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          OKAY, WE'RE ON. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. 
          GOOD DAVE, THANK 
          [ Brentwood City Commission Briefing February 20, 2025 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the February 24th Agenda, the items below will be discussed:  Voluntary address-based irrigation schedules "3-feet, It's the Law" signage Request from the League of Women Voters for use of Commission Chambers for a candidate forum This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
YOU ALL FOR BRAVING THE COLD THIS MORNING. 
          THESE ARE SORT OF DANGEROUSLY LOW TEMPERATURES AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT THIS MORNING. 
          UM, DO WE NEED TO WAIT FOR ANN? I KNOW KEN'S NOT GONNA ANN WELL, I MAKE IT THIS MORNING. 
          THE TEMPERATURES IN THE WEATHER IS KIND OF KEEPER AT THE HOUSE TODAY, SO, OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE DO START OFF OUR MEETING ON MONDAY WITH AN ECD MEETING AND A REPORT FROM, UM, FROM KATHLEEN. 
          SHE'LL GIVE YOU THE FINANCIAL REPORT. 
          UH, KAREN, UH, SHOULD BE BACK AS WELL AND NOT A WHOLE LOT TO REPORT THERE. 
          ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE, OUR REVENUES ARE COMING IN A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN THEY WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF SOME ONE-TIME MONIES. 
          AN INTERNAL TRANSFER WE HAD LAST YEAR THAT DOESN'T RECUR THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PROBABLY ON TARGET. 
          WE DO HAVE A ONE ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THAT IS AMENDING OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY BECAUSE IT STILL REFERENCES THIS BUILDING AS THE LOCATION FOR ECD AND IT NEEDS TO BE REFERENCING, UH, NINE 10 HERITAGE WAY. 
          AND SO WE START OFF THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING WITH SOME EXCITEMENT WITH THE PINNING OF THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS. 
          AND CHIEF JIM COLEMAN, ASSISTANT CHIEF NICK SURRY, CAPTAIN AJ WHEATLEY, LIEUTENANT CHRIS WOODARD, SERGEANT CHUCK CASTLEBERRY, AND LIEUTENANT ADRIAN BREED LOVE. 
          I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS PACKED WITH FAMILY MEMBERS. 
          ALL EXCITED ABOUT THOSE PENDINGS. 
          SO, AND THEN THE REST OF THE AGENDA, YOU'LL NOTE WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING ON CONSENT. 
          SO WE'LL START OFF WITH, UH, AN ITEM WITH JUST SECOND READING, UH, AND FINAL READING FOR THE REZONING OF THE 0.41 ACRES, UH, WEST OF SPLIT LOG ROAD THAT IS PART OF THE ROSEBROOK SOUTH SUBDIVISION. 
          YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AND THE WETLAND THAT WAS DETERMINED TO NO LONGER BE A WETLAND. 
          THIS ACTUALLY WORKS TO THE ADVANTAGE OF THE SPLIT LOG ROAD, UH, WIDENING PROJECT. 
          IT GIVES US SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE SO THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE LAND THAT'S GONNA BE DEDICATED TO THE DRIVEWAY SPLIT LOG ROAD. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY HELPFUL AND THIS REZONING WILL TAKE THAT PROPERTY FROM OSRD TO R TWO AND YOU CAN SEE THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN THIS AREA HERE. 
          SO THE NEXT ITEM IS RELATED TO IT, BUT A LITTLE BIT LARGER IN SCOPE. 
          AND THAT'S A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          UH, FOUR ROSEBROOK SOUTH. 
          AND I'M GONNA FLIP BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THESE TWO SLIDES. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES. 
          OF COURSE, THERE IS THE 0.41 ACRES THAT'S INCLUDED HERE, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME CHANGES WITH RELATION TO LOT LAYOUT, ROADWAY CONFIGURATION, HOW THIS TIES IN UP HERE. 
          UM, YOU HAVE SHOWN OVER HERE ON THE REVISED PLAN NOW THE HISTORIC CEMETERY, WHICH WAS NOT SHOWN ON THE PREVIOUS PLAN. 
          AND THERE'S ACCESS PROVIDED TO THE HISTORIC CEMETERY. 
          THERE IS THIS PROPERTY HERE, WHICH IS THE EXISTING HOME ON SITE, WHICH WAS DETERMINED UNFORTUNATELY TO BE BEYOND REPAIR. 
          THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO DEMOLISH THAT, THAT, UH, ON SUMMER HOME. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND SO THAT CHANGE HAS BEEN MADE AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER MINOR CHANGES WITH REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, UM, OPEN SPACE CONFIGURATION. 
          TODD, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO JUMP IN HERE IF YOU THINK I'VE MISSED ANYTHING. 
          UM, UH, THE, THE NUMBER OF LOTS STAYS THE SAME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, THE EXCESS OPEN SPACE DECREASED SLIGHTLY FROM 16.60 ACRES TO 16.08 ACRES. 
          UM, BUT JAY COVERED EVERYTHING. 
          ALL THE PROPOSED WEEKS GO, GO BACK TO WHEN, WHEN THE HISTORIC HOME IS THERE. 
          SO IT'S NOT HISTORIC OR SORRY, THE, THE OLD HOME IS THERE. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND THEN GO FORWARD. 
          'CAUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE ONE LARGE LOT. 
          SO THEN IT'S TWO. 
          DID THEY CHANGE SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ELSE? IF THIS NUMBER OF LOTS ARE THE SAME, SEE HOW THAT'S ONE THERE WITH THE HOME AND THEN NOW TWO. 
          WELL, THEY WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE JUST ADJUSTED THE O YOU KNOW, THE VARIOUS LOT SIZES. 
          IF YOU LOOK OKAY TO THE OTHER, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE LOT SIZE IS NOW IF YOU GET LARGER. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE NUMBER OF LOTS STAYS THE SAME? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          DOESN'T INCREASE BY LIKE ONE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          IT STAYS THE SAME. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL, THEY WERE ABLE TO DESIGNATE THE HI THE CEMETERY AND, UH, HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. 
          THAT WAS NICE TO DO. 
          ALRIGHT, THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ON THAT. 
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ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A CHANGE ORDER WITH PRO SHOT CONCRETE. 
          AND RECALL THAT WE WENT OUT IN 2022 FOR BIDS ON PIPELINING AND REPAIR AND THEY WERE THE ONLY CONTRACTOR TO RESPOND. 
          UH, HOWEVER, THEY HAVE DONE VERY GOOD WORK FOR US. 
          AND TODD IS ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER EXTENDING THEIR CONTRACT, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS TIME WITH A 2.9% CPI AND WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY $700,000 LINED UP IN 2026, UH, WORTH OF WORK FOR THEM TO DO, SOME OF WHICH IS OUR FUNDS, SOME OF WHICH IS NOT. 
          UM, QUESTIONS, TODD'S HERE TO ANSWER. 
          HE'S GOT SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA HERE, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HE CAN ANSWER 'EM FOR YOU. 
          SORRY. 
          NEXT ITEM IS A CHANGE ORDER WITH FOUR STAR. 
          AND AGAIN, UH, RE-UPPING WITH THAT CONTRACTOR. 
          THIS WILL BE THE, UH, SECOND ELIGIBLE EXTENSION, UM, THE FOURTH YEAR OVERALL OF THE CONTRACT. 
          AND, UH, THIRD. 
          THIRD. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE GOT DIFFERENT, YEAH, SECOND EXTENSION, THIRD YEAR, I BELIEVE. 
          THIRD, THIRD YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'VE GOT THE WORD THIRD IN HERE. 
          BUT ANYWAYS, THERE'S A CPI IN THERE AS WELL FOR 2.9% AND SOME $3.3 MILLION OR SO IN POTENTIAL WORK THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED. 
          ALTHOUGH IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE PROGRESS, UM, WHAT PUBLIC WORKS IS ABLE TO GET THEM AND REALLY HOW FAR THE MONEY GOES. 
          BUT, UM, I ASK FOR CONSIDERATION OF RE-UPPING WITH THEM ONE MORE TIME. 
          NEXT ITEM. 
          WE HAVE DONATION AND SURPLUS OF THREE VEHICLES. 
          TWO ON THE TOP, UH, ARE OLDER VEHICLES. 
          THIS SERVICE TRUCK, I THINK IS A 2011, UH, SUPER DUTY. 
          AND THEN THIS TRUCK HERE IS A 2013, UM, SPARTAN PIERCE MINI PUMPER. 
          AND THE ENGINE IS BLOWN ON IT. 
          WE DO NOT PLAN TO REPLACE THAT AS PART OF OUR FLEETS. 
          WE'VE KIND OF CHANGED OUR SERVICE MODEL, DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS A, IS THE BEST APPARATUS TO SUIT OUR NEEDS ANYMORE. 
          AND SO WE WOULD SURPLUS BOTH OF THESE, PUT THEM ON THE MARKET FOR BID. 
          AND THEN THIS VEHICLE DOWN HERE, UH, HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE NORTH ROBERTSON VOLUNTEER FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT TO BE DONATED. 
          WE CONSIDER IT TO BE A FAIRLY NOMINAL VALUE AND THE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT REQUEST AND DONATE THAT TO NORTH ROBERTSON. 
          WE HAVE A MINOR REVISION TO THE, UH, RULES AND REGULATIONS, UM, PERSONNEL RULES AND REGULATIONS. 
          AND WE'VE HAD A SITUATION COME UP IN ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE ON A FOUR DAY WORK WEEK WHO WE NEED TO BRING BACK FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK. 
          POLICY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS VERY TIGHTLY WORDED. 
          DOESN'T REALLY PROVIDE THE CITY MANAGER WITH ANY DISCRETION BEYOND TWO TIMES A YEAR TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE TRANSPORTATION ALLOWANCE. 
          SO THEY WOULD'VE A FOUR DAY TRANSPORTATION ALLOWANCE, BUT BE WORKING FIVE DAYS A WEEK. 
          WE'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM THE FIFTH DAY. 
          AND SO WHERE THERE ARE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE THAT, THIS IS A SHORT STAFFING SITUATION, LIKE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE THE DISCRETION TO MAKE CHANGES LIKE THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPOSAL WOULD DO. 
          AND TODD, ONCE AGAIN HAS A PROPOSED, UM, AGREEMENT WITH MOODY GRADE WORKS. 
          AND THIS ONE IS TO REBUILD THE HISTORICAL ROCK WALL WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND WITH SOME EXCITEMENT. 
          I THINK I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO TODD AND LET HIM TELL YOU WHAT THE PLAN IS. 
          I'M GLAD SOMEBODY'S EXCITED. 
          , THE RESIDENTS ARE EXCITED. 
          THEY ARE. 
          WE HAVE GOTTEN A UNIQUELY, UH, ROBUST POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM MANY PEOPLE. 
          I, I BE HONEST, I, I MEAN, I WASN'T AGAINST THE PROJECT FROM THE BEGINNING, I WAS JUST KIND OF INDIFFERENT, BUT I DID NOT EXPECT SUCH A POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. 
          NOTABLE NE NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, SMALL, LIKE YOU'VE GOT THE LANE BLOCKED FOR HALF HOUR WHILE YOU PICK UP DEBRIS KIND OF THING, BUT NOTHING MAJOR. 
          UM, SO MUCH OF THAT CREDIT GOES TO JOHN. 
          ONE OF HIS FIRST BIG ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN HIS NEW ROLE IS KINDA LEADING THAT. 
          AND HE WAS ABLE TO GET IT SCHEDULED AS I THOUGHT WE WOULD THROUGHOUT THE WINTER MONTHS. 
          THEY'VE WRAPPED UP ALL THE CUTTING AND TRIMMING. 
          UM, THERE ARE A FEW MORE LARGER SCALE TREES THAT HAD TO COME DOWN ONCE WE KINDA UNCOVERED THEM AND SAW THEIR CONDITION. 
          UM, THAT TIGHT WOODED TREE LINE KIND OF HID A LOT OF THINGS FROM 
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THE EYE. 
          SO, UH, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU ALL AGREE IT LOOKS GOOD. 
          IT'S OPENED UP REMNANTS OF THE ROCK WALL. 
          IT'S ALSO OPENED UP VISIBILITY TO SOME OF THE CULVERTS AND THINGS THAT ARE THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE. 
          I ACTUALLY NOTICED SATURDAY NIGHT WHEN WE WERE IN HOW MUCH WATER THE MEDIUM HOLDS IN SOME SPOTS DURING A HEAVY RAIN. 
          UH, I, I GUESS I'VE NEVER NOTICED THAT WITH THE TREE LINE, BUT SOME OF THOSE OBSERVATIONS ARE UNIQUE. 
          BUT NOW THAT THE WORK FOR OUR WORK OF CUTTING IS DONE, UH, WE WANTED TO HONOR Y'ALL'S REQUEST TO KIND OF EVALUATE REBUILDING PORTIONS OF THE ROCK WALL. 
          YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT I HAD THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FRANKLIN ROAD AND MURRAY LANE REBUILT AS A TRIAL PROJECT. 
          MOODY GRADE WORKS DOES A LOT OF OUR CONCRETE WORK. 
          THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF OUR A DA CONCRETE RETROFIT APRONS. 
          THEY DO CURB WORK FOR US, VERY RELIABLE COMPANY, UM, THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH, BUT THEY'RE NOT HISTORIC WALL REBUILDERS. 
          SO I HAD ASKED THEM TO REBUILD THAT CORNER SECTION AND KIND OF JUST GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD COST, UH, TO DO IT AND HOW, HOW IMPRESSED WE MIGHT BE WITH THEIR WORK. 
          AND I'M ACTUALLY REALLY SURPRISED AT HOW WELL IT TURNED OUT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, WE'VE ALSO MET WITH A HISTORIC ROCK WALL REBUILDER THAT COMES WITH A MUCH LARGER PRICE TAX. 
          SO GIVEN THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THIS WORK AND THE, UH, LENGTHS OF WALL THAT COULD BE REBUILT, I THINK I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND WE, WE DO A WAIVER OF COMPETITIVE BID AND, AND WORK WITH MOODY GRADE WORK AND TRY AND, UH, AFFORD THEM THE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT. 
          IT MAY TAKE AS LONG AS 12 MONTHS TO BUILD 1500 FEET OR SO OF WALL. 
          THAT, UH, 1500 FEET IS REALLY A NON-SCIENTIFIC ESTIMATE THAT JOHN AND I CAME UP WITH JUST LOOKING AT THE REMNANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          SO HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO EITHER SHORTEN THE SEGMENTS OF WALL THAT I THINK WE CAN DO OR LENGTHEN WHERE WE HAVE MORE ROCK THAN WE ANTICIPATED IS GONNA BE HUGE. 
          I'M PROPOSING THAT WE LOOK AT SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE MEDIANS TO ALMOST CREATE LIKE A GATEWAY FEATURE. 
          UM, SO LIKE RIGHT WHERE YOU WOULD TURN ONTO THE ROAD WHERE YOU WOULD SEE A SEGMENT OF HISTORIC WALL, IT WON'T BE THROUGHOUT OF COURSE, UM, BUT FIRST STARTING DOWN HERE BY FRANKLIN ROAD, THERE'S ABOUT 160 FEET OVER TWO, UM, SHORT SEGMENTS THERE. 
          AND THEN I THINK WE CAN DO ANOTHER 200 FEET RIGHT THERE AT MCGAVICK, UH, ROAD ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE OF MCGAVICK. 
          UM, KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THOSE SEGMENTS ARE. 
          I GUESS I CAN USE THE POINTER, BUT I'M, I'M SORRY, I'M, I FEEL LIKE I GOT SOME REST LAST NIGHT, BUT COGNITIVELY, I'M JUST, I'M SLOWER THAN USUAL. 
          SO YOU'RE DOING GREAT. 
          THERE'S A 60 FOOT SECTION RIGHT AT THE END OF FRANKLIN ROAD, AND THEN THERE'S THAT CULVERT THAT TAKES UP ABOUT 20 FEET AND THERE'D BE ANOTHER A HUNDRED FOOT SECTION. 
          UM, AND JUST FOR, I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE IN, IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT JUST FOR YOUR OWN KIND OF, UH, ESTIMATING PURPOSES, THAT THAT SEGMENT, IF IT'S TRULY 160 FEET AT TWO FOOT TALL WOULD COME IN AT ABOUT $9,600 WITH MOODY, UM, WHICH IS ABOUT A THIRD OF WHAT IT WOULD COST, UH, MAYBE 40% OF WHAT IT WOULD COST IF WE USED THE HISTORIC, UH, ROCK WALL REBUILDS. 
          UM, YES. 
          QUICK QUESTION. 
          SO ON THE PREVIOUS, I GUESS ON THIS SLIDE AS WELL, WE, WHERE IT SPECIFIES USING EXISTING STONES. 
          SO IS THAT KIND OF THE, THE KEY FACTOR AND IS THAT ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ST. 
          MOODY'S AND THE, UM, THE HISTORIC RESTORATION COMPANY IS ACCESS TO MATERIAL AND HOW MUCH THEY CAN BRING INTO TO REBUILD? SO I APOLOGIZE IF I'M NOT STANDING IN A GREAT SPOT FOR YOU TWO. 
          I FEEL LIKE I'M OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, BASED ON THE INFORMATION I'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND MM-HMM . 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT HISTORIC LIKE DESIGNATIONS, THINGS LIKE OUR HISTORIC HOMES WHEN THEY'RE DESIGNATED AND KIND OF CERTIFIED FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, IS HISTORIC. 
          IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THAT DESIGNATION, YOU HAVE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS TO KEEP IT DESIGNATED AS SUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BEST I'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND, THIS IS NOT DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC, BUT WE ALL KIND OF KNOW IT IS. 
          IT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. 
          SO LESS A DESIGNATION LIKE THAT, UNLESS WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE SOME SORT OF DESIGNATION, WHICH I'M NOT EVEN SURE IS AVAILABLE FOR A ROCK WALL, I'D HAVE TO LOOK FURTHER AT THAT, THEN THERE'S NO REAL REQUIREMENT TO USE SOMEBODY WHO IS A HISTORIC ROCK WALL REBUILD. 
          YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, WE COULD POTENTIALLY 
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ADD ROCK TO IT THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE COST. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND IT MAY CHANGE THE, LOOK I'M PROPOSING ALL EXISTING STONES THAT ARE LAYING OUT THERE TODAY KIND OF BE GATHERED TO BUILD THESE SEGMENTS. 
          AND AS I TOUCHED ON A MOMENT AGO, IT'S NOT A SCIENTIFIC ESTIMATE, IT'S A, YEAH, IT'S A BEST GUESS SCENARIO. 
          I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT IN OUR NUMBER. 
          IF ANYTHING, I THINK IT MIGHT GROW IN LENGTH IN DIFFERENT SPOTS. 
          UM, BUT IT MAY HAVE TO BE TRIMMED IN CERTAIN SPOTS AND LENGTHENED IN OTHER SPOTS BASED ON WHERE THAT ROCK IS. 
          IT, IT, IT WOULD BE VERY LABOR INTENSE TO GATHER THE ROCK FROM SAY, THE EAST END AND MOVE IT TO THE WEST END. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH KIND OF THE AREAS WHERE THERE'S A GOOD DEAL OF ROCK REMNANT NEARBY, UM, BUT ALSO TO TRY AND CREATE THOSE GATEWAY APPEARANCES, IF YOU WILL. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M DRIVING AT. 
          SO REALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THE AT THE CORE IS WE'RE TAKING MATERIAL THAT'S ON SITE ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND REAPPLYING IT AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE TO GET TO, TO GET A NICE RESULT. 
          AND IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL HAVE GONE OUT THERE AND WALKED THE AREA TO GET A FEEL FOR HOW MUCH MATERIAL IS ON SITE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          ASSUMING THAT PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP AND TRUCK IT OFF WHILE WE'RE CLEAR CLEARING IT OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE ADDED SOME SIGNS. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING, BUT WE'VE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNS THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, TRY AND HELP US PRESERVE HISTORY, LEAVE THE ROCKS ALONG. 
          SO SOME OF IT'S TWO FEET TALL AND SOME'S FOUR, I ASSUME THE TWO IS FOR VISIBILITY WHEN THE CARS ARE COMING IN AND OUT ON THE, SOME OF, WELL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, BUT IT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF THE VOLUME OF ROCK THAT'S IN A CERTAIN SPOT. 
          OKAY. 
          MORE THAN ANYTHING, THE AREAS WHERE I'M PROPOSING SOME FOUR FOOT HIGH WALL IS WHERE THE CENTER OF THE MEDIAN IS LOWER THAN THE ROAD HEIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO ADDING IT AT A HIGHER ELEVATION TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE VISIBLE, PLUS THERE JUST SEEMS TO BE AN ABUNDANCE OF REMINT ROCK THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS A SMALL SEGMENT. 
          UH, AT MCGAVIC ROAD IT WOULD BE ABOUT 200 FEET LONG. 
          AGAIN, ROUGHLY TWO FEET TALL. 
          THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $12,000 FOR THAT SEGMENT. 
          UM, AND THEN THROUGHOUT, YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE SECTION HERE JUST WEST OF MCGAVIC, ANOTHER SECTION JUST BEFORE THAT. 
          WELL NOW A LOT OF IT'S OPEN, BUT PREVIOUSLY WE HAD AN OPENING KIND OF THERE. 
          UH, JUST BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT OPENING, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION AND THEN THERE'S A LENGTHIER SECTION DOWN BY THE CEMETERY. 
          UM, SOME OF THAT WILL BE FOUR FOOT TALL. 
          AND, AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO GO IN GREATER DETAIL, BUT I WANT TO KIND OF, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, YOU, I THINK YOU ALL GET WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. 
          UM, SO THERE YOU CAN SEE IT'S, IT'S KINDA LOWER ELEVATION. 
          THERE WILL BE HIGHER SEGMENTS. 
          UH, THERE, THAT PARTICULAR SECTION WAS 48,000 ESTIMATE. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, THAT'S ALREADY A GOOD THREE, FOUR FEET TALL. 
          SO KEEPING WITH THAT, MOST PLACES, I WOULD SAY THE WALL'S GONNA BE BUILT RIGHT WHERE IT IS TODAY. 
          HOWEVER MUCH OF THE DEGRADATION OF THE WALL IS PROBABLY BECAUSE THE TREES AND THE ROOTS HAVE SHIFTED THINGS. 
          SO IN SOME CASES WE MAY BE MOVING JUST A COUPLE OF FEET. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WILL CENTER IT IN THE MEDIAN AT ALL. 
          IT'S PREDOMINANTLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MEDIAN, BUT IT MIGHT SHIFT OVER A COUPLE OF FEET IN SOME SPACES JUST TO KIND OF CLEAR TREES. 
          BUT IT'LL BE, FOR THE MOST PART, A STRAIGHT SEGMENT OF WALL. 
          UH, WHAT'S THE CLOSEST THAT THE WALL WILL BE TO THE ROAD WOULD PROBABLY BE ON THAT SOUTH SIDE. 
          SO IF YOU'RE EASTBOUND, HOW MANY FEET? UM, IT'S CURRENTLY PROBABLY SIX OR SEVEN FEET OFF THE CURB. 
          THAT IS, WE WOULDN'T GO ANY CLOSER. 
          UH, IF WE'RE MOVING THE LOCATION ANY, IT'S GONNA BE CLOSER TO THE CENTER. 
          SO I'D SAY NO, NO CLOSER THAN YOU SEE IT TODAY IN THAT EASTBOUND LANE, WHICH IS PROBABLY ABOUT SIX FEET OFF THE CURB. 
          WOULD YOU AGREE, JOHN? SIX, SEVEN FEET? UM, IN SOME CASES IT MIGHT APPEAR, APPEAR TO BE CLOSER BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF TUMBLING TOWARDS THE CURB, BUT ONCE WE REBUILD THE WALL, THE ACTUAL FACE WOULD BE FURTHER BACK. 
          AND THAT IS THAT IN KEEPING WITH, UH, OUR CODES IN GENERAL OR SOME OF THIS GRANDFATHER DID? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE IF I'M LOOKING AT TODD, I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU ARE PREPARED TO EVEN HELP ME ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT THAT'S OKAY. 
          WE CAN GET AN ANSWER, GET THAT ANSWER. 
          BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS SOMEONE SAYING, WELL, HOW COME YOU ALL CAN BUILD THAT CLOSE TO THE ROAD? UH, AND, BUT WE AS A PRIVATE ENTITY CANNOT JUST KIND OF GOING FROM MEMORY. 
          THERE'S A NUMBER OF SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE A SMALL ISLAND TO ENTRANCE FEATURE AND THERE'S A SIGN THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY IN THAT RANGE. 
          SO I'LL, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK, BUT THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THEY'RE, WE'RE PROBABLY SAFE. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE'VE CLEARED ALL THIS UNDER GROWTH ALREADY, BUT THERE'S A SEGMENT, UH, JUST BEFORE THE CEMETERY. 
          THE CEMETERY WALL IS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. 
          I'M NOT EVEN SURE 
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IF THAT'S HISTORIC ROCK OR IF THAT WAS BROUGHT IN. 
          IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IT WAS BROUGHT IN, BUT IT, IT, IT APPEARS TO BE ALL, UH, CONSISTENT IN APPEARANCE. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A SECTION JUST DOWN THERE BY, UH, IS THAT POST OAK CURLY BAR? I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT GOOD, GOOD SPRINGS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THEN THAT VERY LAST SEGMENT OF THE MEDIAN, THERE'S TWO SMALLER SECTIONS AS WELL. 
          SO ALL TOLD, AGAIN, I'M, I'M KIND OF SPEEDING THROUGH THIS FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME, BUT I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. 
          UM, THESE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS ALL TOLD, I ESTIMATE THAT 16, I'M SORRY, I SAID 1500, 1685 FEET OF WALL AT THOSE TWO DIFFERENT HEIGHTS. 
          TWO FOOT AND FOUR FOOT HEIGHTS WOULD COME IN AT ABOUT $134,100. 
          UM, WE HAVE MORE THAN THAT BUDGETED. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST AS NEEDED. 
          AND I THINK IT COULD TAKE AS MUCH AS 12 MONTHS FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO DO THE ENTIRE SECTION. 
          BUT THEY WOULD WORK LIKE THEY DID AT THE CORNER, SMALLER SECTIONS AND KIND OF COMPLETE SOMETHING AND THEN COME BACK AND WORK ON OTHER SECTIONS. 
          UM, COMPARED TO THE, THE OTHER COSTS FROM THE OTHER CONTRACTOR I'VE MET WITH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A, A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE IN, IN COST FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF ESTIMATED WORK. 
          UM, SO THAT KIND OF SUMS EVERYTHING UP. 
          I WENT TOO FAR. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. 
          YES, IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS GREAT. 
          Y'ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. 
          SORRY, DON'T F*****G AWAY. 
          NO, IT'S GREAT. 
          IT'S GREAT. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND JUST SEGMENTING OUT LIKE THAT AND IT MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT IF THEY'RE TRYING TO FIT IT INTO THEIR SCHEDULE, THIS ISN'T THEIR, UM, NECESSARILY THEIR WHEELHOUSE. 
          SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT IT MAY TAKE SOME TIME, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          I THINK THE RESIDENTS WILL SEE THAT IT'S PROGRESSING. 
          UM, ONE OF MY CONCERNS, AND YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS OFFLINE, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE IT WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, WAS THAT, UM, MAYBE THIS COMPANY WAS USING MORTAR OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, A CINDER BLOCK, KIND OF LIKE THE CEMETERY WALL, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, THAT WOULD GO AGAINST THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE BUILDING AND THE FENCE. 
          RIGHT? SO YOU AFFIRMED THAT THERE WAS NOT MORTAR USED, IT WAS ALL DRY STACK, WHICH IS THE INDICATIVE, UM, STONE AND FENCE IN THIS AREA. 
          SO IT'S STILL DRY STACK AND THEY WOULD STILL DO DRY STACK WITH THE MATERIALS THAT ARE THERE PERCENT. 
          YEP. 
          SO THAT'S GREAT NEWS. 
          AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FINDING A COMPANY WHO IS CAPABLE OF DOING THIS. 
          I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR, IT DOES BRING HISTORIC, UH, A HISTORIC NATURE BACK TO THE AREA AND PRESERVING IT WITHOUT THE MORTAR, IT'S SO IMPORTANT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          WE DID FIND ON THAT CORNER SECTION THAT THEY BUILT, THERE WAS SOME NON-NATIVE LIKE MANUFACTURED BRICKS AND THINGS THAT WERE IN WITH THAT RUBBLE THAT YOU JUST DIDN'T SEE. 
          BUT WHEN YOU GO TO REBUILDING IT, THAT'S BEEN REMOVED. 
          SO IN KEEPING WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, NOT ONLY IS IT DRY STACKED AND EXISTING STONE, WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE OUT ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T REALLY FIT THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          DOING A GOOD JOB. 
          AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL DOING THAT. 
          LIKE, I'M, I'M NOT SURE THOSE WALLS ARE ALL AS OLD AS YOU THINK , YOU KNOW? RIGHT. 
          YEAH, NO, IT, SO LIKE I SAID, FINDING OTHER STUFF IN THERE, THAT'S HOW MARY LANE USED TO RUN IT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, IT WAS THE SOUTH SIDE WAS WHERE THE ROAD ACTUALLY WAS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT ACTUALLY LOOKED MUCH SIMILAR TO, BUT THE MALL WAS A WALL THERE AT THAT TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT WAS KIND OF, IT WASN'T USED TO HOLD IN LIVESTOCK ANYMORE, SO IT WAS, SO PARTS OF IT ARE PROBABLY OLD PARTS OF IT, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH. 
          I THINK SOME CONTRACTORS AND OTHER FOLKS WHO JUST SORT OF PROPPED 'EM BACK UP AS WELL. 
          THERE'S PROBABLY SOME FARMER ENGINEERING IN THERE, . 
          THAT'S PROBABLY ALL, DON'T KNOCK THAT. 
          I'M NOT KNOCKING IT. 
          I'M JUST SAYING. 
          SO I LOVE THE GATEWAY KIND OF CONCEPT TOO. 
          THAT'S REALLY GOOD. 
          GOOD, GOOD. 
          ONE QUICK QUESTION. 
          IF YOU HAVE A LINE OF ROCK LIKE YOU HAVE HERE MM-HMM . 
          THEY ATTEMPT TO CLEAR THAT LINE IF THEY'RE REBUILDING THAT AREA AND LEVEL IT, OR DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA START WITH SO IN PLACES WHERE NO, YOU, THEY WILL GO DOWN TO THE KIND OF THE DIRT. 
          THERE'S NOT A, A FOUNDATION OR A FOOTER FOR ANY OF THIS WALL. 
          IT'S REALLY JUST KIND OF STACKED ON TOP OF THE SOIL. 
          BUT, UH, IN SOME SPOTS THEY MAY EVEN KIND OF GRADE THE SOIL A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT EASIER TO BUILD. 
          BUT YEAH, THEY WOULD TAKE THAT AND SET IT ASIDE AND EITHER REBUILD RIGHT THERE, OR IN SOME CASES, VERY FEW CASES. 
          BUT THERE ARE SOME CASES BECAUSE OF TREES, THEY MIGHT MOVE IT A COUPLE OF FEET TO THE NORTH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU JOHN. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM. 
          FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A SWAP THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO, UM, FOR SOME EQUIPMENT WITH CENTER POINT VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE BEEN MOVING TO 5,500 P-S-I-S-C-B-A GEAR. 
          AND THE CENTER POINT FIRE DEPARTMENT IS STILL ON 4,500 PSI GEAR, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE ACQUIRED SOME ADAPTERS THAT ARE SUITED MORE FOR OUR EQUIPMENT THAN THEIR EQUIPMENT. 
          AND SO OUR, OUR DEALER HAS DETERMINED THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF A, 
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A EQUAL VALUE SWAP THAT COULD BE MADE BETWEEN THE DEPART TWO DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND BRIAN HAS PROPOSED DOING THAT, UH, WITH THIS EQUIPMENT HERE. 
          UM, BRIAN, THE VALUE OF THE SWAP, IT WOULD BE THREE OF OUR WRIT PACKS. 
          AND THIS IS A SECONDARY MARKET OPTION. 
          AND THEY'RE HARD TO FIND BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THEM, THEY SCRAP, I MEAN, BUT THERE'S STILL VALUE TO THEM. 
          THEY'RE OVER, OVER 10 YEARS OLD. 
          UM, SO THEIRS IS ROUGHLY 25 TO 2700, 900 TIMES THREE. 
          SO PRETTY CLOSE TO IT. 
          SO, AND WE TRY TO WORK OUT THAT WHEN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE, THESE ENTITIES, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IT'S AQUI PRO QUO SITUATION, UH, TO SELL THESE OUTRIGHT. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THE ANYTHING WE, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE. 
          SO ANY MONEY WE GET BACK OF GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND, WE'D HAVE TO BUDGET THESE ADAPTERS TO OUR BUDGET THIS WAY. 
          SO IT ENABLES US TO GET THAT SO COST BASIS PRETTY MUCH, BUT THEY'RE JUST A WRONG ORDER FOR THEM. 
          FOR THE, THE, YEAH. 
          WHAT, UH, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          WE WENT THROUGH THE VENDOR THAT WE USE, THE SAME VENDOR THAT THEY DO, UH, THE PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING RELATED TO BREATHING APPARATUS, ONCE YOU TAKE POSSESSION OF IT, IT CANNOT BE RETURNED BECAUSE THERE'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S THEIR POLICY. 
          IT'S A POLICY OF, OF SCOTT AND ALL, ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES. 
          SO, UM, I THINK IT WAS AN ORDER ERROR. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ON THEIR SIDE OF THE MANUFACTURER'S SIDE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND A REMEDY TO THEM AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE GIVING INFORMATION TO US. 
          AND THAT'S HOW THE TWO OF US GOT PLUGGED TOGETHER. 
          ANDERS, LIKEWISE, THIS ONE WITH THE CENTERVILLE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR AN INTERAGENCY TRANSFER, IF YOU WILL, A SWAP OF EQUIPMENT, UH, RELATED TO THE FILL STATION AND NEW EDUCATORS. 
          THEY'RE CALLED DEDUCTORS E DEDUCTORS, DEDUCTORS, THANK YOU. 
          UM, A VALUE OF AROUND $1,500 AND OUR DEPARTMENT NEEDS YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO DO BOTH OF THOSE TRANSFERS. 
          ITEM TODD HAS YOUR RESURFACING REJUVENATION LIST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 WITH ABOUT $2.9 MILLION IN THE BUDGET APPROPRIATED FOR THAT PROGRAM AGAIN THIS YEAR. 
          AND THIS MAP KIND OF GIVES YOU GRAPHICAL ILLUSTRATION OF WHERE THOSE ROADWAYS ARE BOTH REJUVENATION, UH, RECITE APPLICATION AND THEN SOME ROADWAY PATCHING DONE. 
          EVERYTHING YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN WAS RESURFACED AS PART OF LAST, UH, FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING KIND OF RAMPING UP OUR REJUVENATION. 
          LAST YEAR WE DID ABOUT 60,000 SQUARE YARDS. 
          I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT TO ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE YARDS THAT THAT NUMBER WILL CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR BASED ON WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED AND WHAT STREETS IT'S APPROPRIATE TO APPLY ON. 
          YOU MIGHT RECALL WHEN I INITIALLY TOLD YOU ABOUT REJUVENATION, IT'S GENERALLY NOT APPROPRIATE ON HIGHER TRAFFIC VOLUME STREETS. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, WE DID SPLIT LOG ROAD A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THAT'S NOT A GREAT, UH, APPLICANT OR A GREAT SPOT TO APPLY RECITE. 
          SO WE'RE KIND OF NOT RECOMMENDING THAT. 
          AND THAT CHANGES THE, THE, THE OVERALL AMOUNT THIS COMING SPRING. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE RESURFACING CROCKETT ROAD. 
          AND SO AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE TO APPLY IT TO CROCKETT ROAD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOT THE BENEFITS THAT WE NEED TO SEE. 
          BUT IF THE MANUFACTURER OR THE VENDOR SAYS THAT'S NOT A GREAT ROAD DUE TO TRAFFIC VOLUMES, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO SKIP IT. 
          UM, SO THE GREEN IS ALL REJUVENATION. 
          THE RED IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO RESURFACE IN THE COMING YEAR. 
          I'LL BE HONEST, IT'S A LOT LESS RED AND SCATTERED THAN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 
          BUT THOSE LARGE SEGMENTS OF KNOX VALLEY AND, UH, GORDON PETTY AS WELL AS LIPSCOMB DRIVE ARE IN NEED OF RESURFACING. 
          AND THOSE BIG SEGMENTS OF ROAD, LIKE SPLIT LOG DID, LIKE CROCKETT ROAD IS TAKE UP A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF OUR BUDGET. 
          SO WE'RE DOING PRIORITY PROJECTS, BUT WE'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK IN ONE AREA AND THEN TRYING TO KIND OF SPREAD THE REST OF IT OUT, UM, IN A, IN A LOGISTIC MANNER SO THAT WE'RE COVERING ALL OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO COVER. 
          UM, THE ONE THING I'LL POINT OUT IS MOPPING ROAD, WE DID ABOUT SIX OR 800 FEET OF PATCHING ON MOPPING ROAD LAST YEAR. 
          UM, BECAUSE IT WAS LITERALLY COMING APART MUCH QUICKER THAN WE EXPECTED. 
          I THINK BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THE BUILDING THAT'S HAPPENING IN NOLANSVILLE, THAT HEAVY TRAFFIC IS COMING IN THROUGH BRENTWOOD AND WE CAN'T REALLY STOP IT. 
          UM, SO IT, IT DETERIORATED RAPIDLY WHEN THEY MILLED MOPPING ROAD TO DO THAT PATCH. 
          WHAT THEY FOUND IS THERE'S NO REAL BASE TO THAT ROAD. 
          SO IT'S LIKE THREE INCHES OF ASPHALT SURFACE ON TOP OF GRAVEL. 
          THERE'S NOT A BINDER COURSE IN THERE. 
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I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW THICK THE GRAVEL IS. 
          SO WHILE WE DID SPEND SOME HEFTY MONEY ON PATCHING THAT SEGMENT OF ROAD LAST YEAR, THE BEST RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT IS TO TRY AND GIVE THAT ROAD SOME ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE AND ADD ANOTHER INCH AND A HALF TO TWO INCHES OF SURFACE ON TOP OF THE EXISTING THREE INCHES TO GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE STRUCTURE WITHOUT HAVING TO TOTALLY REBUILD THE ROAD. 
          UM, GENERALLY THAT WOULD CAUSE ME A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN BECAUSE WHEN YOU RAISE THE ELEVATION, YOU CHANGE A LOT OF THE WAY WATER FLOWS IN THE STORM WATER EVENT. 
          BUT LOOKING AT THE FEW DRIVEWAYS AND PROPERTIES THAT COME OFF OF MOPPING ROAD, I THINK WE CAN ADJUST AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DRIVEWAY SO THAT THE WATER WILL GO AROUND. 
          SO YOU, YOU MAY SEE THAT THAT WAS ON LAST YEAR'S LIST AND IF YOU NOTICE THAT IT'S ON THIS YEAR'S LIST AGAIN, THAT'S WHY 'CAUSE IT WAS A PATCH LAST YEAR AND NOW IT'S AN OVERLAY OF OUR, OUR SEGMENT ROAD. 
          IF PART OF THE PROBLEM WAS ALL THE CONSTRUCTION IN NOLANSVILLE, ARE WE BUILDING A ROAD BACK FOR THEM TO, OR FIXING A ROAD THAT THEY'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA GET DESTROYED AGAIN. 
          I MEAN THERE'S NO GUARANTEES UNFORTUNATELY IN, IN MUCH THAT WE DO, BUT SHORT OF CLOSING THE ROAD, TOTALLY RIPPING IT OUT AND RECONSTRUCTING THAT ROAD TO OUR NEW STANDARDS, WHICH WOULD BE FAR MORE COSTLY AND, UM, INCONVENIENT FOR ALL IN THAT AREA. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS OUR BEST METHOD OF KIND OF MOVING FORWARD AND TRYING TO PROTECT OURSELF, BUT THERE'S NEVER ANY GUARANTEE UNFORTUNATELY. 
          SO, SO THAT'S REMINDS THAT MOIN ROAD IS, UH, DRAINAGE DITCHES, NOT, NOT, IT IS NOT SEWER OR STORM SORE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND AND MUCH OF IT'S NOT EVEN REALLY WELL-DEFINED DITCHES, IT'S, IT'S JUST KINDA WATER THAT ROLLS OFF THE ROAD INTO THOSE LARGER PROPERTIES. 
          GOTCHA. 
          IF, IF MOOP AND ROAD EVER DEVELOPS OUR SECTION OF BUMP AND ROAD EVER DEVELOPS WHERE IT'S MORE CONSISTENTLY BUILT HOMES THAN SOME IMPROVEMENTS WOULD NEED TO BE MADE YEAH. 
          TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. 
          AND IS THERE ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, I KNOW WE GENERALLY DON'T TAKE THE GRADE ALL OUT AND DIG OUT PRIVATE DRAINAGE DITCHES IF WE'RE OUT THERE DOING THIS SORT OF STUFF. 
          I MEAN, DOES ANYTHING LIKE THAT WARRANTED OR EVEN CONSIDERED OR IS IT BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO MITIGATE THE WATER DIFFERENCE THAT DRAIN? I DON'T THINK'S A GREAT NEED OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, TO YOUR POINT WHERE, WHERE DRAINAGE DITCHES HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, WE TAKE THE GRAD ALL OUT AND MAINTAIN THOSE AS BEST WE CAN. 
          BUT THERE'S A, IF YOU'RE INSTALLING SOMETHING NEW AND TRYING TO RETROFIT IT IN, THERE'S A LOT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT LIKE DRIVEWAY CULVERTS AND THE ELEVATIONS OF THOSE. 
          WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO CREATE IS A MOSQUITO POND IN SOMEBODY'S FRONT YARD. 
          SO WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF GOTTA WORK WITH THE ELEVATIONS OF THE INLETS AND OUTLETS THAT ARE AROUND. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO AT THIS POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE KIND OF, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT CLOSER. 
          WELL THAT SOUNDS SENSIBLE AND YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, THINGS HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. 
          YOU START MONKEYING AROUND WITH GRADES AND WATER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN END UP WITH MOSQUITO PINES AND WORSE AND MORE WATER . 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          COMMISSIONERS, EVERY YEAR WE APPROVE THIS LIST AND THEN WE GO ON AND PUBLIC WORKS DOES THEIR THING. 
          IN MANY COMMUNITIES THIS PROCESS IS A BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE DISTRICTS. 
          AND SO EACH OF YOU, IF YOU REPRESENT A DISTRICT, YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP DIFFERENTLY AND YOU THINK, WELL, HOW MUCH MONEY'S BEING BROUGHT BACK TO MY DISTRICT? AND THOSE CONSIDERATIONS COLORED THE DECISION MAKING RATHER THAN BEING MORE OF A DATA DRIVEN OR SUBJECTIVE, PROFESSIONAL, OPINION DRIVEN DECISION MAKING PROCESS. 
          IT'S MORE OF A POLITICAL DECISION MAKING PROCESS. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER REALLY POINTED THAT OUT, BUT IT'S REFRESHING AND NICE HERE THAT THIS IS THE BEST APPLICATION OF THOSE DOLLARS WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF ACTUALLY WHERE THOSE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT. 
          IF I MIGHT ADD SOMETHING BRIEFLY, WE, YOU RECALL LAST FALL WE DID A, UH, THIRD PARTY EVALUATION OF ALL OF OUR ROAD NETWORK AND THAT GENERATES A PCI SCORE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX. 
          UM, WE RANK IT LIKE 84.5 ON THAT INDEX, WHICH IS BASICALLY LIKE A PERCENTAGE OF ZERO TO A HUNDRED THAT IS REALLY HIGH THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, IN FACT, I WAS, I SHARED A PODCAST WITH JAY THE OTHER DAY. 
          THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX AND UH, IF YOU'RE 85 OR ABOVE, YOU'RE REALLY DOING SOMETHING RIGHT. 
          I CAN'T TAKE THE CREDIT FOR THAT, THAT'S JUST BRENTWOOD. 
          BUT AS WE SEE CONTINUED COSTS, INFLATION AND MAYBE SMALLER PIECES OF ROADWAY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THE CURRENT VALUE OF MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE, WE RISK LOSING THAT TO SOME DEGREE. 
          SO WE WANT TO BE SOMEWHAT CALCULATED IN HOW WE APPLY OUR DOLLARS AND WHERE, AND THESE ARE THE ROADS THAT RANK IN NEED. 
          SO. 
          COOL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, LASTLY FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE'VE GOT PURCHASE OF FOUR MOBILE RADIOS FOR THE TAHOES THAT WE HAVE ADDED TO THE FLEET THIS YEAR. 
          THEY'RE MOTOROLA A PX 6,500 AND PRICE IS $28,694 TO OUTFIT THOSE VEHICLES WITH MOBILE RADIOS 
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BUSINESS OR NEW BUSINESS. 
          AND SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT TALKING ABOUT VOLUNTARY ALTERNATE DAY IRRIGATION SCHEDULE. 
          TURN IT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I WOULD, UH, TRY AND BE BRIEF ON THIS. 
          UH, BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO ROLL OUT A, A PROGRAM, UM, THAT WOULD BASICALLY, UM, UH, PROVIDE A, A IRRIGATION SCHEDULE TO OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          UM, SO TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A QUICK LITTLE BACKGROUND ON KIND OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY, UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 10,000 CONNECTIONS TO OUR WATER SYSTEM. 
          UM, THOSE AREN'T CUSTOMERS, THOSE ARE PHYSICAL CONNECTIONS NEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          OUT OF THOSE 10,000, WE HAVE ABOUT 5,000 THAT ARE IRRIGATION RELATED. 
          SO OVER ALMOST HALF OF OUR CONNECTIONS ARE, HAVE, HAVE IRRIGATIONS SYSTEMS CONNECTED TO 'EM OF THOSE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. ALMOST ALL OF THEM TYPICALLY OPERATE ON A MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY IRRIGATION SCHEDULE. 
          AND OF THOSE DAYS THEY OPERATE BETWEEN BASICALLY 3:00 AM AND 7:00 AM. 
          SO WHAT THAT DOES IN OUR SYSTEM IS IT CREATES A PEAK DEMAND ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAYS, DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS FROM 3:00 AM TO 7:00 AM AND TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A, A SCALE OF MAGNITUDE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, OUR WINTER AVERAGE DAY FOR LAST YEAR, UM, SO, UH, AVERAGE DAY DURING THE WINTER MONTHS OF LAST YEAR, WE, UH, PROVIDED 3.3 MILLION GALLONS A DAY THIS PAST SUMMER FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST, WE TOOK, UH, AN AVERAGE DAY FOR THAT MONTH WAS 10.2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. 
          SO IT'S A HUGE SWING IN DEMAND, PRIMARILY RELATED TO IRRIGATION. 
          MOSTLY IT IS IRRIGATION. 
          UH, THE PEAK DAY DURING THAT AUGUST MONTH WAS 12.3 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. 
          SO WE WERE PROVIDING TO OUR CUSTOMERS 12.3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. 
          UM, LOT DISCLAIMER ON, ON AUGUST. 
          IT WAS A VERY DRY MONTH. 
          SO THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE HIGHER END, UM, THERE WERE SOME DROUGHT CONDITIONS FOR THE AREA. 
          UM, BUT OUR AVERAGE DAYS IN THE SUMMER AREN'T FAR OFF FROM THAT. 
          WE'RE STILL IN THE NINE TO TENS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UH, BASICALLY THAT MEANS WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE, UH, AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WATER THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THAT PUTS A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR ON EQUIPMENT, A LOT OF MECHANICAL PUMPS IN OUR SYSTEM. 
          UH, LARGER PIPES, UM, TRYING TO OPERATE AT A LITTLE HIGHER PRESSURES TO PUSH THAT WATER THROUGH THE SYSTEM AT THAT VOLUME. 
          UM, IT ALSO LONG TERM CAN TURN AROUND AND LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL COST. 
          SO DURING THE, DURING THE A A YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT FIVE MGD IF YOU AVERAGED OUT A YEAR FIVE MGD AS FAR AS DAILY USE. 
          SO, BUT I'M, WHEN I GO TO DESIGN SOMETHING, I'M HAVING TO DESIGN IT TO THAT 12.3 MGD OR, OR HIGHER. 
          UM, AND A LITTLE NOTE DURING THOSE SUMMER MONTHS, WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE WATER, NO ISSUES. 
          SO OUR CAPACITY CURRENTLY IS FINE. 
          UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY RATED AT A LITTLE HIGHER CAPACITY AT ABOUT 14 MGD FOR OUR SYSTEM. 
          SO CURRENTLY, UH, DON'T WANT TO SCARE ANYBODY, WE'RE OKAY. 
          WE CAN PROVIDE WATER. 
          UM, THIS IS KIND OF MORE OF A LONG TERM SUSTAINABLE, UM, PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING TO HELP THINGS OUT. 
          SO ANYWAY, SO HIGHER COST ASSOCIATED WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          'CAUSE WHEN WE START TO TRY AND DESIGN TO THOSE PEAK FLOWS FOR JUST A, YOU KNOW, KNOW, COUPLE DAYS IN A YEAR, A MONTH OR TWO IN A YEAR, UM, YOU'RE HAVING TO INCREASE YOUR PIPE SIZE PUMPS, BIGGER FOOTPRINTS OF STATIONS ARE BIGGER, ALL THAT STUFF. 
          WELL, AND ALSO THE CONTRACT WITH METRO TO BUY THE WATER. 
          WELL, AND THAT WAS, I WAS ABOUT TO ADD THAT. 
          SO, AND ALSO ANY FUTURE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY BUY OUR WATER FROM HARPER VALLEY AND METRO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING AND LOOKING AT FROM A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT STANDPOINT, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THOSE PEAK FLOWS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN MEET AND PROVIDE US WATER, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE INTERESTED AS PEAK FLOWS AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY TO GET, RECEIVE THOSE PEAK FLOWS. 
          SO IF WE CAN BRING THOSE DOWN FOR FUTURE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, THAT WILL HELP US TO HAVE A, A A, A LOWER, UH, PEAK FLOW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S KINDA WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IS AN ALTERNATE DAY IRRIGATION SCHEDULE. 
          SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS CURRENTLY WE'RE ON A MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY FOR MAJORITY OF OUR CUSTOMERS, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO A MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY FOR HALF. 
          THE OTHER HALF WOULD BE A TUESDAY, THURSDAY, SATURDAY. 
          NOW THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY IT'S SET UP, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY SETTLED IN ON A SPECIFIC, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SEQUENCE. 
          THE WAY THAT WOULD BE SPLIT UP AMONGST OUR CUSTOMERS, AND THIS IS KIND OF AN INDUSTRY STANDARD, WOULD BE EVEN ODD ADDRESSES. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE AN ODD ADDRESS, YOU'D BE ON A MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY SCHEDULE, UH, 
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IF YOU WERE EVEN ADDRESS TUESDAY, THURSDAY, SATURDAY. 
          IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. 
          AND DREW, THE REASON WE'RE ON KIND OF A MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, NOW IT'S JUST KIND OF A NATURAL INCLINATION THAT IRRIGATION CONTRACTORS HAVE TO STUDY PRIMARILY WHATEVER THE REASON THAT WAS KIND OF, THAT'S KIND OF THE INDUSTRY STANDARD AMONGST IRRIGATION COMPANIES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WHEN THEY GO TO PUT 'EM IN AND THEY, UH, UH, WORK, UH, SCHEDULE YOUR SYSTEM, IT'S A MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY FROM 3:00 AM TO 5:00 AM OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST NATURAL INCLINATION. 
          WELL, GERARD, I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT IDEA. 
          I MEAN, I, AND I KNOW A, A DIFFERENT VERSION OF THIS CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IS WHETHER OR NOT WE DO SELF-IMPOSED, YOU KNOW, WATERING BANS TO TRY TO REDUCE PEAK DEMAND. 
          AND PEOPLE IN BRENTWOOD TOLD IS THAT THEY REALLY DON'T WANNA RISK THEIR LANDSCAPING BY HAVING, YOU KNOW, NO WATER TIMES OR BLACKOUT PERIODS. 
          WHICH, WHICH I GET, I DON'T WANNA RISK, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF LANDSCAPING, BUT DEMAND SMOOTHING AND TAKING A LOOK AT PEAK DEMAND. 
          I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME WITH ELECTRICITY, RIGHT? I MEAN, EVEN LIKE RIGHT NOW WITH THE EVS AND THE DIFFERENT VEHICLES THAT ARE ROLLING OUT, THEY TALK A LOT ABOUT SCHEDULING YOUR RECHARGING OFF PEAK SO THAT YOU DON'T SPIKE YOUR POWER BILL AND IMAGINE PEAK DEMAND FOR WATER MAKES ALL SENSE. 
          THE SAME, THE SAME IDEA WITH ELECTRICITY THAT WE'VE SEEN KIND OF IN MORE RECENT YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          MOSTLY A VERY SENSIBLE KIND OF THING. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T HEAR YOU PROPOSING ANY KIND OF FINES. 
          I DON'T HEAR US PROPOSING ANY KIND OF LIMITS ON WATER. 
          AND WHAT I DO HEAR IS PROPOSING IS A SMART WAY TO MANAGE THE SYSTEM THAT THAT'LL BENEFIT EVERYBODY AND HELP SMOOTH THEIR DEMAND FOR WATER. 
          UM, SO I MEAN THAT, THAT, THAT SEEMS VERY POSITIVE. 
          NOW, I KNOW WE TALK A LOT, ESPECIALLY IN BUSINESS ABOUT HOW IT CAN HAVE THE BEST IDEA IN THE WORLD, BUT IMPLEMENTING THE RIGHT THING THE WRONG WAY CAN GET YOU A BAD RESULT. 
          SO I MEAN, REALLY THINKING THROUGH CAREFULLY THE COMMUNICATION STRATEGY TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT MISUNDERSTOOD THAT PEOPLE DON'T THINK IT'S A WATERING BAN OF SOME SORT, BUT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT SOUNDS REALLY SENSIBLE SO FAR. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO IT. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          AND SO YEAH, THE KIND OF THE REMAINDER OF, OF THE SLIDE IS ALL THAT BUNDLED UP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS VOLUNTARY. 
          SO, AND, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ANY TYPE OF RESTRICTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THIS WILL BE COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY. 
          UM, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING, YOU KNOW, A FLIP OF THE SWITCH AND EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE PERFECT AND ALL OUR DEMANDS GO DOWN AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          WE FIGURE IT'S BETTER TO BE A LITTLE PROACTIVE AND GO AHEAD AND, AND SLOWLY, UH, ROLL THIS OUT TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND GET BUY-IN FROM EVERYBODY. 
          FROM OUR IRRIGATION COMPANIES THAT DO A LOT OF WORK IN THE AREA, OUR HOAS THAT HAVE, UM, IRRIGATION SYSTEMS FOR THEIR OPEN SPACE. 
          UM, AND, AND BEGIN TO ROLL THIS OUT SO THAT MAYBE NOT NEXT YEAR, BUT IN THREE, FOUR YEARS, WE'VE ALREADY REACHED THE LEVEL THAT WE LIKE TO BE. 
          AND, AND, AND ALSO KINDA TO YOUR POINT, UM, WE BUY OUR WATER. 
          SO BEING A KIND OF A GOOD STEWARD TOWARDS OUR SUPPLIERS. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW HARPE VALLEY PROVIDES WATER FOR A MAJORITY OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY. 
          UH, WILLIAMSON COUNTY USES A LOT OF WATER, ESPECIALLY IRRIGATION RELATED. 
          SO IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND START TO, TO, TO WORK WITH THOSE OTHER UTILITIES AND STUFF, UM, IT, IT COULD HELP, UH, FUTURE DROUGHT CONDITIONS AND STUFF AS FAR AS HAVING TO GO TO SOME TYPE OF A, UH, UH, TRULY RESTRICT RESTRICTION ON WATER USE. 
          UM, KIND OF THE WAY WE'RE GONNA ROLL THIS OUT, THE PLAN IS TO REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO HOAS AND IRRIGATION COMPANIES. 
          UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IRRIGATION COMPANIES, BUT WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT THAT, A FEW THAT DO A LOT OF WORK IN BRENTWOOD. 
          SO WE FEEL THAT'S PROBABLY OUR BEST BANG FOR OUR BUG AS FAR AS DOING THIS TO REACH OUT TO THOSE COMPANIES, EDUCATE THEM, LET 'EM KNOW WHAT OUR KIND OF POLICY VOLUNTEER POLICY IS SO THAT AS THEY MAINTAIN OR INSTALL NEW IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, THAT SCHEDULING PATTERN IS ALREADY GONNA BE PUT IN BY THEM. 
          SO, UM, AS FAR AS OUR CUSTOMERS GO, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH CHARLES AND GONNA PLAN ON DOING LIKE A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN BASICALLY. 
          AGAIN, GOING TO LIST, YOU KNOW, IT'S VOLUNTARY, BUT JUST LET CUSTOMERS KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL AND KIND OF PROVIDE THAT TO 'EM SO THAT IF THEY ARE, A LOT OF TIMES NOWADAYS IRRIGATION SYSTEMS YOU CAN DO WITH AN APP. 
          AND SO I I WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE HOMEOWNERS DOING IT THEMSELVES AND SO IT CAN BE PRETTY EASY TO, FOR THEM TO MAKE A QUICK CHANGE ON THEIR SYSTEM. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          AND SO LAST THING IS, UH, BASICALLY, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, THE VOLUME OF WATER THAT CRESS, IT DOESN'T CARE IF IT'S A MONDAY OR TUESDAY AS LONG AS IT GETS THAT IT, THAT VOLUME. 
          SO THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY ANNUAL REVENUE IMPACTS. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR CONSERVATION OF WATER OR RESTRICTION OF WATER. 
          IT'S JUST HOW YOU WATER. 
          SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY, UH, ANNUAL REVENUE CONCERNS OR ISSUES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND JUST REAL QUICK, SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A ACTUAL METER BACK IN AUGUST, UH, FROM, FROM A HOMEOWNER. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, 
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UH, YOU'VE GOT MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, IT HAPPENED BETWEEN ABOUT FOUR THREE TO FOUR TO SEVEN 8:00 AM THEY WERE USING SEVEN 30 GALLONS PER HOUR, WHICH EQUATED TO 3,200 GALLONS DURING THAT SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND THIS IS JUST ONE HOUSE IN ALL OF BRENTWOOD. 
          SO NOW NOT EVERYBODY'S THIS EXTREME. 
          THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME INBETWEENS, BUT THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS THESE HUGE SPIKES IN, IN WATER USE IN TRYING TO PROVIDE WATER TO OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          SO, AND WE'LL I'LL END WITH THIS ONE. 
          THIS IS UH, FIRST UTILITY DISTRICT OF KNOX COUNTY. 
          UH, BASICALLY THE FARGATE AREA OUTSIDE OF KNOXVILLE. 
          THEY, UM, HAVE IMPLEMENTED THIS BACK IN 2000, UH, 21. 
          AND THIS WAS THEIR RESULTS, WHICH IS PRETTY AMAZING. 
          UM, THEY WERE PUSHING ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAYS AT A PEAK OF 60 MILLION GALLONS A DAY IN 19. 
          NOW THEIRS IS A MANDATORY, UM, THEY ACTUALLY, UH, PUT IN SOME ORDINANCES. 
          SO THEIRS WAS MANDATORY, BUT THEIR RESULTS ARE PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. 
          THEY DROP, WENT FROM 60 DOWN TO 32 MILLION GALLONS AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE BLUE THAT'S THEIR DAILY PEAKS. 
          THEY BASICALLY FLATTENED THAT CURVE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ANYWAY, THAT'S A HUGE THING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE 30 MILLION GALLONS THROUGH A SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE TAKING OUT AND HAVING TO DO THAT ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          SO ANYWAY, ANYWAY, ANY THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS? HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. 
          OBVIOUSLY AS WE CONTINUE TO ROLL OUT, WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK WITH, UH, COMMISSIONERS AND, AND OTHERS, UH, REGARDING OUR PROGRAM. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU JUROR. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING PROACTIVE. 
          YEAH, THANKS. 
          OKAY, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE THIS ITEM TO TALK ABOUT WITH YOU AND THAT IS A REQUEST THAT WE'VE RECEIVED TO START USING SIGNAGE SIMILAR TO THIS OR, BUT IF WE DID USE IT, WE WOULD WANT IT TO BE EXACTLY THIS, WHICH IS A THREE FOOT MINIMUM CLEARANCE TO PASS, UH, SIGNAGE ALONG OUR ROADWAYS THAT ARE MORE CHALLENGING FOR BICYCLISTS. 
          WE HAVE A FEW ALONG BELL REVE, UM, NOW, AND THE REQUEST HAS BEEN MOW WOULD YOU CONSIDER PUTTING THIS ON MANY OF THE ROADWAYS IN BRENTWOOD AND IT AMONGST STAFF? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND IT GIVES US PAUSE BECAUSE THIS SIGNAGE IS BASICALLY STATING WHAT'S ALREADY LAW. 
          AND THERE ARE OTHER LAWS OUT THERE THAT ARE EQUALLY COMPELLING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO REINFORCE IN OUR DRIVERS TO INFLUENCE DRIVER BEHAVIOR TO NOT PASS STOPPED SCHOOL BUSES TO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE, TO NOT DRIVE WITHOUT THEIR SEATBELT. 
          THESE SORT OF REMINDER SIGNS COULD PROLIFERATE AND THERE REALLY IS NO END TO THE COMPELLING THINGS THAT YOU COULD PUT ON SIGNS ALONG OUR ROADWAYS THOUGH, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE SOME ROADS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY OR VERY CHALLENGING FOR BICYCLISTS AND BELL RAVE. 
          THOSE SIGNS HAVEN'T, HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN THERE. 
          IN FACT, TODD, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHEN THEY DID GET THERE. 
          UM, SO THOSE WERE PUT UP THIS PAST SUMMER. 
          UM, THOSE ARE NOT THIS SPECIFIC SIGN. 
          UH, THOSE ARE A YELLOW DIAMOND SIGN THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT M-U-T-C-D COMPLIANT. 
          UM, CAN'T SAY THAT I WAS AWARE OF THAT, I APOLOGIZE. 
          BUT THE CONCERN WOULD BE NOT EVERY SIGN IN OUR ENTIRE NETWORK IS M-U-T-C-D COMPLIANT. 
          BUT WE TRY, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO RAMP UP INSTALLATION AND START PUTTING MORE OF THEM OUT THERE, UH, WE TRY TO REMAIN M-U-T-C-D COMPLIANT WITH, WITH MOST THINGS. 
          AND THAT'S THE MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES. 
          UM, SO THIS SIGN IS U-M-U-T-C-D COMPLIANT. 
          MAYBE IT'S NOT AS, UM, EYE CATCHING 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO A SPEED LIMIT SIGN, BLACK AND WHITE KIND OF RECTANGULAR IN SHAPE. 
          IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A WARNING SIGN. 
          BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THOSE WERE PUT UP THIS SUMMER. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE UNFORTUNATE, UH, ACCIDENT WHERE A WOMAN WAS HIT ON HER BIKE. 
          UM, AND BASED ON EVERYTHING I KNOW THE DRIVER ADMITTED HE JUST DIDN'T SEE HER. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WE COULD PREVENT THAT SAME ACCIDENT, UM, BY ADDING SIGNS EVERYWHERE. 
          BUT TO YOUR POINT, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT. 
          SO THIS IS THE M-U-T-C-D, THE R FOUR 19 SIGN. 
          SO IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER THEM IN OTHER LOCATIONS, WE'D WANT TO USE THIS PARTICULAR SIGN. 
          HOWEVER, ENGINEERING HAS POINTED OUT THAT WELL WITH M-U-T-C-D THERE ARE KIND OF REGULATIONS THAT THAT GOVERN WHERE YOU WOULD PUT THEM AND YEP. 
          AND DEREK, I'LL ASK YOU TO GIVE US THE THUMBNAIL VERSION OF SURE. 
          WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE TO DO THUMBNAILS, , AND UM, SO, UM, I'LL TRY TO, SO, AND I'VE BEEN IN A JURISDICTION IN THE PAST WHERE LOOK TWICE SAVE A LIGHT, THE MOTORCYCLE SIGNS THEY WANTED TO PUT 
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THOSE UP AND WE INVESTIGATED IT HEAVILY AND UH, WE FOUND THAT WE WOULD BE INCREASING OUR LIABILITY AS A MUNICIPALITY IF WE INSTALL THOSE SIGNS RATHER THAN JUST LEAVING THEM LIKE THEY IS, LIKE THEY WERE, UH, IN THIS CASE, UH, THIS, THIS SIGN, IN FACT IF YOU LOOK AT ITEM THREE THERE, IT SAID IT SHALL NOT BE USED IN JURISDICTIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE SPECIFIC PASSING CLEARANCE TO BE PROVIDED BY MOTOR VEHICLES PASSING BY SICKLES AS DEFINED IN THEIR LAW OR ORDINANCE. 
          SO EVEN IF WE WANTED TO USE THIS SIGN, WE WOULD NEED TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT IN OUR ORDINANCE IF THAT'S NOT ALREADY THERE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK IT IS BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST GO BY THE STATE REGULATION, WHICH IS, UM, THE THREE FEET MINIMUM CLEARANCE TO PASS. 
          SO, UH, OUR OPINION IS IF WE ADD SIGNS, THEY SHOULD BE M-U-T-C-M-U-T-C-D, UH, COMPLIANT AND IF WE WANT TO DO THE BICYCLE SIGNS, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO ADJUST OUR ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO TO USE THESE SIGNS. 
          AND SO IN TALKING ABOUT THIS, I KNOW COMMISSIONER MC MCMILLAN HAD SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT PERHAPS, UM, ANOTHER AVENUE THAT WE COULD PURSUE THAT MIGHT HAVE A SIMILAR EFFECT. 
          SO THIS KINDA, AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION 'CAUSE WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF FRUSTRATIONS AND COMPLAINTS AND SAFETY ISSUES WITH SPEEDERS AND SO FORTH. 
          AND I THINK THE GOAL HERE IS KEEP PEOPLE SAFER. 
          AND SO WHAT IT MADE ME KIND OF REALIZE IN CONJUNCTION WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, BRENT MEAD AND SOME OTHER SPEEDING ISSUES IS ARE WE AS A CITY DOING WHAT WE NEED TO TO KEEP EVERYBODY, WHETHER IT'S BIKE RIDERS, WALKERS, SO FORTH SAFE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND SO KIND OF OCCURRED TO ME, WE'VE GOT SOME NEIGHBORHOODS IN BRENTWOOD THAT ARE 25 MILES AN HOUR SPEED ZONE AND THEN OTHERS, SOME OF THE OLDER ONES ON THE WEST SIDE WHERE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PUT IN RETROFIT SIDEWALKS AND SO FORTH WHERE 30 MILES AN HOUR. 
          SO I WANTED TO, I TALKED TO TODD AND I TALKED TO CHIEF COLVIN TO KIND OF GO, IS THIS A CRAZY IDEA TO CONSIDER DROPPING OUR SPEED LIMIT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE IT'S 30 DOWN TO 25 TO GET AN OVERALL BROADER PERSPECTIVE OF SAFETY AND A CONSISTENT SPEED LIMIT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS? AND SO, UM, AND SO I JUST THOUGHT, WELL I'LL PITCH IT. 
          I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE COMMISSION THINKS ABOUT THIS. 
          IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE STUDY AND SEEING IF, IF IT WAS FEASIBLE AND WHAT IT WOULD COST AND SO FORTH. 
          BUT WHEN I TALKED WITH TODD, KIND OF FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE AND WITH CHIEF COLVIN, THEY BOTH WERE LIKE, ABSOLUTELY, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT AND NOT REALLY ANY DOWNSIDE OTHER THAN COST AND MAINTENANCE AND, AND PUTTING UP THE SIGNS AND SO FORTH TO REDUCING THE SPEED IT GIVES POLICE, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          'CAUSE WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO FIVE TO 10 MILES AN HOUR OVER THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT. 
          SO IF YOU'RE IN A 30 NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE ARE PUSHING 40. 
          BUT IF WE DROP IT TO 25, THERE'S THE, THE THOUGHT THAT WELL THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO 40 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA GET IN A LOT MORE TROUBLE IF THEY'RE DOING MORE THAN 15 MILES AN HOUR OVER THEIR SPEED LIMIT. 
          SO THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER, BUT I THOUGHT WELL IF WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFER, LET'S LOOK AT A WAY TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFER AND BE CONSISTENT. 
          SO TODD, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY THOUGHTS YOU WANTED TO ADD, BUT, UM, CHIEF COLVIN, HE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY 'CAUSE THEY'RE BUSY WITH HICKEY'S RETIREMENT SET UP AND EVERYTHING. 
          UM, BUT THEY WERE BOTH VERY, HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          I DO. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          SO OFTENTIMES MOTORISTS WILL DRIVE AT THE SPEED THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE ON A ROAD IRRELEVANT TO WHAT IT'S POSTED. 
          UM, WE GET ON I 65 AND IT MIGHT BE POSTED AT 65 OR 70 MILES AN HOUR, BUT MANY OF US ARE DOING 80, SO IT'S SIMILAR ON FRANKLIN ROAD AND NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AS WELL. 
          SO JUST LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT, I WOULD NOT EXPECT MUCH OF A CHANGE IN DRIVER BEHAVIOR AT ALL. 
          UH, LOWERING THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT. 
          SPEED LIMIT OR THE ORDINANCE SPEED LIMIT. 
          BUT WHEN COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN ASKED, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME INCONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          IN FACT WE FOUND IN SOME CASES WHERE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A RESIDENT OR AN HOA THAT MAYBE GOT A LITTLE OVERZEALOUS AND CHANGED TO SPEED LIMIT SIGN THEMSELVES UNBEKNOWNST TO US. 
          AND WE'RE FINDING IT AFTER THE FACT WHERE IT'S 25 MILES AN HOUR ONE WAY AND 20 MILES AN HOUR THE OTHER WAY. 
          AND I'M LIKE, THAT CAN'T BE. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE FOUND CASES OF THAT. 
          SO THAT SAID, I THINK THERE IS VALUE IN LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT TO IMPROVE SAFETY, BUT IT REALLY WOULD REQUIRE KIND OF AN ENFORCEMENT ARM TO THAT FOR IT TO BE EFFECTIVE. 
          OTHERWISE, WHERE YOU CURRENTLY SEE PEOPLE GOING 40 AND A 30, YOU'RE GONNA SEE PEOPLE GOING 40 AND A 25. 
          UH, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT JUST CHANGING A POSTED SPEED LIMIT'S GONNA HAVE MUCH EFFECT AT ALL. 
          BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ALL WANNA CONSIDER. 
          AND I 
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DID MENTION TO COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN, THERE'S AN ARTICLE, UH, FROM 2023 THAT I NEED TO RESURRECT AND SEND TO HER. 
          UH, I APOLOGIZE, I'VE BEEN A LITTLE BUSY THE LAST COUPLE DAYS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, THERE'S AN ARTICLE IN CLARKSVILLE WHERE THE STATE AND THE POLICE COULD SPEAK TO THIS BETTER IF THEY WERE HERE, CHANGED SOME RULES WHERE MUNICIPALITIES CAN NOW SET WHAT THEY BELIEVE THE APPROPRIATE FINE FOR SPEEDING IS. 
          AND I DON'T HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION AT HAND, BUT I, I HAVE READ THE ARTICLE ABOUT CLARKSVILLE AND THEY, THEY LOWERED THEIR LIMITS. 
          IT'S, IT APPEARS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH AN ENFORCEMENT ANGLE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW SUCCESSFUL IT'S BEEN, BUT I THINK THAT'S POTENTIALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND MAYBE THE MOST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION. 
          I PERSONALLY, I DON'T LIKE TO GET HIT IN THE POCKETBOOK. 
          AND, UM, SO, AND IN TALKING TO CHIEF COLVIN, SOME OF OUR FINES AND, AND IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLEX. 
          IT DEPENDS ON IF IT'S A MOVING VIOLATION, SPEED, WHATEVER, WE'RE AT THE MAX ON WHAT THE STATE ALLOWS US TO CHARGE. 
          BUT WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IF THEY ARE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THESE HIGHER PROBLEMATIC AREAS WHERE WE HAVE EXCESSIVE SPEEDERS, IF IT'S 25 AND THEY'RE GOING 40, 41, THEY'RE AT THAT 15 MINUTE MILE AN HOUR MARK, IT DOES GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO POP IT UP TO THAT HIGHER LEVEL THAT IS GONNA HIT THEIR POCKETBOOK A LITTLE HARDER. 
          UM, AND IT ALSO, AND, AND NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT DOING THIS FOR REVENUE, IT IS MORE A DETERRENT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND COLVIN AND I TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT. 
          IT'S MORE OF A, AT WHAT POINT DOES IT BECOME JUST A REMINDER TO PEOPLE DON'T SPEED 'CAUSE IT IS GONNA HIT YOUR POCKETBOOK WHEN YOU GET TO THAT 15, YOU ALSO HAVE A, AN ADDITIONAL EFFECT OF IT IF THEY DON'T GO TO TRAFFIC SCHOOL, IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO TO TRAFFIC SCHOOL. 
          IF THEY DON'T, THEN THEY'RE GONNA GET POINTS ON THEIR LICENSE. 
          SO THERE'S A MULTIFACETED, UM, APPROACH. 
          UM, WE ALSO ARE SEEING THAT, UM, OUR NEW JUDGE IS, UM, MORE CONSISTENT WITH FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH, YOU KNOW, IF ONE OF OUR OFFICERS WRITES A TICKET AND THE PERSON COMES IN AND SO FORTH, THEY'RE GETTING, RATHER THAN THE WHOLE CHARGE GETTING THROWN OUT, THEY'RE GETTING THE APPROPRIATE CONSEQUENCE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO DRIVE DRIVING SCHOOL AND SO FORTH ARE DOING THAT. 
          SO THERE'S SOME CONSISTENCY IN NOW IN WHAT THE POLICE ARE ABLE TO DO. 
          AND WITH THE SPEED LIMIT, WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY ALSO DO WITH THOSE FINES TO KIND OF MORE APPROPRIATELY, UM, HIT THE, THE, THE HIGH SPEEDERS. 
          UM, SO I, I DON'T, I JUST THOUGHT, WELL, I, I'LL THROW IT OUT THERE. 
          AND COLVIN HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND A LOT OF, UM, POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY COULD DO IF WE DID THIS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PULSE IS OF THE COMMISSION, BUT I FELT LIKE WE'RE HEARING A LOT OF PROBLEMS. THERE'S A LOT MORE DISTRACTED DRIVING. 
          UM, SPEED IS AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF NECESSARILY PUTTING SPEED BUMPS AND SPEED HUMPS AND EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE. 
          UH, AND THEY MAY STILL BE WARRANTED IN PLACES. 
          OBVIOUSLY IT'S A, IT'S A BROADER APPROACH TO LOOKING AT GETTING ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS CONSISTENTLY ON THE SAME SPEED LIMIT AND EVERYBODY SAFER. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE THE, THE NEED FOR MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VERSUS BANDAID HERE, TRY AND DO THIS HERE. 
          LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT, UH, ACROSS THE, UH, THE CITY, BE MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND THOUGHTFUL. 
          WHAT, WHAT'D IT LOOK LIKE, TODD, IN TERMS OF, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE AT 25 VERSUS 30? AND I DON'T HAVE A GOOD FEEL FOR THAT. 
          UM, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THE NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SET AT 25. 
          SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE AT 30. 
          UM, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE FOR YOU? WOULD YOU AND YOUR TEAM PUT A WHOLE NEW SIGNUP OR A STICKERS ON TOP OF WHAT WOULD THAT IT WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND WHOLE NEW SIGNS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS USE DECORATIVE SIGNPOSTS AND AS PART OF THAT, THE HOA HAS SOME RESPONSIBILITY IN MAINTAINING THOSE POSTS. 
          AND HISTORICALLY WE HAVE PROVIDED M-U-T-C-D COMPLIANT CONTROL SIGNS TO AN HOA AND ASKED THEM, UH, TO SWAP THOSE OUT, STOP SIGNS AND THINGS AS THEY'RE FADED. 
          BUT I THINK THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY, WHEREAS IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO COMMUNICATE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO KIND OF A ONE TIME SWAP OUT. 
          WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE POST, BUT WE WOULD NOT LOOK TO THEM TO PUT THOSE UP. 
          WE WOULD TRY AND CONSISTENTLY APPROACH IT AND GET THOSE ALL RETROFITTED, BUT I DON'T HAVE A GOOD GRASP OF HOW MANY SIGNS THAT WOULD BE, HOW MANY NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE AFFECTED. 
          UH, SO COMMISSIONERS, WHAT WE COULD DO, IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THIS, IS WE COULD COME UP WITH A MAP AND GIS COULD ACTUALLY SHOW YOU THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE CURRENTLY 30 THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS CHANGE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF LOWERING THE SPEED LIMITS AND I DO THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH, BUT I'VE DONE MILES AND MILES AND MILES AND MILES OF BIKES. 
          IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS, BUT ON, ON ROADS. 
          AND WE DO HAVE SOME LOCATIONS IN BRENTWOOD THAT BIKERS USE A LOT. 
          AND IT'S A LOT OF TIMES ON THE WEEKENDS. 
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SO I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS GOOD. 
          AND I KNOW OF THE STOPPING AT A BUS, WHATEVER, MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT LAW AND AS MANY COMMERCIALS ON TV ABOUT DRUNK DRIVING, THEY SHOULDN'T KNOW THAT. 
          BUT YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THAT A BIKE HAS A BIKE CAN RIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LANE IF THEY WANT TO. 
          MOST BIKERS ARE VERY POLITE. 
          IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN HIT WITH A MIRROR AND YOU WERE TRYING TO RIDE A BIKE OR ALMOST RUN OVER AND LEAVE TWO ORPHANS AND A WIDOW, THIS, THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA TOO, BUT NOT EVERYWHERE, NOT INUNDATE OUR CITY WITH IT. 
          ONE EXAMPLE I THINK IS WHERE I LIVE ON SUNSET, UH, THE NEWER PART HAS TRAILS, BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE OWL CREEK AND YOU COME UP THAT HILL WITH THE, THE MEDIAN, THAT'S A VERY DANGEROUS AREA FOR A BIKER. 
          AND I'VE LITERALLY BEEN HONKED AT BEHIND BECAUSE I WOULD PICK UP SOMEBODY RIGHT AS THEY PASS BROOKFIELD, YOU KNOW, HEADED TOWARDS CONCORD ROAD. 
          AND THEN ONCE THEY GET, YOU KNOW, EVEN ON SUNSET THEY GET ON CONCORD ROAD, THEY'VE GOT A PATH THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THE ROAD AND WOULD LITERALLY JUST STAY BEHIND THE BIKER. 
          AND THE BIKER MIGHT HAVE BEEN DOING 10, 15 MILES AN HOUR, MAYBE, MAYBE IT WAS A REALLY GOOD BIKER AND THEY WERE DOING 20 MILES AN HOUR, BUT JUST STAY BEHIND THEM AND HAVE CARS BEHIND ME HONKING AT ME TO GO. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DIDN'T SEE THE BIKER, 'CAUSE I DO DRIVE A MINIVAN, BUT I THINK A LOT OF 'EM DIDN'T REALLY CARE. 
          AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT REALIZE THAT, LIKE I SAID, A BIKE CAN RIDE IN THE MIDDLE, MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO STAY ON THE SHOULDER. 
          MOST BIKERS STAY ON THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD. 
          THAT'S AN AREA THAT YOU COULD USE IT. 
          I CAN THINK OF OTHERS, BUT, UH, MARIE LANE'S ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          AND I KNOW SOME OF THAT'S GOOD, BUT SOME OF THAT'S MUCH MORE NARROW. 
          THAT'S IN THE COUNTY SECTION. 
          BUT EVEN IF WE PUT 'EM ON OUR SIDE, I DO THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY SHOULD LOOK AT AND DO IT COMPREHENSIVELY, BUT PUT IT IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          UH, AND, AND MAYBE WE DECIDE AS A CITY, WE DON'T PUT 'EM ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. 
          I, I NEVER IN MY YEARS, EVER HAD A PROBLEM ON A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET. 
          I'M, I'M SURE PEOPLE DO, BUT I JUST DIDN'T. 
          BUT WHEN I WOULD GET OUT ON A MAIN ROAD AND THERE USED TO BE NO TRAILS, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE EIGHTIES AND THE NINETIES, THERE WERE NO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD RIDE FRANKLIN ROAD AND, AND IT WAS MUCH MORE NARROW TOO. 
          I MEAN IT WAS, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, IT WAS FOUR LANES UP TO CONCORD ROAD, BUT AFTER THAT, AS Y'ALL ALL KNOW, IT WAS JUST TWO LANES. 
          AND THAT WAS AN AREA I USED TO HAVE A REAL PROBLEMS WITH. 
          AND SOMETIMES EVEN WOULD HAVE DRIVERS THAT YOU ALMOST SENSE THEY WERE TRYING TO HIT YOU. 
          I, I WOULD GET OVER INTO THE ROCK SHOULDER. 
          SO I, I THINK A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IS GOOD, BUT I DO THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT REALIZE THAT THE BIKES HAVE A, A RIGHT TO THE ROAD. 
          THEY ARE A VEHICLE THAT HAS A RIGHT TO THE ROAD JUST LIKE A MOTORCYCLIST DOES. 
          AND THIS, THE THREE FOOT, A LOT OF TIMES I WILL ACTUALLY SIT BEHIND A BIKER, ALMOST IN A PROTECTIVE THING UNTIL I KNOW THEY'RE GETTING TO A WIDER AREA OR WHERE THERE IS A WIDER SHOULDER BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. 
          AND WHEN YOU'RE ON A BIKE, ONE, USUALLY THE PERSON THAT'S GONNA HIT YOU IS BEHIND YOU. 
          YOU MAY NOT HEAR 'EM OR SEE 'EM, BUT EVEN IF YOU DO, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH RECOURSE AND YOU HAVE NO PROTECTION AND THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE TONS OF METAL HITTING YOU AT 30 OR 40 MILES AN HOUR, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH CHANCE WHEN YOU'RE SITTING ON A BIKE. 
          SO, SO I PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK INTO THIS, BUT MAYBE MAKE IT IN SPECIFIC AREAS. 
          SO I THINK I AGREE WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO THIS. 
          SO A COUPLE DIFFERENT COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS FROM, FROM EVERYBODY ON THIS. 
          AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, STARTING OUT RIGHT WHERE WE, WE BEGAN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US, NOT EVEN KRISTEN, WANTS TO POST THE ENTIRE MUNICIPAL CODE, UH, THROUGH THE CITY. 
          AND WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF LAWS OF VARIOUS VALUES AND YEAH, IT'S JUST NOT PRACTICAL TO POST EVERY, EVERY LAW OF VALUE EVERYWHERE THAT SOMEONE MIGHT NEED TO SEE IT. 
          UM, BUT ONTO COMMISSIONER LITTLE'S POINT, I, I AGREE THERE MAY BE SOME AREAS OF TOWN, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE'VE GOT GAPS IN THE, IN THE BIKE ROUTES WHERE SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO GET FROM ONE BIKE ROUTE TO ANOTHER BIKE ROUTE AS THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THEIR WAY THROUGH THE CITY. 
          THERE MAY BE SOME HOTSPOTS THAT THIS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, A A A VALUABLE REMINDER IN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE BIKE WALK FOLKS AND PUBLIC WORKS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE HOTSPOTS TO, TO TRY TO JUST HAVE A, A HELPFUL REMINDER IN TERMS OF THE, UM, THE SPEED LIMIT. 
          I DIDN'T ACTUALLY REALIZE THAT WE HAD SUCH INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN 25 AND 30 MILES AN HOUR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ONE NICE THING I THINK IS MOST MODERN VEHICLES COME WITH THE SPEED LIMIT 
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ON DISPLAY, ON THE DASH, OR EVEN ON A HEADS UP DISPLAY IN THE VEHICLE. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF, IF ROADS ARE PROPERLY TAGGED, WHICH I THINK MOST OF OUR ROADS ARE PROPERLY TAGGED WITH THE ACCURATE SPEED LIMIT, YOU KNOW, YOUR GPS WILL PULL THE SPEED LIMIT FOR WHERE YOU ARE AND DISPLAY IT FOR YOU. 
          SO I THINK TO SOME EXTENT THAT REMINDER CAN HELP BREAK THE HABITS, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING TO INVOLVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          'CAUSE SOMETHING I'M REALLY CONSCIOUS OF IS THE CONTACT BETWEEN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR SYSTEM DEGREE. 
          AND I WANNA BE REALLY DELIBERATE ABOUT ABILITY IN ANY CONFLICT, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN 'EM AND REALLY THINKING CAREFULLY OF THAT IN CONSULTING THEM. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW TRAFFIC STOPS, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT ALWAYS THEIR FAVORITE PART OF THE JOB AND, AND TRYING TO BUILD IT IN, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST WANNA BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL. 
          AND ALSO WITH OUR, OUR, OUR, I THINK RIGHT NOW OUR CITIZENRY HAS A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I VALUE THAT A LOT. 
          AND, UM, SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE TIMES WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE LAW AND WE HAVE ENFORCED THE SPEED LIMIT AMONG OTHER TRAFFIC ORDINANCES. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO BE REALLY, REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE BUILD IN. 
          SO, I MEAN, SAFETY IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IN ALL KINDS OF WAYS. 
          AND PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT JUST ENFORCING, YOU KNOW, THE THE SPEED LIMIT. 
          AND, AND BY PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT, THEY'RE ALSO ENCOURAGING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITIZENRY, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE DOING THIS. 
          SO I JUST WANNA BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE DO THAT. 
          YES. 
          TODD, CAN YOU REMIND ME THE LIST THAT YOU CAME TO US WITH FROM A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THAT LISTED ALL THE PROJECTS YOU WERE WORKING ON IN ALL THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AS RELATED TO PEOPLE SPEEDING? 'CAUSE BECAUSE IT WAS, BECAUSE OF PEOPLE SPEEDING, THERE'S ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS AT THE MOMENT THAT ARE AT VARIOUS STAGES OF EVALUATING, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING. 
          AND SOME ITEMS ARE EFFECTIVE IN CERTAIN AREAS ARE APPROPRIATE IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          AND SO ARE, BUT, AND I REMEMBER JAY, YOU MENTIONED IT DURING THE BUDGET MEETING THAT IT WAS A CONSIDERATION OF OUR BUDGET, THAT IT WAS TAKING SO MUCH OF TODD'S TIME THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO I THINK YOUR PROPOSAL IS A GOOD ONE, WAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLACE TO START AS LOWERING IT TO 25 AND THEN, AND THEN IT'S UNIFORM ACROSS THE CITY. 
          UM, AND IF YOUR TEAM IS WILLING TO DO THE RESEARCH AND FIND, AND IF YOU THINK IT'S VALUABLE AND CHIEF COLVIN, I'M SURE HE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION, THINKS IT'S VALUABLE. 
          I THINK THAT'S JUST TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF RUNNERS, UH, WALKERS, BIKERS, AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KEEP EVERYONE AS SAFE AS WE CAN. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, I AGREE WITH THE, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT HUNTING A REVENUE SOURCE. 
          THAT'S NOT THE PLAN. 
          AND WE CERTAINLY WANNA KEEP THE RELATIONSHIPS STRONG, BUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE RECKLESS AND IT PUTS EVERYONE IN DANGER, AND WE KEEP HEARING THAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER FROM RESIDENTS, PEOPLE ARE CALLING ME, PEOPLE ARE STOPPING ME, PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME QUESTIONS. 
          UM, I THINK A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IS A GREAT IDEA TO THAT TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE. 
          SO, UM, QUICK ASIDE, EVEN ON BRENTWOOD BOULEVARD HEADED SOUTH RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          BY ANDREA'S TRANSPORTATION, THERE'S AN AS SIGN THAT SAYS 25 MILES AN HOUR. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S 25, EVERYTHING ELSE IS LIKE 30, BUT THERE'S ONE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS GOING THE OTHER WAY, BUT I NOTICED THAT ONE DAY. 
          I WAS LIKE, WHY IS THAT 25 AND MEADOW LAKE IS 30? YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT WAS JUST VERY INTERESTING THAT INCONSISTENCY. 
          UM, SO THERE'S THAT AND TWO CHIEF COLVIN AND MY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BALANCE AND THE RELATIONSHIP THAT BRENTWOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED VERY HARD TO, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE A POSITIVE, UM, INTERACTION ALWAYS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF IT, THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO, THEY'RE WILLING TO HAVE THAT POSSIBLY NEGATIVE INTERACTION AT THE CAR WINDOW WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS EXCESSIVELY SPEEDING. 
          BUT IT WAS FRUSTRATING FOR THEM TO WRITE THAT TICKET AND THEN FOR THAT, UM, CITATION TO BE THROWN OUT OF COURT. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE ANYMORE. 
          I THINK THOSE, IF THEY WRITE A TICKET, IT, IT SEEMS TO BE MORE CONSISTENTLY FOLLOWED THROUGH WITHIN THE COURT SYSTEM NOW, UM, WITH, WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON NOW. 
          AND SO HE FELT LIKE THERE WAS SEVERAL CHANGES THAT CAN OCCUR AND ARE OCCURRING THAT WOULD HELP TO THAT FINE BALANCE OF MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC IS, IS HAPPY AND HAS GOOD INTERACTIONS WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND RESPECT FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHILE ALSO THEM BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT SAFETY AND FOR, FOR PEOPLE. 
          SO ON THIS, TO GO BACK MY CONCERN, WHAT KIND OF, IF WE PUT IT IN SPOTS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC SPOTS MM-HMM . 
          UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT LI OPENING UP THAT LIABILITY. 
          SO I WOULD WANT US TO INVESTIGATE LIKE WHAT ARE WE, IF WE FIND SPOTS WHERE IT MAYBE COULD BE WARRANTED BECAUSE THEY'RE HIGHLY FREQUENTED BY BIKE RIDERS, BUT WE'RE OPENING OURSELVES UP FOR LIABILITY, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING OURSELVES. 
          AND JUST TO, TO FURTHER ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, IF, IF YOU'LL NOTICE SOME OF THE GUIDANCE THERE SAYS THAT THE SIGNS SHOULD, SHOULDN'T BE USED ON ROADWAYS WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING SHOULDER OR A DESIGNATED 
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BIKE LANE. 
          AND IT ALSO SAYS THAT THREE FEET THERE CAN BE ADJUSTED WITH THE CITY'S ORDINANCE THAT THEY WRITE. 
          YOU COULD GO FOUR FEET, YOU COULD GO SIX FEET IF YOU'D LIKE, AND THAT SIGN CAN BE ADJUSTED TO REFLECT WHAT'S SHOWN IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          BUT YOU WOULDN'T PUT IT WHERE THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING BIKE, DESIGNATED BIKE LANE OR A SHOULDER THAT OKAY. 
          IS WIDE ENOUGH FOR A BICYCLIST. 
          OKAY. 
          GOING BACK TO SUNSET MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE, SIX YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN WE IMPROVE THAT SECTION ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY LIMITS. 
          YES SIR. 
          WITH NOLANSVILLE, YOU PULL THOSE SUNS DOWN BECAUSE THERE, THERE'LL BE A TRAIL THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO THE BIKERS WILL HAVE, HAVE USE, YOU MIGHT STILL PUT IT IN THE SECTION WHERE YOU COME DOWN THE HILL OVER ELK CREEK, BUT THERE'S, TO ME, THERE'S NOT A TON OF PLACES, BUT I THINK ANYWHERE IN THE CITY WHERE YOU'RE ON A MAIN ARTERY OR A COLLECTOR STREET WHERE THERE IS A PROBLEM, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL PASS IT OVER TIME IT WILL EDUCATE 'EM BECAUSE I'VE HAD PEOPLE LITERALLY TELL ME, WELL, NO, THEY, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE BLOCKING TRAFFIC, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE ON THE ROAD. 
          AND I'M LIKE, NO, THEY'VE GOT AS MUCH RIGHT TO THE ROAD AS YOU DO. 
          AND SO IT'S UH, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY APPEAL ON THIS IS TO EDUCATE AND MAYBE ONE DAY WE'LL COMPLETE OFF OUR PROJECTS TO WHERE THERE SOMEBODY CAN GET FROM THE FAR WEST SIDE OF BRENTWOOD TO THE FAR EAST SIDE OF BRENTWOOD WITHOUT EVER HAVING TO EVEN BE ON THE ROAD. 
          SO IF I CAN ASK DEREK YES SIR. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE THREE FEET IS THERE NEEDS TO BE THREE FEET AVAILABLE TO THE, TO THE DRIVER WITHOUT CROSSING A DOUBLE YELLOW. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THAT COULD BE, UH, APPLICABLE IN ALL CASES. 
          UH, IIII DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT SAYS THAT JAY, UH, THERE ARE PLACES WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU CAN PASS SAFELY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT, IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT I'M SAYING, TRACTOR ON THE ROAD. 
          I'M SAYING FOR INSTALLATION OF THE SIGN. 
          'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM SARAH CATHERINE ON THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH SHE WAS SAYING THERE NEEDS TO BE THREE FEET AVAILABLE WITHOUT CROSSING A DOUBLE YELLOW. 
          SO THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SIGN MAY BE MORE LIMITED JUST TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS ABOUT WHERE THESE THINGS CAN BE PUT. 
          IT'S NOT JUST OUR PERCEPTION OF, WELL THIS IS KIND OF A DANGEROUS AREA, LET'S PUT SOME SIGNS OUT. 
          THEY MAY NOT QUALIFY FOR IT IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PAVEMENT WIDTH THERE FOR DRIVERS TO SAFELY DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          WHEN YOU SAY DOUBLE YELLOW, THOSE ARE NOT, THOSE ARE THERE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT TO BE CROSSED, BUT THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'RE COMING UP ON A TRACTOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT STREET SWEEP, OR IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THE TRACTOR'S BEEN DRIVEN DOWN THE ROAD IN BRENTWOOD. 
          BUT, UM, UH, YEAH, THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU JUST, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET AROUND A CAR STOPPED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UH, IT COULD BE POSSIBLE. 
          I DIDN'T CATCH THAT. 
          BUT YEAH, IT MAY BE THAT IT HAS TO BE THREE FOOT AVAILABLE JUST TO POST A SIGN. 
          I, I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT WAS MY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AS WELL IS WHAT SARAH HAD MENTIONED TO US. 
          I THINK THERE CREATES A LIABILITY. 
          I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT, BUT MY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT SHE SENT US WAS THAT IT COULD CREATE A LIABILITY FOR US IF THE PAVEMENT WIDTH ISN'T AVAILABLE BECAUSE YOU'RE TELLING MOTORISTS TO MOVE OVER, BUT YOU'RE ALSO GOTTA DOUBLE YELLOW LINE PAINTED. 
          THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE ROOM TO MOVE OVER. 
          IT'S KINDA LIKE PASSING A PARKED CAR. 
          YEAH. 
          THE RULE IS YOU CAN'T BREAK YOUR LANE UNTIL YOU'VE GOT CLEARANCE TO DO IT. 
          AND THAT SEEMS TO HAVE FALLEN BY THE WAYSIDE IN A LOT OF PLACES. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE JUST, EH, I'M IN MORE OF A HURRY THAN YOU ARE MAYBE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO JUST KEEPING THAT BALL ROLLING AND MOST OF OUR ROADWAYS ARE GONNA BE 12 FOOT WIDE. 
          YOU GOT, IF THE BIKE WAS ON THE EDGE, YOU'D HAVE THREE FOOT AND THEN AN EIGHT FOOT VEHICLE COULD PASS THAT'S 11 FEET. 
          IF YOU GET MORE THAN THAT, THEN THAT, THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR 'EM NOT TO GET OVER THE DOUBLE YELLOW LINE. 
          SO GOING BACK TO YOUR POINT, THEY'RE PROBABLY STREETS WHERE WE COULD PASS AN ORDINANCE, SET A DISTANCE, PLACE THESE SIGNS AND STILL BE, UH, LEGALLY COMPLIANT. 
          AND THREE FEET IS USUALLY ENOUGH. 
          A VEHICLE THAT'S THREE FEET FROM YOU WHEN YOU'RE RIDING A BIKE AT 20 MILES AN HOUR, 15 MILES AN HOUR, DOES NOT YOUR TYPICAL BIKER DOES NOT MAKE THEM SUDDENLY NERVOUS OR WHATEVER. 
          IT'S, IT'S WHEN THEY PASS YOU AT THREE INCHES AND THEY'RE GOING 50 MILES AN HOUR IN A 35 MILE AN HOUR ZONE AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          AND SO I JUST THINK THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE REMINDER. 
          UH, I'VE NOT RIDDEN ON THE ROADS FOR SEVERAL YEARS BECAUSE OF MY AGE. 
          UH, I STARTED RIDING AT THE Y BECAUSE THE WRECKS AREN'T AS BAD WHEN YOU'RE ON A STATIONARY BIKE . 
          SO, UM, BUT UM, BUT I THINK I, I DON'T, I DO LIKE THAT BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS AMAZED HOW MANY PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THAT BIKER HAS AS MUCH TO THE ROAD AS JUST AS YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE ON A, A MOTORCYCLE THAT SAY WAS MORE LIMITED, 
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MORE LIKE A MOPED OR A SCOOTER. 
          THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO THE ROAD AS WELL. 
          NOW THEY CAN'T GO ON FEDERAL INTERSTATE, BUT NEITHER CAN CYCLISTS. 
          SO COMMISSIONERS, I THINK I HEAR A CONSENSUS FOR US TO BRING BACK TO YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION REGARDING LOWERING THE SPEED LIMITS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS FROM 30 TO 25. 
          THOSE THAT ARE 30TH TIME. 
          SO WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION, GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SIZE, SCALE, SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT WOULD BE. 
          AND THEN IS THERE A CONSENSUS, I THINK TO AT LEAST TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THIS TO MAYBE SEE WHAT AN ORDINANCE WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THE POTENTIAL AREAS THAT MIGHT BE CANDIDATES FOR SIGNAGE LIKE THIS THAT'S WORTH LOOKING AT? I JUST FEEL LIKE I JUST DON'T WANNA SET AN EXPECTATION WE CAN'T MEET. 
          UM, SO THERE, IF IT, WITH THE LIMITATIONS THAT DEREK HAS SET, UM, I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE A HUNDRED SIGNS PUT UP IF THERE CAN ONLY BE TWO. 
          UM, SO AS LONG AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT EXPECTATION THAT PEOPLE MIGHT WANT 100, BUT WE MAY ONLY BE ABLE TO PUT IN TWO, UM, I'M OKAY WITH PURSUING THE INFORMATION, SEEKING OUT THE INFORMATION AND MAKING SURE IT'S COVERED WITH ALL OF THE I'M LOOKING AT BOTH OF Y'ALL . 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YEAH, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT MM-HMM . 
          INTERPRETATIONS, SO YEAH. 
          I'M NOT READY TO MAKE A DECISION ON ANYTHING UNTIL WE KIND OF FINE TUNE WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. 
          YEAH. 
          SPEAKING OF IT. 
          AND WE, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. 
          UM, WHICH I, I THINK I HEAR CONSENSUS TO DO THAT. 
          AND WE CAN ALSO COMMUNICATE TO THE FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WATCHING THIS ISSUE CLOSELY THAT WE MAY HAVE OVERSTEPPED A LITTLE BIT, TRYING TO RECOGNIZE THE CONCERNS ABOUT BEL RIE AND THE ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENED AND PUT OUT SOME SIGN IS THAT WELL MAYBE ISN'T QUITE TOO M-U-T-C-D STANDARDS. 
          AND IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER DOING THIS ANYWHERE ELSE, WE NEED TO CAREFULLY LOOK AT WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE AND, AND MAYBE DO A, A DIFFERENT JOB NEXT TIME. 
          SO MM-HMM . 
          WE'LL BRING BOTH OF THESE ITEMS BACK TO YOU WITH MORE DATA. 
          AND WE ALL AGREE THAT WE WANNA KEEP PEOPLE AS SAFE AS WE CAN, CAN MM-HMM . 
          WITHIN OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT. 
          SO WE'LL, WE'LL RESEARCH THAT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE FOR THIS ONE, BUT THE NEXT ITEM IS, UM, JUST WANTED TO TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH YOU. 
          UH, WE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE LEGAL WOMEN LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TO UTILIZE THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS FOR A CANDIDATE FORUM FOR THE CITY COMMISSION ELECTION. 
          AND WHEN I RECEIVED THAT, I REMEMBERED IT BEING CONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE REQUEST WE GOT BACK IN 2013. 
          AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME THAT, WELL THIS GROUP, AND IN MY MIND IT WAS THIS GROUP, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY THE BRENTWOOD WOMEN'S CLUB WHO PRECEDED THIS GROUP. 
          AND PERHAPS THERE WAS MAYBE AN INFORMAL MERGER THERE WITH, UH, BRENTWOOD WOMEN'S CLUB NO LONGER BEING IN EXISTENCE AND MOST OF THOSE MEMBERS HAVING GONE OVER TO LEGAL WOMEN VOTERS. 
          BUT NONETHELESS, THAT THAT WAS AN ORGANIZATION THAT THE CITY TRUSTED TO PUT ON, UM, FAIR AND OBJECTIVE FORUMS, THAT THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. 
          AND THE QUESTION HAD COME UP IN 2013, I RECALL THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT HAD REQUESTED SAME. 
          AND THEY WERE DENIED AT THE TIME SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF FORUMS IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS OF THIS NATURE AND DIDN'T WANT THAT TO PROLIFERATE. 
          AND SO BASED ON THAT, I HAD RESPONDED BACK TO THE LEGAL WOMEN VOTERS THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          AND YOU GOT THE EMAIL FROM ME INDICATING SUCH, BUT IT WASN'T WITHOUT A LITTLE BIT OF RESERVATION ACKNOWLEDGING, I THINK WHAT EVERYBODY CAN ACKNOWLEDGE IS THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT GIVEN TO THEM THAT'S NOT AFFORDED TO OTHERS. 
          UM, AND IT GAVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE AND THEN I HEARD SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU OF A SIMILAR NATURE THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND THIS IS NOT THE BRENTWOOD WOMEN'S CLUB AND PERHAPS WE SHOULD DO AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IS ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, UM, INCLUDING, AND, AND I'M SORRY, BICO BRENTWOOD IS, IS REPRESENTED HERE TODAY TOO, AND THEY'RE PARTNERING WITH FE WOMEN VOTERS ON THIS ONE, BUT ENCOURAGE EVERYONE GO TO EITHER THE MARTIN CENTER OR THE LIBRARY OR ANOTHER VENUE THAT'S, UH, NOT OUR COMMISSION CHAMBERS SO THAT WE DON'T ENDORSE ONE GROUP OVER ANOTHER IN THE USE OF THAT SPACE. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, BRING THAT TO YOU AND, UH, I'VE ALREADY LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE KIND OF ON PAUSE AS FAR AS AN APPROVAL GOES AND I WANTED TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS. 
          YEAH, NO, I, I THINK YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT AND, AND FRANKLY I DIDN'T REMEMBER ANYBODY HAVING FORUMS AND THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS I MISSED THE BRENTWOOD WOMEN'S GROUP ONE, UM, BACK IN THE DAY, BUT I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF OPTIONS BESIDES USING THE ACTUAL COMMISSION CHAMBER FOR THIS SORT OF THING. 
          I THINK WE EITHER OPEN IT TO EVERYBODY OR NOBODY TO BE CONSISTENT. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GROUPS THAT ARE NON-PARTISAN THAT WOULD WANNA HOST ONE. 
          SO TO BE CONSISTENT, I FEEL LIKE WE 
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MAY NEED TO SAY NO TO EVERYBODY I KNOW THAT MEET WITH THE SATISFACTION OF YOUR CITY ATTORNEY . 
          I WAS LIKE PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT I SAID. 
          SO EVERYBODY OR NOBODY LIKE EVERYTHING, LIKE ALL OR NOTHING. 
          ALL OR NOTHING. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE'LL PROVIDE AND ASK THEM TO LOOK TO THE LIBRARY OR THE MARTIN CENTER OR ANOTHER VENUE. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S NO REFLECTION ON THE VALUE OF ANY OF THE GROUPS. 
          IT'S JUST THE SPECIFIC YES, SIR. 
          SPECIFIC QUESTION AND CIRCUMSTANCE. 
          SO LASTLY, ONE LAST ITEM, SURPRISE ITEM FOR YOU, SORRY. 
          BUT, UH, TODD AND I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS AND THEN THIS CAME UP JUST THIS MORNING. 
          UH, HE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UH, EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND. 
          WE HAVE A BUCKET TRUCK THAT IS ON THAT, UH, SCHEDULE TO BE REPLACED IN 2026. 
          OUR CURRENT BUCKET TRUCK IS A LITTLE QUESTIONABLE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. 
          THE CHALLENGE BEING THAT THE MAKERS OF BUCKET TRUCKS AND, AND SPECIFICALLY ALLTECH THE, THE BRAND THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH, THEY HAVE SORT OF CHANGED THE MODELS AND WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUSHING OFF OF THE ASSEMBLY LINE AS ONE FORMULA OF TRUCK, WHICH IS A BIT LARGER. 
          AND THE SMALLER TRUCKS, THE 41 FOOT BASE FRAME IS UH, UH, MORE OF A CUSTOM TYPE OF ORDER IN THE LEAD TIMES TWO YEARS. 
          AND THE 48 FOOT TRUCKS, THE ONES THAT THEY ARE PUSHING OUT ARE CONSIDERABLY MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          AND HEY JAY? YES SIR. 
          I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO PAUSE. 
          UM, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, AND JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FIRST I'M HEARING OF THIS, UM, ARE YOU LIKE GOING DOWN THE ROAD TO ASK US TO MAKE SOME KIND OF A DECISION TODAY OR IS THIS JUST INFORMATIVE? I WAS GONNA ASK YOUR PERMISSION, TOM, TO PLACE A HOLD, UH, BEFORE WE CAN, WE CAN BRING AN ITEM TO YOU FORMALLY AT A CITY COMMISSION MEETING. 
          UM, AND SO IT'D BE ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA, BUT WE WOULD PLACE A HOLD WITH THE DEALER ON A MODEL THAT TODD FOUND THIS MORNING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY LESS AND IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY MORE OF THE 41 FOOT MODEL THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY COME TO YOU AS, AS A FORMAL ITEM ON YOUR NEXT CITY COMMISSION AGENDA. 
          BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM THAT WE, WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          THEY'RE FAVORABLE TO THIS, BUT THEY'VE GOTTA TAKE FORMAL ACTION ON IT. 
          IS IT A USED ITEM? NO, IT'S NEW. 
          NEW. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S NEW. 
          AND TODD, IF YOU, IF YOU'D SPEAK JUST QUICKLY TO YEAH, IT, UH, SO JAY'S POINT, WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA BE KIND OF PUSHED INTO A 48 FOOT BUCKET TRUCK BECAUSE THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT THEY'RE ROLLING OUT. 
          AND UNLESS WE WANNA WAIT 24 MONTHS, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE CAN REALLY AFFORD TO DO, UH, THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WERE BEING ENFORCED. 
          UM, BUT IT'S CONSIDERABLY MORE MONEY AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT BY ANY MEANS. 
          SO JAY HAD ASKED ME TO GO BACK TO THE VENDOR AND SEE IF THERE WERE ANY USED TRUCKS AVAILABLE. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE TRIPPED INTO THIS. 
          UM, IN LOOKING FOR USED TRUCKS, WE FOUND THAT THEY HAVE BUILT A TRUCK BY EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT, IT WAS BUILT FOR THEIR FLEET OF RENTAL TRUCKS. 
          IT'S A 41 FOOT NEW BUCKET TRUCK THAT IS NO LONGER GONNA BE DIRECTED INTO THEIR RENTAL FLEET AND IT'S NOW BECOME AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE. 
          HMM. 
          UNFORTUNATELY IT WILL GO QUICKLY AND IT'S, IT'S ALMOST COMPLETE. 
          UH, IT'LL BE COMPLETE IN MARCH. 
          SO INSTEAD OF A 24 MONTH LEAD TIME, THIS TRUCK WILL BE COMPLETE RATHER QUICK. 
          UM, BUT WHAT THEY WOULD REQUIRE, LIKE JAY WAS SAYING, TO KIND OF HOLD THE VEHICLE IS A LETTER OF INTENT, WHICH DOESN'T OBLIGATE US TO BUY ANYTHING. 
          WE'VE DONE THIS, UH, HANDFUL OF TIMES IN THE PAST, PROVIDED A DEALER A LETTER OF INTENT THAT JUST SAYS THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, WE NEED CITY COMMISSION FORMAL APPROVAL AT OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT, THEN WE'D BE BE PREPARED TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TO BUY. 
          BUT IT, MOST DEALERS WILL GENERALLY HOLD AN ITEM FOR A FEW WEEKS, NOT FOR A GREAT LENGTH OF TIME. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHAT, SO THEY DON'T REQUIRE DEPOSIT? NOPE. 
          NOT, NOT IN THIS CASE. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN DEALERS THAT HAVE ASKED THAT PRETTY FOR THAT. 
          THAT'S AMAZING BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE REQUIRE DEPOSIT. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO EFFICIENTLY SOLVE THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE WE DON'T BUY THE TRUCK, WE DON'T WANT FOR A LOT MORE MONEY AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA BE NECESSARILY AVAILABLE OTHER THAN THIS KIND OF ODD OPPORTUNITY. 
          BUT IT'S MOVING IT THE PURCHASE A YEAR EARLIER IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THREE MONTHS EARLIER? THREE MONTHS EARLIER. 
          BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE DELIVERY I THINK IN YEAH, WHENEVER IT'S AVAILABLE. 
          SO IF IT'S COMPLETED IN MARCH AND IF IT'S BEING BUILT IN TEXAS, WE MIGHT NOT GET IT TILL APRIL, BUT WHEN WE TAKE DELIVERY, WE'D BE EXPECTED TO PAY FOR IT. 
          UH, THE MONEY ISN'T TECHNICALLY AVAILABLE IN OUR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND UNTIL JULY 1ST, BUT IT IS THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND TO CLARIFY, WE DO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS, I BELIEVE $130,000, UH, THAT IS ACCUMULATED 140 IN THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND FOR THIS VEHICLE. 
          BUT THE REPLACEMENT COST IS GONNA BE $200,000. 
          SO 
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THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          WE'D GO AUTHORIZING THAT. 
          THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UM, IF WE TAKE DELIVERY THIS YEAR, WE'VE GOTTA PAY FOR IT THIS YEAR. 
          SO IT'D BE PART OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT, BUT I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NON-BINDING IF YOU WILL, I DIDN'T WANNA BE TOO CAVALIER WITH MY AUTHORITY AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU HAD CONSENSUS TO PLACE A HOLD ON IT UNTIL YOU CAN TAKE FORMAL, ACTUALLY WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO BUY IT ANYWAY. 
          IT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE BOUGHT IN JULY. 
          IT'S PROGRAM TO BE BOUGHT AND WE'RE GONNA NOW HAVE TO SPEND 60,000 MORE THREE MONTHS EARLIER. 
          BASICALLY IF WE LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 250 TO $260,000. 
          OKAY. 
          IF WE HAVE TO BUY A 48 FOOTER, SO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE LATER. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          AND LENGTHY OR, AND THERE'S NO OTHER VENDORS THAT DO THE FOUR, THE THE SMALLER, THERE ARE OTHER VENDORS, THIS IS THE, ONE OF THE BETTER VENDORS, ALTECH IS, THERE ARE OTHER VENDORS THAT DO A, A CHEAPER VERSION IF YOU WILL. 
          AND BUT MODEL WISE, THIS IS WHAT PUBLIC WORKS FOR AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL SEEING LENGTHY LEAD TIMES. 
          ALTECH IS KIND OF THE INDUSTRY PREFERRED STANDARD. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE ELECTRIC COMPANIES AND THINGS, MOST OF 'EM ARE RUNNING ALTECH EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, IT SEEMS TO BE MORE BULLETPROOF THAN SOME OF THE OTHER MODELS. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE AN ALTECH NOW AND WE'RE EXPERIENCING SOME OF THOSE TROUBLES NOW. 
          IT'S A 10-YEAR-OLD MACHINE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S PARTLY WHY WE'RE KIND OF IN THE SPOT WE'RE AT. 
          WE CAN'T DEFER THIS PURCHASE FOR SEVERAL MORE YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE THE 41 FOOT, IF WE WERE OBVIOUSLY THE 40 EIGHT'S OVERKILL IF WE WERE TO DO, YOU SAID A 41, THE SMALLER ONE, IF WE DON'T DO THIS ONE WE'RE, WE HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS TO GET A 41 FOOT ONE BECAUSE OF THE LEAD TIME. 
          UNLESS WE WERE ABLE TO FIND ANOTHER ARRANGEMENT THAT JUST KIND OF, I SAID TO JAY THIS MORNING, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE EQUIPMENT GODS ARE WORKING IN OUR FAVOR THIS MORNING. 
          I KNOW THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE FUNNY, BUT OKAY. 
          I I CAN'T PROMISE THAT WE COULD GET A 41 IF WE WERE TO ORDER ONE. 
          WE'RE BEING TOLD 24 MONTHS. 
          WHAT DO YOU DO IF WE, IF ALL THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT, DO YOU JUST RENT A BUCKET TRUCK FROM A COMPANY WHEN YOU NEED IT? OR WE MIGHT BE FORCED TO OR WE'D BE FORCED TO CONTRACT MORE STUFF OUT. 
          UM, IF OUR CURRENT MACHINE ISN'T RELIABLE OR AVAILABLE, UM, THEN YES. 
          AND RENTALS ARE NOT CHEAP WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. 
          THEY WANT YOU TO SIGN LIKE A THREE MONTH RENTAL AGREEMENT. 
          'CAUSE THESE, THESE AREN'T DOWN HERE AT BRENTWOOD RENTAL. 
          THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, REGIONALLY. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU PICK UP A RENTAL OF A LARGE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE LIKE THAT, THEY WANT A COMMITMENT FOR A LENGTHIER PERIOD OF TIME. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS THAT THREE MONTH COMMITMENT IN TERMS OF DOLLARS? IF I HAD TO GUESS A THREE MONTH RENTALS, PROBABLY AT LEAST $15,000. 
          MAYBE. 
          MAYBE MUCH MORE TECHNICAL QUESTION. 
          I ASSUME A 48 FOOT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE LARGER SIZE, WOULD BE HIGHER ON MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP. 
          AND DOES THE BUCKET GO ANY HIGHER OR ANY WHATEVER? WELL, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE 41 AND 48 FOOT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS BASICALLY THE LENGTH OR THE REACH OF THE BOOM. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, IT'S A 41 FOOT WORKING HEIGHT. 
          THEY ADD FIVE AND A HALF FEET. 
          I'M SORRY, PLATFORM HEIGHT IS 41 FEET. 
          THEY ADD FIVE AND A HALF FEET AS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD ACROSS ALL VENDORS. 
          THAT'S YOUR WORKING HEIGHT BECAUSE WE STANDING ON THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF YOU GO FROM A 41 TO A 48, THEN YOUR WORKING HEIGHT'S ACTUALLY 53 OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT YOU'RE SPENDING $60,000 MORE TO GO SIX, SEVEN FEET, EIGHT FEET IF YOU'VE GOT A TALL OPERATOR. 
          MANY OF THOSE AND TO, TO MAKE UP FOR THEIR UH, BACKLOG. 
          THAT WAS A PRODUCT OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY'VE KIND OF, HERE'S OUR STANDARD AND WE'RE ONLY BUILDING OUR STANDARD BECAUSE THOSE SMALL CHANGES, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LIGHT HERE ON THE TRUCK. 
          I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LADDER RACK HERE. 
          IT COSTS THE FACTORY A LOT OF TIME AND ADJUSTMENT. 
          AND SO THAT'S HOW THEY'VE KINDA MADE UP THEIR BACKLOG, UM, IS BY RELEASING THOSE STANDARD TRUCKS. 
          BUT IN SOME CASES YOU'RE BUYING EQUIPMENT THAT YOU DON'T REALLY NEED. 
          UH, SO THAT'S, YES, THE 266,000 LOOKS TO BE ABOUT THE CHEAPEST FOR A 48 FOOT. 
          OKAY. 
          VERSUS 198,000 FOR THIS 41 FOOT THAT'S NEARLY BUILT NEW TRUCK. 
          WE JUST GOT LUCKY TO HAVE IT FALL IN FRONT OF US. 
          SO IF WE CAN HOLD IT, THAT WOULD BE THE YEAH, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE ANY DAYS YOU'RE LIKE, OH, I WISH I HAD A 48 FOOT TRUCK. 
          . 
          NOT, NOT TOO FREQUENTLY. 
          YEAH, I'LL BE HONEST. 
          I MEAN SOMETIMES AN ADDITIONAL FEW FEET IS A BIG DEAL BUT IT'S NOT. 
          MOSTLY IT'S USED FOR TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND FIBER AND THAT STUFF IS ALL CURRENTLY REACHABLE AT THE 41 FOOT. 
          NOW THERE ARE TIMES WE BORROW THAT TRUCK TO SET UP THE CHRISTMAS TREE OR WE, WE NEED TO TAKE A TREE LIMB DOWN HERE AND WE MAY HAVE TO CONTRACT THOSE OUT IF WE CAN'T REACH THOSE, BUT THAT'S VERY INFREQUENT. 
          OKAY, SO LETTER OF INTENT FOR NOW. 
          LETTER OF INTENT FOR NOW. 
          THAT'S NOT LETTER OF IS IT LETTER OF INTENT OR JUST, UH OKAY. 
          NON-BINDING LETTER. 
          NON-BINDING. 
          AND SO YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORMALLY APPROVE IT. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE 
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SURE THAT YOU GENERALLY AGREE WITH THIS BEFORE WE REPRESENT THAT TO THE DEALER. 
          SOUNDS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMETHING GOOD AND SAVE SOME MONEY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S HOW WE WILL PROCEED. 
          OBJECT. 
          CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO A PREVIOUS SUBJECT, UH, TO DO IT WITHIN 60 SECONDS?  PROMISE? YES SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          HOLD HE HOLD YOU TO IT. 
          YOU MAY HAVE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT EARLIER WHEN, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REBUILDING THE ROCK WALL ALONG MURRAY LANE AND THE PROXIMITY OF THE ROCK WALL TO THE EXISTING ROADWAY AND JUST BECAUSE THAT RELATES TO ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE'RE STUDYING ROCK NOW ROCK WALLS PROXIMITY TO ROADWAYS, I WOULD CONSIDER THE REPAIR THE WORK ON THE ROCK WALL OR REPAIR TO AN EXISTING FEATURE. 
          THE ROCK WALL THAT'S BEING BUILT IS MUCH MORE FRANGIBLE THAN THE TREES THAT ARE AS CLOSE OR EVEN CLOSER ALREADY THAN THE ROCK WALL. 
          AND WITH THE EXISTING CURB AND GUTTER, THOSE UM, CLEAR ZONE STANDARDS ARE, UH, REDUCED. 
          YOU KNOW, AS THIS IS OLD SMYRNA, THERE ARE NO CURB AND GUTTER AND, UM, IF THERE ARE NO PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO MURRAY LANE RIGHT NOW AS WELL. 
          SO THE FACT THAT, THAT IT'S A REPAIR, UH, IT'S ALREADY CURB AND GUTTER ROAD, I THINK THIS IS ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THE WORKER THERE WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF, UH, CONSTRUCTION SIGNS, MAYBE CONES, UH, FOR HIS PROTECTION. 
          THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU DEREK. 
          YOU MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY.
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