* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. MAMO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF [00:00:01] I'LL BRINGING WILL MAMMOTH BACK. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE LIVE. [ Brentwood Planning Commission Briefing May 1, 2025 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Planning Commission to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. UM, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND JUST TWO ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS A REVISED FINAL PLAT FOR MALLORY PARK LOT 33 0 3. UM, THIS IS AN EXISTING, UM, THIS LOT HAS EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS ON IT. UM, THEY WERE BOTH BUILT ON ONE LOT. THEY HAVE SINCE DECIDED THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPLIT THE PROPERTY AND HAVE A BUILDING ON EACH LOT. UM, STAFF REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH SITE WOULD STAND ALONE AS FAR AS PARKING AND GREEN SPACE AND ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IT DOES. UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF EXCUSE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT, UH, FOR THE TWO PROPERTIES, JUST SO THEY CAN SHARE ACCESSES, UH, BACK AND FORTH AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THAT HAS TO BE RECORDED BEFORE, WE'LL LET THE, BEFORE WE'LL LET THE PLAT BE RECORDED, AND THEN WE WANT THEM TO CLEARLY SHOW ALL THE SETBACKS ON EACH LOT. IT DOES COMPLY, BUT WE WANT IT TO BE MORE CLEAR. AND THEN, UM, EACH LOT WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE ITS OWN SEWER SERVICE AND WATER METERS. AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE STAFF NOTES. SO, UM, THE USE IS GONNA, ARE THEY, ARE THEY OFFICE BUILDINGS OR ARE THEY, UH, OTHER USE? RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE OFFICE BUILDINGS TO REMAIN THAT WAY. YES. YES. SAME OWNER THOUGH, OR NO? WELL, I THINK CURRENTLY, UH, SAME OWNER, BUT WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY SUBDIVIDE, IT'LL BE TWO DIFFERENT OWNERS. SO THEY'RE GONNA SELL? YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WANTING TO JUST, I DON'T KNOW THE STORY, BUT IT APPEARS TO ME THAT ONE OF THE TENANTS IN THE OFFICE BUILDING WANTS TO BUY. OH, OKAY. AND SO THEY'RE MAKING THAT, SPLITTING IT. SO THAT CAN HAPPEN. THE, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS, UM, WE HAVE A LIMITED DURATION EVENT, UM, FOR BRENT FEST, WHICH INCLUDES A FOOD TRUCK RALLY. UM, THIS IS A CITY OF BRENTWOOD EVENT, AND UM, IT'S GONNA BE SATURDAY, JUNE 28TH. UM, IT STARTS AT 6:00 PM WITH FOOD TRUCKS, A BEER GARDEN, A KID ZONE, FOLLOWED BY DUELING PIANOS AND RUBIK'S GROOVE. HEY, THAT'S LAST YEAR'S IS IT? WE'LL FIX THAT. IT'S THE SAME . IT'S THE SAME. UM, THERE WILL BE 12 FOOD TRUCKS AT THE EVENT, AND WE HAVE SEVEN STANDARD REQUIREMENTS. SO WHAT HAPPENS? THERE'S A TYPO. YOU MAY WANNA CHANGE IT. LIMITED DURATION EVENT. YEAH. EVENT . SORRY, I SAW IT TOO. POWERPOINT IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. YOU MISSING FOR THE EDITING COMMISSION. THANK YOU. UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T APPROVE A CITY PROPERTY? NO, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ONE. . I DO IT WITHOUT US. I THINK THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD OVERRIDE IT. , UH, CONSENT ITEM THREE, ANOTHER LIMITED DURATION EVENT. FOOD TRUCK RALLY. RED, WHITE, AND BOOM. CROCKETT CLARK. THIS IS OUR 4TH OF JULY EVENT. UM, TRUCKS AVAILABLE FROM 6:00 PM MUSIC AT 7:00 PM AND FIREWORKS STARTING AT NINE. JUST STANDARD REQUIREMENTS AGAIN. CITY EVENT SIX. THE MAP. EXCUSE ME. THE MAP STILL SAYS THAT ONE SAYS 2024. YEAH, I'LL HAVE TO GET NEW ONES FROM KEISHA. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE, WE'LL, WE'LL GET IT. THAT'S RIGHT. , THE DATES. PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT. THE DATE'S THE SAME ON THAT ONE. CONSENT ITEM FOUR. WE HAVE A MINOR SITE PLAN REQUEST FOR AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING AT 53 0 1 MARYLAND WAY. THERE'S THE LOCATION THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PAINT THE BRICK WHITE. UM, SO CBRE REQUEST APPROVAL TO PAINT THE BRICK EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. THE PRIMARY COLOR WILL BE WHITE WITH SHADES OF GRAY AND BLACK ACCENTS. THERE ARE ALSO SOME MINOR, UM, SIGNAGE, UH, MONUMENT SIGN, UH, REVISION, WHICH COMPLIES WITH THE CITY CODE. UM, WE HAVE 12 STANDARD REQUIREMENTS AND ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. SUBJECT TO THE STAFF NOTES. CONSENT ITEM FIVE. WE HAVE A FINAL PLAT PROPOSAL FOR RAINTREE FOREST SECTION SEVEN AND EIGHT. THERE'S THE LOCATION. UM, THERE'S A COPY OF THE PLAT. UM, YEAH, THE PLAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN. IT'S A TOTAL OF 20 LOTS, [00:05:01] FIVE OPEN SPACE TRACKS ON 21.14 ACRES. WE HAVE 14 STANDARD REQUIREMENTS AND ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE STAFF NOTES. CAN YOU, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT REAL QUICK? SURE. OKAY. SO THE GRAY DOTTED LINE DOESN'T, ISN'T, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WASN'T THE DOTTED I, THE BIG GRAY LINE. SO THAT'S JUST FOR THE PAGES, RIGHT? YES. YEAH, THIS IS THE, YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SO IT IS NOT LIKE THEY'RE SHARING THAT GREEN SPACE WITH ANOTHER PART OF THE PLAN? NO. OKAY. NO, THAT'S JUST A PAGE BREAK. UM, CONSENT ITEM SIX. UM, WE HAVE A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR EASTMAN'S PRESERVE SUBDIVISION. THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT BESIDE THE TENNESSEE BAPTIST CHILDREN'S HOME, WHICH WAS ONCE PART OF TENNESSEE BAPTIST CHILDREN'S HOME, UM, THERE ON FRANKLIN ROAD. THIS PROPOSAL IS TO REVISE THE FENCING AROUND THE EXISTING, WELL, AROUND THE CEMETERY. SO, UH, HERE'S THE LOCATION OF THE CEMETERY. ORIGINALLY THE FENCING WAS, I'M TRYING, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. SO YOU HAD FENCING AROUND THE ENTIRE AREA OF THE CEMETERY. OKAY. AND THAT FENCING WAS GONNA BE THIS TWO BOARD, TWO BOARD BLACK FENCING. SO THEY'RE WANTING TO REVISE THAT PROPOSAL NOW TO MAKE IT MORE OF A, JUST A DEFINED SPACE. THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY DON'T WANT TO FENCE THE ENTIRE, ENCOMPASS THE ENTIRE AREA OF THE CEMETERY. THEY WANT TO DEFINE THE SPACE AND MAKE IT MORE OPEN AND MORE INVITING. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING LANDSCAPING AT THE CORNERS. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A, YOU'VE GOT A DISTINCT ENTRANCE AREA WITH, UH, AND MY POINTER JUST DIED. , IT JUST DIED. SO THE RED AREAS ARE THE, UH, THE AREAS THAT WILL HAVE FENCING. OKAY. SO THEY, AND THERE'S ONLY TWO HEADSTONES IN THE CEMETERY? YEAH, THERE ARE SOME OTHER DEPRESSIONS, BUT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A GRASS AREA WITH TWO HEADSTONES, SO THEY WANTED TO OPEN IT UP. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROPOSAL. SO IT'S, THE ENVELOPE HASN'T CHANGED. IT'S JUST THE, THE STRUCTURE AROUND IT, HOW IT'S BEING DEFINED. THEY'RE NOT GONNA FENCE THE ENTIRE AREA OF THE CEMETERY. SO THEY'RE GONNA DEFINE IT THOUGH, RIGHT? RIGHT. THEY'RE GONNA DEFINE IT WITH LANDSCAPING AND PARTIAL SECTIONS OF FENCING. AND PREVIOUSLY IT'S JUST BEEN TWO HEADSTONE, THEN MIDDLE OF THE FIELD. ALRIGHT, THANKS. SO WILL THE, EXCUSE ME, WILL EACH OF THOSE, UH, RED AREAS THERE BE LIKE THIS WITH THE TWO POSTS ON EACH, UH, COLUMNS ON EACH END? SO THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS RIGHT HERE WILL BE THE ENTRANCE. AND THESE RED AREAS HERE WILL BE LIKE BLACK POST, BLACK WOODEN POST WITH, UH, SLATS. OKAY. THEY WON'T HAVE THE, UH, THEY WON'T HAVE, THEY WON'T HAVE THE STONE COLUMNS. OKAY. JUST, JUST THE ENTRANCE HERE. HOW BIG IS THAT TOTAL AREA? OH, I DON'T, I AM NOT SURE HOW BIG THE TOTAL AREA IS. UM, WHICH AS BIG AS A LOT. YEAH. I MEAN YOU CAN SEE IT HERE. YEAH. AS COMPARED FOR TWO, IT'S AS LARGE AS A LOT. YEAH. NO. IS THAT COUNT, IS THAT PART OF THEIR GREEN SPACE? IT IS PART OF THEIR GREEN SPACE, YES. DO WE HAVE ANY CEMETERY REGULATIONS OR ANYTHING THAT FOR THESE OLDER CEMETERIES? I MEAN, WE, WE, WE PROTECT THEM. RIGHT? WE REQUIRE THEM TO BE PROTECTED AND NOT ENCROACHED UPON. OKAY. BUT YEAH. AND THEN THE HISTORIC COMMISSION, THEY HAVE A LIST OF THEM. DOES THIS QUALIFY AS BEING PROTECTED? IT'S A LOT MORE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. HUH? IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN IT IS. IT'S WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW. PROTECTED MEANS WE DON'T ALLOW DEVELOPMENT IN THEM. WE'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW THEM TO PUT IMPROVEMENTS INSIDE THE CEMETERY OR DIS DISTURB THE AREA. SO WHAT ARE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CEMETERY THEN? I DON'T SEE ANY BOUNDARIES ANYWHERE. THE BOUNDARIES ARE DEFINED WITH LANDSCAPING AND PARTIAL FENCING. THEY'RE IDENTIFYING THE AREA HERE VISUALLY. THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL HAD A FENCE AROUND THE ENTIRE THING. BUT THEY, THEY WANT TO OPEN IT UP. THEY JUST WANT IT TO BE MORE INVITING. THEY WANT PEOPLE TO GO LOOK AT THE HEADSTONES. THEY DON'T WANNA FEEL LIKE THEY GOTTA STAY OUT OR AWAY. THAT'S, [00:10:02] THAT'S THE PROPOSAL. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST THERE AND THEY OPEN RIGHT THERE. YEAH. RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO, I MEAN, YOU APPROVED A FENCE AROUND, AROUND THE CEMETERY WITH THE ORIGINAL JOEL BEFORE THEY STARTED MAKING IT EASEMENTS PRESERVE. THERE WAS JUST, THERE'S JUST A MARKER THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY ANY, LIKE, I DON'T THINK THERE HAS BEEN A STANDARD PROCESS. LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOES HAVE A FENCE AROUND IT, BUT I'VE KNOWN MY OLD NEIGHBORHOOD HAD LIKE, JUST THE, THE ORIGINAL KIND OF CRUMBLED STONE WALL TREES. IT'S IN THE WOODS. LIKE IT'S NOT DEFINED, YOU KNOW, WITH A FENCE. SO IT'S LIKE, I'M NOT SURE THERE IS A, A STANDARD FOR THESE. I MEAN, HISTORICALLY WE'VE RE, FOR NEW SUBDIVISIONS, WE'VE REQUIRED THE CEMETERIES TO BE FENCED. OKAY. BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CODE THAT SAYS IT HAS TO BE. I THINK PRI THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THE FENCING WAS TO IDENTIFY THE LOCATION AND, AND PROTECTED. PROTECTED. RIGHT. BUT HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF EXISTING. ARE THERE MORE, UM, ARE THERE MORE BURIAL SITES IN THERE THAN THE TWO WE HAVE STONES FOR? THERE ARE. OH, THOSE ARE ALL SITES. OKAY. YEAH. SO THIS IS THE, THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE, BUT ONLY TWO HEADSTONES. TODD, I WONDER IF, I MEAN, SHOULD WE TAKE THIS OFF CONSENT JUST IN CASE ANYBODY HAS, ANYBODY WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT? I MEAN, IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT. SURE. RIGHT. I AGREE. YEAH. I, IF NOBODY HAS ANY OBJECTIONS, I THINK THAT'S FINE. BUT LET'S GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO SAY SOMETHING IF THEY WANT. YEAH, I AGREE. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, WE CAN MOVE THAT TO REGULAR. HAVE YOU HEARD FROM ANY FAMILY OR DO WE KNOW ANY FAMILY AS THE HISTORIC COMMISSION? I'M NOT AWARE. I CAN, I CAN REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT. OKAY. AND SEE IF THEY'RE AWARE OF PRESTON. YOU WANNA TALK TO SOMEONE ON THE HISTORIC COMMISSION AND SEE? YEAH, I KNOW KATHY AND SAM JOHNSON. SO THAT'S, I KNOW SHE'S KIND OF TRAINED SOMEONE NEW, BUT KATHY MIGHT KNOW. YEAH. YEAH. I'LL, I'LL TALK TO THEM. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALRIGHT. GOOD DEAL. MOVING ON. UM, CONSENT ITEM SEVEN. WE HAVE A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR THE ROSEBROOK SUBDIVISION. THIS IS ROSEBROOK, MAINE. SO THIS PROPOSAL IS TO ADD A FOUR FOOT CONCRETE SIDEWALK CONNECTING TO THE EIGHT FOOT ASPHALT TRAIL IN THE AMENITY AREA. IT'S THE LITTLE RED AREA THERE. WE'VE GOT A BLOW UP RIGHT HERE. SO IT'S A VERY MINOR CHANGE TO THE AMENITY AREA. THE ADDITION OF A FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK SECTION. GOLLY. WE CAN SEE IT. WE'RE GOOD THERE. YEAH. IS THERE CURRENTLY ANY SIDEWALK OR ANYTHING PROPOSED FOR THERE? OR THIS IS COMPLETELY NEW. THAT'S A NEW SECTION THERE. UM, THERE'S ANOTHER CHANGE, UM, A CHANGE TO THE ENTRANCE FEATURES AT THE SPLIT LOG ROAD ENTRANCE. UM, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL ENTRANCE FEATURES FOR SPLIT LOG ROAD ENTRANCE. UM, YOU HAD THIS TOWER FEATURE. UM, THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT. THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT ANY LONGER. REASON BEING, I MEAN, WHEN SPLIT SPLIT LOG GETS RELOCATED, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A PRIMARY ENTRANCE FOR THEM. SO I PUT THE MONEY THERE. RIGHT. SO YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT A LITTLE LESS FANCY THERE AT THAT ENTRANCE. SO THE SIDEWALK, IT GOES FROM THE ASPHALT, BUT THEN DOES IT CONNECT TO A, THE PARKING LOT LIKE IT THE OTHER SIDE? IS IT, IT, IT CONNECTS HERE TO THIS TRAIL AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE ENGINEERING HELP ME OUT, BUT CONNECT. SO IT, THERE'S A LITTLE, UH, LIKE A LITTLE, UH, PAVILION OPEN PERGOLA. OKAY. THE REASON FOR THAT CONNECTION IS TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE, UH, A DA COMPLIANT, UM, ACCESS TO THE GREENWAY. SO THAT WAS THE PERFECT, THAT WAS THE WHOLE INTENT OF THIS. THANK YOU ALL. MOVING ON, CONSENT ITEM EIGHT. WE HAVE A REVISED SITE PLAN FOR SPLIT LOG MIDDLE SCHOOL. THIS IS PROPOSED BEHIND JORDAN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. OH, SO THEY'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND BUILD THAT. YEAH. SO I GOT AN UPDATE. SO, UM, SO THIS, THIS UH, SPLIT LOG MIDDLE CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS, UM, IN 22 AND GOT APPROVAL AND THEY HAVEN'T MOVED ON IT AND THEIR APPROVAL'S GETTING READY TO EXPIRE. SO WE HAD TO GET THEM BACK IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING READY TO TO GO, [00:15:01] THEY'RE GETTING READY TO START. UM, THE APPLICANT TELLS ME THIS MORNING THAT, OR TOLD ME THIS MORNING THAT THEY'RE GONNA START PUTTING IT OUT FOR BID AND I BELIEVE IN JULY AND HOPING TO START IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. SCHOOL STARTS . YEAH. UM, ALWAYS THE BEST TIME TO START MOVING HEAVY EQUIPMENT. . I THINK WE NEED TO PUT 'EM ON A REGULAR AGENDA 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY'VE GOT THE MONEY TO EVEN START UP A BRAND NEW SCHOOL GIVE, WHY WOULD, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES. ISSUES GOING ON. THEY'RE OUTTA MONEY. BUT WHY WOULD WE PUT THAT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA? HUH? WHY IS THAT GOING ON? REGULAR AGENDA? WELL, I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY GOT PLANNED. RIGHT NOW I'M HEARING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO BRENTWOOD MIDDLE. THEY FORECASTED $30 MILLION THAT CAME OUT OVER 50. BOARD OF EDUCATION DOESN'T HAVE MUCH MONEY AS FAR AS WILLIAMSON COUNTY GOES. I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT WHAT DO THEY REALLY HAVE PLANNED. OKAY. LET'S MOVE IT. IF YOU WANNA HAVE A DISCUSSION, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. WE CAN MOVE IT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE IT TO REGULAR. UM, SO THERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER CHANGES SINCE THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL. ONE, THEY'RE GONNA BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OUR STORMWATER, OUR NEW STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS. MM-HMM . UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING TWO, UH, ROOF MATERIALS. UM, SO THEY WOULD LIKE THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPRO APPROVE BOTH OPTIONS. AND THE OPTIONS ARE GONNA DEPEND ON FUNDING. SO ONE OPTION WOULD BE A SHINGLE ROOF, AND THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE STANDING SEAM METAL. WHAT'S ON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? DO YOU KNOW? I'M NOT SURE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S ON? THINK IT'S, IS IT METAL? ISN'T IT METAL? I THINK IT'S GOT METAL. IT'S STANDING SEA. IT'S METAL. I THINK IT'S STANDING SEAM METAL. I CAN CHECK IT. I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S STANDING BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT HAD A BLUISH. DOESN'T HAVE LIKE A BLUISH ROOF. I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I WANT THE OPTION FOR SHINGLE. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO. SO HOPE MAYBE DURING THE DISCUSSION WILL COME UP. ALL RIGHT. SO DID YOU ASK THEM TO BRING THE LAYOUT TO AS TO WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THE SCHOOL? WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THE SCHOOL? YEAH. THE MIDDLE. WE'VE GOT THE LAYOUT. IT'S BEHIND JORDAN. IT'S BEHIND JORDAN. RIGHT. BUT THEY, THEY ALSO HAD A TRAFFIC ISSUE AT ONE TIME THAT THEY WERE GONNA TRY TO ADDRESS. HERE'S, HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. I THINK THEY'VE UPDATE, THEY'VE DONE SOME SITE UPDATES AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THAT. I DON'T IT IN ONLINE. THERE SHOULD BE A DOCUMENT THAT DESCRIBES THE CHANGES THAT THEY MADE. THE CHANGES IN MADE. OKAY. AND I BELIEVE ONE OF THOSE IS, UM, CIRCULATION. AND THAT'S WHAT THE AGENDA. YES. WELL, SINCE IT WILL NOW BE ON REGULAR OH YEAH. CHANGES FROM PREVIOUS, THERE WILL BE A BRIEF. YEAH, IT'S LIKE A PRESENTATION BY THE, IT'S LIKE A COMPARISON AND ONE OF THE ATTACHMENTS. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL PUT IT, WE CAN PUT IT IN THE POWERPOINT AS WELL. CONSENT ITEM EIGHT. WE HAVE A MINOR SITE PLAN, UH, REVISION EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING ONE 11 WEST PARK, WHERE OUR WESTWOOD PLACE. UM, HERE'S THE LOCATION. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES, UM, A LITTLE ENTRANCE CANOPY AREA, SOME BRICK PAVERS. THERE I AM GRABBING THE POINTER. THAT DOESN'T WORK AGAIN. UH, AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO, HERE'S THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. SO THEY'RE WANTING TO PAINT. THANK YOU. . THEY'RE WANTING TO, UH, PAINT THE ENTRANCE AREA TO THE BUILDING BLACK. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. UM, WHEN, WHEN COMPLETE. SO, SO OUR OFFICE BUILDINGS, MARYLAND FARM WAY DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A STANDARD LOOK LIKE TO ME. WHEN I THINK OF BRENTWOOD, I THINK OF RED BRICK. IT'S ONLY SO TALL. LIKE ALL OUR BUILDINGS KIND OF. BUT NOW I'M SEEING, LIKE WE DON'T, THAT'S NOT A STANDARD OR A, UM, WHAT YOU CALL IT. 'CAUSE MOST WERE BUILT IN THE SAME ERA, THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES, WHICH IS WHEN RED BRICK WAS. BUT ALL OF THE BUILDINGS AROUND THERE, LIKE EVERYTHING BEHIND IT, THE, UH, HARPETH COMMONS ALL GOT PAINTED. SOME SHADE OF GRAY AND WHITE IN THE LAST COUPLE BEEN PAINTED GRAY. SO THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO UPDATE. SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO STANDARD REQUIREMENT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT STIPULATES COLOR? NO, IT'S UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT, IT IS ONLY THAT C FOUR AREA WHERE WE HAD THE KELLER PALETTE FOR THE, FOR THE BUILDINGS. LIKE A LONG, UH, FRANKLIN ROAD. YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN THE CUPCAKE BUILDING WANTED TO BE PINK UP. BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S NO COLOR PALETTE FOR MARYLAND FARMS. WELL, NO, BUT THE, THE SECTION OF CODE SAYS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE ABILITY OR AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE MATERIALS AND COLORS AND THAT IT, THEY NEED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE CODE SAYS. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING AND I'M THINKING THE SAME [00:20:01] THING. I MEAN, YOU GO TO THESE NICER, THESE NICE COMMUNITIES IN, IN DIFFERENT AREAS STATES, AND THEY, THEY'RE ALL UNIFORM. SO YOU MAKE IT ALL UNIFORM BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE BUILDINGS. BUT TO GO OVER THE TOP OF THEM AND SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, OH, I KNOW WE JUST PAINTED SIX BUILDINGS RIGHT AROUND YOU. UM, ALL DIFFERENT SHADES OF WHATEVER. AND THIS BUILDING'S THIS. NOW WE'RE GONNA COME OUT WITH A STANDARD THAT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE US A YEAR. IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE CITY COMMISSION THING. PLANNING COMMISSION JUST SAID PLANNING COMMISSION. HAS THE, WOULD WE BE THE ONES MAKING THE STANDARDS OR WOULD THE CITY COMMISSION MAKE THE STANDARDS WELL, UM, TO COME OVER AND RETROFIT MARYLAND FARMS WITH BUILDING STANDARDS? NO, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A, A PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENT TO, TO MANDATE SPECIFIC COLORS OR MATERIALS. YEAH. IT JUST GIVES THE PLANNING COMMISSION, LIKE CASE BY CASE. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DETERMINE THAT SOMETHING IS COMPATIBLE AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT. BUT OUR HISTORY IS SHOWN, WE'RE PRETTY LAX. AND SO WE'D BE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR A LAWSUIT FOR THE FIRST ONE TO GO, HEY, 20 YEARS OF KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING GOOD TASTE AND THIS TASTE IS FINE, BUT, UH, WE JUST DECIDED TO GET STRICTER TODAY. IT'S MY TAKE. SO IS THERE A, DOES THE CITY, I GUESS MY PROBLEM WITH PAINTED BRICK IS UPKEEP. SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE APPROVED SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, SOME OFF VIRGINIA WAY AND THE BACK AREA, THE, UH, BUILDINGS JUST NORTH OF THIS ONE ARE WHITE, YOU KNOW, ARE ALREADY PAINTED WHITE. SO IS THERE, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS DOWN THE LINE WHEN THE PAINT IS FLAKING AND WHATEVER, DO WE HAVE ANY, DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY UPKEEP AUTHORITY OR, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME PROPERTY MAINTENANCE STANDARDS, UM, THAT THE CODES DEPARTMENT ENFORCES. IT'S PRIMARILY FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT COULD APPLY TO COMMERCIAL AS WELL. I'M NOT SURE. I CAN CHECK. OKAY. IT'S WORTH A DISCUSSION. YOU WHAT I THINK IT'S WORTH A DISCUSSION JUST TO, TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR CITY, HOW WE WANT OUR CITY TO LOOK. I, I AGREE. AND I, AND I GET YEAH. POINT THAT YOU DON'T WANNA RETROFIT. LIKE, I AGREE THAT IT'S WORTH A DISCUSSION. I JUST DON'T AGREE THAT IT'S WORTH A DISCUSSION BY TRYING TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF SOMEBODY BECAUSE THAT'S, THE LAWSUIT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. NOW, DO WE NEED A GREATER DISCUSSION ON STANDARDS IN MARYLAND FARMS? OH, A HUNDRED PERCENT. THAT'D BE GREAT. SEPARATE OUT THE AGENDA ITEM TO HAVE. BUT IF WE TRY TO, HEY, WE'RE GONNA MAKE YOU THE EXAMPLE AND NOW WE'RE GONNA COME, WELL, THAT'S LAWSUIT WAITING TO HAPPEN. BUT IF WE SAY, OKAY, WE, WE SEE THIS COULD BE A PROBLEM, LET'S SIT DOWN AND HAVE A GENERAL DISCUSSION AND THEN CREATE STANDARDS THAT THEN WE CREATE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY INFRINGING INCIDENT ON CALLED MAY 1ST MAKING UPDATES. WE NOW HAVE NEW STANDARDS. RIGHT. THEN IN A YEAR WHEN THIS HAPPENS, WE GO, OH, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR NEW STANDARDS. BUT THIS COULD BE THE CATALYST COURT. NO, I AGREE WITH YOU THERE. NO, I AGREE. YOU'VE GOT ONE THAT'S, YOU'VE GOT ONE THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S ASKED FOR APPROVAL AGAINST A NON-EXISTENT STANDARD THAT WE WOULD, WE WERE, WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE TRYING TO STUFF IN THERE, WE'RE TRYING TO APPLY A STANDARD THAT WE DON'T HAVE ON IN WRITING. RIGHT. IN DOCUMENTATION. RIGHT. SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S ON THERE. HOW GOING FORWARD CAN WE PRESENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION A SET OF STANDARDS FOR STANDARD STANDARDIZATION OF THE COLORS OF THE EXISTING AND CONTINUING BUILDING OF BUILDINGS IN THE MARYLAND FORMS AREA? HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I MEAN, IS IT A REQUEST TO YOU GUYS? UH, YOU, YOU MAY HAVE TO SET UP LIKE AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS SPECIFIC DESIGN STANDARDS AND COLORS. UM, BUT ISN'T THAT US? I MEAN, ARE WE ACTING AS THAT IF WE HAVE A STANDARD, THEN WE HAVE TO HOLD THEM TO THAT STANDARD? HOW DO YOU GET TO THE STANDARD SO THAT WHEN THE STANDARD IS, IS WHEN A REQUEST IS MADE BY A DEVELOPER, IT COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND 10 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THERE'S NONE OF US ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR WHATEVER, THE COMMISSION HAS A PIECE OF DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THIS IS THE STANDARD. HOW DO YOU GET THAT STANDARD SET? RIGHT? WELL, HISTORICALLY, THE, THE ONLY BRENTWOOD HAS HAD THE ONE SECTION IN THE CODE THAT GIVES THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE COLOR AND THE MATERIALS. AND THE BASIS FOR THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO IT'S VERY BROAD. OKAY. SO YOU REMEMBER, WE AS A PLANNING COMMISSION COME OVER AND KIND OF DEFINE WHAT OUR STANDARD IS. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO ESTABLISH SPECIFIC STANDARDS, UM, FOR CERTAIN AREAS, I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE A LITTLE RESEARCH. UM, WHAT ARE OTHER, WHAT ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DOING? [00:25:01] YOU KNOW, DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE APPROVED, UM, I THINK IT'S IVY CAKES. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT HOW PINK THE PINK WAS GONNA BE. RIGHT. BUT, BUT WE HAD GOOD DISCUSSION AND WE ENDED UP WITH A PALOR PINK AND, AND SHE NEVER, I DON'T THINK THEY EVER PROPOSED REAL, BUT WE DID AT THAT POINT SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, WE WANT TO KNOW HOW PINK THE PINK IS. NOW THAT IS, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IVY CAKE, THAT'S ZONE C FOUR. YEAH. YEAH. SO, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE C FOUR C FOUR. RIGHT. SO HOW DID THOSE GET WELL, BUT THOSE WERE CREATED WHEN C FOUR WAS CREATED, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. AND WAS THAT AN ARCHITECTURAL THING OR WAS THAT JUST CITY COMMISSION? OR DID STAFF HELP DESIGN THE STANDARDS FOR COLORS AND MATERIALS? OR WHERE DID, WHAT WAS THE ORIGIN OF THAT? WELL, AS I RECALL, I THINK WE HAD A CONSULTANT FIRM HELP US HELP GUIDE US IN THE DRAFTING OF THE C FOUR ORDINANCE AND THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ACCOMPANY THE ORDINANCE AND WHICH WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. SO THEN CAN WE REACH OUT AND DO FOR, IS IT C TWO WHERE WE ARE MARYLAND FARMS? IS IT C ONE, C TWO? IS THAT THE MARI MOST OF MARYLAND FARMS COULD WE TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME STANDARDS FOR? WELL, WE, I THINK THAT, UM, THAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY HAVE A DEEPER CON UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. BUT I, I THINK STAFF WOULD NEED A LITTLE TIME. LET US, OH NO, WE'RE NOT WANTING TO DO IT, BUT I'M JUST ASKING THE PROCESS. OH, I WANT THIS DONE BY LINDA. I, YEAH. I WOULD LIKE PROCESS. YOU GOT TILL TWO. IT'S OKAY. STRETCH OUT. WE GOT MONDAY, WE HAD A MEETING. RIGHT. SO BASED ON YOUR DEF, BASED ON YOUR DEFINITION OF WHAT THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION CAN DO, DO PLANNING, CAN, WE CAN REJECT THAT PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW? THAT COLOR? WELL, I MEAN, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE. OKAY. SO IF WE DETERMINE THAT COLLECTIVELY AS A GROUP, WE COULD REJECT THAT PROPOSAL BASED ON THE GUIDELINES. IT'S YOU JUST READ TO US. YEAH, SURE. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE CODE SAYS. OKAY. YEP. BUT THEN THEY WOULD COME OVER THE TOP WITH ALL OF THE OTHER BLACK BUILDINGS AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF WE'VE APPROVED OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS AND IT'D BE A LAWSUIT AND KRISTEN CORN WOULD NOT BE HAPPY TO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR VISION IS, WHAT OUR STANDARDS WOULD BE, AND DEFINE 'EM A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO DO THIS OR THAT IT FITS WITH OUR LOOK THAT WE WANT AS A CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT, SO IS THAT A REQUEST TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO APPROVE A DESIGN? 'CAUSE THE LAST TIME WE HAD A DESIGN, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL GROUP COME IN. OH, THE C FOUR? YEAH. FOR C FOUR FOR CAN WE DO IT FOR C ONE AND C TWO? OH, THIS IS WHAT I'D RECOMMEND. LET LET STAFF MEET WITH, UM, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY. LET US HAVE SOME INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE REQUEST. OKAY. LET'S LOOK AT SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES, SEE HOW THEY HANDLE IT, AND THEN WE CAN RECONVENE AND, AND HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. OKAY. JUST, I THINK FOR EVERYBODY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CREATE AN IDENTITY THAT STATES THE IDENTITY OF THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD AND, AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YEAH. THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL TASTE. I, I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE THE ALL WHITE SUBDIVISIONS AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT ALL THE MARYLAND FARMS BUILDINGS TO BE RIGHT. ALL WHITE AND LOOK LIKE A STATE PRISON GOING DOWN MARYLAND WAY. SO THAT'S JUST A PERSONAL ISSUE. BUT I WOULD SAY WE KIND OF ALSO DEFINED IT TOO WITH LIKE WHAT TREES ARE RECOMMENDED. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU CAN SELECT FROM THESE TREES FROM THE TREE BOARD FOR YOUR LANDSCAPING. SO LIKE, WE LIKE TREES IN OUR CITY AND WE WANNA KEEP THAT. SO IF SOMEONE CAME IN AND DIDN'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S A LOOK HERE. YEAH. AND I THINK WE NEED TO DEFINE HOW IT IS GOING FORWARD. ALRIGHT. FAIR ENOUGH. GOOD DEAL. ALRIGHT, MOVING ON. UM, DON'T DO IT. WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THAT POINTER BACK. . I'M BUY MY BATTERY. YEAH, LET'S A RECHARGEABLE ONE. ALRIGHT, REGULAR AGENDA FINALLY. UM, REGULAR AGENDA ITEM ONE, PARADE OF HOMES, ROSEBROOK SUBDIVISION SECTION THREE. THERE'S THE PROPOSED LAYOUT, UH, CPS LAND REQUEST APPROVAL OF A PARADE OF HOMES, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 4TH THROUGH THE 19TH OF THIS YEAR. UM, THEY'RE EXPECTING APPROXIMATELY 20,000 PEOPLE, UH, OVER A TWO WEEK PERIOD. WOW. AND UM, THE EXISTING CONSTRUCTION ROAD, GOLLY. IS THAT, THIS IT HERE JASON? YES. YES, THAT'S IT. YES. THE EXISTING CONSTRUCTION ROAD WILL BE USED FOR, UH, PARKING HERE. THIS LOCATION. UM, [00:30:02] WE HAVE SEVEN STANDARD REQUIREMENTS AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE STAFF NOTES. WHERE DID THEY GET THAT NUMBER? I, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE, HOW MANY CAN DID THE LAST ONE HAD SEVERAL GRADES. SO I THINK THEY'VE JUST DONE AN AVERAGE OF WHAT THEY TYPICALLY DRAW. YOU MEAN THE ATTENDANCE? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THEY'VE DONE WHAT TWO OR THREE PARADE OF HOMES AND A CPS HAS. SO THEY MUST HAVE IS USUALLY BENEFIT A CHARITY OF SOME SORT? I HAVE NO IDEA. THEY USED TO, THAT'S ROUGHLY A HUNDRED. THEY USED TO DO THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY STILL DO. SO 140 A DAY, NOT 140 A DAY OVER. IF IT'S FULL 14 DAYS, IT'S TWO WEEKS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . MM-HMM . YEAH. IS THERE, I THINK THERE'S A CONDITION THAT ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW AND, AND IT'S 10 AN HOUR. DO THEY, DO THEY NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT KIND OF STUFF? 'CAUSE THAT'S A, YEAH, THAT'S A TIGHT AREA RIGHT THROUGH THERE. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S TYPICAL. OKAY. I MEAN, WE'LL LOOK AT ALL THAT. UM, UM, SO IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO STAY ON A REGULAR OR WOULD YOU WANT TO MOVE THIS TO CONSENT? UM, I'M FINE WITH CONSENT. I'M FINE WITH WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE TOP PARADE OF HOMES PARKING? THAT'S ONE THAT HAD IN 20, WHAT'S THE ORIGINAL ONE? I CAN'T READ THE SMALL PRINT. SO IT WAS STILL ON THERE. THAT'S WHY I WONDERED WHY THEY WERE MOVING TO I'M GO WITH MOVING IT OUTTA EYES, MOVE IT TO CONSENT, STUFF LIKE THAT. ALRIGHT, ALL. AND FINALLY, SECOND ITEM ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. WE HAVE 30 MINUTES. STILL GOT 30 MINUTES. YEAH. WAIT 30 MINUTES. UM, WE HAVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL FOR ROSEBROOK SOUTH SUBDIVISION. UM, SO ROSEBROOK SOUTH, IF YOU RECALL, YOU RECENTLY APPROVED A, A REZONING, A REVISED OSRD PLAN THAT THAT TOOK, UM, THESE LARGER LOTS. THERE WERE SOME LARGER LOTS THAT, THERE WAS SOME AREA THEY THOUGHT WAS A WETLAND AND YEAH, IT WAS 0.41 ACRES. AND SO THEY TOOK THAT FROM THE OSRD PORTION AND ADDED IT TO THESE RR ONE ZONE PROPERTIES. UM, AND THAT REQUIRED A REVISED OSRD PLAN. UM, SO THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR ROSEBROOK SOUTH. UM, IT MATCHES THAT OSRD PLAN LAYOUT. UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CHANGES. ONE BEING, UM, THE FIRST SECTION OF THE SUBDIVISION OF THIS ROSEBROOK SOUTH, THEY WANT TO BE THIS OPEN SPACE TRACK UP HERE. AND WITHIN THIS OPEN SPACE TRACK, THEY ARE WANTING TO CONSTRUCT SOME GOY PICKLEBALL COURTS, TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS HERE, A TENNIS COURT THAT CAN ALSO BE USED AS TWO ADDITIONAL PICKLEBALL COURTS, SOME PARKING HERE. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE IMPROVEMENT PROPOSED WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE, THAT OPEN SPACE AREA. NOW THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH SOME MORE DETAILED PLANS, UH, SHOWING THIS, SHOWING MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE OPEN SPACE. UM, BUT THIS OPEN SPACE AREA IS PROPOSED TO BE ITS OWN SECTION. AND SO THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE, UM, BECAUSE FINAL PLATS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE 10 OR MORE LOTS PER SECTION. UM, BUT THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE. SO SECTION ONE WOULD ONLY HAVE THIS OPEN SPACE TRACT, NOT, NOT ANY OTHER LOTS. NOW STAFF IS OKAY WITH IT, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IT SO THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THIS BUILT BEFORE THE REST OF THE SUBDIVISIONS DEVELOPED SO THEIR CURRENT RESIDENTS IN ROSEBROOK CAN UTILIZE THIS AREA. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PURPOSE. UM, AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE, SO THE ENTRANCE THAT THAT'S SHOWING THERE, THAT'S AN INTERNAL ENTRANCE. IT IS. THAT'S NOT, YEAH, THIS IS, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S SOUTHWEST. NO, THE, THE, THE ONLY CONNECTION TO THAT AREA ON SPLIT LOG IS AT THE SOUTH, VERY SOUTH. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. OKAY. YES. SO THAT'S NOT GONNA BE UP AGAINST ANY ROAD OR TECHNICALLY COULD THEY ADD THIS TO THE ORIGINAL ROSEBROOK, CUT IT OUT, AND THEN JUST HAVE IT AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL ONE? NOT THAT'S GONNA BE PAIN IN THE NECK? NO, TECHNICALLY THEY CAN'T BECAUSE THEY KIND OF STANDALONE. THEY'RE DIFFERENT. WE LOOKED AT THAT. YEAH. UM, BUT THEY JUST WANTED TO DO THIS FOR THE CURRENT NEIGHBORS EARLY VERSUS HAVING TO WAIT TO YEAH, I MEAN WE, WE LOOKED AT THAT, WE TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER. WE, WE WERE AWARE OF THIS PROPOSAL AND WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK TIMING AND SECTIONS AND THIS, THIS WAS THE BEST SOLUTION TO JUST MAKE IT SECTION ONE OF ROSEBROOK SOUTH AND LET IT BE ITS OWN SECTION, THIS OPEN SPACE TRACK. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO PUTTING [00:35:01] DOWN THE ASPHALT FOR THE TENNIS COURT, WHATEVER THEY, WHATEVER THE MATERIAL IS FOR THE TENNIS COURTS AND THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, THAT DOESN'T ELIMINATE OPEN SPACE, IS THAT CONSIDERED OPEN SPACE? THE THE TRACK ITSELF IS THE OPEN SPACE BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE IMPROVEMENTS OR IMPERVIOUS AREAS, IT DOESN'T DEDUCT FROM THE OPEN SPACE. SO, SO WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS LIKE A SWIMMING POOL AT YEAH, SOME OTHER, ALL THE AMENITIES ARE IN OPEN SPACE. THEY ARE? OKAY. YEAH. SO IT'S THE, IT'S THE ACREAGE OF THE OPEN SPACE. BUT IF YOU PUT LIKE A, UM, SO LIKE A SNACK BAR THERE, THAT WAS A BUILDING, WOULD THAT CONSTITUTE ELIMINATING? NO. A PORTION OF THE OPEN SPACE. IT'S STILL OPEN SPACE CO. IS THAT THE COUNTY? THIS IS COUNTED TOWARDS ROSEBROOK SOUTH OPEN, YES. AND IS THE, THIS ANTICIPATED THIS FACILITY THAT WAS GONNA BE FOR THE PEOPLE IN ROSEBROOK, I MEAN NOW THAT THERE'S NO ONE IN SOUTH, THEY'RE LETTING ROSEBROOK PRE ROSEBROOK PLAY. BUT WILL IT CONTINUE TO BE OPEN TO THE PEOPLE IN ROSEBROOK? DO YOU KNOW? THAT'S UP TO THE DEVELOPER. OKAY. OKAY. BUT HE HE'S WANTING THEM TO USE IT. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN BECAUSE IT IS, UM, A SOLID SURFACE, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE STORM WATER AND THE WATER DIMENSIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YEAH. ALL THAT CALCULATIONS, ALL THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR IN THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS. OUR ENGINEERING STAFF LOOKS AT THAT. WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE LETTERS, THE CITY COMMISSION FROM PEOPLE WHERE NEIGHBORS HAVE PUT IN PICKLEBALL COURTS AND THEY'RE VERY LOUD. RIGHT. OKAY. AND, AND, AND I'M OKAY IF THOSE LOTS HADN'T BEEN DEVELOPED. IT'S KIND OF A BUYER. BUYER BEWARE. BUYER BEWARE. BUT THEY, I I, I WOULDN'T WANNA APPROVE THIS IF THE LOTS HAVE BEEN SOLD. RIGHT THO THERE'S LOTS HAVE NOT BEEN SOLD. NO. 'CAUSE IT'S BRAND NEW LAND. YEAH. YEAH. WELL, AND TWO SIDES OF IT DON'T HAVE YEAH. THESE HERE I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING IT IN NOW SO THAT PEOPLE DRIVE IN TO SEE IT. THEY WOULD KNOW THAT. A LEMME AMANDA. YES. DO YOU KNOW IF THESE LOTS HERE WHAT, WHAT? IT'S FOUR A THAT YEAH. SO HASN'T BEEN RECORDED YET. HASN'T BEEN RECORDED. THAT'S RIGHT. SO FOUR A IS TO COMMON. THAT'S WHERE THE PARADE IS. SO THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN SOLD, THOSE LOTS HAVEN'T BEEN SOLD? NO, IT'S NOT PLATTED. SO WE HAVEN'T SOLD IT YET. OKAY. OKAY. ALL THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. YEAH. SO IF SOMEONE WANTS, WE'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A PICKLEBALL COURT ACROSS THE STREET, THEN THEY'LL KNOW IT'S NOT AFTER THE FACT. YEP. BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. BUT WHAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE ON THE, A COUPLE MONTHS WE'VE GOT, UH, AFTER, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE'LL THEN COME BACK IN WITH A SITE PLAN APPROVAL. AND THEN CONCURRENTLY WE WOULD GO IN WITH A DETAILED ENGINEERING PLAN APPROVAL. UH, I THINK IT'S ANOTHER PLANNING COMMISSION CYCLE, ALSO AN ENGINEERING APPROVAL. SO I THINK THEORETICALLY WE CAN'T START UNTIL AFTER JULY. UM, AND THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS BUILD OUT. UM, SO THERE'S A, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IT IS OPEN LATE THIS FALL OR IN THE WINTER. SO WILL THERE BE SIGNS UP DURING THE PARADE, LIKE FUTURE PICKLEBALL SITE? JUST, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TO KEN'S POINT THAT, THAT PEOPLE THAT, THAT LIVE IN LIKE WEST HAVEN OR GO TO FLORIDA AND ARE STAYING AT SOME, YOU KNOW, CONDO COMPLEX WHERE THEY ARE, THEY LOVE THE PICKLE BALLS ARE THERE, BUT THEY SAY THEY'RE VERY LOUD. SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT'S FOR OUR MARKETING STAFF TO DETERMINE IF THEY WANNA, UH, THEY'RE EXCITED TO START, YOU KNOW, LETTING, LETTING IT BE KNOWN TO THE PUBLIC THAT IT'S COMING. WE'VE, UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INDEPENDENT RESIDENTS THAT HAVE ASKED TO ADD, UH, TO THEIR, TO THEIR HOMES. AND THAT'S JUST BEEN SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD DO THAT BECAUSE IT COULD MAKE THEIR NEIGHBORS UPSET. SO THEN IT, IT BEGGED TO ASK THE QUESTION, DO WE NEED TO TRY AND PUT SOMETHING IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WAY WE CAN APPEASE THE PEOPLE THAT WANTED IT IN THEIR BACKYARD. YOU KNOW, WITH THIS BEING NEW GROUND, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET IT IN AND ESTABLISH IT IN THE COMMUNITY BEFORE THESE NEW LOTS ARE BUILT, UM, IN THE SOUTH. SO, BUT YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE LOOKING AT ENCLOSING THOSE TWO COURTS WITH, WITH A BUILDING. IT'S NOT GONNA BE A BUILDING STRUCTURE. RIGHT. IT'S NOT BEING CLOSED. IT'S GONNA BE LEFT WIDE OPEN. RIGHT FENCE WITH ACCESS CONTROL FOR RESIDENCE ONLY. YEAH. TOO MUCH SELLING THOSE LOTS ON THE RECORD. I NEED TO BACK UP ONE ITEM AND CORRECT MY, UH, CAFFEINE DEPRAVED MATH. IT'S NOT 148, IT'S MORE LIKE 1400 PER DAY . THAT'S, DID ANY OF US CATCH YOU ON THAT MATH? NOT ELSE. I'LL NEED SOME MORE. IT SEEMED REALLY LOW, BUT IT WOULD BE, YOU DIDN'T WANNA DO YOUR MATH, BUT I WAS LIKE, THAT'S A 10, THAT'S 10 AN HOUR. THAT'S A PRETTY WEAK PARADE. AND AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT PUBLIC, VERY EMBARRASSING APOLOGY. UH, IS THERE, IS THERE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DURING THESE, UH, PARADE OF HOMES? THAT WAS THE FIRST ITEM. ITEM UNDER CONDITIONS. THE FIRST, I COULDN'T GET IT UP ON THIS. OH YEAH, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IT SAID THEY NEEDED TO COORDINATE WITH BRENTWOOD CITY POLICE ABOUT TRAFFIC. [00:40:01] YEAH. THEY'LL COORDINATE WITH POLICE. I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT WHENEVER THAT OPENS WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT TRAFFIC CONTROL AND THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE AND COMMUNICATED VERY WELL SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. YEAH. AND IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, THEY ARE COMMITTED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. OKAY, SO IN THE PAST, YEAH, WE SEE NOW, BUT I DON'T HAVE, TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD THE PARADE THAT IT DUMPS OUT ON THE SPLIT LOG. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A LINE OF SIGHT ISSUE AND, AND WE GOT BRENTWOOD PD TO STEP IN AND KIND OF HELP US. THE, THE, THE REALLY, THE BIG NIGHT IS THE, UH, THE FIRST NIGHT, WHICH IS OUR PREVIEW PARTY. WE INVITE ALL THE BUILDING PARTNERS, A LOT OF VENDORS, THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE REALLY GONNA SEE A LOT OF ATTENDANCE ONCE IT'S OPEN. THE GENERAL PUBLIC THERE IS POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, UP TO ESTIMATED 1500 A DAY, BUT THAT PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN. SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THIS MASS WAVE OF EXODUS LIKE YOU WOULD ON THE NIGHT OF THE PREVIEW PARTY. SO WE'RE OPEN TO COORDINATING ON THE NIGHT WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FROM 10 TO SIX OR WHATEVER, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, FLOW, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE JUST A WAVE. UM, THE ACTUAL ROAD ITSELF, IT WAS STUDIED AND WE HAVE LINE OF SITE APPROVAL AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO IT'S SAFE FOR, UM, THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO ENTER AND EXIT. SO WE JUST LEFT IT OPEN. IF WE, IF WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN ISSUE, WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL MEASURES, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. WE'RE OPEN TO WHATEVER YOU GUYS, UH, WANNA RECOMMEND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS THAT WRAPS IT UP BACK THERE. OH, SORRY. I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO ADD. YES. UM, LAST YEAR I HAD ATTENDED THAT STATE OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND THEY HAD PUT OUT YOUTUBE, UM, VIDEOS THAT WORKED FOR OUR EDUCATION. THEY DID THE CONFERENCE AGAIN MARCH 19TH. AND THE YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE OUT NOW. SO I'LL SEND THEM TO ALLISON WHO CAN THEN SEND THEM TO US. BUT IT'S FIVE DIFFERENT LECTURES ON WATERLAND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE AND DO WHAT YOU WANT. BUT THE YOUTUBE, IT JUST CAME OUT YESTERDAY. ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT, UM, THE, AND THE FALL TAMPA, UM, SECTION, AMERICAN PLANNING SECTION WILL BE BACK IN COLD SPRINGS. OKAY. SO WHEN THEY RELEASE THAT STUFF, 'CAUSE THEY ALWAYS DO ONE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND BEZA MEMBERS. SO, UM, SO WE CAN GET OUR HOURS, WE GET THAT INFORMATION, WE CAN SEND THAT OUT TO Y'ALL. GREAT. THANK YOU. WHAT WAS THE TIMEFRAME? OKAY. WHEN WAS THE TIMEFRAME NOW? SO, UH, DURING, IN THE FALL IT'S THEIR FALL CONFERENCE. SO IT'S EITHER OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. I JUST KNOW THAT IT'S BACK HERE THIS YEAR. WE'LL SEND AN EMAIL OUT ONCE WE HAVE THE INFORMATION. SO I DIDN'T, I, I MISSED, UH, SO OUR, OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, UH, JASON GAGE. UM, GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. HE WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO, YOU KNOW, INTERRUPTED WHAT YOU WERE DOING. YOU WERE DOING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.