THAT IT'S NOT STAFF HAVING TO DO ALL THE RESEARCH.
WE STILL GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S IN CHARGE.
BUT I MEAN, I JUST THINK YOU'RE OPENING A WHOLE CAN OF WORMS THAT THE THING IS GONNA BE KIND OF SPOTTY AND IT'S NOT KEPT UPRIGHT.
I MEAN THIS WILL GO LONG PAST US.
WE'RE TALKING A MEMORIAL THAT'S GONNA BE THERE 30, 40, 50 YEARS HOPEFULLY.
AND I'D RATHER IT JUST LOOK RIGHT COMMISSIONER INSTEAD OF GETTING INTO NAMES.
SO WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS, DOES DESIGN DECISIONS HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND WE JUST REALLY NEED TO THINK THROUGH THE CONSEQUENCE OF DESIGN DECISIONS.
I ABSOLUTELY RECOGNIZE EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING AND THAT CAN BE DIFFICULT MAKING SURE THAT YOU'VE PROPERLY VETTED THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
UH, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO LET THE, LET THE COMMITTEE COME TOGETHER AND PREPARE WHAT THEY, THEY MAY COME TOGETHER AND SAY, WE DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE INDIVIDUAL NAMES RECOGNIZED.
WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO A LOT OF WORK TO GET THE FIRST ONE.
BUT SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL PROPOSE THAT
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COMPONENT TO THE COMMISSION AND YOU CAN SAY YES OR NO, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT THAT.AND THEN THEY'VE GOT TO PROVIDE THE MECHANISM FOR HOW WOULD IT BE MAINTAINED OVER TIME AND WHAT WOULD BE THE LONG TERM VETTING PROCESS BECAUSE YES, WE'LL HAVE A CORE GROUP OF PEOPLE VERY ENERGIZED JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE FLAG DOWNSTAIRS IN THE BEGINNING.
AND THEN THAT MAY WANE OVER TIME.
SO THEY'LL NEED TO PROPOSE THAT TO YOU AND HAVE YOU AUTHORIZE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT THAT DONE.
WELL, IF WE MAKE SURE TO CAREFULLY PICK A STAFF LIAISON THAT UNDERSTANDS THE CONSEQUENCES OF DESIGN DECISIONS SO THEY CAN HELP, UH, THEY CAN HELP WITH THAT THOUGHT PROCESS.
'CAUSE IN LIKE THE DISCUSSION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE, THE CITY IDENTIFICATION ELEMENTS, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT THE COMMISSION'S REALLY INTERESTED IN DESIGNING THINGS FOR THE LONG TERM AND MAKING SURE WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING THEM TO BE MAINTAINED.
WE CAN MAKE SURE THIS POINT IS COMMUNICATED TO THE COMMITTEE ON THE FRONT END SO THEY'RE YEAH.
AND RATHER THAN WAIT FOR THEM TO EXPLORE AND FIGURE IT OUT.
AND IF I MAY JUST ON THE FLAG DOWNSTAIRS YES, PLEASE.
IT, IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T FALL BY THE WAYSIDE.
WE ACTUALLY TOOK THE NAMES OFF THE FEW THAT WERE ON THERE BECAUSE THERE BECAME A CONCERN ABOUT TERRORIST THREATS AND A DOMESTIC, UH, CONCERN FOR THE SAFETY OF THE FAMILIES AND THE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE NAMES WERE UP THERE.
THEY, THEY ACTUALLY CAME TO US AND SAID WE'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO HAVE THEM COME DOWN.
I WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO BEEN TOLD THAT.
SORRY, JANE, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
CAN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE SEVEN MEMBER COMMITTEE HAVE ONE PERSON SPECIFICALLY FROM THE HISTORIC BOARD THAT'S SUBJECT TO THE, I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF MONUMENT UPKEEP WITH THE WORK THEY DO IN THE CEMETERIES WITH HISTORIC RESEARCH? THEY DO.
UM, THEY, I I WOULD ASSUME HAVE VISITED MORE OR BEEN MORE INVOLVED IN OTHER MEMORIALS SO THAT THEY WOULD BRING LIKE AN INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE TO THAT SO THAT WE DON'T GET THINGS BACK FROM THE COMMITTEE AND SAY, OH, BUT YOU OVERLOOKED THIS POINT.
I MEAN, I THINK ANN HAS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE AND I THINK THAT YOU BRING UP A POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY START BRINGING IT DOWN THIS TRACK, UH, AND WANNA PUT ALL THESE NAMES AND IT COMES TO US AND WE SAY, OH, THAT'S GONNA BE TOO HARD TO KEEP UP OR WHATEVER.
SO IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ALREADY ON THE BOARD, THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION OR ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION FROM THE BEGINNING.
WOULD THAT BE OUTSIDE OF THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YOU? YOU COULD SAY THERE ARE SIX APPOINTED AND A SEVENTH IS A LIAISON FROM THE HISTORIC COMMISSION AND HISTORIC COMMISSION.
I MEAN, I DON'T IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR CHAIRMAN WAS ASHLEY MACAL WHO WAS GUNG HO AND HE THOUGHT HE COULD HELP RAISE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS GONNA BE A HISTORIC PROJECT.
BUT I THINK HE MIGHT STILL BE VERY INTERESTED, BUT I'LL ASK, I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT.
BUT I MEAN, OR YOU COULD, I GUESS MAYBE TO JUST REWORD THAT AND SAY INVITE A MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC, WE HAVE PERMISS TO BE AR MEMBERS IN THERE ARE GOOD AT RESEARCH, BUT, UH, I I'LL ASK.
SO YOU HAVE EVEN NUMBER IF YOU BRING, IF YOU ADD A PERSON, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN EVEN NUMBER.
WELL MAYBE THEY'RE NOT A VOTING MEMBER, THEY'RE JUST AN ADVISORY FOR NON-VOTING EX OFFICIO.
WILL THEY, WILL THEY FEEL THE SAME DESIRE TO PARTICIPATE IF THEY'RE NOT A VOTING MEMBER? I MEAN, IF IT'S SOMEBODY PASSIONATE ABOUT HISTORY, I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD BE ANYWAY.
SHOULD WE HAVE A BETTER ON IT? SHOULD A PARK BOARD MEMBER BE INVOLVED? WELL, YOU MAY NOT BE IN A PARK.
I KNOW IF THE PARK, IF IF THE LOCATION IS A PARK SHOULD A PARK BOARD.
BUT I THINK IF IT'S YOU ANYWAY, THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE, IF IT IS IN THE PARK AND YOU BECOME THE STAFF LIAISON.
YEAH, REPRESEN SAID I'LL BE THE STAFF LIAISON.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT A PARK BOARD MEMBER.
I DON'T BEING, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK AT THAT POINT I'M JUST ASKING.
I I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY AT THAT POINT.
SHOULD WE REQUIRE A VETERAN IF WE CAN.
I MEAN THERE ARE A LOT OF VETERANS IN THE COMMUNITY.
WOULD IT BE
DO WE NEED TO SAY THAT LIKE WITH THE, WHAT'S THE BOARD OF CONSTRUCTION APPEALS WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIKE AN ARCHITECT AND AN ENGINEER AND THEN OPEN PEOPLE.
CAN WE REQUIRE CERTAIN PEOPLE BE OF, YOU KNOW, VETERAN? WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE VETERAN? WELL, I, I, I WOULDN'T LIMIT YOURSELF IN ANY CAPACITY.
I THINK YOU CAN SIMPLY CHOOSE VETERANS.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA RING FORWARD.
I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD INCLUDE THAT ON THEIR APPLICATION, SO MM-HMM
YEAH, YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF DISCRETION.
SO IN TERMS OF A HISTORIC THOUGH, OR, OR, SO I, I AGREE WITH WHAT I THINK SUZANNE SAID ABOUT THEY MIGHT NOT BE AS INVOLVED IF THEY DON'T THINK THEY'VE GOT A, A VOTE IN IT.
BUT, UM, IS IT, IS IT BAD TO HAVE AN EVEN NUMBER? I MEAN, WE HAVE AN EVEN NUMBER ON PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE USUALLY DO PRETTY WELL MOST OF THE TIME, BUT, UH, BE YOUR CHOICE.
UH, YOU COULD EITHER HAVE THE SAME NUMBER, JUST DESIGNATE ONE OR THE OTHER, UM, APPOINTMENTS AS, AS COMING FROM THAT BOARD.
OR YOU COULD ADD AND HAVE AN EVEN NUMBER.
I, I THINK, I MEAN IF, I THINK IF WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CITIZEN INTEREST THAT, THAT WE, WE DON'T TAKE A SEAT FROM THE VOLUNTEER POOL WITH HISTORIC MEMBER, BUT I REALLY THINK WE NEED A, A VOTING HISTORIC BOARD
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MEMBER ON THERE IF THEY'RE WILLING.I'M WONDERING, DO YOU THINK WE COULD HAVE THIS ERECTED BY THE END OF 2026 SO IT CAN CONSI COINCIDE WITH THE MERRICK'S 250TH? UM, THAT, THAT FITS WITH THE TIME SCHEDULE? WELL MAYBE WE NEED TO ADJUST THE TIME SCHEDULE.
WELL, I'M SAYING DOES IT DOES 18 MONTHS, WE SAID 18 MONTHS FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THEIR WORK THAT YOU DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT BEING CONSTRUCTED DURING THAT 18 MONTHS.
YOU'VE GIVEN 'EM 18 MONTHS TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN AND RAISE MONEY AND THEN WHAT? SO NOT NO.
WELL, AND MAYBE A TALL ORDER DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THEIR FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN NEEDS TO, TO TAKE PLACE.
HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TRYING TO RAISE? WE DON'T KNOW.
AND, AND, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HOW WE WRITE THIS MAKES IT GO FASTER OR SLOWER.
YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THE MARKET WILL TELL US WHO GOES FASTER, SLOW AND, AND I THINK WE KIND OF HAVE A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES LIKE THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY FOR BRENTWOOD, WE HAD KIND OF A WHOLE YEAR OF STUFF WITH THE TWO 50 WE CAN HAVE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING THOUGH.
THE END OF 26 IS 18 MONTHS FROM NOW IF THEY GET, YOU KNOW, JUST ABOUT 18 MONTHS.
SO IF WE WAIT TO THE VERY END OF 18 MONTHS TO TAKE A REPORT AND THEN MOVE AT, AT LEAST HAVE A GROUNDBREAKING YEAH.
YOU, I WOULD THINK THAT THE, THAT THAT TARGET, THAT TIMELINE TARGET YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN FRONT OF THEM THE WHOLE TIME REGARDLESS OF THE 18 MONTHS.
AND WOULD, WOULD, UH, ENCOURAGE THEM TO MOVE ALONG ANYWAY? WELL, I THINK BECAUSE I THINK THEY AGREE, I THINK TO INCLUDE THAT IN THERE SOMEWHERE, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT DIRECT BY THE END OF APRIL FOR A GOAL.
AND WE'RE NOT BUILDING THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT HERE.
SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO RAISE? I IT'S MONEY.
SO THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A GROUNDBREAKING BY THE END OF GROUNDBREAKING BY THE END OF 2026.
THIS IS NOT, I MEAN I'M TRYING TO PICTURE WHAT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE, WHICH IS SOMETHING DEFINITIVE, MORE COMPLICATED SOUNDING THAN I THINK IT'S GONNA BE.
I WOULD, I MEAN, CHRIS YOU SAID GOAL, A GOAL OF, BUT NOT A DEFINED 'CAUSE THINGS COME UP.
QUITE HONESTLY TO SPEAK CANDIDLY, IF THE CITY FULLY FUNDED THIS, WE'LL HAVE IT BUILT WITHIN A YEAR.
BUT IT'S THE FUNDRAISING EFFORT THAT'S THE OPEN-ENDED PART THAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
UH, SO, UH, GOAL IS TO HAVE THE MONUMENT, UH, GROUNDBREAKING, UH, PRIOR TO THE END OF 2026.
COMMA, IF NOT A, IF NOT TOTAL COMPLETE SENTENCE, COMMA BY THE END OF 26.
I MEAN SERIOUSLY IF YOU GIVE 'EM THAT FAR OF A GOAL, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE ENCOURAGE THE MAXIMUM BUT GIVE THEM A MINIMUM.
'CAUSE I MEAN I'M SURE THINGS WILL COME TO US THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE, RIGHT.
DO SOME KIND OF FINAL APPROVAL.
IT'S GOTTA GET ON THE AGENDA AND YOU KNOW, SO, AND IT HAS TO BE DESIGNED FULLY UHHUH AND THEN THE UH, THE CONTRACT FOR IT AND THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.
AND IT MAY DEPEND ON THE
SO THERE ARE A FEW FACTORS, BUT PUT IT OUT AS A GOAL, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT WE HAVE ENGINEERING INVOLVED WITH THE DESIGN.
WE HAVE TO HAVE PLANNING INVOLVED WITH WHERE IT'S GONNA BE.
THIS IS GONNA GET REAL COMPLICATED.
WE CAN SEE WHATEVER'S UNDER THE GROUND WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT IT IS GONNA GIVE US A FIT.
'CAUSE IT SO IS THERE, IS THERE, IS THERE GENERAL CONSENSUS AT LEAST TO EMPHASIZE WITHIN HERE OF UH, UH, REALLY TO HAVE IT COM THE PROJECT COMPLETED BY THE END OF 2026, BUT AT LEAST TO HAVE THE GROUNDBREAKING YES.
AND THEN I WANNA COME BACK TO THE HISTORIC BOARD MEMBER QUESTION.
IS THERE CONSENSUS TO, UH, EITHER I'LL GIVE YOU THE CHOICE, EITHER UTILIZE ONE OF THE, THE, UH, SIX, UH, MEMBERS SELECTED, UH, AND ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE TO BE HISTORIC BOARD MEMBER OR TO ADD AND TAKE IT FROM TOTAL OF SEVEN TO EIGHT AND ADD THE HISTORIC BOARD MEMBER OR NOT TO ADD THE HISTORIC BOARD MEMBER.
I'D RATHER ADD, I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY FROM A YEAH.
SO EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT AREA? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, WE MEET THIS AFTERNOON OUT AT RAVENSWOOD.
UH, YOU WANT ME TO BRING THIS UP AND ASK THEM TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHO MIGHT LIKE TO DO THAT? I THINK THAT AND THEY'D SUBMIT AN APPLICATION LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE OR HOW WOULD THAT PROBABLY VOLUNTEER? THINK YOUR BOARD APPOINTS IT.
SO THE HISTORIC BOARD MEMBER WOULD BE A FULL VOTING MEMBER JUST FOR I WOULD THINK SO, YES.
I ASSUME THAT CASE I'M DIFFERENT ON THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, THOUGHTS? OKAY.
WELL WE'VE COME TO THE END OF OUR MEETING AND I DIDN'T RUN YOU LATE.
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I HAVE A QUESTION.OUR, UM, MEMORIAL OF DAY PROGRAM.
MONDAY NIGHT STARTS AT FIVE 30.
HOW LONG IS THAT GONNA BE, YOU THINK? ONE HOUR.
BECAUSE I WAS JUST THINKING OF THE PARKING MIGHT BE REALLY KIND OF HARD THAT NIGHT.
UH, THE RECEPTION IS IN THIS ROOM, RIGHT? MM-HMM
NOW ARE WE SITTING UP AT OUR DESK? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK OR OUT FRONT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY HAVING A MEETING.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I THINK WE COULD SIT IN THE AUDIENCE.
I THINK THAT I'D RATHER SIT IN THE AUDIENCE.
THEN THAT GIVES THE CHOIR MORE ROOM BECAUSE OUT TOO, THE LAST TIME WE HAD IT AT OUR MEETING, BUT IT'S NOT AT OUR MEETING.
I'D RATHER SIT IN THE AUDIENCE.
IT WAS WEIRD BEING FACING THE BACK OF A SPEAKER'S HEAD AND STUFF.
YEAH, MAN, THAT'S PRETTY SOFTBALL.