[ Agenda for the Meeting of Brentwood Beer Board Monday, July 8, 2024 - 6:45 pm Brentwood City Hall]
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UH, TONIGHT, UH, FIRST ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE THE, UH, THE BEER BOARD MEETING FOR MONDAY, JULY 8TH, 2024.
PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.
WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE APPROVAL OR CORRECTION OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 28TH, 2024 MEETING.
MOVE TO APPROVE PRIMARY MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN SECOND AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANDREWS.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AT THIS POINT, UH, WE'LL HAVE COMMENTS FROM, UH, CITIZENS.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD DURING THE, UH, THE BEER BOARD MEETING AND, UH, AND MAKE COMMENTS? VERY GOOD.
HEARING NONE, I MOVE TO CLOSE COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO A NEW BUSINESS.
FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS A REQUEST FROM TP MIDTOWN LLC FOR ON-PREMISE BEER PERMIT FOR TWIN PEAKS 1634 GALLIA BOULEVARD, CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP OF EXISTING BUSINESS.
IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE, UH, HERE? YES.
IF YOU WOULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD BY NAME AND ADDRESS, THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE.
UH, MY NAME IS GARY BROWN, 16TH 34, SECOND GALLERIA BOULEVARD.
UH, COMING, UH, BEFORE US THIS EVENING, ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, FOR GARY? I DO, YES, SIR.
GARY, UH, IN THE APPLICATION IT SAYS YOU LIVE IN GARNER, NORTH CAROLINA.
WIFE AND KIDS ARE IN GARNER, NORTH CAROLINA.
I'VE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
I'VE BEEN, THEY HAVE A CONDO DOWNTOWN.
I KNEW THE TAKEOVER WAS COMING.
NOW IT'S GET FAMILY MOVED AND ESTABLISHED RESIDENCY.
UM, HAVE YOU DONE THIS BEFORE, SINCE THIS IS NEW OWNERSHIP FOR YOU? HAVE YOU BEEN A PART OF RESTAURANTS AND, YES, I'M 59 YEARS OLD.
IT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING MY WHOLE LIFE.
UH, SOME ASPECTS OF IT ON THIS LEVEL, SOME ASPECTS ON IT FROM A DISHWASHER TO MULTI-UNIT, SO.
OTHER QUESTIONS? GARY, CAN YOU GIVE US A, UH, A SENSE OF HOW WE CAN BE ASSURED, UH, THAT NO ONE UNDERAGE WILL BE SERVED AND THAT YOU WON'T SERVE? UH, ARE YOU MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS DON'T GET OVERSERVED AT YOUR ESTABLISHMENT AS, AS IT'S, AS THE DAY AND AGE IS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A PRIME FOCUS.
THE UNDERAGE SIDE IS, WE LOOK AT THAT STATE LEGISLATES OF 61 DAYS OF A NEW EMPLOYEE NEEDS TO GET THEIR TABC LICENSE AND THEIR PERMIT.
AS I GET OLDER, ANYBODY THAT CAN DRINK LOOKS THAT MUCH YOUNGER AND I CATCH MYSELF BEING MORE AND MORE IN TUNE TO, ARE YOU SERIOUS? THEY'RE REALLY 21 YEARS OLD.
IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING WE CAN PLAY WITH.
AND I, I DON'T MEAN THAT TO SOUND FLIPPANT.
IT'S JUST WE CAN'T, CAN'T AFFORD IT FOR THE LIABILITIES OF IT.
UM, WE, ID EVERYBODY IN THE BUILDING.
I KNOW COUNTY TO COUNTY IN TENNESSEE, IT'S DIFFERENT.
IT'S DIFFERENT AS TO, YOU HAVE TO ID EVERYBODY.
SOME OF IT IS THEY LOOK 30 OR 40 YEARS OF OLD BASIC.
THEY LOOK OLD ENOUGH TO DRINK.
WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE I HONESTLY, IN THAT RESTAURANT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ID, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ALCOHOL.
WHETHER IT'S, AND I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY DIFFICULT FOR SOME OF US, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M PLENTY OF OLD.
I'M PLENTY OLD ENOUGH TO DRINK MY ID IS IN MY BACKPACK WITH ME AT ALL TIMES.
AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE TREAT IT.
AS FAR AS THE UNDERAGE SIDE OF IT IS, WE NEED TO DUE DILIGENCE, TAKE THE STEPS THAT ARE THERE TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IT.
DID YOU, YOU KNOW, MANAGERS WALKING THE FLOOR AND IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT RIGHT, QUESTION IT OR IF YOU DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT, QUESTION IT.
ARE THEY OF AGE? DID YOU ID THEM, WE ASKED THE GIRLS TO TAKE THE STEPS THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO TAKE ON A DAILY BASIS ON A TABLE BY TABLE BASIS.
WE TERMINATED A YOUNG LADY FROM THE BAR A WHILE BACK FOR TWO PEOPLE SAT AT THE BAR, ONE BARTENDER ID THEM.
THE OTHER GIRL JUST WAS, SHE WAS INFORMED.
SHE WENT OVER AND SERVED THEM ANYWAY AND WE FIRED HER IMMEDIATELY.
ONCE WE FOUND OUT THAT SHE DID NOT, THE GIRL DIDN'T HAVE AN ID.
YOU SERVED SOMEBODY WITH THAT, DIDN'T HAVE AN ID.
NOT TRYING TO BE, BUT IT'S, IT'S THAT IMPORTANT.
DO YOU DO ANY EXTRA TRAINING, UM, FOR YOUR WE DO DAILY PRE SHIFTS THAT WE ASK WHAT'S THE DATE, WHAT'S THE BIRTHDATE? TALK TO US.
HOW DO YOU LOOK IN AN ID? I'LL TAKE OUT MY DRIVER'S LICENSE, WHICH IT'S A NORTH CAROLINA LICENSE.
TELL ME, WHAT DO YOU SEE? IF YOU WERE QUESTIONING ME, WHAT WOULD YOU ASK? THINGS LIKE, WHAT'S MY MIDDLE NAME? WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? WHAT'S YOUR ZODIAC SIGN? EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND IT'S LITTLE NUANCES THAT THEY, THAT CATCH PEOPLE WITH THE WRONG ID.
OTHER THINGS I'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS LIVES.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE WITH THIS NAME ON IT? MOST PEOPLE THIS DAY AND AGE ARE GONNA HAVE A CREDIT CARD OR A DEBIT CARD THAT HAS THAT NAME ON IT THAT SHOWS IT'S THE SAME ID FOR THE SAME PERSON.
DOES IT SAY DUPLICATE ON IT? DOES IT SAY OKAY IF IT'S A DUPLICATE, THEN I'M DEFINITELY ASKING FOR ANOTHER FORM OF ID, AT LEAST
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WITH A NAME ON IT.CREDIT CARD BACK IN THE DAY, IT USED TO BE A BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO CARD.
SOMETHING ELSE WITH YOUR NAME ON IT THAT TELLS ME YOUR JOE SMITH.
SOME LIQUOR COMPANIES WILL PARTNER WITH LIQUOR COMPANIES AND HAVE THEM COME IN AND DO A CLASS ON A SATURDAY MORNING ABOUT SERVICE.
UH, WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES OF, OKAY, WHAT IS ONE DRINK? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN A GLASS OF WINE? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IN A GLASS OF BEER? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IN A HIGH SPIRIT ITEM? AN OUNCE AND A HALF, EIGHT OUNCES OF, YOU KNOW, 12 OUNCES OF BEER, SIX OUNCES OF WINE.
WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? HOW DOES IT AFFECT A FEMALE AS OPPOSED TO A MALE? HOW DOES IT AFFECT SOMEBODY THAT'S EATEN AT OR HASN'T EATEN? YOU KNOW, GIRLS COME UP, WE TRY TO DO FOUR DRINK CHECKS.
IF SOMEBODY CAME IN AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR THEIR FOURTH BEER, SHOW ME THEIR CHECK.
HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN HERE? HAVE THEY EATEN ANYTHING? PART OF MY GOOFINESS, I SIT AND WATCH PEOPLE AND AS CRAZY AS IT SOUNDS, YOU DON'T BUY ALCOHOL, YOU RENT IT 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GO TO THE RESTROOM AND I WATCH 'EM GET UP AND GO TO THE RESTROOM.
I THINK YOU PROBABLY DO ALL OF THAT.
BUT DO YOUR SERVERS DO IT? I CAN LIE AND TELL YOU YES, BUT THE GOAL IS WE, WE, WE TRY OUR BEST TO GET THEM TO DO THAT.
I CAN'T, 'CAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN A SERVER AS FOR A SECOND ID.
AND VERY RARELY ARE THEY TOUGH ON THE FIRST ONE.
IF YOU ACTUALLY CAN PULL THAT OFF AT YOUR RESTAURANT.
SOME OF THE GIRLS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE DILIGENT ABOUT IT.
I THINK SOME THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS A LITTLE LONGER UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, THE FINES INVOLVED WITH ON THEM AND ON THE BUSINESS.
WE HAD A GENTLEMAN IN PROBABLY FIVE WEEKS AGO HAD A PAPER LICENSE THAT SAID DUPLICATE EVEN ON THE PAPER.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? SHE BROUGHT IT TO ME.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE WITH THIS NAME? NO, I DON'T, BUT I'M OLD ENOUGH TO DRINK.
I SAID, WELL UNFORTUNATELY, BASED ON THIS INFORMATION, I CAN, WE WILL NOT SERVE YOU.
I WAS CALLED A FEW NAMES OFFERED TO HAVE LUNCH.
I'M LIKE, WELL, THERE'S YOUR DOOR.
I, I WILL BE, WE TRY TO COVER OUR BASES AS BEST WE CAN, BUT I'M SURE THERE ARE MISTAKES THAT WE MAKE.
BUT SOME OF 'EM ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETRIMENTAL THAN OTHERS.
AND ON THAT CASE, I CAN STAND IN FRONT OF YOU AND TELL YOU WE WON'T MAKE A MISTAKE.
BUT THAT WOULD BE A BOLDFACE LIFE.
I TOLD YOU EVERY DAY WAS, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT, MAYOR ASKED ME ABOUT MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT OVER SERVING PEOPLE.
THAT IS REALLY WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES IN.
'CAUSE THAT'S A JUDGMENT CALL SIZE, GENDER, THEIR TEMPERAMENT.
A LOT OF THOSE THINGS COME INTO PLAY.
AND A LOT OF IT IS A CONVERSATION.
WHAT CAN THEY SPEAK TO YOU LEGIBLY, YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY AND UNDERSTAND.
AND AGAIN, I, I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN IN A BUSINESS, IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO PICK OUT.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S A, IT'S A JUDGMENT CALL.
AND I TELL MOM LIKE, HEY LISTEN, WE'LL GET YOU A RIDE HOME.
COME IN TOMORROW AND WE'LL LOOK AFTER YOU TOMORROW IN SOME WAY.
JUST DO THE BEST YOU CAN TO KEEP THEM FROM, NUMBER ONE, GETTING BEHIND A WHEEL.
AND NUMBER TWO IS, YOU KNOW, GET HOME SAFELY.
UH, BRENTWOOD IS VERY ACCOMMODATING ABOUT GETTING TO US.
IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE AND CALLING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR WHATEVER REASON IT MAY BE.
IT, IT'S A, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IN SOME PLACES I'VE BEEN, THIS IS A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM.
THAT THEY RESPOND IN A TIMELY FASHION.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT 'CAUSE I'M STANDING HERE, I'D SAY THAT ANYWHERE.
I'M NOT THE MOST VERTICALLY CHA, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE VERTICALLY CHALLENGED.
I'M THE MOST INTIMIDATING PERSON.
SO A LOT OF TIMES THE LI EXCUSE THE EXPRESSION, LIQUID MUSCLES COME OUT AND, AND IT'S LIKE, HEY LISTEN.
YOU KNOW, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN TO KEEP IT UNDER CONTROL.
OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, CALL FOR THE VOTE NOW.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST BY TP MIDTOWN, LLC PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
GARY, WE'LL SAVE YOU A TRIP BACK HERE.
IS, UH, HERE IS YOUR BEER PERMIT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS BEFORE THE UH, BEER BOARD THIS EVENING? HEARING NONE.
WE WILL RECONVENE IN SEVEN MINUTES.