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[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing April 10, 2025 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the April 14th Agenda, the items below will be discussed: TCRS Hazardous Duty Information Type of Account to use for the Racquet Facility Veterans Memorial Discussion This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.I HOPE UH, Y'ALL ENJOYED THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER OUTSIDE.
I THINK WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF WEATHER COMING IN, BUT IT IS BEAUTIFUL RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, APPARENTLY GOOD WEATHER TO DO, UM, WORK ON WILSON PIKE.
I KNOW THAT HELPED PEOPLE A LITTLE SNARLED THIS MORNING.
BETWEEN THAT AND THE INTERSTATE, UH, BOTH TRAFFIC PROBLEMS HAD PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING CONGESTED TODAY.
WE WILL START OFF MONDAY EVENING WITH, UH, POLICE OFFICER SWEARING INS.
WE HAVE MASON LUNDGREN, MAGGIE MCCORD, AND CONNOR SMITH BEING SWORN IN.
WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPERTY THAT'S, I'M NOT SITTING HERE, OR A FOXMAN HALL SUBDIVISION RECALL.
IT'S R TWO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL ON OUR ZONING MAPS.
AND THERE REALLY SHOULD BE OSRD.
I'M NOT SURE THE ORIGIN OF THAT, UH, OF THAT DISCREPANCY, WHETHER IT'S A, A MAPPING OR SCRIBNER'S ERROR, BUT IT EXISTS AND WE FOUND IT AS PART OF THE DR.
THIS IS JUST THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW WHERE THIS IS.
AND THEN APRIL 28TH, WE'LL FINISH UP WITH SECOND AND FINAL READING ON THE CAS CONSENT AGENDA.
WE HAVE THE INSTALLATION OF TWO MEDIAN ISLANDS FOR THE MAGNOLIA VEIL SUBDIVISION THAT TODD HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEIR HOA FOR SOME TIME TO TRY AND GET SOME TRAFFIC CALMING ADDITIONAL MEASURES ON SUNSET ROAD.
AND THEY'VE IDENTIFIED TWO LOCATIONS.
UM, I CAN JUST KIND OF TURN IT OVER TO YOU, LET YOU TALK ABOUT EITHER WAY.
UM, IT'S APPARENT THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT THERE WAS A PLAN FOR TWO ADDITIONAL MEDIAN ISLANDS THAT WERE NEVER CONSTRUCTED ON SUNSET ROAD.
UH, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHERE IT'S CUT OUT FOR THE PLACEMENT OF THOSE.
AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY WERE NEVER DONE BY THE DEVELOPER.
UM, THE HOA REQUESTED WE'RE GOING BACK PROBABLY TWO YEARS NOW.
IT HAS DRUG ON FOR A LONG TIME.
THEY, THEY HAD SOME THINGS THEY HAD TO WORK THROUGH, BUT, UH, WE DID SOME TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THE, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS INDICATED THAT THOSE MIGHT HELP WITH TRAFFIC CALMING, ALTHOUGH KIND OF MARGINALLY, THEY REALLY ONLY REDUCE AVERAGE SPEEDS BY MAYBE THREE OR FOUR MILES AN HOUR, WHICH ISN'T A DRAMATIC, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING INITIATIVE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD REQUEST.
AND, UH, IT IS WITHIN OUR POLICY, SO WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO INSTALL TWO MEDIAN ISLANDS.
ONE IS IN THE EXACT, THAT PARTICULAR ONE IS IN THE EXACT SAME SPOT WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY CUT OUT WAS PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
THE OTHER ONE HAS SHIFTED ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET OR SO BECAUSE OF THAT DRIVEWAY AT 10 63, YOU CAN SEE IT WOULDN'T BE AN IDEAL LOCATION ANY LONGER.
SO WE MOVE IT UP A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH.
UM, THEY WILL LANDSCAPE THEM AT THEIR COST.
THEY WILL MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPE AT THEIR COST.
WE WILL SIMPLY INSTALL THE CURB AND THE, THE FILL AND TURN IT OVER.
SO IF THAT'S TODD, THE STAMPED ASPHALT WILL COME AT A LATER DATE.
THEY WON'T DO THAT ORIGINALLY.
WE HAVE A RESURFACING PROJECT COMING, SO WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT NOW.
AND I'M NOT AS CLEAR ON IF THAT'S A HARD REQUIREMENT.
IT DOES APPEAR THAT IN OTHER AREAS, STAMPED ASPHALT HAS BEEN INSTALLED NEXT TO THOSE MEDIAN ISLANDS.
UM, IT'S VERY COSTLY TO DO THAT AND IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN.
SO, PERSONALLY, I'M INDIFFERENT, BUT I I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE AS FIRM ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA SEE THAT DONE, REGARDLESS ON YOUR STANCE ABOUT THAT.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST WE PUT IT OFF A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THAT ROAD'S GONNA HAVE TO BE RESURFACED IN PROBABLY THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS.
THERE'S NO SENSE IN DOING, UH, PROBABLY 20,000 OR MORE DOLLARS TO STAMP THAT ASPHALT, DO THAT WORK, AND THEN MILL THROUGH IT AND HAVE TO REDO IT.
SO, AND WE PAY FOR THIS $5,000 EACH FOR EACH ISLAND, THE CONSTRUCTION, THEY DO ALL THE LANDSCAPING, AND THEN THEY, THEY HAVE A LANDSCAPE AGREEMENT IN PLACE, UM, THAT WOULD BE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ON MONDAY NIGHT IF APPROVED BY YOU ALL.
AND THAT WILL KIND OF HOLD THEM TO THE MAINTENANCE OF IT WOULD BE, WILL THESE ISLANDS BE IRRIGATED? ARE THEY, UM, NO, NOT PROPOSING TO DO THAT.
THEY DID NOT CHOOSE TO DO THAT.
THAT WOULD BE AT THEIR EXPENSE.
LIGHTING WOULD'VE BEEN AT THEIR EXPENSE.
THEY DIDN'T PROPOSE THAT FOR EITHER.
I, I SEE WHAT YOU SAID WHEN YOU STARTED, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED IF THEY WANT TO DO THIS, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE THE ISLANDS SLOWED THE TRAFFIC DOWN VERY MUCH
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IF YOU STUDY DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF CHARITY, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THOSE TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND SPEEDS THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR AND THERE THERE'S VERY MARGINAL DIFFERENCE, BUT THREE TO FOUR MILES AN HOUR ON AVERAGE.SO THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HURT, BUT THEY CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THE DRAMATIC EFFECT THAT A SPEED HUMP, A SPEED TABLE, A ROUNDABOUT, ALL THOSE OTHER ELEMENTS MIGHT HAVE.
BUT IT IS A PART OF OUR POLICY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY YEAH.
THE NEXT ITEM ON CONSENT AGENDA IS A RESOLUTION ENDORSING AN APPLICATION FOR, UM, FIREHOUSE SUBS PUBLIC SAFETY FOUNDATION GRANT.
AND ACTUALLY IT'S REALLY MORE OF AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE GRANT.
YOU AUTHORIZED THE APPLICATION.
UM, AND WHAT THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE IN THAT WAS THE WORDING THAT SAYS AND IF AWARDED TO ACCEPT.
SO WE DO LIKE TO HAVE YOUR ACCEPTANCE ON THESE THINGS, AND THANKFULLY THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL.
AND FIREHOUSE SUBS IS GONNA GIVE US $8,440 FOR TWO THERMAL IMAGING CAMERAS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, KUDOS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR GOING OUT AND JUST FINDING THAT OPPORTUNITY AND MAKING IT HAPPEN.
I APPRECIATE YOUR AUTHORIZATION.
SO JAY, NOW, NOW LOOKS LOOKING AT THE GIFT FORCE IN THE MOUTH THAT IS OUTSTANDING.
UH, DID WE SELECT THE IMAGING CAMERAS THAT WE WANTED TO BUY WITH THE $8,000? OR DID THEY SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS MONEY AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO FOR WE SELECT THEM.
ON NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE A COMPLAINT FROM A RESIDENT BY THE NAME OF REBECCA MARTINEZ ALLEGING A VIOLATION OF THE BRENTWOOD CODE OF ETHICS SECTION TWO DASH 2 33 B BY COMMISSIONER LITTLE, UM, CITY ATTORNEY AND MYSELF.
WE TOOK SOME TIME TO STUDY THE CITY CODE BECAUSE WE DON'T GET THESE TYPES OF THINGS OFTEN.
FIRST ONE OF THESE THAT I'VE SEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
UH, BUT THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE CODE FOR WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A COMPLAINT SUCH AS THIS.
AND WHEN IT INVOLVES A CITY COMMISSIONER, A COMPLAINT REGARDING ETHICS, THEN IT'S, UH, TURNED OVER TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR DISPOSITION IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
AND IT PROVIDES IN THERE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO DO WHATEVER FACT FINDING IS NEEDED AND PRESENT THAT INFORMATION COMMISSION OBVIOUSLY GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING TO GO ON IN ORDER TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OR TO DETERMINE YET MORE INFORMATION IS NEEDED.
AND SO I SOLICITED, UH, STATEMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER LITTLE AND FROM SARAH VAN WARMER, UH, REGARDING, UM, THE NATURE OF THE ALLEGATION, WHICH WAS, UH, THAT THERE WAS AN ABUSE OF POWER OR AUTHORITY BY COMMISSIONER LITTLE WHEN HE HAD ASKED THE IT DIRECTOR TO RECALL EMAIL MESSAGES OUT OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONER'S INBOXES OUT OF FEAR OF A SUNSHINE VIOLATION BECAUSE HE HAD INADVERTENTLY HIT REPLY.
ALL THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE, THE NATURE OF THE COMPLAINT HERE THAT IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS ALLEGED IN THERE THAT TALK ABOUT STATE STATUTE, AND THEY'RE NOT, NOT REALLY GERMANE TO US.
THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WOULD HAVE TO PURSUE WITH OTHER PARTIES AT THE STATE.
UH, BUT NONETHELESS, MONDAY NIGHT, UH, WE NEED FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THE COMPLAINT, THE MERITS OF THE COMPLAINT, THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU.
AND TODAY OUR GOAL IS REALLY TO TALK ABOUT PROCEDURE, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN MONDAY NIGHT, WHAT SHOULD BE THE, THE FLOW OF THE BEATING.
AND I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE, EVEN THOUGH THE CODE IS FAIRLY QUIET TO EXACTLY HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE CONDUCTED.
THERE'S SOME GENERAL GUIDANCE I THINK THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU.
UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND YOU HAVE READ THE CODE THERE, IT DOESN'T SET FORTH WHAT THE PROCEDURE LOOKS LIKE.
WHAT IT DOES SET FORTH IS THAT THE COMMISSION CAN EITHER, UH, FIND THAT A VIOLATION HAS, HAS OCCURRED, FIND THAT A VIOLATION HAS NOT OCCURRED, OR FIND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INVESTIGATION.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, IT WOULD COME TO ME OR WHOEVER YOU, UM, DESIGNATE TO BE THE ETHICS OFFICER AT THAT POINT.
I HAVE HAD A FEW QUESTIONS ALREADY AS TO WHETHER YOU ALL WILL GET TO ASK QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES BEFORE YOU ON MONDAY NIGHT.
AND, UM, AGAIN, THE CODE IS SILENT, WHAT THE PROCEDURE LOOKS LIKE.
WE, AS JAY SAID, WE HAVE NEVER HAD THIS BEFORE.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION DESIRES TO DO, THAT YOU BE PREPARED TO THEN LET THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS BEEN ACCUSED ALSO ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS IN THAT INSTANCE.
UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, THAT'S REALLY ALL THE GUIDANCE I HAVE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IT, IF IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE FEELING LIKE YOU NEED TO HAVE A QUOTE UNQUOTE HEARING AND THE INTEREST OF DUE PROCESS, AND YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EVENLY WEIGHTED, UM, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN FIND THAT MORE INFORMATION IS NEEDED AND THAT AN INVESTIGATION NEEDS TO BE OPEN, IF THERE'S ANY, AT THAT TIME, THEY WOULD LOOK TO THE ETHICS ETHICS OFFICER CORRECT.
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OF YOUR CHOOSING FOR THE CODE.MAY I ASK A QUESTION? WHO AM I WITNESS ASK QUESTIONS OF, AGAIN, WITHOUT ANY PROCEDURES SPELLED OUT IN THE CODE? SLOW DOWN.
I SAID WITHOUT ANY PROCEDURES SPELLED OUT IN THE CODE, IT WILL BE UP TO THE COMMISSION HOW YOU ALL HANDLE THIS.
WELL, WILL WE BE TAKING A VOTE EVERY TIME SOMEBODY WANTS TO ASK A QUESTION TO SEE IF IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT? THERE'S NO GUIDANCE IN THE CODE.
AGAIN, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF IT LOOKS LIKE YOU NEED TO HAVE A QUOTE UNQUOTE HEARING THAT THAT EITHER BE SET FOR A SPECIAL TIME AND THAT OCCURS SO THAT EVERYONE'S ON NOTICE THAT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
UM, THAT'S JUST MY RECOMMENDATION.
ULTIMATELY, IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION WITH NO GUIDANCE IN THE CODE.
YOU MEAN A SET OF TIME IN THAT, IN THAT MONDAY NIGHT MEETING, NOT A SEPARATE TIME.
AGAIN, AND I HATE TO BE VAGUE.
THE CODE GIVES US NO GUIDANCE WHATSOEVER.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A FULL FLEDGED HEARING THAT IT NEEDS TO BE NOTICED THAT YOU'RE HAVING IT, THAT COMMISSIONER LITTLE AND, AND THE COMMISSION WOULD GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
WELL, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED THAT ETHICS COMPLAINT AGAINST MAYOR GORMAN LAST NIGHT FROM THE ATTORNEYS FOR GOVERNOR'S CLUB.
DO YOU THINK WE CAN HAVE SOME FIRM RULES BY, I MEAN, THEY WANTED IT ON EITHER THIS MONDAY NIGHT OR THE 28TH.
IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE GIVEN THE SERIOUSNESS OF THOSE ALLEGATIONS? I WILL HAVE TO SAY I HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT YET.
UM, WE HAVE THE AGENDA PUBLISHED FOR THE 14TH MEETING.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ADD AT THIS POINT.
UM, NO, WE, WE WOULD NOT DO IT FOR THE 14TH.
AND I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE THE FIRST NIGHT OF OUR NEW CITY MANAGER ATTENDING.
I'M WONDERING IF WE NEED A SPECIAL CALL MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THE 28TH BETWEEN THE 14TH AND THE 28TH, OR, I WOULD LIKE SOME GUIDANCE ON THE TIMING OF THAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, AND I'M NOT EXPECTING YOU TO GIVE AT THIS.
NO, AND I UNDERSTAND AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY STAFF AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MAYOR GORMAN GOT IT.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS TIMING OF WHEN THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
COMMISSIONER DUNN, YOU SEEM TO IN INDICATE SERIOUSNESS OF THE ALLEGATIONS AND, AND PERHAPS A MORE THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.
I WOULD FOLLOW THE CODE JUST AS I HAVE DONE WITH COMMISSIONER LITTLE CORRECT.
AND I WOULD JUST ASK FOR STATEMENTS AND PRESENT THAT TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
AND THEN YOU WOULD TAKE IT FROM THERE IN A MEETING LIKE YOU WILL DO WITH THIS ONE.
AND AGAIN, WITH, AT THAT POINT, WITH THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU BEING A VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED, A VIOLATION HAS NOT OCCURRED, OR MORE INFORMATION OR AN INVESTIGATION IS NEEDED.
THOSE ARE WHAT THE CODE PROVIDES FOR YOU ALL.
NOT A WHOLE LOT OF GUIDANCE, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT AGAIN, AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS JUST FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT.
AND SO, KRISTEN, IF THEY, IF THEY WANTED TO KNOCK IT ALL OUT MONDAY NIGHT, THEY COULD PROCEED TO DISCUSS THE MERITS OF THE COMPLAINT.
THEY COULD ASK QUESTIONS OF COMMISSIONER, LITTLE COMMISSIONER LITTLE WOULD GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.
IF SARAH VAN WARMER QUESTIONS WERE TO BE ASKED OF HER, THEY COULD DO THIS MONDAY NIGHT.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT, THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO MONDAY EVENING? OR DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER? I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
ALSO ON NEW BUSINESS, YOU HAVE THE APPOINTMENT OF THREE MEMBERS TO THE PARK BOARD.
YOU HAVE YOUR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS PRESENTED FROM, UH, IN THE AGENDA PACKET FOR YOU.
AS FAR AS THEIR BACKUP INFORMATION, WE HAVE TWO APPOINTMENTS TO THE LIBRARY BOARD, AND THERE'S A FUTURE APPOINTMENT TO THE LIBRARY BOARD.
SO IT'S JUST FOR INFORMATION ONLY ANNOUNCING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
NOW TO THE FUN PART, LET'S, UH, LET'S TALK WITH LEADERSHIP.
BRENTWOOD DANE, I THINK YOU MADE YOUR YOURSELF AROUND THE ROOM AND INTRODUCED YOURSELF TO THOSE FOLKS.
UM, BUT, UH, DANE FROM LEADERSHIP, BRENTWOOD TEAM, UM,
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TAKE IT OVER AND TELL US WHAT YOU GOT PLANNED FOR WINDY HILLS.YEAH, SO, UH, AGAIN, DANE BURNETT, I'M KIND OF REPRESENTING OUR LEADERSHIP BRENTWOOD TEAM.
UM, WE, UH, PART OF LEADERSHIP BRENTWOOD, WE LIKE TO DO LIKE, IT'S KIND OF A DEPARTMENT OF A CIVIL CIVIC PROJECT.
WE WERE APPROACHED, THERE IS, UH, A NEW PARK BEING DEVELOPED.
THE WINDY HILL PARK OFF OF OLD SMYRNA ROAD.
UH, THAT PARK USED TO BE OWNED BY THE SENSING FAMILY, THAT TRACK OF LAND HE USED AS A PRIVATE AIRSTRIP.
UM, SO ON THE LAND THAT WILL REMAIN AS KIND OF PART OF THE PARK IS THE OLD HANGAR.
HE USED TO PARK HIS, UH, HIS PLANE IN.
UM, SO WE WERE TASKED WITH GETTING, UH, KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING A, AN ARTIST TO PAINT A MURAL ON THE, UM, THE HANGAR THAT WILL STAY ON THE, AS PART OF THE PARK.
UM, SO WE HAVE OUR ARTISTS SELECTED, WE'VE RAISED FUNDS.
THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN RAISED FROM PRIVATE PARTIES, SO NO GOVERNMENT FUNDS WILL BE USED FOR IT.
UH, BUT BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A IMAGE PAINTED OF THE PLANE THAT THE SENSING FAMILY USED.
UH, IT WILL, I MEAN, IT, IT ACTUALLY LOOKS REALLY NICE.
YEAH, SO THAT'S THE HANGAR AS IT IS TODAY.
UH, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S NOT IN GREAT SHAPE, STRUCTURALLY SOUND, BUT DEFINITELY COULD USE, UM, SOME SPRUCING UP.
UM, SO THE ARTIST WE'VE SELECTED, HIS NAME IS, UH, ERIC BASS.
HE'S DONE SOME PROJECTS DOWNTOWN, INCLUDING LIKE, UM, A, A RELATIVELY LARGE ONE RIGHT OFF OF BROADWAY, THAT KIND OF, UH, FOR THE TITANS.
UM, SO WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS, KIND OF SHOPPED A DIFFERENT, OR A FEW DIFFERENT ARTISTS.
SO HE'S GOT AN IDEA OF PAINTING KIND OF A, AN IMAGE OF THE PLANE.
UH, THERE WILL BE SOME, UH, SPONSORSHIPS IN THE CORNER.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA INCLUDE THE, UH, BRENTWOOD CITY IMAGE.
THE, UM, NUMBERS ON THE PLANE ARE ACTUALLY THE SAME NUMBERS, UH, FROM THE ORIGINAL PLANE THAT WAS FLOWN IN AND OUT OF THIS AREA.
UH, SO KIND OF COMMEMORATE THE, UH, THE SENSING FAMILY.
UM, WE APPROACHED THE PARKS BOARD, GOSH, FIVE, SIX MONTHS AGO, I THINK JAY, DAVE, EVERYBODY SEEMED TO BE ON BOARD WITH IT.
UM, SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HOPING.
THIS IS JUST A RENDERING RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HOPING IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
THERE'S STILL SOME TWEAKING AS FAR AS THE SPONSORSHIP LOGOS, BUT THE TRUE, YOU KNOW, IMAGE OF THE PLANE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING.
UM, SO WE'RE HOPING THIS WILL TAKE PLACE, UH, END OF APRIL, WEATHER CONTINGENT AND KIND OF SITE CONTINGENT.
OBVIOUSLY WITH ALL THE RAIN THAT DOES MAKE GETTING, UH, SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING.
UM, BUT THAT'S OUR, WE'RE SHOOTING FOR THAT DATE AS IT STANDS NOW.
UM, WHERE IT SHOWS THE 10 BEING CUT AWAY, THAT'S PAINTED.
IT'S NOT REALLY, IS IT CUT AWAY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT SHARP EDGES THERE? RIGHT.
AND NUMBER TWO IS THE, IS THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PUT THE OTHER PICTURE UP, IS IT STRUCTURALLY SOUND? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO THE BUILDING OR WE HAD A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER CHECK IT OUT AND IT'S SOUND.
SO IS IT GONNA REMAIN LOCKED AND CLOSED SO THAT WELL, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LOCKED.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO DOORS ON IT.
AND WE USE IT FOR STORAGE OF MATERIALS, BRICKS AND OKAY.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT SOME, UH, RAVENS WOULD MANSION BRICKS THERE.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE CAMPING THERE, THERE IT LOOKS GOOD, BY THE WAY,
I DIDN'T MEAN TO YEAH, NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
BUT YEAH, I MEAN, IT IS OPEN, BUT TO JAY'S POINT, THEY ARE KEEPING MATERIAL AND THINGS.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION TOO FOR KRISTEN, MAYBE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS MAY BE THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE SPONSORSHIP ON SOMETHING PERMANENT.
LIKE FOR BRI FEST OR OTHER THINGS.
THE SPONSORSHIP STUFF IS MORE ON THE BANNERS THAT GET TAKEN DOWN.
AT WHAT POINT DOES THIS QUANTIFY AS LIKE, ADVERTISING AND POSSIBLY NOT FALL WITHIN OUR ORDINANCES? SO I THINK ACTUALLY WHEN, WHEN IT BROUGHT UP, IT MADE ME LOOK UP OUR SPONSORSHIP POLICY, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT.
IT WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST TIME, BUT IT'S THE FIRST TIME IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.
SO WE WILL NEED TO LOOK AT OUR SPONSORSHIP POLICY JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S OKAY.
UM, BUT I THINK IT WILL FALL UNDER THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET SPONSOR AGREEMENTS, UM, IN WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SPONSORING IT.
AND, AND I CAN, I CAN SEND YOU GUYS A COPY OF THE POLICY JUST SO YOU HAVE IT HANDY.
AND THEN I'D MAKE THE OBSERVATION JUST AS A COMPANY THAT GETS ASKED PRETTY MUCH EVERY YEAR ABOUT DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP RAILROAD PROJECTS.
THEY'VE GOT SPONSORSHIP PLAQUES ON, ON ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
WE'VE GOT 'EM ON WATER FOUNTAINS OUT THERE.
WE'VE GOT 'EM ON PARK BENCHES.
WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SPONSORSHIP ACKNOWLEDGEMENT ON THESE PROJECTS, I THINK ALL THROUGH MOST OF THE PARKS.
I MEAN, ROTARY PAVILION AND GRANITE WHITE PARK.
UM, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE BUY SOMETHING FOR THE PARK, HAVING A
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SPONSORSHIP ACKNOWLEDGEMENT BUILT IN THE PROJECT IS KIND OF THE STANDARD.WE CAN, I'LL ABSOLUTELY SEND YOU ALL THE COPY OF THE POLICY JUST TO MAKE SURE.
I MEAN, OTHER, OTHER PLAQUES MM-HMM
IT'S USUALLY A LITTLE SMALLER.
AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY THINKING WELL, IF THEY CAN ADVERTISE.
YOU KNOW, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY TELLING THE SCHOOLS Y'ALL CAN'T PUT THESE BANNERS UP NEXT TO YOUR YEAR ROUND.
SO JUST WHERE WE ARE ON THAT MM-HMM
I MEAN, SOME QUALITY WORK THERE.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, WE WILL REALLY SEE IT START TO TAKE FORM HERE IN THE NEXT HOPEFULLY SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS, PREFERABLY SOONER THAN THAT, BUT WEATHER CONTINGENT
SO HOPEFULLY I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT TIMELINE, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, IT SHOULD REMAIN AND BE WEATHERPROOFED AND, AND HOPEFULLY, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SAY IN PERPETUITY, BUT, UM, I MEAN THEY EVENTUALLY, THERE WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE A TOUCH UP, BUT I'M TALKING 10, 15, MAYBE 20 YEARS.
AND WHEN THAT TIME COMES, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD, UM, UH, TAKE ON AS AN EXPENSE.
LOOKING IS, IS THERE GONNA BE SOME TYPE OF A PLAQUE OR ANYTHING NEAR IT? WE'VE DISCUSSED DOING A SMALL PLAQUE, UM, AS, I MEAN MORE OF AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO LEADERSHIP BRENTWOOD.
WELL, YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING FROM THE HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE OF WHY THAT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH.
AND, AND IF I MAY, WE DO HAVE AN INTERPRETIVE DISPLAY THAT'S GONNA TELL THE STORY.
OF THE AVIATION HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY AND MR. SING, SO, OKAY, THANK YOU.
AND, AND THAT WILL BE, UH, NOT UP AGAINST THE HANGAR BECAUSE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A WALKWAY UP TO THE HANGER.
SO THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY THAT'S, UH, DON'T KNOW, MAYBE 50 FEET BACK, THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT IT AT THE HANGAR AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.
I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THAT, TO BE HONEST.
I, I KNOW BRING SO MANY MEMORIES BACK TO THEM.
WE DID COMMUNICATE WITH THEM TO GET THE, THE DETAILS OF THE PLANE.
SO I, I, I THINK THEY'VE BEEN INCLUDED IN A LITTLE BIT OF THE RENDERINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE SEEN THIS MOST FINAL, UM, RENDERING AT THIS POINT.
I WOULD BE SO ANXIOUS TO SEE THEIR FACES WHEN THEY SEE THAT
UM, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, WE TALKED ABOUT BRINGING THIS, YOU KNOW, BACK UP JUST AFTER YOU HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO DIGEST THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED REGARDING THE PCRS HAZARDOUS DUTY BENEFIT.
UH, CURRENTLY THE BUDGET AS IT'S BEING DRAFTED DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY ASSUMED CHANGE IN OUR TCRS BENEFITS, UH, THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR THIS.
AND IF WE WERE TO WANT TO DO THAT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO TELL ME.
UM, OTHERWISE MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE, WE, WE TALK ABOUT IT NEXT YEAR OR DECIDE, DECIDE THAT THIS IS A BENEFIT, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA PURSUE.
SO IF THIS IS REALLY JUST THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET, LET ME KNOW, UH, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO PREPARE THE BUDGET? DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT HAZARD DISTINCT BENEFIT? WELL, AT THE LAST MEETING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE HOPING TO HEAR FROM OTHER CITIES, AND I PRESUME THIS WAS TOO SOON TO HEAR ANYTHING FROM OTHER CITIES.
ONLY MONTGOMERY COUNTY HAS DONE ANYTHING.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE, SO THERE WERE, THERE WERE 22, 2 CITIES WHO ARE THE SAME ONES, OR, WELL, LARGELY THE SAME ONES WHO HAVE THE BRIDGE BENEFIT WHO ASKED FOR THE ACTUARIAL STUDY TO BE DONE.
SO THEY, THEY CAN ONLY BE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE CONSIDERING IT RIGHT NOW.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTION THEY MAY BE PLANNING TO TAKE WITH REGARD TO IT.
WELL, DO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM OTHER CITIES OR IS IT THAT NOBODY'S GOING TO MAKE A DECISION? NO, NO, NO.
TIME-WISE, THEY'RE IN THE SAME TRACK.
WE ARE AS RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN THEY WOULD BE MAKING THAT DECISION.
SO I, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANY MEANINGFUL FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS IN TIME FOR YOU TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
BECAUSE I THINK NOW, WELL, THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS GETTING TO.
THERE IS A DEADLINE FOR THIS BUDGET, BUT THERE'S SUCH A PROCEDURE SUCH AS AMENDING A BUDGET TOO.
SO IF THE INFORMATION CAME IN, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT COULD NOT BE AMENDED.
UH, I THINK WE WERE ALL OPEN TO WAITING TO SEE IF IT'S GONNA BE A STATEWIDE THING OR NOT.
SO I MEAN, AT THIS TIME I WOULD SAY WE DON'T NEED ANY ACTION BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TREND IS GOING.
BUT IF THE TREND IS WE WERE THE ONLY ONES, SAY NOT ON BOARD, WE COULD AMEND OUR BUDGET EVEN AFTER THE BUDGET YEAR STARTS.
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THAT'S CERTAINLY WE COULD, ONE THING THAT I, I'LL ADMIT I DO NOT KNOW, IS WHAT IS TCR S'S REQUIREMENT FOR NOTIFICATION TO THEM THAT YOU INTEND TO DO IT FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR? THE WINDOW MAY CLOSE.I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE THE OBSERVATION.
I KNOW WHEN WE DID OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE SALES TAX DEPENDENT NATURE OF THE CITY'S FINANCES.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, AND I KNOW IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE RIGHT NOW, ALL THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE TO DO WITH TARIFFS AND ECONOMIC IMPACT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IMPACT THAT MIGHT MAKE ON RETAIL SALES, WHICH IS HOW SALES TAX IS GENERATED.
SO GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY, I'M, I'M KIND OF A FAN IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, BOTH ON THE, WHAT PEOPLE DO SIDE, BUT ALSO JUST IN TERMS OF THE, THE SALES TAX COLLECTIONS THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ON AGAIN, OFF AGAIN TARIFF PROGRAM, JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AS, AS WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF CERTAINTY, I THINK CAUTION IS PROBABLY IN ORDER FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND KIRK WAS STILL HERE, KIRK, KIRK WAS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
HE SAID HE DIDN'T THINK THIS WAS A GOOD PLAN.
THEN THE CHIEF OF POLICE TOLD US LAST TIME THAT HE DIDN'T REALLY SEE THIS.
HE THOUGHT THERE WAS OTHER BETTER USES.
SO I, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT OTHER CITIES WERE DOING.
IN A WAY, YOU HAVE THE FORMER CITY MANAGER AND YOU HAVE POLICE CHIEF TELLING YOU DON'T REALLY NEED IT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.
AND IF WE SAY NO TO IT NOW, IT, IT IS NO REVISITING IT'S DONE, OR SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN ALWAYS REVISIT IT FOR A FUTURE YEAR.
NOW, WHETHER YOU COULD DO SOMETHING SORT OF IN A MID-YEAR CAPACITY AFTER EVERYBODY'S ALREADY DONE THEIR BUDGETS, YOU HAVE ANSWERS FROM OTHERS, I DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
UM, I WOULD SUSPECT YOU REALLY WOULD WANNA WAIT ONE YEAR.
I THINK YOU WOULD TO ME IF YOU CAN WAIT A YEAR, BUT I MEAN, BASED ON WHAT THE CHIEF'S TOLD ME, I, I, I DON'T SEE A NEED.
THEY SAID IT WASN'T REALLY A RECRUITING TOOL THAT HELPED THEM.
AND SO I'D RATHER LOOK AT, FOR THE FINANCIAL INVESTMENT, I'D RATHER LOOK AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT HELP THEM WITH RECRUITING MORE, UM, SINCE THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR NEED RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I MEAN, THIS OPENS WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, WELL, WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE FINANCIALLY? AND YOU SAID, IT OPENS US UP TO AN UNKNOWN NUMBER OF WHAT THE PAYOUT MAY HAVE TO BE.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING, BUT, UM, SINCE IT'S NOT A RECRUITMENT TOOL TOOL, REALLY WE NEED TO LOOK AT MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT CAN HELP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE RECRUITING WITH THIS NEXT YOUNGER GROUP OF OFFICERS.
UM, LET'S, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, THESE OTHER RECRUITING, UH, OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT, UM, LEAST THIS, UH, AT LEAST A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD.
I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, APPRECIATE ALL YOUR RESEARCH THAT YOU BROUGHT TO THE TABLE ON THIS AND THEN YOUR BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT BRINGS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE SO THAT WE COULD BE FULLY INFORMED.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE EXTRA WORK THAT YOU DID.
AS I STATED BEFORE, UM, FOR DOING THIS, AND I FEEL LIKE THE SOONER THE BETTER, I THINK IT RECOGNIZES THE SACRIFICES OF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS STATISTICALLY DO NOT LIVE AS LONG AS OTHERS.
UM, IF IT'S NOT A GOOD RECRUITING TOOL, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE YOUNG, WHICH NOT ALL OF OUR OFFICERS OR FIREFIGHTERS ARE YOUNG WHEN THEY COME TO US, SOME OF 'EM HAVE ALREADY HAD A 15, 20 YEAR CAREER.
I THINK IT DOES HELP IN RECRUITING, I THINK IT DOES HELP IN RETENTION.
UM, I THINK IT DOES KEEP US COMPETITIVE.
I, I FEEL LIKE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE SERVE AND PROTECT US 24 HOURS A DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR IN ANY BENEFIT THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM.
I FEEL IT'S WELL WORTH OUR EXPENSE.
WE ARE VERY FRUGAL WITH OUR SPENDING.
UM, THERE'S AN OLD SAYING IN BRENTWOOD, IT'S BAD TO PAY TOO MUCH, IT'S WORSE TO PAY TOO LITTLE.
OBVIOUSLY I'M MAYBE THE LONE VOICE ON THIS, BUT I JUST THINK PUBLIC SAFETY IS OUR MOST IMPORTANT OBJECTIVE.
I DO NOT THINK EXPENSE OF THIS COMPARED WITH THE HELP IT GIVES TO THOSE WHO FLED THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR YEARS FOR US IS TOO MUCH.
SO I, I'LL, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WILL ABIDE BY WHAT THE COMMISSION DECIDES, BUT I JUST WANNA GO ON RECORD.
I'M STILL STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THIS AS I STATED SO AT THE LAST MEETING.
SO, AND WE'LL PROBABLY STATE SO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS STATE IS PRESENTED.
AND, UH, AT THIS TIME I UNDERSTAND WE'LL PREPARE
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THE BUDGET, UM, NOT DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT WITH OUR BENEFITS AND PERHAPS THIS COULD BE WRITTEN AT A DIFFERENT DATE.THAT WAS IN CASE YOU HAD DETAILED QUESTIONS.
WELL I'M GONNA UPDATE YOU ON WHAT I HEARD FROM THE STATE REGARDING THE RECT FACILITY ENTERPRISE VERSUS, UM, GENERAL FUND.
AND WHAT I HEARD BACK FROM THE STATE WAS THAT MOST MUNICIPALITIES REPORT THEIR RECREATION ACTIVITIES IN THE GENERAL FUND.
AND A FEW EXAMPLES ARE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, MURFREESBORO, JOHNSON CITY, AND LEBANON, THEIR GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY GYMS, ET CETERA, ARE ALL REPORTED IN GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES.
UM, JOHNSON CITY, FOR EXAMPLE, DID HAVE THEIRS SET UP AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT THEY TRANSFERRED IT TO A GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES IN 2019.
THERE ARE NO STATE LAWS THAT REQUIRE IT TO BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
AND IF THE POLICY OF THE CITY IS FOR THE FACILITY TO EARN REVENUE ENOUGH TO COVER ALL COSTS, THEN GASB REQUIRES THAT IT BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
SO IT WILL DEPEND ON HOW YOU ALL DECIDE THE POLICY WILL BE.
UM, CAN YOU RESTATE THAT? CAN YOU RESTATE WHAT YOU JUST SAID? SURE.
THERE'S NO STATE LAW, BUT IF GASB REQUIRES NO STATE LAW, NO STATE LAW, BUT NO STATE LAW, BUT GASB, WHICH IS THE GOVERNMENTAL COUNTY STANDARDS BOARD, REQUIRES THAT IF THE CITY'S POLICY IS THAT REVENUES COVER ALL OR MOST COSTS, THEN IT'S REQUIRED TO BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
SO IF THERE'S A POLICY WRITTEN THAT REQUIRES THAT, THEN IT HAS TO BE YES.
THEN HOW DID THE OTHER CITIES NOT TO THAT? WELL, THEY'RE FUNDING IT WITH SALES TAX.
OTHER REVENUES ARE SUPPORTING IT.
UM, AND I REACHED OUT TO MORRISTOWN FINANCE DIRECTOR.
THEY HAVE THE FACILITY THAT'S RUN BY SPORTS FACILITIES AND FOR TWO YEARS IT HAS NOT MADE ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER ALL COSTS.
THE STATE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY SET UP A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND FOR THEIR, UM, FACILITY.
AND THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO EARMARK AND RESTRICT SOME OF YOUR REVENUES TO THAT, TO THAT LIKE SALES TAX, PROPERTY TAX TO COVER THE ADDITIONAL COSTS.
UM, SHE ALSO MENTIONED THAT SPORTS FACILITY IS NOT PROVIDING THEM WITH THEIR INFORMATION THAT THEY REQUESTED.
SO WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE STRUGGLE WITH THEM.
SO I THOUGHT I'D SHARE THAT WITH YOU AS WELL.
DO WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE FOR OUR, UM, HISTORIC HOMES THAT WE RENT OUT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE NO SELF-FUNDING? NO, WE DO NOT.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO POLICY IN PLACE THAT INDICATES YOU'D HAVE TO DO AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
IF YOU WERE TO ENTERTAIN ONE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE REC A FACILITY DIFFERENT THEN THAT MIGHT TRIP YOUR DEED THROUGH GS B TO HAVE IT BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY STATE LAW IS THAT THE WATER AND SEWER FUND BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
AND THEN I'M GONNA ASSUME THAT ECD IS ALSO, BUT I HAVEN'T FOUND THE, THE LAW THAT STATES THAT.
BUT YOU WOULD ALMOST ASSUME THAT IT WOULD BE ALSO, UM, I KNOW COMMISSIONER SPEARS ASKED ABOUT THE PUBLIC PRIVATE, AND CURRENTLY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE CITY CANNOT GO INTO A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO, UM, ANYTHING THAT DICTATES WHETHER IT HAS TO BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND OR GENERAL FUND.
SINCE THERE'S NO, UM, LEGAL MEANS TO DO THAT.
UM, SHOULD THE LAW CHANGE THEN? RIGHT NOW, THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE ANY GUIDANCE FOR US ON THAT EITHER.
SO I WOULD REVERT BACK TO WHAT GABY SAYS, AND THAT IS, IF THE CITY'S POLICY IS TO MAKE ALL REVENUE OR THE REVENUE COVER ALL COSTS, AND IT WOULD BE A, UM, IF THAT LOAN CHANGE, DO YOU THINK THE STATE WOULD PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE? I THINK THEY WOULD, YES.
IT, WE WE CAN PARTNER PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNER RIGHT NOW, JUST HAS TO HAVE DIFFERENT STIPULATIONS UNDERNEATH IT WITH THE, UM, D I'M SORRY, WHAT IS IT? I-D-B-D-I.
SO, BUT THERE IS STILL NO STATE LAW THAT YOU COULD FIND THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT EVEN UNDERNEATH NOT I COULD FIND NOT, NO.
AND I CAN DEFER TO KRISTEN ON THAT.
WELL, AGAIN, I THINK WHAT THEY WERE TELLING KAREN IS THEY CAN'T SPECULATE WITHOUT 'CAUSE 'CAUSE IF WE DID IT THROUGH AN IDB, THE RELATIONSHIP WOULD BE WITH THE IDB AND THE WHATEVER PRIVATE ENTITY AND NOT WITH THE CITY AND THE PRIVATE ENTITY.
SO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE WASN'T ABLE TO SPECULATE.
WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF, IF AND WHEN THIS LAW PASSES.
SO ONE QUESTION THAT MAY HELP KAREN, UM, IF IT'S, IF IT'S INITIATED AS A PART OF THE GENERAL FUND AND IT THEN BECOMES ENTERPRISE FUND, IS THAT EASIER THAN IT IS IF IT STARTS
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AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND THEN IT, IT TRANSITIONS TO GENERAL FUND? IF WE WANTED TO PULL IT OUT, I THINK TRANSITIONING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER OR THE OTHER WAY WOULD BE THE SAME AMOUNT.I'D RATHER NOT HAVE TO MAKE THE CHANGE
I'D RATHER KNOW GOING INTO IT WHICH WAY WE'RE GONNA GO.
UM, THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THEN? ARE YOU NEEDING TO KNOW THAT BOX? THANK YOU FOR THAT.
NOW, NOW I ASKED WHEN WE, YOU WERE NEEDING TO KNOW WHICH ROUTE TO TAKE FOR THIS BUDGET? NO, NO.
WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW AT THIS TIME.
WELL, I MEAN, TO PREPARE THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, WELL, YOU WOULD FIRST HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THAT POLICY'S GONNA BE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS, SO, AND WE MAY NOT DO A POLICY WELL, YEAH.
THERE, THERE MAY NOT BE A POLICY.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH THE RACKET FACILITY, NOW THEY DON'T HAVE A POLICY THAT REQUIRES IT TO BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND, IS IT EASIER TO MOVE FORWARD AS PART OF THE GENERAL FUND IN TERMS OF PREPARING THE BUDGET DOCUMENT? SURE.
I MEAN, UM, I, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I MEAN, BA BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID AND, AND GIVEN THE CONVERSATIONS, AND ALSO I KNOW WHEN, WHEN COLONEL NAR WAS DISCUSSING THIS SIMILAR TOPIC WITH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE BACK A WHILE AGO AT THAT TIME, I MEAN, THEY BROUGHT UP DOING IT AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND TO KEEP IT CLEAN AND TO KEEP IT ACCOUNTABLE.
AND, AND PERSONALLY I WOULD THINK KEEPING IT CLEAN AND ACCOUNTABLE AND KEEPING THE BOOK STRAIGHT, I THINK SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR US AS A COMMISSION AS ALWAYS.
SO, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK CERTAINLY WE SHOULD BE LEANING THAT WAY IF WE DECIDE TO PURSUE THIS PROJECT.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
ENTERPRISE FUND AS WE'RE WAITING ON THE POTENTIAL STATE LAW TO CHANGE AND WHAT THAT COULD MEAN FOR US.
DO, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE STATE CAN OFFER TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM ON THAT PART OF IT? IF THAT, IF, IF IT WE'RE STILL IN THE IF STAGES OF ALL THIS PROCESS, WHICH I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION AND HAVING THE INFORMATION BROUGHT FORWARD IN ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE RESEARCH ON THAT.
UM, BUT IF WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT POSSIBLE STATE LAW TO CHANGE, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL, THEN IT OPENS AND THEN WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO KNOW THEN HOW WE WOULD RESPOND TO THAT IF WE HA IF, IF WE HAVE AN OPTION FOR A PARTNER.
MY, SO MY, IS MY QUESTION CLEAR
WELL, I I THINK YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF, IF WE WIND UP DOING A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, THAT MAY HELP MAKE THE DECISION THAT IT'D BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND OR NOT.
JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE SAYS.
I, KAREN SAID THAT SHE WANTS TO, I THINK WANTING TO BE TRANSPARENT AND MAKE SURE THIS WORKS.
I, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH ENTERPRISE FUND.
DID YOU, DID YOU STATE YOU WANTED AN ENTERPRISE FUND? THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION, YES, SIR.
WELL, AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR, I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND THE ADVANTAGES OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND IN TERMS OF BEING ACCOUNTABLE, BEING CLEAR, BEING ABLE TO DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, THE P AND L FOR THIS, THIS CONCEPT CONCEPT SPECIFICALLY, WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF NOT DOING AN ENTERPRISE FUND? WHY, WHY WOULD WE SELECT THAT OVER ACCOUNTABILITY? I WOULD NOT SELECT IT OVER AN ENTERPRISE FUND BECAUSE IT'S NOT FULLY TRANSPARENT.
SO REALLY THERE'S NO ADVANTAGE IN, UNLESS THE DESIRE IS TO NOT BE TRANSPARENT.
THE ONLY ADVANTAGE THAT YOU COULD SEE IS THAT IF IT'S NOT GOING TO EARN ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER ALL ITS COSTS, IT'S EASIER TO BE SUBSIDIZED IF IT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT BEING AN ENTERPRISE FUND COULD SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD DRIVE YOUR POLICIES MORE WITH REGARD TO THE WAY YOU RUN THE FACILITY.
BECAUSE YOU GOT, IT'S MORE REVENUE ORIENTED THEN MM-HMM
VERSUS MAYBE HAVING SOME FREE AND REDUCED TYPE OF, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS OR SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER.
IT COULD DRIVE YOU TO BE MORE REVENUE ORIENTED.
UM, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DECIDED THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK, BUT THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN SPENT SO FAR, HOW IS THAT CATEGORIZED? IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED IN THE, UM, CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND.
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HOW WOULD THAT, THAT WILL BE ALWAYS SHOWN IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND.IT WON'T BE TRANSFERRED TO, TO COME UNDER ANOTHER FUND.
LIKE IF IT WERE AN ENTERPRISE, WOULD IT MOVE OVER TO THAT AT SOME POINT? WELL, YOU, YOU POTENTIALLY WILL BEGIN TO HAVE OPERATING COSTS UP TO 18 MONTHS AHEAD OF ITS OPEN MM-HMM
IF WE CONTRACT WITH SPORTS FACILITIES.
SO THERE'S NO URGENCY RIGHT NOW TO MAKE THE DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER UNTIL WE ACTUALLY KNOW THAT ONE IS BEING BUILT.
IT, IT, IT WILL REMAIN AS IT RIGHT NOW.
AS PART OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS RUN.
IT'S REALLY, IF YOU WANT THIS BUDGET DOCUMENT TO REFLECT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I GUESS IS REALLY WE'VE GOTTA KNOW NOW.
OTHERWISE WE CAN LET IT CONTINUE ON THE WAY THAT IT IS AND MAKE THE CHANGES LATER.
IS THERE A CONSENSUS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? SO JAY, DO YOU RECOMMEND LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS AND MAKE THE CHANGE LATER GIVEN THAT YOU STILL HAVE SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS? I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SAFEST TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND NOT MAYBE RUSH TO DO THE ENTERPRISE FUND AFTER SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS ARE ARE KNOWN, THEN MY, MY OPINION MIGHT BE MORE TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY PART OF IT.
AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT DEPENDS UPON WHAT YOUR PERSONAL OBJECTIVES ARE FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF.
IF YOU WANT IT TO BE MORE REVENUE DRIVEN VERSUS MORE COMMUNITY PARK TYPE OF AMENITY, BECAUSE WE DON'T RECOVER OUR COSTS FROM OUR PARKS.
IT'S A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION THERE.
SO I THINK MAYBE I HEAR THAT WE'RE OKAY TO LEAVE IT AS IS FOR NOW BECAUSE WE CAN DECIDE TO CREATE AN ENTERPRISE FUND FOR THIS IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OR ANYTIME WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT CONCURRENT WITH A BUDGET PASSING.
AND ONCE IT'S BUILT AND IF IT'S ALL PAID FOR BY THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, THEN IT JUST BECOMES A TRANSFER ASSET TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
WHEREAS IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, THAT ROLLS UP TO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO IT WOULD BE FINE TO STAY THERE IF THAT'S THE AVENUE TAKEN, OR WE CAN JUST TRANSFER THE ASSET TO AN ENTERPRISE FUND ONCE IT'S BUILT SO THAT DECISION CAN BE MADE LATER TO, TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST HAVE SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL FACILITY.
UM, AND TO ME IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE WAY THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN PROGRESSING UNTIL WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION TO CHANGE, TO CHANGE OUR PATH.
'CAUSE I THINK WITH THE PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION, AND SOME OF THAT IS KIND OF, WE TALKED WITH SPORTS MANAGEMENT COMPANY ON THE PROFORMA AND WHICH LEVERS WE PULL.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT DOWN TO THE DETAIL OF DO YOU PUT A SMALL CONCESSION STAND IN? 'CAUSE IF WE WANTED REVENUE GENERATING AND YOU NEED THAT TO KIND OF OFFSET IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FREE COURTS OR WHATEVER, I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THAT IS STILL UNDETERMINED AND WE AS A COMMISSION NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE AND WHAT LEVERS HAVE TO BE PULLED IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY OR BREAK EVEN THAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE HEAR BACK FROM THEM ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET US THERE, UM, TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
I THINK THAT WILL GUIDE OUR DISCUSSION PHILOSOPHICALLY TOO.
I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH FEEDBACK TO KNOW WE'LL STAY THE COURSE FOR NOW AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT IT AT ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE.
THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT COMING BACK IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, AFTER YOU'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TIME MAYBE TO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THIS PROJECT TO ADVANCE FORWARD, WE TALKED VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THERE BE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER? UH, AND IF SO, HOW SHOULD IT BE CONSTITUTED? HOW SHOULD THE MEMBERS BE SELECTED AND HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED? AND SO SIMPLY BRINGING THIS BACK IN, IN FRONT OF YOU AFTER YOU'VE HAD A LITTLE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SO, SO JAY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED NEED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, I KNOW I, I, I FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY THAT THIS SORT OF PROJECT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A COMMUNITY FUNDRAISER.
YOU KNOW, THAT THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT IT, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH TURF FIELDS AND JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND AND, AND COUNTLESS OTHER PROJECTS OVER THE YEARS.
DID THOSE PROJECTS TYPICALLY HAVE AN, A HIGH COMMITTEE OR IS A HIGH COMMITTEE DRIVEN BY THE COMMUNITY SPONSORSHIP END OF IT? OR, BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD AD HIGH COMMITTEES FOR THESE OTHER THINGS, BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT GIVING THE COMMUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY
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TO INVEST IN THIS BOTH GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A BETTER VALUE FOR THE TAXPAYER, BUT ALSO GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEASURE THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.50 YEAR ANNIVERSARY HAD AN AD HOC DID AND THEN THEY FUNDRAISED, AND THEN WHAT THEY DIDN'T SPEND, THEY ACTUALLY GAVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY PLAYGROUND.
AND, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CLEVELAND PLAYGROUND.
I MEAN, YOU HAD, SO THE, THE, THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY COMMITTEE, WHICH I WAS ON, YOU KNOW, AFTER PAYING FOR THE PARADE AND THE FUNCTIONS AND ALL THAT, HAD A BALANCE LEFT OVER.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO IT WASN'T, SO THAT WAS BALANCE CONTRIBUTED TOWARD THE INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND AS A RESULT? RIGHT.
NO, MY POINT WAS THERE WAS A COMMITTEE, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE 50TH FOR THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY.
OVERALL, THE YEAR LONG PROCESS.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT TYPICALLY LIKE THE, WE DIDN'T HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS WHEN THEY RAISED, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY FOR THAT.
I, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IS DRIVEN BY THE FUNDRAISING OR IF THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS.
SO WITH, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY PLAYGROUND, UH, WE HAD ROTARY INVOLVED IN IT, SO YOU HAD SOME ORGANIZATIONAL PUSH BEHIND IT.
I THINK IT REALLY WAS ROTARY THAT GOT THAT THING GOING.
50TH COMMITTEE PARTICIPATED, BUT THEY SAW THAT AS A VERY, UM, SYMBIOTIC TYPE RELATIONSHIP FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
SO IT WAS MORE ORGANIZATION DRIVEN.
I THINK IF YOU HAD THE VFW IN FRONT OF US NOW SAYING, HEY, THIS IS OUR IDEA, THEN MAYBE THE CITY WORKS MORE WITH THEM TO GO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S MORE OF A CITY WANTING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE SERVED.
UM, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE MORE CITY INITIATED.
SO WOULD YOU WANT STAFF TO TRY AND PUT THAT TOGETHER OR DO YOU FEEL AS THOUGH FEEDBACK PARTICIP ACTIVE PARTICIPATION BY THE VETERANS IN THE COMMUNITY IS NEEDED ON THIS COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT BE WHAT THE VETERANS WOULD BE PROUD OF? KIND OF WHAT'S YOUR PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO GETTING IT DONE? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO REALLY, SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE, WE PUT THAT ON THE CITY OR IF WE HAVE A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS THAT THEN COORDINATES WITH THE COMMISSION TO, TO EXECUTE THE FUNDRAISING AND OR FINALIZE THE DESIGN.
I, I WHATEVER IS ULTIMATELY DECIDED, I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE SURE SOME VETERANS ARE INVOLVED BECAUSE I MEAN, NOBODY AT THIS TABLE AS A VETERAN YET, THEY MAY HAVE GONE TO LOTS OF OTHER MEMORIALS.
I MEAN, I KNOW MY DAD HAS GONE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY LOOKING AT THE MEMORIALS AND STUFF.
SO AS A VETERAN, SO, UM, HOWEVER THAT LOOKS, WE, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO, AND THEY'LL HAVE MORE VESTED INTEREST IN, YOU KNOW, HELPING WITH THE FUNDRAISING AND SO FORTH BECAUSE THEY'RE PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, INVESTED AND INTERESTED IN IT.
SO I, I LEAN MORE TOWARDS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THIS TO TAKE SOME OF THE BURDEN OFF STAFF AND THEN ALSO HAVE MORE INVOLVEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND SOME OF THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON THIS.
COMMISSIONER SPEARS, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT, I KNOW THAT YOU WERE IN TOUCH WITH, UH, WITH THE VETERANS, UM, RELATED TO THE INITIATIVES, UH, THAT YOU'VE BEEN LEADING AND TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT THAT.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THEIR DESIRE FOR INVOLVEMENT AND, UH, SOME OF THEIR THOUGHTS AROUND IT? SURE.
UM, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT BECAUSE A VETERAN CAME TO THIS TO ME AND ASKED, CAN WE POSSIBLY DO THIS? SO I WENT TO STAFF AND DAVE AND JAY AND KIRK WERE VERY HELPFUL OF GETTING EVERYTHING GOING AND FIGURING OUT WHAT, WHAT PARAMETERS MIGHT WORK AND WHAT PLACES, WHAT LOCATIONS.
UM, THAT'S HOW IT STARTED HERE.
SO THEN IN THE DISCUSSIONS, JAY WAS THE ONE THAT OFFERED THE IDEA OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT WILL EITHER REST ON THE SHOULDERS OF STAFF ALONE OR WE CAN CHOOSE TO BRING IN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WE'VE DONE ON A REGULAR BASIS OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS IN AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FORUM FOR DIFFERENT MATTERS.
SO IF WE WERE TO BRING IN AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, WE COULD BRING PEOPLE IN WHO HAVE POSSIBLY BEEN, UM, INVOLVED IN BUILDING MEMORIALS LIKE THIS, EVEN ON A GRANDER SCALE THAN THIS.
SO THEY BRING A LOT OF AREAS OF EXPERTISE WITH THEM.
UM, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF VERY QUALIFIED PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD WHO COULD CONTRIBUTE MIGHTILY WHO ARE VETERANS, UM, INTO THIS PROJECT.
SO A FORMAL WAY OF DOING IT WOULD BE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
IT WOULD BE AN ORGANIZED STRUCTURE, AND WE COULD PROCEED THAT WAY, INTEGRATING STAFF, OBVIOUSLY INTO THAT DISCUSSION.
THAT'S HOW THAT ALWAYS WORKS WITH AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
STAFF STILL LEADS THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE IN WAYS AND GUIDES THEM.
UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT COMPONENT IS FINISHED AND THE DIRECTION IS SET, THEN TO COMMISSIONER ANDREW'S POINT, I THINK WE CAN ENGAGE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO, UH, PARTICIPATE MONETARILY, WHICH I KNOW THEY WILL WANT TO.
SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT STRUCTURE SET UP, THEN WE DO THE SECOND STEP OF ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY.
THE VETERANS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH ARE VERY EAGER TO BE INVOLVED, UM, IN THE PLANNING AND PROCESSING OF THIS, UM, EXCITING NEW DEVELOPMENT.
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I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AN A HIRE COMMITTEE.I MEAN, I PRESUME WE'LL DO IT LIKE WE DO OTHERS.
PEOPLE WILL APPLY, WE'LL ADVERTISE PEOPLE WILL APPLY AND WE'LL VOTE ON MEMBERS TO BE ON IT.
IT'S HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT.
I MEAN, THAT'S HOW WE'VE CHOSEN ALL THE AD HOC COMMITTEES.
NOW THAT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO DO, BUT I THINK, I DON'T MIND HAVING AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
WE JUST NEED TO DETERMINE HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WE WANTED TO, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE DON'T MAKE IT TOO LARGE.
IT WORKS FOR THE CITY COMMISSION.
UM, AND, AND IT'S YOURS TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO EACH APPOINT A MEMBER TO THAT COMMITTEE OR YOU WANT TO TAKE APPLICATIONS AND THEN SELECT AMONG THEM AND DO THE VOTING LIKE WE NORMALLY DO.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO TAKE APPLICATIONS, UH, THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE A CROSS SECTION, THE ENTIRE CITY CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO KNOW ABOUT IT AND GIVE THEM SEVERAL WEEKS TO APPLY WHERE IT CAN GET OUT.
WE CAN USE THE SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, TO HELP US WITH THAT AND EMAIL.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO OPEN IT UP THAT WAY.
IF THERE'S CONCURRENCE THERE, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
UM, SO WHEN WILL WE ADVERTISE THESE? WE TALK WITH, UH, MS. HOLLY'S, HOLLY BEHIND ME.
UM, I HAVE TO BUILD IT IN THE SOFTWARE, SO THAT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY NOTICE IT ON THE NEXT MEETING.
WELL, I DO THINK A 30 DAY PERIOD TO DRAW UP SOME TYPE OF STATEMENT SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE JOINING THAT THAT'S THE NEXT PART.
IT'S GOTTA SAY THE, THE MISSION OR THE GOAL OR WHATEVER.
SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING UP FOR.
SO THAT THANK YOU AND HAVE FUNDRAISINGS INVOLVED.
AND THEY'RE NOT ONE THAT WANTS TO RAISE MONEY.
THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT BEFORE THEY SIGN UP FOR SOMETHING.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE PERFECT SEGUE.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK NEXT.
UM, SO I WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA ADVERTISE AND, AND DO IT AS WE WOULD WITH A NORMAL BOARD.
UH, AND AS FAR AS THE PARAMETERS OR THE GUIDANCE THAT WE PUT IN, WHAT PEOPLE ARE SIGNING UP FOR, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE COMMISSION DETERMINE THE LOCATION AND SORT OF, KIND OF TO SET THE FENCE, SET THE BOUNDARIES SO IT DOESN'T GO TOO FAR FIELD AND YES, YES.
YEAH,
AND YOU KNOW, I, I DO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A, A LITTLE BIT OF A FENCE OR A BOX AROUND IT SO THAT THE, IF THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR MIND, THE PEOPLE COMING IN SAY, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY IT'S GONNA BE A, IT'LL FIND A WAY TO DESCRIBE A MEMORIAL SUCH AS THAT ONE, UM, WITHIN A LIMITED AREA THAT WILL BE SELECTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FUNDRAISING AND THAT KIND OF THING SO WE CAN WORK THROUGH THOSE DETAILS.
I HAVEN'T BEEN FROM BRENTWOOD.
MY GRANDFATHER'S FAMILY, MY UNCLE CHESTER.
IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST SUBMARINERS IN WORLD WAR I IN WORLD WAR II.
MY GRANDFATHER WITH FOUR CHILDREN SERVED IN THE EUROPEAN THEATER ON A DESTROYER.
UM, MY GRANDMOTHER, HIS WIFE, MY NANNY FRANCIS, SHE WORKED AT FAULTY WHERE WIRED THE COCKPITS FOR THE P 50 ONES, WHICH WAS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FIGHTER AIRPLANE OF THE US MILITARY DURING WORLD WAR II.
UH, MY AUNT NORA, SHE WAS A COMBAT NURSE IN PACIFIC.
MY UNCLE DAVE WAS MABEL PACIFIC, AND MY UNCLE BEN WAS MABEL IN PACIFIC, ALL FROM ONE FAMILY.
AND OFTEN THINK OF MY GREAT-GRANDMOTHER THAT THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A PRETTY HEAVY BURDEN HAVING THAT MANY CHILDREN GONE, ESPECIALLY IN A TIME WHEN THERE WAS HARDLY ANY COMMUNICATION.
SO THE VETERANS PAY A HIGH PRICE.
I KNOW AT LEAST ONE OF MY UNCLES THAT WAS IN THE PACIFIC BATTLED THE REST OF HIS LIFE ISSUES BECAUSE OF THINGS HE SAW DURING THE WAR, AS MANY VETERANS KNEW.
AND SO, UH, HOWEVER WE DO THIS, I HOPE IT'S VERY HONORING AND VERY WONDERFUL FOR THE VETERANS.
THEY WERE ALL RAISED AT THE CORNER OF EDMONDSON PIKE AND CONCORD ROAD ON FAMILY DAIRY FARM, WHICH WAS CALLED LOCUST TILTS DAIRY, WHICH OPERATED FROM 1797 TO 1978.
UM, THE, THE LAST FAMILY MEMBER WANTED TO WORK THAT HARD ON A DAIRY FARM.
AND SO THEY, THEY DECIDED TO STOP DOING ROAD SERVICE.
BUT I'VE HAD OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS THAT HAVE SERVED IN MORE, MORE RECENT, BUT AS I THOUGHT BACK, THOUGHT BACK THROUGH THE YEARS, I THOUGHT, WHAT A BURDEN, BUT WHAT GREAT SACRIFICE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE, THE RIGHT FOR REELECTIONS, UH, DEMOCRACY, THE RIGHT FOR REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.
SO HOPEFULLY THOSE THINGS WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL,
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THE SITE LOCATION.CHASE THE SITE FOR THE, UM, ALL INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND, WHICH WE, WE HAD A FEW PLACES WE CONSIDERED AND SETTLED ON GRANNY WHITE WHEN WE DID THE DOG FARM.
WE DID A PARTNERSHIP WITH MARS, BUT WE KINDA WENT OUT OF THE BOX TO PICK WHERE THAT WAS.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT CITY PICKED THE SITE AND AND FIRMED THAT UP BEFORE THE COMMITTEE GETS INVOLVED.
AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY WE'LL PROCEED THEN.
UM, WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COMMITTEE CHECKS IN WITH YOU REGULARLY SO THAT THINGS DON'T GET TOO MUCH MOMENTUM BEHIND THEM BEFORE THE COMMISSION HAS A CHANCE TO SAY YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
OR WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PIVOT ON THAT.
SO WILL THE COMMITTEE LAST 90 DAYS, 120 DAYS? DO WE KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS? MY ONLY QUESTION IS, BECAUSE I, I'M AFRAID IF WE PUT A TIME CONSTRAINT THAT'S TOO NARROW, IT MAY RUSH A PROJECT.
IF WE PUT IT TOO LONG, THEN IT MAY EXTEND.
SO, UM, IS THERE A WAY TO ESTABLISH THAT ON THE FRONT END? I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THAT.
'CAUSE NOW PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
AN AD HOC COMMITTEE SHOULD BE OF LIMITED DURATION AND PROBABLY ESTABLISHED UP FRONT.
ONE THING IS, UH, RATHER THAN OPEN-ENDED AT THE RIBBON CUTTING, THEY CONCLUDE IT.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU THINK 18 MONTHS, COULD WE DO A NOT TO EXCEED, NOT TO, YEAH, NOT TO EXCEED 18 MONTHS.
IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I CAN SEND THE INFORMATION THAT, UM, LIKE THE AGENDA ITEMS FROM WHEN THE 50TH AD HOC COMMITTEE WAS CREATED.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS CREATED IN APRIL OF 2018.
AND THEN THE, UM, MEMBERS WERE APPOINTED IN MAY THE NEXT MONTH, A MONTH LATER.
SO I CAN SEND THAT JUST SO YOU ALL CAN SEE WHAT THAT RESOLUTION AND THE GUIDELINES LOOK LIKE, AND WE CAN KIND OF GO FROM THERE.
AND THEY KIND OF HAD A YEAR TO IT.
IT JUST SAID LIMITED DURATION.
IT ACTUALLY DIDN'T SEE BUT OF COURSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE DEADLINE ALREADY.
YEAH, THE DEADLINE WAS THE ANNIVERSARY AND SO APRIL, 2019 WAS THE, YEAH, SO IT DIDN'T SPELL IT OUT, BUT I THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST ASSUMED THAT THAT WAS YEAH.
18 MONTHS SEEM LIKE A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME.
THEY CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND REQUEST THEIR TIME TO BE EXTENDED TO YOU AND YOU CAN DO THAT VERY EASILY.
SO LINK AND I'LL, I'LL SEND THAT, THOSE AGENDA ITEMS TO YOU ALL.
CAN YOU SEND THOSE IN SEPARATE EMAILS? YES.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE 50TH GUIDELINES AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THERE THAT'S, UH, WORTHY OF APPLICATION.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU FOR THE BRIEFING.
SO DAVID, YOU CAN TURN OFF THE LIVE STREAM PLEASE.