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GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AND, UH, WE'LL[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing April 24, 2025 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the April 28th Agendas, the items below will be discussed: STV Gateway Signage Brentwood Academy Video Scoreboard Discussion Veterans Memorial Ad Hoc Committee Guidelines This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
TRY AND BE TIMELY THIS MORNING.HE WAS, SO WE HAVE SOME SO SHAKEN UP
WE HAVE SOME GUESTS THAT, UH, HAVE A A 10 O'CLOCK APPOINTMENT AND SO WE'RE GONNA TRY AND GET THROUGH THEIR PART OF THE PRESENTATION AT LEAST BEFORE THEN.
THANKFULLY, WE DON'T HAVE A VERY BIG AGENDA TO DISCUSS WITH YOU.
UM, I THINK THE EXCITING PART OF THE EVENING IS GONNA BE STARTING OFF WITH THE, UH, SWEARING IN OF JASON GATE.
WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
UM, HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE, UH, FORMALLY THAT HE HAD CLOSED ON HIS HOME AND IS SUCCESSFULLY A BRICKWOOD RESIDENT.
SO, UH, VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD.
IN FACT, I THINK YOU'LL BE HERE TOMORROW PROBABLY KNOCKING OUT SOME HR PAPERWORK AHEAD OF TIME.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ALL SIT DOWN.
FIRST ITEM ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA IS THE SECOND AND FINAL READING OF OUR ORDINANCE REZONING, THE 38TH.
WHICH OF PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY HALL SUBDIVISION THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT? AN ERROR THAT YOU NOTICED ON THE MAPS.
IT NEEDS TO BE OSRD AND IT WAS SOMEHOW SHOWING THAT AS R TWO, SO IT'LL FORMALLY MAKE THAT CORRECTION.
WE PROCESS THIS REZONING AND THIS WILL GET IT DONE ON MONDAY.
UM, ON THE LIST, THE SCHEDULE THAT YOU HAD, IT'S ON THE SCHEDULE RIGHT HERE ON THURSDAY, APRIL 3RD, THERE WAS A REQUIRED COMMUNITY MEETING AND IT STILL SAYS TENTATIVE, BUT WE DID HAVE THAT MEETING.
AND THERE WERE A FEW FOLKS THAT SHOWED UP, RIGHT? YEAH.
UH, THERE WERE, THERE WERE, THERE WERE PROBABLY SIX, FIVE TO EIGHT PEOPLE SHOW UP.
ALL THEIR QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED AND OKAY.
NONE OF THEM SHOWED UP WITH A PUBLIC HEARING, SO OKAY.
THEY WERE, THEY WERE KIND OF LOOKING FOR THE FLY IN THE OINTMENT.
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WASN'T SOME DEVELOPMENT INTEREST HERE, SO, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE RECORD SAYS THAT WE HAD THAT MEETING, NOT THAT IT'S STILL COMMITTED JUST TO REFLECT THAT IT HAPPENED.
SO I DUNNO WHAT WE NEED TO DO ABOUT THAT.
UM, WE CAN JUST UPDATE THE AGENDA ITEM AND TAKE THE WORD TENANT ABOUT IT.
JUST THE AGENDA ITEM STARTS AND THEN CARRIES THROUGH.
NEXT ITEM IS AN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, KRAFT WHO, YOU KNOW, JUST, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
WILL THE NEW CITY MANAGER BE PRESIDING AT THE ECD MEETING FOR YOU? WELL, SO ECD IS GONNA BE AFTER THE MEETING, SO OH, AFTER? YEAH.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT REALLY CUT SHORT HIS RECEPTION
NO, WE'RE GONNA DO IT AFTER THE REGULAR MEETING THIS TIME.
SO, CRAFT, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THEY JUST PRESENTED YOUR AUDIT FOR 2024, AND STAFF HAS ASKED THAT WE MAY BE ENGAGED THEM AGAIN FOR THE 2025 AUDIT.
UH, WE WENT OUT AND, AND, UH, SECURED THEIR SERVICES WHEN BLANKENSHIP STRUGGLED TO PRODUCE IN A TIMELY MANNER.
UH, THE AUDITS, UH, FOR 2021 AND 2022, AND YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE HAD CRAFT FOR MANY YEARS.
AND THEN IN 2015 WE HAD MOVED AWAY FROM THEM IN, IN INTEREST OF KIND OF GOOD GOVERNANCE AND SHAKING IT UP A LITTLE.
AND SO, UH, THIS WOULD BE ONE MORE YEAR WITH CRAFT AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK OUT AND PUBLICLY PROCURE THOSE SERVICES AGAIN.
THE, UH, THE COST IS A TOTAL OF $65,600.
WE'LL ADJUST THE, UH, CITY SIDE OF IT, NOT THE ECD SIDE.
AND, UH, THAT INCLUDES A SINGLE AUDIT COST OF $3,800, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE AMOUNT OF GRANT MONEY THAT WE RECEIVE IS OVER 750,000.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A KIND OF YET ANOTHER AMENDMENT, UH, TO THIS AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE STATE WHERE THEY HELP PAY FOR CADET RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION COST OF SENDING OUR, UH, CADETS THROUGH THE ACADEMY.
THEY SHARE IN THOSE COSTS WITH US.
BUT THEY HAVE REQUESTED A NUMBER OF CHANGES OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND, UH, THIS ONE GOOD NEWS, IT INCREASES THEIR LIABILITY UP $100,000, UH, BUT ALSO ADDS A FEW DAYS, UH, TO THE AGREEMENT.
UM, AND POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS JUST REQUESTED YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS, THAT, UH, ON THE THIRD PAGE THERE WHERE YOU SEE ACTUAL GRANT AMENDMENT, THAT $300,000 USED TO SAY $200,000.
SO GOOD NEWS FOR US, WE HAVE AN ALTERATION TO AN OSRD DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR ALAN'S GREEN THAT WE NEED YOU TO CONSIDER.
AND, UH, TODD HAS INDICATED THERE WAS A DRIVEWAY TO A BARN, AND I THINK I'VE GOT A VISUAL I CAN SHOW YOU.
IT WAS INSTALLED SORT OF WITHOUT CITY APPROVAL AND IT NEEDS TO HAVE AN EASEMENT ON IT.
SO THERE DOES NEED TO BE, UH, A PLAN COMING FORWARD FOR APPROVAL OF THAT, BUT ALSO A CHANGE TO THE OSRD OPEN SPACE AND THE CITY COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO APPROVE
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ANY CHANGES.SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS COMING IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR THIS DRIVEWAY THAT WAS INSTALLED TO A BARN.
SO, JAY, IS THAT THE BARN THAT, UH, THE ALLEN FAMILY'S HAD THERE FOR A LONG TIME? THEY JUST PUT A NEW ACCESS TO IT WHEN THEY DID THE IT IS.
AND THE ALLEN'S PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY LOT 18 HERE, AND THERE'S RESTRICTIONS FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT CAN'T BE SUBDIVIDED IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SO WHEN THE SUBDIVISION WAS APPROVED, THIS OPEN SPACE AREA HERE, THERE WAS AN EASEMENT CREATED, BUT THERE WAS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE EASEMENT BEING A DRIVEWAY.
SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND INSTALLED A DRIVEWAY WITHOUT, UM, OFFICIAL APPROVAL.
THERE'S AN ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPH, AN AERIAL VIEW THERE THAT THAT'S WHAT EXISTS TODAY.
SO THEY OWNS
UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE OFF OF, UM, SPLIT LOG KIND, KIND OF AFTER BY RAVENWOOD.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A CHANGE ORDER WITH EISEN GUARD CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE ARDEN WOOD SCALES PUMP STATION PROJECT.
WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, SOME DELAYS DUE MAINLY TO, UH, FABRICATION AND SHIPMENT OF TRANSFER SWITCH.
ENGINEER HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSED REQUESTED NUMBER OF DAYS, UH, TO BE ADDED TO THE CONTRACT AND THEY AGREED THAT IT IS REASONABLE.
AND SO TO EXTEND THE COMPLETION DATE FROM MARCH 17TH, AUGUST 22ND, WITH EISEN GUARD FOR THIS PROJECT, AND DREW'S HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, CHANGE ORDER WITH CUNNINGHAM CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CARLAY WATERLINE PROJECT.
A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR REQUESTED EXTENSION OF 60 DAYS TO THIS CONTRACT.
THEY ENCOUNTERED SOME DIFFICULTIES WITH THE ELEVATION OF FIRE HYDRANTS AND THEN THAT REQUIRED THEM TO ORDER PARTS AND MAKE SOME RETROFITS AS WELL AS THERE WAS AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF ROCK ANTICIPATED, OR MORE THAN ANTICIPATED.
AND I WAS HOPING I HAD A VISUAL THERE, BUT I DON'T.
UM, AND THAT SIMPLY CAUSED DELAYS AND THE ENGINEER LOOKED AT THAT AND SAID, YEAH, FOR THIS AREA, THAT WAS AN UNUSUAL AMOUNT OF ROCK.
AND SO HE SUPPORTS THIS ADDITION OF 60 DAYS AND THE NEW SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE WOULD BE MAY 12TH, 2025.
AGAIN, DREW'S HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2020, THESE PHASED.
THE PARTS ARE EASILY OBTAINABLE.
IT'S JUST, UM, THEY, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF DELAY ON, ON GETTING THE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO PRODUCTS.
UH, KIND OF, KIND OF CAME IN AT THE LAST MINUTE TO GET THOSE ORDERED.
IS THE CITY'S LARGEST SUBDIVISION WIDE, UH, WATER LINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT WE'VE EVER HAD.
I HAD MENTIONED IN YOUR LAST MEETING, UH, WE HAVE TWO TRAFFIC SIGNAL DETECTION CAMERAS THAT WERE DAMAGED AS PART OF THE LIGHTNING STRIKES APRIL 5TH.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT SYSTEM, WE CAN'T JUST BUY A PART, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO REPLACE THE SYSTEM NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER SERVICEABLE.
AND SO IT REQUIRES US TO, UH, TO TRY AND BUY THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.
AND FOR THOSE TWO AT THE TWO INTERSECTIONS IS $57,000.
AND OF COURSE THERE WILL BE AN INSURANCE CLAIM THAT HOPEFULLY WILL REIMBURSED.
HOW DO, HOW DO WE KNOW WHEN THEY'RE MALFUNCTION, THEY'RE SLOWING DOWN? IS THERE SOME TYPE OF ALERTING SYSTEM OR WE JUST GET CALLS AND PEOPLE SAY, BOY, I'M SITTING AT THIS LIGHT A LONG TIME AND IT'S NOT CHANGING.
SOMETIMES IT'S THE LATTER THAT SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET A CALL AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO GO OUT AND LOOK AND SEE.
THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY CAN GET ALERTED ON THEIR EQUIPMENT, BUT, UH, OOPS, SORRY.
YEAH, ACTUALLY WE'RE, TODD'S NOT IN HERE, BUT LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY WHO'D LIKE TODD WHO, OR THERE'S NOT AN ALERT SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, I IMAGINE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT CAN GO DOWN THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET ALERTED TO, BUT I KNOW WE DO ALSO GET CALLS FROM YUGOS FOLKS WHO SAY, HEY, CONSTITUENT REACHED OUT TO ME AND IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING QUITE RIGHT AT A CERTAIN INTERSECTION.
AND THEY GO OUT AND LOOK AND SURE ENOUGH, THE DETECTION EQUIPMENT'S NOT QUITE WORKING, BUT THIS THEY KNEW PRETTY QUICK WITH LIGHTNING STRIKES AND IT FRIED THAT PART OF THE SYSTEM.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS THE PURCHASE OF CRADLE POINT ROUTERS AND AXON CAMERAS FOR THE FIRE APPARATUS FOR APPARATUSES.
TOTAL COST OVER FIVE YEARS IS $247,098.
AND YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE HAD ALREADY SWITCHED OVER TO CRADLE POINTS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
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AND THIS IS SORT OF THE LAST STEP TO GET THAT EQUIPMENT IN THE CABS FOR THE FIRE APPARATUS AS WELL AS THE CAMERAS.AND YOU'LL NOTE THAT WE WERE ON THE AXON CAMERA SYSTEM WITH PD.
THIS WILL GET EVERYTHING IN FIRE OVER TO IT AS WELL.
AND SO THIS, UH, THIS IS A LONG TERM OBLIGATION WHEN WE SWITCH THAT EQUIPMENT OVER AND IT'S A, UH, FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, ALMOST $250,000.
THIS COULD BE A QUESTION FOR SARAH AS MUCH AS YOU, BUT OUTTA CURIOSITY, DOES THE CRADLEPOINT SYSTEM, DOES THIS DO ANYTHING BESIDES PREEMPTION? DOES IT GIVE ANY ADDITIONAL DATA CAPABILITY TO, IT'S BASICALLY THE ROUTER THAT'S IN THE APPARATUS.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ROCKETS THAT DO THAT SERVE THAT SAME PURPOSE.
SO THEY SEND ALL THE DATA BACK, THEY TALK TO CAD, THEY RECEIVE THE DATA.
SO WE'RE JUST REPLACING THOSE WITH THESE YEAH.
AND THEY HAVE DUAL SIM IN THEM THAT ARE LIVE DUAL SIM.
AND SO IF VERIZON STOPS WORKING, IT AUTOMATICALLY KICKS OVER TO AT AND T RIGHT NOW WITH ROCKET, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY IN IT.
BUT WITH THESE, IT'LL ACTUALLY BE A LOT.
THEY'LL BOTH BE LIVE, SO THERE'LL BE NO DELAY IN THEM.
SO I WAS FOCUSING ON THE PREEMPTION.
THAT'S JUST A LITTLE PIECE OF WHAT THIS DOES.
THIS IS THE, THE, THE ROUTER FOR ALL THE DATA.
THIS IS THE ROUTER FOR THE DATA FOR THOSE FIRE APPARATUSES.
WHAT WE'RE FINDING WITH THE ONES THAT ARE IN THERE RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE REALLY UNRELIABLE WITH THE PREEMPTION SYSTEM.
UM, AND THEY'RE UNRELIABLE IN GENERAL.
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME FIXING THOSE ROCKETS.
AND I THINK THE DATA ONBOARD, THE, THE APPARATUS IS GONNA BE MORE IMPORTANT, NOT LESS IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD.
SO HAVING GOOD RIDERS GOTTA BE IMPORTANT FOR A LOT OF REASONS BESIDES PREEMPTION.
GUESS I WAS SAYING DEFENSE OF THE ROCKETS.
THEY WERE AN UPGRADE FROM WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.
ARE WE DONE? WE'RE DONE WITH CONSENT, RIGHT? UM, YES MA'AM.
I WANTED TO ASK, 'CAUSE I WAS ASKED YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS, AND IT MAY KIND OF BE A TODD QUESTION TOO.
I JUST WALKED IN TALKING ABOUT LIGHTS AND CAMERAS AND EVERYTHING IS BECAUSE, UM, THE SCHOOL CROSS THE LIGHTS IN THE SCHOOL ZONE AT LIPSCOMB CONCORD ROAD IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE.
THE QUESTION WAS, CAN WE INCREASE THE SIZE OF THOSE LIGHTS? I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, TRIED TO MOVE SIGNS, AND IT'S AN ISSUE WITH WHAT THE POLES ARE AND THERE'S CERTAIN PLACES WHERE VISUALLY IT'S BLOCKED.
BUT SINCE THEY'RE KIND OF OLDER AND SMALLER AND TILT UNDER, COULD WE INCREASE THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE LIGHTS AT ALL? I HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH.
I, I'M ONLY AWARE OF THE ONE STANDARD SIZE, BUT THERE MAY BE OTHER OPTIONS THAT I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH, SO OKAY.
THEY HAD JUST COMPARED IT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT THEY HAD SEEN LARGER SIGNS AND JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THAT'LL, 'CAUSE THEY DRIVE THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME AND JUST SEE PEOPLE SPEEDING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME AND YEAH.
THAT JUST INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE LIGHT AND MAYBE HOW IT FLASHES OR SOMETHING TO GET MORE ATTENTION, UM, ON THAT.
NEXT ITEM IS AN AGREEMENT WITH SULLIVAN ENGINEERING, UH, TO MOVE OUT OF PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND INTO FULL DESIGN FOR SPLIT LOG ROAD, PHASE THREE A RECALL, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE SPLIT THAT PROJECT UP A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS SAM DONALD TO THE INTERSECTION OF SUNSET AND WALLER AND THE RIGHT OF WAY PART OF THAT DESIGN WAS DONE AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN.
SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE QUICKER INTO RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AS A FULL DESIGN IS BEING DONE.
SO THIS CONTRACT, UM, WITH THEM WOULD BE FOR $253,545.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE CDI SERVICES.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE DONE WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO CONSTRUCTION.
WE HAVE A CD MEETING AFTERWARDS.
WE'LL HAVE YOUR QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT AND REPORT FROM KATHLEEN AND NEW BUSINESS.
WE HAVE THE AGREEMENT WITH CRAFT CPAS, WHICH ARE PROPORTIONATE COMPANION TO THE ONE FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND OTHER CITY COMPONENTS.
SORRY, I WAS GONNA TAKE THE AMOUNT FOR CRAFT.
THERE'S GONNA BE $10,400 FOR ECD IF YOU HAVE NO QUESTIONS, I'LL CONCLUDE THE AGENDA REVIEW PORTION OF THIS MEETING.
AND ITEM NUMBER THREE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO WAIT ON THAT.
I HAD A REQUEST FROM ONE OF YOU THAT WE CAN, UM, KIND OF WAIT UNTIL
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AFTER THE ELECTION AND TALK ABOUT THAT.'CAUSE THERE WERE SOME, SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT THE DETAILS THAT I HAD PRESENTED TO YOU.
AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT ANOTHER DATE.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE THE FOLKS FROM BRENTWOOD ACADEMY HERE TO, UH, TALK ABOUT THE VIDEO SCOREBOARD.
SO WE'LL ACTUALLY DO THAT FIRST.
AND DAVID WILL HAVE YOU COME IN AND WE'LL, OR NO, WE DON'T NEED TO SWITCH OVER YET.
YEAH, WHY ARE, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT GONNA GO ON AND DISCUSS THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
THE REASON WAS ONE OF YOU HAD ASKED THAT MAYBE WE COULD PUT THAT ON AFTER THE, AFTER THE ELECTION AND DISCUSS IT BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME DETAILS THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY REALLY AGREED ON MAYBE THE WAY THAT WOULD BE DONE.
SO WE JUST MOVED THAT AFTER THE ELECTION.
IT JUST TAKES ONE PERSON ASKING, USUALLY ON SOMETHING THAT'S A BRIEFING TOPIC, WE USUALLY DEFER TO YOU GUYS ON THAT.
OR LIKE, IT'S KINDA LIKE IF ONE OF YOU IS GONNA BE OUT ON AN IMPORTANT ITEM, WHICH I MOVE IT TO ANOTHER BRIEFING DISCUSSION.
SO, AND THAT WASN'T THE ONE THAT ASKED, BUT I AGREE.
THAT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT LATER.
AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I COMMUNICATED THAT IN WRITING TO YOU.
SO VIDEO SCOREBOARD, UM, TODD, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT CHANGES TO THE SCOREBOARDS AND WE HAD INDICATED WE'D COME BACK TO YOU AFTER WE HAD HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEND COMMUNICATION OR GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS.
AND, UH, TODD HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND I'LL LET YOU FILL THEM IN ON.
SO, UM, I HAD REACHED OUT TO BRENTWOOD ACADEMY, OF COURSE, AND, AND ASKED THEM TO, UM, REACH OUT TO, I BELIEVE IT WAS SIX ADJOINING RESIDENTS THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY AFFECTED.
THEY DRAFTED A LETTER, UM, THEY WENT DOOR TO DOOR AND THEY HANDED THEM THE LETTER.
UH, WE HAD A MEETING ON THE 17TH.
WE INVITED THEM TO A MEETING ON THE 17TH WHERE I WOULD EXPLAIN THE PROPOSAL.
UM, AND EVERYONE, THEY TALKED TO EVERY INDIVIDUAL EXCEPT FOR ONE, AND THEY WERE ALL OKAY WITH THE PROPOSAL.
UM, SO I ATTENDED THE MEETING ON THE 17TH ALONG WITH RAY AND MR. MATTHEWS.
AND, UM, NO ONE, NO ONE ATTENDED.
SO STAFF PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE COMPARISON.
UM, WHO HAS THE CLICKER? YEAH, SO THAT'S JUST THE DEFINITION.
SO THERE, THERE'S THE VISUAL OF WHAT BRENTWOOD HIGH HAS, RAVENWOOD HAS AND WHAT BRENTWOOD ACADEMY IS PROPOSING.
UM, THESE ARE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, COMPARISONS.
SO, UH, BRENTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL, THEIR VIDEO BOARD IS 680 SQUARE FEET, RAVENWOOD AT 7 0 4 BRENTWOOD ACADEMY'S PROPOSING JUST OVER 600 AS FAR AS TOTAL HEIGHT.
THE ORDINANCE CAPS IT AT, I BELIEVE, 34 FEET CURRENTLY.
UH, BRENTWOOD HIGH'S AT 38, RAVENWOOD AT 36 BA'S PROPOSING 35.
UM, I'VE ALREADY TAKEN A STAB AT ADJUSTING THE LANGUAGE AND THE ORDINANCE, UH, SHOULD THE COMMISSION WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, SO THERE WAS A REQUEST TO ALLOW TO ALLOW THE VIDEO BOARDS TO BE USED DURING PRACTICES, BUT ONLY FOR SCORE AND TIMEKEEPING, ONLY NOT, NOT DISPLAYING VIDEOS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, JUST TO INCORPORATE SCORE AND TIMEKEEPING.
SO I'VE MADE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE CODE TO ALLOW THAT.
WELL, I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT YOU.
UM, SO DURING PRACTICE, DO THEY USE THE SCORE BOARD SYSTEM? AND THEY MAY ALL, I MEAN, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT SOUND SYSTEMS IN THE FIELDS.
IS THE SOUND SYSTEM IF IT'S AN ENHANCED SOUND SYSTEM, IS THAT AN ISSUE DURING PRACTICE? I, THERE'S, THERE'S NO AUDIO COMPONENT TO IT.
THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN, IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE VIDEO SAMPLE.
AND THEN, UM, THEY HAD REQUESTED THIS, UH, ADVERTISING PORTION AT THE BOTTOM HERE, THIS PERMANENT COMMERCIAL ADVERTISEMENT SECTION.
SO HERE I'VE WRITTEN IN, WE'VE WRITTEN IN, EXCEPT FOR 60 SQUARE FEET OF ADVERTISING AREA, COMMERCIAL MESSAGES SHALL NOT BE DISPLAYED ON ANY SCOREBOARD.
SO WE'VE WRITTEN IN THAT ALLOWANCE TO HAVE A SMALL COMMERCIAL PERMANENT ADVERTISING ON THE BOARD.
UM, AS FAR AS THE HEIGHT, OH, I'M SORRY.
CURRENTLY IT'S CURRENTLY CAPPED AT 30.
SO WE'VE INCREASED THAT TO 40 FEET.
SO ALL OF THEM WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE, BRENTWOOD, HIGH RAVENWOOD, AND BA.
AND THEN THE, THE, THE VIDEO PORTION OF THE BOARD WERE PROPOSING
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710 SQUARE FEET.UH, SO AGAIN, ALL OF THEM WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE AND, UM, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT HOW DO WE PREVENT MULTIPLE BOARDS AND ALL THAT.
SO I'VE WRITTEN IN ONLY SINGLE-SIDED AND ONE PER CAMPUS.
NOW, GO BACK ONE SECOND TO THE SCREEN YOU JUST SHOWED, AND THIS IS JUST A PICKY LITTLE THING.
THE ONE WITH THE RULES ABOUT THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOOTAGE IN THE, UM, MESSAGE BOARD AT THE BOTTOM.
THE, THE LANGUAGE, THE REVISED LANGUAGE.
LET'S SEE THAT GO TO THE REVISED LANGUAGE LINE UHOH THERE.
NOW I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS, BUT SOMETIMES YOU KNOW HOW PEOPLE PICK AROUND WHAT'S NOT THERE.
RIGHT DOWN AT THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS AN ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY INCORPORATED INTO A SCOREBOARD MAY NOT EXCEED 710 SQUARE FEET.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE MESSAGE PORTION OR THE SIZE OF THE ENTIRE BOARD? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MESSAGE PORTION? CORRECT.
SO THAT PART AND THAT'S THAT, NO, THAT, SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S POSSIBLE ON ALL OF THEM.
YOU SAID YOU WENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
THAT WOULD BE THIS PORTION? THAT'S THIS PORTION.
AND FOR THIS, IT'S ALL OF THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF THE VIDEO DISPLAY BOARD.
SO THAT IS, IS THIS BLACK AREA.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SEVEN 10 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND REALLY WHEN YOU, ON THIS PICTURE HERE, THE GROVE PART, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, WE'LL PUT THAT IN.
WHICH BRENTWOOD ALREADY HAS OVER THERE.
BRENTWOOD DOES ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE KIND OF CATCHING UP EVERYBODY AND AT SOME POINT, AND I'M FOR THIS, I, TWO YEARS AGO I TALKED TO KURT AND KRISTEN AND SAID, WE NEED TO DO THIS 'CAUSE THE KIDS WANT THIS.
BUT AT SOME POINT YOU DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND AND YOU SAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA CATCH UP ANYMORE.
THESE ARE OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS, BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOOD RULES AND REGULATIONS.
SO ON ON THE MESSAGE IS THE ORDINANCE, DID YOU WRITE IT BASED ON THE MOCKUP OF THE ONE SHOWING THE BRENTWOOD ACADEMY SIGN AND WHAT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED OR IS, AND THE REASON I ASK IS I UNDERSTAND THAT NEITHER RAVENWOOD NOR BHS IS, IS IN THE CITY, SO TO SPEAK.
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE BOTH COUNTY FACILITIES AND HAVE COUNTY REGS ON THE SCOREBOARDS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THIS KIN TRYING TO DRAW IT FOR THE LONG TERM.
I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH GOING THE FULL WIDTH OF THE SCOREBOARD IN AN APPROPRIATE ASPECT RATIO DOWN FOR THE SPONSOR MESSAGE.
JUST KNOWING HOW IMPORTANT THAT CAN BE TO THE SCHOOL AND HAVING A BOARD THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A RECTANGLE AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE A DIFFERENT THING SORT ATTACKED ON THE BOTTOM.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND HOW WE COULD WRITE THE REG BASED ON A CONCEPT THAT SHOWS A RECTANGLE T ON THE BOTTOM, BUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO DRAW, DRAW SOME THE LONG TERM, I DON'T KNOW THE, WE DON'T JUST GO AHEAD AND DRAW IT FOR A RECTANGLE AND JUST HAVE IT BE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FULL WIDTH OF THE SCOREBOARD AND SOME APPROPRIATE ASPECT RATIO DOWN FOR THAT.
SO YOU COULD USE IT FOR SPONSOR STUFF, WHICH IS WHAT VHS DID ON THE, IN, IN THEIR STADIUM.
AND, AND THAT I ASK JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DRAW A REG JUST SPECIFIC TO A, A PICTURE, BUT, BUT IF THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE TO HAVING IT, YOU KNOW, JUST A SMALL SIGN IN THE MIDDLE KIND OF TAG ON.
I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT I CAN JUST SEE THE ADVANTAGE OF GIVING 'EM A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.
WELL, WITH THAT COMPONENT, UM, THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO BRENTWOOD ACADEMY BECAUSE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEIR DONOR TO HAVE A, A, A COMMERCIAL MESSAGE.
OH, AND I'M NOT GONNA RID OF IT, I'M SAYING YEAH.
AND WE JUST CAPPED IT AT 60 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE IS IS IT, IS IT THE NEAT DIMENSIONS OF THIS OR IS THAT HERE? THAT'S KINDA WHAT COMMISSIONER ANDREW.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
UM, IT'S THEIR 60 SQUARE FOOT IS THE SMALL AREA.
SO, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE JUST GO AHEAD AND BROADEN THAT TO WHERE IF, LET'S SAY THEY WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE THERE, MUCH LIKE WHAT IS ALREADY DONE HERE, WE COULD YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE I DON'T FIND WHAT WOULD BE JUST HATEFUL.
AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT BA HAS A SPONSOR WILLING TO GO IN LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE A SINGLE SPONSOR ON THERE.
NOT EVERY FOOTBALL PROGRAM IS ALWAYS GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE ONE SPONSOR TO DO IT.
SO HAVING, HAVING THAT SPACE MAY TURN OUT TO BE VALUABLE TO 'EM AT SOME POINT FROM SPONSORSHIP STANDPOINT.
AGAIN, THIS BRINGS IT UP TO STANDARDS AND WE SAY THIS IS THE STANDARD AND WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE ANYMORE.
SO, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
SO AND I COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, BHS HAS THIS WHOLE THING, THIS SCOREBOARD WIDE, WE ONLY HAVE THIS LITTLE ONE AND RIGHT.
WE COULD MODIFY IT TO INCLUDE LIKE THIS AREA, THIS WHOLE WIDE AREA.
DO WE, DO WE KNOW THE WIDTH OF VHS'S BOARD
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VERSUS RAVEN WOODS'S BOARD IS, TO ME IT APPEARS IN THIS MOCKUP, WHICH IT MAY NOT BE TO SCALE THAT RA UH, BRENTWOOD ACADEMIES IS A LOT WIDER VERSUS TALLER.SO DO WE KNOW WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS OF THE VHS'S WHITE 3, 4, 5 SPOTS FOR COMMERCIAL WAS ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WASN'T IT? UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE VIDEO, I DO NOT HAVE TOTAL WIDTH OR HEIGHT ON, ON, ON THIS.
UM, 'CAUSE ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE I'VE GOT A TOTAL OF THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE, WHICH INCLUDES THE BASES.
SO TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO BE UNIFORM ACROSS ALL THREE OPTIONS.
SO ALL THREE PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME OPTION FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIGNAGE, RIGHT? THEY ARE, I MEAN, WHAT BA'S PROPOSING IS, IS SMALLER THAN WHAT BRENTWOOD HIGH AND RAVENWOOD HAVE SQUARE.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE ADJO ADJUST THE ORDINANCE AS WE'RE PROPOSING, WE'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT BRENTWOOD ACADEMY'S ASKING FOR.
SO THEY COULD GO BACK TO THE DONOR AND SAY, HEY, YOU WANT TO DO A LITTLE LARGER IF THIS, IF THIS GETS APPROVED.
BUT THEN DO YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE NEIGHBORS
TO COMMISSIONER ANDREW'S POINT, COULD WE FIND OUT HOW MUCH BRENTWOOD HIGH HAS ON THEIR PERMANENT SPOT? WE, WE KNOW IT'S A HUNDRED.
IT'S A, IT SAYS HERE 102 SQUARE FEET ON MY NOTES.
SO IT WOULD GO FROM 60 SQUARE FEET TO AROUND A HUNDRED.
FOR THE COMMERCIAL PERMANENT ADVERTISING.
WELL, IS THERE FIELD, UH, AS BIG AS RAVEN WOODSVILLE LOOKS GIGANTIC TO ME AND RIGHT.
AND ACTUALLY BRENT WAS AS BIGGER THAN IT LOOKED WHEN MY KIDS WENT THERE.
IT MIGHT JUST BE THE SURROUNDING IT.
DOES EVERYBODY NEED, I MEAN, MAYBE BRENTWOOD IS ACADEMY IS FINE WITH THIS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR.
YOU KNOW, IS THERE MAYBE A RANGE, A CON, YOU KNOW, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF CONTINUITY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, UM, PICK AND CHOOSE FOR THIS PERSON AND THAT PERSON, BUT DOES THAT HELP YOU OUT AT ALL TO SAY THERE'S A RANGE FROM THIS TO THIS, WHICH WILL BE ALLOWABLE IN OUR, OUR LIGHTING ORDINANCES OR SONY ORDINANCE, WHICHEVER YOU CALL THIS.
IT'S EASIER FOR US IF WE HAVE A MORE, A UNIFORM STANDARD THAT DOESN'T, THAT UNIFORM DOESN'T TRY TO FLEX FOR THE STADIUM SIZE.
ISN'T THAT, ISN'T THAT UNIFORM? I MEAN, WE SAY HOUSES CAN GO UP TO WHAT, 54 FEET, BUT WE DON'T SAY THEY ALL HAVE TO BE 54 FEET.
SO IT WAS, THIS WAS, HE'S SETTING A MAX WHERE HE SAID THAT THE, THE, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
THESE ARE JUST MAXIMUM LIMITS.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING EXPAND OR CONTRACT THE SIZE OF THE STADIUM.
NO, I'M JUST SAYING WHEN A SIGN GOES UP, THEY CAN GET DO BETWEEN X AND Y.
IT, IT, IT'S GONNA PROVIDE MAXIMUMS THAT THEY CAN'T EXCEED.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO REASON THAT THE, UH, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, UH, SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE IT AND, UH, IN PRIVATE SCHOOL, UM, SHOULDN'T.
AND, UM, THIS MEETS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ONLY ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE TO ADJUST THE ALLOWANCE FOR THE PERMANENT COMMERCIAL MESSAGE, THE AREA TO MAKE IT EVEN.
AND ONCE AGAIN, AS A MAX, NOT AS A REQUIREMENT.
SO THAT'S A GREEN LIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD,
UH, WELL, WELL ONE OTHER THING JUST TO BE SURE.
UM, KRISTEN, UM, I SEE THAT IT WAS WRITTEN TO JUST APPLY AN SI ZONE.
BECAUSE I KNOW ONE OF THE, THE TALK, ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD BEFORE IS ABOUT NOT BEING THE COMMISSION, THE GREEN LIGHTS, DIGITAL BILLBOARDS UP AND DOWN FRANKLIN ROAD OR OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE SI ZONES AND IT'S SPECIFIC TO ATHLETIC FIELDS AND SCOREBOARDS.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY SI ZONE LAND WHERE SOMEBODY WOULD TAKE THIS AND TRY TO PUT IT IN THE BILLBOARD? IS THERE ANY SI ZONE LAND ADJACENT TO I 65? AND AGAIN, THIS IS LIMITED TO, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTER I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
IT ALSO IS SPECIFIC TO A SCOREBOARD ON AN ATHLETIC FIELD.
SO I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S NARROWLY TAILORED ENOUGH.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE THE ONES THAT DO THAT.
AND I WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO TODD IF THERE'S OTHER SI LAND THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT.
SO WE, WE ALL THE PARKS WOULD BE CITY ON, SO OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO ARE THERE ANY CHURCHES THAT MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A BILLBOARD TO, UH, SCHOOLBOARD ATHLETIC FIELDS? SO THE CHURCHES HAVE ATHLETIC FIELDS, RIGHT? SOMETIMES,
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SOME OF THEM, BUT SAID, BUT WE CAN REGULATE THE CONTENT TO THE POINT THAT WE SAID IT'S A SCOREBOARD, IT'S NOT COMPLETELY CONTENT.UH, CHARLES, LET YOU INTRODUCE OUR CONSULTANTS THAT ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT GATEWAY SIGNAGE, TRY AND GET SOME, UH, PREFERENCES FROM THE CITY COMMISSION, WHAT THEY WANNA SEE.
SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THIS PROJECT ROLLING.
THAT'S BEEN WHILE FOR A WHILE PROVING AND UNIFYING THE GATEWAY SIGNAGE AROUND TOWN.
WE'VE, UH, CONSULTED WITH OR, UH, CONTRACTED WITH, UH, TV, UH, ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL FIRM IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
AND BEFORE WE DESIGN SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT FIT THE BRENTWOOD, UH, STYLE OF PERSONALITY, WE'RE WILLING TO GET YOUR INPUT.
SO I HAVE WITH US MR. BRAD THOMPSON, VICE PRESIDENT OF STV, AND WE HAVE, UH, SOME DESIGNERS, I GUESS IF THERE'S ANY DESIGN RELATED QUESTIONS THAT ARE, UH, ON THE CALL, IN CASE YOU HEAR SOMEBODY SPEAKING, DON'T GET STARTLED.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, ACTUALLY I'LL JUST LEAVE THESE, I'LL LEAVE THESE BEHIND WITH YOU.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE'RE HERE TODAY IS ACTUALLY TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT YOUR FULL ATTENTION.
AND, AND I KNOW WHENEVER I HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF ME, I IMMEDIATELY START FLIPPING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU ALL TODAY BECAUSE, UH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE IDENTITY OF, OF, UH, THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD.
UM, SIGN HASN'T LOOKED THAT GOOD IN 10 YEARS.
WELL, I WANNA BE THERE WHEN IT'S TORN DOWN.
I, WE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
I TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.
UH, SO I GUESS THE, THE, THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO ASK YOU, I THINK I JUST GOT A, UM, LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR ALL'S THOUGHTS WHEN YOU SEE THIS SIGN OLD, UH, COMES TO MIND? OLD.
IT RE IT HONESTLY REMINDS ME OF DRIVING THROUGH RURAL EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA, WHICH I GREW UP IN AND I LOVE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD.
WHEN YOU ENTER A COMMUNITY, IT'S, IT'S SO OUTDATED, AND I'M SURE THEY'VE REPLACED THEIRS NOW.
IT'S JUST ONE SIMPLE THAT WE HAVE THROUGH THE CITY.
AND, UM, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, UH, THE BRANDING IDENTITY LOOKS LIKE, UH, AND THEN GO AROUND THAT AND THEN NOT VARY, UH, FROM THAT.
WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
SO, WELL, I, AS, UM, I, I'M A RESIDENT OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY, AND, UH, I ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE NORTH PART OF SPRING HILL THOMPSON STATION, AND IT ONLY TOOK ME AN HOUR TO GET HERE THIS MORNING,
SO I WAS EMAILING, I WAS EMAILING THESE FOLKS SAYING, HEY, I'M GETTING THERE AS QUICK AS I CAN GET HERE.
SO,
AND, UH, BUT, BUT I WAS, I WAS VERY GLAD TO SEE SOME OF THE, UH, BRENTWOOD SIGNS WHENEVER I DID FIND THE REACH HERE.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S ROLL THROUGH HERE A LITTLE BIT, UH, A LITTLE BIT ON THE AGENDA.
UH, INITIALLY STARTING OUT, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A FEW, UH, DETAILS, KIND OF A DETAILED DISCUSSION.
THEN I, WHAT I REALLY WANNA DO THOUGH, AS I SAID, UM, IS OUR GOAL HERE TODAY IS TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, SO THAT, THAT CAN GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE.
AND, UM, UH, DAVID A, UH, WHO'S ON THE LINE HERE, UH, CAN WORK ON, UH, PULLING TOGETHER SOME RENDERINGS AND THINGS FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER IN FUTURE MEETINGS.
SO, UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING HERE TODAY.
UH, I DON'T WANNA SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON THIS, BUT, UH, STV IS, UH, A COMPANY OF A LITTLE OVER 3000 EMPLOYEES NATIONWIDE.
WE'VE GOT AN OFFICE HERE IN, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY DOWN IN, UH, SOUTH FRANKLIN BERRY FARMS AREA.
UH, I'VE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY FOR FOUR YEARS NOW.
UM, AND, BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING HERE IN THE MIDDLE TENNESSEE REGION FOR MOST OF MY CAREER.
I GREW UP NOT TOO FAR FROM, UH, NORTH CAROLINA.
I GREW UP OVER IN EAST TENNESSEE.
UM, SO I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE MOUNTAINS OVER THERE.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER THERE.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, UH, DAVID, WHO'S ON THE, ON THE CALL WITH US HERE, UH, HE HAS WORKED WITH A VARIETY OF CLIENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
YOU CAN SEE HE'S WORKED WITH THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA, PHILADELPHIA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE LOGOS AND THINGS THAT HE'S BEEN A PART OF.
UH, HE'S REALLY THE, THE PRIMARY, AS WE SAY, THE, THE VISUAL BRANDING SPECIALIST HERE.
UM, THAT'S, UH, AN AWARD-WINNING, UH, UH, UH, ARTIST.
AND, UH, SO HE'LL BE INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT AS WELL, AND HE'LL BE REALLY DOING THE HARD WORK.
UM, SO HE'LL BE KIND OF A LITTLE MORE BEHIND THE SCENES.
UH, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHO THAT WAS.
SO, UH, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT HERE ABOUT, UH, THE PROCESS.
UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, LOOK AS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, AND, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT YOU ALL.
UH, YOU ALL ARE THE LEADERS OF, OF THE CITY.
AND, UH, AND SO WE'VE GOTTA HAVE YOUR FEEDBACK.
'CAUSE ULTIMATELY YOU ALL WILL BE THE ONES WHO WERE, UH, SIGNING OFF ON THIS.
SO, UH, HERE TODAY, UH, TO TALK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT GETTING SOME DIRECTION,
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UH, WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, SIGN REQUIREMENTS, SHAPES, SIZES, TEXTURES, MATERIALS, LANDSCAPING WITHOUT OVERWHELMING YOU WITH TOO MUCH DETAIL BECAUSE YOU CAN REALLY GET BOGGED DOWN IN THAT.UH, BUT THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF, OF THIS.
UM, UM, THIS MEETING TODAY, UM, OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, IN MAY, WE'LL COME BACK, UH, WITH, UH, SOME INITIAL DESIGNS THAT WE'RE GONNA PRESENT TO BRENTWOOD STAFF FOR REVIEW AND FEEDBACK.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THOSE AND, AND FINALIZING THINGS TO PRESENT TO YOU SOME OPTIONS, UH, IN JUNE.
UH, SO THAT ULTIMATELY YOU ALL CAN HOPEFULLY DECIDE ON ONE THAT YOU REALLY LIKE.
UM, AND THEN FROM THERE, UH, WE WILL MOVE ON WITH THE PROCESS KIND OF TO THE, THE PHASE TWO, WHICH IS WHERE YOU ACTUALLY GO TOWARDS STARTING TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT.
UH, WE'LL DO ANY KIND OF FINAL DESIGN PLANS WORKING WITH TDOT.
'CAUSE IN SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS, TDOT'S GONNA HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THEM.
UM, AND, UH, ULTIMATELY THEN GO TO CONSTRUCTION.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS.
SO, AS WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, HERE'S SOME OF YOUR CURRENT BRENTWOOD SIGNAGE, UH, THE ONE ON THE RIGHT, UH, EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH, UH, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS, IS A NEWER, UH, THAT ACTUALLY I THINK WAS, I THINK THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PART BUILT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THERE.
SO, UH, BUT THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT YOU HAVE.
OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE YOUR, YOUR STANDARD SEAT OF LIMIT SIGNS THAT ARE, THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GATEWAY ENTRY SIGNS.
UM, THE BRENTWOOD TENNESSEE SIGN, YOU SEE, UH, ABOUT 5 65 CONCORD ROAD.
I WAS ACTUALLY DRIVING AT WILSON PIKE LAST NIGHT TO MY DAUGHTER'S SOCCER PRACTICE AND NOTICED THE, UH, THE ONE THERE ON WILSON PIKE IS KIND OF STARTING TO BOW A LITTLE BIT TOO.
SO, UH, IT'S, UH, TIME TO TIME TO GET THOSE THINGS UPDATED.
SO, UM, UH, BUT ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU GOT OUT THERE.
UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE, HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR, FOR MANY YEARS, PARTICULARLY THE ONE ON THE RIGHT, AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW.
UM, THE, THE MAP HERE, KIND OF SHOWING YOU THAT THE BRENTWOOD 2030 PLAN, UH, ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED SOME, UH, GATEWAY LOCATIONS.
UH, YOU'VE GOT THE EXISTING ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT WERE, UH, IDENTIFIED AS WELL.
FRANKLIN ROAD ROAD AT HICK CREEK BOULEVARD, UH, CONCORD ROAD, WILSON PIKE, AND THEN FRANKLIN ROAD, CONCORD ROAD AS WELL.
UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF THE LOCATIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT, AT DOING THIS, UH, AS BEING GUIDED BY THE BRENTWOOD 2030 PLAN.
SO THIS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE.
IT'S, UH, BUT, BUT I WANTED, WANTED YOU TO SEE KIND OF WHAT'S OUT THERE.
NOW, THESE ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE VARIOUS, UH, ENTRYWAYS TO NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
UH, THE ONE, THE TOP RIGHT BRENTWOOD ACADEMY, JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, BRENTWOOD ACADEMY.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S A NEW STU NEW SIGN THAT THEY HAVE, UH, RECENTLY PUT IN THERE.
UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF STACK GRANITE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, UH, FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS.
UH, BUT THIS IS REALLY JUST KIND OF INTENDED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF KIND OF WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW IN TERMS OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IN ADDITION TO THE SIGNAGE THAT YOU HAVE, UH, THAT'S RELATED TO, UH, THE CITY AND THE WELCOME SIGNS IN GENERAL.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN DAVIDSON COUNTY.
TECHNICALLY THAT'S DAVIDSON COUNTY, BRENTWOOD AND THAT, YEAH, THEY'RE BRENTWOODS ONE OF THOSE.
UM, SO THIS SLIDE I'M NOT GONNA SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON, AS YOU CAN SEE WHY, UH, THE, THE POINT OF THIS, UH, SLIDE HERE IS REALLY JUST LET YOU KNOW THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH THE TENNESSEE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, AND THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD, UH, THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WORK WITHIN AS WELL.
UH, THERE MAY BE TIMES WHENEVER IT, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF GATEWAY SIGN, AND, AND, AND PARTICULARLY THIS RELATES MORE TO THE SIGN, MORE THAN THE SIZE OF THE SIGN, MORE THAN ANYTHING.
UH, YOU ALL WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, THE VIDEO BOARDS FOR THE SCHOOLS.
UH, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO GO BEYOND WHAT THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD ALLOWS, WE HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THOSE, WITHIN THOSE REQUIREMENTS, AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE DO THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS, LIKE I SAID, WHEN STATE ROUTES ARE INVOLVED, UH, STATE RIGHT OF WAY, UH, WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH TDOT.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED COORDINATING WITH TDOT AND LETTING 'EM KNOW WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THEM, UH, SO THAT THEY'RE THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO MAKE SURE WE MEET ANY REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE.
UH, SO THAT'S, AGAIN, DON'T WANNA GO INTO A TON OF DETAIL HERE, BUT JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, UH, KIND OF THAT, THAT WE'RE HERE TO KIND OF GUIDE YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS WELL.
UM, SO LANDSCAPING AND MAINTENANCE, UH, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'LL BE REQUIRED BY A TDOT IS DEPENDING ON, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING AND THE TYPE OF SIGN AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
UH, ANYTHING THAT'S, FOR EXAMPLE, COULD BE ON TDOT RIGHT AWAY, UH, WILL STILL HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD.
UH, WE WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT A MAINTENANCE PLAN, UH, TO TDOT, UH, FROM THE CITY, UM,
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AND, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE SIGNS ARE LOCATED IN AN AREA WHERE MAINTENANCE CAN BE SAFELY PERFORMED.SO, SO JUST SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT, THAT WE'VE GOTTA GET INTO.
UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS THE LANDSCAPING SIDE OF THINGS AND MAINTAINING THE SIGNS IS ALWAYS SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERING, UH, WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH DES DESIGN PROCESS.
'CAUSE ULTIMATELY WE DON'T WANNA CREATE A, A HEADACHE FOR YOU ALL IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO KEEP THOSE THINGS UP, UM, RIGHT AWAY.
I MENTIONED THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT, JUST A, A A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL ON THIS SIDE OF THINGS.
UH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, TDOT RIGHT OF WAY, UH, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY SIGNAGE STAYS OUTSIDE OF THE CLEAR, CLEAR ZONE, WHAT THEY CALL THE CLEAR ZONE.
UM, BASICALLY IT'S AN AREA THAT, UH, THAT IS, THERE'S A LIKELIHOOD OF A SIGN BEING STRUCK IF A, IF A CAR WERE TO DEPART THE ROADWAY, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA.
UM, AND, UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T RESTRICT ANY SITE DISTANCE AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE PULLING UP TO AN INTERSECTION, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A SIGN THERE, WE CAN'T, UH, CREATE ISSUES WITH TERMS OF BEING, BE ABLE TO SEE DOWN THE ROAD, UH, FAR ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO KNOW IF YOU CAN SAFELY, UH, UH, PULL OUT OF THE, UH, THE INTERSECTION.
UM, THE, UH, CITY OF BRENTWOOD YOU SEE ARE COMMERCIAL SIGNAGE.
UM, IT REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 10 FEET, UH, FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, THAT'S TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL SIGNAGE.
UH, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT WE'RE STILL, OUR INTENT IS TO, TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES AS WELL.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN'T BE LOCATED WITHIN PUBLIC UTILITY OR DRAINAGE EASEMENTS 'CAUSE THAT CAN CAUSE MAINTENANCE ISSUES, NOT JUST FOR THE SIGN, BUT FOR
OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THERE.
UM, SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT TO SEE? NOW, THESE ARE SIGNS THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT IN BRENTWOOD.
UH, THESE ARE SIGNS THAT ARE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT, THAT WE'VE GONE AND PULLED.
JUST REALLY JUST TO KIND OF GET YOU ALL THINKING ABOUT, UM, SOME IDEAS AND THINGS.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR YOU TO TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, BY THE, YOU KNOW, INCH OF THE LETTERS.
UM, BUT WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO SEE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, A LITTLE BIT INTERNALLY IS YOU ALL HAVE THE BRENTWOOD CITY SEAL.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S IN, THAT'S INCLUDED RIGHT NOW ON YOUR, ON YOUR SIGNAGE THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SEE CONTINUE, UH, HERE, OR ARE YOU OPEN TO THAT NOT BEING PART OF THAT SIGN? CURIOUS ABOUT THAT ONE.
THAT'S ONE QUESTION THAT CAME UP, BUT, BUT I'M ALSO JUST CURIOUS TO HEAR FROM OTHERS WHAT, WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS.
JUST ONE OF THE THINGS, IF YOU GO TO THE OLD SIGN, I KNOW IT'S OLD, BUT IT DID STAND OUT.
I THINK THAT'S THE WAY MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING.
BUT I WANT SOMETHING IN STONE THAT I CAN SEE CLEARLY.
I, IT IS GOOD TO HAVE THE DECORATION AROUND, BUT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER TO REALLY BE ABLE TO SEE BRENTWOOD, TENNESSEE, TO ME IS IMPORTANT.
BRENTWOOD ACADEMY, THAT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE WITH THEM.
BUT THAT, THAT'S, SO SOMETIMES STONE, THE, THE NAME CAN JUST BLEND IN TOO MUCH TO THE STONE.
WHAT MIGHT BE TOO HARD TO MAKE THE DETAILS.
I I PERSONALLY THINK IT, THE SEAL'S GOT A LOT OF DETAILS.
THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS IN IT.
AND, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S JUST, IT'S GOT A LOT OF DETAIL.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT CAN GET LOST IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I WOULD, I WOULD LEAN AWAY PERSONALLY FROM THE, THE SEAL BEING ON THERE BECAUSE IT, IT, IT WOULD BE HARD, LIKE IF WE'RE GOING IN A NON-PAIN NON WOODEN WAY AND MORE IN A STONE WAY, IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO TRY AND INCORPORATE THAT, I WOULD THINK, UM, INTO THE SIGN.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT THESE, A, A COUPLE OF 'EM LOOK LIKE, I MEAN THE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE MONOLITH WOODS METAL CLEAN ONE IS, WHERE THAT IS.
BUT IT ALMOST LOOKS MORE LIKE A COLORADO OR A MOUNTAINY KIND OF THING.
I THINK MAYBE WHAT APPEALS PERSONALLY TO ME ON SOME OF THE, THE GRANITE STACK STONE LOOK IS IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF ALREADY FOUND NATURALLY HERE IN THE, IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE.
SO I THINK TRYING TO INCORPORATE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE OF A, A NATURAL LOOK AND NOT TRYING TO BRING SOMETHING IN SO DIFFERENT, UM, THAT THAT IS, IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY.
AND TO ANN'S EARLIER POINT ABOUT THE, THE ONE SIGN HAVING NOT LOOKED THAT WAY IN A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, THESE SIGNS DON'T ALWAYS GET ALL THE CARE AND FEEDING THAT THEY MIGHT LIKE.
AND I, AND I KNOW BOTH AS BEING IN BRENTWOOD, BUT ALSO AS A, AS A BUSINESS WITH SIGNS, SIGN MAINTENANCE IS A BIG DEAL.
AND SOME SIGNS AGE MUCH MORE GRACEFULLY THAN OTHERS.
SO, UH, PAINTED SURFACES COLORED SIGNS.
YOU KNOW, THEY LOOK GREAT DAY ONE AND THEY DO NOT AGE AS GRACEFULLY WHERE, AND, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT WHERE LIKE, I LIKE THE PREVIOUS DISPLAY OF THE SIGNS YOU FOUND IN BRENTWOOD, WAY BETTER THAN THAT DISPLAY OF SIGNS YOU FOUND IN THE GENERAL WATER.
AND THOSE ARE JUST INTENDED TO GIVE YOU YEAH.
WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS I THINK OUR COMMUNITY GAVE US A TEMPLATE ALREADY IN THE SENSE THAT
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I, I THINK GOING THROUGH AND HAVING SOMETHING, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE WHAT PEOPLE, IF THEY ENVISION BRENTWOOD, WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR THINKS WE LOOK LIKE.AND I DON'T REALLY FEEL JUST A HUGE NEED TO GET VERY FAR FROM THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE PRIVATE SECTORS KIND OF CAPTURED OUR IMAGE PRETTY EFFECTIVELY.
AND IF WE CAN TAKE AND LEVERAGE OFF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE, I MEAN, NOT AS MUCH THE BROWN BRICKS, WE CAN SEE THE PREDOMINANCE AS, UH, COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN SAID OF THE, THE GRANITE, YOU KNOW.
UM, AND I THINK WE'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE STONE THAT YOU FIND AROUND HERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, A LOT OF STONE THAT'S BEEN USED IN CONSTRUCTION.
IF WE HAVE A WAY TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S DURABLE THAT ISN'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GO OUT AND FIND, YOU KNOW, A, A NATIVE MASON TO STACK STONE IN 1860S STYLE.
BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO CA CAPTURE THAT LOOK IN A WAY THAT AFTER A CAR HITS, IF THERE'S A CAR ACCIDENT THAT'S EASY TO REBUILD, YOU KNOW, THAT IS MAINTAINABLE, THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, BANGING OUR DOOR DOWN AND THEN THAT DOESN'T CAUSE HARM TO A MOTORIST WHO MAY HAVE LOST CONTROL OF THEIR VEHICLE.
I KNOW YOU SAID TDOT HAS STANDARDS AROUND ALL THIS.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO BALANCE THAT LOOK WITH THE PRACTICAL NATURE AND MAINTAINABILITY.
I THINK, I THINK THE TEMPLATE'S RIGHT HERE.
YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE VERSION OF THAT.
THAT, THAT, THE ONE THAT SAYS STACK GRAND, THAT'S THE SECOND ONE.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHERE IT SAYS SOMETHING HILLS UP THERE.
I CAN'T READ WHAT IT SAYS, BUT
BUT THAT, THAT'S WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE IT THE THIRD ONE FROM THE RIGHT TOP WOODWARD HILLS.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BURY THE NAME IN THE STONE SOMETIMES AND IT'S LOST WHERE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT.
IF YOU HAVE THAT SMOOTH PIECE, YOU CAN STILL SEE IT.
THAT'S, I WANNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
SO, AND, AND, AND THE ONES THAT SHOWED FROM MARYLAND FARMS, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE THAT BRENTWOOD IN IT.
CAN WE SEE THAT SLIDE? YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY THIS IS, UH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.
NOW IS THAT, IS THAT OUR CITY SLIDE OR IS THAT THAT NO, THAT'S OKAY.
IT WAS A DEVELOP AND THERE'S ONE ACROSS THE STREET THAT YEAH.
AND THE KROGER SIDE NEXT TO THE FIRST HORIZON.
AND THERE'S ONE OF THOSE RIGHT UP BY THE DEALERSHIP ON I, WE REALLY, THAT THAT IS A VERY NICE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
I LIKE SEEING THE, UM, SEAL IN THERE.
'CAUSE I DO LIKE THE COLORS AND WE WORKED A LONG TIME ON IT.
HOW IS IT, HOW IS THE SEAL PUT INTO IT? WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO DIG INTO ON THE DESIGN SIDE TO SEE HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE THE SEAL.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING INTERESTING.
I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, WE CHANGED THE SEAL.
FUTURE CITY COMMISSIONS COULD CHANGE THE SEAL.
HOW, HOW EASY IS IT TO, TO CHANGE THE SIGN? CAN WE DO IT IF THE STONE IS STILL THERE? IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE CONSTRUCTION MECHANISM AND HOW IT'S DONE.
IF IT'S, IF IT'S, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT IS, UH, ENGRAVED INTO THE STONE, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT'S GONNA BE EASY TO CHANGE.
IF IT'S MORE OF SOMETHING THAT IS A, A LOT, A LOT OF THE SIGNS WE, WE SEE INCORPORATE METAL, LIKE THE BRENTWOOD ACADEMY SIGN, RIGHT.
IT'S INSERT METAL HAS KIND OF BECOME THE NEWER VERSION OF THE WOOD BECAUSE METAL IS MUCH MORE EASIER TO MAINTAIN.
CAN THAT, THAT COULD BE CHANGED, COULD BE LIKE AN INSERT THAT, UH, IT COULD USE THAT WORD LOOSELY, BUT IT COULD BE REMOVED AND, AND REPLACED.
BECAUSE I THINK THE LONG TERM LOOK OF THE, IF YOU'RE GONNA USE COLORS, YOU SURE DON'T WANT THEM FADING AND LOOKING BAD WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THEM PRETTY EASILY.
AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I THINK WITH THE SEAL, WITH THE COLORS IT HAS, IF YOU WANT TO USE THE COLOR, YOU KNOW, IT HAS THE DARK GREEN AND THE ORANGES, THOSE ARE COLORS THAT ARE GENERALLY, THEY'RE GONNA BE TEND TO LEND TOWARD FADING RIGHT.
CAN, CAN WE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THE COLORS EITHER.
YOU CAN ALSO DO THE SEAL WITHOUT ANY COLOR.
THOSE ARE OPTIONS DONE PLACES.
JUST WE WANT, CAN WE GO BACK ONE SECOND TO THOSE? THE ASSORTMENT OF, OF THE PICTURES YOU HAD, UH, THIS ONE HERE? YEAH.
NOW FOR INSTANCE, I'M NOT SAYING I'M LOCKED IN ON THIS, THE BOTTOM LINE, THE THIRD FROM THE, THE ONE ON THE FAR RIGHT.
UHHUH,
HOW ABOUT THIS ONE HERE? I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANYTHING MORE ORNATE THAN THAT.
AND THAT WOULD FIT IN AREAS THAT MAYBE AREN'T SO LARGE WHERE THAT WOULD BE LESS LIKELY TO IMPEDE SIGHT LINE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
DO YOU HAVE, AND I'M NOT SAYING IDENTICAL, BUT SOMETHING SURE.
ALONG THOSE LINES, DO YOU HAVE PHOTOS OF THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE ARE THINKING OR WE'RE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING THESE GATEWAY SIGNS? WELL, YOU HAVE THE EXISTING LOCATIONS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE THE, THE ONE JUST RIGHT IN IN THOSE, JUST REMOVING THOSE AND PUTTING THEM THERE.
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WOULD, THOSE WOULD BE REPLACED THERE.AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, NO, I THINK THESE ARE THE LOCATIONS.
THE ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE, IN THE, UH, IN THE PLAN.
BUT YOU'VE GOT THE FRANKLIN ROAD, OLD HICKORY BOULEVARD, THERE'S OH, AT FRANKLIN ROAD AT THE CITY LIMITS.
BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT WOULD BE JUST SOUTH THERE.
SO IS THERE SPACE FOR THE UP THERE? WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS.
WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO, AS PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, ALL THOSE AREAS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ROOM WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO MAKE SURE AGAIN, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THE CLEAR ZONE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE ESTABLISHED.
'CAUSE THIS'S A STATE ROUTE MM-HMM
SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE STILL HAVE TO DETERMINE.
MIGHT BE DIFFICULT IN THAT LOCATION.
UM, SO, BUT THESE ARE JUST THE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND IN ADDITION TO YOUR, YOUR OTHER EXISTING LOCATIONS THAT YOU HAVE MM-HMM
DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE MARYLAND FARMS ONE COMMISSIONER SPEARS? JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK THE, THE ONE ON THE WEST SIDE IS NOT OURS.
I THINK SO TOO MIGHT BECAUSE THERE WAS A CAR WRECK WITH IT AND WE HAD TO FIX IT OR SOMETHING.
YEAH, I DO KNOW WE MADE A REPAIR.
TODD AND I WERE, WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
SO I THINK THAT ONE'S OURS, THE OTHER ONE'S NOT.
SO DO WE HAVE A PICTURE OF, I'M SORRY, THE, UM, THE ONE THAT SAYS BRENTWOOD, THAT'S AT, I'M SORRY, I SAID MARYLAND FARMS. UM, LET'S SEE WHERE ELSE? THAT ONE? YES, THERE WE GO.
SO DO WE, DO WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE, THE MIRROR ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET? IS IT SIMILAR TO THIS? PRETTY CLOSE.
UH, YEAH, IT, IT'S, I IT'S A MIRROR IMAGE.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT SORT OF AS A MM-HMM
POTENTIAL TEMPLATE THAT WE CAN, THAT'S SOMEBODY BUILT FOR YOU.
SO
AND IT SEEMS TO BE STURDY THAT ONE.
SO THAT IS, THAT IS A, A LITTLE BIT LARGER SIGN, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY, AND I, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A MINUTE, BUT THERE ARE COSTS INVOLVED, RIGHT.
LARGER THE SIGN, THE MORE MONEY YOU SPEND, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IF, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, AREAS WHERE I'M THINKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, UH, UH, COMING UP NORTHBOUND ON WILSON PI, AS YOU'RE GETTING TOWARDS SMITH PARK, YOU'VE GOT THE SIGN THERE MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ROOM FOR THAT IN TERMS OF ESTABLISHING, MAINTAINING THE CLEAR ZONES.
IF WE'RE NOT, WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE SOME, A SCALED DOWN VERSION, A SCALED DOWN VERSION OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
WE DO, LIKE IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT LOCATION, WALK THE SQUARE, BUT NOT THE LOPING MARK.
AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WILL BE UP TO US TO, TO, TO HELP YOU FIGURE OUT.
BUT YEAH, BECAUSE YOU WANNA LOOK AT HOME AND THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT FINDS ITSELF.
AND, AND CONFIGURATION DOESN'T ALWAYS FIT IN EVERY SPOT.
J JUST, AND THIS ONE'S ALREADY DONE.
IF IT WOULD SAY LIKE THE OTHER SIDE SAYS BRENTWOOD WITH TENNESSEE, TENNESSEE TO MAKE IT NOT, SOMEBODY WOULDN'T THINK THAT'S JUST A SUBDIVISION OR SOMETHING ELSE, DEPENDING WHERE IT'S PLACED.
IF YOU COULD GET THE TENNESSEE PART IN THERE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE SEAL SORT OF LET 'EM KNOW THAT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION.
AND I KNOW BRENTWOOD IN TENNESSEE TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE, SO THAT'S SOMETHING HE'S GOTTA WORK ON TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THOUGH, AND THE SIGN ON THE RIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UN UN, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD.
I THINK IT ONLY KEEPS WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS THAT DUMB, I HOPE THEY KEEP POUNDING
I WAS GONNA SAY IF BRENTWOOD ENGLAND, BRENTWOOD ENGLAND.
WHICH IS I THINK SOME OF THE, THE INFLUENCE ON THE EXISTING SEAL.
AND I ASSUME THAT'S A CONCRETE MATERIAL THAT THAT'S EMBOSSED OR DO THEY MOLD IT? THAT YEAH, YEAH.
THAT, THAT IS, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE EMBOSSED KIND OF.
DO THEY DO IT AFTER THEY, FOR THE MOLD OR TYPICALLY, YEAH, TYPICALLY THEY'LL DO THAT, THAT AS I, I'M NOT THE SIGN EXPERT.
BUT, BUT YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT THEY ESTABLISHED THAT, OBVIOUSLY THE SURROUNDING SUPPORT STRUCTURE.
AND THEN THAT PIECE IS A SEPARATE PIECE THAT'S MOLDED, THAT'S MOLDED.
SO A SEAL WOULD BE EASY TO PUT IN THAT DESIGN, ESPECIALLY ON THE BOTTOM OR THE TOP.
I WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT, NOT COLORED, JUST A GRAY SCALE THAT IS, AND FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY, THEY USED A BLACKING B AGENT.
THAT'S BUT NOT EVEN A PAINT TO DO THAT.
I, A LOT OF PATIOS ARE DONE WITH STAIN, CONCRETE STAIN, WHATEVER.
SO THAT ONCE THEY DO THE MOLD BRING SAMPLES, THEY'VE GOT THE SEAL.
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SORRY.YOU COULD BRING VARIOUS SAMPLES.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE TALKING ABOUT IT AND SEEING IT ARE OFTEN DIFFERENT.
WE CAN, WE CAN CHECK INTO IF THAT'S, I MEAN, HOW THE SEAL WOULD LOOK.
SO WE'RE GONNA MOCK UP, RIGHT.
GONNA MOCK UP WHAT IT, WHAT THESE WILL LOOK LIKE.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OPTIONS, RIGHT.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA LOOK INTO THAT IN DEVELOPING SOME OPTIONS BASED ON THIS FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING EVEN ON CONCRETE STAIN.
CONCRETE STAIN DOES FADE AS WELL.
SO WE WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT.
AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIX CONCRETE STAIN.
YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE ENTIRE, IF WE DID A CONCRETE STAIN FOR COLOR SEAL, WE WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THE ENTIRE INSERT OF THE SEAL TO REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
PARTICULARLY IF YOU START TALKING ABOUT GREENS AND REDS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
WHICH WOULD BE A MASONRY ISSUE AND LOTS OF MAINTENANCE AND EXPENSE, CERTAINLY SOME MASON.
SO WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY GETTING INTO.
I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK NOBODY'S LEANING TOWARDS THE SAMPLES THAT HAD BRICK AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, AND CONCRETE.
I'VE HEARD A LOT OF, A LOT OF MORE JUST THE GRANITE AND THE, AND THEN LIKE THE SMOOTH CONCRETE.
I THINK, UM, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS FAIRLY SIMPLE.
I DON'T, I'M, I'M NOT SOLD ON PUTTING THE SEAL ON THERE OR NOT.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND IF IT'S A METAL THING AND IT'S JUST CUTOUTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT MM-HMM
I'D LOVE TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD TRANSLATE.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN VERY EASILY DO THE COLORED VERSION AS IF IT WERE MORE LIKE WHAT BRENTWOOD ACADEMY HAD AND IT'S MORE METAL AND BLACK AND WHITE.
I'D KIND OF LIKE TO SEE JUST A MOCKUP OF, YOU KNOW, A DIGITAL MOCKUP OF THAT, UM, ON THERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I, I WASN'T THINKING MYSELF ABOUT THE COLORED VERSION.
I WAS THINKING THAT IT WOULD JUST LITERALLY BE LIKE THAT BLACK AND STAIN WHATEVER.
'CAUSE UM, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD LAST MUCH, MUCH LONGER.
IF YOU DID SOME SORT OF COLORED VERSION, YOU'D ALMOST HAVE TO DO A SEPARATE PLAQUE TYPE STEEL SEAL.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD LOOK GOOD WITH RIGHT.
BRENT WOULD BE YOU THE STAINED CONCRETE.
SO, WELL, WE, WE CAN PLAY AROUND WITH THE SEAL AND, AND, AND DIFFERENT OPTIONS, LIKE I SAID, TO GIVE YOU ALL, SOME OPTIONS THERE.
CAN YOU SHOW US SOME WITHOUT A SEAL TOO? YEAH, YEAH.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE YOU A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE.
SO I WANT TO COVER A COUPLE THINGS HERE.
ONE, WE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COST HERE, OBVIOUSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COSTS, YOU KNOW, VARY DEPENDING ON THE SIZE GENERALLY SPEAKING.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 2 75 TO $400 PER SQUARE FOOT.
UM, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A RANGE THERE TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON MATERIALS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF ARTWORK, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT.
SO JUST, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS TO GIVE YOU TODAY OBVIOUSLY, BUT I JUST WANTED, WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA OF THE RANGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, AND THEN FOLLOW THAT UP.
HERE'S SOME IDEAS OF, OF SOME OF THE SIGNS AND, AND GENERALLY SOME RANGES OF COSTS BASED ON THAT 2 75 TO $400.
WE DID NOT TALK TO BRENTWOOD ACADEMY TO FIND OUT WHAT IT COSTS THEM TO, TO BUILD THAT SIGN.
THIS IS JUST A, AN ESTIMATE THAT'S NOT SURPRISE ME, THAT'S BASED ON IT.
YOU CAN SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY ON SIGNS IS THE POINT.
UM, AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON THOSE MATERIALS.
SO, WE'LL, WE WILL, UM, AS, AS WE START TO DEVELOP SOME OPTIONS AND THINGS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO, TO HOPEFULLY, UM, AND, AND REALLY IT'S, IT REALLY COMES ONCE WE GET FURTHER INTO THE DESIGN PROCESS, THIS, THE PHASE TWO IS WHEN WE CAN START TO REALLY NARROW DOWN INTO THE EXACT QUANTITIES AND THINGS, THAT'S WHEN WE CAN REALLY GET AN INFORMED COST ESTIMATE FOR YOU.
WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE STUFF WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
I THINK WE'VE HEARD PRETTY LOUD AND CLEAR HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S ACTUALLY YOU CAN USE REAL ROCK.
GRANTED THERE ARE VENEERS YOU CAN USE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEING NATURAL TENNESSEE.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE STONES THAT'S USED A LOT, AND I DON'T THINK IT FITS HERE IN, IN, IN BRENTWOOD NECESSARILY WITH THE, THE KIND OF THE LOOK AND FEEL YOU ALL HAVE GOING, BUT CRAB ORCHARD STONE IS NATIVE TO TENNESSEE.
UH, OVER IN CRAB ORCHARD, TENNESSEE, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN I 40, YOU'VE DRIVEN THROUGH THERE, BUT AT SOME VERY DIFFERENT LOOKING ROCK.
IT'S NOT, GRANTED, IT'S MORE OF A, A VERY COLORATION AND IT'S, UH, PROBABLY NOT GONNA FIT HERE, BUT IT IS A NATURAL STONE.
I MEAN, IT IS LITERALLY NATURAL.
IT'S, IT'S THE ONLY ROCK THAT YOU CAN ONLY FIND IN THAT AREA WHAT KIND OF STAY WITH WHAT, UH, WE HAVE AND MAKE SURE IT'S TIMELESS.
SO, UM, SO I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SOME GOOD GUIDANCE FROM YOU THERE ON THAT, UM, LANDSCAPING.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T TALKED AS MUCH ABOUT.
JUST A QUICK COMMENT BACK ON THE DIFFERENT VENEERS.
I DO KNOW THAT SOME DIFFERENT FINISHES ON 'EM, SO TO SPEAK, UH, WEATHER DIFFERENTLY.
AND I THINK, UH, AT LEAST MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN SOMETIMES THE ONES WITH MORE VARIETY IN THE FINISH DOESN'T SHOW CONTAMINATION OR WEATHERING AS MUCH AS ONES THAT HAVE A VERY, VERY CONSISTENT FINISH, SO TO SPEAK.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, SOME OF 'EM HAD A, A LIGHT CONSISTENT FINISH.
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HAD A QUITE A BIT OF VARIETY TO 'EM.SO I JUST WANNA HAVE SOME IDEA IN TERMS OF MAINTAINABILITY, IF Y'ALL HAVE, LIKE, IF THE, THE SUPPLIER OR IF, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF WHAT TENDS TO NOT SHOW WATERMARKS OR, OR TENDS TO SHOW A LOT OF, UH, I GUESS ENVIRONMENTAL INCONSISTENCY OVER TIME.
I, I, I THINK, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS GUYS ARE JUST, WHO NOT BE OUT THERE POWER WASHING THEM
I HATE TO PUT UP THE, UH, STONE EQUIVALENT OF WHITE CARPET.
AND YOU'VE GOT GREEN STREAKS RUNNING DOWN IT THAT YOU'VE GOTTA CONSTANTLY GO OUT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, POWER, POWER WASH OFF.
UM, ON THE LANDSCAPING SIDE OF THINGS, UH, THERE, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN GO TO ALL LEVELS WITH LANDSCAPING, RIGHT? UH, WE, WE KNOW THAT FROM JUST OWNING OUR HOMES, RIGHT.
I THINK WE'RE, YOU CAN HEAR US SAYING WE DON'T WANNA PUT OUR PUBLIC WORKS TO MORE, THAT'S WHAT I CAN, THAT'S WHAT I, MAINTENANCE.
THERE HAS BEEN A, ALSO SOME OF THE LOCATION MIGHT DICTATE WHAT WE COULD EVEN PUT THERE, SO.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME POSSIBLE NEEDED FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE OF WHERE ASSIGNED LOCATION MIGHT BE, BUT I THINK YOU'RE HEARING WE ERR ON THE SIDE OF LOWER MAINTENANCE FOR OUR STAFF.
SOME OF THESE THINGS I WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN EVERY YEAR.
AND THE PROBLEM IS, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY DON'T GET MAINTAINED OR THEY DON'T GET MAINTAINED IN A TIMELY MANNER, PARTICULARLY THE SPRING SEASON RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN CARUTHERS, A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF PRETTY MEDIAN DOWN THERE FLOWERS AND THERE'S A LOT OF MAINTENANCE TO US.
I SIT THERE AT THE LIGHT AND ADMIRE THEM AND THINK, BOY, THAT LOOKS SO NICE, BUT SOMEBODY'S TAKING CARE OF 'EM WELL.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S FRANKLIN, I IT'S, AND I DON'T MEAN THAT DEROGATORY.
I THINK IT'S THE BUSINESS, RIGHT? IT IS, IT'S PART, IT'S PART OF THE BUSINESS ORGANIZATION TO RUN DOWN THROUGH THERE.
I KNOW KRISTEN PROBABLY KNOWS THAT THERE'S A LOT, RIGHT? YEAH.
NO, NO CITY WANTS TO TAKE ON SOMETHING THAT'S SUBSTANTIAL.
SO I THINK I, I THINK I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO, SO NEXT STEPS, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK, UH, WE'RE GOING TO THE DRAWING BOARD, NOT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
WE HAVEN'T DRAWN ANYTHING YET.
UH, WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE DRAWING BOARD, UH, TAKING IN YOUR, UH, FEEDBACK HERE TODAY.
THAT'S BEEN VERY, VERY VALUABLE.
UM, AND FIRST WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF, UH, TO KIND OF NARROW SOME THINGS DOWN AND THEN PRESENT TO YOU ALL IN JUNE, UH, KIND OF WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK.
UM, IF IT'S IN JUNE, IF YOU'RE LIKE, HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T SAY, BOY, Y'ALL REALLY MISSED THE MARK, UH,
BUT, UH, Y YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT TIME, UH, TO, TO MAKE REVISIONS AT THAT POINT AS WELL.
'CAUSE ULTIMATELY, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL WANT YOU ALL TO SIGN OFF ON IT AND THEN EXTEND JULY.
WE, WE WANNA GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS THAT, WHAT WE'RE CALLING A COURTESY REVIEW HERE, BUT ULTIMATELY THE, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BELIEVE IT SIGNS OFF ON, AND AGAIN, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT OVERALL BRANDING THEME OF SOMETHING THAT, SO THIS IS KIND OF AT THE TOP AND SOMETHING THAT CAN CASCADE DOWN.
BECAUSE THE HODGEPODGE OF SIGNS THAT WE HAVE AROUND BRENTWOOD, IT'S JUST SHORT OF CARNIVAL LOOKING IN SOME PLACES.
WELL, THAT'S A GREAT POINT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SO MANY CITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GO THROUGH A GATEWAY SIGNAGE PROCESS LIKE THIS, THEN WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT SPURS ON THEN A OVERALL WAY FINDING SIGNAGE PROGRAM WHERE YOU ESTABLISH, YOU KNOW, STREET SIGN LOOK AND FEEL.
I MEAN, I MEAN YOU HAVE SOME OF THAT NOW, BUT, BUT YOU WANT IT TO BUILD, TO BUILD ON WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
AND WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OUT AND REPLACE IT ALL NOW, BUT AS EXACTLY NEW SIGNS, UH, THEN WE HAVE THAT BRANDING THEME, UH, THAT WE CAN GO OFF OF.
UM, ULTIMATELY, UM, SO KIND OF, UH, WHERE THIS IS HEADED OBVIOUSLY IS WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT I CALL THE FUND PROCESS, RIGHT? UH, THIS IS THE FUND, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK AND FEEL LIKE, AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THEN EVENTUALLY, THEN WE HAVE, THERE'LL BE A DESIGN ELEMENT TO IT THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN TERMS OF ENGINEERING DRAWINGS AND CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS TO GET ULTIMATELY GO TO, TO BIDS AND GET THESE THINGS CONSTRUCTED.
SO, UM, THIS IS JUST, THIS IS, SORRY, THIS IS ONE MORE SLIDE HERE ON THE TDOT SIDE OF THINGS.
SOMETHING WE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO TDOT, UH, CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH IS BASICALLY A LOT OF WHAT YOU ALL ARE GONNA SEE, UH, THAT SHOWS THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS WE'RE DOING, UH, AND MAKE SURE IT MEETS WITHIN THEIR FALLS WITHIN THEIR REGULATIONS AND THINGS.
UM, SO YEAH, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN SOME GUIDANCE FROM TDOT ACTUALLY ON SOME THINGS THAT, THAT WORK WELL AND SOME THINGS THAT DON'T WORK SO WELL.
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OF THE, SOME OF THE, UM, EXAMPLES THEY'VE GIVEN US AREN'T TOO FAR FROM HERE.NOT IN, NOT IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY ACTUALLY, BUT NOT FAR OUTSIDE THIS AREA.
UM, THAT'S WHAT I HAD FOR YOU TODAY.
UH, YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN ME SOME EXCELLENT FEEDBACK.
I THINK, THINK EXACTLY, UH, WHAT WE NEEDED.
BUT UH, ANY OTHER THING YOU ALL WANT TO BRING UP OR JUST WANNA WAIT AND SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH.
AND I'LL LEAVE THESE WITH YOU ALL AS WELL.
STAND UP THIS SECOND MORE PAPER.
WHAT'S THAT? MORE PAPER? I'M SO, YEAH.
WE DEBATED ON WHETHER OR NOT TO BRING THESE TO YOU ALL, BUT, UH, WELL A COUPLE THINGS FOR YOU.
UH, TODD AND I WERE TALKING AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SMALL PEDESTALS AT TOWN CENTER WAY IN FRANKLIN ROAD, THOSE LITTLE SMALL PUZZLES, AND WE THINK THEY GOT THE LOGO ON THEM, DON'T BELIEVE THEY FADED MUCH.
THE MATERIAL HAS HELD UP WELL.
SO WE MAY BORROW FROM IDEAS FROM IT.
AND EVEN THE ONES AT, AT FRANKLIN ROAD AND, AND CHURCH STREET, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'VE FADED MUCH.
THERE'S LITTLE CALCIFICATION AROUND THE EDGE, BUT I THINK THEY'VE HELD UP PRETTY WELL.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE AMAZING MARTIN YATES IS ONE STEP AHEAD OF US AND THE LIGHTS ARE ALREADY DUE TO BE CHANGED OUT NEXT WEEK.
TWO TO 12 INCHES INSTEAD OF EIGHT.