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[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing July 3, 2024 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting. ]
MINUTES LATE.OH, AND COULD I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? YEAH.
WHAT HAPPENED ON THE COSTCO? I HAVEN'T WATCHED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
IT WAS APPROVED A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION AND IT WAS APPROVED.
THEIR ENGINEERS OR TRIBAL PEOPLE SAY IT'S, IT'LL WORK.
WELL, PEOPLE THAT ASKED ME WERE ALL FOR IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, SIX TO FOUR, I DON'T BUY GAS.
PAY A LITTLE MORE TO GET IN THOSE.
WHAT DID OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAID? YES, HE CONCURRED WITH THEIR REVIEW.
IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE INTUITIVELY YOU THINK YOU'RE SHORTENING THE QUEUE LINE, SO IT CAN'T BE GOOD, BUT IN THEIR RESPONSES, WELL, IF A CAR'S SITTING THERE IN THE SAME PLACE QUEUING TO WAIT TO GET TO A PUMP, WHY NOT HAVE A PUMP THERE SO THEY CAN FILL AND THEN GET OUT OF THE WAY? AND THAT'S WAS THEIR BASIS OF SAYING IT WILL ACTUALLY, THAT'S LOGICAL.
GREG, JUDY WAS REAL BUSY THE OTHER NIGHT.
UM, WE DO HAVE BEER BOARD ON MONDAY NIGHT, SO 6 45, UH, ONE ITEM, FAVORITE RESTAURANT
UH, THE ONLY ITEM, UH, WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SWEARING ENDS OR, OR OTHER KIND OF PRE-MEETING, UM, ITEMS. SO WE'LL MOVE INTO CONSENT.
AGENDA ITEM ONE IS AN AGREEMENT WITH MAJORS CONSTRUCTION FOR, UH, PORTION OF THE CROCKETT PARK PAVILION REBUILD.
I'LL LET JAY OR CHARLES KIND OF, THIS IS OUR THIRD ATTEMPT AT THIS.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS KIND OF A, A ONE OFF PROJECT.
WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT WE SELECTED HOMESTEAD TIMBER FRAMES TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE PAVILION PART, BUT THEN WE NEEDED A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT INTEGRATOR TO DO THE REST OF IT AND ACTUALLY TO PULL THE PERMIT FOR IT.
THE THIRD TIME, UH, MAJOR'S CONSTRUCTION, UH, WAS ABLE TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SCOPE AFTER WE NARROWED THE SCOPE TO REMOVE THE MOST, UH, CHALLENGING ASPECT OF IT, WHICH IS THE SPLITTING OF THE HISTORIC TIMBERS AND THE CREATION OF THE WALL AND THE SIDING.
AND WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER PHASE AND PUT THAT OUT SEPARATELY SO A CONTRACTOR CAN FOCUS JUST ON IT, NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HISTORIC TIMBER FRAMES AND THE OTHER ELEMENTS.
AND GO AHEAD AND KNOCK THAT OUT.
SO WE'LL GET A CO AND BE COMPLETED WITH IT.
THEN GO BACK OUT FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECT.
FINGERS ARE CROSSED THAT THE REMAINING BALANCE IN THE PROJECT FUNDS WILL BE ENOUGH FOR FOR US TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'S THE, THE WALL, THE WINDOWS, AND THE SIDING ITSELF, AND THEN THE WAY IT TIES IN.
BUT AS FAR AS THE PAVILION ITSELF, IT'LL LOOK LIKE A PARK PAVILION WITH TWO CHIMNEYS, UM, AND, AND WAITING FOR THE REST TO BE PUT ON IT.
SO WHAT'S THAT LEAVE FOR THE REMAINING? IT'S ABOUT 53,000, I BELIEVE.
AND SO, UH, WITH A $10,000 OWNER'S CONTINGENCY IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, IS UNFORESEEN, THE TOTAL PROJECT AMOUNT WOULD BE 107,000 936 31 FOR THIS CONTRACT WITH MAJORS CONSTRUCTION.
HAS JOE BEEN CONTACT? OH, YES.
HE, HE'S BEEN WITH US THE WHOLE WAY.
UH, WELL, I KNOW, AND I JUST THOUGHT AT THIS POINT HE'S STILL IN THE LOOP.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYBODY IN MIND FOR THE NEXT PHASE? IT, IT COULD WIND UP BEING, IT COULD WIND UP BEING MAJORS OR IT, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER HISTORIC TYPE OF CONTRACTOR.
UM, BUT I THINK THERE WAS ENOUGH UNEASINESS WITH THIS THAT THEY, WE FELT LIKE IT NEEDED TO BE SEPARATED OUT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T BEING SUCCESSFUL KEEPING IT ALL TOGETHER.
WELL, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU, JAY, FOR SHEPHERDING THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME OVER A YEAR.
AND THANKS TO JOE GROSSEN FOR HIS HELP.
I'M GLAD WE'RE GETTING TO SEE SOMETHING COME UP OUT HERE.
JACK, DID WE HAVE A REJECTED COMPLETION DATE ON THAT YET? IT'S PROBABLY IN THERE, BUT I HAVEN'T READ THE, UH, YES MA'AM.
HOPING TO DO A HALLOWEEN THING, BUT THAT MAY BE PUSHING IT.
WE BETTER HOLD OFF FOR YOU, BUT OCTOBER 30TH, IT'S JUST THIS PART, NOT THE WALLS BEING CORRECT.
ITEM TWO IS A RENEWAL OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH WINDROW PHILLIPS GROUP FOR OUR GOVERNMENT RELATIONS SERVICES.
UM, REPRESENTING US PRIMARILY AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND STATE AGENCIES INCREASED IN THE PROPOSED PRICE THIS YEAR.
YOU'VE BEEN PLEASED WITH THEM.
YEAH, AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, WE, WE, THE BENEFIT IS, IS THE OTHER CITIES, THEY ALSO
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REPRESENT, WE KIND OF CREATE A, A LITTLE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GROUP OF MEDIUM SIZED CITIES ACROSS THE STATE THAT WHILE WE ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR LEGISLATORS, IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT GIVES US AN END WITH OTHER LEGISLATORS ACROSS THE STATE TO HELP KIND OF BUILD A COALITION ON ISSUES.WHAT I MEAN, WE DON'T USUALLY HAVE THAT MUCH OF A PROACTIVE WHERE WE'RE SEEKING TO GET SOMETHING ADOPTED, ALTHOUGH WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPTION.
A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE DID WAS, IF YOU REMEMBER, A COUPLE OF THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THE SPECIAL ELECTION AND THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT, UM, GENERALLY WE'RE PLAYING DEFENSE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SINCE WE'RE KIND OF IN LIKE A GROUP OF THESE OTHER CITIES, WHAT HAPPENS WITH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DIFFERING PHILOSOPHY ON SOMETHING, LET'S SAY FROM GATLINBURG THAT MIGHT BE OKAY WITH VRBO, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WELL, I MEAN, IN, IN THE VRBO ONE IS A, IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
IN THAT CASE, UM, WITH GATLINBURG, THEY ACTUALLY HAD SOME CONCERNS.
THEY, THEY ALLOW THEM IN CERTAIN PLACES AND NOT OTHERS.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MUCH OF CONFLICT.
AND, AND IN THAT CASE, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH OUR LEGISLATORS TO GET OURSELVES CARVED OUT IN A WAY THAT DIDN'T OKAY.
AFFECT THOSE WHO WERE FAVORABLE TO IT.
BUT I GUESS IF THERE EVER WAS A PURE HARD AND FAST CONFLICT, THEY'D HAVE TO JUST BACK OUT OF BOTH OF THEM.
IS THAT THE ETHICAL? PROBABLY.
SO, AND, AND AS KIRK SAID, WE, WE HAVE HAD A FEW THINGS WHERE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO THE LEGISLATORS, THIS IS HOW IT WORKS FOR THIS TYPE OF CITY.
AND, AND KEEP THAT TO WHERE IT DIDN'T OCCUR, BUT THEY WOULD BACK OUT.
ITEM THREE IS AN AGREEMENT WITH SPEC CO ENERGY SOLUTIONS TO REPLACE UNDERGROUND DIESEL TANK, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
YOU WANNA GO OVER THIS ONE QUICK? YEAH.
COMMISSIONERS DURING CIP AND BUDGET, WE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM AT THE SERVICE CENTER.
WE HAVE AN AGING DIESEL FUEL TANK.
UM, IT'S UNDERSIZED REALLY FOR OUR NEEDS.
IT'S AN INTERCONNECTED TWO TANKS, 1000 AND 2000 GALLONS.
UM, IT HAS SOME REFUELING ISSUES AND SO REPLACING IT WITH AN 8,000 GALLON TANK IS WHAT WE PUT OUT TO BID.
AMERICAN PETROLEUM, SPCO AND TPM GROUP, UM, SPCO HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK FOR THE CITY AND THEY'RE VERY CAPABLE.
WE HAVE MOVED OUR SERVICE CALLS AWAY FROM SPCO AND OVER TO AMERICAN PETROLEUM JUST BECAUSE RESPONSIVENESS WASN'T THE BEST.
AND AMERICAN HAS BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT RESPONSES, BUT BOTH COMPANIES ARE VERY KING.
UNFORTUNATELY, AMERICAN'S SUBMITTAL IS DEFICIENT SUCH THAT WE COULD NOT ACCEPT IT.
AND SO, UH, SPAC O'S PROPOSAL 180 8, 0 63 36 IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
PLUS, IF YOU WILL, A $25,000 CONTINGENCY.
OR WE UNCOVER ANY CONTAMINATED SOILS OR EXTRA ROCK OR SOMETHING, SUBSURFACE CONDITIONS.
IT COULD BE PIPE LOCATIONS THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
'CAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ADD, WE DON'T HAVE AS BUILTS ON FUEL SYSTEM.
UM, SO IF YOU'D ALLOW $25,000, WE WOULD USE THAT JUST TO NOT, UM, STOP THE PROJECT.
IN THE EVENT THAT THEY ENCOUNTER SOMETHING, IF THEY DO ENCOUNTER SUBSTANTIAL SOILS THAT NEED REMEDIATION, WE'D BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH THAT ITEM.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT CAN GET EXPENSIVE.
SO WHY IS YEAH, PPM SO MUCH HIGHER? IS THERE SOMETHING THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT WE DIDN'T, THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE OR WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT? I, I HAVE NO IDEA.
IT DOESN'T, THAT, THAT PRICE DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO US.
SO THERE'S NOTHING, DON'T BELIEVE SO ADDITIONAL THAT WE'RE MISSING THE BOAT.
UH, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN RE UM, RESPONSIVE.
I, I, THEY, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN DECLARED NON-RESPONSIVE ALSO.
AND I DON'T, I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT IT 'CAUSE OF THE PRICE.
UM, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO AN ONSITE VISIT, WHICH I REQUIRED FAMILIARITY WITH THE SITE.
AND IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT, WE WOULD SCHEDULE A VISIT FOR THEM TO COME OUT AND INSPECT.
SO THEY, THEY TOO WOULD'VE BEEN NON-RESPONSIBLE.
DO YOU KNOW IF THESE TANKS HAVE A FLOATING CEILING? FLOAT CEILING? SEE, FUEL IS VERY VOLATILE, LIKE THE BOILING TEMPERATURE OF GASOLINE.
THERE'S 39 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT.
SO REALLY GOOD FUEL TANKS HAVE A CEILING THAT FLOATS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ALL VAPORS BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE FILLING THE TANKS, YOU CAN GET VAPORS IF IT DOES NOT HOLD THOSE VAPORS DOWN, BECAUSE AS SOON AS IT HITS OXYGEN AND DIESEL'S PROBABLY MORE LIKE 50 51 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT FAULT TEMPERATURE, WELL, EVEN UNDERGROUND, WHERE IT'S COOLER AROUND HERE, PROBABLY NINE MONTHS OUTTA THE YEAR WE'RE ABOVE THOSE TEMPERATURES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT ASK.
THEY MAY SAY YOU DON'T NEED THAT FOR DIESEL, BUT IT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GETTING WHEN THEY'RE FUELING.
AND IT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON WHAT YOU MIGHT LOSE, EVEN THOUGH THESE TANKS WILL BE MUCH BETTER ENVIRONMENTALLY BECAUSE OF, UH, IF THAT WAS PUT IN 91, THEY HAVE SO MANY MORE EVAPORATIVE EMISSIONS CONTROLS ON FUEL
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TANKS THAN, THAN THEY USED TO.SO OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE IN HERE.
IT MAY BE A STANDARD THING THEY DO ON 'EM.
AND I CAN TELL YOU IT'S NOT CALLED OUT IN THE SPECS ANYWHERE.
AND I HAD NOT HEARD ANYBODY MENTION IT, BUT I'LL, I'LL ASK.
THEY MAY SAY, WELL, THAT TANKS $900,000 AND THEN THAT MIGHT NOT BE WORTH FIVE.
BUT, BUT THAT I JUST, WE, MY MOM WAS EVEN A LOBBYIST AND IT WAS ON THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT DID UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS.
THIS IS LIKE 30 SOMETHING YEARS AGO, THE LEGISLATURE.
SO I HAVE SO SOME FAMILIAR AND I'M A MASTER MECHANIC.
AND SO THOSE KIND OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT TOO.
AND I SHOULD HAVE NOTED IT IS A FIBERGLASS REINFORCED TANK.
IT'S NOT A STEEL TANK, WHICH IS WHAT IN WHAT'S IN THERE TODAY.
THERE'S A MUCH LONGER LEAD TIME ON STEEL TANKS.
UM, MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY IS 30 YEARS ON EITHER, AND SOME BELIEVE THAT FIBER LASTS, LASTS LONGER.
UM, BUT IT JUST SEEMED LIKE A BETTER IDEA TO GO WITH FIBERBLAST.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING UNDERGROUND THINGS, I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT WHAT YOU TELL Y'ALL HOW HAS BEEN RECENTLY.
OUR GRINDER PUMP, UM, OVERFLOWED BECAUSE OF A BREAK IN OUR SEWER LINE AND I GOT THAT FIXED.
THEN THREE DAYS LATER, UH, IT WENT OUT AGAIN AND IT WAS THE SEWER BOX, SOME PART IN THERE.
WELL, WHEN THE GUYS CAME OVER, THEY COULDN'T FIND THE SEWER BOX.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE YOUR, YOUR WATER METER IN THE YARD WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT.
THEY COULDN'T FIND MINE OR MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHEN MALLORY VALLEY PUT IN THE NEW WATER LINES DOWN OUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN REDID THAT PORTION OF OUR YARDS.
BUT THE GIS WORKED, THEY SAID WE MAY HAVE TO POKE A FEW HOLES AND DIG A FEW HOLES TO FIND IT, BUT THE FIRST ONE THEY FOUND IT WOW.
SO IT REALLY PAID OFF IN THE LONG RUN.
YEAH, WE HAVE 'EM ALL GIS IF YOU CAN VISUALLY SEE IT, HOPEFULLY WE'RE ACCURATE, FIND IT.
BUT YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK IN YOUR YARD AND SEE IF YOU COULD SEE YOURS, IF THERE'S BEEN ANY KINDA LANDSCAPING WORK.
AND THAT'S IF YOU HAVE A GRINDER PUMP, IF YOU, THAT'S IF YOU HAVE A GRINDER PUMP.
IF PUMP, IF YOU HAVE A GRAVITY, ANY SEWER, YOU WON'T HAVE A BOX RIGHT NOW.
MALLORY VALLEY DID NOT COVER UP THEIR WATER PUMP.
I MEAN THEIR WATER, UH, UM, METER.
ALRIGHT, ITEM FOUR IS AN AGREEMENT TO RENEW, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT'S PAVEMENT EVALUATION AND RANKING, UH, SYSTEM WITH STREET SCAN.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE SYSTEM WHERE THEY GO OUT AND SOMEHOW IN A VEHICLE TAKE VIDEO OF ALL OF OUR STREETS AND THEN CATEGORIZE THAT, UM, IN TERMS OF CONDITION.
AND THEN TODD USES THAT TO HELP GUIDE HIS, UH, SELECTION OF ROADS FOR THE RE ANNUAL REPAVING PROGRAM.
WE DID THIS IN 2001 AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT KIND OF EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
SO HE IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE, EXCUSE ME, WE RENEW WITH STREET SCAN.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING KIND OF A WAIVER OF COMPETITIVE BIDDING HERE, ONLY BECAUSE WE TOOK PROPOSALS LAST TIME THEY WERE THE LOWEST.
AND NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THEIR SYSTEM AND CONSISTENT RANKING OF THE ROADS, IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT FIRM.
SO WE DON'T GET, UH, A NEW FIRM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'VE GOT A LITTLE NUANCE TO THE WAY THEY RANK IT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT, YOU KNOW, SWITCHES ALL AROUND KIND OF WHERE WE THOUGHT WE'D BEEN GOING.
SO HE'S RECOMMENDING THAT WE STAY WITH STREET SCAN.
WHAT'S THE PRICE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRIOR, UH, CONTRACT IN THIS CONTRACT? UM, THEY WERE AT 48,000 THE LAST TIME.
SO JUST A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE OVER THREE YEARS ALSO SEEMED A REASONABLE WITH SOME ADDITIONAL STREETS BEING ADDED.
UM, AND SO, BUT, AND THEN WE ARE ASKING, UM, SMALL CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE OF, I COME UP WITH 1450 INSTEAD OF 1500, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL STREETS THAT GET, UM, ACCEPTED BY THE CITY BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DO THE SERVICE.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYTHING, EVEN IF IT'S NEWLY PAID, WE JUST WANT IT DOCUMENTED.
SO ON SIDE NOTE, THE POST OFFICE, THE BROOKLYN POST OFFICE POTHOLES HAVE BEEN REPAIRED.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BY, HOPEFULLY IT'LL HOLD FOR A FEW YEARS, BUT IF YOU HEAR FROM RESIDENTS, IT'S BEEN REDONE.
SO I WONDER IF IT'S, HAS IT BEEN REDONE IN A, WHAT I WOULD CALL A PROPER WAY OR JUST A HALF PASTURE WAY? I WONDER? WELL, IT, IT'S DONE.
YOUR VEHICLE IS NO LONGER AT RISK OF FALLING INTO THE POTHOLES.
SO ALL MY BUDDY SAID THEY JUST FILLED IN THE POT.
IT WAS, IT'S ASPHALT FILLING, PATCHING.
SO IT'LL EVENTUALLY, PROBABLY IN THE DARK OF NIGHT SOMEBODY PUT SOME COLD PATCH AND JUST DID IT
BUT TODD DID REACH OUT TO LEGISLATORS AND THEIR OFFICES AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPED.
WE CALL METRO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
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UM, ON A RELATED NOTE, IF I, I DON'T WANNA TAKE TOO MUCH TIME, BUT WE ALSO GET CALLS ABOUT PURE DRIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT SOUTHERN END OF PUB DRIVE? MM-HMM.SO WE'VE UM, AS YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE TOLD Y'ALL BEFORE, WE'VE ALWAYS IN THE PAST HAVE OFFERED IF THEY WILL DEDICATE, 'CAUSE SOME OF THOSE DEEDS GO TO THE CENTER OF THE ROAD, ALL THAT STUFF, THEY WILL DEDICATE, NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE PAVEMENT AREA.
WE NOT ASKING FOR MORE THAT WE WOULD COME IN AND ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY.
THE COMMISSION ACTUALLY PRIOR COMMISSION IN 2004 WHEN WE WERE DOING ALL THE TOWN CENTER STUFF, APPROVED A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO ACCEPT ANY SUCH DEDICATIONS.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE KINDA UPROAR AGAIN.
WE'RE GONNA REACH OUT TO THOSE, JUST THAT SOUTHERN END, NOT UP THERE BY THE ACE HARDWARE OR WHATEVER, JUST THAT SOUTHERN END.
REACH OUT TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AGAIN AND SEE IF THERE'S EITHER BEEN A CHANGE OF HEART AND OR CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP THAT MAYBE IS WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT DEDICATION AGAIN.
AND I GUESS I'M ASSUMING EVEN THOUGH THAT RESOLUTION IS 20 YEARS OLD, THAT YOU ALL ARE STILL BE WILLING TO OH YEAH.
IF, JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT'S A PRIVATE ROAD.
THE SECTION THAT HASN'T BEEN IMPROVED OR THE SECTION THAT'S NOT IN FRONT OF ANY REDEVELOPED PROPERTIES AS THOSE FROM CHURCH TO LOCAL TACO USED TO BE, IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT PINNACLE BANK AND THE VANDERBILT CLINIC AREA.
YOU COULD SEE WHERE IT'S REALLY THE HERB, LOCAL TACO.
THAT'S WHERE THE OLD, THE NORTHERN EDGE OF LOCAL TACO TO CHURCH STREET IS.
THAT IS THE PRIVATE SECTION OFPUT THAT YOU'RE THERE.
NORTH HAS BEEN REDEVELOPED AND THEREFORE THEY'VE DEDICATED AT THAT TIME.
THE PROBLEM THAT WAS LIKE ONE OWNER AND EVERYBODY IN THERE HAD 99 YEAR LEASES AND THINGS.
HAS THAT MAJOR OWNERSHIP CHANGED? THE OWNERSHIP OF THAT STRIP CENTER HAS CHANGED, YES.
OH, THAT OWNER IS VERY SUPPORTIVE.
SO THAT COULD AFFECT THE OUTCOME.
I KNOW AT LEAST TWO THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO US.
BUT THERE'S FIVE OR SIX MM-HMM.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, LET Y'ALL KNOW WE WERE GONNA MAKE THAT EFFORT AGAIN AND THAT YOU ALL WERE WILLING TO STILL HONOR THAT 2004.
SO WE WOULDN'T NEED ANYTHING MORE UNLESS KRISTEN SAYS CAN WE, CAN WE LOOK AT THAT 2004 DOCUMENT JUST TO KNOW WHAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING? WE WOULD AGREE TO KIND OF JUST YEAH, I'LL GET A, I MEAN I'VE GOT A COPY.
IT JUST SAYS THAT CITY AGREES TO ACCEPT IT AND THAT FOR IT TO BECOME A PUBLICLY MAINTAINED ROAD THEREAFTER.
BUT IT'S JUST, YEAH, I'LL SEND IT.
YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD SEE IT.
ITEM FIVE IS A RENEWAL OR A, NOT A RENEWAL, I GUESS IT'S AN UPGRADE OF OUR POLICE RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
UM, IT'S IN THE CIP AND THIS TAKES IT FROM KIND OF A PARTIAL CLOUD-BASED, PARTIAL LOCAL HOSTED TO ALL CLOUD-BASED, UM, WITH CENTRAL SQUARE, WHICH IS THE, UH, OUR VENDOR FOR THAT $110,000 TO, UH, TO DO THAT.
AND AGAIN, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE CIP FOR THAT.
I WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT A MINUTE.
NOT THAT PER SE, BUT IT TIES IN THE WORD RECORDS.
YOU KNOW, WE, RICHARD REACHED OUT TO US EARLIER IN THE YEAR TO ABOUT CHANGING THE WAY THEY REPORT THEIR DATA AND FOR SUGGESTIONS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS, A COUPLE OF 'EM I SUGGESTED IS THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD LOCATE THOSE ITEMS IN OUR RECORDS.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY NOT.
AND I THINK THE POLICE REPORT WE GOT IS EXCELLENT IN TERMS OF IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S GOOD PR, YOU GET A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH LOOK AT WHO THE PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE WORKING FOR US.
BUT I STILL DIDN'T THINK A LOT OF THE DETAILS THAT I WANT TO KNOW ARE IN THERE.
I WANTED TO KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT'S JUST I'M THE ONLY ONE.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT DRUG USE IN THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE.
I WANTED TO KNOW HOW MANY RESPONSE CALLS WE HAD TO MAKE REGARDING OVERDOSES AND WHY WOULDN'T THAT RECORD BE HARD TO ACCESS? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'D HAVE THAT.
AND I THINK IT MIGHT NOT BE FULLY INDICATIVE BECAUSE PARDON? THE ONES GOING, PARDON ME.
IT MIGHT NOT BE FULLY INDICATIVE BECAUSE IF IT'S A CALL MADE TO THE SCHOOL, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS GONNA HANDLE THAT.
WELL, I'M SAYING THE ONES WE RESPOND TO.
THAT'S ALL I WANNA KNOW IS HOW MANY WE RESPOND TO.
AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED, YOU KNOW, WE COVER ALL THE MOTOR VEHICLE THEFTS, THE GRAFFITI, ALL THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S THIS HUGE CATEGORY OF OTHER ASSAULTS, UH, DOMESTIC ABUSE.
UM, BUT I MEAN, CAN'T WE LIVE SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE, I DON'T THINK
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WE'RE OVERWHELMED WITH THOSE.I THINK PEOPLE MIGHT BE REASSURED SOMETIMES TO SEE THAT THERE AREN'T THAT MANY BIG VIOLENT CRIMES THAT OTHER IS MOSTLY SHOPLIFTING AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
UH, I JUST THINK YOU COULD PROVIDE A LOT MORE DETAIL THAN THAT REPORT PROVIDES.
AND I, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO YOU IN TERMS OF, WELL, I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S CERTAIN CATEGORIES WE HAVE TO REPORT AND THAT'S HOW WE CAPTURE IT, I'M ASSUMING.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT FURTHER BREAKDOWN THERE WOULD BE.
WELL, I THINK I AM NOT GOING TO HIM PERSONALLY AND INSTRUCT HIM, I'M TELLING YOU.
YOU CAN DISCUSS IT WITH HIM, BUT, UM, I, I, I THINK WHAT IT WAS BEAUTIFULLY DONE REPORT.
I JUST THINK IT CAN GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN IT DOES IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
AND I REMEMBER ONE TIME SEVERAL YEARS AGO, MY HUSBAND'S COUSIN ASKED ME ABOUT CRIME REPORT OUT OF SOMEWHERE.
AND I SAID, WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE ORIGINAL CRIME WAS.
I SAID, IF YOU HAD NO MURDERS, THEN YOU HAVE ONE THE NEXT YEAR, YOUR MURDER RATE IS JUMPED A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I SAID, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE BACKGROUND.
SO I THINK THE MORE WE CAN MAKE THINGS CLEAR FOR PEOPLE, THE BETTER IT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE GET ALL BENT OUTTA SHAPE TO HEAR ABOUT ONE BAD INCIDENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE IT BECOMES MONUMENTAL AND MAYBE IT REALLY WASN'T START WITH.
SO JUST SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE THEM TO LOOK AT.
ON THE OVERDOSE SPECIFICALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT POTENTIALLY IS MORE OF A FIRE MEDICAL RESPONSE RECORD.
WHO GIVES, I DUNNO, IS THAT BOTH, BOTH COULD WHOEVER THE FIRST RESPONDER THAT HAS IT OR REMEMBER DURING BUDGET TALKS, NOT THIS ONE, MAYBE LESS TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH OUR USAGE OF NARCAN HAS GONE UP.
WELL, I'M CURIOUS IF A FIRE RESPONSE TO EMS RESPONSE TO AN OVERDOSE, SURELY THERE'S A FOLLOW UP WITH THE POLICE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF DRUGS THEY WERE, WHERE THEY WERE OBTAINED WAS THE PRESCRIPTION THAT THE PERSON ACCIDENTALLY TOOK.
I MEAN, ISN'T THERE A FOLLOW UP? YEAH.
WELL THEN THE POLICE WOULD BE INVOLVED AT SOME POINT AND THEY WOULD KNOW WHETHER IT WAS REPORTABLE OR SIMPLY A MEDICATION OVERDOSE THAT A PERSON DIDN'T INTEND TO DO OR SOMETHING.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO GETTING OFF THE HOOK WITH THAT ONE.
THEY WOULD KNOW ABOUT OVERDOSES.
WELL, I'M NOT SAYING THEY WOULDN'T KNOW.
NO, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING'S THE PRIMARY RECORD.
I'M SAYING THAT THE FIRE WENT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH REASON TO SAY, WELL, THE POLICE WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
UM, ITEMS. AND I DON'T WANNA SOUND CRITICAL OF 'EM 'CAUSE I'M NOT, I'M JUST SAYING I THINK THERE'S MORE INFORMATION THAT IS THERE THAT WE NEED TO SEE.
ITEM SIX IS THE, UH, ENDORSEMENT OF THE APPLICATION TO TDOT FOR THE MULTIMODAL ACCESS GRANT FRANKLIN ROAD FROM CONCORD TO FOUNTAINHEAD.
WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME.
I THINK THE UPDATED INFORMATION YOU HAVE THIS TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE AT THE TIME WAS KIND OF WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE WAS.
AND RIGHT NOW NEIL SCHAFER IS ESTIMATING IT AT, UH, 2.18 MILLION.
SO THIS GRANT WOULD BE A MILLION, A LITTLE OVER A MILLION.
SO ROUGHLY IT WOULD END UP BEING A 50% GRANT IF, UH, IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL.
AND THAT'S 2.18 FOR THIS SECTION.
THE NEXT SECTION WAS ANOTHER MILLION-ISH.
'CAUSE I THINK FROM THE OVERALL THING, LIKE THREE SOMETHING THE OVER YEAH.
AND AGAIN, UM, THAT AS WITH MOST PROJECTS, THAT NUMBER WILL CHANGE AS TIME GOES BY.
UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE OUR CHANCES ON THIS, BUT IT'S ZERO IF YOU DON'T TRY SO.
AND SO IF WE GET THIS, THEN WE'RE ALREADY COMMITTING TO A MILLION 0.1 2000.
AND THEN ANOTHER 125,000 WOULD BE LOCAL.
SO THE DIFFERENCE IS ABOUT 1.2.
THAT WE WOULD THEN NEED TO MAKE UP TO, TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT BASED UPON THAT ESTIMATE AND ASSUMING A FULL GRANT.
AND WHAT'S THE LENGTH OF THIS SECTION? 3000 FEET.
SO IT WOULD BE CONCORD TO FOUNTAIN, HEAD TO THAT SIGNAL ON THE EAST SIDE OF ROAD.
AND THIS, THIS, THIS SEGMENT INCLUDES ANY UPGRADES AND ADDITIONS TO THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THERE THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.
JUST, JUST THERE AT FOUNTAINHEAD.
SO HOW DO PEOPLE GET OVER CONCORD IF THIS HAPPENS? HOW DO PEOPLE GET OVER CONCORD TO SOUTH FRANKLIN ROAD? LIKE IF THEY'RE HEADED SOUTH ON FRANKLIN ROAD TO WILLOW? I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A CROSS SIGNAL THERE.
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WELL, THERE, THAT'S THROUGH THE MEDIAN.YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A P SIGNAL ON THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT FOUNTAINHEAD IN OMAN OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DOWN AT CONCOR CON? SURE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT BOTH, BUT I'M SPECIFICALLY ASKING ABOUT, UM, CONCORD AND FRANKLIN.
HOW DO PEOPLE CROSS CONCORD? 'CAUSE THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE ON THAT SIDE ACROSS THE STREET.
THERE'D BE A, YOU'D HAVE, THERE'D BE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS AT THAT ANSWER.
IF, IF, IF THEY'RE NOT, THERE'RE ALREADY.
UH, COMMISSIONER, I DON'T HAVE THE PLANS IN FRONT OF 'EM IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW.
BUT, UH, THIS PLAN DOES INCLUDE ALL THE ACCESS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO GET PEOPLE ACROSS CONCORD AT THE SOUTH AND ACROSS, UH, FOUNTAIN HEAD ACROSS FRANKLIN.
AND THOSE, UH, CORNERS ARE ALREADY AADA A COMPLIANT.
I MEAN, THEY JUST WERE REDONE RIGHT? WHEN WE WHEN THEY RED DONE REDONE PROJECT? YEAH.
I DON'T THINK THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGNALS ARE AT CONCORD.
SO THEY WOULD BE ADDED WITH THIS.
SO AS LONG AS IT'S IN THIS PRESENTED BUDGET AND THAT HELPS US KNOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
AND AND ABOUT THE PRESENTED BUDGET, THE MAIN REASON I STOOD UP IS BECAUSE IN YOUR PACKETS YOU HAVE A, A BUDGET TEMPLATE FOR AN ESTIMATED COST.
UH, WANTED TO MAKE ONE CORRECTION TO THAT AT THE BOTTOM.
AND, AND THAT INCLUDES RIGHT OF WAY CONTINGENCY AND EVERYTHING OF 2.1.
IT SHOWS THAT THE PERCENTAGE, UH, THAT COULD BE AWARDED WOULD BE 1.9.
AS KIRK MENTIONED, ACTUALLY THIS GRANT IS ONLY FOR 1.25.
SO THE REMAINING LOCAL EXPENSE THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER 900,000.
WE'LL GET THAT CORRECTED IN, INTO YOUR PACKET BEFORE THE MEETING.
BUT THE 1.25 ALREADY INCLUDES OUR 10% TOO.
SO REALLY IT'S ALMOST 1.2 THAT WAS MENTIONED.
SO COULD YOU POINT ON THAT, UH, GRID? WHERE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? BOTTOM LINE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK HAVE Y'ALL HEARD FROM, UH, SOME OF THE LANDOWNERS ON THE EAST SIDE OF FRANKLIN ROAD? WELL, THERE'S TWO IMPACTED.
AND THEN, UM, SHAMBLIN, UH, WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, MR. TURNER WAS, I'LL BE GLAD TO WORK WITH YOU.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW THE EXACT DETAILS OF WHAT, WHAT THE IMPACT IS.
SO, AND WHAT WAS THAT DATE WHEN YOU TALKED TO HER? OH, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS AGO.
UM, AND THEN AT THE TIME, UM, GWEN SHAMBLIN WAS SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
WE HAVE NOT OBVIOUSLY TALKED TO HER DAUGHTER SINCE THEN.
AND THAT, THAT CONVERSATION WAS ALSO SAME TIME.
WHEN WE ORIGINALLY FIRST PROPOSED A GRANT FOR THIS LAST, WHENEVER THAT WAS.
AND AS WE, WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LAST, UM, TIME, IF, IF WE ACTUALLY WERE AWARDED THIS, I THINK BEFORE WE ASKED YOU TO ACTUALLY APPROVE THE CONTRACT THAT WOULD FORMALLY COMMIT THE CITY TO THE PROJECT, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY GO BACK OUT AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
NOW THAT WE'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE DESIGN WORK, WE CAN ACTUALLY KINDA SHOW WHAT THE IMPACT MIGHT BE TOO.
IT'S ABOUT A SEVEN FOOT WIDE STRIP THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ACQUIRE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD.
AND THEN A SLOPE EASEMENT FOR THE FIELD.
THE GRADING THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.
THERE'S NEARLY $500,000 OF GRADING IN THIS CONTRACT.
SO JUST TO, FOR THE PUBLIC WATCHING, IT WOULD BE A FOUR FOOT STRIP OF GRASS FROM THE CURB? IT'S UH, FROM THE FACE OF THE CURB, IT'S FIVE FOOT.
AND THEN, UH, WHICH IT'S NOT STRIP OF GRASS 'CAUSE IT'S, THE CURB IS SIX INCHES, SO A FOUR AND A HALF FOOT GRASS STRIP.
AND IT WOULD BE ASPHALT OR CONCRETE? ASPHALT.
AND THEN MARK THE THIRD PROPERTY IS THE OMEN SUBDIVISION.
AND THEY DEDICATED THAT AT THE TIME ALREADY.
YEAH, THAT WAS, UH, WHEN WE DID THE, UH, THE SUBDIVISION.
SO THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHAT THE PRELIMINARY PLAN WOULD BE.
AND FOR THE TURNER, THE ISSUE WOULD BE THE FENCE AND HAVING TO POTENTIALLY RELOCATE HIS FENCE AND ALL THAT.
AND THEN AT THE SHAMBLIN PROPERTY, THE TRAIL WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THEIR STONE FENCE.
SO IT WOULD NOT BE AN EXISTING GREEN FENCE IS JUST OUTSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY ON THE BUDGET FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE FENCE AS WELL.
YEAH, PART OF IT'S A LOT OF IT.
ABOUT HALF OF IT'S A LOT OF SLOPE.
PART OF IT'S FAIRLY FLAT, BUT YEAH.
SO AGAIN, NOW THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND TIME, MAYBE THE THIRD TIME WE'VE APPLIED IT SAID AT LEAST A THIRD.
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AT LEAST A THIRD.UM, BUT IT'S A GRANT THAT CAN ONLY BE USED ON, UH, ADJACENT TO STATE ROUTE.
SO IT'S A LIMITED ABILITY FOR US TO HAVE ANY OTHER PROJECTS TOUCH
THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE THAT I'VE SEEN ON THAT SECOND PHASE.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THAT TODAY, BUT IT, SINCE IT'S UP HERE, UM, WHAT IS THE DISTANCE? IS IT SIMILAR? THE DRAWING MAKES IT LOOK LIKE IT WOULD BE SIMILAR? YEAH, IT, IT'S NEARLY, UH, AN EVEN SPLIT.
I THINK THE TOTAL PROJECT IS ABOUT 6,000 FEET.
AND THEN THE PORTION FROM, UM, FOUNTAINHEAD THE EXCEPTION THAT I'M, I'M SORRY WITH THE, THE EXCEPTION THAT THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IS IN THIS PROJECT AT FOUNTAIN HEAD.
UM, AND CURRENTLY, UM, IT, WELL LEMME START OVER.
THE PORTION FROM FOUNTAIN HEAD THAT WOULD GO TO THE ENTRANCE TO PRINCETON HILLS, THEN THERE IS CURRENTLY A SIDEWALK FROM PRINCETON HILLS TO MURRAY LANE.
THAT WOULD GO AWAY AND BE REPLACED WITH THE TRAIL.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY UNTIL PRINCETON HILLS OR THE WHOLE STRETCH OF IT.
UH, SO THE TRAIL IS GONNA KINDA WIGGLE IN AND OUT OF POWER POLES IN, IN THAT AREA.
SO YES, UH, THERE WILL BE SECTIONS OF RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENTS WE'LL NEED TO ACQUIRE ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THAT BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE SPOT.
SOME, SOME OF THAT IS WITHIN THE HOA, UH, OPEN SPACE.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO WOULD HAVE BETTER INPUT ON THAT THAN I, BUT I I, YEAH.
WELL AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, AND AGAIN, THESE AREN'T THE RED LINES ARE THE PARCEL LINES HERE.
SO IF IT'S BEHIND THOSE RED LINES THAT'S RIGHT AWAY THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ACQUIRED HERE.
THE PARCEL LINES, SO NOT AS MUCH FROM PRINCETON HILLS UP AS YOU MENTIONED COMMISSIONER, BUT FROM PRINCETON HILL SOUTH IS THESE TRACKS, WHICH I THINK ARE ALL THE SAME OWNERSHIP, AT LEAST THEY USED TO BE.
AND THERE'S SOME SLOPE HERE WITH THE POLES.
AND WHEN WE CON UH, CONTACTED THAT PERSON YEARS AGO, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, IF HE WAS AMENABLE TO IT, INSTEAD OF BUYING RIGHT AWAY, IF HE GRANTED AN EASEMENT AT THE BASE OF THAT SLOPE, IT WOULD COME A LITTLE FARTHER ONTO HIS PROPERTY.
BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUY AS MUCH IF HE, BUT THAT KEPT HIS SIZE OF HIS PROPERTY MORE FAVORABLE TO HIM.
UH, AND THAT'S WHERE DERRICK MENTIONED TO UTILITY POLES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND THEN YOU'D GET BACK UP HERE.
SO THERE'S COMPLEXITIES TO IT IF YOU CAN, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THIS ONE AT LEAST, THEN YOU COULD GET INTO FOUNTAINHEAD AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME OF THE INTERNAL TRAIL CONNECTIONS THROUGH PRINCETON HILLS AND OVER TO MURRAY LANE.
NOT IDEAL, BUT AT LEAST GETS YOU SOME.
BUT THERE IS INTERNAL TRAILS ON THE FIRST PHASE TO, I MEAN THERE ARE, THERE IS CONNECTIVITY DOWN STEWART INTO EAST CONCORD.
BUT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? I AM, YEAH.
NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND ALL THAT.
BUT NO WAY TO CROSS, UM, FRANKLIN ROAD.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CROSSING TO OUT TO THERE.
UH, THIS WOULD GIVE YOU A PROTECTED CROSSING HERE TO GET ACROSS AND INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS UNRELATED.
BUT ON PHASE TWO DOWN THERE AT MURRAY LANE, IN FRANKLIN ROAD, THE BIG WHITE HOUSE THERE, THERE'S SOME SURVEYOR STAKES OUT ON THEIR SIDE YARD THERE.
THAT'S NOT A LOT THAT CAN BE DIVIDED OR ANYTHING THERE.
IS THERE THIS THING HERE YOU MEAN? YEAH.
NOW THAT'S PRINCETON HILL'S OPEN SPACE.
IS THAT WHERE THE WHITE HOUSE, THE BIG, WELL, I, I MEAN, I DUNNO IF YOU MEAN THE BIG, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE BIG WHITE HOUSE.
I'M QUITE HONESTLY THAT'S RIGHT.
THE CORNER OF MURRAY LANE IN FRANKLIN ROAD.
THAT'S THAT THERE'S, THERE'S JUST SOME, I'M JUST CURIOUS, DOES THE DENTIST STILL LIVE THERE? WHAT'S HIS NAME? MOVED? HE'S MOVED NOT, BUT THERE ARE SOME SURVEYS STAKES THAT ARE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT IS, BOB.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ON THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT RIGHT THERE IS HOA OPEN SPACE.
SO IT CAN'T BE ABOUT, AND BOB, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PHASE TWO.
WHAT IS THE PROJECTED, UM, AMOUNT OF PHASE TWO AT THIS TIME? WELL, I MEAN, THE LAST ESTIMATE WAS A LITTLE OVER A THREE.
SO IF THIS IS TWO POINT, I THINK IT WAS 3.3.
SO MAYBE, I MEAN, AT THIS 0.1 SOMETHING, ONE OVER ONE FOR PHASE TWO FROM POTENTIAL PHASE TWO.
AND JUST AS YOU KNOW, THE LONGER WE WAIT ON THESE, THE MORE THINGS, THE MORE THEY GO UP.
I CAN'T SAY THAT THE ESTIMATE THAT WE DID, UH, TWO YEARS AGO FOR THE UH, 3.3, YOU KNOW, HALF THAT THIS, THIS MAY BE HALF PLUS 20%.
SO, SO, SO THAT ESTIMATE IS FROM THIS ESTIMATE WE'RE WORKING ON TODAY IS TWO YEARS OLD? NO MA'AM.
THE ONE FOR PHASE ONE IS RECENT.
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FROM THE SPRING ONE FOR PHASE ONE IS JUST FROM JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.WHAT, I'M SORRY, I'M MISSING THE QUESTION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAR.
SO THE PHASE TWO NUMBERS YOU GAVE US ARE FROM TWO YEARS AGO, RIGHT? YEAH.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED OUR TRAIL SYSTEM, FOREST HILLS GOT SOME MONEY TO DO ONE ALSO, AND THEY DIDN'T WANT IT.
AND THESE TRAILS SEEM LIKE A HUNDRED YEARS OFF, BUT YOU START SOMEWHERE AND YOU DON'T QUIT UNTIL YOU'RE FINISHED, I DON'T THINK.
WELL IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE SMALL BITES TOO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, DOABLE THAT WAY WHEN WE APPLIED PREVIOUSLY, FRANKLIN ROAD HAD NOT BEEN WIDENED AND DIDN'T HAVE THE TRAIL YET.
COULD, BECAUSE IT'S THERE ALREADY ON THE SOUTHERN SECTION, COULD IT INCREASE OUR CHANCES OF GETTING THIS THIS TIME? UM, I WOULD HOPE SO.
YOU KNOW, IN ALL OF OUR A APPLICATIONS, I THINK IT WAS 1921 AND, AND THIS ONE, UH, WE SPOKE ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, FRANKLIN ROAD IS BEING CONSTRUCTED.
THE TRAIL IS THERE, THIS WOULD ADD CONNECTIVITY.
UH, NOW THAT IT'S THERE POSSIBLY.
SO I I I'M JUST NOT QUITE SURE, UH, IT TO BE, UH, WELL, LET'S SEE.
ADMITTEDLY, UH, SOME OF THE REASONS THAT WE WEREN'T GRANTED THE AWARD IN THE PAST WERE, UH, I THINK ONE REASON WAS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ENOUGH CRASH DATA AVAILABLE.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN ABOUT 147 CRASHES, UH, WITHIN THIS STRETCH WITHIN THE PAST, UH, FIVE YEARS.
AND THEN, UH, OF COURSE, UM, SADLY CRASHES, SADLY, UH, A POLICE OFFICER LOST HIS LIFE ALONG THIS STRETCH AS WELL.
SO THERE WAS A AND A YOUNG TEENAGER LAST YEAR.
UH, SO, UH, AND THEN, UH, MOST RECENTLY, UH, I THINK IN 21, THE REASON WE DID NOT GET THE WARD WAS BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY OTHER CITIES THAT HAD APPLIED DEMOGRAPHICALLY SPEAKING.
UH, THE GRANT WAS WARRANTED FOR THOSE, UH, IN COMPARISON TO US.
UH, IN THIS CASE, UH, WE'VE HEARD THAT THE GRANT STIPULATIONS ARE A LITTLE MORE LIBERAL.
LIBERAL AND WE HA WE HA WE HOPE WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE AS KRISTEN'S LOOKING AT ME.
I'M SURE I'M JUST RAMBLING NOW.
YEAH, WE, I THINK WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE IN THIS ONE WE ARE, THE MORE MATCH YOU PROVIDE, THE MORE CHANCE YOU HAVE OF GETTING THE GRANT.
AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S ESSENTIALLY GONNA BE ABOUT A 50% MATCH.
'CAUSE THE OTHER ONE WE WEREN'T MATCHING WHERE WE, IT WAS VERY GOOD.
WELL IT WAS, YEAH, THE, THE ESTIMATES WERE LOWER AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SO WE WERE MORE IN THE, 'CAUSE IT, UH, YOU GOTTA HAVE 10% MATCH.
SO WE WERE MORE IN THE MAYBE THE 10 TO 20% MATCH AT THE TIME.
UM, AND THAT'S THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS THEY MAY GRANT US AN AWARD BUT NOT GIVE US THE FULL MILLION OR WHATEVER.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE.
AND, AND IS THAT A DECISION WE WANT TO DO? BECAUSE AGAIN, AS WE SAID, THIS IS THE APPLICATION, UM, THE ACTUAL COMMITMENT COMES AT A CONTRACTING STAGE IF WE'RE AWARDED IT.
SO IT'S NOT AN ALL OR NOTHING, IT'S NOT ONE POINT WHATEVER GRANT OR NOTHING.
I MEAN, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO SPREAD SURE.
MORE AROUND TO MORE JURISDICTIONS THAN THEY COULD REDUCE THE GRAND AMOUNT.
AND THEN AGAIN, YOU'VE GOTTA DECIDE AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHETHER IT'S, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE SAID ALL ALONG.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TAKE, WHETHER IT'S A ROAD OR OR TRAIL, WHEN YOU TAKE WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY FEDERAL MONEY BEING PASSED THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE HOOPS AND RED TAPE THAT COME WITH THAT.
AND FOR A MILLION DOLLARS YOU START GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE IT MIGHT BE WORTH IT FOR 400,000.
IT'S NOT WORTH IT JUST TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.
'CAUSE IT'LL TAKE THAT MUCH MORE TIME AND, AND, AND MONEY.
SO IF WE DON'T GET THE FULL AMOUNT, I THINK IT IT, YOU'D HAVE TO REALLY KIND OF TAKE A STEP BACK AND DECIDE WHETHER IT WAS WORTH IT DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY OFFER.
BUT WE MAY NOT GET ANYTHING EITHER.
ALRIGHT, UH, ITEM SEVEN IS, UH, AUTHORIZATION TO JOIN ANOTHER OF THE, UH, OPIOID ABATEMENT AGREEMENTS.
UM, WE'VE DONE SEVERAL OF THESE.
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT'S KROGER RELATED.
CORRECT? UM, NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN, UH, ZERO MM-HMM.
IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S, WE HAVE A, AND THAT'S A, A CONVERSATION WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE.
IT'S NOT IT DEDICATED TO ANY PURPOSE.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST COLLECTING IT.
UH, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T RUN HEALTH RELATED PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT YOU COULD PUT IT TO.
AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH MONEY THAT YOU COULD EVER REALLY, I THINK TOTAL OVER THE NEXT
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SEVEN YEARS IS MAYBE 50 40 MAYBE WITH THIS $50,000 I THINK OR SOMETHING, HONESTLY.I DON'T THINK IT'S QUITE, I THINK WE'VE GOT LIKE ABOUT 30 RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE WE GET KIND OF SOME UPFRONT BIGGER AMOUNTS AND THEN IT'S 1500 2008 YEARS.
SO WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD USE IT FOR NARCAN, BUT WE GET THAT STILL CONTINUED TO GET THAT FREE.
UM, NOW WE'VE, UH, THE COUNTY HAS REACHED OUT 'CAUSE THEY GET MUCH MORE MONEY 'CAUSE THEY RUN A HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE REST OF THAT.
AND I HAVE, UH, ASKED IF WE'RE WILLING TO CONSIDER TRANSFERRING OUR MONEY TO LEVERAGE THEIR PROGRAMS TO THE BENEFIT.
WELL THEN WE WANT, WE MAY NOT EVER SPEND IT IS ALL I'M SAYING BRANDON, ANYTHING, LET'S PUT IT TO THE DARE PROGRAM.
WE'RE STILL THE ONLY THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF DARE IS AN ALLOWABLE COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY NOT TO SPEAK FOR THE CHIEFS AND THEY WOULD PROBABLY WANNA BE HERE, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT'S STILL WAY MORE THAN WE COULD USE FOR YEAR.
SO AGAIN, THEY WOULD NEED TO SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT, UM, COMMUNITY, AGAIN, COMMUNITY EDUCATION IS AN ALLOWED USE, BUT IT'S MORE THAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE GENERALLY, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE STILL THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS A DARE PROGRAM.
I I, I I HAD HEARD THAT, BUT I DON'T, I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR SURE RIGHT NOW.
I THINK SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS A DARE PROGRAM.
NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THAT.
AND I, I, AS I UNDERSTAND, I THINK THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING LARGER COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, EDUCATION MEDIA, STUFF LIKE THAT.
I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT RICHARD THOUGHT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO US AND THAT, UH, THE NEW SHERIFF DID TOO, IS THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT CREATING A, UH, A CENTER DOWN THERE BY THE COUNTY ADMIN, UM, FOR DRUG TESTING.
UH, I KNOW APPARENTLY RICHARD, WE GET INQUIRIES ABOUT THAT FROM TIME TO TIME FOR PARENTS WHO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE OR ARE NOT DOING.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS I THINK THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING AND HAVING ACCESS TO THAT.
BUT, UM, IF WE COULD PUT IT TO THE DARE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A USE WE COULD HAVE OTHER IF, IF NOT, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD EVER SPEND IT ON.
AS OPPOSED TO SOME COUNTYWIDE PROGRAMS THAT WHERE THEY GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS I THINK AND THAT THEY'VE GOT THAT WOULD HAVE A, WE'RE NOT DECIDING TODAY WHERE WE GO NO.
OH NO, NO, THIS IS JUST SIGNING ONTO THIS AGREEMENT.
BUT WE WOULD DECIDE AT SOME POINT OR GET INPUT ON WHERE IT WENT.
I MEAN, BUT AT THIS POINT I DON'T, AGAIN, WE'LL CHECK THE DARE THING.
UM, BUT IF, IF IT CAN'T BE USED FOR DARE OR ONLY A SMALL PART OF DARE, THEN I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT ANY REFERENCE.
WELL IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF COMMUNITY SERVICE THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE CHIEFS THINK ABOUT IT TOO.
SO, UM, MAYBE WE COULD JUST WAIT TO HEAR FROM THEM AND THAT'S FINE.
WELL IF $30,000 DOESN'T GO A LONG WAY REALLY, BUT IF, IF I TRUST JEFF HUGHES TO DO A GOOD JOB AT, AT THINGS AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IF OTHER COMMUNITIES WERE, WOULD STEP UP, I WOULD NOT MIND SHARING HOURS WITH THEM IF THEY HAD A MASSIVE OH, I AGREE WITH THAT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A BIG CAMPAIGN THAT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN JUST A LITTLE DAB HERE AND A LITTLE DAB THERE.
SO, I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO THAT IDEA, BUT I'D WANT TO SEE SOME PARTICULARS FIRST.
I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU, WE, WE'VE GOT THE INFORMATION ON WHAT THEIR FIRST YEAR OF FUNDING WHERE IT WENT.
WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU TO SEE WHERE IT WAS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I SAID IS THAT IF WE'RE, IF THERE'S AN INTEREST, WE'D HAVE TO DECIDE OR HEAR FROM THEM WHAT IT WOULD DO AND WHERE'S THE BENEFIT IN BRENTWOOD.
I REALLY DO THINK THAT THAT IS, IS A MAJOR PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY AND THAT YOU CAN'T JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES TO IT.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DO.
BUT I THINK ALL OF US IN THE PUBLIC LIKE TO THINK IT, WELL IF IT'S NOT IN MY HOUSEHOLD, I'M OKAY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY THE CASE.
UH, KRISTEN, YOU SAID IT WOULD BE AROUND $3,000 A YEAR FOR THIS ONE FOR THIS TO ADD TO WHATEVER ELSE WE BE BE, YES, BUT THIS, THIS SPECIFIC, WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON CONSENT SEVEN IS NO MORE THAN $3,000.
AND, AND AGAIN, UM, COMMISSIONER SPEAR, I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GIVE A PROPOSED OR AN ESTIMATED SETTLEMENT AND THEN THEY SAY THE PERCENTAGE THAT EACH ENTITY GETS OR WILL GET.
SO WE KNOW THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE'LL GET, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT WILL BE.
SO THAT WAS JUST MY QUICK MATH BASED.
BUT, BUT THE EXPECTATION IS NO MORE THAN YEAH.
THAT'S MY EDUCATED GUESS I SHOULD SAY.
YOU CERTAINLY SOUNDED LIKE A LAWYER ANSWER.
I HATE TO SAY I DON'T BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW.
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA SIGN ON.
I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY CHRIST
BUT IF I HAD TO BET MONEY ON IT, I WOULD SAY ABOUT $3,000 FROM THIS ONE.
OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL SCHEDULE A TIME AND COME BACK AND, UH, I'LL SHARE WHAT I HAVE FROM THE COUNTY AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING WITH THEIR MONEY.
AND THEN WE'LL SCHEDULE A TIME FOR RICHARD AND, UH, AND MAKE BRIAN UNDERSTAND UNDERST, IF YOU UNDERSTAND, I ASK HIM, JEFF CAN COME THAT JOB.
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MY RESPONSIBILITY.ITEM EIGHT IS THE AGREEMENT WITH GRANICUS FOR OUR, UH, PROJECT TO UPDATE THE WEBSITE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SOME DURING THE BUDGET CIP PROCESS.
UH, GRANICUS IS OUR CURRENT WEBSITE COMPANY AND THE COST OF THIS IS, UH, 31,000 FOR THE COMPLETE REDO.
AND THEN THE, ONCE THAT'S DONE, THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE COST IS, UH, 15,600, WHICH I THINK IS FOUR OR 5,000 MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING ON THE OLD VERSION.
UM, ANY IDEA WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS ON THIS? UM, THEY TOLD US IT COULD TAKE UP TO A YEAR FOR US TO DO THE REFRESH.
SO WE'LL START AS SOON AS, UM, IF THIS IS APPROVED ON MONDAY, WE'LL START WITH THE REFRESH AND OKAY.
I, I THINK, I REALLY THINK HOW FAR WE'VE COME WITH THE WEBSITE AND CHANGES, YOU KNOW, IT, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE CHANGED IT.
AND WE REALLY DO HAVE A, A VERY, VERY NICE WEBSITE.
CHARLES, YOU WORKED REAL HARD ON.
YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.
I HATE MIMECAST
DULY NOTED
BRING YOUR, UH, WE'LL SET UP A TIME WITH YOU TO HAVE NICK CHANGE THAT FOR YOU.
YOU, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ENROLL.
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ENROLL ALL THE TIME.
AND THEN THE THING COMES ACROSS AND YOU CAN ONLY SEE HALF THE NUMBERS
IT'S LIKE MIMECAST, COMCAST, WELL CALL.
IT'S GONNA BE EVEN BETTER IN A YEAR.
AND WITH US TALKING ABOUT, I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND ME SAYING THIS.
WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY THOROUGH AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THE CONTENT IS UP TO DATE.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA TRAIN AI ON OUR WEBSITE, WE MAKE SURE WE'RE REALLY DILIGENT ON WHAT INFORMATION'S OUT THERE.
SO YEAH, WE'RE PULLING TOGETHER A TEAM OF EMPLOYEES FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO START TALKING ABOUT AI.
THE GOOD, THE BAD, WHAT
SO I, ONE PLUG FOR NEW, THE NEW WEBSITE THAT I WOULD LOVE IS I EVEN KNOW WHERE TO LOOK FOR THE RAIN GAUGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF EVERY TIME IT'S UNDER IT.
NO, THEY DO NOT KNOW THAT SO FREQUENTLY, LIKE WHEN PEOPLE START GETTING A LITTLE TWI ABOUT THE RAIN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I WILL REPOST EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CATEGORY SOMETHING.
IT'S VERY, YEAH, WE NEED SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S HARD.
IT'S CUMBERSOME TO FIND AND I DO REPOST IT SO THEY CAN LITERALLY JUST CLICK ON THE LINK AND FIND IT.
'CAUSE I HAVE TO KIND OF, YEAH, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
SO THE INTENT WITH THIS TOO WOULD BE A SINGLE DOOR WEBSITE IS WHAT THEY CALL IT.
WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO GO.
YOU CAN JUST SAY, I NEED TO FIND THE RING GAUGE.
SO THAT IS, THAT IS ONE OF THE ASKS THAT WE'VE HAD A GRANICUS IS TO MAKE IT A SINGLE DOOR GOOD WEBSITE AND, AND EASILY SEARCHABLE.
SO, OH, RING GAUGE MIGHT ALSO EQUAL WHAT? RIVER HEIGHT? FLOOD.
LIKE LOTS OF SEARCHES WOULD FIND THE SAME, UM, SOURCE OR SAME END RESULT.
WE'VE HAD THE SAME COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
ITEM NINE IS JUST APPROVAL OF OUR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, UH, PAYMENT MOTOROLA FOR THE RADIO SYSTEM.
HOW'S OUR PORTION CALCULATED? WE'RE SPLITTING WITH FRANKLIN AND WILLIAMSON.
IT'S BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SUBSCRIBER UNITS ON THE SYSTEM.
THE WRITTEN NUMBER OF RADIOS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UH, ITEM 10 IS APPROVAL TO PURCHASE TWO PICKUP TRUCKS FOR THE FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ANYBODY HERE.
UM, SIMILAR AS WE'VE DONE ON SEVERAL HERE.
UH, STATE CONTRACT IS NOT AVAILABLE.
DON'T KNOW WHEN IT TO BE AVAILABLE.
DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WOULD BE DELIVERED.
SO THEY FOUND TWO TRUCKS, UM, ON THE LOT, UH, AT OR JUST, UH, I THINK ONE IS JUST BELOW THE STATE CONTRACT PRICING AND ONE IS RIGHT AT IT.
ONE OF THESE AS A TOP ONE THERE YOU SEE IS A BATTALION CHIEF, UH, PICKUP TRUCK THAT WILL HAVE A COVERED BED THAT WILL BE ADDED ON SEPARATELY ALONG WITH THIS KIND OF COMMAND MODULE STUFF THAT SLIDES OUT OF THE BACK OF THAT.
SO THIS APPROVAL IS JUST FOR THE TRUCK.
THESE ITEMS WILL BE ADDED SEPARATELY.
UH, AND THEY'RE BELOW YOUR APPROVAL AMOUNT.
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THE DEPARTMENT WILL JUST PURCHASE THOSE DIRECTLY.THAT TRUCK IS, UM, 44 9 57 AND THEN A SERVICE TRUCK FOR OUR, UH, MAINTENANCE, UH, PERSON IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THE ONE THAT DOES MAINTENANCE ON THE APPARATUS AND STUFF.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE USING A HAND ME DOWN WATER SEWER ONE THAT'S ABOUT 20 YEARS OLD.
UM, AND SO THAT PRICE, UH, IS 57 462.
SO FOR THE TWO WITH THE ONE BEING UNDERSTATE CONTRACT, HAVING TO GO THIS ROUTE ALL IN WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT, EVERYTHING.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE BUT, BUT NOT TOO MUCH ABOVE.
UM, THE, THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE TWO COMBINED WIND UP BEING A LITTLE BIT OVER.
UM, BUT WE CAN ABSORB THAT IN THE CAPITAL PROJECT SPONSOR.
YOU KNOW, I WAS PARKED NEXT, UH, A LIGHT NEXT TO A PUBLIC WORKS TRUCK ON THE BACK AND I LOOKED AT IT AND OUR EMPLOYEES REALLY KEEP OUR EQUIPMENT LOOKING NICE.
I MEAN, EVEN A PUBLIC WORKS TRUCK THAT'S OUT DOING, YOU KNOW, THINGS OUTDOORS, IT LOOKS SO NICE.
AND OUR ON THAT WHITE BACKGROUND, OUR UM, LOGO SEAL LOOKS REALLY NICE I THINK.
THEY DO A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING THE EQUIPMENT LOOKING GOOD UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE ON THE SERVICE TRUCK, YOU REMEMBER WE ADDED THAT POSITION A COUPLE YEARS AGO, RIGHT? UH, AND FIRE SWEARS BY, BUT JUST THEY HAD A FIRE LAST WEEK I THINK OUT ON JACKSON LANE.
UM, AND ONE OF THE APPARATUS THERE SPRAYING A LEAK OR HAD SOME ISSUE OUT THERE THAT NORMALLY WOULD'VE REQUIRED THEM TOWING IT BACK FOR REPAIRS AND HE WAS ABLE TO FIX IT ON SITE.
UM, SO IN THEIR MIND, NOT ONLY FROM THE TIME AND CONVENIENCE, BUT ACTUALLY COST SAVINGS OVERALL IS KEEPING OUR EQUIPMENT BETTER SHAPE AND, AND MORE, UH, LESS DOWNTIME.
BUT ON THE TOPIC OF FIRE, IS THERE A CONTROLLED BURN THAT'S GETTING READY TO OCCUR ON UH, CONCORD ROAD? YEAH, I, IS THERE ONE, JOHN? YEAH, I JUST GOT THE EMAIL FROM UH, UH, HOPEFULLY THE 20 JULY 21ST DUE, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THE WEEKEND IS THE BEST OPTION SOON.
WHERE, WHERE AT? I'M JUST CURIOUS, DO YOU KNOW WHERE, UM, KIND OF CLOSE TO, UH, UH, INDIAN POINT.
UH, I SAW 'EM OUT THERE YESTERDAY AND ALL THE SHINGLES ARE STRIPPED AND SO YEAH, THERE WAS A COUPLE HOUSES THAT FRONT ON CONCORD THAT HAD BEEN FOR SALE.
ONE OF THOSE PROBABLY, THAT'LL BE A TOUGH ONE FOR SURE.
UM, WITH ALL OF THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES BY THERE.
I MEAN, THAT'D BE A TOUGH ONE.
UH, NO ON NEW BUSINESS FIRST IS THE AGREEMENT WITH, UH, GOVERNMENT PROFESSIONAL SOLUTIONS FOR THEIR RECRUITMENT SERVICES.
UM, AS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME, UM, THEIR CONTRACT IS 24,500 AND THEN WE'RE ASKING FOR A $5,000 CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE IN CASE YOU WANT EXTRA MEETINGS WITH THEM OR YOU WANT THEM TO DO SOME EXTRA BACKGROUND CHECKING OR WHATEVER.
SO WE'RE, UM, ADDING IN THAT TO THEIR, UM, SO I HAD SENT YOU A DRAFT CALENDAR THAT THEY HAD SENT, UM, AND THEN I HEARD BACK FROM A COUPLE COMMISSIONERS THAT, SO THEY, THIS CALENDAR WAS BASED ON, UM, FIND TO ARRANGE THEIR MEETINGS WITH YOU TO, TO MEET YOUR ALREADY SCHEDULED BRIEFING DATES TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE NEED FOR, UM, SPECIAL MEETINGS.
UM, SO THE FIRST MEETING WOULD HAVE THEM HERE, UH, YOUR NEXT BRIEFING, UM, TO KIND OF GO OVER THE SELECTION.
IF APPROVED ON MONDAY NIGHT, LIKELY TUESDAY, THEY WILL EMAIL YOU A, A SURVEY OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A REDO OF WHAT YOU DID WITH MT A S I'VE SHARED THAT WITH THEM.
BUT THEY WANNA HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION WITH EITHER CELL.
UH, I GUESS I'M, UH, THEY ASKED ABOUT DEPARTMENT HEADS.
I ASSUME YOU WOULD WANT DEPARTMENT HEADS JUST LIKE YOU DID WITH MT.
MTAS TO HAVE THAT SOME INPUT INTO THAT TOO.
AND THEN THEY PROJECT TO BE HERE AT YOUR NEXT BRIEFING ON THE 18TH, JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER THE PROFILE AND, AND CONFIRM THE SELECTION CRITERIA AND ALL THAT.
THEN THEY WOULD PREPARE THE BROCHURE, THEN THEIR NEXT, THEN THEY, THEN YOU WOULD BASICALLY TAKE THE MONTH OF AUGUST AS A RECRUIT, YOU KNOW, THE ADVERTISING PART OF IT.
SO, BUT THEN WE GET INTO SOME CONFLICTS WITH Y'ALL, UNFORTUNATELY.
SO THEY, THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT YOUR BRIEFING ON SEPTEMBER 19TH WOULD BE WHEN THEY WOULD COME TO YOU AND REVIEW THE, THE POOL AND ASK YOU TO KIND OF SELECT A GROUP OF SEMI-FINALISTS, 10 TO 15 OR SO.
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UM, AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER TRAVIS WILL NOT BE AT THAT BRIEFING, UM, BUT JUST KIND OF MOVING ON THROUGH THE SCHEDULE.UM, ONCE YOU SELECT THE SEMI-FINALISTS, THEN THEY'LL GO BACK TO THOSE SEMI-FINALISTS, ASK THEM TO DO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONNAIRES.
THEY'LL DO SOME VIDEO VIRTUAL MEETINGS WITH THEM THAT YOU'LL GET TO VIEW, AND THEY WOULD PROVIDE THEIR BRIEFING MATERIAL AND THE LINK TO THOSE VIRTUAL MEETINGS TO YOU ALL ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH AS PROPOSED.
AND THEN THEY WERE PROPOSING TO BE HERE OCTOBER 10TH TO DISCUSS YOUR SEMI-FINALISTS AND, AND FACILITATE SELECTION OF A FINALIST GROUP.
THAT DAY IS IN THE FALL BREAK WEEK OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
AND I KNOW AT LEAST TWO COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID THEY WOULD NOT BE HERE THEN.
ARE THEY ENVISIONING OUR, FINISHING OUR INFORMATIONAL MEETING AND THEN WE START THIS IN THEORY? YEAH.
I THINK THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION WE'VE EVER MADE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BE ON THOSE INFORMATIONAL AGENDAS.
I, I JUST THINK WE'RE TRYING TO CRAM THAT.
I'D RATHER SAY, IF NECESSARY, WE COME BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON AND GO TO FIVE WELL, OR DO A SEPARATE DAY FOR THAT.
THOSE ARE IMPORTANT BIG ITEMS THAT WE'VE GOT TO DECIDE.
BUT WE SHOULD PLAN TO BE HERE.
I MEAN, I, I WOULD DO IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THE, NECESSARILY THE BEST WAY OF DOING IT.
WELL, AND AGAIN, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT SOME CONFLICTS HERE, SO YOU MAY BE TALKING ABOUT A YEAH.
I KNOW THEY WERE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE US, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS WELL, ALL BACK.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SETTLE ON THIS TODAY WITH THEM, I MEAN, BUT, UM, AND HE'LL BE HERE AGAIN ON THE 18TH.
SO I THINK ON THE 18TH IS NOT AS, AS MUCH OF A DISCUSSION.
I THINK WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CANDIDATES THAT COULD GET FAIRLY LONG, BUT, WELL, I THINK WHAT IS, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
THE 18TH, THE PROFILE AND THE SELECTION CRITERIA, THAT'S HOW YOU START THE WHOLE THING.
UM, AND NOT NECESSARILY THAT DAY.
I'M WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE YOU, BUT I'M SAYING THAT TOPIC IS WORTHY OF A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
WELL, DO WE KNOW, I MEAN, NOBODY HAS ANY, YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY CONFLICTS FOR JULY 18TH, COMMISSIONER? LITTLE MM-HMM,
SO WE NOW HAVE, SO WE HAVE CONFLICTS FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM.
UM, I MEAN, THERE'S SEVEN OF US AND I MEAN, HECK, OUR MEETING SCHEDULE HAS BEEN PUT OUT A YEAR, OVER A YEAR IN ADVANCE.
AND SO TO TRY AND MOVE STUFF AROUND TO WHERE EVERYBODY IS ABLE TO BE AT EVERY SINGLE ONE, UH, I THINK LET'S GO TO VEGAS AND RIGHT.
UM, I'M JUST SAYING WHEN WE HAVE 'EM, THAT'S A LOT ENOUGH TIME.
LET'S DON'T HAVE 'EM AS A TAG ON TO AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING.
IS THERE, I I THINK THAT, UM, HAVING THEM IS VERY EFFICIENT AFTER THE END.
UH, AND I THINK STAFF WILL BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA, UM, FOR THOSE THEY CAN CONTROL SOME THINGS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA AND, UM, IS THERE, CAN WE FIND OUT THEIR FLEXIBILITY AND SOME OF THAT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S CERTAIN TIME THAT HAS TO PASS THAT THEY NEED SOME TIME IN BETWEEN THAT THEY NEED YEAH.
IF THERE'S ANY FLEXIBILITY, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A, A SPECIAL CALL BUILDING MEETING ON A THURSDAY, THAT WAS A DIFFERENT THURSDAY, THEN YEAH.
SO I SOMEHOW CATCH EVERYBODY AFTER, UM, FINDING ABOUT FALL BREAK.
SO I ASKED THEM, I MEAN, COULD YOU, INSTEAD OF, WOULD THERE BE ENOUGH TIME BETWEEN HERE AND HERE AND TO DO MOVE THAT ONE, DID IT HAVE TO BE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR Y'ALL TO THURSDAY, OCTOBER 3RD, A WEEK EARLIER? UM, AND THAT'S FINE WITH THEM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL THAT WOULD GIVE YOU, ACCORDING TO THE SCHEDULE.
SO YOU, ON THAT MONDAY, THE 30TH, YOU WOULD GET THEIR BRIEFING MATERIAL, BACKGROUND MATERIAL ON THE SEMI-FINALISTS, AS WELL AS LINKS TO THE VIDEO, UM, MEETINGS THEY DID WITH THEM.
SO YOU'D HAVE ABOUT THREE DAYS TO, UH, AND MAYBE THEY COULD DO THAT A LITTLE QUICKER, BUT I, BUT THAT'S THE DATE THEY SHOW.
IF THEY COULD BUMP IT UP, THEN YOU'D HAVE ABOUT THREE DAYS TO AT LEAST TO REVIEW THAT MATERIAL BEFORE YOU GET, IT'D BE GREAT IF WE HAD A WEEK GET TOGETHER.
LIKE IF THEY COULD GET IT TO US ON THURSDAY, THE WELL, BUT THAT ALL DEPENDS.
IF YOU PUSH THAT DATE LATER, THAT DATE BECOMES EVEN HARDER TO DO.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO ONE, ONE IS A, IT'S A SEQUENTIAL THING.
WELL, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION THAT HAVE BEEN, HAVE THE EXPERIENCE.
NOW, KEN, YOU WERE IN HR, RIGHT? FROM SALES.
I HIRED A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HIRED A LOT OF PEOPLE.
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THANK YOU.MARK, YOU'VE HIRED PEOPLE WHEN YOU WERE IN THE HEALTH INDUSTRY.
AND NELSON HAS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT PEOPLE WHO'VE HIRED PEOPLE.
I'VE NEVER HIRED ANYBODY EXCEPT CLEANING PEOPLE.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE HIRING PEOPLE BE THERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER REST OF US WHO CAN, WE CAN JUDGE PEOPLE.
WELL, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO WRITE THE ASK, ASK THE RIGHT HIRING QUESTIONS, BUT I KNOW WHAT, I GET A FEEL FOR PEOPLE REAL QUICK.
CAN YOU, SINCE NOT EVERYBODY'S HERE, AND SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN LOOK AT THEIR CALENDAR, SEND OUT, WE OBVIOUSLY ALREADY HAVE LIKE OPTION A, I GUESS OPTION B AND LET PEOPLE GIVE YOU FEEDBACK AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THOSE DATES ARE CONFLICTS FOR EVERYBODY.
IF WE CAPTURED BECAUSE THE 18TH, THAT POTENTIALLY IF SOMEBODY'S NOT THERE, THAT ONE'S A LITTLE EASIER TO DO VIA ZOOM OR SOMETHING WITH A, WITH A COMMISSIONER BECAUSE IT'S NOT MEETING AN ACTUAL CANDIDATE OR TALKING ABOUT IT.
WORST CASE, THE 18TH IS ZOOM FOR SOMEBODY.
BUT WHEN THE, WHEN YOU'RE GOING OVER CANDIDATES OR A FOLLOW UP ONE-ON-ONE UHHUH CALL WITH THE CONSULTANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY EXTENSIVE ONE.
AND THAT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO DO WITHOUT ONE PERSON THERE.
UH, AND THEN THI THIS MEETING, WHETHER IT'S THE THIRD OR THE 10TH, IS TO ME IS, WELL, ALL OF 'EM ARE, BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, HERE'S THE THREE, FOUR OR FIVE WE WANT TO ACTUALLY INTERVIEW.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PICKING THE INTERVIEW DATES, UM, THAT'S NOT REALLY SET IN STONE HERE.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN KIND OF WORK ON THAT AS, AS YOU GET FARTHER INTO THIS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE.
UM, SO YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ANY ABILITY ON THE 19TH WHEN KEN'S NOT HERE TO SHIFT THAT? I HAVEN'T ASKED THAT SPECIFICALLY.
CAN WE, CAN YOU ASK AND THEN WE JUST HAVE A PLAN, A CALENDAR A AND A CALENDAR B.
I THINK THE FIRST QUESTION, YOU KNOW, FOR CALENDAR A YEAH, I, I ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OCTOBER 3RD.
SO I GUESS HIS QUESTION MIGHT BE WE'LL SHIFT TO WHEN THOUGH THAT'S, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? MM-HMM.
SO THE THIRD IS SPRING, FALL BREAK? NO, THE ONLY ONE.
THE 10TH IS THE 10TH IS FALL BREAK.
THAT'S OUR NORMAL BRIEFING DAY WOULD BE OCTOBER 10TH.
IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE IT UP, MOVE IT WITHOUT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THAT WE DON'T TRY TO SHIFT IT LATER WHERE YOU'RE STARTING GETTING INTO INTERVIEWS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER.
THEN I THINK THAT IMPACTS, SO WE TALKED ABOUT IF WE WERE GONNA SHIFT THIS, WE TRY TO SHIFT IT TO THE WEEK BEFORE, WHICH GETS YOU TO THAT OCTOBER 3RD DATE AS A POTEN.
AGAIN, IT HAVE TO BE A SPECIAL MEETING SEPTEMBER 19TH.
UM, I KNOW KEN SAID, UM, HE GETS BACK THAT NIGHT.
SO IT WAS FRIDAY THE 20TH OF POTENTIAL DATE.
I HAVE A CONFLICT ON THE 20TH.
WHAT ABOUT TUESDAY THE 17TH? HE'S OUT, I THINK THAT WEEK.
OH, YOU'RE TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY.
SORRY, WHAT ABOUT THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY? DOES THAT MESS THEM UP? TOTALLY.
I DON'T, I DON'T, TUESDAY'S NOT GOOD FOR ME, BUT THEY'RE NOT, I, I LIKE WEDNESDAY, IF THAT WORKS.
I HAVE A TUESDAY, EVERY TUESDAY COMMITMENT.
I COULD DO WEDNESDAY MORNINGS.
I PROBABLY COULD DO WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.
I DO WEDNESDAY MORNINGS THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
IS THAT GOOD? DOES THAT PUSH THAT THAT YEAH.
THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, IS IS IT HOUR MEET? IF YOU PUSH THAT BACK TO LIKE THE 25TH, THEN ALL THIS GETS PUSHED AND YOU WON'T PROBABLY MAKE THAT DAY THEN CAN YOU? WELL, IF I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THE 19TH, YOU STILL GOT SIX OTHERS.
YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE, CAN WE DO IT WEDNESDAY INSTEAD OF THURSDAY? OR EITHER THURSDAY AFTERNOON? JUST SO IT'S A SEPARATE ITEM, NOT A TAG ON, I HATE TO SAY IT THIS WAY, BUT IT'S UP TO Y'ALL.
I THINK WE GO AHEAD AND, UH, AND PUT IT, UH, RIGHT AFTER THE, UH, INFORMATIONAL MEETING.
UH, AND THEN JUST INSTRUCT STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT, I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE LUNCH BRING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK IT'S GONNA BE BRIEF, BUT UM, AS LONG AS WE DON'T RUSH IT.
WE MIGHT TRY TO RUSH THE BRIEFING PART OF IT, RIGHT.
BUT NO, WE NEED, THIS IS IMPORTANT AND WE NEED TO UH, UH,
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NOT GET IN A HURRY.I MEAN, WE MIGHT GET THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND NOT, UH, BE ABLE TO LAND ON THE, UH, ON THE RIGHT REPLACEMENT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL.
WELL, I'M FINE AS LONG AS WE, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA RUSH THROUGH THIS.
IT'D BE CATASTROPHIC IF WE HIRED.
IT WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC IF WE RUSHED.
WELL, PEOPLE RUSHED OUT OF OTHER IMPORTANT MEETINGS.
WE ALL HAVE WHEN WE'VE GOT THINGS TO, I'M JUST SAYING, AS LONG AS IN OUR MIND WE COMMIT THAT AS MUCH OF THAT DAY AS NECESSARY TO BE HERE, DON'T PLAN SOMETHING FOR ONE O'CLOCK.
YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST COMMIT TO BEING HERE IF WE NEED TO BE, I WOULD LOVE TO BE HERE, BUT I JUST THINK TO KEEP THE PROCESS GOING, I GOT ENOUGH FAITH IN THE REST OF THE SIX THAT WELL, AND, AND YOU WOULD HAVE THE INFORMATION AND, AND YOU COULD HAVE INPUT TOO.
I WOULD THINK WE CAN CALL THEM.
YEAH, YOU COULD CONSULT, CAN TALK WITH YOU ONE ONONE ON, ON THE FRIDAY, THE DAY AFTER.
'CAUSE WE'VE HAD TO DO THAT ON OTHER THINGS WHERE IT WAS PRETTY IMPORTANT.
BUT WE DID, YOU COULDN'T MAKE THIS.
AND SO YOU COULD CALL AND YEAH.
AND FIND OUT OR HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE, OR SOMETIMES IT'S WITH KIRK, YOU KNOW, GETTING INFORMATION.
WELL, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IF, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT FOR THE EIGHT, THE TILL JULY 18TH BRIEFING, IF YOU I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT.
AS LONG AS I CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THEM YEAH.
TO PUT IN MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THE CRITERIA AND STUFF.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU BOTH OF YOU CAN GO BACK AND WATCH THE DISCUSSION AMONG THE REST OF THEM.
SO WHAT ABOUT OCTOBER? SO THEY'RE REALLY ONLY GONNA BE FIVE OF US HERE.
I THINK AS FAR AS I KNOW, RAY IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WOULD NOT BE HERE.
SO WHAT ABOUT THIS OCTOBER 3RD? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A NORMAL BRIEFING DATE.
IF WE, IF WE WANNA GET AWAY FROM TWO COMMISSIONERS NOT BEING PRESENT.
I'M GOOD WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YEAH.
I CAN PROBABLY MAKE, I CAN DO THAT.
I'LL RESCHEDULE
IS PLANNING COMMISSIONER GONNA BE, WHERE WILL WE BE? THEY WILL, THEY WILL BE MEETING, YOU'RE RIGHT.
UM, I'M SURE WE'VE GOT OTHER OPTIONS WHERE TO MEET.
WE CAN GO DOWN TO YOU MEET IN, IN THE, IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM, THE PUBLIC MEETING, OR YOU CAN MEET IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS IF YOU THINK THERE'S GONNA BE DURING THE MEETING AT EIGHT.
BUT IF THEY WEREN'T, WE COULD ALWAYS MEET IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBER.
SO IS THAT THURSDAY THE THIRD AGAIN? THAT WOULD BE A SPECIAL MEETING DAY.
AND I'M NOT GONNA WORRY ABOUT INTERVIEW DATES 'CAUSE YOU'LL ULTIMATELY PICK THOSE LATER.
COULD YOU JUST SEND AN EMAIL ABOUT THE THIRD YES.
TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMISSIONER ANDREWS IS ON BOARD FOR EVERYBODY AND EVERYONE CAN, I'LL JUST RECAP WHAT WE DISCUSSED HERE.
AND I'VE GOT A COMMITMENT I'VE ALREADY YEAH.
SO HALLOWEEN IS WHEN WE'RE STARTING, WELL
YOU'LL, YOU'LL, YOU'LL PICK THAT I THINK LATER IN THE PROCESS.
UH, I'LL RECAP THAT AND THEN I'LL, UH, SPEAK WITH, UH, BRETT BAUER, THE CONSULTANT.
ITEM TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS THEN IS THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, EXCUSE ME, GROWTH PLAN UPDATE PROPOSAL.
UM, THIS IS THE FINAL PROPOSAL, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A FIRST ROUND OF THIS, IT CAME THROUGH US, YOU ALL APPROVED IT.
A WHOLE OTHER JURISDICTIONS DID NOT.
SO THEN IT WENT BACK TO A SECOND ROUND THROUGH THE COORDINATING COMMITTEE.
UH, AND THIS IS WHAT ULTIMATELY, UH, CAME OUT OF THE COORDINATING COMMITTEE.
IT HAS BEEN, UH, SO IT'S JUST, LET'S REAL CLEAR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, THE CONSIDERATION IS THE MAP ITSELF AND THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARIES.
AND AS PART OF THE, THE PROPOSED PLAN IS ALSO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT HAS A VARIETY OF PROVISIONS WHERE WE ALL, ALL THE COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTY WOULD AGREE TO, NOBODY WOULD ANNEX OUTSIDE THEIR APPROVED BOUNDARIES.
UH, WE WOULD UPDATE THIS IN FIVE YEARS VERSUS 20 PLUS, LIKE IT DID THE LAST TIME THAT THERE WOULD, UH, BE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WE WOULD ALL MEET PERIODICALLY TO JUST TALK ABOUT OR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT ISSUES IN THE COUNTY.
IF SOMEBODY CLAIMED THERE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCE THAT NEEDED THEM TO ANNEX OUTSIDE THEIR BOUNDARIES, THEY COULD COME TO THAT COMMITTEE AND MAKE THAT APPEAL.
UM, BUT ONLY IF IT WAS RELATED TO NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, UNLESS A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED FOR SAFETY EMERGENCY PURPOSES EXISTING.
UM, SO THAT'S THE, THAT THOSE AGREEMENT, THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT COMES WITH THE MAP AND THE PROPOSED PLAN.
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SO I KNOW THE MAYOR WAS, UH, VOTED AGAINST IT WHEN IT CAME THROUGH THE COORDINATING COMMITTEE ALONG WITH A FEW OTHER FOLKS.I THINK THE MAYOR OF FAIRVIEW AND SOME THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE MUNICIPALITIES VOTED FOR.
EVERYBODY ELSE HAS VOTED FOR IT AT THIS POINT.
THE COUNTY HAS VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT.
SO WE COULD, WE COULD ENDORSE IT.
UM, OR NOT IF WE DON'T ENDORSE IT, ULTIMATELY, UH, WHAT HAPPENS IS IT GETS KICKED TO, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, PERPETRATOR.
UH, AND THEY WILL BE THE ONES THAT ULTIMATELY DECIDE, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS, UM, THE BEST PLAN, UH, FOR UM, EVERYONE, BUT IT'S A WHOLE LOT BETTER PLAN, UH, THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
THOMPSON STATION, UH, HAS SCALED BACK.
UM, SPRING HILL HAS SCALED BACK.
UH, SOME, THERE ARE STILL SOME PEOPLE IN THE SPRING HILL, UH, UGB, UH, THAT DON'T WANT OR THE PROPOSED UGB THAT DON'T WANNA BE IN THAT.
I THINK SO, BUT IT'S, UM, IT GOES BACK TO IT'S A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN IT WAS.
AND SO I KIND OF THINK THAT IT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET EVERYTHING YOU WANT.
UM, AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO KIND OF TAKE YOUR MEDICINE AND UH, AND MOVE ON.
WELL, AN ARBITRATOR COULD CHANGE SOME OF IT TOO.
AT LEAST YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, UM, SOMEBODY IN NASHVILLE, UH, IS, UH, IS GONNA DO.
IF I COULD ALSO ADD, IF IT GOES TO AN, TO AN ARBITRATION COMMITTEE, WE LOSE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AS PART OF THIS, UM, THE DISCUSSION AND THE COORDINATING COMMITTEE THAT ALL OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE COUNTY HAVE AGREED TO ENTER INTO THE LOCAL, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
AND THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF ANY KIND OF APPROVAL OF THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES, UM, IF DONE BY A, BY AN ARBITRATION PANEL BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN DONE.
UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT PART OF THE LAW.
BUT AGAIN, ALL THE INTER UM, THE ENTITIES HAVE AGREED TO THIS TO KIND OF KEEP, UH, PACKAGE 'EM TOGETHER.
I HATE TO SAY KEEP OURSELVES IN CHECK, BUT KIND OF TO KEEP OURSELVES IN CHECK.
UM, BUT, BUT BECAUSE IT, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE OF WHY THE PROCESS, IF IT GOES TO ARBITRATION MM-HMM.
'CAUSE IT'S NO LONGER AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
IT'S A DECISION MADE AT CORRECT.
THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS SEPARATE FROM THE, UM, FROM THE PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
BUT IT'S ALL IN ONE RESOLUTION.
WE'RE ALL DOING IT AS ONE RESOLUTION TO MAKE IT, UM, TO MAKE THE STATEMENT THAT WE'VE DONE IT AS PART AND COORDINATION AS MAYOR GORMAN HAS SAID.
SO IF IT WAS TWO SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS MM-HMM.
AND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT COULD BE ITS OWN.
BUT THE WAY THAT WE'VE GOT 'EM DONE, THEY'RE KIND, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY TIED TOGETHER.
BUT IT COULD BE TWO DIFFERENT, IT COULD BE OKAY.
AND I GUESS IN FULL, IN THEORY, IF IT WENT TO THE STATE AND THE STATE MM-HMM.
AND DO THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT JUST SEPARATELY AMONG EVERYBODY.
BUT IT WOULDN'T BE DIRECTLY TIED TO CORRECT.
AND WHETHER EVERYBODY WOULD AT THAT POINT, I DON'T KNOW.
AND, AND, AND I CAN SAY FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS, AND MAYOR GORMAN MAY HAVE HEARD THE SAME, I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME COORDINATION GIVEN, UM, IF IT WERE ASSIGNED BY, 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO DOES ANYONE KNOW ON THIS MAP, THE AREA THAT'S STILL IN DISPUTE FOR SPRINGFIELD? I KNOW YOU HAVE IT.
IS IT THE ENTIRE LIBRARY? I THINK IT'S THIS YEP.
B LANE DUPLEX, UM, AND THEN, UH, WEST OF LEWISBURG PIKE.
SO ROUGHLY, AND THERE, THERE ARE NEW INTERSTATE INTERCHANGES MAYBE? YES.
SO ROUGHLY A THIRD OF THE CURRENT CITY BOUNDARIES THAT ARE WITHIN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, I THINKS JUNE.
SO BASICALLY WE HAVE SPRING HILL THAT RESIDES IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
AND, AND THEIR URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS ABOUT ABOUT 50%, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS THAN WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS FOR SPRING HILL.
SO THEY'RE ASK ASKING TO GROW THEIR CITY LIMITS OR THE ABILITY TO ANNEX THEIR CITY LIMITS BY OVER 50% INSIDE OF WILLIAMS COUNTY? COUNTY.
BUT YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS, THEY'RE ALL THEIR CITY LIMITS.
SO IT'S REALLY INSIDE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, WHICH IS ALL THAT WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT IN THE LIGHT BLUE, THAT LIGHT BLUE SECTION MARK IS SMALLER THAN IT WAS, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? MM-HMM.
AND THERE WAS SOME, UH, I THINK THERE'S SOME OUT HERE.
WASN'T IT BEEN CARVED OUT AS WELL? OKAY.
SO THE, UM, I FORGET WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY NOW.
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BUT AGAIN, I THINK THEIR NEW INTERCHANGE IS UP HERE SOMEWHERE THAT THAT JUST OPENED.
CHIN LAKE IS RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S THEIR KIND OF, THEIR THINKING IS THAT THAT NEW INTERCHANGE WILL SPUR SOME SORT.
SO, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, AND KRISTEN CAN CLARIFY, AS WE ALL KNOW, BEING IN THE UGB DOESN'T MEAN YOU WILL BE ANNEXED.
THE ONLY WAY TO BE ANNEXED IS EITHER BY REQUEST OR AS PART OF A, A REFERENDUM.
AND FARMLAND CAN ONLY CONDEMNATION.
YOU CAN'T BE ANNEXED BY CONDEMNATION THOUGH.
IT'S, IT'S STILL PROPERTY OWNER REQUEST THAT LIKE A ROAD COULD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT YEAH, YOU COULD HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPING IN THE COUNTY.
SO LIKE WHAT QUALIFIES FOR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, WATER, WATER, SEWER, POWER LINES, SCHOOLS, SCHOOL DOES? I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S CLEARLY, I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY WOULD EVER, I DON'T KNOW THAT'S CLEARLY DEFINED.
YOU CAN MAKE THE HEART ATTORNEYS WON'T MAKE THE, UH, THE ARGUMENT WHICHEVER WAY THEY WANT TO.
IT SAYS YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR PERKS, CORRECT? YES.
BUT SO, UM, FARMLAND OR PROPERTY USED FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES CAN ONLY BE ANNEXED BY THE OWNER REQUEST, UM, OTHER PROPERTY BY OWNER REQUEST OR PART OF A REFERENDUM.
BUT IF IT'S FARMLAND, IT HAS TO BE OWNER REQUEST.
THEY CAN'T BE, THE CONCERN WOULD BE IS IF YOU SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'LL ONLY BE ANNEXED IF YOU, UH, WANT TO BE ANNEXED FOR A REFERENDUM.
WELL, LET'S SAY THERE'S SEVEN PROPERTIES.
SIX ONE IN, I DON'T, WELL I DO A REFERENDUM THAT INCLUDES ME AND I'M GONNA LOSE SIX TO ONE.
SO THAT'S THE WAY THAT YOU COULD GET INVOLUNTARILY DRAGGED IN THE FIRE REFERENDUM.
BUT IF IT'S AGRICULTURAL LAND, EVEN MY ONE, I WOULD HAVE TO GIVE MY CONSENT.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE EXTRA PROTECTION.
BUT YOU KNOW, ON THE FLIP SIDE, AND I AGREE, PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE ANNEXED UNLESS THEY WANT TO BE.
BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BENEFITING FROM ALL THOSE CITY SERVICES RIGHT.
ON THEIR DOORSTEP AND NOT PAYING ANY CITY TAXES.
AND YOU WONDER WHAT IS THEIR REASON FOR NOT WANTING TO BE ANNEXED? IS IT TO KEEP THEIR PASTORAL LAND OR IS IT TO KEEP THEIR TAXES DOWN? AND IT'S, IF I WERE IN THE CITY AND THEY WERE COMING AND USING THE LIBRARY AND THEY WERE DOING ALL THIS USING OUR PARKS AND THINGS, I WOULD THINK I OUGHT TO HAVE SOME SAY IN WHERE MY BOUNDARIES ARE GOING.
AND I'VE SAT ON ONE OF THESE COMMITTEES THREE YEARS, LONGEST THREE YEARS OF MY LIFE GOING TO THOSE MEETINGS.
NOBODY WAS HAPPY WHEN IT WAS FINISHED.
BUT IT, AND NOBODY'S GONNA EVER BE COMPLETELY HAPPY.
BUT IF ALL THE UNITS, MUNICIPALITIES, AND THE COUNTY, 'CAUSE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REPRESENT THOSE PEOPLE.
IF THEY'RE ALL ON BOARD, I'M NOT GONNA FIGHT SPRING HILL'S BATTLE FOR 'EM.
I, I WORK FOR BRENTWOOD, YOU KNOW, LET THEM WORK ON THEIR OWN SITUATION DOWN THERE IS THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.
AND WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS NOT ALL MUNICIPAL SERVICES ARE CREATED EQUAL.
AND UH, SO, BUT AGAIN, I WORK FOR THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD, NOT THE CITY OF SPRINGDALE.
I THINK THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS WRONG IN SPRINGDALE.
AND THAT'S PART OF, UM, UM, THE RATIONALE.
UM, ARE THEY ABLE TO ADEQUATELY PROVIDE SERVICES? WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET TO SAY WHETHER THEY DO OR NOT ANY MORE THAN WE CAN TELL FRANKLIN WHAT TO DO.
OR PEOPLE THAT THINK OUR ONE ACRE DENSITY IS RIDICULOUS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT WE WOULD NEVER CHANGE IT 'CAUSE WE LIKE IT, IT SUITS HOW WE WANT TO LIVE.
BUT YOU CAN ONLY TAKE ON ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY AND DIRECT THEIR, UH, CHOICES FOR THEIR CITIZENS IF YOU LIVE THERE, I THINK OR YOU'RE A COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE OR A STATE REPRESENTATIVE OR WHAT.
THE CITY COMMISSIONER CAN'T DO THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY.
UH, A COUPLE QUICK ITEMS. I KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT JUST THE FOURTH TOMORROW, CHARLES, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S PLANNING TO ATTEND.
HOPEFULLY YOU'VE GOT YOUR PARKING PASSES OR WHATEVER YOU NEED FROM CHARLES.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE DAYS WHERE IT'S A HIT AND MISS SHOWER HOPEFULLY KIND OF DYING OUT AS YOU GET INTO THE EVENING.
BUT THERE MAY BE A THUNDERSTORM IN THE AFTERNOON OR WHATEVER.
BUT WE WILL, WE WILL ONLY CANCEL IF, UH, LIGHTNING NEAR THE TIME OF EVERYTHING STARTING.
AND IF IT'S JUST A POP-UP STORM THAT'S GONNA PASS THROUGH, YOU MAY JUST DELAY STUFF AND THEN COME BACK TO IT.
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SUPPOSED TO BE MORE RAIN.THAT WOULD BE OUR RAIN DAY WHERE WE WOULD GENERALLY JUST DO FIREWORKS ONLY ON FRIDAY NIGHT WOULD BE THE, UM,
ONE, TWO THINGS, TODD AND THEM FOUND A D UH, AVOID OR ROTTED OUT DRAINAGE PIPE YESTERDAY OUT, UH, ON THE, MORE ON THE EASTERN END OF IT.
SO PROBABLY NEXT TUESDAY HE'S PROJECTING THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO CLOSE THE ROAD, CUT THAT OUT AND, AND REPLACE THE PIPE ON THERE.
AND THEN I HAD, UH, COMMISSIONER SPEARS WAS ASKING ABOUT THE FOLLOW UP FROM THE DELAY OF THE CONSIDERATION SULLIVAN, AND WE'VE GOT GPS HERE ON THE 18TH, BUT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE, WE'D HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU ALL WANT OR FORESEE IN TERMS OF THE NEXT STEP AS FAR AS GOING BACK TO MEETINGS OR WHATEVER.
WE'LL NEED TO NEGOTIATE THAT WITH SULLIVAN AND YOU'LL HAVE TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR AGREEMENT FOR THE ADDED COSTS FOR THEM TO COME AND DO WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANNA DO.
SO WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IN THEORY, WHAT THAT SCOPE IS.
UH, SO IF WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION, WHETHER THAT'S THE 18TH OR THE, THE FOLLOWING ONE, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE AN AGREE, WE NEED TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM BEFORE WE CAN EVEN HAVE HI DICKEY COME BACK AND KIND OF TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT TYPE B.
YEAH, I MEAN, DEPENDING ON WHAT WHICH, YEAH.
I MEAN HIS CONTRACT IS ENDED, SO IF YOU WANT HIM TO COME PRESENT TO YOU AND PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITY, HE'S GONNA WANT TO PAY FOR THAT.
SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THINK THEY'RE STILL INVOLVED.
THEY THINK, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
ONE NEIGHBOR SAID TO ME, WELL, I LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OF THESE MEETINGS AND, AND GETTING SULLIVAN'S INPUT.
AND I SAID, WELL, WE AREN'T THEN WE'RE NOT PAYING THEM TO WORKFORCE ANYMORE.
WELL, YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO DO AN AMENDMENT, ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS.
JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT'LL BE UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE WANTING EXACTLY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE MEETING WITH YOU ALL AND THEN A COUPLE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND THEN WHAT DO YOU WANT THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO BE? I MEAN, IS IT PRESENTING WHAT HE ALREADY HAS PREPARED OR DOES HE HAVE TO PREPARE SOMETHING MORE? THAT'S, THAT'S THE KIND OF DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE TO KIND OF ANOTHER QUICK GAUGE THAT, AND MAYBE YOU CAN'T ANSWER TODAY, THIS, UH, STORAGE TANK GOING MAYBE HAVE THEY FIGURED OUT IF IT'S ENCROACHING INTO THE DOG DOG PARK? COMPLETELY.
HAVE, HAVE THEY GOTTEN ANY FURTHER INFORMATION ON THAT? UH, WELL, BASED UPON WHAT YOU ALL SAID, AS FAR AS THAT LOWER SECTION YEAH, IT WILL, IT WILL COMPLETELY IT.
ANY MOVEMENT IN THAT DIRECTION? WELL, THEY'RE DOING, THEY'VE DONE SOME GEOTECHNICAL STUFF AND ALL THAT, SO YEAH, THEY'RE JUST CONTINUING ALONG THAT STRETCH.
EARLIER IN OUR MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THE CALENDAR BEING ESTABLISHED IN ADVANCE, WELL IN ADVANCE SO THAT WE CAN PLAN OUR LIVES AROUND THAT AND EVERYBODY ELSE CAN TOO.
UM, WHEN DOES THE 2025 MEETING SCHEDULE COME OUT? IS IT NORMALLY AT THE END OF THE YEAR? WE USUALLY DO IT AROUND, I MEAN, WE CAN PREPARE IT EARLIER 'CAUSE IT'S PRETTY WELL SET.
USUALLY HAVE YOU ADOPT IT LIKE IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER, BUT WE CAN GET HOW DRAFT IT, COULD WE GET THAT FORWARD A LITTLE BIT? SO THAT'S FINE.
UM, WE'RE LIKE AN 18 MONTH PLANNING PRE-PLANNING SO THAT THOSE JANUARY DATES COULD BE ESTABLISHED JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, YOU KNOW, WELL IN ADVANCE OF ONE MONTH AHEAD OF TIME.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
AND THEN DO WE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? WE DO THAT ALREADY.
WELL, YOU DON'T, WE DON'T PREPARE FOR YOUR, WE HAVE THE YEAR SCHEDULE OF OUR MEETINGS.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T USUALLY GET ESTABLISHED UNTIL, WE DON'T USUALLY ADOPT IT UNTIL NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.
SO JUST GIVING IT LIKE ANOTHER SIX MONTH BUFFER WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE THEN WE CAN PLAN, WE CAN PLAN FOR JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE INSTEAD OF ONE MONTH IN ADVANCE ON OUR PERSONAL CALENDARS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ALL THAT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE THE SECOND, FOURTH MONDAY AND THURSDAYS BEFORE, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT JUST TO HAVE IT ALL COMPILED FOR THE YEAR AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN TOTALLY OFF SUBJECT, BUT, UM, AMERICA'S 250TH ANNIVERSARY IS COMING UP IN TWO YEARS, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE CITY HAD ANY PLANS TO CELEBRATE ANYTHING, UM, IN A SPECIFIC WAY.
I'M SURE THE HISTORIC BOARD WILL TAKE A LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING THERE.
SO MAYBE THE CITY AND THE HISTORIC BOARD COULD WORK TOGETHER, BUT WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT WE DID THE, UH, JOHNSON, YOU WANNA PLAN A PARTY CENTENNIAL FOR TENNESSEE.
DO YOU WANNA PLAN A PARTY? HUH? DO YOU WANNA PLAN A PARTY? UH, I DON'T
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE THAT WILL PROBABLY, I'M SURE THEY'LL DO SOMETHING, SO.
THANK YOU ALL FOR A LITTLE LONGER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, BUT GOOD DISCUSSION.