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WE'LL GET GOING. 
          [ Brentwood City Commission Briefing June 20, 2024 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the June 24th Agenda, the below items will be discussed:  Belle Rive Open Space in relation to the Alan West Property Discussion on preferred City Manager Executive Recruitment firm Direction regarding TDOT grant application for portion of Franklin Road trail between Concord and Fountainhead This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
UM, REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GET INTO THE AGENDA, I WAS GONNA ASK SARAH CATHERINE TO INTRODUCE JORDAN, OUR NEW, UH, STAFF ENGINEER. 
          HEY EVERYBODY. 
          UH, THIS IS JORDAN COLE. 
          HE JUST STARTED WITH US ON LAST MONDAY. 
          VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM. 
          UM, HE IS A ENGINEER INTERN. 
          HE'LL BE HELPING ME OUT WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS AND STORMWATER PROGRAM. 
          VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM. 
          HE CAME FROM FORT MYERS, FLORIDA AND HE JUST MOVED HERE LAST WEEK. 
          SO VERY HAPPY. 
          WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HE ACTUALLY WORE A FLORIDA STATE SHIRT YESTERDAY. 
          YES. 
          HE 10 TENNESSEE, HAWAII. 
          THAT IS BRAVE. 
          I HAD TO HIDE MY CASE, SO, WELL, KIRK REMINDED HIM HE WAS STILL ON PROBATION. 
           MYERS IS CLOSER TO GAINESVILLE THAN IT IS TO TALLAHASSEE. 
          I KNOW. 
          I, I, UH, BUT SO SARAH AS AN ENGINEERING INTERN, BUT HE IS NOT AN INTERN. 
          HE IS A FULL-TIME. 
          RIGHT. 
          STAFF ENGINEER. 
          THAT'S A TITLE IN THE ENGINEERING WORLD. 
          THAT'S HIS TRAINING YET NOT A FULL PE RIGHT. 
          IS THAT WHERE WE'RE RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO ANYWAY, GLAD TO HAVE HIM. 
          UH, IT'S A BIG HELP TO SARAH CATHERINE AND ALL THAT SHE DOES OUTSIDE OF SOME OF THE CAPITAL STUFF, PLUS SOME OF THE CAPITAL STUFF. 
          IT WASN'T THAT THOUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MONDAY NIGHT, WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING THAT IF UT DOESN'T WIN IT IN TWO GAMES, THAT YOU'LL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE THIRD GAME ON MONDAY NIGHT, UH, AT 7:00 PM SO MAYBE THAT'LL GET YOU A LITTLE QUICKLY. 
          I DUNNO. 
          UM, OR IF YOU WANT US TO PULL IT A SIDE SCREEN SOMEWHERE ON THIS SIDE, YOU COULD FIGURE OUT THAT FROM THE TECH SIDE OF THINGS. 
          BUT WE HAVE, UH, OATH OF OFFICE FOR A COUPLE POLICE OFFICERS IS THE ONLY, UM, EARLY THING, NO EARLY MEETINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          I HAVE THE FINAL THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE BUDGET TAX RATE AND CIP, UM, GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND A LOT OF STUFF WE ALWAYS HAVE KIND OF AT THE, THAT LAST MEETING IN JUNE, UH, RELATED TO, UM, BUDGET AND SOME OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 
          SO, UM, FIRST ITEM ON CONSENT IS THE SECOND READING OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WE WENT OVER IN DETAIL LAST TIME. 
          SO I WON'T DO THAT UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. 
          UH, ITEM TWO IS ADOPTION OF THE CIP ITSELF. 
          THE FIVE YEAR CIP WE'VE HAD, REALLY THE ONLY COMMENTS I THINK WE'VE HAD IN HERE IS RELATED TO OLD SMYRNA ROAD AND, AND AGAIN, THERE'S MONEY IN THERE. 
          Y'ALL WILL DECIDE HOW THAT GETS SPENT AND WHEN IT GETS SPENT, THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING KNOWING THAT YOU'RE ADOPTING A FIVE YEAR PLAN. 
          THAT'S REALLY A ONE YEAR PLAN AND YOU CAN UPDATE IT BASED UPON WHERE YOU SIT, UH, NEXT SPRING IN TERMS OF MOVING MONEY AROUND OR ADDING MONEY TO PROJECTS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 
          APPROVING THIS DOESN'T COMMIT CONTRACTS TO ANYTHING, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. 
          SO, UH, THREE IS THE ADOPTION OF THE CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, AGAIN, WE WENT OVER THAT, UH, IN DETAIL BACK IN MAY, BUT JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZE AGAIN WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THAT. 
          UM, AS I'M LOOKING ON PAGE 33 OF THE, UM, UH, AGENDA PACKET THERE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO WE'RE BREAKING THE, WHAT WAS THE POLICE AND FIRE COMBINED PAY PLAN INTO TWO SEPARATE ONES. 
          ONE FOR POLICE AND ONE FOR FIRE. 
          AND THAT JUST ALLOWS US A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO DO SOME THINGS IN ONE THAT DOESN'T CARRY OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE, UH, THE BUDGET INCLUDES A 4% MARKET ADJUSTMENT. 
          SO THAT MEANS ALL PAY RANGES, MINIMUMS AND MAXIMUMS MOVE 4% AND IN A 4% ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          UM, ADJUSTMENT FOR ALL EMPLOYEES REGARDLESS OF THEIR DATE OF HIRE, JUST 'CAUSE THEY MOVE WITH THE RANGES. 
          UH, THEN THERE'S THE 2% MERIT POOL OF MONEY THAT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED, UH, ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WILL HAVE THAT POT OF MONEY TO ALLOCATE TO THEIR EMPLOYEES, UH, BASED UPON PERFORMANCE EVALUATION SCORES. 
          UM, WE ARE ELIMINATING THE 18 MONTH, UH, STEP ADJUSTMENT FOR NEW POLICE OFFICERS AND RECRUITS AND ROLLING THAT INTO THE BASE PAY. 
          SO WE'RE ABLE TO ADJUST THE BASE PAY FOR NEW POLICE OFFICERS AND RECRUITS UP BY THAT 5% IN ADDITION TO THE 4% MARKET ADJUSTMENT. 
          AND THAT KIND OF KEEPS US IN LINE OR A LITTLE BIT ABOVE SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING, UH, COMPETITORS. 
          UM, RECLASSIFICATION OF FOUR POSITIONS, UH, A LIBRARY TECH THREE, WHICH IS REALLY A SUPERVISOR TODAY. 
          WE'RE JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT. 
          AND, AND WITH THE LIBRARY TECHNICAL SUPERVISOR JOB TITLE AND MOVING IT UP ONE PAY GRADE, WE'RE TAKING A VACANT, UH, MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN POSITION IN PUBLIC WORKS AND RECLASSIFYING IT AS A FIELD SUPERVISOR. 
          AND THEN THE GIS COORDINATOR AND THE ASSISTANT 
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FINANCE DIRECTOR ARE JUST MOVING UP INTO PAY, UH, PLAN BASED UPON, UH, MARKET LOOK AT THINGS. 
          UH, ONE ADDITIONAL POSITION IN THE, UH, GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE COORDINATOR, WHICH IS THE, UH, BRENT'S POSITION COMING ONTO THE CITY OFF CONTRACT. 
          THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL POSITION WE DIDN'T NOTE HERE THAT IT'S IN THE WATER SEWER FUND WITH A, A UTILITY INSPECTOR. 
          AND THEN WE JUST GOT SOME TITLE 40 TITLE CHANGES ON A FEW POSITIONS. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT'S PLANNED THERE. 
          CONSISTENT, I THINK WITH WHAT WE COMMUNICATED DURING THE MAY MEETING. 
          ITEM FOUR IS JUST FOUR. 
          QUICK, QUICK QUESTION ON THE LAST ITEM. 
          UM, WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES WE'RE MAKING THERE, UM, IF, IF THIS PASSES ON MONDAY AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THE CONSENT AGENDA SEEMS PRETTY LIKELY, DO WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING THIS TO THE STAFF AND IN PARTICULAR WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, BREAKING IT OFF INTO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES? YEAH. 
          UM, SO THE IMPLEMENTATION WILL BE TRULY, IT BEGINS TUESDAY MORNING IMPROVEMENT MONDAY NIGHT WITH THE, UH, THE ALLOCATION OF THE PAY RAISES AND STUFF. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE COMMUNICATION AND THE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE OF THINGS, I, I HONESTLY HAVE NOT DISCUSSED WITH THE POLICE EXACTLY HOW THAT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED. 
          SO WE PROBABLY DO NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT AND JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT SAYS HEY, TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND, AND HAVE A, A, A PROBLEM. 
          JUST IT DOESN'T NEED COMMUNICATED CAREFULLY. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, I MEAN, AND WE COMMUNICATED IT IN A, UH, ALL EMPLOYEE ONLINE MEETING THAT I DO QUARTERLY BACK IN MAY. 
          NOW, NOT EVERYBODY JOINS THAT  FAIR ENOUGH. 
          SURPRISINGLY. 
          I KNOW, BUT , BUT IT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM AND ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE FULLY AWARE. 
          AND MY ASSUMPTION IS, IS IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED DOWN, BUT I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T ASSUME THAT. 
          WELL, AND IF ANYONE'S ON THE MEETING IN MAY, SHOULD HARNESS THE RUMOR MAIL EFFECTIVELY TO  TO GET THE ROOM. 
          SO GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, FOUR IS ADOPTION OF THE NON-ROUTINE PLANS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WENT OVER THOSE BY DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT IN MAY. 
          WE JUST CONSOLIDATED THEM INTO ONE RESOLUTION FOR YOUR FORMAL ADOPTION OF THOSE. 
          I LOVE THAT WE DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          A LITTLE EASIER FOR Y'ALL TO AT LEAST KEEP TRACK OF 'EM THAT WAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT'S ALL THE BUDGET RELATED ONES I THINK IN TERMS OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          UH, FIVE IS A ALTERATION TO THE OSRP DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE ROSEBROOK SUBDIVISION. 
          ROB, I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ARE ALL FAIRLY MINOR AND WENT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, WENT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S PRETTY SMALL SHIFTS IN LOT LINES AND SECTION LINES. 
          UM, THE OPEN SPACE IS AFFECTED JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO IT, IT DECREASES THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE FROM 32.01 ACRES, UM, TO 31.97 ACRES. 
          SO IT'S A REALLY SMALL CHANGE IN OPEN SPACE, WHICH REQUIRES IT TO GO BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, IF Y'ALL WERE INTERESTED, WE COULD PICK OUT THE LOTS THERE OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, AND THIS IS THE SECTION? NO, THAT'S JUST FINISHING UP. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? OR IS IT THE NEWER SECTION? UM, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE, THE NEWER SECTIONS IN THAT OR IS IT, IS THIS ONE? IT'S ALREADY, IT'S FINISHING UP. 
          IT'S FINISHING UP, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL AS THEY FINISH THAT, THAT THERE'S A LITTLE SHIFT OF A LOT LINE HERE OR THERE OR THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          SO PRETTY MINOR. 
          I THINK IT WENT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION ON THEIR, ON CONSENT AGENDA. 
          YEAH, IT WAS OKAY THROUGH HERE. 
          ITEM SIX, UH, IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE LIBRARY POLICY MANUAL REGARDING, UH, NON-RESIDENT FEES. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, WHATEVER A HUNDRED PERCENT AGO. 
          DISCUSSED HAVING IT ON, UH, THIS AGENDA. 
          THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS SIMPLY WE ARE PUTTING THE FEE AMOUNTS INTO THE POLICY, WHICH I THINK AS I UNDERSTAND IT WAS A REQUEST OF THE LIBRARY BOARD. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT STAFF HAD REQUESTED THE LIBRARY BOARD CONSIDER THAT. 
          UM, PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE STATED SPECIFICALLY IN THE POLICY, WE TOOK IT OUT IN 2015 WITH THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD JUST, THE FEE WOULD BE BASED ON LANGUAGE AND THE CITY COMMISSION COULD ADOPT SOMETHING BASED ON THE LANGUAGE, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. 
          THE PER CAPITA AMOUNT THAT WE SPEND ON THE LIBRARY. 
          WELL, OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND. 
          IT NEVER CHANGED AFTER 2015. 
          AND MY PERSONAL BELIEF IS IF IT'S THERE STARING AT US EVERY YEAR WHEN WE REVIEW THE POLICY MANUAL, WE HAVE A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT IT AND DO SOMETHING IF WE STICK OUT A LITTLE MORE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A FAIR POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          I WAS WONDERING WHY WE HAD TO HARD CODE IT, BUT THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO THIS IS GOING FOR, UM, WILLIAMSON COUNTY RESIDENCE OUTSIDE OF BRENTWOOD 50 TO 75 AND OUTSIDE OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY, 65 TO ONE 30. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND THE REQUEST WAS THAT THIS GO INTO EFFECT, UM, SEPTEMBER 3RD, I THINK. 
          YES. 
          SO WE GET THROUGH SUMMER READING AND ALL THE ONGOING PROGRAMS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
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OKAY. 
          UM, ITEM SEVEN IS, UH, ANOTHER ITEM WE DO AT THE END OF EACH YEAR WHERE WE HAVE OUR, OUR, WHAT WE CALL OUR OVER 25,000 LIST, WHICH IS SMALLER SCALE PURCHASES THAT INDIVIDUALLY DON'T EXCEED 25,000, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR COULD EXCEED, UH, 25,000 AND LIKE ITEMS, LANDSCAPING SUPPLIES, BOOKS AT THE LIBRARY. 
          WHERE'S DUSTIN? I KNOW Y'ALL, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY BUY 25,000 AT ONE TIME, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME YOU'LL SPEND MORE THAN 25,000 WITH A CERTAIN PUBLISHER OR SUPPLIER. 
          SO WE HAVE THOSE KIND OF COMBINED AND IT EASES OUR PURCHASING, BUT AT THE END OF EACH YEAR WE KIND OF GO BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT DID WE ESTIMATE IN THAT LIST? AND DID WE MEET IT OR STAY UNDER IT OR DID WE GO OVER IT TO THE EXTENT WE GO OVER IT, UH, WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU TO KIND OF RECONCILE THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          SO WE'VE GOT I THINK, FIVE VENDORS ON THAT LIST WHERE THEY WERE ON THE LIST, BUT WE EXCEEDED THE AMOUNT OF WHAT WE SPENT WITH THEM FROM WHAT WAS ON THAT LIST. 
          SOME OF THEM ARE VEHICLE REPAIR TYPE THINGS, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, UNANTICIPATED. 
          UM, AND SOME ARE SOME LANDSCAPING SUPPLY. 
          I'M, I'M ON PAGE 1 0 2 THERE OF YOUR PACKET. 
          GOT THE BULLET LIST THERE. 
          MOODY'S TIRE AND AUTO SAFE INDUSTRIES, WHICH IS A PPA FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          PPEI THINK SOME OF THAT IS RELATED TO WHAT WAS IN THE BUDGET AMENDMENT WHERE WE ORDERED LAST YEAR, THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GET IT, IT CAME IN THIS YEAR. 
          SO IT KICKED US OVER, UH, THE BUDGET NUMBER THERE. 
          SOME LANDSCAPING SUPPLIES, UH, WATER, SEWER GRINDER, PUMP SUPPLIES, AND THEN OUR, WHAT WE SPEND DOWN AT THE SOLID WASTE, UH, OF THINGS THERE. 
          SO THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT WERE ON OUR LIST, BUT WE EXCEEDED THAT. 
          AND THEN BELOW THAT ARE FIVE ONE, I THINK FIVE ITEMS WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE 'EM ON THE LIST 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GONNA REACH 25,000, BUT WE DID. 
          SO WE'RE ADDING THEM TO THE LIST HERE. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, JUST SOME CLEANUP INTO THIS PURCHASING THING. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, USUALLY YOU'D HAVE NEXT YEAR'S OVER 25,000 LIST ON THIS AGENDA. 
          ALSO, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ASSESSING THAT AND TRYING TO, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO COMPLETELY GET RID OF IT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S A MUCH SMALLER LIST. 
          SO YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE A REVISED LIST FOR 20, FISCAL 25 AND IN ONE OF YEAR JULY MEETINGS. 
          BUT HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE A, A SMALLER VERSION OF THAT SINCE WE'VE INCREASED THE, MY CONTRACTING AUTHORITY TO 25,000. 
          THERE'S FEWER AND FEWER THINGS THAT WE THINK NEED TO REALLY BE ON THAT LIST. 
          SO, UH, IF NO QUESTIONS THERE, THEN ITEM EIGHT IS APPROVAL TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE FOR THE START NEW POSITION AT THE SERVICE CENTER, WHICH IS BRENT'S POSITION AS A MAINTENANCE TRUCK THAT'S IN THE BUDGET. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR CHALLENGES WITH, UM, PURCHASING VEHICLES, I THINK JAY FOUND ONE STATE CONTRACT THAT SAID THAT WE COULD ORDER AND IT'D BE THREE TO SIX MONTHS. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD GOOD EXPERIENCE THERE. 
          SO HE'S FOUND ONE LOCAL DEALER FOR LESS THAN STATE CONTRACT. 
          UM, BUT THEY WOULDN'T TAKE A LETTER OF COMMITMENT. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO NOT WITHOUT A DEPOSIT . 
          YEAH, WE'RE GONNA PUT A DEPOSIT DOWN. 
          I DUNNO IF YOU CHECKED LATELY. 
          IS IT STILL THERE? SO IT WAS THERE AS OF TUESDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF YOU APPROVED MONDAY, WE WOULD PURCHASE WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE. 
          WHAT WE'RE ASKING THOUGH IS IF FOR SOME REASON THAT TRUCK IS GONE ON TUESDAY MORNING, THAT THIS AUTHORITY WOULD ALLOW US TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR UP TO $50,000 IF WE FIND ANOTHER ONE THAT MEETS OUR NEEDS IN, IN THAT SAME FASHION. 
          AND THERE IS ONE MORE THAT'S SIMILAR, NOT QUITE AS WELL OUTFITTED, UM, FOR OUR NEEDS. 
          AND IT'S SIMILARLY PRICED. 
          SO WE HAVE THE EXPECTATION THAT WE, WE COULD PROBABLY FIND ANOTHER TRUCK ON THAT LOT, UM, FROM LESS THAN 50,000. 
          BUT NORMALLY WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE SPECIFIC ON THE VEHICLE HERE WE'RE SAYING, WELL, HERE'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO, BUT IT MAY NOT BE THERE. 
          SO WE'RE JUST ASKING YOUR KIND OF FUNDING AUTHORITY UP TO THAT 50,000 NUMBER. 
          I YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, OUTTA CURIOSITY. 
          I I, I TOTALLY GET, AND IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO SAY YOU WOULDN'T, YOU WOULDN'T HOLD A VEHICLE WITHOUT DEPOSIT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, DEPOSITS ARE REFUNDABLE. 
          MEANS THAT I, I DON'T, I'M NOT AWARE OF MANY, IF ANY DEALERSHIPS THAT DON'T REFUND DEPOSITS IF SOMETHING CHANGES, ESPECIALLY LIKE THIS. 
          I BROUGHT THAT TO THEIR ATTENTION. 
          I SAID IT, IT HAS TO BE REFUNDABLE. 
          AND HE SAID, WELL NO, THAT'S THE POINT OF THE, THE DEPOSIT. 
          SO REALLY? YES. 
          SO, SO, OKAY. 
          SO THEY SPECIFICALLY, 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA SAY A REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          WE WOULD'VE DONE THAT IF IT WAS REFUNDABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO LITERALLY THEY REFUSED TO DO A REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND, AND THEY KNEW THAT, YOU KNOW, I TOLD 'EM, I SAID, OUR CITY COMMISSION DOESN'T TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, DECLINE STAFF'S REQUEST TO, TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE. 
          THIS, THIS IS MOST LIKELY GONNA HAPPEN, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT. 
          AND UM, THEY SAID, THAT'S INTERESTING. 
          AND I, I GUESS BECAUSE THE F1 FIFTIES TURNOVER PRETTY WELL ON THEIR LOTS. 
          WELL, 
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THAT, THAT'S WHY A REFUNDABLE ISN'T A PROBLEM. 
          NOT WHY YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT REFUNDABLE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA SELL IT ANYWAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ONLY PEOPLE I BUMP THROUGH INTO THAT WILL DO A NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT BECAUSE WHEN SOMEBODY ORDERS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT MARKETABLE, IF THEY DON'T BUY IT, YOU KNOW, SO, SO, SO HARD TO SELL IS WHY YOU GET A NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT IF YOU EVER DO. 
          AND I SAID, AND MOST WORDS I'M FAMILIAR WITH DON'T DO NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSITS JUST AS A, AS A BUSINESS PRACTICE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND PERHAPS INTERESTING THIS, UH, SALES PERSON TALKED TO THE WRONG MANAGER THAT DAY, BUT THAT WAS A REPLY THAT HE BROUGHT BACK TO ME. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          SO I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH THIS PARTICULAR STORE, BUT THAT, BUT HOPEFULLY THE TRANSACTION GOES WELL. 
          BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ODD, THAT'S AN ODD POLICY IN MY, IN MY EXPERIENCE. 
          AND THEN THE LAST SEVERAL WE'VE DONE, WHEN WE FOUND THIS TYPE OF SITUATION, THE VENDOR WOULD TAKE A, UM, A LETTER OF COMMITMENT, BUT THAT LETTER ALWAYS INCLUDES THE CAVEAT THAT SUBJECT TO CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL. 
          BUT THEY HAVE HELD IT ON THAT, BUT THIS ONE WOULDN'T DO THAT EITHER. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND FLEXIBILITY ON THAT. 
          UH, THEN IN THE OLD BUSINESS WHERE WE GET INTO THE BUDGET STUFF, SO THIS OLD BUSINESS ONE IS THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL 25 BUDGET. 
          I DUNNO IF WE HAVE ANY NOW. 
          UM, SO YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS WHERE THE READING WHERE WE HAVE THE SERIES OF AMENDMENTS TO ALLOCATE MONEY TO THE DIFFERENT GROUPS. 
          AND YOUR ALL'S DISCUSSION SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO WAS INSTEAD OF KIND OF GR SCHOOLS WOULD STILL KIND OF BE GROUPED TOGETHER UNDER ONE MOTION, BUT FOR ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES, THERE WAS A DESIRE TO DEAL WITH THEM SEPARATELY, INDIVIDUALLY. 
          QUICK QUESTION BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, THAT CAUGHT MY EYE. 
          THAT DIDN'T CATCH MY EYE BEFORE THAT. 
          I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT ON PAGE 1 44 UNDER THE LIBRARY STUFF, JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT NON-CAPITAL, WHAT THE, IT'S KIND OF A BIG POPUP FROM THE 5,000 TO THE 15,000. 
          I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. 
          THAT BOOKIE MONSTER OR SOMETHING ELSE. 
          JUST FIND WHAT TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF 1 44 MACHINE MACHINERY EQUIPMENT, NON-CAPITAL. 
          I DON'T, WE HAVE, UH, THAT'S NOT THE CHARLIE. 
          THEY TAKE THAT OUT ALREADY. 
          REMEMBER THEY HAD A CHARLIE KITCHEN. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IT IS. 
          YEAH, IT WAS ONE TIME. 
          THAT WOULD BE IT. 
          WE WEREN'T GONNA TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET. 
          WE WERE JUST NOT GONNA PURCHASE IT WOULD BE, MY GUESS IS THAT KITCHEN CHART ACTUALLY THAT THAT IS THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK IT WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA TRY AND GET THE FRENCH TO FUND IT, BUT IT WAS, IT STILL THAT MONEY STILL REMAINS IN THE BUDGET, BUT THE FRENCH WEREN'T GONNA FUND AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE COMMITTED THE FUNDING. 
          I THEY HAVE. 
          THEY HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE KNOW ON THAT HAS LIKE FIRE MARSHAL APPROVED, LIKE VENTILATION OR SOMETHING? LET ME REVISE WHAT I JUST SAID. 
          BECAUSE THEY HAD VERBALLY COMMITTED TO FUNDING IT IN THE LAST EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING THAT THEY HAD. 
          THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO WAIT AND GET MORE INFORMATION BEFORE THEY DO THE FORMAL APPROVAL. 
          SO FAR IT'S PROCEEDING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE LEAVING IT IN THE BUDGET. 
          BUT FRIENDS THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA APPROVE IT. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          AND SOME MONEY WON'T BE SPENT IF WE, IF WE DON'T DO IT HERE. 
          AND ALONG THOSE LINES, HAVE THEY MADE SURE THAT FIRE MARSHAL OR WHATEVER THERE'S VENTILATION IF THEY BRING IN SOME BIG COOKING KITCHEN THING? THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT, UH, JEFF PENDER WHO WAS IN HERE EARLIER, UM, HE AND I HAD THIS HAD DISCUSSION THIS WEEK. 
          AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO OPEN FLAME MM-HMM. 
          , WE THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE OKAY AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE IN THE CRAFT AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S A HARD SURFACE FLOOR. 
          THERE ARE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT WE WANTED ANSWER WITH REGARD TO THAT, BUT WE DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU DON'T NEED A COMMERCIAL HOOD OR ANYTHING. 
          'CAUSE THEY BRING IT IN SCHOOLS AND THINGS AND THEY'LL USE IT, YOU KNOW, JUST IN THE CAFETERIA. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND NOT, UH, UNDERNEATH THE HOOD, WHERE ARE THEY STORING THIS THING? UM, LIKELY BACK IN THE CRAFT AREA, THE STAFF STORAGE AREA. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE DESIGNATED A SPACE FOR IT SPECIFICALLY TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          HAVE WE LOOKED AT RENTING ONE FIRST? DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN RENT ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION, BUT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          I DON'T MIND LOOKING INTO THAT. 
          JUST TO SEE BEFORE TO TRY IT OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          TO TRY IT OUT AND SEE WHAT, HOW, LIKE THE PATRON RESPONSE IS TO MAKE SURE YOU KIND OF GET, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION, YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT OUT OF IT. 
          YOU MAY DISCOVER SOMETHING ELSE. 
          UM, THAT'S A BETTER OPTION. 
          AND, AND THE FRENCH DID ASK, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMMING WISE, ARE WE SURE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE IT FULLY? AND, UH, MARY CATHERINE RUCKER HAS, I BELIEVE TWO PER MONTH, UH, CLASSES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE PROGRAMMED. 
          UM, BUT I JUST WANTED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, SO, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, UM, THERE'LL BE A, A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS NEEDED. 
          ONE WOULD BE CLARIFYING 
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OR SPECIFYING, I GUESS IS THE RIGHT WORD, THE ALLOCATION TO THE HIGH TO THE SCHOOLS. 
          HOW MUCH TO EACH HIGH SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          I'M CONFUSED ABOUT ONE DONATION. 
          54. 
          MAYBE I MISSED SISTER AND BUDGET WORKSHOP. 
          I THOUGHT LAST YEAR WE GAVE THEM 50,000 PLUS A ONE TIME ALLOCATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THIS SAYS THIS IS INCLUDING, THAT'S WHAT INCLUSIVE OF, OR DOES IT MEAN EXCLUSIVE OF ABOVE WE GIVEN A HUNDRED THOUSAND? YEAH, THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PARAGRAPH HERE THAT WAS JUST STATING WHAT WAS DONE THIS YEAR. 
          OH, OH, OH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. 
          54 MARTIN CENTER WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND INCLUSIVE. 
          THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT TO ME. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS 50,000 THIS YEAR. 
          AND HOW DID IT GET TO BE A HUNDREDS? THANK YOU. 
          CORRECT. 
          NOT, YEAH. 
          THERE'S NOT ANOTHER 50,000 INCLUDED ANYWHERE IN THE BUDGET. 
          THIS YEAH. 
          I GUESS IN FACT, TO THE NORMAL THAT WE'VE DONE FOR A COUPLE YEARS. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, SOMEONE WILL NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AND WE CAN JUST PROVIDE THESE, UH, GENERAL TEXT OUT TO EVERYBODY AND Y'ALL CAN DECIDE OR TELL US TODAY WHO WANTS TO DO WHAT. 
          BUT WE, I CAN DO EDUCATION. 
          SO THE YEAH, THE ONE WAS WE WERE GONNA, WE WEREN'T GONNA DO THE INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS. 
          YOU'RE JUST GONNA DO IT ALL IN ONE MOTION. 
          WELL, LET'S, GIVE ME THE EXACT AMOUNT. 
          EACH ONE OF THESE IS GETTING BRENTWOOD ALL FIRM. 
          WELL, I MEAN, HANG ON JUST A SECOND. 
          IF I CAN MAKE THE NOTES HERE. 
          UM, WELL, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL. 
          WE RIGHT. 
          WHAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU IS WHAT IS WHAT WELL, WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET AND WHAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR. 
          WELL, IT SAYS IT GOT LAST YEAR'S FUNDING. 
          I DON'T SEE WHERE IT SAYS, WELL, THERE, THERE IS NOT A BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR EACH OF THESE. 
          THERE'S A BUDGETED TOTAL THAT YOU ALL TOTAL DECIDE HOW TO DISTRIBUTE. 
          TRADITIONALLY YOU'VE DONE THE SAME AMOUNTS, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO DO THIS AMENDMENT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA DO EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUAL. 
          YEAH. 
          SO AS I UNDERSTAND WHAT Y'ALL WANTED TO DO, THERE WOULD BE A MOTION FOR THE BRENTWOOD BALL CLUB. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND LAST YEAR'S AMOUNT FOR THE BALL CLUB WAS 21,000 I 21% OF IT. 
          SO IT'S EASY TO REMEMBER. 
          THEN THERE WOULD BE A, A MOTION FOR THE BLAZE. 
          AND LAST YEAR'S AMOUNT WAS 18,000. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEN THERE WOULD BE A MOTION FOR 50 FORWARD. 
          LAST YEAR'S WAS A HUNDRED, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S ONLY 50 THAT'S YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, THE EXTRA 50 ISN'T IN THE BUDGET. 
          SO IF YOU DID LAST YEAR'S RECURRING AMOUNT, IT WOULD BE 50. 
          AND THEN THE YMCA WAS 63 LAST YEAR, BUT THAT INCLUDED THE LAST 50. 
          SO IT WOULD BE 13 ON A REOCCURRING AMOUNT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT JUST HELPS ME A LOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN THE PAST WE ONLY HAD ONE AGENCY AND IT WAS JUST IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET. 
          NOW YOU'VE GOT TWO APPLICATIONS AND AT YOUR, UH, REQUEST OF A MAJORITY OF YOU, WE, THERE'S 20,000 IN THERE. 
          SO YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION, UH, TO DECIDE HOW YOU DIVVY UP THAT MONEY. 
          UH, AND YOU HAD THE TWO APPLICANTS, WILLIAMSON, INC. 
          AND BRENTWOOD UP. 
          YOU WANT IT EASIER TO DO THE TWO TEAMS TOGETHER? UH, I MEAN, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL HOW YOU WANNA DO IT. 
          WE JUST, THE, THE THOUGHT WAS IS YOU WANTED TO DO IT INDIVIDUALLY FOR EVERYTHING. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE, BUT YOU CAN, OKAY. 
          I'M FINE. 
          I MEAN, I'LL DO BOTH THE, THE BALL CLUBS. 
          BOTH THE BALL CLUB AND THE BOYS IF EASIER OR I'LL DO SEPARATE. 
          I MEAN, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT. 
          I THINK YOU COULD DUMP 'EM TOGETHER. 
          BUT DO BALL CLUBS CAN PUT TOGETHER, WELL, LIKE, KINDA LIKE WE DO ALL THE SCHOOLS AND WE COULD DO BOTH OF THE SPORTS ONES. 
          SO THE BLAZE AND THE BALL CLUB IN ONE MOTION. 
          MOTION WITH INDIVIDUAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS. 
          YES. 
          YOU'RE DOING THAT SUZANNE. 
          SURE. 
          WHO'S DOING THE 50 FORWARD AND THE Y-M-C-I-I CAN DO THAT. 
          IF WE CAN AGREED ON $50,000 AND THE $13,000. 
          DO WE DISCUSS IT IN A BRIEFING SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD BE SPENDING OR WHAT WE WOULD AGREE ON? DIDN'T WE GO KIND OF THROUGH THIS LIST AND DISCUSS IT? AM I REMEMBERING THAT CORRECTLY? I THINK FOR THOSE, YES. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS AS CLEARLY DISCUSSED, BUT THE OTHERS. 
          BUT AGAIN, I JUST, WHEN THE DIRECTION WAS, WE WANNA VOTE ON THESE ALL SEPARATELY. 
          THAT'S THE WAY WE LAID IT OUT HERE. 
          DO YOU REMEMBER THE DATE OF THAT THURSDAY MORNING BRIEFING WHERE WE DISCUSSED ALL OF THOSE ITEMS? I DON'T. 
          YOU DON'T. 
          DOES ANYBODY ELSE REMEMBER WHEN IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN? IT PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN MAYBE THE LATE MARCH ONE, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD A DEADLINE OF MARCH 13TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE APPLICATION. 
          SO WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE WENT OVER THEM WITH YOU AT THAT, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. 
          THAT BRIEFING OF THE, FOR THE SECOND MEETING OF MARCH, INFORMATION FROM HOLLY ON EVERYTHING BROKEN DOWN. 
          I THINK YOU, KAREN SENT YOU ALL THE YEAH. 
          BUT ELSE, ARE THESE NUMBERS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU REMEMBER FROM THE CONVERSATION OR, UH, NOT NECESSARILY, BUT I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER. 
          I MEAN, I REMEMBER WE HAVE THE SHEET THAT YOU GAVE US, I HAVE THAT 
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AND THEN IT LISTED ALL THE, UM, LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR PROPOSED. 
          AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF LITTLE NOTES WRITTEN, BUT NOTHING THAT DETE DETERMINES SPECIFICS. 
          SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS MORE THAT I WAS MISSING OR I DIDN'T WRITE SOMETHING DOWN. 
          I GUESS WE CAN RE-WATCH THAT VIDEO TO SEE. 
          YEAH, I DON'T RECALL ANY DISCUSS. 
          I MEAN, OTHER THAN OBVIOUSLY NOT THE CARRY ON OF THE ONE TIME STUFF. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I DON'T RECALL A DISCUSSION ON THOSE FOUR THAT WAS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAD ALWAYS BEEN THE TRADITIONAL RECURRING, BUT I DON'T, THAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF VOTING INDIVIDUALLY. 
          IF YOU'RE NOT FOR IT, YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BALL CLUB AND BLAZE ONE MOTION. 
          I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND THEN 54. 
          AND WHY DOES THAT WANT TO BE SOMEBODY WANNA DO ONE OR YOU WANT THOSE SEPARATELY? DO EITHER. 
          WHY? YEAH. 
          DO EITHER WAY. 
          I CAN DO ONE OR BOTH IF WE WANNA DO 'EM IN SEPARATE MOTIONS OR WHATNOT. 
          DOES THAT SOUND, IF YOU DON'T MIND DOING THEM, LET'S, LET'S DO 'EM SEPARATE MOTIONS. 
          ONE PERSON DOING THE TWO EFFORT. 
          NO, AND IT IS MY IMPRESSION, I KNOW WE ONLY HAVE FIVE OF US HERE, BUT THE FIVE OF US THAT ARE HERE ARE IN AGREEMENT ON THOSE NUMBERS THAT FOR ONE THROUGH FOUR? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'LL BE, SO FAR WE'VE GOT THREE MOTIONS. 
          I'M THE FIRST FOUR ITEMS, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          OKAY, GOTCHA. 
          WE'LL DO ONE THAT IS THE BALL CLUB IN BLAZE FOR COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN AND THEN SEPARATE MOTIONS FOR 54 AND YMCA. 
          BUT NELSON WOULD DO BOTH OF THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT DIDN'T, UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO DO ONE, BUT I'M FINE WITH DOING EACH OF THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THINGS, Y'ALL WOULD NEED TO DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO, TO DEAL WITH THAT. 
          HISTORICALLY, WE'VE ONLY, WE'VE HAD 10,000 IN THERE AND THAT'S GONE TO WILLIAMSON INC. 
          SO YOU'VE GOT, UH, 20,000 HERE. 
          HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE TO DIVIDE THAT UP. 
          I THINK I REMEMBER KEN WANTING TO DO 10 AND 10. 
          I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE LOGICAL, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T, THIS IS ALL I, YOU ALSO, I MEAN, I I'M NOT SURE HOW LOGICAL IN THE SENSE THAT, I MEAN, I, I, I DO RECALL SUSANNA OR COMMISSIONER, I KNOW COMMISSIONER TRAVIS DID SUGGEST TO 10 AND 10. 
          I KNOW THERE'S ALSO EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SPECIFICALLY HOW THE ORGANIZATIONS DO AND CONTRIBUTE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND THE ROLE IN IT. 
          I KNOW WITH WILLIAMSON INC. 
          UH, THEY'RE WELL ESTABLISHED AND THEY'VE GOT A, YOU KNOW, A, WE'RE, WE'RE A VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL PART OF, UM, UH, OF A VERY BIG BUDGET. 
          IT'S LARGELY PRIVATELY FUNDED TO TRY TO GET WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND THE CITIES AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY A SEAT AT THE TABLE AS WE TRY TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES, UM, THAT, THAT FIT OUR CULTURE AND OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS ENCOURAGE THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY HERE AND HAVING WAYS FOR THEM TO CONNECT THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BRENTWOOD UP, BUT I'M NOT SURE THE BRENTWOOD UPS ROLE IN, IN ACTUAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW THEY'VE HAD SOME, SOME GATHERINGS AND WE'VE ALSO HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THEM BEING ESTABLISHED. 
          AND I KNOW, UM, A FEW COMMISSIONERS HAVE MADE THE ARGUMENT, THE BRENTWOOD UP SOMEHOW MEETS A MINIMAL STANDARD. 
          BUT I'M, I'M NOT SURE I SEE HOW THEY MEET THE, THE, THE STANDARD, THE BRENTWOOD AND THE COMMISSION IS TYPICALLY USED FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE SPEND TAX TAXPAYER MONEY ON. 
          SO I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF FUNDING BRENTWOOD UP TO SPEAK UP. 
          IF WE WANNA SPEND MORE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I'D DO IT WITH A, A, A A, A PROFESSIONAL PARTNER THAT MEETS OUR STANDARDS. 
          THE CITY. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF OUR VOTING INDIVIDUALLY. 
          WE CAN GO ON RECORD AND IT'LL BE CLEAR WHO FEELS WHAT WAY. 
          SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO THESE ? WELL, I BELIEVE IN WILLIAMS, INC. 
          I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT NOMINATION. 
          MM-HMM. 
           ALL DIFFERENT WITH IT. 
          AND I TELL YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO DO NICK CUMBERLAND SINCE I BROUGHT THAT A FEW YEARS AGO AGO. 
          THAT'S A SEPARATE ONE. 
          WE'D BE INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          IT'S A GOOD COMMUNITY. 
          SO RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE. 
          SO I, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO DO ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE'LL SEND IT, WE'LL WORK WITH KAREN AND GET THE WORDINGS OF EACH OF 
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THESE SENT OUT TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE, UM, FOR WILLIAMSON, INC. 
          AND BRENTWOOD UP. 
          I'M NOT GONNA ASSUME DOLLAR AMOUNT, SO WE'LL JUST PUT A BLANK IN THERE AND WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION CAN, CAN DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, ZONING FIVE OF YOU HERE AND DISCUSSION. 
          SO, AND GIVEN THE, THE PROBLEM WE HAD LAST YEAR WITH THE MOTION ON THE MEETING NOT BEING THE SAME AS THE AGREED UPON MOTION FROM THE, THE THURSDAY BRIEFING, IF WE CAN GET THE MOTIONS WRITTEN OUT SPECIFICALLY SO WE CAN FOLLOW THEM ALONG, WE CAN, WE WILL SHARE THEM WITH ALL OF YOU IF YOU, IF THAT WAY EVERYBODY HAS, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          BECAUSE IT'S HAVING THE MOTIONS CHANGE BETWEEN THURSDAY AND, AND MONDAY I FELT WAS VERY PROBLEMATIC. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YEAH. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL JUST SHARE 'EM ALL IN ONE SHEET, SHARE WITH EVERYBODY AND, AND YOU'LL KNOW WHO'S, WE'LL PUT THE NAMES NEXT TO THE ONES WHO VOLUNTEERED TO DO THIS. 
          SO, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING, OTHER THING YOU, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT IF YOU CHOOSE TO DEAL WITH WOULD BE MY SALARY ADJUSTMENT. 
          UM, UNDER MY AGREEMENT, UM, EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT OF THE MARKET ADJUSTMENT THAT IS APPLIED ACROSS THE BOARD IS, IS APPLIED TO ME. 
          ALSO, THE ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE IS WHETHER YOU ALL CHOOSE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE BUDGETED 2% MERIT ADJUSTMENT, AND THAT'S SOLELY ON YOUR, YOUR CHOICE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S THEN IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WE NEED TO BE MADE AT THAT POINT ALSO, WE HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY IS THAT ON YOUR SALARY? IS THAT OR I MEAN THAT NORMALLY THE, THE, THE MAYOR BRINGS IT UP. 
          I MEAN, HISTORICALLY THE MAYOR HAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF UNOFFICIALLY DISCUSSED SOMETHING. 
          I MEAN, KRISTEN CLOSE YOUR EARS AND  AND, AND PRESENTED SOMETHING. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, YOU CAN DISCUSS IT AT THE, ON THE FLOOR. 
          AND AGAIN, THERE'S NO OBLIGATION. 
          UH, IT'S JUST YOUR DISCRETION ON THAT. 
          AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, NUMBER FOUR, ANY AMENDMENT CAN BE BROUGHT AT THIS TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          AT ANY TIME. 
          AND, AND IF, IF THERE ARE ANY DISCREPANCY IN ANY AMENDMENT THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, IT'LL BE BROUGHT UP. 
          YOU'LL BRING IT UP OR SAY THIS IS A DISCREPANCY FROM WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. 
          THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO YOU'LL BE SORT OF MONITORING THE PROCESS. 
          TRYING TO YES. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          AND KRISTEN, YOU WILL BE, I WILL TRY TO, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT SO WE'VE LISTED THE ONES WE KNOW HAVE TO HAPPEN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THEN, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANY COMMISSIONER HAS THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR THEM. 
          IT'S JUST LIKE IN ANY, IN ANYTHING WE EVER HAVE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THE FLOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN FOR AMENDMENTS. 
          AND AMENDMENTS CAN BE OFFERED AND CHANGED AT ANY TIME DURING THE AMENDED, VOTED UP, VOTED DOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST OUR GOVERNANCE AND HOW WE WORK. 
          RIGHT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M STILL AMAZED EVERY YEAR THAT OUR BUDGET IS ONE OF THE EASIEST THINGS WE DO. 
          AND WE'RE SO LUCKY THEY MIGHT DISAGREE. 
          . 
          I DON'T MEAN PULLING IT TOGETHER. 
          WE'RE NOT AGONIZING OVER DO WE HAVE WELL, WE DON'T HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE LUCKY THAT WE CAN WE AFFORD THIS POLICE CAR, DO WE HAVE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHICH IS, AS WE'VE SAID OVER AND OVER, IS A TESTAMENT TO THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN STAFF AND YOU ALL. 
          BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES AND PROBABLY OTHER GOVERNING BODIES WHERE, WELL, WE'VE GOT MONEY, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE TO SPEND IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AS OPPOSED TO LET, LET BE JUDICIOUS AND CONSERVATIVE IN OUR BUDGETING BLESSING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          I, YESTERDAY I WAS FILLING OUT MY FORMS FOR PREMISE FOR THE YEARLY PHYSICAL FOR THE CITY. 
          AND THEY HAVE A QUESTIONNAIRE ABOUT, WE CAN DECLINE TO ANSWER, BUT THINGS LIKE, AH, HAVE YOU FAILED TO BUY FOOD BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT? CAN HAVE YOU EVER COME UP SHORT ON PAYING, BEING ABLE TO PAY YOUR BILLS OR HAVING YOUR ELECTRICITY CUT OFF? NOW, I CAN'T IMAGINE LIVING UNDER THAT STRESS. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE SO HARD FOR PEOPLE. 
          FORTUNATELY THERE ARE, UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO ANSWER SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW, HOW LUCKY YOU ARE, YOU KNOW. 
          TRUE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, OTHER ITEMS, SECOND ITEM OF ALL BUSINESS IS JUST THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE, WHICH IS, UH, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          YOU DO TWO, THE BUSINESS TWO. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE ON THE BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE AND THEN ALL BUSINESS THREE IS, UM, THE SECOND READING OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE FLOOD ORDINANCE THAT WERE CONSIDERED ON FIRST READING BACK IN JANUARY. 
          I THINK, UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID THESE RELATED TO THE ENCLOSED STAIRS IN THE ELEVATED HOMES. 
          WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO FEMA AND FEMA FOR REVIEW. 
          AND WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE. 
          SO WE DEFERRED SECOND 
          [00:35:01]
READING AND THAT THAT DEFERRAL AT THAT TIME SAID TO THIS DATE OR THIS MEETING DATE, OR THE NEXT MEETING AFTER WE GET THE APPROVAL, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. 
          WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE APPROVAL. 
          AND, AND TODD CAN DISCUSS WHAT LITTLE WE KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK UP. 
          'CAUSE THAT WAS THE DATE IN THE DEFERRAL. 
          AND ALL WE'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT WE JUST EXTEND THAT DEFERRAL UNTIL DECEMBER 9TH, WHICH IS THE LAST MEETING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR OR UNTIL THE FIRST AVAILABLE MEETING FOLLOWING NOTIFICATION OF APPROVAL FROM TEMA AND FEMA, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. 
          WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE A SENSIBLE RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE SITUATION. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S JUST AN UN AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION. 
          WE HAD AN INITIAL RESPONSE THAT WAS A LITTLE, UM, QUESTIONING OF US AND HAS KIND OF, AND DESPITE CALLS AND EMAILS AND EVERYTHING, WE'RE STILL IN A HOLDING PATTERN. 
          YEAH. 
          I'VE DOCUMENTED ALL COMMUNICATION , SO JUST TO COVER MY TAIL. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE, UM, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD, THEY'VE HAD SOME TURNOVER AT THE STATE LEVEL, THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT DOES THE REVIEW, HE'S BEEN OUTTA THE OFFICE SOME, BUT THE MAIN THING FOR ME IS THEY'VE NOT BEEN VERY RESPONSIBLE. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN VERY GOOD AT GIVING ME THE UPDATES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO I MADE IT VERY EASY FOR THEM. 
          INITIALLY WHEN I SENT THE CHANGES, I, I INCLUDED A VERY DETAILED EXPLANATION OF SPECIFICALLY, HEY, THIS IS THE ONLY THING CHANGING HOPE, HOPEFUL THAT QUICK, UH, RESPONSE. 
          BUT I WILL CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE TO PRESS THEM AS MUCH AS I CAN. 
          IS THERE A PERSON IN THE POSITION NOW THAT IS EVEN RESPONDING TO THERE'S, THERE'S A NEW POSITION, A NEW PERSON AT THE TEAM OF POSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT HE, HE DOES NOT, IT'S STILL UP TO FEMA. 
          SO THEY HAVE TO DO THE REVIEW FEMA FIRST BEFORE TEAM. 
          ACTUALLY IT'S, IT'S ALL FEMA. 
          OKAY. 
          FEMA, , FEMA WOULD JUST DEFER TO FEMA. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IS THERE A PERSON IN FEMA THAT'S A CONTACT THAT WE HAVE? YES. 
          SO THEY'RE JUST NOT RESPONDING. 
          NO VOICEMAILS EMAIL, VOICE EMAILS SAID HE WAS OUT OF THE OFFICE OR, YEAH. 
          SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP GET SOMEBODY TO RESPOND? IS THERE SOMEBODY AT THE STATE LEVEL? WE NEED TO, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. 
          AND I THINK I'VE ALREADY DONE THOSE. 
          UM, I, I REACHED OUT TO RUSS PETERSON, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR HERE AT THE CITY. 
          HE HAS SOME CONTACTS AT THE COUNTY AND TEMA LEVEL. 
          UM, HE DID HELP ME IN FACT, UH, GET A RESPONSE FROM THE TEMA, THE NEW TEMA INDIVIDUAL. 
          OKAY. 
          WHO TOLD ME THAT THEY ARE CONTINUING TO, UH, TRY TO GET FEMA TO, TO GET IT REVIEWED. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT WAS THE LAST COMMUNICATION I HAD WAS THEY WERE, TEMA WAS GONNA SEND A ANOTHER EMAIL TO THE FEMA GENTLEMAN TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE STATUS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT WAS ON, UH, JUNE 17TH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL KEEP PUSHING IF WE CAN FIND ANOTHER, I MEAN THE, THE FEMA HIERARCHY IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND OR GET TO WHOEVER AND FEMA'S EVEN MORE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THE FEMA. 
          YEAH. 
          IS THERE, I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN TALK TO ANY OF OUR OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AT ANY LEVEL TO WELL, I HAVE MAKE A PHONE CALL ON  OR SOMETHING CHANGING. 
          I HAVEN'T GOTTEN EXCHANGING VOICEMAILS WITH CONGRESSMAN OGLE OFFICE, BOTH ON THE GRANT PENDING GRANT APPLICATION. 
          I CAN ADD THIS TO IT WHEN OKAY. 
          I EVER GET A CHANCE TO TALK WITH THEM. 
          THEY, IT HASN'T RESPONDED TO MY LAST EMAIL, BUT YEAH. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY HOPE. 
          UM, JUST A, A CONGRESSIONAL INQUIRY MIGHT BREAK IT LOOSE. 
          AND SO I'VE REACHED OUT TO AL'S OFFICE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'D REACHED OUT TO CONGRESSMAN GREEN THINKING, GIVEN HIS POSITION, BUT ACCORDING TO THEM, CONGRESSIONAL COURTESY IS, IT GOES TO THE DISTRICT CONGRESSMAN THAT WE HAD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO WOULD IT HELP IF WE REACHED OUT? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME. 
          OKAY. 
          PHONE NUMBER. 
          I MEAN, I CAN GIVE IF YOU WANT TO, BUT JUST I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, STAFF TO STAFF IS WITH THE APPROPRIATE PROTOCOL HERE. 
          I MEAN. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, NO, I MEAN, IF YOU'VE GOT A A, A DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE CONGRESSMAN THEMSELVES. 
          'CAUSE I'M CALLING THE OFFICE AND GETTING THE STAFF PERSON, SO NO,  I DON'T AT ALL. 
          BUT YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS IN BRENTWOOD, BUT THAT'S TRUE. 
          I'LL MAKE ANOTHER CALL IN THE OFFICE. 
          NOT ENOUGH THAT'S GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS TO GET 'EM JUMPING, BUT STILL AN INQUIRY. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I, AGAIN, I WOULD, I WAS DOING IT PRIMARILY FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THIS, IF WE CAN ADD TO, CAN ADD THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL JUST TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING. 
          SO, BECAUSE THIS IS A 
          [00:40:01]
LONG TIME FOR THESE RESIDENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'RE, IT'S TOO LONG, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE WAITING TO GET BACK IN YOUR HOUSE IN, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS BEEN, BUT THEY'RE STILL UNDER A TEMPORARY PENDING UNDER TEMPORARY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE POTENTIAL RISK OF IT NOT BEING APPROVED. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN THEY, SOME OF 'EM HAVE MONEY TO STILL TIE UP WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT THEY NEED TO GET BACK THAT THEY CAN'T UNTIL WE CAN ISSUE A FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, WHICH WE CAN'T UNTIL THIS IS APPROVED. 
          TODD, THANK YOU FOR BEING DILIGENT, KIRK. 
          THANK YOU FOR EMAILING AND CALLING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER ITEM IS JUST THE NOTICE OF, UH, FUTURE APPOINTMENT. 
          UH, ONE MEMBER, THE HISTORIC COMMISSION TO FULFILL THE REMAINING TERM FOR ANTA, WHO IS, UM, ONE OF OUR MEMBERS IS MOVING. 
          UH, AND I'LL BE HAPPY AFTER THE MEETING OFF CAMERA TO TELL YOU WHO THAT IS. 
          I DON'T FEEL LIKE I NEED TO BE CARRYING THAT, BUT BUSINESS ON TV, BUT I, WELL, IT'S LISTED, IT, IT'S LISTED IN HERE, SO I KNOW. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T EVEN READ THAT PART BECAUSE I ALREADY KNEW IT. 
          SHE'S YEAH. 
          MOVING OUT OF TOWN, SO, OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S JUST THE NOTICE OF THE APPLICATION, NOT THE APPOINTMENT. 
          SO, AND A VERY GOOD MEMBER WILL BE MISSED TOO. 
          ON, UM, THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, SORRY, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF BUILDING PROTECTION APPEALS. 
          AND WE WERE ASKING, THE ASKING WAS IF THE FOLKS WHO WERE CURRENTLY ON THAT, THAT BOARD WANTED TO CONTINUE OR NOT BECAUSE OF THE SPECIFICATIONS OF WHAT THEY NEED TO HAVE SO THEY CAN SERVE. 
          DO WE KNOW, HAVE WE HEARD IF THEY WANTED TO OR NOT? I'VE GOTTEN ONE OF THEIR APPLICATIONS ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE BOTH HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED, RIGHT? THE DEADLINE IS JULY 15TH ON THAT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, COUPLE OTHER ITEMS OF DISCUSSION WE WANTED TO DO. 
          DO. 
          SO, UM, I GUESS BOB IS GONNA MAYBE TAKE THIS, UH, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT YOU ALL THE ISSUE OF THE VALERIE PROPERTY, UH, OPEN SPACE AND DR. WEST. 
          AND DR. WEST IS HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'VE TOLD HIM, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IF YOU ALL HAD QUESTIONS FOR HIM, UM, YOU COULD DIRECT THOSE TWO HIM IF YOU WANTED TO, BUT WE WANTED TO KIND OF BOB AND STAFF AND, AND MYSELF TOO, HAVE, HAVE MET WITH DR. WEST. 
          TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. 
          SO WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOU. 
          I MEAN, THERE IS A PATH TO A RESOLUTION. 
          UH, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, PARTIES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ON BOARD, INCLUDING YOURSELVES, UH, AT SOME POINT IN THE PROCESS. 
          SO BOB, JUST KIND OF GO OVER THAT. 
          YEAH, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO SIMPLIFY THIS IF I CAN. 
          IT GETS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED, BUT IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION RECENTLY THAT, UH, THE BELLREVE TWO, UM, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, BELL RIE TWOS UP HERE WAS CONSIDERING A LAND SWAP WITH DR. WEST, WHOSE PROPERTY IS SHOWN, KIND OF OUTLINED IN ORANGE, UM, TO CORRECT THE SITUATION THAT WERE, UH, AN ADDITION, A RESIDENTIAL ADDITION WAS BUILT OVER A PROPERTY LINE. 
          AND SO IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON THAT, THIS IS THE PROPERTY WHERE THIS ADDITION AROUND 2020 WAS ADDED TO THE EXISTING HOUSE AND IT APPEARS TO HAVE CROSSED THE PROPERTY LINE INTO THE BERI TO OPEN SPACE AREA. 
          AND I MEAN IT, THAT'S A PROBLEM IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT I MEAN, TO MEET OUR CODE, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A 35 FOOT SETBACK. 
          SO IT'S NOT, NOT CLOSE TO THAT. 
          I THINK THE EXISTING HOUSE WAS JUST AT 35 FEET, BUT WITH THAT ADDITION TO, TO THE HOME, UM, THAT WOULD NOT MEET OUR CODE. 
          AND THEN TO COMPLICATE THIS MORE THE, AS YOU KNOW, QUICK, QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. 
          UH, THAT'S THE AERIAL PHOTO I GUESS FROM THE GIS. 
          HAS IT BEEN SURVEYED? ARE WE PRETTY SURE THAT'S ACCURATE? YEAH, THERE, I MEAN DR. WEST I BELIEVE HAS A SURVEY THAT'S DONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS EXACTLY RIGHT, BUT I, BUT, BUT IT'S DIRECTIONALLY CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YEAH, IT, IT DOES A SURVEY. 
          IT DOES NOT MEET OUR CODE AND I THINK IT'S OVER THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          SURVEYED SINCE IT WAS BUILT OR PRIOR TO PERMITTING? BOTH. 
          SO IT, IT, SO THAT'S WHY DR. WEST WAS, UH, WORKING WITH BERI TOO TO TRY TO DO A LAND SWAP. 
          AND THEN THAT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT, WELL, IF YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE THE OSRD OPEN SPACE, THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH CITY COMMISSION FOR, FOR APPROVAL. 
          AND SO THIS SHOWS THE ZONING. 
          LRE TWO IS OSRD, THE DR. WEST PROPERTY IS R TWO. 
          SO THAT MEANS THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN TO CHANGE A PROPERTY LINE. 
          YOU WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE OSRD PLAN TO CHANGE THE, THE PLAN AND, AND SHOW THAT YOU CAN STILL MEET THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, UH, OF THE, FOR, 
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FOR BERE TWO. 
          AND THEN THIS IS JUST SORT OF ZOOMING IN ON THAT, SHOWING THE ZONING THAT IS DIFFERENT. 
          YOU HAVE R TWO OVER HERE, OSRD UP HERE. 
          SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE OSRD PLAN AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO REZONE TO, IF THERE'S A LAND SWAP INVOLVED. 
          AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THE PLAN THAT, UH, DR. WEST MET WITH US ON AND SHOWED US WHERE THIS PIECE HERE WOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE OSRD ZONING AND OUT OF THE BEL RIE TWO IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS PIECE, WHICH IS IN R TWO, THAT WOULD BE GIVEN TO BEL RIE TWO. 
          SO THOSE ARE EQUAL AMOUNTS RIGHT NOW THEY'RE EXACTLY EQUAL AMOUNTS. 
          AND THEY WOULD JUST DO A LAND SWAP TO CORRECT THAT. 
          AND THEN WITH, WITH THAT ADDITION, THIS AREA WOULD BE PUT INTO R TWO ZONING. 
          THAT CORNER UP HERE WOULD BE PUT INTO OSRD ZONING. 
          AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE HIM THE, THE REQUIRED SETBACKS AND MAKE IT SO THAT THE, THE HOUSE DOESN'T CROSS THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          SO A LITTLE SECTION LOOKS LIKE THE PROPERTY IS UP AGAINST FOX ON HALL. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL THAT'S NEXT. 
          LEMME KEEP GOING HERE. 
          . 
          SO THERE'S THE, THE LAND SWAP WITH THE BELLREVE TWO SOLAND HALL IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT SITUATION. 
          UM, THIS AREA HAS ALREADY BEEN TRANSFERRED, UH, FROM FOX LAND HALL TO, UH, THERE WAS A DEED DONE THAT TOOK THIS PROPERTY OUT OF THE FOX LAND HALL OPEN SPACE AND PUT IT, UH, INTO THIS PROPERTY IN EXCHANGE FOR THE BOTTOM CORNER. 
          AND I'LL KIND OF, THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE WHOLE THING TOGETHER. 
          UM, SO THE GREEN AREA WAS FOX AND HALL. 
          THE, THE FOX AND HALL TRANSFERRED THIS AREA, UM, WAS TAKEN FROM, LET'S SEE, THE , THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          FOX AND HALL SWAP AREA WAS IN GREEN. 
          AND THEN THIS AREA WAS, UH, GIVEN TO DR. WEST FROM FOX HALL. 
          AND REMEMBER, FOX AND HALL AREA IS ZONED R TWO. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME CITY INVOLVEMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU GO BACK TO THIS MAP, THIS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE FOX AND HALL OPEN SPACE WAS NEVER ZONED OSRD. 
          SO IT'S NOT AT THE EXACT SAME SITUATION. 
          IT WAS ZONED R TWO FOR THE, THE OPEN SPACE FOR FOX AND HALL. 
          UM, SO THAT'S DOESN'T REQUIRE THE SAME PROCESS TO, TO CORRECT THAT SINCE IT'S NOT THE OSRD ZONING ON THEIR OPEN SPACE. 
          AND THEN ONE OTHER COMPLICATING FACTOR IS THE OSRD OPEN SPACE FOR BELL RIE TWO APPARENTLY WAS NEVER OFFICIALLY DEEDED FROM THE DEVELOPER HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO. 
          AND SO DR. WEST AND HIS ATTORNEY HAVE BEEN WORKING TO MAKE THAT OFFICIAL TO, TO DEED THAT OVER OFFICIALLY TO BE RIE TWO SO THAT IT'S SO THAT THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SIGN ON TO ANY ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION. 
          I MEAN, IT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY HAS BEEN THEIRS AND MAINTAINED BY, BY BERE TWO. 
          BUT IF YOU GO BACK THROUGH THE, THE RECORDS, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER FAILED TO ACTUALLY DEED IT OVER TO THEM, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS SHOWN ON THE PLAT AS FI AS BERE TO OPEN SPACE. 
          IT, IT, THE TRANSACTION NEVER HAPPENED AT THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY REGISTER OF DEEDS. 
          SO THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS SO THAT BERE TOO COULD ACTUALLY SIGN ON TO CHANGE THIS. 
          HE, HE ACTUALLY PASSED AWAY RIGHT AFTER THE LAST LOT WAS SOLD. 
          AND THEN THE COMPANY WAS DISSOLVED RIGHT AFTER HE PASSED AWAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE'S NO REMAINING PARTY JUST TO GO DO IT. 
          SO DR. WEST HAS OFFERED TO WORK TO ASSIST THE HOA TO JUST GET THIS DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO QUICK IF YOU BACK UP, SO SOMETHING THAT ALSO SEEMS TO BE, I WANNA CLARIFY ON THE FOX AND HALL STUFF, PART OF THEIR OPEN SPACE IS R TWO, BUT THEN THEY HAVE OSRD. 
          SO DO WE NEED TO CLEAN ANYTHING UP THERE WHILE WE'RE AT IT? DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH OPEN SPACE? IT WAS AN EQUAL EXCHANGE, SO NO, NO, I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE EXCHANGE. 
          I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT LIKE, IF, IF FOX AND HALL KIND OF HAS SOME UNFINISHED BUSINESS TOO, DO WE ALSO NEED TO CONSIDER THE, WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND BECAUSE IT'S R TWO, WE FELT LIKE THAT ONE WASN'T THE SAME SITUATION WHERE THEY, THEY CAN DO THE, THE LAND SWAP BECAUSE OF IT'S R TWO AND THERE, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT UPDATING THE OSRD PLAN WHEN IT'S R 'CAUSE SINCE IT'S R TWO. 
          SO THAT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A WEIRD SITUATION BECAUSE MOST O SRDS HAVE CONSISTENT ORD ZONING AND I'M JUST SEPARATE FROM THIS WHOLE, YOU KNOW, ISSUE. 
          IS F WHAT YOU BRING UP IS THAT THERE'S MAYBE AN ISSUE ALSO AT FOX AND HALL THAT WE'VE DISCOVERED AS A RESULT OF THIS. 
          YOU'RE SAYING TO TO REZONE THEIR OPEN BASED TO OSD WE SOMETHING, DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH OPEN SPACE? LIKE 
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IF THAT R TWO STUFF GETS DEVELOPED, ARE THEY GONNA STILL HAVE ENOUGH OPEN SPACE FOR THEIR OSRD? DO WE NEED TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE ALL INTO ALL OF FOX AND HALLS ACKERSON LEFT THERE RIGHT? OPEN OR A FOX AND HALL? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT EIGHT RANGE FOR, WE DIDN'T SPENT THAT MUCH TIME ON HOW MANY 2030. 
          OH NO, IT'S, I MEAN IF YOU JUST LOOK AT, I'LL GO BACK TO ONE OF THE PROPERTY MAPS. 
          I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, I'M TALKING ABOUT FOX ONE HALL. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, I MEAN THAT'S HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? PROBABLY. 
          I MEAN, I THINK DR. 
          WEST'S PROPERTY, WELL, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH THIS ONE IS. 
          HE, THERE WAS SEVERAL THAT WERE SORT OF UP FOR SALE THAT WERE LISTED WITH SEVERAL OF THESE AS 37 ACRES. 
          AND SO, I DON'T KNOW, FOX AND I MEAN THAT IS, THAT'S PROBABLY 30 OR 40 ACRES. 
          SO THERE'S ROOM FOR OSRD IF THEY WANTED TO DO THAT AT SOME POINT. 
          YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISSUE OF ARE THEY COMPLIANT WITH OSRD? I GUESS I, I GUESS I WOULD TAKE YOUR POINT AS MAYBE MORE CLEANING UP, BUT MAKING IT OSRD JUST SO THERE COULDN'T BE A CLAIM THAT RIGHT. 
          THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED IN SOME FORM OF, I MEAN, IT'S PLATTED AS OPEN SPACE FOR FOX AND HALL, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO UNDO THAT PLAT, BUT IF YOU HAD IT ZONED IT WOULD, BUT IF WE'RE CLEANING IT UP, IF YOU'RE CLEANING IT UP AND DOING THAT, I WOULDN'T TIE THESE TOGETHER IN WAY NO, IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME LIKE, WE DON'T WANNA HAVE THIS PROBLEM AGAIN IF SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE FUTURE LAND SWAPS OR SURVEYS OR WHATEVER, JUST TO CLEAN IT UP. 
          DO YOU MIND POINTING OUT ON THIS MAP WHERE THAT LAND SWAP WAS WITH FOX AND HALL? 'CAUSE I CAN'T, UM, I CAN'T OVERLAY THAT OTHER MAP WITH THIS ONE. 
          IT'S RIGHT UP HERE AT THE CORNER OF THE FOX ON HALL OPEN SPACE AND THEN DOWN HERE. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          WHERE THAT, THAT PIECE WAS TAKEN FROM DR. 
          WEST'S PROPERTY AND GIVEN TO FOX ON HALL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THIS PIECE WAS TAKEN FROM THE FOX ON HALL OPEN SPACE AND GIVEN TO DR. WEST. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND SO THEN SUMMARIZE, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A REZONING APPLICATION THAT WOULD GO THIS. 
          I MEAN THIS WAS, WE TALKED THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT TOO. 
          SO SINCE IT'S ALL SORT OF UNUSUAL HOW IT WOULD PLAY OUT, UH, REZONING APPLICATION TO REZONE THE, THE TWO AREAS THAT WE DISCUSSED. 
          IF THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPTS THAT ON FIRST READING, THEN THE, THE REVISED OSRD PLAN AND REZONING WOULD THEN KIND OF BE CONSIDERED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE SAME MEETING. 
          THEY WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN THAT WOULD GO THROUGH CITY COMMISSION FOR AS TWO SEPARATE ORDINANCES, BUT FOR REZONING AND, UH, OSRD AMENDMENT AND SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF, THEY CONSIDER THEM AT THE SAME TIME. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER REALLY. 
          UM, SO ONE WOULD JUST BE A RESOLUTION, THE OTHER WOULD BE THE TWO READINGS OF AN ORDINANCE. 
          SO WE'D HOLD THAT REVISED OSRD PLAN UNTIL THE REZONING YEAH. 
          UNTIL THE FINAL READING OF THE REZONING. 
          CAN WE, NOW THE FIRST PART OF THIS THAT'S NOT LISTED THERE THOUGH IS THE BELL REEF TWO HOA HAS TO AGREE TO THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE NOTHING COMES TO YOU UNTIL THE, THOSE TWO PARTIES HAVE IT. 
          THEY FIRST, THEY FIRST HAVE TO GET THE OWNERSHIP STRAIGHTENED OUT, AND ONCE THAT IS DEEDED TO THE BEL RIE TO HOA SO THAT THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SIGN IT, THEN THEY HAVE, THEY WOULD SIGN ONTO THE REZONING APPLICATION AND THE OSRD AMENDMENT APPLICATION. 
          CAN WE REQUEST OF STAFF FOR A STEP WHERE IT GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION? IT'S NOT ON CONSENT SINCE THIS IS KIND OF CONFUSING. 
          NO. 
          OH YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS WOULDN'T BE, THIS WOULDN'T BE ON BECAUSE IT BE A REZONING ORDINANCE IN THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST MAKING SURE. 
          THEN THE OTHER THING WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, SO IT WOULD NOT, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING? I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE RESOLVED IN A LEGAL FASHION, HOWEVER, IT'S LIKE ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL WITH PEOPLE ACTING ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT CITY INVOLVEMENT. 
          I MEAN, I FIRST HEARD OF THIS FROM A RESIDENT WHO HEARD ABOUT IT AT A NEIGHBORHOOD PARTY AND THE HOA PRESIDENT WAS JUST MOVING THROUGH. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT, I MEAN, I, I THINK THESE HOAS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THEY CAN'T START SWAPPING LAND OFF WITHOUT SOME CITY INVOLVEMENT. 
          SO THEN THAT'S WHAT REALLY BOTHER. 
          WELL, I THINK MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PLAYED OUT, BUT I THINK FOX ON HALL DID IT ALREADY AND MAYBE THEY FELT LIKE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. 
          VALEREE TOO COULD DO IT TOO, BECAUSE FOX ON HALL WAS A DIFFERENT SITUATION WITH THE R TWO ZONING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, SO THEN AFTER ALL THE, IF, IF CITY COMMISSION APPROVES THE REZONING AND REVISED OSRD PLAN, THEY'D STILL HAVE TO DO A FINAL PLAT TO KIND OF CORRECT EVERYTHING O ON THE PLAT TO MAKE TO, SO THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OSRD CHANGES. 
          WHAT? AND, AND THEN 
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THEY'D HAVE TO COME IN AND GET A BUILDING PER, DO A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION BECAUSE THE ADDITION TO THE, THE HOME NEVER HAD ANY PERMITS. 
          AND IT WASN'T, IT WAS SO FAR UP IN THE HILLS, NO ONE KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND COULDN'T SEE THAT IT WAS HAPPENING. 
          AND SO IT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET ENGINEERS TO CERTIFY LETTERS THAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED WAS BUILT TO CODE. 
          AND SO THEN IF, IF THEY CAN GET ALL OF THOSE IN PLACE, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO APPROVE THE, THE RESIDENTIAL ADDITION IN PLACE. 
          UM, SO IT SEEMS LIKE A FIRST WAS MISTAKE WAS MADE PRIOR TO 2020 WHEN A SURVEY WAS BASICALLY DONE INCORRECTLY, IF IT'S ACROSS LINES. 
          UH, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, HOW, WHAT WAS CONSIDERED AT THE TIME OF THE RESIDENTIAL EDITION. 
          I MEAN, IT CLEARLY GOES OVER THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          IT CLEARLY VIOLATES THE SETBACKS, I SHOULD SAY THAT I, I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHAT THEY CONSIDERED WHEN THEY STARTED BUILDING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS IT A DIFFERENT SURVEYOR THAT'S VERIFYING THESE PROPERTY LINES NOW THAN WAS INVOLVED IN 2020 ? YEAH, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. 
          DO WE KNOW, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS SOMEBODY'S VERIFIED THESE PROPERTY LINES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YEAH. 
          WE'LL THAT'S, WE WILL HAVE TO REVIEW THAT. 
          THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED ANY OFFICIAL APPLICATION YET. 
          AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO VERIFY THAT WHATEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT WILL ACTUALLY MEET THE CODE IN TERMS OF SETBACKS AND SURVEY. 
          HAVING A SURVEY OF IT THAT IT'S ACCURATE, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS AND FIND OUT IT'S STILL WRONG. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEY'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, ACCURATE, THAT THEY HAVE ACCURATELY SURVEYED THE, THE, THE ADDITION AND THE PROPERTY LINES SO THAT WE KNOW THAT IT MEETS THE 35 FOOT SETBACK. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, I THINK, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA TAKE YOUR TIME BECAUSE I KNOW THIS ISN'T THE PLACE TO, TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LISTEN AND LOOK AT THE OPTICS OF THIS, IT COULD VERY EASILY LOOK LIKE I, IT WAS MY EGO AND I JUST TOOK OVER AND DID WHATEVER I WANTED. 
          AND NOW I'M ASKING, UM, FOR FORGIVENESS FOR IT. 
          I, I WAS, WHEN I BOUGHT THAT LAND 10 OR 11 YEARS AGO, I KNEW WE HAD TWO AREAS THAT HAD BOUNDARY ISSUES. 
          SO THEN IN 2016, I HAD SOMEBODY SURVEY IT AND HE SAID, YOU'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH YOUR EXISTING HOUSE. 
          I SAID, OKAY, GREAT. 
          ONE OF THESE DAYS I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          JUST LET IT GO. 
          DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. 
          UM, SO I KNEW THAT MY BOUNDARY WASN'T RIGHT IN THE, IN THE LOG HOME THAT WE WERE LIVING IN. 
          SO IN 2020, TRULY, I JUST, MY OFFICE HAS SHUT DOWN AND EMILY'S FAMILY HAS STEWARD LUMBER. 
          AND I JUST DID THE ADDITION. 
          I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. 
          SO I SAT IN HERE AND SAID, I AM REALLY SORRY. 
          LIKE I, I, I'M NOT, I DID NOT BUILD THIS OVER THINKING THAT I'M JUST GONNA COME IN HERE AND YOU'VE GOTTA TRUST THAT PART OF WHO I AM. 
          AND I GET IT. 
          LIKE I CAN SEE THE OPTICS OF WHAT THIS IS LIKE. 
          SO THEN DR. LEE DECIDES TO MOVE OUT OF TOWN, WHICH IS 62 26, CALLS ME AND SAYS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BUY MY HOUSE? 'CAUSE I'VE KNOWN HIM MY ENTIRE LIFE GROWING UP HERE. 
          SO I SAID, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO. 
          'CAUSE I HAD FIVE ACRES THAT HAD JOINED MY PROPERTY AT THAT MOMENT IS WHEN I WENT TO REAGAN SMITH, WHO IS THE FIRM THAT DID ALL OF THE PLATS AND THE SURVEYS FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, ALL IN BRENTWOOD. 
          AND SO, SID, WHO IS LIVES NEXT DOOR TO MY SISTER AND PARENTS IN BELL REEVE, I JUST WENT TO HIM AND HE SAID, HEY, LET'S GET KEVIN AND DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY. 
          AND SO I SAID, OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO THEY WENT BACK AND SHOT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK UP TO MY HOUSE BACK DOWN. 
          THEY ACTUALLY FOUND THREE DIFFERENT OVERLAYS WHERE SID LOOKED AT. 
          AND HE WAS LIKE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY THESE ARE CHANGED. 
          AND WE DID IT. 
          UM, AT THE SAME TIME I HIRED, I HAVE JACK ROBINSON, THAT'S MY LAWYER. 
          AND I SAID, JACK, WHAT DO I DO? AND SO I WAS ACTING ON ALL OF THOSE OF WHAT I WAS TOLD. 
          I WASN'T TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING FROM THE CITY, NOT ONE TIME, AND HAD NO CLUE THAT ANYBODY WAS UPSET AT ANY TIME. 
          SO I HAD TOLD THEM, JUST LIKE I DID FOX AND HALL, HEY, Y'ALL INVITE ANYBODY YOU WANT HERE, I'M HERE NOT TO HIDE ANYTHING. 
          I WANT EVERYBODY, THEY'RE WELCOME TO ACTUALLY COME LOOK AT IT. 
          'CAUSE THE TOPO IS SO STEEP YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK ON IT AND IT DOESN'T GET ANYWHERE NEAR ANYBODY'S YARD. 
          SO I WAS REALLY, TRULY TRYING TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. 
          SITTING DOWN, LOOKING AT THE HOUSE, HOUSE. 
          I GET IT. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF I'M BEING HONEST, I WAS HAVING, WE HAD OUR 4-YEAR-OLD THAT WAS IN HERE, THAT WAS 14 YEAR GAP IN BETWEEN OUR OTHER KIDS. 
          AND MY OFFICE IS SHUT DOWN AND WE LIVED IN A, THE ONE ROOM HOUSE AND ONE BATHROOM. 
          AND EMILY WAS LIKE, CAN YOU PLEASE DO SOMETHING? SO I DID IT. 
          UM, IT'S ALSO BEING WORKED OUT, SAT WITH MICHAEL. 
          HE SAID, DO THESE THINGS FOR ME. 
          AND I'M IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW AND GETTING EVERY ONE OF THOSE. 
          UM, SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS LET EVERYBODY HERE, ESPECIALLY YOU GUYS AND ANYONE THAT REALLY WANTS TO COME. 
          NO, I, I WASN'T TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING AND I'VE LIKE, I TRULY HAVE SERVED THIS COMMUNITY FOREVER IN A, IN 
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A REALLY SERVANT HEARTED WAY. 
          AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, WILL, WILL I GO THROUGH ALL THIS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S 0.09 OF AN ACRE. 
          IT'S A TEENY LITTLE SLIVER THAT ANYONE'S WELCOME TO COME SEE AND, AND STEP ON. 
          BUT I, YOU KNOW, PLEASE ASK ME QUESTIONS LIKE I'M, I'M OPEN FOR ANY OF IT. 
          LIKE, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANNA, THERE'S NOTHING THAT I'VE GOT TO HIDE AND WHERE I NEED TO ASK FOR APOLOGIES. 
          I WILL. 
          AND I AGREE WITH YOU WITH WHAT YOU SAID, BUT, YOU KNOW, GOING ON AND DOING IT, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T ACT ON KNOWING THAT I WAS DOING SOMETHING. 
          I WANT YOU TO KNOW, I NEVER THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO PULL THE WOOL UP OR ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS SAYING WHAT BOTHERED ME WAS HOW COMFORTABLE AN HOA WAS IN SAYING, OH YEAH, WE'LL SWAP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LAND. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY OUGHT TO KNOW BETTER. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU WERE TRYING TO CORRECT A PROBLEM AND YOU WENT INTO THEM IN GOOD FAITH AND THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'VE GOT TO INVOLVE THE CITY. 
          THAT'S WHAT DISTURBED ME, UH, MORE THAN ANYTHING. 
          NOT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO NO. 
          AND  YOUR LAND. 
          I MEAN, EVERYBODY HAS THAT. 
          AND MY CONCERN WAS IF THE SURVEY WAS DONE INCORRECTLY IN THE BEGINNING, THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CORRECT AND TOUGH. 
          AND, AND IT OBVIOUSLY WAS WHEN I BOUGHT IT. 
          I THINK IT WAS AGAIN IN 2016, TO BE HONEST WITH THE ALER. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'VE GOT ALL COPIES OF THOSE, BUT THAT'S WHY I WENT TO REAGAN SMITH. 
          OKAY. 
          REAGAN SMITH IS, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT FOUND THE PROBLEM. 
          AND, AND, AND ALSO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DID THE, DID THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THEY DID FOX AND HALL, THEY DID BEL RE, BEL RE TOO, ALL OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF THE PATH FORWARD. 
          THEY'VE STILL GOT SOME THINGS I THINK RELATED TO THE HO OR THE YEAH. 
          WE'RE WAITING RIGHT NOW LAND GETTING CONFERRED TO THE HOA. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          WE, RIGHT NOW THAT'S IN THE, IN THE STATE COURT SYSTEM TO GET THEM THEIR PROPERTY AND THEN WE CAN GO DO THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, THANKS FOR WORKING ON ALL THIS. 
          IT'S REALLY CONFUSING. 
          . 
          I'VE LEARNED A LOT. 
          IT'S BEEN A, IT IS BEEN A TWO YEAR, IT'S BEEN 19 MONTHS. 
          WOW. 
          SO, WELL, I THINK, AND I THINK TOO, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO ADDRESS FOX AND HALL AT SOME POINT UNRELATED TO THIS. 
          AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE OUT THERE THAT'S SIMILAR TO THIS  WE FIND IT, WE PROBABLY NEED TO ADDRESS THAT TOO. 
          PROBABLY. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, LIKE FOX AND HALL, I THINK EITHER WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE COUNTY OR, OR PRIOR. 
          SO IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME UPDATED STUFF, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          WE KNOW THE CURRENT STUFF. 
          SO, SO YEAH, THIS WOULD BE A INFLUENCE, UM, A DISCUSSION WITH THEM. 
          I MEAN, WORK LIST FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          TECHNICALLY THE CITY COULD CHOOSE TO JUST DO IT. 
          OBVIOUSLY. 
          I THINK YOU WOULD LIKE TO HOPE THE H OAS SAYS, YEAH, PLEASE, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU TO DO IT. 
          SURE. 
          BUT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO YEAH. 
          IMPOSE ZONING, I THINK, UH, BECAUSE ON THE FOX AND HALL, THE CURRENT DENSITY OF THE HOMES THAT ARE THERE AND THE OPEN SPACE, THE REQUIREMENT IS MET, BUT IT'S ACCOUNTING FOR THAT R TWO ZONING. 
          UM, WITH THE FOXBOROUGH SQUARE STUFF, I DON'T, I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND TELL YOU THAT IT, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANT. 
          THAT'S REALLY DENSE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          THERE'S JUST SOME OF THIS THAT IS JUST GRANDFATHERED IN. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT BECAUSE WE'RE THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND IT'S RELYING ON THAT R TWO OPEN SPACE TO THE RV, AT THE TIME, THOSE STANDARDS WEREN'T IN PLACE WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPED. 
          BUT I THINK JUST TO, I THINK WE NEED TO SWAP IT OVER TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR. 
          CLEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. 
          I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT, I I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CONSIDER AND TELL YOU WHEN WE DO THAT, THAT IT ALL MEETS THE CURRENT STATE. 
          I GET IT. 
          I GET IT. 
          NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT I THINK BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE REST OF IT'S OURS R DAY, WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP TO MAKE IT, IT MAKES SENSE. 
          YES. 
          TODD AND I TRIED TO RESEARCH ALL THE HISTORY OF THE ZONING ON THIS AREA, AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY CONFUSING AND NOT SUPER CLEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK Y THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS FOR THE TIME AND THE QUESTIONS. 
          PLEASE REACH OUT IF YOU'VE GOT MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE LAST THING WE HAVE ANY SLIDES FOR. 
          UM, SO, UM, THE CITY MANAGER EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM, AFTER LAST BRIEFING, WE WENT THROUGH AND, AND, UM, AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ONES THAT WEREN'T HERE DETERMINED THAT THERE'S A MAJORITY THAT DO PREFER TO GO WITH THE SEARCH FIRM. 
          SO NOW WE NEED TO, WE, YOU NEED TO SELECT WHICH FIRM SO WE CAN GET THAT FIRM UNDER CONTRACT AND, UM, AND GET TO WORK. 
          AND THE GOAL WOULD BE IF WE CAN, UM, I'VE TALKED TO, UH, KEN AND, AND THE MAYOR, UH, WHO AREN'T HERE TODAY. 
          UM, IF, IF WE HAVE A CONSENSUS OF WHICH FIRM, THEN WE CAN GET THAT ON YOUR JULY 8TH AGENDA, GET THAT UNDER CONTRACT AND, AND GET MOVING. 
          SO IT, IT REALLY IS TRULY AND PURELY A COMMISSIONED DECISION. 
          YOU HAD THREE FIRMS, TWO, WHAT I WOULD CALL LARGE NATIONAL FIRMS. ONE THAT IS, UH, WORKS WOULD WORK NATIONALLY, BUT IT'S A SMALLER TYPE OF FIRM. 
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UM, PROS AND CONS OF BOTH OF THOSE. 
          UM, WE GAVE YOU OUR SCORING FROM A STAFF SIDE. 
          UM, WE HAD NO OFFENSE TO JAY, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF AN OUTLIER ON 1 1, 1 VIEW OF ONE OF THE SMALLER FIRM, LIKE, YOU DON'T GRADE MY ESSAY. 
          THAT THAT WAS MY FIRST CHOICE AND I APRIL GRADED WITH ME. 
          AND BOY, YOU KILLED IT WITH YOUR . 
          WELL, AND AGAIN, THE, IT'S YOUR CHOICE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW IN ANY WAY. 
          THE STAFF SCORING. 
          DID YOU EVER GET, UH, HAVE A BAD EXPERIENCE FOR THAT FIRM OR SOMETHING ? NO. 
          IT, IT SIMPLY WAS THEIR LACK OF EXPERIENCE. 
          . 
          WELL, THAT'S PROBLEM. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, I STAFF WOULD BE GLAD TO, TO OFFER ANY, ANY INPUT AT ALL. 
          AGAIN, I THINK ALL, ALL THREE ARE, ARE, ARE VIABLE FIRMS. AND AGAIN, PROS AND CONS OF, OF BOTH OR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE BIG NATIONAL THING VERSUS THE, THE SMALLER, UM, ONE. 
          SO I'LL JUST STOP THERE AND SEE IF, UM, IF Y'ALL, AND WERE THESE THE ONLY THREE THAT THOSE WAS THE ONLY THREE RESPONSES WE GOT? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          COUPLE SURPRISED. 
          'CAUSE THE SMYRNA ONE WAS A DIFFERENT, IT WAS A MERCER AND, AND, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER LARGE NATIONAL ONE, COLIN INGER THAT I ASSUMED, I MEAN THEY DOWNLOADED THE, THE RFP, BUT NOT, THEY MAY HAVE BEEN NOT RESPOND, BEEN TIMEWISE WITH MERCER. 
          THE SMALL ONE THAT NO, MERCER WAS THE ONE THAT'S DOING SMYRNA, BUT THEY DID NOT SUBMIT A, THEY WEREN'T, I WAS GONNA SAY THEY LIKE THAT. 
          SO GPS GOVERNMENT, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IS THE SMALLER FIRM. 
          AND THEN BAKER TILLY AND MGT, WHICH BOUGHT JUST RECENTLY BOUGHT GOV HR ARE THE TWO LARGER NATIONAL FIRMS PRICE WISE. 
          UM, THE MGT WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER 'CAUSE THEIR PRICE LIKE DIDN'T INCLUDE TRAVEL COSTS FOR THEIR CONSULTANTS TO EVEN COME HERE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT, I MEAN, THAT'S GOTTA HAPPEN. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DON'T JUST INCLUDE THAT. 
          THAT WAS A LITTLE WEIRD. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, BECAUSE WERE THEY THE ONES THAT MORE FELT LIKE THEY WERE GONNA START OUT DOING EVERYTHING ON ZOOM AND NOT TRAVEL? YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND THEN, UM, THEY ALL KIND OF HAD SOME, UM, VIDEO INTERVIEW THING AS PART OF THE PROCESS AND, AND THEIR FEE WOULD'VE BEEN AN ADDED FEE TO DO THAT. 
          SO FROM A COST STANDPOINT, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE OTHER TWO OR WILL END UP BEING THAT WHEN YOU ADD INTO THOSE EXTRA COSTS. 
          WHEREAS GPS AND, UM, BAKER TILLY, THEIR, THEIR PROPOSED FEE WAS INCLUSIVE OF THEIR TRAVEL FOR THEIR, AND THESE VIDEO INTERVIEWS FOR THEM, EVERYTHING. 
          UH, AND IT'S PRETTY STANDARD IT LOOKS LIKE FOR, WE PAY FOR THE TRAVEL OF THE CANDIDATES OF THE CANDIDATES. 
          YES. 
          YEP. 
          BUT THE TRAVEL, THEIR CONSULTANTS TO COME PAYING FOR ALL OF IT. 
          YEAH. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          CANDIDATE TRAVEL IS ALWAYS RIGHT ON THE, ON THE AGENCY, SO TO SPEAK. 
          SO, UM, WELL, I'M, I LIKED THE ONE THAT JAY DEFINITELY DOES. 
          , I'LL BACK OFF OF THAT. 
          WELL, NO, I DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BACK OFF OF THAT. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I THINK THERE ANY OF 'EM ARE THAT MUCH BETTER OR THAT MUCH WORSE. 
          SO I'M FINE WITH WHATEVER THE MAJORITY WANTS. 
          I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH ANYBODY OVER THE FINAL CHOICE. 
          I JUST THINK I'M SO PLEASED THAT WE'RE GONNA CHOOSE A NATIONAL FIRM. 
          I HOPE SO. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PREFERENCE? WELL, I, WHEN I WENT THROUGH ALL OF IT, UH, BEFORE, PRIOR TO GETTING THIS, I ACTUALLY AGREED WITH KIRK AND APRIL. 
          AND THEN KRISTEN'S WAS A CLOSE SECOND ON GPS. 
          SO I, I WAS LEANING TOWARDS GPS, UM, FOR SEVERAL REASONS. 
          UM, I ACTUALLY LIKED THAT THEY WERE A LITTLE SMALLER, A LITTLE NIMBLE, MORE PERSONAL APPROACH. 
          I FELT LIKE IT WAS GONNA BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WOULD'VE GOTTEN WITH GARY AND M TEST ONLY HAD ADDED ON WHAT OTHER PEOPLE WANTED IN TERMS OF, UM, THE FURTHER REACH UTILIZING THEM AND THE, AND THE BACKGROUND CHECK AND EVERYTHING. 
          SO I FELT LIKE IT CHECKED ALL THE BOXES OF KIND OF A COMBINATION OF EVERYTHING WE WANTED. 
          NOW KIRK DID POINT OUT THAT ONE DRAWBACK THAT WHEN WE DISCUSSED THAT ONE FROM THAT IT'S SO SMALL IF SOMEONE HAD A PERSONAL ILLNESS OR FOR SOME REASON, WHICH HOPEFULLY WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I, I DON'T, I WOULDN'T LET THAT BE THE ONLY REASON, BUT OUR PLANS. 
          BUT YEAH, I LIKE FOR THE SAME REASONS YOU SAID I, I LIKE, AND THEY FOCUS PRIMARILY ON CITY MANAGERS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I LIKE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YEP. 
          STATISTICS I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THEIR VIDEOS, BUT THAT, I MEAN, WE CAN ALWAYS EDIT IF WE DON'T LIKE IT. 
          WELL, BECAUSE I THOUGHT SOME OF OUR CITY ONES WERE BETTER THAN THE ONE Y'ALL SHOWED US FROM THAT. 
          WELL, I THINK WHAT YOU SAW FROM THE SMYRNA ONE THAT I FORWARDED YOU JUST, THAT WAS JUST A, A CITY THAT WAS THE CITY OF SMYRNA VIDEO. 
          THAT WASN'T SOMETHING CREATED BY I WAS GONNA, IF THAT WAS THE FIRM'S NO, THAT NONE OF THESE ARE GONNA CREATE A VIDEO FOR YOU. 
          I FEEL BETTER THAN THAT. 
          YEAH, THEY, THEY'LL DO THAT CANDIDATE PROFILE 
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BROCHURE THING, BUT NOT A VIDEO. 
          YEAH. 
          DAN DAN'S POINT, I AGREE. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL FINDING, I THINK THREE EXCELLENT FIRMS THAT COULD CERTAINLY SEEM CAPABLE OF DOING THE BUSINESS. 
          UM, AND I ALSO AGREE FOR A LOT OF REASONS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS BRIEFINGS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A, A SEARCH FIRM. 
          SO I'M GLAD THAT, THAT WE HAVE SOME GOOD OPTIONS AND WE CAN MOVE AHEAD THIS WAY. 
          UM, IN TERMS, YOU KNOW, I, I'M OKAY WITH FRANKLY ALL OF 'EM AND UH, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT OKAY. 
          OF, OF THE THREE, WHAT COMPROMISE YOU PREFER OR WHAT STRENGTHS MIGHT THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, WITH, UM, WITH, WITH GOVERNMENT PROFESSIONAL SOLUTIONS GPSI MEAN, THEY'RE A SMALLER FIRM, BUT THAT ALSO WOULD MAKE US SOMEWHAT, AT LEAST IT SEEMS TO ME, TO MAKE US A SOMEWHAT BIGGER JEWEL IN THEIR CROWN, SO TO SPEAK. 
          YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY GOT THIS JOB, AND I THINK IT MIGHT GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, FOCUS FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET IT RIGHT, BUT THEY ARE SMALLER. 
          WERE, WERE LIKE BAKER TILLY, WHO I THINK ALSO DID BELL MEAD AND DID SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, BIG ONES. 
          WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE AS BIG A DEAL GETTING OUR BUSINESS. 
          BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY MAY HAVE A BETTER, A BIGGER, I DUNNO IF THE RIGHT WORD WOULD BE A STABLE OF POSSIBLE CANDIDATES THAT THEY'VE MET THROUGH OTHER ENGAGEMENTS. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE MORE FOLKS IN THEIR BACK POCKET AND A WIDER REACH JUST FROM THEIR ESTABLISHMENT AND THEIR RELATIONSHIPS FROM, FROM THEIR TRACK RECORD. 
          SO THEY MAY HAVE A STRENGTH THE GPS DOESN'T HAVE FROM THAT STANDPOINT, BUT REAL, REALLY, IT IS VERY HARD TO, TO SAY THERE'S AN ABSOLUTE BETTER CHOICE OF 'EM. 
          AND MGTI THINK WOULD DO A FINE JOB. 
          BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IN TERMS OF, THEY, THEY DON'T REALLY STRIKE ME AS HAVING A PARTICULAR ADVANTAGE OVER ONE OF THE OTHER TWO. 
          I JUST THINK IT IS MORE OF A CHOICE FOR US OF, DO WE WANNA BE A BIGGER PIECE OF THEIR ATTENTION TO THEIR BUSINESS OR WE'D RATHER HAVE A A, A COMPANY THAT MAYBE HAS A WIDER REACH OR BROADER RESOURCES. 
          IT SEEMS TO BE THE CHOICE, BUT I'M, I'M FINE WITH REALLY ANY OF THEM. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THE QUALITY WORK YOU PUT INTO THE RFP THAT WENT OUT. 
          UM, AND I THINK WE TOOK OUR TIME ON THAT AND MADE SURE THAT THE DATA WAS THERE, THAT, TO GET WHAT WE WERE SEEKING. 
          AND THEN THE RESPONSE TO THAT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T CONTROL THE RESPONSE, BUT THE RFP THAT WENT OUT WAS BROUGHT IN THREE QUALITY PEOPLE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEY ALL DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE DATA THE EXACTLY THE WAY WE ASKED FOR, ESPECIALLY THAT FIVE YEAR HISTORY. 
          BUT I'M SURPRISED THAT THEY DON'T BETTER TRACK THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 
          BUT NONE OF 'EM DO. 
          SO AT LEAST IT'S, YEAH. 
          SO, AND THEN LOOKING AT THE OVER THE PROPOSALS, UM, I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE POINTS. 
          I THINK A LOT HAS BEEN SAID, BUT I, I LIKE GPS AS WELL, SO I LOOKING THROUGH IT ALL AND I WON'T MENTION A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE SAID THAT I AGREE WITH. 
          UM, I LIKE PAPER TILL JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER POOL OF INITIAL CANDIDATES THAT THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND THEN THEY, THEY ALL IN AND THEIR PRICE WAS SET FROM ALL I COULD READ. 
          UNLESS, UNLESS THERE WAS SOME UNUSUAL THING. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK, I THINK BOTH GPS AND BAKER TILLY HAD HAD IT ALL IN PRICE. 
          NOW THAT PROBABLY I THINK INCLUDES A, AND ASSUME MAYBE THREE TRIPS HERE FOR A CONSULTANT. 
          SO IF WE HAVE FIVE TRIPS YEAH, MULTIPLE TRIPS YOU MIGHT HAVE, THEY MIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THE, THE ONE THAT WAS KIND OF AN HO CARTE, THAT KIND OF, YEAH, THAT WAS MT OTHERWISE I WAS, I WAS A LITTLE BIT FINE WITH THEM, BUT I THOUGHT THAT I THUMB NICKLE AND DMED. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          WHAT DID KEN AND MARK SAY? KEN, UM, FAVORED THE GPS, THE SMALLER FIRM. 
          KEN MARK, I THINK Y'ALL KNOW, DIDN'T, DOESN'T PREFER A FIRM, BUT HE RESPECTS THE, THE MARK OF THE, OR THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY, UH, AND SAID IF WE'RE GONNA USE ONE, HE TENDED TO LEAN TOWARDS GPS ALSO. 
          AND I THINK I'M FINE COMMUNICATING THAT. 
          UM, UM, CAN GARY, IF HE KIND OF ALREADY, HE INDICATED HE MIGHT HAVE ALREADY HAD PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO HIM, CAN HE PASS THAT INFORMATION ON TO WHOEVER WE CHOOSE OR TO US SO THAT WE CAN PASS IT ON TO AS FAR AS UH, PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY CANDIDATES? SORRY. 
          YEAH, THEY ALREADY, I THINK ONCE, ONCE WE GET TO THE POINT OF ADVERTISING, MTAS AS A WHOLE WILL HELP SPREAD THAT WORKFORCE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND I THINK THE ASSESSMENT HERE IS EXACTLY, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE FROM A BIG NATIONAL FIRM IS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE CANDIDATES THAT THEY'VE WORKED WITH AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, YOU'LL HAVE MULTIPLE PE YOU ONLY PROBABLY INTERACT WITH ONE PRIMARY CONSULTANT WITH EITHER OF 'EM, BUT WITH BAKER TILLY, THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE OTHER PEOPLE BEHIND THEM WHO MAYBE DOES SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK. 
          WHEREAS GPS WILL BE THAT ONE PERSON. 
          A COUPLE OF YOU HAD INDICATED TO ME THAT YOU LIKED GPS. 
          SO I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT IN ANTICIPATION OF QUESTIONS TO THE ASSIGNED CONSULTANT ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT ELSE DO YOU 
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HAVE ON THE, IN THE WORKS? 'CAUSE I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ONLY ONE PERSON, THEY DON'T WANT SOMEBODY IN. 
          AND HE INDICATED THAT HE ONLY HAS ONE OTHER ENGAGEMENT GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT WE WOULD BECOME HIS SECOND ONE IF WE WENT WITH THEM. 
          SO, UH, IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO YOU ALL THAT IT'S NOT A SMALL FIRM THAT'S OVERWORKED, SO TO SPEAK, UM, THAT WOULD J OUR CONTACT PERSON. 
          . 
          WE'LL CUT JAY OUT OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          YEAH. 
          JAY GET TO ASK THE QUESTION. 
          I NEED TO GO ON RECORD. 
          I THOUGHT GPS'S PROPOSAL WAS GREAT AND I DO THINK THEY'LL DO A FINE JOB. 
          I JUST, I WAS GRADING HEAVILY ON EXPERIENCE AND IT SHOWED IN MY SCORES . 
          SO, AND I AGREED WITH JAY. 
          I JUST WASN'T AS BRUTAL ABOUT TOO. 
          UM, NOW GPS HAS NOT DONE ANY WORK IN, IN TENNESSEE. 
          UM, AND TO NELSON'S POINT, I THINK THEY WOULD VIEW THIS AS A A, A PRETTY PLUM ASSIGNMENT AND I'M FEEL LIKE YOU WOULD GET ALL THE ATTENTION THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT AND WANT TO GET IF YOU WENT WITH THAT. 
          SO DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH CONSENSUS BASED ON I CONVERSATION? I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW THAT I THINK THERE'S CONSENSUS NOW. 
          SO THIS IS THE QUESTION IS THEIR PROPOSAL IS ACTUALLY 24,500, WHICH TECHNICALLY DOESN'T REQUIRE YOUR APPROVAL. 
          I JUST THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK IT DOES NEED TO BE, IT SHOULD BE APPROVED BY ALL. 
          AND THE REALITY IS WE MIGHT ASK YOU TO ACTUALLY APPROVE A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE IN CASE THERE'S SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO, WELL, IT HELPS TO GO IN AND FOR THE TRAVEL OF A FUTURE CANDIDATE, A POTENTIAL CANDIDATE, WE JUST GO IN AND KIND OF LUMP IT ALL IN WITH A SEPARATE WELL THAT WOULD, WE WOULD PAY THAT DIRECTLY WOULD SEPARATE. 
          WE WOULD PAY THAT TO NO, I KNOW, BUT, BUT WE COULD ACKNOWLEDGE IN THAT AGENDA ITEM THAT THESE WOULD BE AT THE ADDITIONAL COST GOING FORWARD. 
          YES. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE THAT ON YOUR JAN, JULY 8TH AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          COULD WE, THEY DID NOT TAKE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THE CONTRACT WE HAD IN THERE, SO IT SHOULD BE PRETTY QUICKLY, PRETTY EASY TO DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AS WE, I CAN SEE IT'S SAYING 24,000 TO THEM, BUT CAN WE HAVE A, LIKE A MISCELLANEOUS AMOUNT PUT IN THAT IF THERE'S SOME UNEXPECTED TRAVEL THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A MEETING TO GET. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE DO WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER CONTRACTS, WE ASK YOU FOR A, A KIND OF A CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE CONTRACT. 
          IT WON'T BE IN THEIR CONTRACTS WON'T NECESSARILY MADE OUT TO THEM. 
          NO. 
          IT'LL JUST BE YOU AUTHORIZE STAFF ANOTHER $5,000 OKAY. 
          OF MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSES AS DETERMINED. 
          BUT YOU ALL WOULD DECIDE, YEAH, WELL WE WANT AN EXTRA MEETING OR WE WANNA DO THIS OR THAT. 
          CANDIDATE TRAVEL WOULD EVEN BE IN ADDITION TO THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S WOULD BE IN APRIL'S BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL HAVE THAT ON YOUR JULY 8TH AGENDA. 
          JUST IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A BRIEFING MEETING ON THE THIRD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO COUPLE OTHER THINGS I WANNA DO THAT, UM, YES, THAT, I MEAN THAT'S ONE SCHEDULED. 
          I KNOW THERE MAY BE WHILE, DO WE REALLY NEED IT NOW? THE JULY 8TH AGENDA WILL HAVE THIS, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT REQUIRES MUCH MORE DISCUSSION, BUT THERE'S JULY 8TH AGENDA IS ALSO GONNA HAVE THE, YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE COUNTY GROWTH PLAN, WHICH MAY HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS TO IT THAT MAYBE YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE AT LEAST SOME OF THAT HERE AND NOT ALL ON THE FLOOR. 
          SO WE WERE STILL HOPING TO STILL HAVE A JULY 3RD BRIEFING. 
          IF, WHAT DAY IS THAT? WEDNESDAY. 
          SO WEDNESDAY. 
          OH, ON THE WEDNESDAY. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY THE FOURTH IS THE FOURTH IS THURSDAY. 
          NORMAL DAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT WOULD BE WEDNESDAY. 
          I MEAN, I'LL BE HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. 
          BUT HOW ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE? I MEAN, DON'T BE GOING THERE. 
          I CAN BE HERE. 
          NELSON, I THINK YOU, YOU MIGHT BE OUT OF TOWN THEN, HUH? YOU'RE OUT OF TOWN. 
          I'M BUT YOU'RE BACK FOR THE MEETING. 
          I'M, YEAH. 
          UM, SO WE'LL Y'ALL VOTE HERE THEN END JULY 3RD, RIGHT? I KNOW WEDNESDAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WHAT THAT DOES FOR YOU. 
          I'LL HAVE TO SEE. 
          ESPECIALLY THE DAY BEFORE THE 4TH OF JULY . 
          OH YEAH, YOU'RE BUSY. 
          I THINK THE GROWTH PLANS, THE GROWTH PLAN WOULD BE THE BIGGEST THING. 
          I THINK THERE, I MEAN, THERE'LL BE A FEW OTHER THINGS. 
          THE COUNTY VOTED ON THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THEN WE'RE VOTING ON WHAT THE COUNTY VOTED ON. 
          WELL, EVERYONE'S VOTING ON THE SAME THING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WILL BE THE SAME. 
          THE COORDINATING COMMITTEE IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, VOTED AND RECOMMENDED IT. 
          SO ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES THEN VOTE ON WHAT CAME OUT OF THE COORDINATING COMMITTEE. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE THE LAST ONES. 
          WE'LL BE THE LAST ONES. 
          YEP. 
          FAIRVIEW IS TONIGHT. 
          FAIRVIEW CONSIDERS IT TONIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE HAS VOTED TO RATIFY OR APPROVE IT UP TO THIS POINT. 
          SO, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT. 
          SO YES. 
          DON'T PUT ANY OF THESE AFTER AGENDA DISCUSSIONS ITEMS THAT DAY. 
          NO, WE WON'T. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP IT SIMPLE. 
          COULD BE IFFY. 
          THE ATTENDANCE. 
          UM, WELL, AND THE OTHER THING WE WOULD HAVE ON THAT AGENDA, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT, IS I SENT YOU AN EMAIL ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR US TO MAKE APPLICATION FOR A TDOT GRANT, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE, UH, THE COMMISSION TO FORMALLY VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THAT, UH, GRANT APPLICATION. 
          I DID NOT WANNA PUT THAT ON AN AGENDA UNLESS I FELT THAT THERE WAS, UH, A MAJORITY THAT WERE WILLING TO MAKE THAT APPLICATION. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY, BACK WHEN WE HAD THE ORIGINAL ENGINEERING DONE, WE, WE PAID ABOUT 300,000 OR SOMETHING FOR THAT. 
          SO WITH NEIL SCHAFER, IS THAT, DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? I DON'T REMEMBER THE DOLLAR. 
          AND THEN THIS GRANT WOULD BE FOR A SECTION OF THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT WAS THE DESIGN OF THE WHOLE WAY FROM CONCORD TO MURRAY. 
          AND THEY 
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ESTIMATED IT WAS GONNA BE 3 MILLION PLUS THREE. 
          3.3 MILLION. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          TO DO THAT. 
          SO, SO THIS WOULD BE JUST FROM CONCORD TO FOUNTAINHEAD. 
          OLDMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT WAS A MILLION, WELL, THE, THE MAXIMUM GRANT IS 1,000,001 25. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THEY COULD, IF WE GOT IT, THEY COULD CHOOSE TO GIVE ANY LEVEL, ANY AMOUNT WITHIN THERE? OR IS IT WELL, WE WOULD BE APPLYING FOR THAT AMOUNT. 
          OF COURSE THEY OFFERED LESS. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD EVEN BOTHER TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          RECOMMEND THAT YOU BOTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, IN FULL DISCLOSURE, WE DON'T. 
          AND NEIL SCHAFER WILL, WILL FIND, SO WE WOULD HAVE IT BEFORE YOUR JULY 8TH MEETING, BUT LET'S SAY IT WAS 3.3. 
          IT IS PROBABLY, I ASKED SARAH, CATHERINE THIS, THAT THIS HALF IS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE THAN THE HALF OF THE COST. 
          RIGHT. 
          ABOUT 74% JUST GOING BY TRAIL. 
          SO LET'S SAY THAT IS 1.7 TO 1.8 OR SO. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO IF YOU GOT A $1.1 MILLION GRANT, THE THE, THE REST OF IT WOULD, WOULD BE ON THE CITY TO COMMIT TO NEIL SCHAFER'S UPDATING, SORRY, UPDATING THEIR BUDGET. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE THOSE NUMBERS TO YOU AT THE JULY 8TH MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          THE, UM, COUPLE ASPECTS OF THIS ONE, IT'S UM, IT'S THE SAME GRANT WE'VE APPLIED FOR TWICE AND NOT GOTTEN, SO IF YOU ASKED ME WHAT'S OUR CHANCES, I'D PROBABLY SAY MAYBE A LITTLE LESS THAN 50 50. 
          IT'S ZERO IF WE DON'T APPLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO YOU GOT THAT PART OF IT. 
          TWO IS, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED. 
          TURNER AND THE SHAMBLIN PROPERTY. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE WHAT WE HAVE FROM THE OMAN SUBDIVISION. 
          'CAUSE IT'D BE ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU WOULD BE, UM, HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF HOPEFULLY WILLING PROPERTY OWNERS IF WE GOT IT AND MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND IS, ARE THOSE NUMBERS OF ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY IN NEIL SCHAFER'S ESTIMATE? YES. 
          THE RIGHT OF WAY IS, YEAH. 
          AND WE'RE ACQUIRING FROM THOSE TWO ABOUT 0.3 0.4 ACRES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'S, UM, BEEN RECENTLY, UM, COMPED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY'RE UPDATING THEIR BUDGET RIGHT NOW. 
          I WOULDN'T SAY THE COMPS ARE TOO RECENT, BUT YES, THAT WAS INCLUDED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO PROB THEY'RE UPDATING ALL OF THAT AND WE'LL HAVE MORE ACCURATE DETAILED NUMBERS THAT ARE, BUT, BUT THAT TODAY'S, IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT THE BIG, I MEAN IT'S THERE, BUT IT'S NOT THE, UH, IT'S NOT AN OVERRIDING PART OF THE COST TO BE, WOULD YOU SAY POINT A THIRD OF AN ACRE? YEAH, 0.4. 
          YEAH. 
          FOR, FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL OWNER. 
          TOTAL. 
          TOTAL, OKAY. 
          SO, I MEAN, WE'RE BARELY GOING OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING RIGHT AWAY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ACROSS TURNER. 
          THE CHALLENGE IS, UH, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF THAT THAT'S GOT PRETTY GOOD SLOPE DOWN TO IT'S A BACK FILL IT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEREAS FOR CROSS EMBL PROPERTY FENCE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH IN, IN, IN FRONT OF THE FENCE BETWEEN THE ROAD THAT EXISTS THERE TODAY, BUT IT'S NOT ALL RIGHT AWAY. 
          SO THE LESS IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY THAN MR. TURNER. 
          SO YOU'D END UP HAVING TO RELOCATE HIS FENCE AND PROBABLY BUILD OUT THAT SLOPE A LITTLE BIT. 
          THOSE KIND AND PROBABLY ADD A FENCE BECAUSE OF THE DROP OFF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRAILER. 
          WELL, THE FENCE IS THERE, YOU JUST HAVE TO REPLACE IT AS, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT A FENCE ALL THE WAY ALONG THERE. 
          SAFETY FENCE IS MY POINT FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE TRAIN. 
          GUARDRAIL SOME. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, OR WE PUT THE FENCE RIGHT AT THE BACK, BACK OF THE TRAIL. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE WOULD PAY FOR DAMAGES OF ANY, AND YEAH, WE WOULD PAY FOR DAMAGES FOR TAKING THAT FENCE, A TEMPORARY FENCE DURING CONSTRUCTION, THEN IT BACK UP. 
          SO THE FENCE WOULD BE ONE AND THE SAME. 
          A PROTECTIVE FENCE. 
          AND A BOUNDARY FENCE. 
          SO ON RAGSDALE WE'RE DOING A TEMPORARY FENCE WALL CONSTRUCTION'S HAPPENING. 
          IF THEY HAVE ANY WALL SHUT ANIMALS, LIVESTOCK, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE PUT UP A TEMPORARY FENCE AND THEN THE FENCE, FINAL FENCE GOES IN AT THE END. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WHERE WE HAVE, SO YOU, WHERE WE HAVE THOSE ISSUES LIKE ON FRANKLIN ROAD, YOU, YOU, IT'D BE A, THE SAME FOUR BOARD HORSE FENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          BEHIND ON THE OTHER, THE BACKSIDE OF THE TRAIL. 
          OKAY. 
          WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT ALLOW, YOU KNOW, HOW IT ALL LIES OUT, LIKE THAT KIND OF THING. 
          SO, SO YOU DO HAVE THAT ISSUE. 
          I KNOW HOW Y'ALL RELATIVE TO IF WE HAD TO CONDEMN PROPERTY, THAT WOULD BE THE POTENTIAL. 
          THAT'S ALWAYS THE, THE CHALLENGE WHEN WE DO, UH, POTENTIAL GRANTS LIKE THIS IS YOU GET THE GRANT AND THEN IF, AND YOU GOTTA ACQUIRE PROPERTY. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE PROPERTY, WE'D LIKE TO THINK BOTH WOULD SEE THE VALUE IN IT. 
          UM, BUT WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW. 
          MR. TURNER IN THE PAST HAS SAID, I'LL I'LL WORK WITH YOU. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. 
          AND UNTIL WE CAN GO TO THEM AND SAY, HERE'S EXACTLY THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY CAN'T. 
          SO IF WE GET THE GRANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS SAY, I'M NOT SELLING, WHAT HAPPENS, WHAT I THINK WE WOULD DO IS IF WE ACTUALLY GOT NOTICE OF AWARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CONTRACTING PART OF THAT WITH TDOT, PROBABLY AT THAT POINT, IF WE ACTUALLY GOT NOTICE OF AWARD, I'D THINK WE'D GO TALK TO BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE CONCEPTUALLY GOT PLANNED. 
          ARE YOU, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A APPRAISED OFFER TO GIVE YOU YET, BUT HERE'S THE IMPACT ON YOUR PROPERTIES. 
          ARE, DO YOU, ARE YOU THINK YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US WITH A MARKET VALUE APPROVAL? AND HOPEFULLY IF THEY BOTH SAID YES, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU SOME CONFIDENCE SURE. 
          AND IF TO GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THE GRANT. 
          AND IF THEY SAY NO, IF YOU SAID NO, IF THEY SAID NO, NO WAY, YOU'LL HAVE TO CONDEMN MY PROPERTY AND YOU ALL DON'T WANNA DO THAT, THEN I THINK WE WOULD JUST NOT EXACTLY. 
          NOT CONTRACT THE GRANT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH THE STATE WOULDN'T LIKE. 
          BUT TECHNICALLY 
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UNTIL YOU SIGN A CONTRACT WITH THEM, THERE'S NOTHING. 
          I JUST WONDERED HOW THAT WORKED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE THAT ON THE, THE JULY 8TH AGENDA. 
          UM, ALL THE EMAILS ON CHARITY DRIVE STUFF, TODD HAS DUG UP WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. 
          UH, IT IS A SLOPE ISSUE RELATIVE TO OUR STANDARDS. 
          UH, BUT UM, I'M GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SIT DOWN AND JUST TALK AND MAKE SURE WE'RE, UM, FAIRLY APPLYING THE RIGHT STANDARDS HERE. 
          IT CAN'T DO SPEED HUMPS 'CAUSE IT'S A COLLECTOR ROAD BECAUSE THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS SPEED TABLES. 
          UM, AND THEY KIND OF LOOKED AT IT FROM OUR SPEED HUMP STANDARDS RELATIVE TO SLOPES. 
          AND I JUST WANNA HAVE A DISCUSSION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VALID TO APPLY THOSE SAME SLOPE STANDARDS TO A SPEED TABLE TOO. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S THE ISSUE. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE SPOTS THAT YOU COULD DO, BUT IT'S AT THE TOP OF THE HILL. 
          I THINK THEIR MAIN CONCERNS IS MORE THE GO INTO DOWNHILLS AND AS YOU GO DOWNHILL INTO TRADITIONS, THAT THAT'S WAY TOO STEEP. 
          THERE'S NO QUESTION. 
          I THINK THE QUESTION WOULD BE IS AS YOU GO OUT TOWARDS SPLIT LOG, IT'S A LITTLE LESS STILL DOWNHILL, BUT A LITTLE LESS STEEP. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THAT AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW BACK UP WITH THEIR HOA. 
          CAN WE SIMILAR TO THE OTHER SIDE OF SPLIT LOG ON CHARITY BEING PAINTED THAT VISUAL, CAN WE YEAH, THAT'S THE STRIPING IF THEY WANT THAT. 
          SOME OF 'EM DON'T WANT, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T WANT THAT, BUT THAT'S AN OPTION IN OUR POLICY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THAT'S REALLY THE, THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE THE MM-HMM. 
           THE NARROWER LANES AND THE STRIPING IF THEY WANT THAT. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S CERTAINLY AVAILABLE. 
          WELL, I MEAN, IS THERE A REASON? I MEAN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE IT. 
          THE CITY COULD APPROVE TO STRIPE IT IF WE FEEL LIKE IT WOULD IF YOU WANT TO, BUT IF THEY DON'T WANT IT, YOU'LL, YOU'LL NEVER HEAR THE END OF IT ONCE IT'S DOWN. 
          SO I COULD JUST FROM EXPERIENCE, WE HAD ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE SOMERSET, IT INADVERTENTLY GOT DONE AND WE HAD TO GO BACK AND PAINT 'EM ALL BLACK BECAUSE OF THE UPROAR OF IT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          WHEN WE DID IT IN, IN LL UH, BRENT MEAD YEAH. 
          WE HAD KIND OF THE HLA ENDORSEMENT OF IT. 
          THERE WERE STILL SOME PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LIKE IT. 
          AND IF YOU RECALL, MAYBE REACHED OUT TO SOME OF YOU AND, AND, AND BEAT UP ON TODD FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS ABOUT THIS, I'M NOT GONNA LET THIS STAND. 
          YOU'RE GONNA TAKE HIM OUT OR WHATEVER. 
          SO I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND, WE JUST GO IN AND DO IT WITHOUT SOME, I'M NOT SAYING A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT. 
          SUPPORT, BUT AT LEAST SOMETHING FROM THE HOA AND WHATEVER ASKING US TO DO IT. 
          BUT THAT CERTAINLY IS AN OPTION. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WHETHER WE DID IT COULD BE YOU JUST CONTINUE THAT CENTER LINE STRIPE AND NOT DO THE WHITE EDGE STRIPES. 
          IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN THAT HILL, IT'S JUST REALLY EASY TO GO A LOT FASTER. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE YOU CAN SWING WIDE AND SO FORTH. 
          AND IF IT, AT LEAST THE YELLOW LINE CONTINUED, IT AT LEAST KIND OF FORCES YOU TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE STAY IN THERE. 
          I MEAN, WE WOULD SAY YOU'D WANNA DO BOTH BY, 'CAUSE THE WHITE LINES IS WHAT NARROWS IN. 
          MM-HMM MM-HMM. 
           THE DRIVING LANE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND BOTH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          THAT IS CERTAINLY ONE OF OUR, THE TIER ONE OPTIONS IN OUR YEAH. 
          ON KNOX VALLEY BY THE LIBRARY. 
          MM-HMM. 
           IN THAT CURVE. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK MADE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT THAT PICKY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE ARE HAPPY TO GET THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT. 
          AND IN OTHER PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT KIND OF, I IMPRINT ME, THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THING. 
          THIS HAS AT LEAST A SIDEWALK ON ONE OF THE TWO SIDES. 
          RIGHT. 
          I I, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND I WANNA BRING IT UP NOW, AND I DON'T EXPECT A, A RESPONSE TODAY, BUT I WANT Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT THIS. 
          EVERY SINGLE YEAR, MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR, WE GET THINGS FROM NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT SPEEDING CARS GOING THROUGH. 
          THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THE POLICE CAN DO. 
          I MEAN, THERE REALLY IS, IT FALLS BACK ON CITIZENS. 
          MOST OF 'EM ARE THEIR OWN NEIGHBORS CREATING THIS, SOME NEIGHBORS HOODS THAT WE GET 'EM FROM. 
          THERE IS NO THROUGH TRAFFIC. 
          IT'S ALL INTERNAL. 
          MM-HMM. 
           DOING THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES CITIES HAVE CAMPAIGNS AND I WHAT ABOUT A SAFE STREETS CAMPAIGN? YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE SIGNS THAT SAY, AND I'M, I'M OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WE HAVE TO HAVE SMARTER PEOPLE FIGURE OUT CAMPAIGNS. 
          BUT THINGS LIKE, UM, SLOW DOWN YOUR, YOUR CHILD'S LIFE IS AT STAKE. 
          SOME, YOU KNOW, YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOUR CHILD AND, AND SOME OF THESE VIDEOS WE DO AND, AND SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          I MEAN, I THINK, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH LAUNCHING A WHOLE CAMPAIGN TO MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER. 
          I REALLY DON'T BECAUSE WE CAN'T, CAN'T JUST KEEP SENDING POLICE THOSE SMART MACHINES FROM NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WELL THE PEOPLE THAT DO CUT THROUGH 'CAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DOES, YOU KNOW, JUST 'CAUSE OTHER CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND STREETS AND DEPENDS ON WHAT WRECK HAPPENS WHERE, OR WHATEVER. 
          SOMETIMES THE TRAFFIC'S MORE THE POLICE ARE EFFECTIVE FOR ABOUT THE FIRST DAY OR TWO. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE NEIGHBORS WHO GENERALLY GO FAST, SLOW DOWN FOR TWO DAYS AND THEN THEY REALIZE WHERE THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE BECAUSE OUR POLICE OFFICERS DON'T LIKE PUT CAMO OVER THE CAR AND TRY TO HIDE IN BEHIND 
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THE SIGN OR WHATEVER. 
          THEY USUALLY ARE VISIBLE. 
          UM, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO CUT THROUGH ALSO WILL, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL REALIZE. 
          AND ALL THESE APPS NOW, IF PEOPLE USE APPS, THEY ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE POLICE OFFICER'S THERE 15 MINUTES, IT'S ALL OVER. 
          YOU KNOW, POLICE OFFICER, HEAD, WHATEVER. 
          SO I AGREE. 
          OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS LIKE IN THEIR NEWSLETTER OR EMAILS OR WHATEVER, MENTIONS THAT FAIRLY CONSTANTLY ABOUT BE AWARE OF CHILDREN AND WHATEVER, ESPECIALLY AS WE GO IN THE WARMER MONTHS. 
          AND, AND SO I THINK THAT MIGHT THE CITY LED WITH THAT. 
          MAYBE SOME OF THE HOAS WILL LIKE, MAKE A REAL EMPHASIS OF IT. 
          THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP TODAY AFTER OUR EXPERIENCE AT THE CONCERT WITH THE LAW CHILD AND I EMAILED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CITY COMMISSIONERS AND MADE A SUGGESTION ABOUT A TEXTING NUMBER. 
          NOT ONE PERSON RESPONDED TO YOU OR ANYBODY, YAY, NAY, NOTHING. 
          SO I'M NOT, I'M TIRED OF BEING IGNORED. 
          I'M GONNA BRING IT UP AT A CITY COMMISSION MEETING. 
          THAT'S, SO THAT'S WHY I DID THIS. 
          NOW THERE, UM, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS MORE, NOT HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A STATE LAW CHANGED THIS YEAR OR LAST YEAR THAT ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SPEED ENFORCEMENT FINDS TO BE UP TO 500, I THINK. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE OUR OFFICERS TO TAKE THOSE TICKETS TO GENERAL SESSIONS COURT TO DO THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, WE WE'LL BE GLAD TO KIND OF BRING BACK A LITTLE MORE INFO ON THAT, BUT WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY. 
          WELL THAT ALL OF IT IS, THAT WOULD BE WHAT OUR, OUR PUSH WOULD BE. 
          THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE THE FIRST YEAR YOU DRIVING IS PAINTING. 
          CAN YOU GO AND, AND CONTACT SOMEBODY WITH THE HOA AND START THAT PROCESS TO SEE IF THEY'RE EVEN INTERESTED IN DOING THAT? WELL, YEAH. 
          I MEAN I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL WRAP THAT ALL INTO A MEETING WITH THEM IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO OR SOMETHING. 
          OR AT LEAST SOME CONTACT WITH THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          WHETHER WE WERE ABLE TO MEET BY THAT. 
          I SHOULD HAVE EMAILED TODD AND I DIDN'T WHEN I DROVE IT. 
          CAN YOU MAYBE REACH OUT TO HIM THE, WHEN YOU COME OUT OF, WHEN YOU'VE BEEN IN LOCHMERE AND YOU'RE COMING OUT ON, UM, CHARITY, THERE'S SOME BUSHES TELL ME YEAH. 
          THAT THERE'S A BUSH. 
          YEAH. 
          IF HE, IF HE CAN SEE IF, IF IT'S, IF THAT'S IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY AND WE NEED TO TRIM IT OR IF THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT'S RIGHT. 
          REAL CLOSE THE INFORMATION. 
          I MEAN OUR POLICY, EVEN IF IT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, OUR POLICY IS TO ASK THEM TO DO IT. 
          'CAUSE IF WE DO IT, THEY WON'T LIKE THE WAY WE DO IT. 
           CAN YOU? BUT IF THEY DON'T DO IT, WE WOULD. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU? YEAH. 
          IN ADDITION TO ALL THESE OTHER THINGS SINCE WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT, IT WAS HARD TO SEE PULLING OUT. 
          YEAH, I HEARD THAT FROM I THINK COMMISSIONER SPEARS YESTERDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I WILL SAY THAT I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING A CAMPAIGN AND JUST SOCIAL MEDIA JUST ING, AND I'M NOT SAYING IGNORE THE STRIPING AND STUFF THAT'S NOT GIVEN NO, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT. 
          BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, SOMETHING, JUST A REMINDER, CHARLES HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THESE DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS AND JUST ADDING THAT TO THE, TO THE ROTATION IS JUST A REGULAR REMINDER I THINK IS, IS A POSITIVE. 
          THEY DID OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE, IN THE SUMMERS, WE GET MORE PEOPLE GOING PRETTY FAST ALONG HARPER RIVER DRIVE BECAUSE OF THE POOL. 
          LITERALLY ALMOST EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THERE. 
          THAT'S THOSE LITTLE GUYS, BUT THE LITTLE, LITTLE SIGNS THAT SAYS CHILDREN PLAYING IT WORKED. 
          IT DID. 
          IT DID. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THEY WERE INTENTIONAL ABOUT IT AND, AND THEY WERE THEIR OWN MINI CAMPAIGN INSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WORKED. 
          OH, I AGREE. 
          I THINK IT DOES WORK. 
          SO IT MAY NEED TO BE MORE LOCAL DRIVEN WITH INFORMED, LIKE THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT YOU COULD GET A $500 SPEEDING TICKET IF YOU WERE SPEEDING IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, NEW STATE LAW, JUST INFORMATION. 
          BUT FOR THAT STATE LAW TO APPLY, YOU ALL HAVE TO TAKE ACTION. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS CREEPY THAT I CANNOT REMEMBER IF THAT WAS THE SESSION OR LAST MEETING. 
          IT'S ALL, IT ALL BURST TOGETHER. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO DEVELOP A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH TO MAKING OUR STREETS SAFER, STRIPING THE STATE LAW THING, THE, UH, GETTING IT OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          WHAT CAN WE REASONABLY DO AND NOT DO? YOU KNOW, GIVE US SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THERE'S BOUND TO BE SOME CREATIVE PERSON IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO COULD REALLY DO A GOOD JOB AT PULLING THIS TOGETHER ALONG WITH CHARLES. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE A TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE REVISITED. 
          UM, BUT SPEAKING FOR TODD, I KNOW SOME OF HIS FRUSTRATION IS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WHETHER IT'S LIKE THIS CAMPAIGN OR AFTER THE ACCIDENT IN BRENT MEAD MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YOU GET A BUNCH OF INQUIRIES AND, AND HE'LL DO A BUNCH OF WORK AND THEN WE HAND IT TO THE HOA AND YOU HEAR NOTHING FOR A YEAR OR TWO AND IT, IT, THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORT FOR NO RESULTS BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THERE'S NO CONSENSUS ON THEIR END OF THINGS. 
          THINGS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, MM-HMM. 
          , IF YOU TALK TO TODD, HE SEEMS A LITTLE BIT, UH, SKEPTICAL. 
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THAT'S WHY I JUST GIVE YOU THAT HEADS UP. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO. 
          WELL, AND IT MAY, IF YOU START WITH THE HOA ABOUT JUST SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS PAINTING AND IF YOU GET ENOUGH RESISTANCE, THEN PROBABLY ANYTHING ELSE WE WOULD DO MIGHT GET RESISTANCE TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          SOME OF THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I DISAGREE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S CLEARLY THE FIRST STEP IN OUR POLICY IN TERMS OF APPLYING IT. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S IT. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          NOW WHO'S SETTING UP THIS SCREEN FOR MONDAY NIGHT.
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