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[ Call to Order Roll Call Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag]
EVENING.I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BRENTWOOD MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION, MONDAY, MAY 5TH, 2025.
TONIGHT, COMMISSIONER STADNIK, BAIN, AND TRAVIS ARE NOT HERE.
OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT AS, UH, LET'S ALL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE LED BY COMMISSIONER CHURCH.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION AND UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[1. April 7, 2025]
TO READ THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 7TH MEETING? YES.WE HAVE MOTION TO ACCEPT FROM COMMISSIONER KAPLAN.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS, OTHER CHANGES? ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 7TH, 2025.
THE MINUTES ARE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED.
ABSTENTION FROM COMMISSIONER CHURCH.
[ Consent Agenda]
CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT HAD EIGHT ITEMS ON IT.UM, I'D LIKE YOU ALL TO NOTICE THAT ITEM NUMBER EIGHT HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE REGULAR AGENDA AND WILL BECOME REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IF THERE IS AN ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
ANYBODY ON THE CITY STAFF, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE OR ON THE COMMISSION.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
AND THOSE ITEMS ARE ALL VOTED ON AS ONE UNIT.
FIRST ITEM IS BPC 2 5 0 1 DASH ZERO FOUR A REVISED FINAL PLAT FOR THE MALLORY PARK SUBDIVISION.
PHASE TWO LOT 2 0 3 15 69, MALLORY LANE ZONING, C3 SR.
ITEM NUMBER TWO BPC 25 0 4 DASH 0 0 3.
A LIMITED DURATION EVENT, A FOOD TRUCK RALLY AT BRENT FEST IN CROCKETT PARK.
SI THREE, ITEM NUMBER THREE BPC 25 0 4 DASH 0 0 4.
ANOTHER LIMITED DURATION EVENT WITH A FOOD TRUCK.
RALLY THE RED, WHITE, AND BOOM.
SI THREE, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, BPC 25 0 4 DASH 0 0 5.
A MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION BUILDING ELEVATIONS IN MARYLAND FARMS. SECTION 40 LOT 48 53.
ONE MARYLAND WAY ZONING, C ONE ITEM NUMBER FIVE BPC 25 0 4 DASH ZERO SIX A LIMITED DURATION EVENT, THE PARADE OF HOMES IN THE ROSEBROOK SUBDIVISION.
SECTION THREE, ITEM NUMBER SIX BPC 25 0 4 DASH ZERO EIGHT A FINAL PLAT FOR THE RESERVE AT RAINTREE FOREST SUBDIVISION, SECTION SEVEN AND EIGHT ZONING, OSRD, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN BPC 25 0 4 DASH ZERO.
AND ALSO IN THE ROSE BOOK SUBDIVISION 98.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PIPPEN.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KAPLAN.
THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED.
IF YOU'RE JUST HERE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, IT'S OKAY IF YOU LEAVE, WE WON'T FEEL SAD OR DESERTED.
[8. BPC2504-013 Minor Site Plan Alteration - Maryland Farms, Section 4, Lot 9, 111 Westwood Place, Zoning C-1 - Applicant: Centric Architecture, 1206 Buchanan Street, Nashville, TN 37208 ]
OKAY.MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.
THE FIRST ITEM IS NOW BPC 25 0 4 DASH THREE.
A MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION IN MARYLAND FARMS SECTION FOUR LOT 9 1 1 1 WESTWOOD PLACE ZONING C ONE.
UM, SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, UH, CENTRIC ARCHITECTURE REQUEST APPROVAL OF A MINOR SITE WORK REVISIONS AT THE BUILDING ENTRANCE TO INCLUDE NEW ENTRY CANOPY AND A PAVER COURTYARD.
THE EXTERIOR FACADE OF THE BUILDING ENTRANCE WILL ALSO BE PAINTED BLACK.
UM, NO BUILDING SIGNAGE IS BEING PROPOSED.
SO IT'S AN EXISTING RED BRICK BUILDING AND THE ENTRANCE IS PROPOSED TO BE PAINTED BLACK.
UM, WE HAVE ONE CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
UH, A NEW PUBLIC FIRE METER AND PRIVATE FIRE LINE WITH DOUBLE CHECK VALVE DEVICE WILL BE INSTALLED TO SERVE THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING
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APPROVAL OF THIS WORK AND ASSOCIATED FEES WILL BE COVERED UNDER A SEPARATE PERMIT.WE HAVE 10 STANDARD REQUIREMENTS AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY? NOT YET.
I I, WITH THE CHANGES IN ALL THE NU NUMBER OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOW COMING TO US THAT WANT TO HAVE THE BUILDINGS REPAINTED TO DIFFERENT COLORS OR WHATEVER, IT'S, WHAT'S IT GONNA TAKE FOR THE CITY TO COME UP WITH A STANDARD THAT WE CAN LIVE WITH FOREVER? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY WANNA PAINT IT BLACK.
ANOTHER ONE WANTS TO PAINT IT WHITE.
AT SOME POINT IN TIME, SOMEONE'S GONNA WANNA PAINT IT PINK.
SO CAN WE ESTABLISH A STANDARD AND WHAT'S IT GONNA TAKE FOR THE CITY TO DO THAT? RIGHT.
WELL, I I DON'T THINK THEY'D PAINT IT PINK BECAUSE YOU, I KNOW THAT'D STILL HAVE TO APPROVE.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW THE CODE SAYS THAT, UH, WITHIN THIS ZONING DISTRICT AND ALL OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS EXCEPT C FOUR, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE ABILITY OR THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE MATERIAL AND THE COLOR.
SO THERE'S NO, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THIS BOARD.
UM, IN ORDER FOR CHANGES TO BE MADE, THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO DIRECT STAFF TO, TO DO SOME INVESTIGATION AND COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THEM FOR APPROVAL.
SO THAT HAS TO COME FROM THE COMMISSION? YES.
IT WOULD BE A CITY COMMISSION ACTION.
AND SO WOULD THOSE BE, UM, AMENDMENTS TO THE, TO THE CODE OR REGULATIONS OR AMENDMENTS TO THE CT C TWO ZONING OR WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? YEAH.
IT, IT WOULD UM, MORE THAN LIKELY BE A TEXT, A AMEN.
AMENDMENT TO THE C ONE AND C TWO STANDARDS OF THE CODE.
IS IT OKAY FOR US TO MAKE THE PROPOSAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO LOOK AT IT, BUT IF IT HAS TO COME FROM THE CITY COMMISSION, IS IT, IS IT THE RIGHT FORMAT FOR US TO MAKE A PROPOSAL TO THE CITY, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO, TO INVESTIGATE THIS? I MEAN, I MEAN WE COULD BRING IT UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION AT THEIR BRIEFING AT ONE OF THE BRIEFINGS.
WE COULD, WE COULD LET THE CITY COMMISSION KNOW THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS, HAS INTEREST IN, IN ESTABLISHING SOME DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS BESIDES C FOUR.
WE'RE STAFF IS HAPPY TO, TO BRING THAT UP AT A INFORMATIONAL MEETING.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS.
UM, IS EVERYONE IN FAVOR OF STAFF APPROACHING THE CITY COMMISSION? YES.
OKAY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT? UM, IF YOU'D JUST LIKE TO COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, UH, AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF THE THERE ARE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD OR, UH, COME HE TRIED TO THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.
I SAID I ALWAYS NEED HIM, SO COME ON UP.
SO I'M TONY HARRIS AND, UH, TOM CORCORAN.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TWO OF THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING, SO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING A LOOK AT IT.
WE'RE JUST WANTING TO, UH, RENEW IT.
THE BUILDING ITSELF HAS BEEN GREAT.
IT'S TO THE TEST OF TIME, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE ENTRANCE, UM, MORE APPEALING JUST WHERE YOU'RE DRAWN TO IT AND TRY TO BRING SOME NEW TENANTS IN 'CAUSE UH, OKAY.
WE'RE EMPTY BUILDING AND READY, READY TO OCCUPY, SO.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER, PPE? I'VE GOT ONE WHERE THE NEW BLACK PAINT IS PROPOSED.
DOES, DOES THAT JUT OUT? IT'S HARD TO TELL IF IT'S DIMENSIONAL AT THIS POINT.
SO IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY RECESSED IN, BUT THAT'S THE FOCUS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IS WE'RE TRYING TO DRAW THE FOCUS TO THAT, UM, TO THAT PLACE.
IT'S HARD TO SEE THE TREES COMING IN THE WAY THERE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST ADDING TO THIS, THIS AREA HERE, BLACK, SO THAT WAY WHEN YOU PULL UP, THAT'S THE FOCUS.
SO WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE TO SEE THE FRONT DOOR EASIER SO THAT THAT'S THE SAME.
THERE WILL, THERE WILL BE A CANOPY THAT IS COMING OUT THAT CURRENTLY IS OKAY.
THERE'S A CANOPY THAT'LL GO ACROSS HERE.
AND SO IT'S REALLY JUST THE ACCESS TO, UM, TO DRAW YOU TO THE FRONT DOOR.
SO THAT'S THE, IT'S A BIG RED BUILDING OTHERWISE.
SO THIS, WE KNOW
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE? WILL THAT, WILL THAT WEST PARK EXCHANGE BE ON THE CANOPY? IT WILL NOT, IT WILL NOT ON THE BUILDING.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO GIVE UP TO SIGNAGE FOR THAT, SO.
COMMISSIONER KAPLAN, COMMISSIONER UCCI, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
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OKAY, THANK YOU.OKAY, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT BPC 25 0 4 DASH ZERO THREE? THE MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT.
SECOND MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PIPPEN.
A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CROWLEY.
UH, DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER TUCCI, ARE WE GONNA GO AHEAD AND ASK THE COMMISSION TO GO AHEAD? IS THAT GONNA BE A PROPOSAL FROM US THAT WE WANT THE COMMISSION? I THINK WE HAVE, IT STARTS WITH AN INFORMAL REQUEST REQUEST.
WE DIDN'T NEED TO ACTUALLY HAVE A POLL.
WE ALL KIND OF GAVE JAY THE THUMBS OUT AND THEY'RE GOOD.
SO THEY'RE GONNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT? YES, YES.
DO YOU WANT TO JUST MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT WHY, WHAT YOUR MAIN CONCERN IS? WELL, YOU TAKE A LOOK AND YOU DRIVE AROUND THE CITY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE GOT COMPANIES WANTING TO GO AHEAD AND MODIFY THEIR BUILDINGS AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A STANDARD OF WHAT'S GONNA BE ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT'S NOT GONNA BE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE CITY.
'CAUSE TOMORROW MAY BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COLOR FROM ANOTHER HOME, ANOTHER BUILDER THAT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A STANDARD, THEN SOMEBODY MAY COME UP WITH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLAN AND IF THIS COMMISSION'S GONNA CHANGE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS, AND THEY MAY AGREE NOT TO HAVE ANYTHING AT ALL.
SO LET'S ESTABLISH A STANDARD THAT'S GONNA BE THERE FOREVER.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS PLAN, SAY AYE.
YOUR MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION IS ACCEPTED.
[1. BPC2504-009 Revised Preliminary Plan - Eastman's Preserve Subdivision, Zoning OSRD - Applicant: Ragan Smith Associates, 315 Woodland Street, Nashville, TN 3206]
AGENDA.A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN AT EASTMAN'S PRESERVE SUBDIVISION ZONING, OSRD, REAGAN SMITH ASSOCIATES, UH, REQUEST APPROVAL OF A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR THE, THE EASTMAN'S PRESERVE SUBDIVISION.
THIS IS A 25 LOT SUBDIVISION THERE OFF FRANKLIN ROAD.
UM, THE REVISED PROPOSAL IS TO MODIFY THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UH, FENCING AROUND THE EXISTING CEMETERY.
UH, RATHER THAN ENCLOSING THE ENTIRE LIMITS OF THE CEMETERY, THIS NEW PROPOSAL CREATES A MORE OPEN YET DEFINED SPACE.
THE ENTRY WILL HAVE STONE COLUMNS AND A BLACK TWO BOARD FENCE.
UM, THE CORNERS OF THE CEMETERY WILL BE IDENTIFIED WITH LANDSCAPING, AND THEN, UM, YOU WILL HAVE SECTIONS OF FENCE ALONG THE SIDES, WHICH ARE, WHICH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH BLACK POST AND TWO BOARD, UH, RAILINGS.
UM, THE CEMETERY ONLY HAS, UH, TWO HEADSTONES, BUT IT HAS SEVERAL DEPRESSIONS AS YOU CAN SEE THERE.
UM, WE HAVE 13 STANDARD REQUIREMENTS AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PROPOSAL AND FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER PIPMAN, FOR THE RECORD, THOSE DEPRESSIONS, ARE THOSE INDICATIVE OF JUST UNMARKED BURIAL SPACES? YES.
I WASN'T AT THE BRIEFING MEETING THE OTHER DAY.
UM, THIS, THE ONLY CHANGE IS A, GOING FROM A CONTINUOUS FENCE TO THE SECTIONS OF FENCE.
THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE PLAN WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.
AND, UM, CAN YOU SHOW THE, THE WAY IT LOOKS NOW, POLICE JACKSON, JUST SO PEOPLE GET AN IDEA OF HOW IT LOOKS? IT'S TOTALLY ENCLOSED.
THIS WAS THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL.
I JUST MEANT THE PICTURE OF HOW THE, THE LAND LOOKS NOW.
OH, THERE, IT'S TOWARDS THE BACK.
SO IT'S, UM, THERE'S NO FENCING OR ANYTHING RIGHT NOW? YEAH.
UM, DO YOU HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE? IF YOU GET TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.
I'M DAVID ATCHESON WITH THE RIVERSTONE GROUP AND WE OFFICE HERE IN BRENTWOOD AT 1501 FRANKLIN ROAD.
UM, WHEN WE FIRST BEGAN PLANNING THIS DEVELOPMENT AND DISCOVERED THAT WE HAVE THIS REALLY UNIQUE, UH, REVOLUTIONARY WAR SOLDIERS FAMILY CEMETERY, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY COOL.
UH, AFTER REALLY STUDYING THE WHOLE PLAN, WE REALIZED THAT, UH, IN LARGE PART IT WAS LIMITED ACCESS BECAUSE IT WAS INSIDE THE, THE CHILDREN'S HOME, UH, PRIVATE CAMPUS.
SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE, WE CERTAINLY BENEFIT FROM IT BEING PART OF OUR OPEN SPACE, BUT ONE
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OF THE BIG REASONS WE WANTED TO PULL IT OUT AND PUT IT IN EASTMAN'S PRESERVE IS SO THAT THERE'D BE REALLY GOOD PUBLIC ACCESS.WE THINK THAT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT THING.
UH, THIS SOME, THIS KIND OF HISTORY.
SO WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, PLANS ARE GREAT ON PAPER AND THEN WE BEGIN BUILDING EVERYTHING OUT AND WE, WE FINISHED THE EASTMANS, ALL THE ROADWAYS.
AND, UH, SO WE BEGAN LOOKING AT THIS AND WE BEGAN TO MARK OFF THE BOUNDARIES.
AND WHEN YOU DID THAT, YOU REALIZE, OH MY GOODNESS, WE'RE GONNA BUILD A FENCE AROUND A THIRD OF AN ACRE AND IT'S GONNA BE A BARREN FIELD.
AND WE THOUGHT THIS CEMETERY DESERVES SOMETHING BETTER.
AND SO WHAT WE DID IS TO, TO GO IN AND FIGURE OUT, UH, HOW WE COULD ENHANCE, ADD SIX BRICK COL, UH, STONE COLUMNS WITH SIGNAGE TO, TO REALLY MARK THE ENTRANCE TO KIND OF ANNOUNCE THE CEMETERY.
AND THEN WE, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO ADD LANDSCAPING AT THE SAME TIME, PROTECT THE BOUNDARIES SO THAT IT'S CLEAR WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS.
AND WE THOUGHT WE'D MAKE IT REALLY MORE OF AN INVITING EXPERIENCE BY DOING, DOING THIS.
SO THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE'VE MADE PROPOSED TO MAKE THE CHANGE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT WE HAVE ON PAPER NOW, BUT WE THINK THIS HAS REALLY IMPROVED, UH, IN ENHANCING THE CEMETERY.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER TUCCI? YEAH, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING ALL OF THIS BECAUSE BASICALLY SUB SUBDIVISIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY HAVE FENCED OFF CEMETERIES.
I'VE GOT ONE IN TUSCANY HILLS AND THEY'RE IN OTHER, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER AREAS.
AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED AS TO WHY YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP A FENCE UP THERE TO PROTECT THAT AREA.
SO WE, I REALIZE THAT, THAT A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE SUBDIVISIONS HAVE THAT.
I KNOW IT'S NOT IN THE CODE AND WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO DO THAT, BUT WHEN WE SAW HOW LARGE THE AREA WAS WITH ONLY TWO, UH, GRAVESTONES, WE JUST FELT LIKE IT'S GONNA, AND IF YOU SAW THE PICTURES, IT'S JUST A BARREN FIELD.
AND SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD RATHER MARK THE BOUNDARY, BUT AT THE SAME, BUT ADD, ENHANCE IT BY DOING, IMPROVING THE ENTRANCE AND BY ADDING LANDSCAPING, UH, WHICH WOULD STILL MAKE IT FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GONNA KNOW WHEN YOU'RE IN THE CEMETERY, BUT IT, BUT WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT COMPLETELY BUILDING THE FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND IT.
COMMISSIONER, CAPTAIN, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER CHURCH, I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS DESIGN THAT THEY'RE PUTTING OUT, BUT I DO HAVE TO AGREE THAT THE STANDARD HAS BEEN A FULL FENCE AROUND IT.
I MEAN, IS THIS THE WAY OF THE FUTURE OR ARE WE GOING, I MEAN, I DON'T, I KNOW THERE'S NOT A SET STANDARD THAT IT HAS TO BE FENCED.
IS THAT CORRECT, TODD? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FENCED, CORRECT.
UH, BUT HISTORICALLY, UM, ALL OF THEM WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT, NEW SUBDIVISIONS, THEY HAVE BEEN FENCED.
WE'VE REQUIRED THEM TO BE FENCED.
I MEAN, I WOULD HATE FOR A BUNCH OF KIDS TO BE OVER THERE THINKING IT'S A PLAYGROUND 'CAUSE IT'S NOT FENCED OUT AND THEY CAN JUST BE ON TOP OF WHATEVER THE AREA THAT'S OPEN OUT THERE, THAT, THAT DOES HAVE A CONCERN.
I MEAN, I, I LOVE THIS DESIGN.
UM, UM, BUT THE STANDARD HAS BEEN, I THOUGHT THAT, THAT WE FENCED THE CEMETERIES.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT HAS TO BE, AND NOT A STANDARD, EXCUSE ME, BUT JUST THE, THE WAY THINGS HAVE, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DESIGNED.
AND, AND IF I COULD SAY I, I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE FENCE IS, UM, SO MUCH FOR PROTECTION THAT MAY BE AN ELEMENT.
UM, BUT IT, A LOT OF THE OLDER CEMETERIES, IT'S DEFINITELY DEFINED THE LIMITS OF THEM.
AND I THINK THIS IS ALSO DEFINING THE LIMITS OF THE CEMETERY.
WELL, ANYWAY, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
COMMISSIONER CROWLEY, ALL THE COLORED ELEMENTS ARE NEW PLANTINGS AND THERE'S JUST A FEW EXISTING VEGETATION, RIGHT? UH, CORRECT.
ACTUALLY, THERE'S REALLY HARDLY ANY, YOU HAVE ONE TREE IN THE MIDDLE WHERE THE GRAVESTONES ARE, AND THEN IT'S JUST A FIELD.
AND SO WE'RE ADDING ALL THIS LANDSCAPING IN, IN SUCH A WAY WHERE IT'S DESIGNED TO GO WITH SOME, UH, ACCENT FENCING.
AND THEN WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE ENTRANCE, WE'VE REALLY KIND OF MAKE IT MORE OF A, AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THERE'S A CEMETERY HERE IN, IN THE PRECAST CONCRETE ON THE STONE.
DOES IT SAY, DOES IT DECLARE THAT THIS IS A CEMETERY? YES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ACTUALLY, UH, WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH THE HISTORIC COMMISSION MM-HMM
TO, UH, FIGURE OUT LIKE THOSE, UH, AREAS ON THE STONE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT SIGNAGE AND TELL THE RIGHT STORY.
BUT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE MORE OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT IS A CEMETERY OTHER THAN JUST A, A, A BARREN FIELD WITH A FENCE AROUND IT.
YOU SHOW US THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN ONE LIST.
SO THERE WAS NO PLANTINGS, IT WAS JUST THE FENCE BEYOND
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THE FRONT ENTRANCE.IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS SOME, YOU KNOW, DECORATIVE LANDSCAPING AT THE ENTRANCE.
BUT, UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE, THE FENCE AND THE FENCE WAS GONNA BE WOOD, THE SIMILAR WOOD, WOOD, AND BRICK.
AND WHAT SOME, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE ADDED THE STONE, UH, THESE SIX STONE PILLARS MM-HMM
UH, AND KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEN WE'LL HAVE SIGNAGE.
THAT WILL, BUT THE ORIGINAL FENCE WAS WOOD, THE ORIGINAL FENCE YOU WERE GONNA PUT ALL THE WAY AROUND, WAS IT? YES.
WAS IT THE TWO, TWO FLAT WOOD WITH SOME BRICK COLUMNS? RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER LRE, ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANY BOUNDARY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS CEMETERY OR IS IT OPEN TO WHAT? CAN YOU SHOW THE OVERALL, IF YOU GO TO A PAGE BEFORE THAT PAGE? SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WHAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CEMETERY? THIS IS THE TENNESSEE BAPTIST CHILDREN'S HOME'S CAMPUS.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE A TREE RESERVE THERE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE ACTUAL AREA THAT IS WHERE THE DEPRESSIONS ARE FOR THE CEMETERY.
UH, IF, IF WE HAD A LOT OF GRAVESTONES IN THERE, IT'D BE GREAT.
UH, BUT THERE'S ONLY TWO AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, JUST MORE SPECIAL.
I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THE WEST SIDE OF IT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT NOT RIGHT HERE? YEAH.
THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S REALLY NO, THE ONLY TREE IS RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
DOES THE TREE LINE THAT YOU'RE BUILDING, DOES IT EXTEND ALONG THE B THE WEST BOUNDARY OF THE, UH, CEMETERY? OR IS IT JUST AND RIGHT IN THE CORNER OF YOUR GREENFIELD? WHAT'S THAT? THE, UM, SORRY.
UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE WHERE WE JUST WERE THERE AT THE TOP THERE? YOU WERE SAYING THIS IS A TREE, WELL, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? A TREE LINE RIGHT HERE.
THE TREE RESERVE, UH, THAT'S OFF OF THE CEMETERY AREA, BUT OKAY.
AND NOW WE HAVE, IT WON'T GO TO THE CEMETERY.
IT WON'T BE TO CEMETERY MARKET.
SO IT'S GONNA STOP IN THE CORNER THERE.
I'M HEATHER GRIMES WITH REAGAN SMITH.
UM, THAT BUFFER, THAT'S A 50 FOOT BUFFER ON THE TENNESSEE BAPTIST CHILDREN'S HOME SIDE.
AND IT DOES GO UP AROUND AND ALL, ALL AROUND THE, THE, UM, ADJACENT PROPERTY THERE.
SO IT WILL, UM, IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK TO THAT OTHER SIDE, TODD, THAT YOU WERE ON, IT SHOWS IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
YOU CAN SEE UP HERE ON THE FAR, ON THE WESTERN SIDE.
THAT RUNS EXISTING TREES OR IS THAT NEW PLANT BASED? THOSE ARE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON THE, ON THE CAMPUS SIDE.
UM, THE EXISTING TREES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE KIND OF SOLID AND JUST GREEN THAT DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH DECORATIVE.
SO THERE WILL BE SOME SORT OF BUFFER BETWEEN THE CHILDREN'S HOME AND THE THERE WILL BASEMENT, YES.
AND YOUR GREEN SPACE THAT JUST SITS IN IS UNDEVELOPED, IT'S NOT A PLAYGROUND OR, OH, NO, NOTHING.
IT'S NOT AN AMENITY SPACE? NO.
THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, WE HAVE OTHER OPEN SPACE FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, IF FAMILIES WANT TO HAVE A PICNIC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE, WE WANT TO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, A MARKED BOUNDARY.
WE, WE THINK THIS IS JUST A MORE BEAUTIFUL WAY TO DO IT.
AND HONESTLY, THE SPACE FROM THE CUL-DE-SAC UP INTO THE CEMETERY IS MORE LIKE AN OPEN KIND OF FIELD.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO PICK UP MAIL OR SOMETHING, YOU'RE WALKING YOUR DOG AROUND, UM, THE CEMETERY'S KIND OF SET BACK AS YOU CAN SEE, SO YOU, YOU'RE KIND OF HAVING TO WALK UP THIS PATH.
UM, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S, IT'S SUPER, UM, I GUESS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ACTIVE.
MORE OF A PASSIVE, IT'S SORT OF SECLUDED TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
YOU GOOD? EVERYBODY? ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER PIPPEN? UH, ASIDE FROM THE, UH, SIGNAGE ON THE ENTRANCE THERE, ON THOSE TWO COLUMNS, WILL THERE BE ANY SIGNAGE IN THE INTERIOR AT ALL? HISTORICAL NARRATIVE IN THE, IN, UH, AROUND THE CEMETERY ITSELF? YES.
THAT'S WHAT WE PLAN TO DO ON THOSE.
UH, WE PLAN TO USE SIGNAGE LIKE THE METAL HISTORY SIGNS THAT YOU SEE AROUND.
IN FACT, WE HAVE A, WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING TO, AGAIN, TO COLLABORATE WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION ABOUT GETTING ALL THE COPYRIGHT CONTENT RIGHT.
BUT YEAH, WE WANT TO USE THOSE, UH, COLUMNS.
WE THINK IT MAKES IT FEEL MORE PERMANENT TO HAVE SIGNAGE ON THOSE COLUMNS, THE STONE COLUMNS, SO.
GET ON, UNDERSTAND ANYTHING FURTHER.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS MATTER? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN
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FOR EASTMAN'S PRESERVED SUBDIVISION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT? SO MOVED.MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER KAPLAN.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CROWLEY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER KAPLAN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
PER OUR CODES, DO THEY, ARE THEY EVEN REQUIRED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE CEMETERY? I MEAN, IF THEY LEFT IT AS IS INITIALLY, I MEAN, IT'S WELL WITHIN THEIR RIGHT.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD A BOUNDARY AROUND IT OR DO THIS OR ANY OF IT.
WELL, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I MEAN, HISTORICALLY THIS BOARD HAS REQUIRED THAT THE CEMETERIES BE, HAVE SOME TYPE OF FENCING.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT IN THE CODE, BUT YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF REQUIRING THAT.
IS IS THERE ANY VIEW ON THIS BY THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION? DO WE KNOW OUR REPRESENTATIVE IS NOT HERE AT THE, AND I THINK WHEN, WHEN EASTMAN PRESERVE WAS FIRST PROPOSED, THERE WAS DISCUSSION AND I THINK THEY WERE JUST HAPPY THAT IT WAS GONNA BE RECOGNIZED BECAUSE THERE JUST HAD BEEN THE BLACK, THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE BLACK MARKER ABOVE GROUND AND THE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THE HEAD ZONES WEREN'T REALLY, EVEN THE ONES THAT ARE THERE NOW, THE, THE ONE THAT'S THERE NOW WAS PUT IN LIKE TWO, EITHER RAISED UP OR REBUILT OR SOMETHING IN 2003 BY THE HISTORIC, UM, COMMISSION.
THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS UP, UH, UP THERE BY THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
SO I THINK THEY'RE JUST GLAD THAT IT'S BEING RECOGNIZED AS, THAT'S THE IMPRESSION I GOT WHEN, WHEN WE APPROVED THE PLANS.
AND THOSE I THINK ARE FROM THE SAME.
I THINK THEY, THE OTHER THING IS A MILITARY MEDALLION.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S THE SAME FOR THE SAME SOLDIER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT THE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
UH, THE PLAN PASSES SIX TO ONE.
THANK YOU AND THANKS COMMISSIONER TUCCI FOR, UH, BRINGING UP MAKING SURE WE DISCUSSED IT.
I, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT YOU, THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO BE AWARE OF.
[2. BPC2504-011 Revised Site Plan - Split Log Middle School, Williamson County Schools, 9714 Split Log Road, Zoning SI-2 - Applicant: Catalyst Design Group, 5100 Tennessee Avenue, Nashville, TN 37209]
NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL, BPC 25 0 4 DASH 0 1 1 I REVISED SITE PLAN FOR THE SPLIT LOG MIDDLE SCHOOL, UH, PRESENTED BY THE WILLIAMS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT 9 7 1 4 SPLIT LOG ROAD ZONING, SI TWO, UM, CATALYST DESIGN GROUP REQUEST APPROVAL OF A REVISED SITE PLAN TO UPDATE THE VESTING FOR THE SPLIT LOG MIDDLE SCHOOL.THIS PROJECT WAS, UH, INITIALLY REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN 2022.
HOWEVER, THE INITIAL VESTING EXPIRES ON JULY 5TH, 2025.
THE REVISED PLAN ALSO MODIFIES THE STORMWATER PROVISIONS TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT REQUIREMENTS.
ONE OTHER CHANGE TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN INCLUDES TWO DIFFERENT ROOFING MATERIAL OPTIONS.
ONE OPTION PROPOSES AN ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF.
UM, THE OTHER OPTION PROPOSES A STANDING STEAM SEAM METAL ROOF.
THE CHOICE WILL BE BASED ON AVAILABLE FUNDING AND PRICING FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
THE PROPOSED SCHOOL WILL CONTINUE TO BE 180 3084 SQUARE FEET AND IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE EXISTING JORDAN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL UTILIZE THE, THE SAME ACCESS POINT AS JORDAN ELEMENTARY WITH DRIVES AROUND THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE CAMPUS TO ALLOW FOR TRAFFIC CIRCULATION.
THE SCHOOL WILL INCLUDE 370 PARKING SPACES, 20 UH, BUS SPACES.
UM, THE SCHOOL WILL HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HOLD 1000 STUDENTS AND A STAFF OF 90 MEMBERS WITH 54 CLASSROOMS. WE HAVE FOUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL CONDITION.
ONE CURRENT TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE BEING OBSERVED AND WILL BE USED TO UPDATE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.
SHOULD THE UPDATED TRAFFIC STUDY RECOMMEND ON OR OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS OTHER THAN THOSE SHOWN IN THE SITE PLAN PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THIS EVENING.
AN UPDATED SITE PLAN WILL BE REQUIRED AND SHALL COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AT A LATER REVIEW AND APPROVAL AT A LATER DATE.
CONDITION TWO, INDICATE PROPOSED PERMANENT STABILIZATION METHODS FOR STEEP SLOPES AND SHOW AREAS REQUIRING ADDITIONAL MEASURES ON THE PLANS CONDITION.
ALL OUTSIDE AGENCY PERMITS WILL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF A GRADING PERMIT.
APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED LID WAIVER FOR OVERALL SITE WATER QUALITY MEASURES OF FULL OR PARTIAL WAIVER TO BE REVIEWED WITH GRADING PERMIT
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SUBMITTAL AS SHOWN EXTENDED DETENTION COMPLIES WITH STORMWATER REGULATIONS.80% TSS REDUCTION IN THE EVENT THE ADOPTED METRO WATER SERVICE VOLUME FIVE MEASURES CANNOT BE UTILIZED.
THAT WILL BE A STANDARD REQUIREMENT.
UM, WE HAVE 17 STANDARD REQUIREMENTS AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING STAFF APPROVAL, OR WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL, UH, WITH THE REC WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE WATER.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT LAST SENTENCE? YEAH, ACTUALLY I'LL DEFER TO ENGINEERING.
THE LAST CONDITION OF APPROVAL, CORRECT? YEAH.
WHAT THAT WAIVER IS, AND I, AND I READ IN THERE THE APPLICATION THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SLOPES ARE CHANGING AND, AND THE DETENTION POND.
BUT IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THAT LAST ONE FOR US.
THE, THE LAST IS IN REGARDS TO WATER QUALITY.
SO OUR INITIAL TAKE ON WATER QUALITY IS FOLLOWING METRO, UH, VOLUME FIVE MEASURES, WHICH ARE, UH, MORE INFILTRATION TYPE MEASURES.
UM, WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, LIKE A, MAYBE A RAIN GARDEN OR A BIO RETENTION POND.
SOME, SOME MEASURE THAT TAKES THE WATER AND ABSORBS INTO THE GROUND.
THERE'S PROVISIONS AS, UH, IF YOU HAVE A, IF YOU HAVE A SITE THAT ISN'T REALLY CONDUCIVE TO INFILTRATION SUCH THIS SITE, WHICH REALLY CLOSE TO ROCK, THEN THERE'S OTHER MEASURES.
THE 80% TSS REMOVAL IS KIND OF THE OLD STANDARD WHERE IT'S NOT, UM, YOU'RE NOT INFILTRATING, YOU'RE JUST TREATING THE WATER, UM, THAT WATER QUALITY AMOUNT MM-HMM
AND LETTING THE, THE, UH, UH, THE POLLUTANTS KIND OF SETTLE OUT.
UM, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY CAPTURING THE WATER AND, AND, AND INFILTRATING INTO THE GROUND.
IT'S, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT KIND OF DIFFERENT KIND OF MEASURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? YEAH, I, I DO.
UM, COMMISSIONER LRE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE FIRST CONDITION ABOUT TRAFFIC AND HOW THAT MIGHT PLAY OUT? SURE.
UM, WELL, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA DEFER TO ENGINEERING AGAIN.
UM, I THINK IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE, COME HERE, I'M SORRY.
HERE THAT ONE, GO TO THIS PODIUM JUST AS MUCH
AND WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS I DEFER TO KEVIN, NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.
BUT, UM, SO IF, AS YOU KNOW, A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WAS DONE FOR THIS PLAN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHEN THE PLAN CAME IN, AGAIN, THAT TRAFFIC STUDY WAS REVIEWED, UH, UPDATED A BIT.
AS PART OF THAT UPDATE, WE ASKED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC COUNTS BECAUSE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT WERE DONE PRIOR WERE DURING, I THINK THEY WERE DURING COVID EITHER, UH, DURING OR IMMEDIATELY AFTER COVID WHEN WE THOUGHT THAT THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES HADN'T COME BACK UP TO AVERAGE.
SO WE'RE ASKING THAT THEY ADDRESS THOSE, UH, TRAFFIC COUNTS, UPDATE THOSE TRAFFIC COUNTS.
THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL STATES ESSENTIALLY THAT IF THERE'S SUCH AN INCREASE IN THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT WARRANTS A CHANGE OR REVISION TO THE SITE PLAN, THEN THE SITE PLAN HAS TO COME BACK.
SHOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.
AND THE ORIGINAL, UH, WAS THE TRAFFIC COUNT EXPECTED TO BE ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT OCCURS ON CROCKETT ROAD WHERE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ARE TOGETHER? I'M SORRY.
UH, COMMISSIONER, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION.
ARE YOU ASKING TO COMPARE THIS, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY WITH THE ONE AT CROCKETT? YEAH.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE CAN ANTICIPATE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS IN FRONT OF A TWO SCHOOL BACKUP LIKE EXISTS ON CROCKETT ROAD IN THE MORNINGS.
I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT SCHOOL.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS SCHOOL, WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS IN ENGINEERING AND BECAUSE THE NEW EDITION IS BEHIND THE, UH, EXISTING, THERE'S A TON OF QUEUING AVAILABLE TO GET BACK TO, UH, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
IF YOU HAVE, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THAT, HOW THIS SCHOOL POSSIBLY RELATES TO THE OTHER SCHOOL, IT MIGHT BE BETTER FOR YOU TO ASK THE APPLICANT OR SOMEONE THAT'S HERE FROM THE COUNTY.
WE NEED TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO DISCUSS THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
WAIT, WE'LL BETWEEN BOTH SCHOOLS WE WILL, WE'LL GET THERE.
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OKAY.AND IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS, WE'LL BE GLAD TO HELP.
HI, HOW ARE YOU? I'M PHILLIP PIERCE.
I'M WITH CATALYST DESIGN GROUP HERE TO REPRESENT THIS PROJECT.
AS THE STAFF HAS MENTIONED, THIS IS ALMOST IDENTICAL PLAN THAT Y'ALL APPROVED PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WILL EXPIRE THE 5TH OF JULY, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW US THE TIME.
WE UNDERSTAND WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A GRADING PERMIT, UM, ACTIVE BEFORE JULY TO KEEP THAT ACTIVE.
UM, AND SO WE NEED TO GET THREE APPROVAL SO WE CAN EXTEND THE APPROVAL AND, AND BE ABLE TO MEET THE, HAVE A BIDDING TIME, PERMITTING TIME AND, UH, BIDDING TIME TO, TO GET THIS UNDER CONTRACT.
UM, WITH REGARD TO THE STAFF COMMENTS, I, UH, I WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO WORD THE CONDITION ONE WHERE IF IT'S A MINOR THING, I DON'T, I WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO COMMISSION IT.
JUST IF THERE'S SOME RE STRIPING ON THE, ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, ON THE, ON THE ONSITE WORK, IF THERE WAS SOME WAY THE STAFF COULD REVIEW IT AND SAY WHETHER IT'S A MINOR CHANGE THAT THEY COULD APPROVE OR SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO Y'ALL, IF THAT COULD BE REWORDED, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
'CAUSE JUST HATE TO GO JUMP THROUGH A HOOP FOR SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, JUST SOME RETRIP OR SOMETHING ON SITE.
UM, OTHERWISE I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
AND WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ARCHITECTURAL TEAM AND THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE.
COMMISSIONER LRE, ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY.
COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE TRAFFIC FLOW BETWEEN THE TWO SCHOOLS THERE? 'CAUSE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL GOING UP ON, HOW IS THAT TRAFFIC FLOW IS GONNA BE BEHIND THERE OR NOT YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT, WELL, ONE THING I WANNA SAY, ERIC GARDNER WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY SCHOOLS, UM, ONE THING TO NOTE, UM, THE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL HAVE DIFFERENT STARTING AND, UH, UH, FINISH TIMES.
SO, UH, THEY'RE ROUGHLY ABOUT AN HOUR APART.
UH, SO TYPICALLY, AND WE, WE HAVE A, A HANDFUL OF SCHOOLS AROUND THE DISTRICT THAT HAVE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE OR MIDDLE HIGH SCHOOL ON THE SAME CAMPUS.
UH, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL SAME TIMES.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
BUT SCHOOLS WHERE WE HAVE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL, TYPICALLY THAT HOUR ALLOWS FOR THE, THE FIRST SCHOOL TO BE DISMISSED OUT OF THE WAY.
SO YOU'RE USUALLY NOT MIXING TRAFFIC, BUT TO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON HOW IT WILL WORK, UM, I GUESS, SO THIS EX OR THIS ENTRANCE WILL STILL BE THE SAME FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHERE THEY'LL COME IN HERE, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL THEN CONTINUE ON BACK.
UM, SO IT IS THE SAME, IT IS THE SAME ENTRANCE FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
UH, BUSES WILL COME IN OVER HERE FOR THE, NO, IT'S DEAD NEED.
DO WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL HERE? UM, SO MIDDLE AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BUSES WILL COME IN THIS ENTRANCE, MIDDLE OR ELEMENTARY HERE, MIDDLE TO THE BACK.
UM, SO, UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, A LOT OF ONSITE STACKING, UH, AVAILABLE.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT, UH, MULTIPLE LANES COMING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF ONSITE, UH, STACKING THAT, THAT SHOULD ALLOW FOR, UH, VEHICLES TO BE ON SITE AND NOT, UH, UH, BACKING UP ON SPLIT LOG ROAD.
YEAH, I, MY QUESTION EARLIER WAS IN REFERENCE TO CROCKETT AND WOODLAND.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW THE GEOGRAPHY OF THIS VERSUS THAT OR THE Q SPACE AVAILABLE, BUT YOU PROBABLY KNOW IN THE MORNING, CROCKETT GETS BACKED UP.
THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, ON MANY OCCASIONS THERE'S MUCH, MUCH LESS ON SITE, UM, STACKING ON THOSE SCHOOLS.
SO, UH, WHAT IS IT? VOLUNTEER? YEAH, VOLUNTEER PARKWAY.
UH, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF YOUR STACKING ENDS UP BEING.
UH, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A, A CHURCH, YOU'VE GOT, UH, A PARK, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC, UH, THAT USE, UH, VOLUNTEER.
SO, UH, YOU'VE GOT A GOOD MIXTURE, UM, THAT ADDS TO THE PUBLIC STREET.
UM, I'M RICHARD PHILLIPS, UM, 1 0 6 MISSION COURT, FRANKLIN, TENNESSEE.
I'M THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT AND I'M ALSO A LONG TIME CONSULTANT FOR PUBLIC WORKS IN
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THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD.UM, COULD YOU SET FOR, I'M SORRY IF YOU TALKING INTO THE PODIUM? YEAH, I'M SORRY.
I'M ALSO A LONG TIME CONSULTANT FOR THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
UH, AND SO ONE OF THE KEY DIFFERENCES, UM, WITH THIS SCHOOL LAYOUT IS THAT SEPARATE BUS ACCESS, UH, CROCKETT WOODLAND DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
SO THEY HAVE BUSES COME IN AND OUT OF THE, OF THE VOLUNTEER PARKWAY AND ALSO, UM, ON THE CORNER THERE, IT'S A VERY TIGHT RADIUS DUE TO SOME UTILITIES.
THE BUSES HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING IN AND OUT.
THEY'VE HAD ON THE SIGNAL THERE, THEY'VE HAD TO PUSH THE STOP LINE WAY BACK, UM, WHICH TO GET THE BUSES TO BE ABLE TO EXIT, UH, AT THAT.
SO THIS SEPARATE FACILITY WHERE YOU'VE COMPLETELY TAKEN THE BUSES OUT OF THE EQUATION GREATLY IMPROVES THE SITUATION.
AS ERIC HAS MENTIONED, UH, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF STACKING THAT'S BUILT INTO THIS, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL CONCEPT WHERE YOU HAVE THREE LANES THAT WRAP ALL THE WAY AROUND, UH, TO THE BACK.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE STAGGERED, UH, SCHOOL TIMES AS TODD MENTIONED.
UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF COLLECTING NEW, UH, TRAFFIC COUNT DATA ACTUALLY THIS WEEK.
UH, AND SO THEN THAT DATA WILL BE INCORPORATED AND, AND, AND AN UPDATED STUDY WILL BE PREPARED.
AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT ANYTHING NEEDS TO CHANGE IN TERMS OF THE, OF THE PLAN.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT, UM, TRAFFIC COUNT, EVEN WHEN SCHOOLS ARE FULLY LOADED, WON'T HAVE AN IMPACT LIKE EXISTS ON CROCKETT ROAD? YEAH, IT, IT, YEAH.
I MEAN, IT, IT REALLY SHOULDN'T.
IT'S A BETTER DESIGN IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO, TO, TO SPLIT THINGS OUT.
COULD YOU SHOW WHERE THAT THE, THE PARENTS THAT ARE DRIVING THEIR STUDENTS BACK THERE AND WRAPPING AROUND PARKING LOT, A ARE THEY GOING TO EXIT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A OR ARE THEY GOING TO GO THROUGH PARKING LOT? C THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND EXIT AND ENTER AT THIS, AT THIS POINT, SO, OKAY.
AND THERE'S A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE, CORRECT.
WHAT'S YOUR PLAN? WHAT'S THE PLANNING OF THE SCHOOL ITSELF? WHEN WOULD YOU BE STARTING IN A COUPLE YEARS OR OUR FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION, UM, SAYS THAT WE, UM, NEED TO OPEN IT BY THE FALL OF 27 OF 27.
WITH REGARDS TO THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE THE PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS GONNA BE WITH THE CITY BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO HIT US WHEN WE PUT INTO 300 HOMES FROM ROSEBROOK, THE 50 HOMES OFF OF SAN DONALDSON ROAD TO TURNBERRY, AND THEY'RE ALL GONNA COME DOWN ON SPLIT LOG.
AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IF I LOOK AT PAGE 78 OF THE 2076 OF THE 2030 PLAN, THAT'S THE FASTEST GROWING AREA THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS ON SPLIT LOG FOR THE CITY.
SO I GO TO THE CITY, WHAT IS OUR PLAN WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS SPLIT LOG ROAD IN THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS, IF ANYTHING AT ALL? JAY EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM HAS TWO PROJECTS IN IT.
SPLIT WALL ROAD PHASE THREE A AND THREE B.
PHASE THREE A IS FROM SAM DONALD ROAD UP TO THE INTERSECTION WITH SUNSET AND WALLER.
THAT'S THE FIRST ONE THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTION AND WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN CONSTRUCTION EXPECTED TO COMMENCE DEPENDING ON THE PROGRESS ON RAGSDALE ROAD IN 2027, IN 20.
WHAT PAGES WAS THAT ON? PAGE 85.
THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
AND THEN YOU'LL LOOK TO PAGE 87 TO FIND PHASE THREE B, WHICH IS FROM EAST OF PLEASANT HILL ROAD WHERE THE WHITENING STOPS, IF YOU WILL, AND NARROWS BACK DOWN UP TO SAM.
DONALD CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN 2030.
SO THERE'S A LONG LEAD TIME ON PRELIMINARY DESIGN DESIGN RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION PERMITTING.
A ROAD PROJECT OF THIS SIGNIFICANCE TAKES A LONG TIME TO DO THIS.
ONE GOT SPLIT BECAUSE OF THE COST AND TIMING.
UH, AND SO YOU WILL FIND THAT IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, A PLAN TO ADDRESS THE LOG ROAD.
AND THE, UH, PAGE 87 IS GONNA ADDRESS THE ALBRIDGE ROAD OR THE AL THAT LITTLE BRIDGE THAT WE'VE GOT THERE.
FROM, FROM EAST OF OF PLEASANT HILL ROAD UP TO ST.
YEAH, THAT SECTION'S ABOUT 0.64 MILES AND THE OTHER SECTION'S ABOUT A MILE.
THAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S WE'VE GOTTA BE CAREFUL ABOUT BECAUSE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE 300 PLUS HOMES COMING IN, TWO, TWO VEHICLES PER HOUSE, MAYBE 600 VEHICLES A DAY THAT ARE GONNA COME IN AND OUT OF THERE.
THEN YOU'VE GOT THE SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S GOING ON, AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONGESTION'S
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GONNA BE.BUT, AND I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE 2030 PLAN.
I LOOKED THAT UP AND IN THE 2030 PLAN, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE FOUND THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL BECAUSE OF WHEN IT WAS, WHEN THAT PLAN WAS ADOPTED.
BUT THE CIP IS UPDATED EVERY YEAR.
I JUST HAD, UM, WHAT FEEDER SCHOOLS WILL THIS NEW, UM, MIDDLE SCHOOL RELIEF? SO, UH, WE DON'T DO REZONING UNTIL CONSTRUCTION STARTED WHEN, UM, UH, WE DON'T NAME A PRINCIPAL.
WE DON'T, I I KNOW WE'VE REFERRED TO IT AS SPLIT LOG METAL.
THAT'S NOT REALLY THE, THE NAME OF IT.
SO A LOT OF THAT WILL HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD, OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY JORDAN IS GOING TO BE A FEEDER TO IT.
UM, WHERE, WHERE I REFERRING TO MIDDLE SCHOOL, I WAS REFERRING TO MIDDLE SCHOOL FEEDER SCHOOLS.
WHICH, WHICH, WHERE DO THE JORDAN STUDENTS GO NOW? OH, WHERE DO THEY GO NOW? UM, THEY GO TO SUNSET OR IT'S AN
AND THEN I NOTICED THERE'S A MULTIPURPOSE FIELD.
IS THAT A FOOTBALL FIELD OR IS THAT TOO SMALL FOR FOOTBALL? IT'S A, WELL, IT, ALL OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS HAVE WHAT WE CALL A MULTIPURPOSE THAT THEY LARGE ENOUGH FOR, FOR SOCCER AND FOOTBALL.
SO IF THEY HAVE A FOOTBALL PROGRAM, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE OFFSITE SOMEWHERE? NO, NO.
IT THEY'LL, THEY, THEY WILL LIKELY PLAY FOOTBALL THERE.
SO, UM, LEGACY MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH WAS BUILT IN, UH, 2020, UH, THIS IS FOLLOWING THAT DESIGN.
UM, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WITH, WITH LEGACY IS LEGACY'S A TWO STORY.
THIS IS THREE STORY BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY, BUT IT STILL HAS A, A, A FOOTBALL FIELD SLASH SOCCER FIELD SLASH MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD.
UH, THEY, UH, LEGACY DOES PLAY THEIR GAMES ON THAT FIELD AND THEN THE SOFTBALL BASEBALL FIELD.
IT'S JUST TOO PRELIMINARY FOR BLEACHERS AND WHATEVER.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I WAS, WELL AGAIN, WE, WITH MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WE DO NOT EQUIP THEM WITH, WITH BLEACHERS.
TYPICALLY THE SCHOOLS WILL COME BACK LATER AND WANT TO ADD THOSE.
UH, WE DO AT HIGH, WE, WE EQUIP THE HIGH SCHOOLS WITH ALL, ALL THOSE FEATURES, BUT MIDDLE SCHOOLS WE DO NOT.
COMMISSIONER
UH, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN BY THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BUT I THINK THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, ISN'T IT? YES SIR.
AND IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO MIRROR THAT BUILDING WITH THIS ONE? THERE'S BUILDING ALL
I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT WILL MIRROR EXACTLY.
I'LL, I'LL LET MY ARCHITECT EXPLAIN.
SPARK KLEIN WITH KLE ASSOCIATES, 22 MIDDLETON STREET, NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE.
UH, SO THE OBJECTIVE IS NOT TO DUPLICATE, BUT TO BE IN THE SAME REALM.
UM, ALSO YOU'RE NOT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SO YOU KNOW, A MORE, UM, UPTICK IN AGE GROUP AND IN ARCHITECTURE, BUT WE STILL HAVE AN ALL MASONRY BUILDING WITH SOME LIMESTONE BANDING.
SO SIMILAR COMPONENTS WITHOUT COPYING.
AND THE ROOF ON JORDAN ELEMENTARY IS STANDING SEAM OR IT'S A MIXTURE.
THEY'RE STANDING SEAM FOR ACCENTS LIKE YOU SEE IN THESE DORMERS OVER HERE.
UM, WE HAVE EITHER SHINGLE OR STANDING SEAM.
IT'S GONNA BE A HARD BID PROJECT.
THE PREFERENCES, HOPEFULLY FOR THE DOLLARS WE CAN GET THE STANDING SCENE TO SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY FOR THE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE COST.
BUT WE WILL SEE ON BID DAY HOW THAT COMES IN.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UH, THE WHOLE PROJECT THAT WAS UP THERE A MINUTE AGO RIGHT HERE? UM, JUST A QUESTION.
UM, THE BUS PARKING FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THAT'S AT THE TOP, CORRECT.
IT, IT, ARE THEY GONNA HAVE TO BACK OUT OF THERE? ARE THOSE, IS IT ARE OR ARE THOSE, THOSE FLOW THROUGH PARKING PLACES? YEAH, IT'S JUST STRIPING SO THEY CAN DRIVE AROUND.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A BORDER THERE.
YEAH, IT'S JUST THE, BECAUSE OF THIS PLAN BEING A, A SMALLER SCALE THAN ENLARGEMENT, IT'S, IT'S JUST HATCH STRIPING THAT KIND OF BLENDS TOGETHER.
SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO PULL IN AND BACK OUT.
ANYBODY ELSE, GENTLEMEN? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU AGAIN.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE STAFF HAVE SOME LEEWAY ON THAT.
THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF EXPENSE AND TIME AND MAKING A SUBMITTAL.
UM, SO IF THERE'S SOME WAY THE STAFF COULD REWORK, UM, OKAY.
UH, I, I'M, UH, AGREEABLE, ADDING THE WORD, UM, SIGNIFICANT OWNER OFF IMPACTS AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE JUDGMENT
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AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THOSE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.I DON'T THINK WE WOULD'VE DONE THAT ANYWAY, IF IT WOULD'VE JUST BEEN A SIMPLE, UH, STRIPING CHANGE.
BUT, UM, IF, IF IT, UH, MAKES EVERYONE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT CONDITION, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT REQUIRES, UH, SOME SORT OF AMENDMENT TO THAT CONDITION OR MS. CORN.
YOU COULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM TOO.
IT WILL, IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO DO, IF YOU MAKE, IF WHEN YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE IS MADE, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO IT AT THAT TIME.
JUST ADD THAT AS AN AMENDMENT OR, OR CHANGE.
IF YOU WANNA DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS YOUR MOTION, IT'S AS YOUR MOTION, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
OR IF SOMEONE JUST WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS AND THEN SOMEONE MAKE AN AMENDMENT, THAT'S JUST AN EXTRA STEP.
BUT, BUT IN YOUR, WHOEVER MAKES THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE, ASSUMING IT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE, YOU COULD MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION WITHIN THAT MOTION INSTEAD OF CALLING IT AI.
JUST CLARIFICATION OF THE POINT.
SO JUST MR. CHURCH, JUST TO BE CLEAR IN WITHIN CONDITION ONE, THE SECOND SENTENCE WOULD BE, SHOULD THE UPDATED TRAFFIC STUDY RECOMMEND SIGNIFICANT ON OFFSITE? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER CHURCH, A QUESTION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
WHEN DO WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT DONE? UH, THE, THE NEW TRAFFIC STUDY.
WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THE NEW THE NEW COUNTS? UM, THEN WE FINISHED THIS THIS WEEK, BUT IT IS LIKE THE ORIGINAL STUDY, THIS 280 PAGE DOCUMENT, IT, IT'S GONNA BE SOMETIME PROBABLY LATE IN JUNE.
WE ALL GOOD? COMMISSIONER CROWLEY, MOTION TO APPROVE AND ADD THE WORD SIGNIFICANT INTO THE FIRST COMMISSION.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LANGREN.
FIRST, UH, MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CROWLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE REVISED SITE PLAN AT SPLIT LOG MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH A ADDITION OF THE WORD SIGNIFICANT TO CONDITION ONE, SAY AYE.
[3. BPC2504-012 Preliminary Plan - Rosebrooke South Subdivision, Split Log Road, Zoning OSRD - Applicant: Ragan Smith Associates, 315 Woodland Street, Nashville, TN 37206]
THIRD ITEM, BPC 25 0 4 DASH 0 1 2.A PRELIMINARY PLAN AT ROSEBROOK SOUTH SUBDIVISION SPIT LUCK ROAD ZONING, OSRD, REAGAN SMITH ASSOCIATES REQUEST APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR THE ROSEBROOK SOUTH SUBDIVISION.
UM, THE REVISED OSRD DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 3RD, 2025 AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, UH, AT THEIR FEBRUARY 24TH, 2025 MEETING.
THE NUMBER OF LOTS WITHIN THE PROJECT REMAINS UNCHANGED.
UM, THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAN SHOWS A TOTAL OF FOUR SECTIONS.
UM, SECTION ONE ONLY INCLUDES ONE 1.65 ACRE OPEN SPACE TRACK TO SERVE AS AN AMENITY AREA.
THE AMENITY AREA ALSO PROPOSES, UH, TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS.
ONE TENNIS COURT SLASH TWO TWO ADDITIONAL PICKLEBALL COURTS A PARKING LOT HAVING NINE PARKING SPACES AND THREE GOLF CART SPACES.
UM, A SHADE STRUCTURE WITH, WITH BENCHES, UH, TWO STONE COLUMNS AT THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE, UM, AND THE ASSOCIATED EXTENSION OF SOUTHWICK DRIVE, WHICH WILL PRO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE SITE FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THE ROSEBROOK PROJECTS.
SO THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO UTILIZE THIS WHILE THE REST OF THE SUBDIVISIONS BEING DEVELOPED.
UH, THIS, THAT OPEN SPACE TRACK, ONE BEING SECTION ONE, UM, A MORE DETAILED SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED AMENITY IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE REQUIRED FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AT A LATER DATE.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO REQUESTED A VARIANCE FROM ARTICLE 5.1 OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WHICH REQUIRES THAT A FINAL PLAT FOR EACH SECTION, UH, CONTAIN AT LEAST 10 LOTS.
UM, SINCE SECTION ONE WILL ONLY HAVE THIS ONE OPEN SPACE TRACK, UM, THEY NEED A, A VARIANCE FOR THAT SECTION OF THE CODE AND STAFF SUPPORTS THAT REQUEST.
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WE HAVE ONE CONDITION OF APPROVAL, A SEPARATE MORE DETAILED SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR THE OPEN SPACE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE REQUIRED.AND WE HAVE, UH, SEVEN 17 STANDARD REQUIREMENTS AND STAFF REQUESTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE TO APPROVE THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN AND FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS.
UH, SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STAFF REPORT.
THE FIRST IS, UM, THE REASON THAT WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THE MORE DETAILED PLAN NOW, IS IT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE, THIS HAS TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COMMISSION FIRST, SO THEY'RE JUST GONNA WAIT TO GET THAT APPROVAL TO GIVE US A MORE DETAILED PLAN, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, PARTIALLY, I I THINK THE OTHER REASON IS THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEIR PROPOSAL, UM, THAT THE BOARDS ARE OKAY WITH THE PROPOSAL.
THE SECOND WITHOUT, WITHOUT PROVIDING MORE DETAILS.
AND THE SECOND IS, UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON THURSDAY ABOUT PUTTING A CONDITION ON ABOUT SIGNAGE ABOUT THAT THIS IS SO THAT THE PEOPLE BUYING THE NEIGHBORING LOTS KNEW THAT THAT YEAH.
SO, UM, RIGHT, SO WE TALKED ABOUT THURSDAY.
UM, SO NONE OF THESE LOTS, NONE OF THESE LOTS ARE DEVELOPED AND NONE OF NONE OF THESE LOTS ARE, ARE CURRENTLY SOLD.
SO, UH, IN SPEAKING TO THE DEVELOPER BEFORE THIS MEETING, AND HE CAN ELABORATE ON THIS WHEN YOU CALL HIM, CALL HIM UP.
UM, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S FULL DISCLOSURE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA DISCLOSE THIS DURING THE PARADE OF HOMES AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE SIGN SOMETHING ACKNOWLEDGING.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? IF THE APPLICANTS COULD PLEASE COME FORWARD.
HEY, HOW ARE YOU GETTING? GOOD.
WE'RE AT TWO 15 WARD CIRCLE, BRENTWOOD.
ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD OR EMBELLISH ON THE PRESENTATION? UH, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION AND DESIGN ROUTE COMMITTEE HAS REJECTED SEVERAL PRIVATE RESIDENCES REQUESTS TO ADD THESE PICKLEBALL FACILITIES TO THEIR RESIDENCES.
SO JUST AS THIS PLAN HAS CONTINUED TO DEVELOP, THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO DEVELOP.
YOU KNOW, IT BEGS THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE PROVIDE MORE, MANY THAN WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN THERE? THIS FELT LIKE A GOOD SPACE TO HELP APPEASE THOSE REQUESTS, TO ADD THOSE PRIVATE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
UM, SO JUST THE WAY THAT THIS LAYS THAT FELT LIKE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY.
UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS OUR ANGLE.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER KAPLAN? COMMISSIONER CHURCH COMMISSIONER RE HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DID YOU INCLUDE? IT'S NINE NINE TOTAL AND THEN THERE'S A FEW EXTRA FOR GOLF CARTS.
SO IF ANYONE REMAINING IN ROSEBROOK IS NOT INJURED FROM PICKLEBALL, YOU'LL NEED MORE SPACE IN WHAT THE OVERFLOW IS GONNA BE.
UM, I, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS, IS THIS GONNA BE RESTRICTED TO JUST ONE OR TWO SECTIONS ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED TO USE IT OR IS IT FOR THE WHOLE ROSEBROOK SOUTH? I BELIEVE THE INTENT IS FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE, UH, FENCING AROUND THIS AND THEN WE CAN HAVE ACCESS CONTROL LIKE WE DO TO OUR CLUBHOUSE AND OUR POOL.
SO WE CAN BE MONITORED WITH KEY FOBS AND HAVE SOME TIME RESTRAINTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS BUILT IN.
IS THERE LIGHTING ON HERE? NO LIGHTING.
AND IT'S TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS, IS THAT RIGHT? OR TWO TENNIS COURTS? TWO UP TO FOUR.
FOUR PLUS TWO, TWO DEDICATED PICKLEBALL.
ONE IS A TENNIS, BUT IT ALSO PICKLE STRIKE TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL PICKLEBALL AS WELL WITH A REMOVABLE NET.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? IS IT, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA PLAN FOR EACH SECTION NOW OR IS THIS GONNA BE FOR ALL THE ROSE BOOK'S? ALL FIVE ROSEBROOK SUBDIVISIONS? THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS AND TWO TENNIS COURTS.
THIS IS REALLY JUST MEANT TO SERVE WELL, ROSEBROOK MAINE, WHICH IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, AND THEN IT WILL BE AN AMENITY TO ROSEBROOK SOUTH.
UH, THE ADDITIONAL THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS ROSEBROOK EAST, AND WE'VE STILL GOT A WAYS TO GO THERE.
SO, UM, WE DON'T INTEND ON DUPLICATING ANOTHER PICKLEBALL COURT ON ROSEBROOK EAST IN THE FUTURE.
AND EACH ONE OF THOSE ROSE BROOKS EAST NORTHWEST, WHERE EACH ONE OF THEM IS GONNA HAVE ITS OWN HOA, IS THAT CORRECT? LIKE, GO AHEAD.
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I'M SORRY, LEMME START OVER.PCPS LAND FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE, UH, THERE'LL BE ONE HOA THAT WILL GOVERN ALL THREE OF THOSE ROSEBROOK, MAIN ROSEBROOK SOUTH AND ROSEBROOK EAST.
SO THESE WILL BE, THEY'RE SEPARATE APPROVALS, SEPARATE O SRDS, BUT THEY'RE GONNA COME IN UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF ONE HOA, SO THEY'LL BE PAYING DUES TO AND BEING MANAGED BY ONE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE SAW THE FIRST ONE.
YEAH, SO THERE'S A MAIN AMENITY AREA THAT HAS A CLUBHOUSE, A ADULT POOL, CHILDREN'S POOL, UH, OPEN LAWN AREA, AND A PAVILION AND A PLAYGROUND.
SO, UM, THE VARIANCE, MS. KORN, THE VARIANCE IS THAT, UM, A CONDITION IS THAT, IS THAT I DON'T HAVE THE WRITING IN FRONT OF ME 'CAUSE AND ON THE TABLET WE DON'T, WE'RE MISSING THAT PAGE.
SO, UH, ON THE TABLET, SO WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE WORDING ON THE VARIANCE FOR ARTICLE 5.1? MR. PETROSKI IS FLAGGING ME DOWN THAT HE IS GONNA HELP YOU OUT.
WELL, I MEAN THAT'S A SECTION IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, SO RIGHT.
DO I NEED, HOW, HOW DO WE NEED, I WE DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE, UM, OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO ACKNOWLEDGE.
HOW TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT BECAUSE, UM, OUR, UH, FOR SOME REASON IN THE IPAD IT JUST STARTS WITH THE STANDARD CONDITION.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
I MEAN, DO UH, CITY ATTORNEY KRISTEN CORN, DO THEY, DO THEY NEED TO, UH, SHE'S MAKE REFERENCE TO THE, UH, VARIANCE REQUEST YES.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SO THE MOTION HAS TO BE TO APPROVE THE REVISED PLAN SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION OF STAFF REPORT, INCLUDING A VARIANCE FOR ARTICLE 5.1? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND AGAIN, THAT CAN BE MADE IN THE ORIGINAL MOTION IF YOU WANNA DO IT THAT WAY.
YOU WANT ME OR AS AN AMENDMENT? YEAH, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AND YOU GUYS WILL.
SO WE NEED A MOTION TO A, A MOTION ON THE PRELIMINARY PANEL FOR ROSEBURG SOUTH SUBDIVISION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT.
INCLUDING A VARIANCE ON ARTICLE 5.1.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THIS PLAN? SO MOVED TO APPROVE OR DISAPP.
APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE? I DIDN'T WANNA, I DIDN'T WANNA PUT THE WORDS IN ANYBODY'S MOUTH.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER TUCCI? IS THERE ANY, OH, I'M SORRY.
BEFORE I, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS? OKAY.
OKAY, SO IT'S A FIRST FROM COMMISSIONER CHURCH.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER TUCCI.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE COMMITTEE? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, INCLUDING THE VARIANCE ON ARTICLE 5.1.
AFTER ALL THAT DISCUSSION,
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TO OUR FAVORITE PART OF THE MOVIE.UH, OF THE MOVIE OF THE MEETING.
THE REASON WHY WE ALL YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
SO FOR THE, THE MONTHLY SECURITY REPORT FOR APRIL, WE HAD, UH, AN INCREASE OF $728,091 AND 60 CENTS FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF $16,901,571 AND 73 CENTS.
AND I, WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE SECURITY REPORT AS PUBLISHED IN YOUR PACKET TO APPROVE.
MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER KAPLAN.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PIPPEN.
AND ALL OF OUR COMMITTEE PEOPLE ARE NOT HERE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED YET, PLEASE DO SO TOMORROW.
SEVEN EIGHT TO SEVEN P AT THE LIBRARY OR THE BRENT HAVEN CHURCH.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS? HEARING NONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.