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GOOD? ALL RIGHT.[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing April 4, 2024 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the April 8th Agenda, the below item will be discussed: Presentation from UT-MTAS Representative regarding City Manager recruitment process This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
KNOW, WE'VE GOT CIP REVIEW AFTER THIS.UM, SO WE'LL TRY TO BE DONE BY 10, IF NOT FOUR.
WE'LL RESET THE ROOM REAL QUICK AFTER WE'RE DONE HERE.
UM, AT YOUR LAST BRIEFING, Y'ALL STARTED THE LITTLE DISCUSSION ABOUT CITY MANAGER RECRUITMENT PROCESS.
UM, AND AT THE END OF THAT, I THINK THERE WAS A DISCUSSION KIND OF IN SIMPLEST TERMS, KIND OF THREE OPTIONS.
ALL IN-HOUSE, HIRE AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM, OR TENNESSEE.
WE'RE LUCKY WITH THE OPTION OF UTM TASKS WHO CAN DO, UH, COME IN AND ASSIST IN, IN PART OF THAT RECRUITMENT PROCESS.
SO YOU ALL HAD ASKED IF WE COULD GET SOMEONE FROM MTAS TO KIND OF COME IN AND DISCUSS WHAT THEIR SERVICES THEY OFFER.
UH, AND SO WE REACHED OUT TO THEM.
AND SO THIS MORNING WE HAVE HANNAH ROGERS HUNTER, IF YOU WANNA COME UP.
UM, HANNAH IS A MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT.
MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT.
UH, OUT OF THE CHATTANOOGA OFFICE, UM, I THINK JAY MENTIONED OUR, OUR MANA.
EACH REGION OF THE STATE HAS A MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT ASSIGNED TO IT.
OURS RECENTLY TOOK A JOB AS THE ASSISTANT CITY ADMINISTRATOR IN NOLANSVILLE.
AND SO, UM, WHEN I REACHED OUT TO MTAS HANA, WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR, WITH SEVERAL CITIES DOWN AROUND CHATTANOOGA, WAS THE, UH, ASSIGNED PERSON.
SO SHE'S COME UP TO TALK US A LITTLE BIT.
THEY HAD PUT TOGETHER A, A LITTLE BIT OF A A OR A PROPOSAL, I GUESS THEY CALLED IT.
I'VE GOT HARD COPIES OF THAT IF ANYBODY NEEDS IT.
BUT I'VE ASKED HANNAH JUST TO KIND OF 10 OR 15 MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY DO, HOW THEY DO, WHAT THEY DON'T DO RELATIVE TO SEARCHES.
AND THEN YOU ALL CAN ASK HER QUESTIONS AND UM, AND GO FROM THERE.
BUT SHE MAY GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTRO OF JUST WHAT IS MTAS AND ALL THAT, SINCE SOME OF YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT.
SHOULD WE WAIT TILL THE END FOR QUESTIONS? HOW DO YOU WANT? THAT'S FINE.
I'VE BEEN WITH MTAS FOR 11 YEARS NOW.
UH, PRIOR TO THAT I WAS THE CITY MANAGER IN SIGNAL MOUNTAIN, TENNESSEE.
AND I WANNA TELL YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MTAS.
WE WERE FOUNDED IN 1949 BY THE STATE TO HELP CITIES, AND THAT'S OUR MISSION TO MAKE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BETTER.
SO, AS KIRK SAID, WE HAVE MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
WE'RE ALL FORMER CITY MANAGERS, AND WE'RE KIND OF A POINT OF CONTACT FOR CITIES.
AND, UM, THEN WE HAVE TECHNICAL CONSULTANTS.
WE HAVE HUMAN RESOURCES, PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC SAFETY UTILITIES, WE HAVE ATTORNEYS ON STAFF.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY WE OFFER TRAINING TO CITIES.
ALMOST ALL OUR SERVICES ARE AT NO COST, ASIDE FROM TRAINING AND SOME MORE EXTENSIVE STUDIES SUCH AS A UTILITY RATE STUDY OR SOMETHING.
BUT MOST OF OUR SERVICES COME, UM, JUST AS A SERVICE TO YOU BACK TO TENNESSEE.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MTAS IS.
IT'S, IT'S A VERY BRIEF DISCUSSION FOR A LOT OF HOURS THAT ARE PUT IN EVERY YEAR TO SERVE CITIES.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
WE REALLY COME OUT TO CITIES AND THAT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL TO OTHER STATES.
UM, IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIND A COMPARABLE TO MTAS AT OTHER PLACES.
BUT I DID PROVIDE YOU A PROPOSAL, UM, ON WHAT WE CAN OFFER IN THE SEARCH PROCESS.
JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT PROPOSAL WITH YOU AND TALK ABOUT IT.
DOES ANYBODY NEED A, HAS ANYBODY GOT ONE? NOT PROBLEM, MAN.
SO MAY I USE YOUR AND DO YOUR THING? IS THAT OKAY? ALRIGHT.
SO THE FIRST THING WE DO IS WE, WE HELP YOU DECIDE WHO YOU WANT TO HIRE.
AND BRENTWOOD HAVE REALLY HAD SOME CONTINUITY BETWEEN MIKE WALKER AND KIRK THAT YOU'VE NOT HAD TO DO SEARCHES VERY OFTEN.
BUT IT'S, ONE THING WE DO IS WE MEET WITH BOARD MEMBERS, IF YOU LIKE, AND WE DETERMINE WHAT IT IS YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR.
WHAT ARE THE COMPETENCIES IN A PROFESSIONAL LIKE TYPE OF CHARACTERISTICS.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT GOES INTO HIRING A MANAGER AND JUST WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE ON A RESUME.
SO WE KIND OF HELP YOU IDENTIFY THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND THEN WE ALSO WORK WITH JUST LOOKING AT THE CHARTER, THE CODES, ANYTHING TO HELP PUT TOGETHER.
YOU ALL ALSO HAVE A REALLY GOOD IN-HOUSE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, SO THEY CAN HELP WITH A LOT OF THAT AS WELL.
UM, WE WILL THEN HELP WITH ANY ADVERTISING IF NEEDED.
AGAIN, BEING A LARGER CITY, YOU PROBABLY DON'T NEED SOME OF THIS ASSISTANCE 'CAUSE YOU CAN DO SOME OF THIS.
CAN I GO BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT, DETERMINING WHAT YOU NEED WITH THE CITY MANAGER? YES.
UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS SITTING AROUND THIS ROOM.
IS THERE ANY CONVERSATION WITH THEM THAT YOU GUYS MAKE TO HELP YOU? WE DO THAT IN SOME CITIES, YES.
SO SOMETIMES WE'LL BE WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AS WELL AND PUT THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AND KEEP IN MIND YEAH, WELL WHAT SHE'S IS THE GENERAL, BUT YOU ALL WILL KIND OF DRIVE WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO IF THAT'S WHO YOU GO WITH.
AND I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE, HOPEFULLY THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND PART OF THAT IS NOT JUST, AS YOU'LL SEE LATER COME IN, IT'S NOT JUST FOR THIS BEGINNING PHASE OF IT.
WE TAKE ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS AND THAT ROLLS INTO
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THE TYPES OF INTERVIEW QUESTIONS WE WRITE AND THE TYPES OF THINGS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE ACTUAL INTERVIEW PROCESS.I'M SORRY, MY VOICE GETS SHAKY.
I HAVE A LUNG CONDITION THAT MAKES ME SHORT OF BREATH.
SO PEOPLE, I'M NOT AFRAID OF Y'ALL.
I'M LIKE, I THINK PEOPLE START THINKING I'M AFRAID OF THEM.
WOULD YOU LIKE A CHAIR WITH THAT? NO MA'AM.
SO THEN WE CAN ALSO REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND RESUMES TO DIVIDE THOSE INTO QUALIFIED, NOT QUALIFIED FOR YOU.
I WOULD EXPECT YOU MIGHT GET A GOOD MINI RESUMES HERE.
I JUST DID A SMALLER CITY SEARCH AND THERE WE HAD 40 RES, 40 SOMETHING RESUMES, WHICH CAN BE A LOT TO READ THROUGH AND GO THROUGH.
SO WE CAN DIVIDE THOSE INTO QUALIFIED, NOT QUALIFIED HANA QUESTION.
AND THE SEARCHES Y'ALL DO, DO MO DO YOU HAVE THE APPLICATIONS COME TO YOU OR DO THEY GO TO THE CITY AND THEN THE CITY TRANSFERS? WHAT'S, IS IT BOTH SO OFTEN IT'S KIND OF THE DEFAULT AS IT GOES TO THE CITY AND THEY SHARE A COPY.
I DO HAVE TIMES WHERE THE BOARD PREFERS THEY COME TO US AND SO WE'LL RECEIVE ALL THE COPIES OUT, WE'LL RECEIVE 'EM ALL IN MY AREA AND THEN DISTRIBUTE 'EM TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
GIVEN THAT, UH, 'CAUSE WE'VE HEARD SOME PROS AND CONS BOTH WAYS.
SINCE YOU ARE A PUBLIC AGENCY, AT WHAT POINT DO THE APPLICATIONS THAT YOU RECEIVE, ARE THEY AVAILABLE FOR THE OPEN RECORDS ACT WHERE PEOPLE CAN REQUEST NAMES OF WHO'S APPLIED TO YOU? SO THEY COULD REQUEST A, A COPY OF THE RESUMES THROUGH US IN THE GET GO? I HAVE NEVER HAD IT HAPPEN.
THEY COULD, UM, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY PROCESS THOUGH.
LIKE THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE AND REQUEST IT.
SO AS SOON AS YOU, IT'S NOT AN EASY, IT'S NOT A QUICK PROCESS.
THAT NAME WOULD BE PUBLIC IF SOMEONE REQUESTED IT, THE APPLICATION WOULD BE YES.
LIKE THEY COULDN'T CALL AND ASK FOR A LIST OF NAMES.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO REQUEST IT.
SO DOES THAT INCLUDE INQUIRIES ABOUT THE POSITION OR DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO FORMALLY APPLY TO IT BEFORE IT BECOMES PART OF YOUR OPEN RECORDS? THEY'D HAVE TO FORMALLY APPLY.
BUT THAT MEAN THAT'S THE SAME THING AS IF YOU RECEIVED A RESUME THAT'S AN OPEN RECORD.
YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY IF YOU'RE HOLDING A COPY, UT AND AGAIN, WE HAVE AN OPEN RECORDS PROCESS THAT THEY FILL OUT AND UT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BURDENSOME TO GET, BUT IT'S STILL AVAILABLE.
I HAVEN'T, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT I, I WOULDN'T SAY IT COULD.
WE HAVE HAD RECORDS REQUESTED, BUT NOT IN THAT WAY, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON? OKAY.
HOW MANY OF THESE SEARCHES HAVE YOU CONDUCTED, SAY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS? YOU KNOW, MTS WIDE, I'M NOT SURE I CAN SAY PERSONALLY.
I'VE DONE PROBABLY SIX IN THE LAST TWO YEARS JUST IN MY TERRITORY.
AND IT RESULTED IN HIRINGS YES.
SO SIX PROCESSES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THAT'S JUST IN MY AREA AND I'M ONE OF NINE.
UM, TELL TELL WHERE I LIVE IN HAMILTON COUNTY HAD A HOT RUN ONE YEAR AND WE'VE LOST LIKE FOUR MANAGERS.
SO CAN YOU TELL US WHAT CITIES THEY WERE? YES, MA'AM.
I PERSONALLY, I'VE DONE COLLEGEDALE, RED BANK, LAKESIDE, TOHO, UM, CLEVELAND'S CLEVELAND WAS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
UM, CLEVELAND'S PROBABLY THE LARGEST ONE BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT 50,000 THAT I'VE DONE.
BUT WE HAVE DONE SEARCHES UP IN THE TRI-CITIES AREA AND OKAY, THANK YOU.
WHEN YOU GET TO THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, THAT'S WHERE IT REALLY STARTS BECOMING VERY SPECIALIZED TO WHAT THE CITY WANTS.
CLEARLY YOU'D HAVE A A COMMISSION WIDE INTERVIEW THAT ALWAYS HAPPENS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF SOME CITIES CHOOSE TO USE CITIZEN PANELS TO DO SOME INTERVIEWS.
DO YOU MEAN AS A GROUP OR YES.
OH, SO WE CAN LEGALLY DO THAT.
I'D HATE TO BE THE APPLICANT AROUND MOST, I MEAN, I INTERVIEWED IN FRONT OF 50 PEOPLE ONCE.
IT'S JUST, AND THE PRESS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE INQUISITION
AND SO YOU HAVE AION WIDE, THAT'S A PUBLIC INTERVIEW.
YOU CAN MEET ONE-ON-ONE IN INTERVIEWS.
AND THEN ONE THING THAT A LOT OF CITIES ELECT TO DO IS WHAT WE CALL AN ASSESSMENT CENTER.
THAT IS WHERE THERE IS A PANEL OF CITY MANAGERS WHO INTERVIEW THEM AND PUT THEM THROUGH SOMETIMES, UM, IN ADDITION TO INTERVIEW OTHER EXERCISES, ALL BUILDING OFF OF THOSE COMPETENCIES AND CHARACTERISTICS YOU ALL GAVE IN THE FIRST ROUND.
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD STEP BECAUSE IT ALLOWS OTHER CITY MANAGERS TO SPEAK INTO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING AND GIVE YOU A, WHAT I SAY IS YOU WANT AS MANY TOOLS IN YOUR TOOLBOX AS YOU CAN GET WHILE
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YOU'RE SELECTING SOMEONE.SO ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS WE OFFER ARE JUST LITTLE THINGS YOU PUT TOGETHER.
YOU DON'T WANNA HIRE SOMEONE BASED ON JUST AN INTERVIEW OR JUST AN ASSESSMENT CENTER OR JUST AN ASSESSMENT TEST THEY TAKE IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT 'EM ALL TOGETHER TO FIND THE RIGHT APPLICANT.
SO THAT'S ONE THING WE OFFER AS WELL AS FACILITATING THAT.
AND THEN ALSO RECEPTION WITH CITIZENS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ENJOY DOING THAT.
AND THAT WAY IT'S A LITTLE MORE LOOSE AND, UM, NOT LOOSE.
A LITTLE MORE, UH, JUST RELAXED ENVIRONMENT.
YOU CAN TALK TO SOMEONE AND GET TO KNOW THEM.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ASSESSMENT CENTER? 'CAUSE THAT ONE I KIND OF BREEZED THROUGH, BUT, OKAY.
I MEAN, JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, HOW INVOLVED THE PROCESS IS THAT AND HOW ARE THE CITY MANAGERS SELECTED? ARE THEY FROM I GUESS PURE CITIES SO TO SPEAK? OR ARE THEY JUST CITY MANAGER MANAGERS THAT HAVE AN AFTERNOON AVAILABLE FROM ACROSS THE REGION OR
SO THEY DO GO THROUGH TRAINING.
WE DON'T MAKE THAT PUBLIC UNTIL AFTER THE INTERVIEW PROCESS WHO THEY ARE.
I MEAN, AFTER THEY HAVE THE ASSESSMENT CENTER MM-HMM.
AND THEN YOU ALL RECEIVE A REPORT FROM IT THAT TELLS YOU THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEY'RE NOT RECOMMENDING SOMEONE, THEY'RE SCORING THEM AND YOU'RE SEEING THOSE SCORES BASED ON THAT.
SO REALLY THE WITHIN
SO FOR PREVIOUS ONES THAT YOU'VE DONE OR OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE, WOULD Y'ALL SAY THAT YOU GET APPLICANTS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY OR MORE JUST WITHIN TENNESSEE SINCE Y'ALL ARE UT YEAH, SO LIKE MOST OF OURS COME FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY BECAUSE OF POSTING ON ICMA, THE INTERNATIONAL CITY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION.
SO WHAT I HAVE SEEN RECENTLY IN CITIES ARE THEY ARE MOSTLY COMING FROM OUTTA STATE VERSUS IN-STATE.
THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT M TEST DOES NOT DO IS WE ARE NOT MAJOR RECRUITERS.
WE, WE WILL GO AND RECRUIT WITHIN THE STATE, BUT WE DO NOT GO REALLY OUTSIDE OF THE STATE.
SO IF YOU WANT THAT ASPECT OF IT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN'T OFFER.
BUT THOSE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE STATE MAYBE LEARN ABOUT IT THROUGH THE IC THROUGH THAT INTERNATIONAL.
I MEAN IF THEY ARE JOB SEARCHING OR IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT AN EMAIL AND CA YES.
WELL, YOU MENTIONED ICMA THOUGH.
UH, THAT'S, I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN OUT OF STATE OR ORGANIZATION.
SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU DON'T GO OUT OF STATE, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DO IN A WAY WE ADVERTISE.
WHAT I MEAN IS WE DON'T, WE DON'T MAKE CALLS TO PEOPLE OR LIKE SAY, YOU KNOW, OH, I SEE ALLISON, SHE'S A GREAT PERSON.
WE'RE GONNA GO RECRUIT ALLISON FOR
OR LIKE THE EMAIL I SENT YOU ALL, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, THEY, THEY WOULD NOT GO OUT AND PROACTIVELY REACH OUT AND CONTACT PEOPLE RIGHT.
THAT ARE KIND OF IN THEIR NETWORK.
THAT'S WHAT THEY WE'RE MORE JUST ADVERTISING.
BUT THE ICMA IS THE NATIONAL JOB BOARD, SO TO SPEAK FOR CITY MANAGERS.
SO, SO REALLY KIND OF THE, THE DIFFERENCE MIGHT BE YOU ALL GO OUT AND ADVERTISE IN PLACES THAT SOMEBODY LOOKING FOR A JOB ACTIVELY MIGHT LOOK WHERE SOME PROFESSIONAL RECRUITERS MIGHT GO OUT AND APPROACH QUALIFIED PEOPLE.
IF YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB, THEY MIGHT NOT LOOKING FOR A JOB.
SAY, HEY, HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF BROWNWOOD? CORRECT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER IN THAT DOING IT THIS WAY AND A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PROFILE PROSPECT.
BUT YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS WHEN M TENNIS ADVISED THE CITY, THEY'VE BEEN VERY THOROUGH.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME.
DENNIS, WHO WAS THERE FOR YEARS AND WORKED WITH HIM WITH OFF AND ON.
WHAT WAS HIS LAST NAME? DENNIS? HUFFER.
HE WAS SO NICE AND SO HELPFUL.
UM, IN LOOKING AT THIS, I, I DO STILL LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING GOING NATIONALLY, BUT I LOVE, I WOULD LOVE HAVING Y'ALL ON THE FRONT END.
I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE DON'T QUITE KNOW HOW TO PULL IT ALL TOGETHER.
I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL SERVICE.
UH, AND YOU SAID YOU COULD DO ALL OR PART OR WHATEVER.
WE'RE HAPPY TO DO AS LITTLE OR AS MUCH AS YOU'D LIKE US TO DO.
AND WE CAN ALSO DO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO HIRE A FIRM AND YOU MEET WITH THEM AND YOU SEE THAT THERE'S MAYBE SOMETHING YOU WANTED THAT THEY'RE NOT OFFERING, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM ON.
SO, I I MAY BE JUMPING AHEAD A LITTLE BIT.
AND I'M HAPPY TO WAIT IF I NO, GO AHEAD.
SO I, I, I KNOW SOMETHING THAT COMES UP AT TIMES WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT PROFESSIONAL FIRMS IS THEY DON'T WANT TO GET A PROFESSIONAL FIRM THAT'S JUST LOOKING FOR A COMMISSION.
THEY WANT TO GET A PROFESSIONAL FIRM THAT IS INTERESTED IN FINDING A, A BEST MATCH FOR THE JOB THAT, THAT STAYS
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IN POSITION FOR A LONG TIME.UM, SO, YOU KNOW, ONE THAT LIKE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO CAST A LARGER NET, YOU KNOW, AND TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT ACTIVELY BE SEARCHING FOR JOBS, THOSE WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE OPPORTUNITY ALL THE SAME.
GETTING THE RIGHT RECRUITER CAN BE A, A BIG DEAL.
IS THAT PART OF THE SERVICE Y'ALL PROVIDE? DO Y'ALL EVER LIKE, HELP EITHER DO RFPS TO QUALIFY RECRUITERS OR THE GOOD REPUTATION OR WOULD YOU ASSIST OUR SARAH HR DEPARTMENT OR SOMEBODY AND COMING UP WITH A POOL OF, OF QUALIFIED RECRUITERS AND NOT RECRUITERS THAT ARE JUST LOOKING FOR COMMISSIONS? I MEAN, WE COULD CERTAINLY HELP WITH OTHER, OTHER CITIES RECRUITERS AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION REFERENCE THINK OAK BRIDGE DID RECENTLY.
SO I MEAN WE CAN CERTAINLY HELP WITH PLACES THAT HAVE DONE IT RECENTLY.
WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP REVIEW ANY DOCUMENTS OR EVEN WHATEVER ASSISTANCE YOU NEED IN SELECTING MM-HMM.
JUST, AND, AND ALONG THOSE LINES, LIKE WITH THE ROLE IN TERMS OF RECRUITING IN STATE, BUT WITH THE SUPPORT Y'ALL GIVE CITY MANAGERS IN CITIES, HOW DO YOU MITIGATE THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST OF WORKING WITH CITIES AND GETTING TO KNOW THESE CITY MANAGERS AND POSSIBLY RECOMMENDING OR RECRUITING THEM OUT OF THAT CITY TO ANOTHER CITY? RIGHT.
I'VE DONE THAT ACTUALLY AND RECRUITED A CITY MANAGER FROM ANOTHER CITY.
UM, I THINK IT'S ALSO KNOWING WHAT'S THE BEST FIT FOR THOSE DIFFERENT CITIES.
AND AS PEOPLE GROW IN THEIR CAREER, SOMETIMES THAT'S A STEP UP.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BAD THING ALWAYS THAT PEOPLE MOVE UP IN THEIR CAREER OR FIND A BETTER FIT.
I ALWAYS SAY CITIES HAVE PERSONALITIES AND WE, WE WORK IN THE CORRECT IN THE PERSONALITIES THAT FIT US.
AND THAT'S WHY WE LIVE IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
SO I DON'T FIND IT A CONFLICT IF WE'RE, IF I WAS CONSTANTLY GOING AND PLUCKING PEOPLE AND TRYING TO MOVE THEM.
BUT SOMETIMES YOU JUST SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE A GOOD FIT FOR A CITY AND IT WOULD BE A GOOD GROWTH POINT IN THEIR CAREER.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S, JUST TO CLARIFY AND CLARIFY, THEN WE COME HELP THE CITY REPLACE
SO THEY'RE, BECAUSE IT'S ON THEIR WEBSITE, I BELIEVE IT GOES OUT IN SOME EMAILS OR IT IS ALWAYS SHOWING THERE ARE JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
THERE'S A BIWEEKLY E-NEWSLETTER.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER NOW, NOT ALL CITY MANAGERS ARE
SO WE GET, I THINK IT'S AN EVERY TWO WEEK NEWSLETTER ABOUT ISSUES AND ALL THAT.
BUT AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT NEWSLETTER IS ALWAYS THE LISTING OF JOB POSTINGS.
AND I TYPICALLY, I DO THIS, I SEND IT TO THE SURROUNDING, LIKE I'LL SEND IT OUT TO NORTH CAROLINA AND GEORGIA AND SOME OF THOSE CITY, THOSE STATES ARE REALLY GOOD AT KIND OF SENDING IT OUT IN EMAILS TO ALL OF THEIR MEMBERS FOR US.
BUT WITHIN YOUR OWN KIND OF EQUIVALENT COUNTERPART IN WELL, OR THE CITY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION IN THAT STATE, LIKE NORTH CAROLINA HAS A REALLY STRONG ONE AND THEY'LL SHARE THAT WITH THEIR MEMBERS.
WE HAVE A TENNESSEE CITY MANAGEMENT, SO WE HAVE OUR OWN TENNESSEE NEWSLETTER.
SO ANY JOB OPENINGS ALSO COME THAT WAY.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.
THE NORTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA, ALL THOSE STATE ASSOCIATIONS.
AND SO WE TYPICALLY WILL JUST ALSO PUSH IT OUT TO KIND OF SURROUNDING STATES, JUST KIND OF THEN GROWTH.
JUST A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE ALTHOUGH I, I REALLY DON'T THINK YOU'LL HAVE ANY ISSUE ATTRACTING PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF NICE TOO SOMETIMES TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE MAY BE A LITTLE CLOSER TO HOME THAT MIGHT NOT BE LOOKING AS MUCH.
WHAT DO YOU SEE AS OUR, UM, ATTRACTIVE QUALITIES IN THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD? I THINK YOU'RE A WELL RUN CITY AND I THINK THAT'S VERY APPEALING.
I THINK WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT YOU HAVE LONG CONTINUITY AND CITY MANAGERS, THAT'S APPEALING THAT SOMEONE CAN STAY FOR A TIME.
I THINK YOU'RE IN AN AREA THAT'S JUST A LITTLE POPULAR NASHVILLE
I THINK THAT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE.
I'M PRESUMING THAT A CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND A CITY MANAGER, EVEN THOUGH THEIR CHARTERS ARE DIFFERENT, BASICALLY A CITY ADMINISTRATOR COULD STEP INTO THE JOB TOO, JUST AS EASILY, EVEN THOUGH HE'S USED TO DEALING WITH HIS GOVERNING BODY IN A DIFFERENT MANNER.
IT'S JUST KIND OF A NAME DIFFERENCE.
'CAUSE EVEN SOME CITY MANAGERS WITH THAT TITLE HAVE THE SAME RESPONSIBILITIES AS AN ADMINISTRATOR.
LIKE IT'S, IT'S ALL DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT CHARTERS, I GUESS.
NOW ONE THING, YES, I'M PRESUMING I, AND I MIGHT, I SHOULD NEVER DO THIS
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY THAT MAJORED IN COMMUNICATIONS OR THEATER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF THEY HAD, IF THEY HAD, IF THEY WERE A CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THAT THAT'S FINE.
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WANT TO JUST PICK SOMEBODY FROM AN INDUSTRY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOOD IN THAT INDUSTRY.THINK IT MIGHT NOT TRANSFER TO GOVERNMENT.
BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE IN THE, IN THE CITY MANAGER FIELD TODAY, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO HAVE COME FROM OTHER FIELDS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN A CITY MANAGER, BUT THEY'VE BEEN YEAH, YOU WOULD.
BECAUSE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
I MEAN, IT HAD ON THE, THEY'VE HAD ON THE JOB TRAINING.
BUT YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF FORMER MILITARY FOLKS WHO HAVE COME IN WHO USED TO RUN A BASE, WHICH IS JUST A SMALL CITY THAT I'M WE CITY MANAGER EXPERIENCE.
WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY JUMPING FROM ONE FIELD INTO THIS IMMEDIATELY.
HUH? DID YOU EVER SEE SOMEBODY FROM, I WANNA BE THEIR EXPERIMENT, SAY PRIVATE SECTOR, LIKE NOT-FOR-PROFIT LIKE HOSPITAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT RUNS PARALLEL WITH THE STUFF THAT I'M GETTING INTO.
CITY MANAGEMENT YOU DO SOMETIME IT'S TYPICALLY IN SMALLER CITIES.
THAT YOU SEE THAT WHERE PEOPLE MOVE IN SO THEY GET THEIR TOEHOLD AND UH, AND THEN MOVE UP.
OR THEY GO IN AS A DIFFERENT POSITION.
BUT TYPICALLY A CITY YOUR SIZE IS GONNA BE SOMEONE WHO'S A TRAINED CITY MANAGER THAT CAN COME IN.
ANNA, YOU'VE COME A LONG WAY TO MM-HMM.
I THINK THIS, WE HATE THAT WE'RE LOSING OUR CITY MANAGER, BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT YOUR TIMELINES TOO, 80 DAYS, 110 DAYS, WE GOTTA GET MOVING PRETTY SOON, YOU KNOW, SO THANK YOU FOR YES.
COMING, HELPING IT TAKES SOME TIME.
THE, UH, I GUESS THE LAST PART OF IT, JUST AGAIN, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF A DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT YOU WOULD DO AND WHAT A SEARCH FIRM WOULD DO RELATIVE TO ONCE A CANDIDATE'S BEEN OR A FINALIST GROUP OR WHATEVER.
BACKGROUND CHECKS IS REALLY NOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD DO.
WE DON'T DO BACK BACKGROUND CHECKS.
WE CAN DO REFERENCE CHECKS WHERE WE CALL AND OKAY.
DISCUSS LIKE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PERSON AND THOSE AS MUCH AS THEY'LL GIVE US.
SOMETIMES THEY WON'T GIVE MUCH INFORMATION, BUT WE DON'T DO THE BACKGROUND CHECKS THEMSELVES.
WHO DOES THE BACKGROUND CHECKS? DEPARTMENT OR TWO.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BE DONE BY THE HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT.
BUT WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT WE DO FOR OUR REGULAR HIRES.
BUT PD, WE CAN'T JUST RUN THEM THROUGH THE CRIME COMPUTER AS MUCH AS WE'D LIKE TO
I WOULD, I WOULD JUST IMAGINE MAYBE A SEARCH FIRM WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH OF A REGULAR CHECK.
SEARCH FIRM WOULD, WOULD LIKE DO A LITTLE MORE COMMUNITY RESEARCH.
THEY'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH THAN A LITTLE MORE THAN WE'RE GONNA DO PROBABLY.
SO THAT'S AGAIN, JUST VARYING LEVELS OF SERVICE DEPENDING ON WHAT Y'ALL CHOOSE, YOU WANT.
I MEAN, THEY ARE DIFFERENT THAN US, YOU KNOW, A SEARCH FIRM IS, THAT IS WHAT THEY DO.
AND SO IT'S A LITTLE, PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE, UH, IT'S A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH AND POLISHED IN THOSE WAYS.
SO WE ARE JUST HAPPY TO HELP HOWEVER YOU NEED US THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UM, GEORGE SANTOS, NO, THIS GREAT RESUME AND AGAIN, FULL DISCLOSURE, I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, I FORMALLY WORKED AT MT.
CAME HERE, I WAS IN HANA'S POSITION FOR MIDDLE TENNESSEE HERE.
UM, AND DID A FEW OF THESE SEARCHES FOR PROCEEDINGS AROUND TOO.
MOST OF THE SMART ONES GO FROM CITY MANAGEMENT TO MA.
SO, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOTTA GET TO THE BRIEFING, BUT AT SOME POINT WE'LL NEED TO DISCUSS HOW YOU WANNA, UM, WHAT YOUR NEXT STEPS ARE.
DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM A SEARCH FIRM? JUST SO YOU HAVE THE FULL KNOWLEDGE BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION OR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT TIME TO GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW UNLESS YOU WANT TO.
I WOULD, I'LL JUST BE HONEST ABOUT IT.
I, I WANT US TO HAVE AS BROAD ANNETTE AS POSSIBLE TO FIND THE BEST POSSIBLE PERSON.
AND I, I I DON'T SEE A, I MEAN IF IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DOLLARS AND CENTS, THIS MAY BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST DECISIONS WE EVER MAKE.
AND I THINK IT'S WORTH SPENDING THE MONEY TO.
WELL, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING TOO SIMILAR TO THIS WITH A, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU, I'M JUST STATING MY POSITION.
I THINK IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ALL OR NOTHING NECESSARILY OR ONE OR THE OTHER.
I THINK WE COULD START WITH NTAS AND SEE HOW THE SEARCH GOES AND THEN IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO INCLUDE A, AN OUTSIDE SEARCH FIRM AT THAT POINT, THEN WE COULD, UM, YOUR SCHEDULE WILL BE THE PROBLEM THERE.
I THINK BECAUSE TO SELECT THE FIRM YOU'D HAVE TO DO AN RFP AND THAT'S A FOUR TO SIX WEEK PROCESS AND ALL THAT.
SO IF YOU GET INTO IT AND THEN STOP AND START
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THAT.I, I I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CONCERN.
COULD WE START THE, THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THIS FOUR TO SIX WEEKS? LIKE WE CAN GO AHEAD WITH M TASK, BUT WE COULD START THE SEARCH FIRM PROCESS AND CHANGE.
WELL YOU CAN ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, GET PROPOSALS AND DECIDE NEVER TO DO ANYTHING.
YOU RUN PARALLEL TRACKS, RIGHT? NO, LET'S DO IT COULD DO TWO TRACK.
THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO GO AHEAD AND THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO THEN YOU'D HAVE 'EM, YOU LOOK AT 'EM AND SAY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THIS FIRM AND THEN, BUT YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S COMMITTED UNTIL YOU VOTE ON SOMETHING.
'CAUSE I DO WANT TO DO WHAT WE CAN WITH MTSS.
'CAUSE IT, IF WE GO A THIRD PARTY SEARCH FORM, IT MAY HELP US PINPOINT WHAT KIND OF THIRD PARTY WE NEED IF WE TRUE.
GET ALL THE HELP WE CAN FROM S AND REALLY THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GONNA TELL YOU THEY'RE GONNA DO IS EXACTLY WHAT MTA SAID.
THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND MEET WITH YOU ALL AND RIGHT.
AND DISCUSS THE CANDIDATE PROFILE.
SO IF YOU'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME ON THAT AND DE EXACTLY.
SO THAT WOULD NOT START AND STOP, BUT DO A SELECTION PROCESS AND THEN DECIDE IF YOU NEED ONE OR NOT.
THE MORE MTAS CAN DO TO HELP US FIGURE IT OUT, I THINK NARROW DOWN THE BETTER SELECTION NARROW WE CAN MAKE, WHETHER IT'S ON OUR OWN OR WITH A THIRD PARTY.
AND YOU CAN DO, UH, VERSUS A FULL BLOWN RECRUIT WITH THIRD PARTY, YOU CAN JUST DO A STRAIGHT UP HEADHUNT.
SO YOU'VE ALREADY GOT, UM, YOUR, UM, CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR JOB.
IT JUST NARROWS THE SCOPE OF THEIR SERVICE.
SO I MEAN THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
THE SAYING THE SAME THING, WHICH IS WE'LL, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER, WHICH WON'T BE HARD.
AN RFP FOR AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM.
UM, AND THEN I'LL REENGAGE WITH MTS AND KIND OF SAY, WHAT'S THE NEXT, WILL YOU SEND THAT RFP TO US BEFORE IT GOES TO THE STREET? YEAH.
BUT AGAIN, IT'LL IT'LL BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND IF YOU'LL LET HANA KNOW, WE WANNA DO NEXT STEP.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE HANA ACTUALLY.
I MEAN IF THAT'S WHO YOU LIKED.
'CAUSE YOU SAW HER, I CAN ASK HER.
SHE DOESN'T WORK IN THIS TERRITORY, BUT IF, I THINK MTAS WOULD BE GLAD TO HELP BRENTWOOD AND SO THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO LIKED HER.
HANA JANE AND I KNOW HER FOR YEARS, SO YEAH.
AND SHE'S DONE IT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT SHE'S DONE THIS BEFORE.
I'LL, WE'LL SEND YOU A DRAFT OF THE RFP, UH, AND THEN I'LL RE-ENGAGE WITH EMAS AND TALK ABOUT GETTING THAT MOVING AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
AND WHAT WOULD THAT TIMELINE BE WITH EMAS NEXT WEEK, TWO WEEKS? HOW WOULD WE, WHAT WOULD WE EXPECT TO HEAR FROM YOU? UM, I'LL SEE IF, IF BY THE NEXT BRIEFING WE HAVE, WE KIND OF HAVE A, IF, IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANNA DO, HERE'S KIND OF THE STEP 1, 2, 3.
CALL THIS SEARCH PHARMACY PRIMARILY AIMED AT GOVERNMENT JOBS.
THERE'S SEVERAL HEALTH ISSUES.
YEAH, THERE'S, I CAN THINK OF FIVE, FIVE, NAME FIVE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT ARE PUBLIC SECTOR EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRMS. JUST LIKE, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL HAVE A PROBLEM ATTRACTING CANDIDATES FOR THE POSITION.
YOU WON'T HAVE PROBLEMS ATTRACTING SEARCH FIRMS WHO WANNA HELP YOU
UM, BECAUSE I THINK BRENTWOOD IS A, IS A COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THEIR CONNECT.
THEY MIGHT HAVE TO WORK TOO HARD.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THROUGH BRIEFING HERE, UH, FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UH, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK.
UM, NO, UM, NO ADVANCED MEETINGS ON UH, MONDAY.
SO SEVEN O'CLOCK AGAIN, I WON'T BE THERE.
JAY WILL BE FRONT OF THE MEETING.
UM, ALRIGHT, UH, MOST OF THE CONSENT, UM, ITEM ONE IS A CHANGE ORDER WITH FOUR STAR PAVING JUST TO UM, EXERCISE OUR RIGHT TO RENEW FOR, UH, TODD HELP ME THIRD YEAR.
THIRD YEAR OF A, OF A CONTRACT AS OUR PAVING CONTRACTOR.
UH, THERE'S A BUILT IN CPI ADJUSTMENT JUST IN THE CONTRACT.
SO WE JUST NEED YOUR OFFICES, ASSUMING THEY'RE DOING GREAT WORK FOR US.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING ON AROUND TOWN DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE AT AND AND ON.
RIGHT NOW A LOT OF THE SPRING PAVING IS UNDERWAY.
SO THAT'S JUST AGAIN, A RENEWAL OF OUR EXISTING CONTRACT WITH THE CPI ADJUSTMENT.
SIMILAR ITEM ON NUMBER TWO IS THE CHANGE ORDER WITH PRO SHOT FOR THE CONCRETE, UH, OR PIPELINING REPAIR AND LINING.
THEY DID A BUNCH OF WORK HERE RECENTLY.
ARE THEY DONE OR ARE THEY STILL DONE? THEY'RE STILL WORKING.
UM, REMEMBER THIS IS ONE WHERE WE'RE STILL USING ART MONEY FOR THIS, THIS, UH, DRAINAGE WISE RELATED, BUT THAT'S ESTIMATED IT'S A, IT'S UH, THE CONTRACT HAS UNIT PRICING.
THE ESTIMATED SPEND IS ABOUT 750,000 TIDE IDENTIFIES NEED.
AND EACH ONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF LENGTH OR WIDTH OR WHAT IS IT CIRCUMFERENCE, IS THAT THE RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO, BUT EXISTING CONTRACT THAT WAS BID, JUST RENEWING THAT.
ITEM THREE IS A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH A LOWER 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT.
SPEED LIMIT ON JOHNSON CHAPEL ROAD.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM UM,
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THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE EITHER EARLIER THIS THEY RECOMMENDED 24 'CAUSE IT STOOD OUTBUT IS THERE, I KNOW THAT'S WEIRD.
SO YEAH, I MEAN WE, BY OUR STANDARDS WE FILE THE M-U-T-C-D, THE MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.
AND OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAYS THE M-U-T-C-D DOES NOT, UH, LIKE THAT THE AUTHORIZE OR APPROVE THAT WEIRD THING.
I'M, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASONING FOR IT BUT OH THAT'S WEIRD.
BUT WE JUST FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO COMPLY WITH THE M-U-T-C-D PROBABLY JUST FIVE MILE PER HOUR INCREMENTS.
PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD OF THAT ONE EITHER.
'CAUSE YOU GET OTHER PEOPLE REQUESTING MY AREA.
YOU KNOW, WE DID A 24 ALSO OR YEAH.
UM, AND TODD, I HAD, AND HE LOOPED YOU IN A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH ON THIS UM, 'CAUSE OF KIND OF SOME CONCERN WITH THAT.
OPTION THREE LIGHTING WAS THE LIGHT SAYS 25 AND THEN IT HAS THE, YOU KNOW, TELLS YOU YOUR SPEED AND A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT OKAY ARE UH, ARE THEY GONNA SPEED UP? HOPEFULLY IT'S ON THE CURB.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND TODD MADE A GREAT RECOMMENDATION AS WE PUT ALL THIS IN, BUT I WANT TO KEEP IT ON THE TABLE THAT SHOULD THIS NOT HELPING ENOUGH, WE CONSIDER AGAIN DOING SOME KIND OF SIGNAGE AND FLASHING LIGHT LIKE WE HAVE, UM, AT THE TOP OF THE CURVE AT HOLLY TREE SO THAT IT TELLS YOU, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BEEN, I EVEN, FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE IF I'M GOING THAT CURVE AND IT'S LIKE YOU'RE TOO FAST FOR THIS CURVE AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH YEAH, I BETTER SLOW DOWN.
IT CAN REALLY GET YOUR ATTENTION.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT AS AN OPTION.
AND REMEMBER IF I CAN JUST REAL QUICK NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ONE PART OF IT.
THERE'S SOME TREE REMOVAL THAT'S PLANNED TODD'S THAT WENT OUT AND MARKED TREES AND TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT REACHED OUT TO HIM.
IN RESPONSE TO THAT WE SENT LETTERS.
AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE, UH, ABOUT WARNING SIGNAGE AND THEN ALSO SOME PAINTED RUMBLE.
I DON'T WANNA CALL 'EM RUMBLE STRIPS, BUT YEAH, THERE'S SOME, UH, MORE IMPROVED THERMO PLAST MARKINGS.
UM, THERE WILL BE A, A SLIGHT RUMBLE ON THE EDGE LINE AND BETWEEN THE CENTER LINE, UM, WORKING OUT THE DETAILS OF THAT, THE ENGINEER RECOMMENDED RUMBLES IN THE LANE.
UM, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT WE'VE KIND OF DIALED BACK ON INITIALLY ANYWAYS.
WE COULD ALWAYS ADD THOSE IF WE CHOOSE.
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT RUMBLE IS DESIGNED TO GET THE ATTENTION OF THE DRIVERS AND IT OFTEN ALSO GETS THE ATTENTION OF THE NEARBY ANYBODY WHO LIVES AROUND THERE.
SO, UH, I'M AFRAID WE MIGHT GET SOME NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, BUT WE ARE GONNA PUT SOME, UM, WHITE CROSS LINES IN THE LANE.
AT LEAST THAT'S OUR INTENTION.
THAT WILL HELP RAISE AWARENESS, UM, JUST WITHOUT THE RUMBLE EFFECT AT FIRST ANYWAYS.
SO A LOT OF, UH, VEHICLES AS WELL AS THIRD PARTY MAPPING APPLICATIONS HAVE SPEED LIMITS POSTED FOR DIFFERENT AREAS AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF MODERN VEHICLES.
AND PUT THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE DASH AS YOU'RE DRIVING DIFFERENT AREAS.
UH, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, THERE MAY BE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, BUT, UM, HOW DO WE RECORD THE CHANGE IN THE SPEED LIMIT SO THAT IT SHOWS UP IN THE, IN THE MAPPING UTILITIES AND IN THE VEHICLES AND STUFF? GISI DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
I'M GONNA SAY TECHNOLOGY IS GONNA HANDLE IT.
YOU GUYS SUBMIT IT TO LIKE GOOGLE AND UM, BEING MAPPED THAT SORT OF THING JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE ROAD CLOSURE.
'CAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY PAY ATTENTION, YOU KNOW, TO THAT ON THEIR DASH.
I THAT'S A AND I DON'T WANNA HAVE SOMEONE ONE SPEED LIMIT ON THEIR DASH, ANOTHER SPEED LIMIT FROM THE OFFICER THAT JUST PULLED 'EM OVER.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS STEP, THIS IS THE ONE THING Y'ALL HAVE TO PROVE ALL THE OTHER WORK IS SMALLER DOLLAR OR OUR OWN STAFF WORK THAT'LL BE OUT HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
UH, ITEM FOUR IS DISPOSAL OF SEVERAL POLICE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES, UH, TWO OF WHICH ARE PROPOSED TO BE DONATED TO CENTERVILLE AND THEN THE OTHER SIX WOULD GO UP THROUGH AUCTION SEVEN, I'M SORRY, UM, AUCTION.
AND THEY'RE VARYING SITUATIONS.
SOME ARE TOTALED AND WRECKED, SOME ARE OLDER, UH, WITH HIGH MILEAGE.
SOME ARE JUST OLDER WITH MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THERE.
FIVE IS A MINOR AMENDMENT TO OUR TCRS RETIREMENT PLAN.
I'M GONNA TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS.
IT AMOUNTS TO A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUT, UM, AS YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHEN YOU'RE HIRED WITH THE CITY, UH, SOME PEOPLE DON'T CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING OUT OF THEIR PAY FOR RETIREMENT.
SOME PEOPLE CONTRIBUTE 5% AND THAT'S A, I THINK IT'S A 2010 HIRE DATE.
IF YOU'RE AFTER 2010, YOU CONTRIBUTE 5% BEFORE THAT YOU DON'T CONTRIBUTE.
UM, IF YOU, IF WE HAVE ANY EMPLOYEES WHO EXCEED THE SOCIAL SECURITY WAGE BASE WHERE YOU ABOVE A CERTAIN DOLLAR LIMIT, YOU QUIT PAYING SOCIAL SECURITY TAXES.
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THE TCRS PLAN AS IT SITS TODAY, UH, AN EMPLOYEE WOULD HAVE TO PAY 0.5% OF A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THAT AMOUNT ABOVE THAT SOCIAL SECURITY WAGE BASE.SO, UH, WE HAD TWO EMPLOYEES LAST YEAR.
THAT WILL NUMBER WILL PROBABLY GROW AS WE CONTINUE TO ADJUST OUR PAY PLAN.
SO WHAT WE HAVE THEN IS SOMEBODY WHO, UH, WE'VE TOLD IS NON-CONTRIBUTORY, MEANING THEY DON'T HAVE TO PUT ANYTHING IN, HAS TO END UP PUTTING IN A SMALL AMOUNT FOR ANYTHING ABOVE THAT WAGE BASE.
THOSE WHO ARE PUTTING IN 5% END UP PUTTING IN 5.5% FOR ANYTHING ABOVE THAT WAGE BASE.
SO WHAT THIS DOES IS ESSENTIALLY SAYS THAT THE CITY WILL ABSORB THAT EXTRA HALF PERCENT FOR THAT AMOUNT ABOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY WAGE BASE.
AND AGAIN, LAST YEAR IT WAS, IT AMOUNTED TO $323.
THIS YEAR IT'LL BE A LITTLE MORE 'CAUSE THERE'S A FEW MORE EMPLOYEES.
BUT FINANCIAL DOLLAR WISE, IT'S, IT'S MINIMAL.
IT'S JUST TRYING TO HONOR WHAT WE TELLING EMPLOYEES.
SO THAT'S WHAT, $300 PER PERSON OR JUST TOTAL? TOTAL PER, WELL IN THAT CASE IT WAS TWO EMPLOYEES.
BUT WE HAVE FIVE THIS YEAR THAT ARE, WILL EXCEED THAT AND AGAIN, IT'LL END UP SO 323 TOTAL ARE, ARE YOU SETTING YOURSELF UP THOUGH THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA GROW FOR THE FUTURE AND IT WILL A LITTLE BIT AS AS IS THERE A WAY JUST TO SAY YEAH, NOW THAT SAL, YOU KNOW, THE SOCIAL SECURITY IN IS INDEXED, SO IT GOES UP EACH YEAR.
SO WHETHER IT RISES AT THE SAME LEVEL OF OUR SALARIES OR NOT, UM, WILL AFFECT WHAT THAT IS.
SO SHOULD WE CAP IT? IS WHAT YOU'RE WONDERING? UM, BUT IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF OF, YOU KNOW, ARE WE, WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR.
IF, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IN OUR DOCUMENTATION AND COMMUNICATION TO EMPLOYEES THAT THEY UNDERSTAND ABOVE A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA GIVE 5.5% INSTEAD OF FIVE.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO DO THAT LONG TERM OR THIS IS JUST GONNA TO KEEP COMING BACK UP FOR DISCUSSION COMING BACK EVERY YEAR.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S SUCH A, IT IS SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT AND I THINK FOR THOSE PEOPLE GETTING THE GOOD SALARIES, IT'S IN A WAY AS TAXES GOING UP AND TAXES GO UP, THAT'S WHAT WE GOTTA DO.
ARE YOU SAYING NOT TO DO THE I'M I'M OKAY WITH PERSONALLY.
I'M OKAY WITH DOING THIS NOW, BUT I'M SAYING WE NEED TO FIX THIS FROM THIS POINT ON BECAUSE WELL THAT'S, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD DO.
I MEAN THIS IS A PERMANENT CHANGE, SO IT'S NOT COMING BACK UP.
DO THIS CHANGE, THIS IS NOT AN ANNUAL ELECTION.
THIS IS A CHANGE TO THE PLAN IF YOU DO THIS.
SO THE JUST SAYING, SO THIS YEAR YOU GOT TWO PEOPLE.
NEXT YEAR YOU MAY HAVE FOUR, NEXT YEAR YOU HAVE SIX.
SO IT COULD JUST KEEP GROWING THAT WAY, RIGHT? YES.
THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY IS ABSORBING THE AND THE P IS THAT, WHAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.
THE AMOUNT THE CITY IS ABSORBING HAS THE POTENTIAL TO KEEP RISING.
AGAIN, IT'S A HALF A PERCENT FOR WHATEVER DOLLAR AMOUNT IS ABOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY WAGE BASE.
NOT THE FIRST DOLLAR A SALARY.
I THINK YOU CAN SAY IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT FOR THE CITY, BUT I CAN ALSO SAY, YOU CAN SAY IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT FOR THE EMPLOYEE WHO'S GETTING A MAJOR BENEFIT HERE.
AND I JUST THINK FOR LONG TERM THIS JUST GETS MORE COMPLICATED AND GROWS IN AN AMOUNT I THAT THAT CONCERNS ME.
IS THERE A WAY TO AS PUT IT INTO SOME SORT OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENT OR NO? NO.
YOU EITHER ADAPT IT INTO THE PLAN OR YOU DON'T.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE RETIREMENT PLAN WORKS.
SO ARE YOU SAYING, AND I'M TRYING TO BE CLEAR HERE, YOU WANT IT FIXED SO THAT THE CITY ISN'T ABSORBING IT, THAT THE AGREEMENT WITH THE EMPLOYEES HAS CHANGED TO REFLECT THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE ABSORBED.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLEAR HERE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND YOU'RE CONCERNED BECAUSE IT, WE'RE NOT CAPPING IT AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
IT IT IS AN EVENTUALLY DOLLAR AMOUNT, HALF THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND YOU KNOW, SO WELL I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVER GET TO THAT LEVEL, BUT
HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE WE GONNA HAVE? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOP 1%, YOU KNOW.
WELL ALSO, I MEAN IS IT WORTH ALL THAT AND DOESN'T IT SAY IT'S JUST TEAM MEMBERS THAT ENROLLED IN THE PLAN BETWEEN 2010 AND 2019? SO, I MEAN, YES.
THE HYBRID PLAN, WHICH IS FOR EVERYBODY HIRED AFTER 2019 ALREADY HAS THIS IN PLACE.
YEAH, SO, SO I MEAN IT DOESN'T JUST GROW CONTROLLED, IT'S KIND OF
THERE IS A, AN ENDING TO THIS AS THOSE EVERYBODY HIRED BEFORE 2019, IT'S A FIFTH POOL OF PEOPLE HIRE BETWEEN THOSE DATES SO THAT WHETHER IT'S THROUGH ATTRITION OR RETIREMENT, THE POOL IS GONNA GO TO ZERO OVER TIME.
IT WILL, IT WILL MAYBE GROW BUT THEN OVER TIME WILL GO TO ZERO INCREASES IN, I GUESS IS THERE, IS THERE INCOME INCREASES? IS THAT HOW THEY'D JOININ THE POOL AS FAR AS THEY ALREADY WORK FOR US.
BUT YOU'D BE THIS AFFECTS, YEAH, IF THEY GET A PAY RAISE THAT PUTS 'EM ABOVE THAT SOCIAL SECURITY YEAH.
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LIMIT.SO IT GROWS AS PEOPLE GET INTO THAT SOCIAL SECURITY LIMIT AND WHEN IT SHRINKS IS PEOPLE EITHER THROUGH ATTRITION OR RETIREMENT, LEAVE THE POOL.
SO I MEAN IT'S NOT AN UNLIMITED LIABILITY, IT'S A, THE FIXED LIABILITY, IT'S REWARDING YOUR TOP, YOU'RE REWARDING YOUR PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE MOST MONEY.
AND THEN PEOPLE THAT ARE HIRED AFTER 219 THAT ARE LOWER, THEY'RE GONNA PAY, THEY'RE GONNA PAY ALL THAT.
I, NO, THE CITY'S ABSORBING IT FOR EVERYBODY AFTER 2019 ALREADY THE EMPLOYEE ISN'T, THE CITY ALREADY IS FOR VOTING THEM ON THE SAME CLAIM THAT EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO IT'S 0.5% OF THAT INCREASE IN INCOME.
SO IT'S NOT LIKELY TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY NOT EVEN A CHANGE.
IT'S JUST NOTICING SOMETHING THAT WORKED DIFFERENTLY THAN INTENDED IT SOUNDS LIKE.
WELL IT DIDN'T REALLY KICK INTO IT UNTIL THE LAST FEW YEARS WHEN SALARIES WERE AT A POINT OF A, FOR ME IT'S KICKED IN FOR A FEW YEARS.
AND NOW FOR YEARS I WAS THE ONLY ONE.
UH, AND NOW JAY AS, AND NOW WE'VE GOT THREE OR FOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT'LL KICK INTO IT IN THE, IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
BUT AGAIN, FOR PEOPLE HIRED F 29, WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT RETIREMENT PLANS.
THE LEGACY PLAN, NON-CONTRIBUTORY, EVERYBODY BEFORE 2010 LEGACY PLAN CONTRIBUTORY BETWEEN 2010 AND 2019.
AND THEN 2019 FORWARD IS HYBRID.
IT'S ALREADY BUILT INTO THE HYBRID FOR THE CITY TO ABSORB IT FOR EVERYBODY HIRED AFTER 2019.
IT'S JUST THOSE HIGHER PRIOR TO THAT, ONCE THEY KICK INTO THIS WAGE BASE, THAT EXTRA HALF A PERCENT.
IT'S GOOD CLEANING UP AND MATCHING THE LANGUAGE ESSENTIALLY FOR PEOPLE AFTER IT'S CLEANING UP WHAT WE'VE ESSENTIALLY TOLD EVERYBODY, WHICH EITHER YOU HAVE NO CONTRIBUTIONS OR YOU HAVE 5% VERSUS WHAT COULD BE A 0.5 CONTRIBUTION INSTEAD OF ZERO OR FIVE AND A HALF INSTEAD OF FIVE.
SO IF IT MAXES OUT AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE IN THAT CATEGORY, WOULD IT BE $3,000? WOULD IT BE $10,000? WOULD IT BE 30,000? I THINK IT'D BE LESS THAN $10,000.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA GO TO THE SUPER BIG SIX DIGIT NUMBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE THAT'S A HALF A PERCENT ONLY ABOVE.
WHAT THIS YEAR I THINK IS $163,000.
OKAY, WELL THAT HELPS US, UH, UNDERSTAND THE LEARNING.
AND AGAIN, THAT POPULATION WILL EVENTUALLY GO AWAY BECAUSE 1 1 68 6 THIS YEAR I THINK.
SO, UM, YEAH, SO IT'S PUTTING EVERYBODY ON THE SAME BASIS AND KEEPING SURE THAT IF WE'VE TOLD PEOPLE ZERO, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A 0.5% FOR A PART OF IT OR FIVE OR FIVE AND HALF FOR PART OF IT.
THANKS FOR EXPLAINING ALL THAT AND THANKS FOR ASKING, ASKING QUESTIONS AND I FORGOT ABOUT YEAH, FORGOT.
AND KEEP IN MIND OUR TOTAL CONTRIBUTION OVERALL TO, FOR PENSIONS FROM THE CITY IS A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WE'RE TALKING, THEY'RE A SMALL ADDED OBLIGATION HERE.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
ITEM SIX IS A AGREEMENT WITH BARGE DESIGN SOLUTIONS FOR SEWER REHAB PROGRAM.
AGAIN, THIS IS A, IT'S NOT AN EXTENSION, THIS IS ACTUALLY A RENEWAL, BUT THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR US FOR QUITE A WHILE.
THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR US FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, THIS IS JUST MANAGEMENT OF THE SEWER REHAB PROGRAM, LOOKING AT ALL THE DATA, HELPING US PICK PROJECTS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
ITEM SEVEN IS, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO OUR PRESCRIPTION DRUG PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS RELATED TO HUMIRA, WHICH IS ONE OF THE SPECIALTY DRUGS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE SECOND YEAR OF A PROGRAM WHERE WE'VE CARVED OUT, UH, SPECIALTY DRUGS SO THAT THEY'RE TECHNICALLY NOT COVERED, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKEND COVERAGE.
UM, BUT HUMIRA, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE IN THAT, UM, THERE ARE NOW, UH, WHAT ARE CALLED BIOSIMILAR DRUGS.
UM, 'CAUSE GENERICS HAVE THE EXACT SAME CHEMICAL COMPOSITION, UH, HEALTHCARE PEOPLE CAN, BIOSIMILAR HAS THE EXACT SAME ACTIVE INGREDIENTS, BUT MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT OTHER INGREDIENT.
UM, AND THERE'S SEVERAL BIOSIMILARS FOR HUMIRA.
AND SO KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH OUR CARVE OUT OF SPECIALTY DRUGS, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE CARVE OUT HUMIRA SPECIFICALLY FROM THE PLAN BECAUSE OF THE AVAILABILITY OF THE BIOSIMILARS.
IF FOR SOME REASON EMPLOYEE AND A PHYSICIAN SAID THEY CAN'T USE ANY OF THOSE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE HUMIRA, THEN THEY CAN STILL GO THROUGH OUR MANUFACTURER THING AND, AND COVER ON THE BACK END.
BUT WE WANT TO FIRST PUSH THE BIOSIMILAR PROCESS.
DOES THE EMPLOYEE PUSH THAT OR DOES THE PHYSICIAN PRESCRIBING PUSH THAT?
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AS FAR AS SAYING THAT? YEP.IT WOULD BE THE, IT WOULD, IT WOULD TAKE A MEDI, THE PHYSICIAN TO DOCUMENT WHY THE BIOSIMILARS WOULD NOT OKAY.
NOT JUST THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAID THE EMPLOYEE, WELL THE EMPLOYEE WOULD HAVE TO THEN GO THROUGH THE ADVOCACY PROCESS, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT MEDICAL BACKUP TO YEP.
AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE ON, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND I DO HAVE A FRIEND THAT'S ON HUMIRA AND, AND THE BIOSIMILARS DON'T WORK FOR HER THE SAME WAY THAT HUMIRA DOES.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THAT IT MAY BE SITUATION WHERE WE DO HAVE TO, AN EMPLOYEE DOES HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND ABSOLUTELY.
SO, SO WOULD WE MAKE A TRY THE BIOSIMILAR FIRST OR IF THEY, THAT USUALLY WOULD BE THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL DECISION.
IF, IF A DOCTOR, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA STEP IN.
I MEAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING IN THE PRESCRIPTION WORLD, I THINK IF THEY BELIEVE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE AVAILABLE, THEY WANT YOU TO TRY THAT FIRST.
BUT IT REALLY BECOMES A, A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL TO, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OUR PHARMACY BENEFIT PLAN HAS MEDICAL PEOPLE ON THEIR END OF IT AND THEY COMMUNICATE AND GOES FROM THERE.
UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING MAKING SAYING THEY HAVE TO TRY BIOMEDICAL.
I I, I DON'T, I CAN'T SAY THAT WE DO IT.
I, I DON'T KNOW THE WORDING OF THE PHONE.
UM, IT JUST CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING IF YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE MEDICATION BEFORE YOU CAN GET TO THE OTHER.
BUT AGAIN, WE, WE KIND OF HAVE THAT IN IN THE BUILT INTO THE PLAN ALREADY TO SOME EXTENT.
BUT THERE IS THAT PROCESS WHERE THE DOCTOR JUST SAYS, THIS WILL, NONE OF THESE WILL WORK AND HERE'S WHY.
THEN THERE IS A PROCESS FOR THAT MEDICAL REVIEW TO HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S THE PEER-TO-PEER MEDICAL YEAH.
A APPROVAL TO PURCHASE NILE NETWORK SERVICES.
I'M GONNA ASK SARAH AND OR DAN TO COME UP.
THIS IS A KIND OF A CHANGE IN OUR OPERATIONAL MODE RELATIVE TO OUR CORE NETWORK, UM, SERVICE SWITCHES AND WHATEVER ELSE IN TERMS OF, INSTEAD OF POINTS OF STUFF, INSTEAD OF US BUYING THEM AND MANAGING THEM, THIS IS A, LIKE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY.
SO, UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BRING THIS NOW NETWORKING SOLUTION AND IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO WE'VE BEEN A CISCO SHOP, UH, IN OUR ENVIRONMENT FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS NOW.
AND OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, CISCO HAS BOUGHT SEVERAL SOFTWARE COMPANIES, CYBERSECURITY COMPANIES, AND CISCO WOULD TELL YOU THEY'RE A SOFTWARE COMPANY WHO JUST NOW HAPPENS TO SELL SWITCHES.
AND THEIR COMPLEXITY OF MANAGING THEIR EQUIPMENT AND THE COST OF THEIR SOLUTION OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS GREATLY RISEN.
SO WE STARTED DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, LOOKING AT OTHER MANUFACTURERS.
WE LOOKED AT ABOUT HALF A DOZEN SOLUTIONS, THOUGHT REALLY WAS GONNA GO BACK WITH CISCO UNTIL WE CAME ACROSS DENIAL NETWORK.
UM, IT'S SEVERAL OF THE TOP LEVEL ENGINEERS AND FINANCE PEOPLE WITH CISCO FIVE YEARS AGO WHO DIDN'T AGREE THE DIRECTION CISCO WAS GOING, LEFT CISCO AND THEIR OWN NETWORKING COMPANY.
UM, AND THEY TOOK THE APPROACHES, YOU KNOW, NETWORKING SHOULD BE A LOT EASIER THAN WHAT CISCO IS DOING.
AND IN OUR ENVIRONMENT WE'RE NOW ON OUR FOURTH NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR IN FIVE YEARS.
AND THE CITY HAS A VERY COMPLICATED NETWORK AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO UNDERSTAND AND TO UH, TO MANAGE WHAT WE HAVE.
WHEN WE DID OUR DEMO OF NILE NETWORKING, IT'S GREATLY SIMPLIFIES, UH, TEACHING SOMEBODY SO I CAN BRING A JUNIOR NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR INSTEAD OF TAKING 12 TO 18 MONTHS ON HOW TO MANAGE CISCO.
I COULD TEACH YOU IN THREE TO FIVE DAYS ON HOW TO MANAGE THE NILE NETWORKS.
SO THE EASE OF MANAGEMENT WAS ONE ASPECT.
AND UM, THE BUZZ WORD YOU'LL HEAR IN THE, UM, TECHNOLOGY AREA LAST FEW YEARS CALLED ZERO TRUST.
EVERY COMPANY, EVERY ORGANIZATION IS TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING ZERO TRUST.
ZERO TRUST WILL DETERMINE WHAT CAN THIS COMPUTER IN THE CORNER AND INSIDE THE CITY COMMUNICATE TO.
WE HAVE DONE PROBABLY FIVE TO EIGHT DEMOS ON DIFFERENT ZERO TRUST SOLUTIONS AFTER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
WE'VE NOT LIKED ANYTHING, ANY OF THEM'S CHOSEN.
SO WE DIDN'T WANNA BUY SOMETHING JUST SO WE CAN SAY WE'RE DOING ZERO TRUST.
AND WHEN WE DID THE DEMO WITH THE NILE NETWORKS, UH, THEY DO A ZERO TRUST REPORT BASED, UH, SOMETHING UNIQUE THAT NOBODY ELSE IS DOING.
UM, AND SO IT HAS REALLY UPPED OUR LEVEL OF SECURITY.
MR. GORMAN, YOU ASKED ME A FEW MONTHS AGO DURING THE LAST SOFTWARE WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE DO WE RATE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO CYBERSECURITY, ARE WE KIND OF CATCHING UP? UH, THIS PUTS US A HUGE STEP FORWARD THAN A LOT OF OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND BUSINESSES WHEN IT COMES TO ZERO TRUST.
UM, LIKE KIRK WAS SAYING, THIS IS A NOW A FIXED SERVICE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO UPGRADE THE EQUIPMENT, THE VENDORS THEMSELVES.
WE GET ON A SCHEDULE REMOTE IN UPGRADE, SO IT REDUCES HOW MUCH WORKLOAD IS ON OUR STAFF.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A BIG CHANGE AND YES.
MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR ALL THOSE.
IS THERE MONEY KIND OF WE'RE LEAVING ON THE TABLE BY MAKING THE SWITCH THAT WE HAD WITH CISCO THAT WE'RE KIND OF LOSING?
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YES MA'AM.WE DID A COST SPACE ANALYSIS, UH, ON WHAT WE SPEND TODAY ON OUR WIRELESS CONTROLLER ACCESS POINT AND NETWORK SWITCHES COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING WITH CISCO COMPARED TO WHAT WE WOULD BE PAYING WITH N OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS.
AND WE ESTIMATED IT'S GONNA SAVE US ABOUT $173,000 OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS.
AND MUCH EASIER TO MANAGE AND MORE SECURE.
SO IT'S WAS KIND OF NO BRAINER FOR US.
SO, SO WE WON'T OWN OUR OWN SWITCHES ANYMORE, THEY OWN SWITCHES.
SO WE'RE DOING THIS, I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY NETWORK SWITCHES AS A SERVICE.
SO IN THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ENSURE THE SERVICE LEVEL THESE GUYS GET IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE AND START GOING CHEAP BY EITHER THE EQUIPMENT OR THE UPGRADES? WHAT HAPPENS AND ARE WE AT RISK IF THEY ROLL IN HERE ONE DAY WITH A PICKUP TRUCK, PICK UP THEIR SWITCHES AND LEAVE? YES SIR.
BUT, UH, WE WOULD GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S COST BASED ANALYSIS ON WHAT IS YOUR RISK BASED OFF OF WHAT ARE YOU GONNA RECEIVE AS FAR AS THE BENEFITS OFF OF IT.
SO WE CAN ALWAYS, IF WE NEEDED TO GO BACK TO CISCO OR, OR SOMEPLACE ELSE.
UM, BUT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT I'VE SEEN TECHNOLOGY, I'VE THOUGHT THAT'S GONNA REALLY CHANGE THE FACE OF THE WAY TECHNOLOGY IS DONE.
UH, AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR A LOT ABOUT NOW NETWORKING, HOW THEY'VE REALLY CHANGED THE WAY NETWORKING HAS DONE.
I JUST KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT WHEN I LOOK AT A CONTRACT LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A SIZABLE DIFFERENCE IN THE STRUCTURE, I TRY NOT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT MIGHT GO RIGHT.
BUT I ALSO REALLY TRY TO THINK CAREFULLY THROUGH WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CRA.
AND, AND WE DO, THE WIND DOWN IS STRUCTURED AND WHAT THE TIMELINES ARE, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW A FAILURE OF THE CONTRACT WORKS.
SO THAT'S JUST, AND IT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS DISCUSSION, I'D JUST BE CURIOUS HOW THE WIND DOWN WORKS.
IF, IF, IF THIS ALL, IF, IF I THINK THE OTHER ISSUE IN TECHNOLOGY WOULD BE EITHER THEY GO AWAY OR THEY GET BOUGHT AND WHAT DOES THE NEW COMPANY, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR CORE SWITCHES ARE ALSO NOT CHANGING.
WE WILL KEEP OUR CISCO CORE SWITCHES, SO WE WILL STILL KEEP THAT IN PLACE SO WE'RE NOT SWITCHING THOSE OUT.
WE'LL KEEP CISCO IN THE DATA CENTER.
WE'LL KEEP CISCO, UH, AT OUR TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND OUR 9 1 1 CENTER.
UH, SO WE'LL STILL HAVE A STRONG CISCO PRESENCE.
IT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE EDGE SWITCHES IS TYPICALLY WHERE PEOPLE'S LAPTOPS, DESKTOPS, AND PRINTERS AND THINGS PLUGGED IN.
THAT'S THE EQUIPMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACING.
IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE, THE FAILURE.
UM, IF WE HAVE A CISCO SWITCH, AND TYPICALLY THEY COME IN LIKE A STACK OF TWO OR THREE.
AND SO IF WE WAS TO HAVE A CISCO SWITCH FAILURE TODAY, WE'RE HAVING TO REACH OUT TO FIND A VENDOR WITH A NETWORK ENGINEER WHO CAN AVAILABLE TO WORK WITH US TO REPLACE THAT TO ALL CONFIGURATIONS.
AND WE COULD BE DOWN ONE TO TWO DAYS WITH AN NOW NETWORKING, THERE'S A QR CODE ON IT, AND YOU TAKE A PICTURE, TAKE YOUR PHONE, TAKE A PICTURE OF THE QR CODE, AND THEN GO TAKE YOUR BRAND NEW SWITCH SITTING ON THE SHELF, TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT QR CODE, IT TRANSFERS ALL THE CONFIGURATIONS.
I COULD LITERALLY HAVE ANY JUNIOR, YOU KNOW, COME IN AND SWAP OUT A NETWORK SWITCH WHERE TODAY WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTRACT THAT OUT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
AND, BUT WE WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN WE WENT FROM ONSITE SERVERS TO A CLOUD-BASED SYSTEM FOR RUNNING OUR BUSINESS.
AND THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF ONE DAY WE DO DISAGREE AND THEY JUST TURN IT OFF, YOU KNOW? SO, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST HAVE TO REALLY BE CAREFUL AS YOU READ THOSE CONTRACTS AND, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE RIGHTS.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING WHAT HAPPENS WITH GOES WRONG.
AND HAVING THE COURSE, UH, SWITCHES AND STUFF IN PLACE FOR 9 1 1 ANOTHER REALLY CRITICAL STUFF.
I'M REALLY, I'M VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
BECAUSE THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
UM, ITEM NINE IS REPLACEMENT OF OUR ANNUAL OR PURCHASE OF REPLACEMENT COMPUTERS PER OUR ANNUAL, UM, PLACEMENT SCHEDULE, VARIETY OF LAPTOPS, DESKTOPS, MONITORS, AND TO BARS 73 70 5,400.
AND THAT'S A PIGGYBACK PURCHASE, UH, THROUGH THE WILSON COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION CONTRACT WITH DELL.
AND THAT'S ALL PROGRAMMED IN OUR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT.
UH, ITEM 10 IS, UM, PURCHASE OF FOUR RADIOS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, WITH OUR RADIO SYSTEM UNDER THE STATE OF TENNESSEE CONTRACT 27 8, UH, OR 27,000 8 56.
UH, AND THESE ARE, WE'RE ACTUALLY CLOSER TO GETTING FULL STAFF.
SO WE, IT, THESE WERE, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE ADDED POSITIONS LAST YEAR, AND SO THERE WAS BUDGET LAST YEAR.
WE JUST NEVER NEEDED TO BUY THEM.
SO NOW WE'RE BUYING THEM IN ANTICIPATION OF NEEDING THEM FOR FULL STAFF.
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UM, SO THAT'S, THAT ITEM 11 IS THE STREET RESURFACING LIST, UM, FOR NEXT YEAR.AND THIS IS A COMBINATION OF RESURFACING, BUT ALSO THE, UH, RECITE YES SIR.
YOU REMEMBER TODD TALKED TO YOU A LITTLE ABOUT MONTHS AGO AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO OUR FIRST ONE.
UM, AND ASSUMING THAT GOES WELL, THEN HE'S GOT A LONG LIST OF, UM, OF OTHER REJUVENATION PROJECTS THAT ALL OF THESE ARE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN REPAVED IN THE, WILL HAVE BEEN REPAVED IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, RIGHT? YEAH.
ALL THE RECITES ARE IN THE LAST, UH, TWO YEARS.
UH, YOU MAY RECALL RECITES NOT A GREAT APPLICATION FOR HIGH TRAFFIC ROADS.
SO WE DID REPAVE SPLIT LOG ROAD LAST YEAR, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE RECITE LIST.
AND THEN THE NEW LIST IS THERE.
UH, ONE ITEM, A NEW BUSINESS IS THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR WINDY HILL PARK, ORION BUILDING CORPORATION.
UH, WE BID THAT, UNFORTUNATELY I ONLY HAD ONE BID, UM, BUT IT WAS A, A GOOD BID IN TERMS OF OUR ESTIMATED COST, UH, CAME IN ABOUT 4.1 MILLION.
UH, THEY WERE ACTUALLY, UH, QUALIFIED IN ONE OF THE BIDDERS ON OUR CITY HALL PROJECT ALSO.
UM, SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD, UH, 4.1 MILLION WAS THE BID.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A $200,000 CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE, UM, AND NOT IN THE CONTRACT, BUT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO, UH, FOR STAFF TO PROCESS CHANGE ORDERS UP TO THAT AMOUNT.
UH, YOU RECALL YOU ALREADY APPROVED $185,000 FOR THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
SO WHEN YOU ADD THAT ALL TOGETHER, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, JUST UNDER 4.5 MILLION IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION AND PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR THAT PARK.
UH, PROVE THAT WOULD START CONSTRUCTION, UH, PROBABLY DAY MAY SOMETIME.
UH, AND THE HOPE WOULD BE A, A ROUGHLY 12 MONTH SCHEDULE.
A LOT OF THAT, OF COURSE IS WEATHER DEPENDENT SINCE IT'S PRIMARILY SITE WORK TYPE STUFF.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TWO MEMBERS, APPOINTMENT OF TWO MEMBERS TO THE PARK BOARD, FIVE APPLICANTS, ONE INCUMBENT, AND THEN ONE MEMBER TO THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY BOARD OF RESERVATION.
YOU ONLY HAVE ONE APPLICANT THERE.
UM, APPLICANT DOES SEEM TO BE QUALIFIED IN TERMS OF REAL ESTATE EXPERIENCE AND SUCH.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT NOTICE OF FUTURE APPOINTMENTS OF, UM, THREE MEMBERS TO THE PARK BOARD.
BUT THAT THREE INCLUDES YOUR COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN'S APPOINTMENT, SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT A PUBLIC APPLICATION PROCESS, BUT WE'LL, WHEN YOU APPOINT THE OTHER TWO, WE'LL HAVE TO FORMALLY REAPPOINT HER TO SOMEWHAT TO THAT
THEY HAVE ASKED THAT I STAY ON
UM, AND THEN, UH, THEY WANTED YOU TO, YOU ASKED FOR AN UPDATE ON THE EMERGENCY CALL BOX OUT FRONT.
SO COMMISSIONER'S PLAN A WAS TO UTILIZE THE VESTIBULE, UH,
SO YOU COULD JUST COME IN AND MAKE YOUR RIGHT TURN AND GO IN.
LIKE YOU HAVE THAT COMMISSIONER SPEARS, TO YOUR POINT, IT'S, AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN YOU THAT SAID THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY INTUITIVE TO SOMEBODY WHO'S HAVING AN EMERGENCY, WHAT THEY NEED TO GO AND DO.
YOU GAVE SOMEBODY DIRECTIONS ONE TIME, UH, SENDING THEM TO THE PHONE.
SO THIS COULD BE INSTALLED ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TURNSTILE.
THIS WOULD BE TO THE LEFT WHERE THE BENCH IS.
BENCH WOULD SLIDE CLOSER TO THE BUILDING AND THEN THIS WOULD BE MOUNTED TO THE WALL, CUT THE BLUE LIGHT ON TOP AND ALL IN COSTS, INCLUDING RUN THE ELECTRICAL AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PUNCHING THROUGH THE WALL AND ALL THAT.
AND SO THE VESTIBULE WOULD STILL STAY IN THE FUTURE, BUT THIS WOULD
BUT AFTER HOURS, UM, THIS WILL BE THERE AND EASILY IDENTIFIABLE TO SOMEBODY IN THE PARKING LOT WHO'S HAVING A, A PROBLEM.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT KIND OF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT BLOCK OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE FIRE BAY IS, THERE'S A RING DOWN PHONE AND WE'LL BE REPLACING THE RING DOWN PHONE WITH A, A VIDEO PHONE, LIKE WHAT WE HAVE AT STATION FIVE.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WITH AN EMERGENCY, IF THEY'VE GOT A, A CHOKING BABY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY'LL WANT TO GO TO, TO THE BAY, KNOCK ON A DOOR AND IF NOBODY'S AVAILABLE TO IT, THAT'S WHAT THE RING DOWN PHONE IS FOR.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW THAT SOMETHING'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THIS WILL BE.
SO YOU REALLY DO NEED BOTH THINGS.
SO JUST AS A, AS A PRACTICAL QUESTION OR, OR MAYBE CHIEF
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HICKEY FROM A A, A DEPARTMENTAL BEST PRACTICES, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS, IS KIND OF A BEST PRACTICE OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S VALUE OR FINDING LARGELY UTILIZED? OR IS THIS LIKE A TELEPHONE BOOTH WHERE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S FAMILIAR BUT NOT AS WIDELY USED? OR IS IT, IS IT THE DIRECTION THE DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING IN OR DO THEY FIND THESE ARE WIDELY UTILIZED WHEN THEY'RE PUT INTO DIFFERENT PLACES? OR DO THEY FIND THAT YEAH, I THINK THEY ARE WIDELY USED.LUCKILY, UM, PEOPLE SEEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S FOR.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF CALLS ON THE WALKING TRAILS, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR NONSENSE, IT'S, THEY USE IT JUST FOR EMERGENCY.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT WORKS VERY, VERY WELL.
SO YOU FIND THAT THERE ARE BENEFITS TO THE DEPARTMENT AND MONEY WELL SPENT FROM A DEPARTMENTAL STANDPOINT? ABSOLUTELY.
ONE CALL AND THE PHONE WE HAVE DOWNSTAIRS.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE, WHAT THE DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE IN LOOKING BACK THE CALL LOGS FROM THE PHONE WE HAVE DOWNSTAIRS.
I MEAN, IT'S USED SEVERAL TIMES A MONTH.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS EMERGENCIES, RIGHT? IT'S SOMEBODY WHO WALKS IN AND TALKS TO RACHEL AND SAYS, HEY, I NEED TO TALK TO AN OFFICER, AND THEN SHE DIRECTS 'EM THERE.
BUT IT WAS, THERE'S SEVERAL TIMES A MONTH AT LEAST IN THE, IN THE PERIOD WE LOOKED AT WHERE IT WAS USED ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY.
I DON'T, AGAIN, DON'T KNOW THE NATURE OF THOSE CALLS, BUT IT WAS AN AFTER HOURS USE OF IT, SO THIS WOULD JUST SUPPLEMENT.
THAT ONE DOESN'T REPLACE THE OTHER.
HOW SOON CAN THIS GO IN ONE MONTH.
GOTTA GET IT ORDERED, GET IT DELIVERED AND YEAH, WITHIN A MONTH.
IS THAT CALL BOX GONNA BE LOCATED WHERE OUR CAMERAS ARE FOCUSED ON IT? OUR SECURITIES BUILDING SECURITY CAMERAS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE CAMERAS.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE GOT A CAMERA THAT COVERS THAT.
WELL, IN CASE OF PEOPLE WHO THINK IT'S FUNNY TO USE IT, WE MAKE CALLS, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.
WE CAN RE WE CAN RE-ANGLE THE CAMERA.
YOU THINK WE GOT ONE THAT THINK HAVE ONE AT THE FRONT DOOR? DO WE? I JUST THINK WE PRO.
WE'VE BEEN WATCHING Y'ALL ABOUT
ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN TAKE ABOUT A FIVE TO 10 MINUTE BREAK, WE'RE GONNA RESET TABLES.
SO EITHER IF YOU WANNA LEAVE YOUR STUFF, WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE YOUR TABLE OR IF YOU WANNA STACK IT SOMEWHERE AND THEN FIND A NEW SPOT.
ONCE WE, IF YOU JUST WANNA SIT, IF YOU WANNA STAY THERE BY, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA MOVE, THEY'RE ON WHEELS.
I COULDN'T HEAR 'EM BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T HEAR.
IS THAT BE HERE? I COULD BE ON A SWIVEL CHAIR.
TURN YOU PUT YOU RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO JOIN THE TABLE OR SIT IN THE BACK ROOM.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GET GOING HERE.
UM, JUST SCHEDULE WISE, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL GO AS LONG AS WE NEED TO RELATIVE TO GETTING THROUGH THE PROJECTS AND DISCUSSION OF THINGS.
UM, AS I NORMALLY SAY, WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE FAIRLY QUICKLY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL STOP AND FULLY DISCUSS ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR ISSUES ON A PROJECT.
BUT ABSENT A QUESTION, WE'LL JUST KEEP MOVING THROUGH THE BOOK.
WE DO HAVE A LUNCH COMING, UH, CHICK-FIL-A AT 1130 AND WE WILL KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AT THAT TIME, WHETHER WE FEEL WE NEED TO, TO BREAK OR WHETHER WE'RE GETTING CLOSE AND WE JUST WANNA WORK ON THROUGH.
AND I THINK LAST YEAR WE ENDED UP, MOST PEOPLE JUST GRABBED THEIR LUNCH AND WE WERE DONE AND GRABBED THEIR LUNCH AND TOOK IT.
SO WE'LL JUST SEE HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING AND MOVE FORWARD.
UH, WE ARE VIDEOING THE, THE MEETING, UH, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD.
I DON'T, IS IT, IT MAY EVEN BE LIVE STREAMING.
I DON'T THINK THEY ADVERTISE IT THAT WAY.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS GET THEIR BOOKS.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE HAD THE PDF, SO, UM, NEW FORMATS IN THE BOOK.
MORE DETAIL, ESPECIALLY IN THE CURRENT YEAR, NEXT YEAR STUFF.
YEAH, THE BINDING FALL APART WHEN YOU FLIP IT BACK
SO, UH, WE'LL START JUST IN THE INTRODUCTION PAGE, JUST KIND OF SUMMARY HIGHLIGHTS OF THE, UH, OF THE BUDGET.
UH, TOTAL FOR ALL PROGRAMS IS A LITTLE OVER $185 MILLION.
NOTE THAT THIS IS A FIVE YEAR PLAN.
PREVIOUSLY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE A SIX YEAR PLAN.
SO, UM, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT OF A APPLE TO ORANGES WHEN YOU COMPARE JUST TOTALS OF THE BUDGET.
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IS THERE A REASON WE WENT TO FIVE? COMBINATION OF THE NEW FORMAT.UH, THE FIVE FIVE IS REALLY A STANDARD THAT MOST CITIES, THESE, I, WE JUST HAD SIX, MIKE WALKER DID SIX AND WE'VE ALWAYS KEPT IT THAT WAY.
WE WERE ALWAYS FIVE AND YOU KNOW, THAT SIX YEAR HAS ALWAYS KIND OF BEEN A OUT YEAR THAT WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY IN THERE AND, AND WE KNEW THAT WAS ALWAYS GONNA CHANGE ANYWAY.
SO WE DON'T THINK WE REALLY LOST ANY PLANNING VALUE BY DROPPING TO FIVE.
UM, AND YOU SEE THE SPREAD THERE AS FAR AS THE PROGRAM AMOUNTS.
TRANSPORTATION IS USUALLY THE HIGHEST.
THOSE ARE THE BIG COST ITEMS. UH, CHRIS IS UP A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGE LARGELY BECAUSE OF MOVING THAT SECOND TANK INTO THE, INTO THE PLAN.
AND THEN FACILITIES, PARKS, UH, TECHNOLOGY AND SUCH.
UM, THAT SLIDE THERE JUST DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH MEANING MAYBE THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE GO, WE'RE COMPARING A FIVE YEAR PLAN THERE.
A SIX YEAR PLAN LAST YEAR, SIX YEAR PLAN WAS A LITTLE OVER 200 MILLION.
THIS FOR A FIVE YEAR PLAN IS, UH, AGAIN, 180 5, 4 90.
UM, AGAIN, THAT SLIDE MAY NOT HAVE AS MUCH VALUE THIS YEAR AS UH, AS IN PRIOR YEARS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM FROM THIS, THE VAST MAJORITY, OVER 75% OF IT, UH, IS LOCAL MONEY.
NOW THAT'S A VARIETY OF SOURCES.
UH, SOME OF THAT IS, SOME OF THIS WORK IS IN THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, THE MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY IS CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT COMES FROM OUR YEAR END TRANSFERS, WHERE WE ARE CONSERVATIVE IN OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
AS A RESULT, WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY OF EXCESS REVENUE AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE MOVE THAT FORWARD TO FUND NEXT YEAR'S OR MULTIPLE YEARS OUT CAPITAL PROJECTS.
BUT LOCAL MONEY ALSO INCLUDES OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT FEE, WHICH IS OUR ROAD IMPACT.
UM, FEE WOULD INCLUDE FOR UTILITIES, JUST NORMAL UTILITY REVENUES, NOT BONDS.
UH, SO THAT LOCAL ALSO INCLUDES UTILITY REVENUES.
UM, IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE ADEQUATE FACILITIES TAXES.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF ALL THE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS, BUT THE BULK OF IT IS CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, GENERAL FUND TYPE.
THIS PLAN RIGHT NOW SHOWS $27 MILLION OF BONDS, UH, OVER THE FIVE YEARS.
THE BULK OF THAT 22 MILLION RIGHT NOW IS PROGRAMMED FOR THE SECOND SEWER TANK.
THAT NUMBER WILL CHANGE MAYBE, HOPEFULLY COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A RATE STUDY IN FINANCIAL UPDATE GOING ON WITH THAT NEW PLAN.
SO THE RESULTS OF THAT WILL DICTATE, UH, TO US HOW BIG THAT BOND ISSUE NEEDS TO BE TO ABSORB THE TANK AND, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING 22 MILLION JUST AS A STARTING POINT.
THAT BOND ISSUE IS NOT PROJECTED UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 26.
SO WE'VE GOT TIME TO FINISH THE RATE STUDY THE FINANCIAL MODEL UPDATE AND THEN ADJUST THAT SIZING OF THAT BOND ISSUE IN FISCAL YEAR 26.
ALSO IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BOND ISSUE TO MAKE UP TO 27 MILLION, UM, THE NUMBER SHOULD BE 32 JUDGE SHOULDN'T IT.
UM, IS THE POTENTIAL OF OF UP TO 5 MILLION TOWARDS THE RACKET FACILITY.
AGAIN, STILL KIND OF TO BE DETERMINED WHAT THAT DYNAMIC LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT 5 MILLION IN SPLIT LOG ROAD PHASE THREE OUT IN FISCAL YEAR 28.
UM, AND THAT INTERGOVERNMENTAL IS PRIMARILY GOING TO BE STATE STREET AID FOR ROAD RESURFACING.
I HAVE SOME MONEY FROM A CM A C GRANT FOR SOME A DA AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL WORK.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONIES THAT WE PROJECT WOULD COME FROM TDOT FOR SOME FINAL FRANKLIN ROAD RIGHT OF WAY SETTLEMENTS THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE PENDING.
BUT THE BULK OF THAT IS STATE STREET AID FUNDS FOR ROAD RESURFACING.
UH, UM, SO WE TALKED ABOUT YEAR END TRANSFERS AND YOU DON'T HAVE A PAGE OF THIS.
THIS WILL EVENTUALLY BE IN A BUDGET AMENDMENT YOU SEE IN A LITTLE BIT.
WE CAN CERTAINLY GET YOU THIS LIST, UM, AHEAD OF TIME THOUGH.
BUT RIGHT NOW THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING, UH, THE CURRENT YEAR GENERAL FUND TRANSFER, UH, TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND OR OTHER FUNDS GOING FOR TO HELP FUND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
UM, AND, AND I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO DOWN, UH, BULK OF IT FRANKLIN ROAD, UH, OR I'M SORRY, RAGSDALE ROAD AGAIN.
WE HOPE TO START CONSTRUCTION OF THAT THIS FALL.
5 MILLION THERE 2 MILLION TO KIND OF START BUILDING UP FOR THE RACKET FACILITY.
DEPENDING ON, UH, REGARDLESS OF HOW THAT ENDS UP FUNDED, WE KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME MORE LOCAL MONEY PROBABLY
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GOING TO THAT.SOME MONEY TO KEEP THE OLD SRNA ROAD PROJECT MOVING.
SO THAT'S A PROJECT THAT'S SEVERAL YEARS OUT, BUT WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD UP MONEY TOWARDS, UH, FUNDING THAT PROJECT.
UH, 700,000 FOR CITY HALL 615, UH, OF VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.
ONE TIME CAPITAL PURCHASES THAT WE MOVED OUT OF OPERATING BUDGETS TO BUY ONE TIME WITHIN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND.
AND THEN THESE ARE ALL SMALLER PROJECTS THAT WE WILL GO OVER IN THE LIST HERE SHORTLY.
BRIDGES, FIBER, DRAINAGE WORK, SOME SOFTWARE THAT'S ACTUALLY A DA, IT'S THE WRONG TITLE THERE, SORRY.
UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, SOME OTHER THINGS.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT SEVERAL LARGE WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UH, SOME FUNDING SUPPLEMENTS TO OTHER FUNDS TO HELP THEM.
CORPORATE REPLACEMENT FUNDS WHAT WE USED TO MODEL A $700,000 FIRE TRUCK IS NOW 1,000,001 FIRE TRUCK.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT SOME ROOM TO MAKE UP IN THAT FUND AND SO WE UH, WANT TO KEEP PUTTING SOME CASH INTO THAT FUND TO, TO HELP US CATCH UP THERE.
SAME THING WITH STATE STREET AID.
AS WE INCREASE PAVING COSTS, STATE STREET AID REVENUES DON'T INCREASE THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE GAS TAX INCREASE, BUT THAT'S CAPPED OUT.
SO WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY INCREASE IN THE STATE STREET AID MONEY FROM THE STATE.
SO ANY INCREASES, UH, TO HELP FUND AN EVER INCREASING COMMITMENT TO STREET RESURFACING ON OUR PART WILL HAVE TO COME FROM LOCAL MONEY.
SOME OF THAT WILL BE ADDING TO TODD'S BUDGET OVER THE YEARS, UH, IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SOME OF IT WE CAN DO BY SOME ONETIME, UM, FUNDING SUPPLEMENTS FOR THAT PURPOSE, WHETHER IT'S TO THE STATE STREET AID FUND OR ENDS UP BEING A CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, WE'RE NOT SURE, BUT, SO WE'RE SHOWING 500 THERE, 500 TO FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.
UH, AGAIN, WE BRING IN MORE FACILITIES ONLINE.
UM, SO WE, AND, AND LARGER PROJECTS ARE EATING INTO THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE FUNDS.
SO JUST WANT TO BUILD UP THAT CASH BALANCE THERE.
AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, VEHICLES BEING PURCHASED, UH, THAT WILL END UP IN THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, BUT WE'VE GOTTA BUY THEM UP FRONT FIRST BEFORE THEY'RE IN THE FUND.
SO WITH THE STATE STREET FUND AND YOU MENTIONED THE GAS TAX, UM, THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, UM, GOT A NEW HYBRID AND HE WENT TO REGISTER HIS CAR AND HE HAD TO PAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS EXTRA.
DID WE GET A PORTION OF THAT A HUNDRED DOLLARS OR IS THAT JUST GAS TAX LOSS FOR US? I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, BUT I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
UM, IN THEORY IT'S LOGIC IS THAT IT'S TO REPLACE, RIGHT.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE GETTING OUR LITTLE SHARE OF THAT, BUT I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW.
CAN WE GET A COPY OF THIS? YEAH, WE CAN.
LIKE DURING THIS MEETING? YEAH.
OH, WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT JAY.
UM, WE'LL GET IT FOR YOU BEFORE YOU LEAVE.
UM, SO THAT ALL ADDS UP TO ABOUT 14 POINT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, AS WE GET CLOSER TO JUNE, UM, WE WILL FINALIZE WHAT WE THINK OUR CURRENT YEAR BUDGET LOOKS LIKELY THAT WE'LL HAVE MORE THAN 14 POINT A HALF THAT WE COULD TRANSFER.
SO, UH, WE'LL DECIDE AT THAT POINT TO RECOMMEND TO YOU, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL ADVANCED FUNDING ON SOME OF THE BIGGER PROJECTS OR SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING THERE.
EITHER WAY, UM, WE DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO KEEP BUILDING A FUND BALANCE NECESSARILY.
SO, UM, WHAT YOU SEE IN JUNE FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT MAY END UP BEING A RECOMMENDED TRANSFER IN EXCESS OF THAT NUMBER RIGHT THERE.
THIS IS A RECAP AS WE'RE GETTING STARTED.
SO AS WE SWITCH FROM A SIX YEAR PLAN TO A FIVE YEAR PLAN, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE ADDED WITH THE, THE CURRENT ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR FOR EACH OF THOSE FIVE YEARS ON AVERAGE VERSUS WHAT WAS LAST YEAR'S SIX YEAR PLAN.
AND A LOT OF THAT IS IN THE, UM, THE ROAD WORK IN THE, IN THE PARK AND RECREATION.
I WOULD SAY THE BULK OF IT WOULD BE 20 SOME MILLION DOLLARS OF A SEWER TANK.
SO BULK IS PULLING, SO PULLING THAT TANK OVER.
AND PROBABLY IN ROAD PROJECT TOO, BUT OKAY.
THAT TANK WAS NOT IN LAST YEAR'S PLAN.
SO WAS IT THE SIX YEAR PLAN? IT WAS IN THERE SOMEWHERE, WASN'T IT? IT WAS BEGINNING JUST THE ENGINE, I THINK ENGINEERING.
JUST THE ENGINEERING AND SO, SO BY HAVING SOMETHING THAT BIG, IT WAS JUST THE BACK OF IT, IT WAS A SMALLER IMPACT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ON AVERAGE, YEAH.
SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR 29, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND THEN YOU MOVED IT UP, PUSHED IT UP ABOUT THREE YEARS.
SO WE WILL CORRECT THAT LIST AND GET IT PRINTED OUT FOR YOU BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY OR BEFORE THE END OF THE MEETING.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT BOND ISSUES.
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GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO PROJECTS, UH, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.AND AGAIN, WE KIND OF JUST FLIPPED THROUGH PAGE BY PAGE.
I'VE ASKED DEPARTMENT HEADS TO, UH, ON SOME OF THE SMALLER THINGS OR KIND OF THAT ARE MORE RECURRING OR ARE FUTURE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
WE'LL KIND OF MOVE OVER THOSE FAIRLY QUICKLY.
UM, BUT AGAIN, STOP AT ANY POINT WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
SO WE'RE GONNA START, UH, WITH GENERAL FACILITIES BEHIND THAT TAB.
UM, YOU SEE KIND OF A SUMMARY THERE IN GENERAL.
FACILITIES, AGAIN, ABOUT 20, A LITTLE OVER $24 MILLION.
UM, SO STARTING ON PAGE 26 IS COMMUNITY IDENTITY FEATURES.
THIS IS PRIMARILY OUR ENTRY SIGNAGE.
UH, WE DIDN'T, WE HAD FUNDED SOME THINGS IN THE, IN A FEW PRIOR YEARS, UH, AND NEVER MOVED FORWARD WITH IT.
WE GAVE CHARLES A PASS ON HIS FIRST YEAR, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THIS YEAR.
UH, SO WE'RE REALLY, AND WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE DISCUSSION TOO MUCH HERE, BUT NEED TO DECIDE WHAT Y'ALL WANNA DO.
WE'VE GOT SOME LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE EXISTING SIGNS THAT ARE GETTING PRETTY LONG IN THE TOOTH.
UH, WE HAD A COUPLE OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAD IDENTIFIED THE POTENTIAL FOR A NEW SIGN.
UH, AND REALLY I THINK IT'S ON US, IF WANT THE PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD, TO COME TO YOU WITH SOME DESIGN IDEAS, COSTS, THINGS THAT WILL BE TDOT ACCEPTABLE.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T DO CERTAIN THINGS IN THERE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN YOU ALL CAN DECIDE WHETHER YOU WILL WITH IT OR NOT.
I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST STEP IS GETTING SOME CONSISTENCY AND UNIFORMITY.
IF YOU'VE GOT THESE SIGNS THAT ARE ALL OVER THE BOARD, SOMEBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A SIGN AND SEE THAT IT IS A BRENTWOOD SIGN.
UH, AND IT HAS SOME CONSISTENT BRANDING, UH, BUILT INTO IT.
UH, AND THEN THAT IS, IT IS WHAT IT IS GOING FORWARD.
UM, BECAUSE THESE SIGNS ARE JUST ALL OVER THE PORT AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL IT'S A BRENTWOOD SIGN.
YEAH, AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE TOP OF THERE IS WHAT YOU HAVE WILSON PIKE, UH, AND THEN I THINK THAT'S ALSO AT CONCORD CON STILL THERE.
THESE ARE THE ONES AT FRANKLIN AND, UM, MARYLAND, WHITE CHURCH STREET.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF WILSON PIKE OR CONCORD ROAD INTERCHANGE, BUT WHAT WE'LL TEE THAT EXCEPT WHAT'S A GOOD LOOK? WHAT'S THE COST? AND THEN YOU ALL CAN GIVE US SOME DIRECTION FROM THERE.
GIVEN THE VARIETY OF SIGNS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE IN TERMS OF SIZE OR WHATEVER.
IF WE CAN THINK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA LOOK CONSISTENT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, IF IT HAS TO BE A SMALLER ONE VERSUS THESE OR WHATEVER.
JUST SOMETHING THAT TIES IT IN, YOU KNOW, KNOWING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT SIZE ON SOME THINGS AND DURABILITY, BECAUSE AGAIN, THESE, YOU KNOW, THESE JUST HAVE WEATHERED AND, AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME, BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY WEATHERED.
AND THIS IS EXCLUSIVE OF THE NEW SIGNS THAT I SEE AROUND TOWN THAT HAVE NEW, NEW RIGHT.
NOT FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL THIS WAY.
NOT LIMITS THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS WE JUST FUNDED THROUGH TODD'S.
THOSE LOOK REALLY GOOD IN THE CITY LIMITS SIGNS, JUST UPDATING THE LOGO AND THE, THE APPEARANCE AND THOSE LOOK GREAT.
THANK THIS IS THE GATEWAY ENTRANCEWAY TYPE SIGN IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT UNIFORMITY CONSISTENCY, UM, WELL SEE UNIFORMITY, SAFETY, DURABILITY AND LOW MAINTENANCE.
FIND BALANCE, FIND, TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING.
IT ALSO CAN BE BUILT IN A WAY THAT, UH, TDOT YEAH.
AND THE SAFETY, SAFETY STANDARDS WILL ALLOW FOR YOU.
YEAH, I'D HATE TO HIT THAT, THAT BLACK ONE, THE CAR.
BUT YEAH, THEY WON'T ALLOW FOR A, A CONCRETE STONE SIGN.
SO NOW THERE ARE OTHER MATERIALS YOU CAN PUT ON THAT KIND OF WILL LOOK A LITTLE LIKE THAT, THAT ARE MORE, BUT ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT THE INFORMATION OF WHAT TDOT WILL ALLOW.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT 115,000 DEPENDING ON WHAT WE SELECT, WOULD GET EVERY SIGN REPLACED, BUT IT'S A STARTING POINT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT MOST OF THAT ALREADY ACCUMULATED JUST FROM PRIOR YEARS.
ALL RIGHT, CHARLES, YOU'VE TAKING NOTES? YEAH, I GOT IT ALL.
YOU GOT SKETCHED OUT ALREADY? YEAH, I'VE GOT SOME ASIDE FOR YOU.
UM, COMMUNITY, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A SLIDE FOR NEXT PAGE 28 COMMUNITY PLANNING.
THIS IS, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE, IN THE, UM, NEXT YEAR, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD PUT SOME FUNDING TOWARDS.
WE'RE SHOWING SOME MONEY IN FISCAL YEAR 26 FOR A SPECIAL CENSUS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THE VIABILITY OF A SPECIAL CENSUS THESE DAYS, UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE RESPONSE.
SEVERAL COMMUNITIES HAVE TRIED IT.
I MEAN THEY WERE STRUGGLING TO GET TO THEIR WHATEVER NUMBER, 18,000 OR SO.
PEOPLE JUST WON'T RESPOND, UM, LIKE THEY DID IN THE PAST.
AND UNLESS YOU'RE PREPARED TO GO DOOR TO DOOR AND EVEN THEN THEY DON'T
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RESPOND.I THINK WE'LL JUST HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S, WE REAL REALLY THINK THAT, UM, WE CAN GET A GOOD CENSUS THAT WILL ACTUALLY SHOW AN INCREASE IN POPULATION BASED UPON THE RESPONSE FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
YEAH, I MEAN WE INVOLVED FIRE DEPARTMENT AND MM-HMM.
I MEAN THEY DIDN'T DO, THEY DO, WE DIDN'T DO CITYWIDE.
WE HEAR AS MUCH AS WE DID IN THE PAST.
YEAH, IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT, THE, IT'D BE EASY IF ALL YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
YOU GOTTA HAVE NAMES AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE RELUCTANT TO GIVE YOU.
UM, SO PEOPLE ARE JUST SKEPTICAL IN GENERAL, SKEPTICAL OF GOVERNMENT PARTICULARLY OF PROVIDING THAT KIND OF INFORMATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF WHAT YOU WANNA GET IS JUST THE PEOPLE DO IT VOLUNTARILY ONLINE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING MORE.
UM, BUT THAT PARTICIPATION GETS LOWER AND LOWER.
COLUMBIA JUST CONTRACTED DIRECTLY WITH THE US CENSUS BUREAU TO DO ONE FOR THEM.
AND IT WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THEM TO DO IT.
UM, SMALLER COMMUNITIES, IT'S A LITTLE EASIER.
LARGER COMMUNITIES, A FEW HAVE TRIED AND THEY, THEY'VE QUIT BECAUSE THEIR JUST RESPONSE HAS BEEN NOT GREAT, BUT SOME MONEY'S THERE.
UM, AND THEN WE GOT MONEY IN 27.
WE'VE HAD THAT OUT THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
IS AS WE GET TO CLOSER TO 2030, IS IS THERE SOME LEVEL OF A, OF A UPDATE REVIEW OF THE 2030 PLAN AND THAT'S WHAT THAT MONEY WOULD BE IN FISCAL YEAR 27.
STILL TO BE DEFINED IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, WHAT IT WOULD AND WHAT THE SCOPE WOULD BE.
PAGE 30, EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES.
THIS IS WHERE WE CONSOLIDATE A LOT OF CAPITAL VEHICLE PURCHASES.
I'LL LET JAY KIND OF REVIEW WHAT WE GOT HERE.
SO COMMISSIONERS RECALL THAT WE INCLUDE BOTH EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND VEHICLES.
VEHICLES WE'VE BEEN SAVING TO REPLACE IN ADDITION TO OPERATING VEHICLES.
THOSE THAT WOULD NORMALLY APPEAR THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET DOCUMENT IN AN OPERATING LINE ITEM FOR DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT WE DON'T INCLUDE IN THE EQUIVALENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
THOSE WOULD BE SHOWN HERE AS WELL.
WE DO THAT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THESE ANNUAL OR EVERY COUPLE OF THREE YEARS BLIPS IN PEOPLE'S OPERATING BUDGETS.
THEY DON'T REPLACE VEHICLES VERY OFTEN.
ENGINEERING WOULD BE THE SAME.
AND SO WE THINK ALL THOSE VEHICLES MAY PUT 'EM OVER IN, UH, OVER IN HERE.
AND THE MONIES COME IN THE FORM OF A TRANSFER FROM GENERAL FUND EXCESS REVENUES AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND.
OR IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A, A VEHICLE THAT'S NEW AND IT'S GONNA BE ADDED TO THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, WE'LL TRANSFER IT TO THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
SO YOU KIND OF HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR THE VEHICLES THAT ARE SHOWN IN HERE.
UM, YOU SAW THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS SURPLUS NINE VEHICLES AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE 2024 EXPENDITURE DE DETAIL THAT THEY HAVE, UH, NINE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES IN 24.
THEY ALSO JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE NINE COMING UP IN 25 AS WELL.
IN 25 THEY'LL ALSO HAVE FOUR NEW VEHICLES.
BUT YOU SAW THAT LAST YEAR AND THAT'S A CARRY FORWARD FROM LAST YEAR BECAUSE THE VEHICLES SIMPLY WON'T BE DELIVERED IN TIME.
SO THEY NEED TO BE SHOWN IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AS WELL.
AND THAT KIND OF GOES WITH THE FOUR PORTABLE RADIOS, WHICH YOU SAW AS WELL.
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ALSO ASKING FOR A UTILITY TASK VEHICLE THAT'S KIND OF A SIDE BY SIDE VEHICLE FOR $20,000.
THEIR AR PATTERN RIFLES NEED TO BE REPLACED.
AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT LINE ITEMS, YOU OF COURSE WE'VE GOT THE CHIEF AND OTHERS HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
BUT THIS WOULD BE A REPLACEMENT OF THEIR AR AR PATTERN RIFLES FOR 85,000.
FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS, UH, SEVERAL PIECES.
THEY'VE GOT A, A TAHOE, SOME EXTRICATION EQUIPMENT EMERGENCY BAILOUT SYSTEM AND THE CASCADE SYSTEM FOR STATION ONE DO A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE IN UH, GIS PARKS, AN F-150 REPLACEMENT AND A HEAVY DUTY UTB ALSO PARKS.
THEY HAVE A ZERO TURN MOWER AND A CHIPPER MACHINE SERVICE CENTER, F-150.
RECALL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO, IN-HOUSE, BRENT'S POSITION AND IN ORDER TO BRING HIM ON BOARD, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A VEHICLE FOR HIM.
AND THAT'S WHERE THIS WOULD BE SHOWN AS WELL AS A SCISSOR LIFT.
WE HAVE ONE SCISSOR LIFT NOW WE HAVE TO MOVE IT AROUND A LOT AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE TWO SCISSOR LIFTS TO POSITION IN DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND THE CITY AND PUBLIC WORKS.
THIS IS A KIND OF A HIGH DOLLAR ITEM, A ROUGH CUT MOWER FOR 225,000.
TODD IS CONTINUING SOME OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE FUNDS ACCUMULATED IN THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND FOR.
SO IT'S REALLY ONLY A NET IMPACT OF ABOUT $50,000 TO US TO DO THIS ROUGH CUT MOWER.
WHAT'S A SCISSOR LIFT? THE SCISSOR LIFT THAT, UM, IT'S GOT
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A PLATFORM THAT BASICALLY RAISES UP OH, FOR INTERIOR, LIKE BUILDING SCAFFOLDING.INSIDE INTERIOR LIBRARY'S HIGH CEILINGS.
AND BAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
DOES THE RIFLE REPLACEMENT, DOES THAT COVER EVERY OFFICER THAT IS LIKE ON THE ROAD NEEDS IT? ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THERE'S A TRADE-IN VALUE WE'RE ESTIMATING, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
THERE IS A TRADE-IN VALUE OF OUR OLD RIFLE.
SO THE, THE, THE COST IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT WE GET SOME TRADE IN VALUE FOR OUR OLD ONES.
AND HOW MANY, IS THIS JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY? WHAT'S THIS? THE AMOUNT OF RIFLES YOU'LL GET? 60.
SO ALL THAT TOTAL IS 1.69 MILLION.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NEXT UP IS FIRE STATIONS.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT TO REPORT HERE.
THERE'S NOTHING PROPOSED FOR 2025.
UH, 24 EXPENDITURES HAVE INCLUDED, OF COURSE THE FINAL PAYMENT TO THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR ON STATION FIVE.
AND THEN STATION TWO HAD TO INSTALL A SAND OIL SEPARATOR FOR A, UH, FOR DRAIN THAT COMES OUT OF THE BAY.
UM, WHATEVER COMES OUTTA THAT DRAIN WILL NOW BE INTERCEPTED BY A SANDAL SEPARATOR, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE CASE ALL ALONG.
I JUST SAY THERE AGAIN, I'M 33 NOW.
THE FISCAL YEAR 27 NUMBER IS JUST SOME PRELIMINARY FUNDING TO START LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OF STATION TWO.
UH, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE NOW THAT THAT'LL BE 40 YEARS OLD LIBRARY.
OKAY, OVER, WE'RE AT THE LIBRARY.
UH, IT IS ABOUT TIME TO GO AHEAD AND REPLACE THE FLAT ROOF SECTION.
AS I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS DEALING WITH ROOFS OVER THERE.
UM, THESE ARE THE TWO SECTIONS THAT ARE ON THE OLDER PART OF THE LIBRARY.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER, THIS SECTION HERE IS NOT INCLUDED IN WHAT WOULD BE DONE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE EXPANSION AREA AND WE DON'T NEED TO REPLACE THAT PORTION OF THE ROOF YET.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT PLUGGED IN FOR NEXT YEAR AT, UH, A BALLPARK OF $525,000.
AND THAT'S AN ESTIMATE WE'VE GOT FROM GARLAND COMPANY WHO HAS DONE A NUMBER OF OUR ROOF ROOF PROJECTS IN THE PAST.
AND THIS RIGHT HERE IS, IS HOT OFF THE PRESS PHOTO TAKEN YESTERDAY OF THE SOFFIT EXPANSION JOINT WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AT THE LIBRARY NOW.
WE'RE DOING THE FIRST PHASE THIS YEAR.
THE SECOND PHASE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO ALL THE REST OF IT NEXT YEAR.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE CALL THAT THIS IS A KIND OF A CONTINUOUS SOFFIT WITH NO ROOM FOR EXPANSION OF THE, THE DRYWALL THAT HAS BEEN TAPED AND JOINTED TOGETHER.
SO, SO THERE'S NO WAY FOR IT TO BREATHE.
SO WE WIND UP WITH THESE CRACKS AND THESE PROBLEMS THAT DEVELOP AND THIS IS A RETROFIT, IF YOU WILL, TO HOPEFULLY SOLVE THAT GOING FORWARD.
SO PHASE TWO IS PROGRAMMED IN NEXT YEAR FOR 30 GRAND.
WE ALWAYS THROW IN 75,000 FOR EXTRAORDINARY REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.
UH, I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO YOU AND TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO DO MORE OF THE ABOVE CEILING SENSORS AND DAMPERS TO HELP PROTECT THE LIBRARY FROM EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS, UH, DURING FREEZING WEATHER.
IT REALLY HELPED US THIS LAST YEAR.
WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE REST OF THE AREAS THAT ARE LIKE THAT, UH, IN TERMS OF THE ROOF STRUCTURE COVERED BY SENSORS AND DAMPERS.
SORRY TO BACK UP JUST A SMIDGEN ON THE NEW PICTURE THERE.
YOU SAID DRYWALL, IS THAT SOFFIT MADE OF DRYWALL? IT'S BASICALLY DRYWALL, EXTERIOR SOFFIT MADE OF DRYWALL.
IT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL DRY WALL.
LIKE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE SHOWER DRYWALL IF YOU WILL, HOW YOU CAN HAVE IT MADE FROM MOIST LOCATIONS.
IT'S NOT JUST, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING
IT'S GYPSUM BOARD, BUT IT'S MADE FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND THEN, UM, INSTALLATION OF ELECTRIC SERVICE TO THE NEW CHRISTMAS TREE.
AT SOME POINT WE KNOW YOU'RE GONNA ASK US TO GO AHEAD AND DECORATE THAT TREE.
UH, WE, RIGHT NOW THE PLAN IS TO, TO CONTINUE TO DECORATE THE OLD TREE AT LEAST FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO.
BUT THE TIME IS COMING WHEN WE'LL NEED TO TO SWITCH OVER AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RUN THE ELECTRIC IN 25.
IS THAT, WHY DON'T WE DO IT IN 25 INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL THE YEAR THAT WE PLAN TO DO IT? WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE THE TREE TIME TO ESTABLISH BEFORE WE BEGIN STRESSING IT.
THAT'S WHY WOULD WE RUN THE ELECTRIC, THE ELECTRIC TODAY? OH, INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL THE YEAR THAT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO LIGHT THE TREE, THERE'S NO REASON WE WERE JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND KNOCK IT OUT AND GET IT DONE IN THE EVENT THAT IT STARTS TO LOOK REALLY BAD, YOU KNOW, OVER THIS NEXT YEAR AND YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND MOVE.
WE WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF YOU A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE A PLAN HERE, BUT THAT, I MEAN THE, THE OLD TREE, SOMETHING BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER COULD HAPPEN TO IT.
SO WE WANNA JUST BE READY WHENEVER IN CASE WE HAVE TO DO IT SOONER, I THINK.
HOW ARE WE FEELING ABOUT THE NEW TREE? BECAUSE I STILL, I SAW IT THE OTHER DAY.
I WAS LIKE, I REALLY HOPE THAT'S TAKING THERE.
SEEMS TO, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS WHEN I SAW IT AND IT'S NOT SPRING YET, BUT SHOULD WE PLAN ANOTHER BACKUP TREE IS MY CONCERN.
WELL, SO, SO UH, RECALL WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING THIS TREE, WE SAID AT ABOUT SEVEN YEAR INTERVALS.
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GOT NOTES IN OUR, IN OUR PROGRAMMING HERE TO PLAN FOR THE BACKUP TREE.AND SO ABOUT EVERY SEVEN YEARS OR SO, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE NEXT TREE STARTED.
SO EVERGREEN HAVE HAD REAL DIFFICULTY IN OUR AREA THE LAST, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE LOST SEVERAL IN MY YARD TO DISEASE AND THAT'S STRESS OF EVEN THAT WHERE IT WENT FROM 70 DEGREES TO WHATEVER IT WAS, SIX BELOW ZERO ON THAT CHRISTMAS EVE MORNING.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY REALLY WISE.
SO WE'RE FIVE TO SIX YEARS OUT FROM PLANNING THE NEXT ONE.
UM, BUT SO, SO WHEN WE MOVE TO THE NEW ONE, CUT DOWN THE EXISTING ONE AND REPLANT THERE AND JUST BE ABLE TO MOVE BACK AND FORTH, I GUESS PROBABLY
ACTUALLY, IF YOU PLAN ON THAT SITE, UNLESS YOU MOVE IT OVER, YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO WAIT ABOUT TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS.
'CAUSE THEN YOU WANT TO TAKE ON TOP OF THE WHOLE ROOF.
SAME GENERAL AREA IF YOU WILL, BUT UM, WE'D MOVE IT OVER.
I SEE A CHILDREN'S BOOK OUT OF THIS SCENARIO.
THE TRAVELING CHRISTMAS TREE
ANY FURTHER LIBRARY QUESTIONS? I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE NOTED WE DID ADD GUTTERS TO THE KIRK WALL AREA IN THE BACK AS WELL.
UH, ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE ON TO PAGE 37, UM, WHICH IS CITY HALL OR WANNA SPEND A LITTLE TIME HERE BOTH ON THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT ALSO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGE YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN THE OPERATING BUDGET TOO.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, UP TILL NOW THE MUNICIPAL CENTER HAS BEEN A SEPARATE FUND, ACTUALLY AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
UM, AND THAT GOES BACK TO WHEN WE WERE RENTING SPACE, THE MAJORITY OF THE SPACE TO PRIVATE, UM, TENANTS.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE CASE ANYMORE.
SO, BUT TO THE RENOVATION PROJECT, YOU WILL HAVE A CONTRACT ON YOUR APRIL 22ND AGENDA TO APPROVE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE RENOVATION PROJECT.
UH, WE TOOK BIDS TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO.
I HAD MULTIPLE BIDS, UM, GOOD TIGHT BIDS.
THE TWO BIDS FIRST AND SECOND BIDS WERE $28,000 APART ON A FOUR PLUS MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT.
SO THAT MADE US FEEL LIKE WE WERE GETTING GOOD BIDS.
TOTAL CONSTRUCTION BID, UH, 4,286,000.
UH, NOW THAT, THAT, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE FURNITURE, THAT FURNITURE IS BEING BID RIGHT NOW.
THAT'LL BE A SEPARATE CONTRACT.
UH, THERE WAS SOME EQUIPMENT THAT WE'LL BUY DIRECT, WE'LL HAVE TO DO NEW SECURITY AT CERTAIN DOORS AND ALL THAT.
SO THAT'LL BE A DIRECT COST TO US.
WE'LL BUY SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT LIKE, UH, MONITORS AND STUFF FOR CONFERENCE ROOMS. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME DIRECT COSTS THERE.
UH, WE GOT A LITTLE MORE DESIGN COSTS WE NEED TO CATCH UP WITH IN, IN TERMS OF THE SCOPE THAT WAS ADDED OR COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECT.
FIRE ALARM SYSTEM WAS NOT ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED IN THE DESIGN FEE, UH, RENOVATION OF THE MEN'S LOCKER ROOM, SHOWER AREA WAS NOT, OR SO WE'VE GOT SOME DESIGN, UH, CONTRACT UPDATES THAT WE NEED TO DO TO CATCH UP WITH OUR ARCHITECT COSTS.
AND THEN WE WANNA BUILD IN A LITTLE BIT OF CONTINGENCY INTO THAT.
SO ROLLING IT ALL INTO TOGETHER, INCLUDING DESIGN WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE AND APPROVED.
WE'RE PROJECTING SOMEWHERE RIGHT AT FOUR $5.4 MILLION, UH, FOR THE RENOVATION PROJECT.
THE CONTRACT YOU WILL SEE WILL JUST BE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT, UH, AT 4,000,286.
YOU'LL SEE A FURNITURE CONTRACT SOMETIME SHORTLY AFTER THAT AND A, UH, DESIGN AMENDMENT, UH, AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT THE 5.4 INCLUDES FURNITURE, MY ESTIMATE OF OF FURNITURE, I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE BID YET.
HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT GONNA BE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS WHERE THAT'S FUNDED FROM, REMEMBER, UM, SO THE MUNICIPAL CENTER FUND AS A CASH BALANCE, UM, THAT'S ACCUMULATED 'CAUSE WE BUDGET DEPRECIATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THAT CASH BALANCE IS SOMEWHERE AROUND $4 MILLION ROUGHLY.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE 2.7 OF THAT MONEY.
THERE WAS 2 MILLION THAT WAS PART OF LA LAST YEAR'S YEAR END TRANSFER ALREADY.
AND THEN THERE WAS 700,000 SHOWN IN THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED TRANSFER TO GET TO THAT 5.4 NUMBER.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE THE FUNDING PLAN FOR THE, FOR THOSE NUMBERS.
UM, BACK UP, YOU'RE USING 2 MILLION OF THE BALANCE.
2.7 OF THE MUNICIPAL CENTER FUND BALANCE, 2 MILLION THAT WE TRANSFERRED A YEAR AGO FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE MUNICIPAL
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CENTER FUND.AND THEN THERE'S 700,000 THAT IS IN THIS YEAR'S THAT, ON THAT LIST WE JUST SHOWED YOU, THAT GETS YOU TO 5.4 MILLION.
SO YOU'RE LEAVING A COUPLE MILLION, ABOUT 1.3 MILLION.
AND THEN THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UM, THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS IN THE, IN THE BUDGET YOU GET FOR THE, THE REGULAR BUDGET, WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND DOING AWAY WITH THE MUNICIPAL
AND DOING THAT THOUGH, THEN THE GENERAL FUND BECOMES, OR THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE FUND BECOMES RESPONSIBLE FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THIS BUILDING.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE OTHER 1.3 MILLION OR SO OF THAT FUND BALANCE, WE WANNA KIND OF PRE-FUND FUTURE MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS, UM, FOR THIS BUILDING ONCE IT BECOMES PART OF THE GENERAL FUND, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
COULD YOU REITERATE WHAT WE ARE NOT DOING IN THIS PROJECT THAT WE POSTPONED TO OH EIGHT DATE? WELL, UNFORTUNATELY THE SLIDE HERE IS, IS THE FIRST FLOOR
UH, WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING IS ANYTHING ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO THE CITY MANAGER, CITY COMMISSION AREA WHERE JAY AND KRISTEN ARE OR WHERE ENGINEERING IS KIND OF THAT FRONT WESTERN TWO THIRDS OF OF SALE.
SO THE LOBBY IS BASICALLY THE LOBBY, SECOND FLOOR LOBBY AND BE REMODELED, I'M SORRY, LOCKER ROOM.
LOCKER ROOM STUFF OVER HERE AND A LITTLE BIT OF WORK IN FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR OLD BUNK AREA AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE A FUTURE PHASE AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
WHY, WHY AREN'T WE DOING AWAY WITH THE FUND? THAT SEEMS TO PUTTING IT BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
WHY, WHAT IT, IT REALLY SERVES NO PURPOSE AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND ANYMORE.
UM, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OUTSIDE RENTS, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE AMBULANCE BAY DOWN THERE, SO THEY PAY A FEW $20,000 OR SO A YEAR.
WILLIAMSON COUNTY OR EMS MM-HMM.
SO IT'S, IT, IT, YOU'RE JUST, WE'RE TRANSFERRING MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO IT CHARGING ITSELF DEPRECIATION, IT JUST A CASH BALANCE THAT CAN'T BE USED ANYWHERE ELSE.
SO WE'LL BRING IT INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
WE WON'T, WE'LL THEN ELIMINATE OUR TRANSFER TO THAT FUND UNTIL THEN.
THAT ACTUALLY IS PROBABLY A POSITIVE TO THE GENERAL FUND FROM AN OPERATING STANDPOINT AND WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP PUT SOME MONEY IN RESERVE FOR LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE OF IT ALL.
SO IT JUST, IT IT HELPS EASIER ACCOUNTING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE ONLY REASON TO DO IT, BUT IT'S JUST WE'RE MOVING MONEY AROUND AND AND BUDGETING FOR DEPRECIATION FOR SOMETHING THAT REALLY DOESN'T SEEM WE NEED TO DO IT ANYMORE.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST MOVING MONEY AROUND, BUT WHY, WHY WOULD THESE LOCKERS, WHICH ARE PART OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, NOT COME UNDER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET THE WAY IT WOULD IF IT WERE IN ANOTHER STATION AND THEY WERE DOING REMODELING THERE? WELL, BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THIS BUILDING AS ONE UNIT FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, I GOT IT FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT AND THAT WILL CONTINUE.
SO THERE'LL BE A, RIGHT NOW I'M SORRY.
UM, SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT THAT HAPPENS IN THE FINANCE AREA, IT GETS CHARGED TO THE MUNICIPAL CENTER, NOT TO FINANCE.
NOW IF THEY WANNA BUY A FILE CABINET OR SOMETHING, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
BUT ANY STRUCTURAL TYPE IMPROVEMENTS GET CHARGED TO THE CENTER.
SO IT'LL BE JUST LIKE WE ALREADY HAVE A SERVICE CENTER ACTIVITY IN THE GENERAL FUND.
WE HAVE A SAFETY CENTER EAST ACTIVITY IN THE GENERAL FUND.
WE'LL NOW HAVE A MUNICIPAL CENTER ACTIVITY IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO AT, AT THE SAFETY AT THE UM, GEORGE PATTON SAFETY CENTER SERVICE CENTER.
IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF FIRE BUDGET AT ALL.
IT'S NOT SEPARATED OUT UNLESS THEY FIRE VERSUS PARKS, UNLESS THEY WANNA BUY SOMETHING UNIQUE LITTLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
BUT UTILITIES, IF WE REMODEL THE KITCHEN, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT ALL GOES TO THE SERVICE CENTER BUDGET OR CAPITAL BUDGET.
BUT WE COULD, IF WE CHOSE TO, WE COULD ACCOUNT IT ALL OUT SEPARATELY AND WE COULD PULL FIRE OUT, WE COULD PULL UH, TODD'S PEOPLE OUT.
WE COULD PULL PARKS OUT AND THEN WE WOULD KNOW WHICH HOW IT WAS ALL WORKING WITH THOSE LINE ITEMS. YEAH, WE COULD IF WE CHOSE.
BUT, BUT YOU END UP WITH A BUNCH OF SHARED COSTS THAT YOU THEN GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT'S YOUR COST ALLOCATION FOR UTILITIES OR LIKE WATER FOR AN HVAC UNIT THAT SERVES MULTIPLE AREAS, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO IT'S JUST EASIER TO ACCOUNT FOR A SHARED BUILDING AS ONE UNIT.
BUT YES YOU COULD, BUT WE COULD IF WE CHOSE.
NOW WE DO CHARGE CHRIS RENT FOR THE SERVICING.
I'M JUST PAYING RENT BECAUSE HE'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND
EVERYBODY ELSE IS JUST KIND OF ACCUMULATED INTO THAT.
SO CHRIS, YOU MENTIONED WE'RE CARVING OUT THE SECOND FLOOR WORK, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICES, THE BACK HALL ENGINEERING, BUT THAT'S ALSO SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S THE MOST OUT OF DATE IN TERMS OF BEING EARLY NINETIES, YOU KNOW, IF NOT OLDER FURNITURE AND AND OTHER STUFF.
DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT OR SETTING OUT FOR TRYING TO BRING ALL OF IT UP TO DATE TO HELP IT BE A BETTER, MORE
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ATTRACTIVE WORKPLACE AND, AND FLOW BETTER? UM, NO, I MEAN WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT SHOWING A, A PHASE TWO PROJECT IN THIS CIP RIGHT NOW.I MEAN IT OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE A FUTURE YEAR.
SO, UH, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE, I THINK I'D LIKE TO GET THROUGH THIS ONE AND SEE HOW IT GOES AND, AND, AND THE RESULTS OF IT TO SEE IF WE'RE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE GOT OUT OF IT.
IT'S JUST SO, SO OBVIOUS THAT OUTTA DATE COMPARED TO OTHER WORK AREAS.
'CAUSE THIS WILL ESSENTIALLY, UM, SO HERE'S FINANCE.
THIS IS CODES TECH AND EVERY, WHEN THE OLD POLICE ADMIN BASICALLY THAT BLACK LINE THERE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PLANNING ON OUR END TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY 'CAUSE WE GOTTA MOVE PEOPLE AROUND, WE GOTTA MOVE STUFF OUT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BUNCH OF, THERE'S A LITTLE EXTRA COST THAT WASN'T IN MY NUMBER THAT UM, I THINK WE'LL ABSORB IT IN OUR EQUIPMENT TO GET SOME RENTAL STORAGE UNITS AND STUFF IN THE BACK TO MOVE STUFF OUT.
BUT REALLY FROM THAT BLACK LINE TO THE WEST EDGE OF THE BUILDING WILL BE GUTTED AND REDONE.
FINANCE WILL HAVE STAY IN ITS GENERAL CONFIGURATION.
WE'LL BE PUTTING IN ONE NEW OFFICE AND UPDATING APP FINISHES.
OF COURSE THE LOBBY GETS REDONE AND THEN ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, THE LOCKER ROOM AND, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT REALLY THE WESTERN HALF OF THE BUILDING ON THE FIRST FLOOR WILL BE, EVERYBODY WILL BE VACATED FROM THERE OTHER THAN THE SERVER ROOM, WHICH IS PROTECTED AND HAS ITS OWN HVAC AND EVERYTHING.
EVERYBODY ELSE WILL VACATE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, MOVE TO DIFFERENT PLACES IN THIS BUILDING OR OTHER BUILDINGS.
UH, AND THAT'LL BE GUTTED AND AND REDONE.
UH, THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO OTHER PHASES KIND OF PIECEMEAL IT.
BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, NELSON, I MEAN REALLY I THINK THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION.
I MEAN I THINK THE STAFF WHO'S AFFECTED BY THAT, I OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT BE, UM, WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I SEEMS TO ME WE MAKE SENSE TO, LET'S SEE WHAT, WHAT WE GET WITH THE FIRST PHASE AND, AND HOW THAT LOOKS.
HOW BAD DOES IT MAKE THE OTHER PART LOOK THAT WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED? 'CAUSE THE OTHER PART WE'RE NOT TOUCHING IS THIS ROOM AND THAT ROOM.
UH, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A MUCH BIGGER DISCUSSION TOO.
SO I GUESS YOU COULD CONSIDER, ONCE WE GET THAT DONE, DOES THE PART WE DROPPED OUT OF THIS PLUS THOSE TWO ROOMS BECOME A, A PHASE TWO AND, AND IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF, OF FUNDING AND HOW MUCH YOU WANNA SPEND ON IT, BUT, WELL, IT SEEMS MORE, I MEAN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS IN THIS ROOM ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT YOU DO FROM THE KITCHEN ON BACK.
RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART.
AND, AND THAT'S, I PRESUME THAT WHATEVER WE'RE DOING DOWNSTAIRS, THERE IS A LONG RANGE VIEW TO HOW THE UPSTAIRS WILL FLOW WITH THAT AND WHERE OFFICES AND THINGS ARE.
SO, SO WE HAVE A GOOD, I MEAN WE HAD A FULL PLAN AT ONE TIME UNTIL WE DECIDED WE COULDN'T DO IT ALL.
SO I MEAN THAT PLAN IS STILL SORT OF IN PLAN.
THERE'S NOTHING WE'RE, THERE'S NOTHING WE'RE DOING HERE THAT PRECLUDES THAT, THAT OTHER PHASE FROM JUST COMING IN.
'CAUSE THERE WILL, THERE WILL BE THE SECOND FLOOR BATHROOMS DOWN THERE IN THE HALLWAY KIND OF AS YOU WALK INTO ENGINEERING.
THOSE ARE THE ELECTRICAL MECHANICAL SYSTEMS THERE ARE SOMEHOW INTEGRATED WITH SOMETHING ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
SO THOSE WILL ACTUALLY BE UPDATED, THOSE BATHROOMS BECAUSE IT'S, IT TIES INTO SOME OF THE WORK BELOW.
OTHERWISE NOTHING ELSE IS DONE.
BUT THE REST OF IT'S THERE TO BE DONE.
AND IF YOU'VE BEEN IN, IN CHRISTIAN AND JAY'S HALLWAY OR ENGINEERING IN THE LAST MONTH OR TWO, WE WENT AHEAD AND DID PUNCH THROUGH THE HOLE.
KRISTEN AND JAY AND THEM LIKE IT.
I'M NOT SURE HOW ENGINEERING LIKES IT, BUT UH, WE DIDN'T KNOW THEY CAN DO THAT.
SO
NOW THEY'RE LIKE, EH, MAYBE IT WAS BETTER TO FEEL ISOLATED.
I DO APPRECIATE GETTING DONE WITH THE FIRST PART 'CAUSE ANYTIME EVERY REMODEL OR BUILD OR ANYTHING I'VE DONE, YOU IMMEDIATELY ARE LIKE, WISH WE DID THAT DIFFERENTLY.
SO THAT'LL, THAT KNOWLEDGE WILL HELP FOR FUTURE.
SO AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE CONTRACTS, THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AND THE UPDATED DESIGN FEE CONTRACT ON YOUR APRIL 22ND AGENDA.
FURNITURE MAY BE A MEETING OR TWO LATER.
HEY KIRK, I NOTICED IN THE PICTURE THERE, THERE WAS A HUGE AMOUNT FOR REPLACING DOORS.
DID WE DECIDE JUST TO KEEP OUR DOORS, THERE WAS AN ALTERNATE TO REPLACE DOORS THAT WEREN'T OTHERWISE BEING KIND OF DESTROYED.
THAT CAME BACK LIKE AT 300 SOME THOUSAND.
WE JUST SAID WE WEREN'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA RECOMMEND THAT.
SO COMES A LOT FOR DOORS NOW THAT WE'LL HAVE OUR BLUE LIGHT INSTALLED OUTSIDE.
DO WE WANT TO REPURPOSE THE LITTLE CORNER A LITTLE BIT AND MAKE IT DIFFERENT? OR NOT PUSH THAT GLASS ALL THE WAY BACK? IS THERE A REASON TO GO BACK TO THE DESIGN TO SEE IF IT'S GOING TO SERVICE A DIFFERENT NEED NOW? UM, I STILL THINK THE THE NEED IS THERE.
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AND WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SECURE IT WITH, KEEP IT OPEN 24 7 BUT SECURE THE REST OF THE LOBBY BECAUSE AGAIN, SO YOU STILL WANT THAT TO PURPOSE THE WAY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FROM THE ORIGINAL EVENING AND THE WHY TO BE OUTSIDE? YEAH, BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COME IN DURING THE DAY WHO WANNA CALL AND TALK TO AN OFFICER.I DON'T WANNA SEND THEM OUTSIDE TO THAT BOX.
I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO THAT AREA AND JUST HAVE A PHONE CALL CONVERSATION WITH SOME.
YEAH, IT ACTUALLY WILL GIVE THEM AN AREA TO, IF SOMEBODY'S FLEEING A PURSUER, AN AREA TO, TO RETREAT TO WITH A THUMB LOCK BEHIND IT WHERE THEY CAN LOCK THEMSELVES IN NOW SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY BREAKS THROUGH THE GLASS OR WHATEVER THEY COULD, BUT IT MAY GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO ESCAPE OR INCLEMENT WEATHER AND THEY'RE WAITING, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST GET INSIDE SOMEWHERE.
CAN WE PUT THE MEDICINE DROP ON THE FLAG THING IN THAT AREA JUST TO, UH, WE ARE PLANNING TO PUT THE MEDICINE DROP.
I DON'T KNOW IF ALL THREE WILL FIT BUT THE MEDICINE, BECAUSE WE WANT, AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING, WE WANT THAT TO BE AVAILABLE 24 7 TOO.
THE MEDICINE DROP OFF THING TOO.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE FLAG FIT, BUT WE WERE PLANNING TO PUT THEM ACTUALLY I THINK MAYBE WE'RE PLANNING ALL THREE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
THIS IS KIND OF TIED INTO THE RACKET FACILITY.
OF COURSE WE'RE SHOWING IT SEPARATE SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN NO FINAL DECISIONS MADE.
UH, AND WE'RE NOT SHOWING ANY MONEY IN 25.
UM, BECAUSE IF WE MOVE FORWARD IN A WAY THAT THIS GETS INCORPORATED INTO THE RACKET FACILITY, THEN THIS ACCOUNT WILL GO AWAY AND IT'LL ALL JUST GET ADDED TO THE RACKET FACILITY.
UM, BUT WE'RE SHOWING SOME MONEY IN 26 IN CASE IT DOESN'T GET ADDED TO THE RACKET FACILITY.
THEN WE'LL HAVE A, A DECISION POINT A YEAR FROM NOW WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AS A SEPARATE STANDALONE PROJECT.
SO AS WE WORKED, WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE HOW TO SHOW THIS, BUT UNTIL THERE WAS A FINAL DECISION, WE FELT LIKE WE'D JUST KEEP IT SEPARATE, KNOWING THAT IT MIGHT GET ROLLED INTO THE OTHER PROJECT.
AND LAST YEAR IT WAS $5.4 MILLION.
TH THIS NUMBER IS, IS ASSUMING A NUMBER THAT GETS ROLLED INTO A, THE RACKET FACILITY PROJECT STANDALONE NUMBER WAS THE 5 MILLION.
SO, AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE WE, WE KIND OF PROGRESSED BACK FOR YEARS, BUT IT ALSO TIES INTO SERVICE CENTER HERE A MINUTE.
AS FAR AS WHAT WE DO WITH THE SERVICE CENTER LONG TERM IS WHETHER OR NOT PARKS IS THERE OR NOT.
SO, UH, POLICE HEADQUARTERS, WHAT YOU SEE MONEY THERE IS, IS RELATED TO OUR FIRING RANGE, UH, FIX.
UM, WE'RE SHOWING THAT AS IF WE'RE, AS WE DISCUSSED, UM, SESSION'S NOT HERE.
WE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WE HAVE A CLAIM, WE'RE SHOWING IT BEING CITY FUNDED.
OBVIOUSLY HOPE THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE COMPLETELY, BUT, UH, WE DO PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT WORK IN NEXT YEAR.
WILL IT BE COMPLETED THIS BUDGET, 25 BUDGET YEAR OR BEFORE? THE HOPE WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, BY JUNE OF 25, UM, THAT WE CAN GET IT DONE.
WE'RE GONNA GET AN RFQ OUT HERE SHORTLY FOR A, A MECHANICAL DESIGN FIRM.
I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE ANYTHING.
OH, WE DO HAVE ONE SMALL PROJECT ON PAGE 44.
WE HAVE JUST ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, THE 25,000 A YEAR FROM FACILITIES MAINTENANCE, BUT, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ASKED TO BEEF UP A SECTION OF THE, IS IT THE LOWER ON THE DRILL GROUND? YEAH.
WHERE WE DO OUR CAR FIRE EVOLUTIONS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
INSTEAD OF AS ASPHALT, WE A SECTION OF ASPHALT WITH CONCRETE.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT HEAT DOES TO ASPHALT? MM-HMM.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO DAMAGE THE AREA.
WE JUST HAD THAT REFILLED AND SEALED LAST YEAR.
WE WANNA MAINTAIN THAT FOR YEARS TO COME.
SO IT'S JUST A SECTION THAT'S 10, UH, THAT'S $10,000 YOU SEE THERE, UH, FROM CAPITAL PROJECT FUND.
PART OF THAT TRANSFER, I THINK BASICALLY CREATING A SPOT WHERE YOU'RE GONNA PUT A CAR THAT YOU ARE, RIGHT? YEAH, EXACTLY.
A LITTLE PAD AND THEN SERVICE CENTER.
SO I'LL LET YOU TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO SERVICE CENTER, ONE ITEM, UH, TO TALK ABOUT FOR THIS COMING YEAR IS IF YOU, IF YOU DRIVE BY THERE, YOU'LL SEE THE LANDSCAPING, THE SHRUBS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF IT.
UM, WE HAD COMPLETE DIEBACK AND SO WE TRIMMED THEM BACK TO SEE IF THEY WOULD COME BACK.
BUT THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING VERY, VERY ROUGH.
AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING THIS COMING YEAR TO REPLACE THE, THE SHRUBS THAT ARE ALONG THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, WE ALWAYS TRY TO PROGRAM MONEY FOR EXTRAORDINARY MAINTENANCE.
SO THERE'S $50,000 INCLUDED IN, IN THERE FOR THAT.
AND THEN THE FUNDING IN 2024 IS CARRIED FORWARD TO 2025 FOR DIESEL TANK REPLACEMENT.
THE LATEST ON THAT IS WE'VE USED SPATCO AS OUR VENDOR FOR ALL OF OUR FUEL FARM NEEDS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND FOR US, WE'VE KIND OF CONSIDERED THEM TO BE ONE OF THE ONLY PROVIDERS THAT WE CAN GET COME SERVICE A SMALL FUEL FARM LIKE WHAT WE HAVE.
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A, A CHAIN OF CONVENIENCE STORES.UM, BUT WE DID IDENTIFY ANOTHER ONE, IT'S AMERICAN PETROLEUM.
WE FOUND ANOTHER CITY THAT USES THEM AND WE'VE HAD THEM EVALUATING THE FUEL TANKS.
BACK IN OCTOBER, WE HAD A POLISHING DONE TO THE DIESEL TANKS, WHICH HAD NOT BEEN DONE IN SOME TIME.
POLISHING IS WHERE THEY STIR UP THE TANK.
THEY RUN DAY LONG PUMPS AND FILTERS TO BASICALLY FILTER ALL OF THE CONTENTS OF THE TANK AND GET ANY SED SEDIMENTS AND RUST AND WHATNOT OUT OF THE FLUID THAT'S IN THERE.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY TESTING SINCE THEN.
IT'S BEEN ABOUT SIX MONTHS OR SO.
SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE FUEL FILTER, CUT IT OPEN.
UM, THERE IS SOME SEDIMENT AND DEBRIS IN IT.
AND WHEN I SENT THAT OVER TO AMERICAN PETROLEUM, I SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF, YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION NOW THAT WE'VE DONE THIS? AND THEY SAID, WE'VE SEEN WORSE.
LET US COME OUT AND TAKE A SAMPLE OUTTA THE BOTTOM OF YOUR TANK, WHICH ACTUALLY THEY'RE DOING TODAY.
AND WE CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA.
WE'VE GOT THAT ISSUE, THE CONCERN OVER FUEL QUALITY, UM, AND THE AGE OF THE TANKS.
THERE'S ALSO A FILLING ISSUE THAT WE MENTIONED TO YOU LAST YEAR THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO FILL THE UNDERGROUND DIESEL TANKS.
WE THOUGHT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY'RE TIED TOGETHER, BUT IT LIKES TO OVERFLOW IF YOU FILL IT TOO FAST.
SO WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A DESIGN DEFICIENCY, BUT IN TALKING TO THE NEW COMPANY, THEY SAY, NO, THAT CAN BE A BALL FLOAT WHEN IT GETS GUNKED UP, IT CAN CAUSE THAT PROBLEM.
WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL AND SEE IF THERE'S A REPAIR THAT YOU CAN DO.
SO THEY'RE JUST KIND OF GIVING US ANOTHER SECOND SET OF EYES ON THIS SITUATION.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE AGE OF THOSE TANKS.
THE TANKS ARE LIKE 32 YEARS OLD, I BELIEVE.
UM, STARTED OUT AS ONE, UH, DIESEL TANK AND ONE UNLEADED TANK.
WHEN WE PUT IN THE BIG UNLEADED TANK, WE REPURPOSED THE SMALL UNLEADED TANK AND TIED 'EM TOGETHER.
SO NOW IT'S TWO DIESEL TANKS TIED TOGETHER.
MY INCLINATION IS WE PROBABLY WILL STILL NEED TO DO THIS.
AND SO THE FUNDING IS CARRIED FORWARD IN THE CIP FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
AND DEPENDING ON WHAT AMERICAN, UH, PETROLEUM TELLS US, I'VE ASKED THEM TO GO AHEAD AND GIMME A PROPOSAL FOR REPLACEMENT AND I CAN LOOK AT THEIR SPECS IN ADDITION TO THE SPECS THAT I WAS GIVEN BY SPAC CO.
AND WE'LL KIND OF PUT THE TWO TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE PUT OUT INTO THE STREET, ONTO THE STREET A COMPETITIVE BID.
AND WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
IF THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE BETTER OFF JUST GOING AHEAD AND REPLACING, I'LL HAVE AN ANSWER VERY SOON.
AND IF WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH IT, WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING IN FRONT OF YOU AT ONE OF YOUR COMMISSION MEETINGS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO THAT'S THE STATUS OF THE DIESEL TANKS.
UM, RECALL WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE BUDGET KICKOFF MEETING? YES SIR.
YOU SAW THE FUEL RELATED TANKS.
UH, ANOTHER MEASURE COULD BE ARE ARE WE SEEING ANY FUEL RELATED PROBLEMS WITH OUR EQUIPMENT FROM THE FUEL COMING OUT OF THOSE TANKS? WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT.
IT WAS, IT WAS THE, THE, THE FILTER AT THE PUMP IS WHAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT.
WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY EQUIPMENT PROBLEMS. YEAH.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE SO WE'RE NOT SEEING CON FUEL CONTAMINATION? NO, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE OKAY THERE.
IT'S NOT A, AN EXIGENT SITUATION.
UH, BUT RE RECALL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WE, WE HAD A REMODELING PLANNED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON THE INSIDE OF THE SERVICE CENTER.
AND IN TALKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT THAT REALLY WOULD NOT FIX WHAT THEIR CORE NEEDS ARE, WHICH IS SPACE RELATED.
AND SO WE'VE GOT FUNDING PUSHED OUT TO 2026 FOR SOME ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES TO DO SPACE PLANNING, DETERMINE WHAT THE NEEDS ARE THERE AND POTENTIALLY WHAT IT WOULD COST.
AND THEN THERE'S A PLACEHOLDER OF A MILLION DOLLARS SHOWN IN 2027.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SOLUTION WOULD BE.
DOES IT INCLUDE ATTEMPTING TO GO UP OR OUT WITH THAT BUILDING OR DO WE NEED ENOUGH OF THE, THE CAMPUS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STATION THREE GETS RELOCATED ELSEWHERE? AND WE KNOW THE OPTIONS ARE INCREDIBLY LIMITED FOR WHERE WOULD WORK WITHIN THAT ZONE, BUT I THINK FIRES KIND OF HAVE THEIR EYE ON ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT MIGHT WOULD WORK.
UH, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE A, A BIGGER LOOK AT THIS AND NOT THROW MONEY AT A, AT A PROBLEM THAT IT WON'T FIX.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWN IN 26 AND 27 SEEMS
THAT WOULD BE THE, THAT'S PLANNING AND DESIGN.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S NOT JUST A SPACE NEEDS STUDY FOR 500,000 THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ASSUME A STUDY, A DECISION AND THEN BEGINNING DESIGN WORK ON WHATEVER THAT DECISION.
IF THERE WAS A DECISION TO DO SOMETHING, WOULD A MILLION DOLLARS EVEN TOUCH IT? WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION WOULD BE.
UH, I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE SALT BARN, UH, WITH THIS WINTER WEATHER THAT WE'VE HAD AND WE'VE EMPTIED OUT TODD A THIRD OF THE SALT BARN.
WE WITH THROUGH THE WINTER WEATHER, CLOSE TO HALF.
CLOSE TO HALF OF THE SALT BARN.
AND WE DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE THAT MUCH OF A DRAW DOWN ON THE SALT.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO SEE MORE OF THE WALLS.
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BEEN WATCHING THE STEEL STRUCTURE OF THE ROOF AND IT'S, IT'S GOT A LOT OF SERVICE RUST, BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THAT MUCH OF A DRAW DOWN ON THE SALT TO GO AHEAD AND PULL THE REST OF THE SALT OUT, TREAT THOSE WALLS IN A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.UM, WHICH THERE'S KIND OF A SACRIFICIAL LAYER THAT'S ON, UH, A COATING THAT'S ON THE WALLS NEEDS TO BE REDONE.
AND SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING THE REST OF THE SALT OUT NOW AND IT'S ACTUALLY JUST GOING OUTSIDE OF THE SALT BARN WITH TARPS OVER IT.
AND THEN WE CAN GET IN, IT'S GONNA COST US ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT RECOAT THOSE WALLS, SANDBLAST THE STEEL GIRDERS, AND THEN, UH, TREAT AND REPAINT THE STEEL GIRDERS TO TRY AND, AND BREATHE LIFE BACK IN THAT FACILITY AND NOT ALLOW THE SALT TO JUST DETERIORATE IT TO, TO WHERE IT'S BEYOND THE POINT OF REPAIR.
SO, UH, JUST KIND OF SEIZING THE OPPORTUNITY FROM THE WINTER WEATHER.
I THINK GETS US THROUGH GENERAL FACILITIES OR A LITTLE LONGER THAN I THOUGHT, BUT THOSE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS IN THERE.
SO WE'RE MOVING TO TECHNOLOGY NOW.
LEMME TURN IT MAINLY TO SARAH JAY HERE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT IS PRIMARILY REPLACEMENT ITEMS. YOU SEE A LIST OF THAT ON PAGE 53 OF WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE.
UM, SIR, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING TOO.
YOU WANNA TALK REAL BRIEFLY? WHAT THAT THE 40,000, THAT'S A, A NEW, UM, IT'S CAPITAL PROJECT FUND MONEY 12 YEARS OLD.
WHAT WE'RE UPGRADING IS THE, UH, SOFTWARE SIDE OF THE YES MA'AM.
SO IT'S JUST A NECESSARY REQUIREMENT WHEN YOU HAVE THESE KIND OF PHONE SYSTEMS. IT'S 12 YEARS OLD AT THIS POINT AND IT'S DUE FOR AN UPGRADE.
PHONES ARE ESSENTIALLY COMPUTERS, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THAT'S AN UPGRADE TO THE OPERATING SYSTEM OR A PHONE SYSTEM THAT'S FUNDED NOT FROM EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, BUT FROM, UM, THE CAP, THE TRANSFER AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE REST OF THIS IS GENERALLY, UM, JUST ROUTINE REPLACEMENT OF ITEMS. ALL RIGHT.
UH, REALLY THIS UPGRADE IS, UM, STEMMING FROM, UH, THE PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE CALLED TTMS, TRITECH MESSAGING SYSTEM.
UM, IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SYSTEM THAT REGULATES PERMISSIONS FOR S DATA, CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEMS, DATA, NCIC DATA.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE NOT CI COMPLIANT BECAUSE WE HAVE A DIVI OR A APP CALLED MOBILE, UH, FIELD APPS.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU CAN SEE CS AND NCIC DATA, AND YOU GUYS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON ANY OF THIS, BUT PUTTING TTMS IN PLACE WILL THEN HIDE THAT DATA FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY AUTHORIZED TO SEE IT.
IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE, WE HAVE TO UPGRADE CAD.
AND SO THIS $40,000, UM, MINE ITEM IS EARMARKED FOR UPGRADING CAD.
I CAN GET INTO MORE DETAILS IF YOU LIKE, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT LINE ITEM IS.
AS YOU KNOW, WE DID A COUPLE PROJECTS.
SO ONE BIG PROJECT THIS YEAR, WHICH WAS GET FIBER UP TO THE ROBERT E. LEE AREA FOR THE WATER TANK AND THE RADIO SYSTEM.
WE ALSO EXTENDED IT TO GRANNY WEISS PARK INTO THE PARK ITSELF.
AND YOU ALL, JUST A MEETING OR TWO AGO APPROVED THE PROJECT TO DO ALL THE RE TERMINATION WORK IN THE OTHER CITY FACILITY.
AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS REALLY OVER THE YEARS EITHER EXTENSION OF THE NETWORK AND OR REPLACEMENT OF OLDER COMPONENTS.
SO A LOT OF WHAT IS IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IS JUST REPLACING SOME OF THE OLD FIBER THAT'S EITHER IN THE GROUND OR ON THE POLES THAT IS NOW OVER 20 YEARS OLD.
UM, SO THAT'S THE 200,000 YOU SEE THERE, WHY WE PUT IT IN GRANNY WHITE.
UM, ONE TO HAVE REALLY THE SECURITY SECURITY CAMERAS THAT ARE ON THE WHITE POLES THERE NOW THAT WE CAN CONNECT THAT TO THE NETWORK.
UM, THE, UM, WE STILL, THERE'S THE COUNTYWIDE SYSTEM'S BEEN IN LINE SINCE 2019 WORKING GREAT FOR US.
THERE'S STILL A ANOTHER TOWER OUT IN THE COUNTY THAT IS YET TO BE BUILT.
UM, AND UNTIL THE COUNTY COMPLETES THAT, THE CONTRACT ISN'T CLOSED AND OUR FINAL PAYMENT ISN'T PAID.
SO THERE'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT OF OUR SHARE OF THE FINAL CONTRACT PAYMENT THAT CONTINUES TO JUST KIND OF CARRY ON, CARRY OVER.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT TOWER'S
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NOT BUILT? IT'S BEEN A, IT'S A PROPERTY ACQUISITION CONDEMNATION ISSUE.THEY HAD A COUPLE DIFFERENT, THEY DON'T WANT TO CONDEMN.
THEY HAD A COUPLE SITES WHERE THEY WERE GONNA CO-LOCATE WITH AT LEAST ONE THAT I RECALL WITH A CELL TOWER.
BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER DIDN'T WANT THE ADDED INFRASTRUCTURE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THEY'VE FALLEN BACK TO A COUPLE DIFFERENT PLACES.
I THINK THEY'VE SETTLED ON A PROPERTY AND ALL THAT.
IT JUST HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET.
IT'S MORE IN THE GRASSLAND AREA.
IT WOULD BE SOME BENEFIT TO US.
I MEAN OUR SYSTEM IS WORKING FINE.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE JUST HOLDING THAT MONEY UNTIL THAT THAT PROJECT CLOSES OUT AND WE'RE SHOWING FOUR MOBILE RADIOS HERE.
BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY THE ONES WE'RE GETTING NOW, I THINK.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S FOUR NEW ONES IS THERE? NO, THERE IS.
RIGHT? THOSE WERE PORTABLES WE TALKED ABOUT THESE ARE MOBILE.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD ADD INDIVIDUAL RADIOS IN THE RADIO SYSTEM.
'CAUSE THEY ROLL INTO THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, UH, SOFTWARE SYSTEMS. UM, TWO BIG ONES NEXT YEAR THAT ARE, ARE KIND OF NEW.
THERE'S SEVERAL, AGAIN, I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 61, THE LIST THERE.
THOSE ARE KIND OF ONGOING ANNUAL, UH, SYSTEMS. WELL WE HAVE TWO NEW ONE IS, UM, LET'S START WITH POLICE RECORDS SYSTEM.
THAT'S AN UPGRADE OF THE, OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM.
RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPGRADING CORRECT.
UM, THAT KIND OF PLAYS A ROLE IN THE TTMS AND CAN UPGRADE.
SO WE HAVE TO GET ALL THOSE PARTS AND PIECES ALL UPGRADED IN ORDER FOR THEM TO ALL WORK TOGETHER.
SO, AND THEN WE'VE GOT $40,000 IN THERE FOR A PROPOSED, UH, UPDATE.
IT'S REALLY MORE UPDATE I GUESS, OR UPGRADE FOR THE WEBSITE.
UM, CITY WEBSITE IS NOW EIGHT YEARS OLD.
UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? A LITTLE BIT? YEAH.
SO OUR CITY WEBSITE'S EIGHT YEARS OLD.
IT IS EXTREMELY CHALLENGING ON THE BACKEND TO UPDATE IT.
UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING A REFRESH.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO GRANICUS ABOUT GETTING SOME NUMBERS FOR IT.
AND WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM INTERNALLY, UH, WITH PEOPLE REPRESENTING EVERY DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE PUT TOGETHER A NEEDS LIST FOR GRANICUS.
THEY'VE COME BACK WITH AN AMOUNT THAT FITS INTO OUR BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT UPGRADED.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT COME FROM THIS IS WE WILL HAVE A NEW POLICE SUBSITE.
IT'LL STILL BE OUR BRANDING, IT'LL BE OUR LOGO.
IT'LL FIT WITHIN OUR SITE, BUT IT'LL FUNCTION IN A WAY THAT THEY NEED IT TO FUNCTION.
UM, INDUSTRY STANDARDS SHOW THAT THEY NEED TO FUNCTION A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT A CITY WEBSITE DOES.
AND IT'S THE SAME WITH THE LIBRARY.
WE'LL HAVE A LIBRARY SUBSITE AS WELL THAT WILL FUNCTION A BIT DIFFERENTLY.
STILL THE SAME BRANDING, SAME LOGO, AND WE CAN EDIT ALL OF IT FROM THE SAME BACKEND.
SO IT'S NOT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITE.
THEY'RE WITHIN US, BUT THEY OPERATE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY SO THAT IT WORKS BETTER FOR THEM.
THE USER WON'T REALLY SEE A DIFFERENCE.
Y'ALL JUST SEE A DIFFERENCE ON THE BACKSIDE KIND OF, UH, A LITTLE BIT REVERSE ACTUALLY.
SO ON THE BACKEND, WE, IT'LL ALL BE THE SAME TO EDIT IT.
IT'LL BE VERY EASY FOR ALL OF US TO EDIT IT ON THE FRONT END.
IT'LL LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT IT'LL STILL BE A BRENTWOOD.
YOU'LL LOOK AT IT AND GO, THAT'S BRENTWOOD.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME FROM OUR MEETING WITH ALL OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS IS THAT HR WOULD LIKE A SITE THAT IS CONDUCIVE TO RECRUITING.
UH, ONE STOP SHOP FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S LOOKING FOR A JOB IN BRENTWOOD.
THEY CAN SEE BENEFITS, THEY CAN SEE JOBS THAT ARE POSTED.
SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT GETS BUILT OUT FROM THIS AS WELL.
SO, UM, THE OTHER DIFFERENCE TOO WITH A NEWER WEBSITE IS THAT IT'LL BE WHAT THEY CALL ONE SINGLE DOOR WEBSITE.
SO IF THEY NO LONGER HAVE TO GO, WHERE DO I GO TO GET A PERMIT? WHO DO I HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING? DO I HAVE TO GET TO CODES? THEY'LL BE RIGHT THERE.
I NEED A PERMIT AND IT TAKES THEM TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
SO IT'S WAY EASIER FOR A USER TO INTERACT WITH US.
SO QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, CONCERNS.
'CAUSE EVEN LIKE THE MAPS, THE GI IS MAPS.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HARD TO FIND.
SO YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT THAT.
AND THE NEW WEBSITE WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO INTEGRATE OUR THIRD PARTY APPLICATIONS THAT WE USE.
'CAUSE A LOT OF US HAVE THIRD PARTY STUFF.
UM, THE REC TRACK THAT WE JUST IMPLEMENTED, WE CAN PUT THAT INTO OUR WEBSITE A LITTLE MORE SEAMLESSLY SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITE.
SO THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE HERE THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, REMEMBER THE MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE LOOK AND THE DEER AND ALL THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA WORRY ABOUT THE TECHNICAL SIDE AND SOMEBODY'S GOTTA WORRY ABOUT THE, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE ON THE FRONT PAGE? THAT'S CHARLES
I'VE ALREADY DESIGNATED THAT PERSON.
CHARLES BEEN WORKING CHARLES, YES.
IS THIS GOING WORK? WE WHAT WE'VE DOING? YES MA'AM.
THAT'S NOT GOING ALL OUR WORK'S.
NOT GOING DOWN THE DRAIN THERE.
WELL IF IT DOES, IT'S HIS FAULT.
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OKAY.UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL WILL HAVE A LOT MORE INVOLVEMENT IN THAT AS IT GOES ALONG.
UM, LA LAST ITEM IN TECHNOLOGY, PAGE 62 IS, UH, WE WARNING SIRENS.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY EXTENSIVE SYSTEM.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A NEW ONE IN SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, BUT WITH THE AREA WE'VE ANNEXED OUT THERE ALONG SPLIT LOG SAM DONALD AREA, WE THINK THAT MIGHT BE A CANDIDATE AS SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS START BUILDING HOMES HERE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT PLACING A SIREN OUT IN THAT AREA.
SO WE HAVE FUNDING NEXT YEAR TO DO THAT.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON NOW TO, UH, WHAT'S TRANSPORTATION? THERE ARE SIREN.
THAT'S LIKE AT SCALES OR THERE? IS IT OUR CITY SIREN? THAT'S AT SCALES.
AND REMEMBER NOW THOSE ARE ALL KIND OF INTEGRATED.
SO IF FOR SOME REASON WE COULDN'T ACTIVATE 'EM, THE COUNTY COULD ACTIVATE OURS AND, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND DO YOU REMEMBER SOMETIME IN THE LAST YEAR YOU APPROVED A, A CHANGE TO THE WHATEVER THE ACTIVATION POLYGON, POLYGON SYSTEM THAT DOES THAT? I MEAN, MORE LOCALIZED.
SO WE DON'T ACTIVATE EVERY SIREN FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY FAR WEST BRENTWOOD AS FAR AS WHERE THE WARNING IS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WE'LL TRY TO MOVE FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT SEVERAL BIG ONES.
UM, I'LL GIVE SOME OVERVIEW REVIEW AND THEN DEREK AND SARAH CATHERINE WILL JUMP IN ON SOME MORE DETAILS.
UH, PAGE 68 IS OUR A DA RETROFIT PROJECT.
SOME OF THIS IS, WE'VE GOT A LONG LIST OF CURB RAMPS ALL OVER TOWN, UM, THAT NEED REPLACING UP TO THE NEW A DA STANDARDS TIED ADDRESSES THOSE EITHER AS HE'S REPAVING AREAS.
AND NOW WE'RE, WE, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE SIDEWALKS IN THERE, OUR REPAVING PROJECT.
SO WE'LL BE UPGRADING THOSE AS PART OF THE REPAVING ONES.
OTHER ARE AREAS IF WE'RE NOT REPAVING, BUT THEY'RE A SIGNIFICANT PEDESTRIAN AREA.
AND THEN WE'LL, WE'RE STARTED UPGRADING THOSE.
YOU PROBABLY GOT MOST OF THOSE PRIORITY AREA ONES, HAVEN'T WE? OH YEAH.
I WOULD SAY LIKE AROUND HERE, YOU KNOW, THE PRIORITY.
UH, WESTGATE CIRCLE'S POPULAR WALKING PATH AT LUNCHTIME.
THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE VERY NARROW.
BUT, UH, THE, THE RAMPS HAVE ALL BEEN COMPLETE.
SO, SO THAT'S ONE PART OF THE A DA REP.
AND THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE ANY BUILDING ISSUES OR ISSUES AND PARKS WE HAVE FOR A DA RETROFITS.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THAT WORK.
THERE MAY STILL BE A LITTLE BIT LEFT, BUT THAT WOULD BE THIS FUNDING.
THE OTHER PART OF THIS, UH, AND AND THE MORE SIGNIFICANT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS IS, UM, THE CM A GRANT RELATED STUFF THAT ENGINEERING IS OVERSEEING.
AND IN HERE YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY REPLACEMENT OF PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGNALS, RIGHT? YES.
AND, AND SOME UPGRADES TO THOSE AS WELL AS RAMPS.
I THINK YOU'VE DISCUSSED THAT.
SO IT'LL BE THE, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT THE COUNTDOWN ONES.
THIS WILL BE AUDIBLE, RIGHT? IF I RECALL CORRECTLY? YES.
IT'S 44 INTERSECTIONS TOTAL UPGRADING.
EACH INTERSECTION IS DIFFERENT.
SO THIS, THE MONEY IN HERE FOR CMAC IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF RAMPS AND SIGNAL HEADS, SIGNAL TIMING.
ONE IS GONNA BE IN THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROJECT, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S COVERED AT 100%.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, 480,000 OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE.
UM, AND THEN OUR 20% MATCHES IN THERE.
AND REGARDING A SCHEDULE FOR THAT, KIRKS DURING THE WINTER HERE, WE COMPLETED UTILITY, UH, UH, RIGHT OF WAY.
WE'RE IN UTILITY COORDINATION.
WE'RE PROJECTING TO GO INTO BID CONSTRUCTION BID PHASE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
OBVIOUSLY SOME DISCUSSIONS WE'VE ALREADY HAD AND DECISIONS MADE THAT HAVE SCALED THIS BACK, UM, BY TAKING OUT THE FRANKLIN ROAD BETWEEN CONCOR AND MURRAY.
SO, UH, WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW IS WE'VE GOT ABOUT 500 AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS.
UM, 525,000 OR SO THAT'S, UH, BEEN ACCUMULATED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, UH, FOR PROJECTS.
SO WE HAVE THAT STILL AVAILABLE TO SPEND.
SO THE TWO WE HAD IN HERE IS STILL TO DO SOMETHING AT THIS INTERSECTION CROSSING HERE AT WESTGATE OR WEST PARK AND CADILLAC.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE CUT OUT THAT.
UM, WE ALREADY HAD THE PLANS TO KIND OF DO THIS AND THEN YOU'VE ASKED US TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE, WHICH WE'LL WE'LL DO, BUT WE STILL WANNA GIVE, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CROSSING.
NOW I'M PUTTING SARAH CATHERINE ON THE SPOT HERE, BUT
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IF YOU REMEMBER WE HAD AN AGENDA ITEM OF A FEW, UH, WEEKS AGO ABOUT GETTING RIGHT AWAY FOR THAT.AND WE PULLED THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANNA DO THIS.
BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE MAY ACTUALLY STILL NEED RIGHT AWAY ON THIS CORNER.
A TINY PIECE ON THAT CORNER JUST TO MAKE THIS CONNECTION HERE.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO BRING THAT ITEM BACK TO YOU IN A VERY LIMITED SCOPE FOR A LITTLE BIT OF RIGHT AWAY TO MAKE THIS PART OF IT WORK.
IT'S LIKE 20, YOU KNOW, 20 SQUARE FEET.
DO YOU MIND SHOWING US EXACTLY WHERE THE CROSSWALKS WOULD GO OR WHERE YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA GO? WELL, IT WOULD COME HERE.
ACROSS FROM THE SIDEWALK THAT WAS JUST BUILT FROM COMING OUT OF, UH, HARPETH ON THE GREEN HERE AND THEN ACROSS TO THERE TO GET TO THAT SIDEWALK.
AND THEN LONGER TERM YOU ASKED US TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE, BUT SHORT TERM WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THAT DONE.
I SAT OUT THERE A FEW WEEKS AGO AND, AND, AND SAW PEOPLE CROSSING IN EVERY SINGLE PERSON CROSSED ON THE NORTH SIDE.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO WAS OUT, I THINK THERE WAS LIKE EIGHT PEOPLE OR EIGHT, NINE PEOPLE TALKING TO LUNCH.
SO, WHICH IS THE MORE DANGEROUS SIDE IN OUR OPINION.
FOR THEM, THEY FELT IT SAFER, I GUESS GO TO THE MEDIAN AND STOP AND THEN GO OVER.
BUT, BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE SIGHT LINES AND EVERYTHING.
SO IS, IS THAT TOO CLOSE TO THE LIGHT AT OLD HICKORY TO CONSIDER DOING SOME SORT OF LIGHT THERE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN PEOPLE GO ACROSS IT, THEY KIND OF KNOW THEY'RE A FULL SIGNALIZATION.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE KIND OF TAKING THEIR LIVES AT RISK.
BUT WHEN YOU PUT A CROSSWALK THERE AND THERE'S THE ASSUMPTION, THEY MAY HAVE THE ASSUMPTION WHEN THEY WALK THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA STOP AND IT, THEY JUST FLY AROUND THE, YOU KNOW, THAT CORNER.
AND I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE NOT SEEING TIME TO STOP.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING WITH THE SLOPE THAT IT'S BETTER TO BE ON THE SOUTH, WHAT I'M CALLING THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT INTERSECTION.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S NOT AS MUCH TIME.
I JUST, I'M WONDERING IF WE DID ENOUGH TO CONSIDER SIGNALIZATION THERE TO FORCE PEOPLE TO STOP.
'CAUSE I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE TURNING OUT EITHER DIRECTION WHEN THEY'VE BEEN TO STARBUCKS OR PUBLIX OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, WE DID NOT LOOK AT A SIGNAL.
SO, YEAH, I, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT BRIEFLY.
AND THIS IS ALL JUST CONJECTURE, BUT IT IS CLOSE WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC MM-HMM
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY KIND OF STUDY ON THAT AS HOWEVER IT WOULD HELP WITH PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THERE.
BUT THEN AGAIN, THE MORE PEOPLE THAT PRESS THAT BUTTON, THE MORE IT AFFECTS THAT AM TRAFFIC AND THE PM AS WELL.
AND AS YOU'RE POINTING OUT, I MEAN WE JUST NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL IN THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE IT'S COMPLICATED FOR LOTS OF REASONS.
YOU KNOW, FROM THE ANGLE OF THE ROAD, RIGHT SIDE DISTANCE.
IT'S NOT FLAT ON ANY OF THOSE ROADS.
I MEAN IT COMES DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY FROM HICKORY TO THE INTERSECTION AND IT GOES DOWN.
YOU KNOW, ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION WE'RE POINTING AT THEN TO THE RIGHT ON THIS TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE OTHER CROSSWALK, IT ALSO DROPS A FAIR AMOUNT RIGHT THROUGH THERE.
SO THEN THERE'S ALL KINDS OF LINES OF SIGHT AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO I MEAN, BEFORE WE START DESIGNING THE TRAFFIC SOLUTION IN A COMMISSION MEETING, I'D REALLY LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE, THE PROFESSIONALS INVOLVED AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM AN OVERALL SAFETY COST EFFECTIVENESS AND GOOD TRAFFIC FLOW.
'CAUSE ALSO, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING WE GET A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION COMING IN AND OUT OF MARYLAND FARMS. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR WAYS THAT IN THE MORNING AND THE EVENING PEOPLE COME IN AND OUT OF MARYLAND FARMS. UH, SO WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE GOTTA BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE DO IT AND OUR PROCESS FOR DESIGNING THE SOLUTION HERE.
AND A SIGNAL THERE, I'M JUST GUESSING THAT'S 500, 750,000 WITH THE PE WITH ALL THE PEDESTRIAN UPGRADES THAT'LL GO ALONG WITH IT.
AND THE WIDTH OF THAT INCIDENT.
UM, THEN THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IN HERE, UM, WOULD BE THE OLD SMYRNA ONE.
OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS ALL PUT TOGETHER BEFORE WE HAD OUR MEETING AND UM, AT THE RESIDENCE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO, AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE A LONG CONVERSATION TODAY, BUT YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO EVEN FURTHER PURSUE THE OLD SMYRNA ONE KNOWING THAT THERE IS SOME OPPOSITION, UM, FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE, WHICH IS WHERE WE WOULD THINK IT NEEDS TO GO.
UM, BUT THERE'S MONEY IN HERE IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
IF NOT, THAT'S MONEY THAT WE WILL ROLL TO SOME OTHER PROJECTS IF, IF IDENTIFIED IN THE FUTURE.
SO CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT, UM, ABOUT THIS PARAGRAPH THAT HAS THE PROJECT JUSTIFICATION IN THERE? UM, SEVERAL SENTENCES.
I THINK IT'S THE LAST SENTENCE.
IT SAYS, THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO HAVE A CITYWIDE BIKEWAY SYSTEM.
AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT INCORRECT TO SET THAT EXPECTATION BECAUSE WE KNOW ON THE WEST SIDE WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO HAVE SIDEWALKS OR I JUST DON'T THINK THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD EVER PAY TO PUT TO RETROFIT SIDEWALKS ON THE WEST SIDE.
AND I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO SET
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UP FOR SOMEONE ON THE WEST SIDE TO THINK, OH WELL ONE DAY WE'LL HAVE SIDEWALKS OVER HERE.UM, IF THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEM.
SO I JUST THINK IT SETS, UM, THE WRONG EXPECTATION.
SO MAYBE GOING FORWARD IN THAT PARAGRAPH WE COULD JUST PULL OUT CITYWIDE OR UM, MAYBE THE SENATE MOST OF THE SENTENCE TOO.
I MEAN I THINK THAT'S A GOAL THAT COMES FROM OUR 2030 PLAN, BUT IF WE WANNA TAKE IT OUT, THAT'S FINE.
YOU DON'T RIDE BIKES ON THE SIDEWALK ANYWAY IF YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
RIGHT? I MEAN THIS IS REFERRING TO TRAILS AND THE SIDEWALK BIKE LANES.
THAT'S MORE LIKE PAINTING LINES OR TRYING TO MAKE CONNECTIONS.
UM, MOVING ON TO BRIDGES PAGE 72.
THIS IS A PROJECT WE INTRODUCED TO YOU LAST YEAR.
IT WAS NOT FUNDED IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
IT PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED THIS YEAR.
WE BUMPED UP THE NUMBERS JUST A LITTLE BIT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S A YEAR LATER.
AND SO JUST TO BE CONSERVATIVE IN OUR ESTIMATES.
BUT THESE ARE A COUPLE BRIDGES THAT TODD HAD IDENTIFIED.
ONE AT CROCKETT ROAD OVER THE RAILROAD.
TO BE CLEAR, TDOT IDENTIFIED
I MEAN TDOT DOES ANNUAL OR YES.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, I THINK LAST YEAR'S NUMBER WAS MAYBE TWO 50 OR SOMETHING.
WE JUST BUMPED IT UP JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY.
DO YOU THINK TDOT WILL COME AND DO ANY MORE BRIDGE INSPECTIONS OVER THERE? THEY DO.
UH, THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO DO EACH BRIDGE EVERY THREE YEARS, BUT WE'VE UM, JUST RECENTLY KIND OF GONE THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE WORKING OFF THE SAME LIST AS WHAT WE'VE HAD AND THERE WERE SEVERAL THEY WERE MISSING.
UM, SO I THINK THEY'RE NOW GONNA TRY AND IMPLEMENT THOSE INTO THEIR SCHEDULE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT ALL THE BRIDGES WILL BE SURVEYED AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WITH SOME BRIDGES NOT HAVING BEEN SURVEYED OF LATE, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING IDENTIFIED THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY AWARE OF.
SHOULD WE PUT ANYTHING IN FOR 26, 27, 20 80 AND 29? I WOULD PROBABLY WAIT UNTIL WE SEE THOSE SURVEY RESULTS.
JUST WAIT TO BE RESPONSIVE VERSUS PROACTIVE.
THE ONLY THING THERE IS WE'VE STILL GOT A COUPLE OF CONDEMNATION, UM, SUITS THAT ARE PENDING.
SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE MONEY THERE FOR, UM, SETTLEMENT OF THOSE, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY GET REIMBURSED BY TEAP HITTING THE WINDOW ITEMS. ONE IS THE, UM, BRENTWOOD RENTAL.
AND REALLY THE ISSUE THERE IS THEIR SIGN, WE TOOK DOWN THEIR SIGN, WHICH WAS A GRANDFATHERED SIGN.
I MEAN IT WASN'T COMPLIANT AT THE TIME, BUT WHEN WE TOOK IT DOWN, WE HAVE TO ALLOW THEM TO PUT UP SOMETHING SIMILAR EVEN THOUGH IT'S NON-COMPLIANT.
SO WE JUST RECENTLY REVIEWED A SIGNED PROPOSAL FROM THEM AND WE'VE RESPONDED BACK THAT IT'S OKAY WITH A COUPLE MINOR THINGS.
SO WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR FROM THEM AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT ONE SETTLED.
THEY JUST GAVE US THE RESUBMITTAL THAT IT DOES WHAT WE WANT IT TO DO.
SO I THINK KRISTEN IS WORKING WITH THEM TO OH, OKAY.
ON THE SETTLE THEY NEED TO LET OUR ATTORNEYS IN.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE ANY DOLLARS AMOUNT.
THEY JUST WANTED THEIR SIGNED AND THEN WE'VE GOT AT AND T WHICH THAT IF WE EVER CLOSE ANYTHING OUT WITH AT TI DON'T KNOW.
SO HOPEFULLY WE MAY NOT EVEN SPEND ANY MONEY ON THAT, BUT WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT RESERVED THERE.
UH, JOHNSON CHAPEL ROAD, WE TALKED ABOUT PAGE 76.
MOST OF THAT'LL GET DONE THIS YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL SPEND THE FULL HUNDRED, BUT IF WE GET DONE WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET DONE AND THEN DECIDE WE NEED MORE, THERE'S SOME, SHOULD BE SOME MONEY THERE TO DO MORE THEN DROP DOWN FROM THE LIKE 2 38.
'CAUSE YOUR CREW'S DOING A BUNCH OF THE WORK OR IT WAS A HUNDRED LAST YEAR.
I THINK THE ENGINEERS, ENGINEERS HAD A A PRETTY INFLATED NUMBER IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
THAT I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GETTING THAT.
BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE WE COULD GET A LOT MORE DONE WITH OUR EITHER STAFF OR EXISTING CONTRACTS.
UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A, UM, PROJECT WITH FRANKLIN.
FRANKLIN IS THE LEAD ON THAT EXCEPT FOR, UM, THE PART THAT COMES THROUGH TERRA MOORE.
THE, UH, GAS LINE WORK IS COMPLETE, IT'S COMPLETE AND PENDING SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION WITH THE ADDITIONAL $500,000 THAT THE GAS COMPANY SPENT ABOVE THE APPROVED AMOUNT.
WE'RE TRYING TO RECOUP THAT AMOUNT THERE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH FRANKLIN AS TO HOW THAT HAPPENED AND WHY, AND WHEN FRANK, IF, IF AND WHEN FRANKLIN APPROVES THAT AMOUNT, WE WILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR 300,000 OF THAT.
I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THAT.
HOW HOW WOULD WE BE ON THE HOOK FOR THAT IF IT WENT ABOVE WHAT WAS AGREED TO? SO IN THERE, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WELL, I'M JUST SAYING THE, THE AGREEMENT WITH FRANKLIN HAD A PRICE NUMBER, BUT IT HAS HAD A CAVEAT FOR EXTRA ROCK WORK OR WHATEVER THAT OKAY.
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SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY JUST DID WORK THAT WASN'T AGREED TO CONTRACTUALLY NO.IT, I MEAN THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT A JUSTIFICATION FOR IT.
FRANKLIN AND I EXACTLY REVIEWING THAT.
IF YOU RECALL THIS, THIS IS, UH, REFURBISHMENT WORK THAT, UH, WOUND UP BEING TO THIS 0.1 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED THAT WE WOULD BE SPENDING BETWEEN FIVE AND $10 MILLION FOR THE, FOR, UH, REPLACEMENT OF THOSE EXISTING GAS LINES FOR THIS ROADWAY PROJECT.
THE GAS COMPANY AGREED THAT THEY WOULD EXCAVATE, INSPECT, AND RECOAT REFURBISH THOSE LINES.
THAT'S WHY IT WENT DOWN TO ONE AND A HALF MILLION DURING THE PROCESS.
THEY HAD A LOT MORE ROCK EXCAVATION THAN WAS ANTICIPATED.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO RECOUP THAT ADDITIONAL 500,000 THAT THEY SPENT DOING THAT.
WHAT'S THE GOAL DATE FOR THIS TO BE DONE? WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, FRANKLIN HAS THEIR BIGGER PROJECT FROM COOL SPRINGS TO WILSON PIKE.
HAVE THEY NAMED THE DATE ON THAT? THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE ON THAT ONE.
LIKE WHAT WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? CLOSE.
WITHIN LIKE THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.
WE'VE HEARD JANUARY, BUT, UM, YEAH, WE'VE HEARD THAT LAST YEAR TOO.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE'VE LAID OUT HERE AND HAVE TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT IS, OKAY, 'CAUSE I MEAN, DOING OURS JUST GETS YOU TO A POINT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIRS.
THEIRS IS A MUCH LONGER PROJECT.
SO THE THOUGHT WAS IS IF THEY GET THEIRS GOING AND WE TRY TO GET OURS GOING, WE'RE SHOWING HERE IN FISCAL 26.
SO THAT MAYBE THEY CAN ALL END AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, BUT THAT'S ROAD PROJECT PLANNING AND, AND THAT'S, I MEAN IS THAT ACCURATE? YEAH, THAT'S ACCURATE.
UM, WE, WE, FOR OUR SECTION OF THE PROJECT, WE UM, ARE ESSENTIALLY PENDING THE, UH, COMPLETION AND, UH, RESOLUTION OF THIS GAS WORK.
WE WOULD BE, PLANS ARE TO THE POINT WHERE WE COULD BEGIN PURCHASING RIGHT AWAY.
UH, FRANKLIN'S GONNA BE GETTING MOST OF THAT.
WE HAVE SOME WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS, UH, FROM HOAS AND A COUPLE OF OWNERS THERE AS I RECALL.
BUT YEAH, THEN WE WOULD BE READY FOR AFTER WE GET THE RIGHT OF WAY PURCHASED, OF COURSE WE'D BE READY TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION WHENEVER THAT'S COMES ACROSS THIS WORK.
I MEAN, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO GO ON AND START RIGHT AWAY? PURCHASING LIKE LAND IS JUST GOING UP? I MEAN, IF WE KNOW WE GOTTA DO THIS COST OF YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FINALIZING THE PLANS YET.
I MEAN, WE'RE SHOWING MONEY NEXT YEAR FOR RIGHT OF AWAY ACQUISITION FOR A MILLION.
I DON'T KNOW THAT OUR SHARES ANYWHERE NEAR THAT AMOUNT, BUT WHO KNOWS? AND THEN WE'RE SHOWING ABOUT 12 MILLION IS OUR SHARE OF CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S BASED UPON FRANKLIN'S CIP ESTIMATE OF THE WHOLE PROJECT.
AND WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY 60% OF IT.
UM, MURRAY LANE MEDIAN, THIS WAS OUR INSERT PAGE.
WE, WE GAVE YOU, UM, THE NUMBERS WERE IN THE BUDGET, BUT THE DISPUTE, SO THIS IS ONE WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF TRYING TO DEFINE A PROJECT HERE THAT, UH, CLEANS UP THE LOOK OF THE MEETING AND CORRECT ME IF I'M MEDIAN.
AND THEN ASSESSES WHAT EXTENT OF A, OF A ROCK WEBU REBUILD WE CAN DO.
UM, TODD'S FOLKS CAN DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF PROBABLY THE UNDERGROWTH CLEANUP TO THE EXTENT WE DEFINE WHAT IT IS WE WANNA DO.
WE'RE BUILDING THE ROCK WALL, OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
UH, AND UNTIL WE GET A DEFINITION OF THAT LENGTH OF IT, AN ASSESSMENT OF THE ROCKS THAT ARE THERE AND THERE'S CONDITION OF THOSE AND HOW MUCH THEY CAN BE REUSED AND ALL THAT, UH, WE CAN'T REALLY DEFINE WHAT THAT IS.
UM, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DEFINE, AND WHEN I SAY WE, I REALLY MEAN YOU, UM, IS THE CLEANUP OF THAT.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE VISION FOR THAT? IS THAT YOU CAN SEE ALL THIS KIND OF UNDERGROWTH HERE.
IS THAT CLEARING ALL THAT OUT AND KIND OF JUST LEAVING MORE MATURE TREES AND OPENING IT UP? OR IS IT, OR WHAT IS IT? AND, AND WE, WE HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WANNA MEET MAYBE WITH MCG AND PRINCETON HILLS, HOAS AND KIND OF JUST GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM.
I MEAN, TO SOME EXTENT THEY MAY LIKE IT TO BE THE WAY IT IS IN TERMS OF NOISE AND VISIBILITY AND ALL THAT, IN WHICH CASE THAT MAY LIMIT WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF CLEANUP.
UM, BUT TO REBUILD THE ROCK WALL IN ANY, YOU KNOW, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO CLEAN UP A LITTLE BIT OF THAT SOUTH SIDE OF IT, I THINK IS WHERE THE WALL GENERALLY RUNS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT STANDS.
WE, WE'VE GOT IT IN HERE, WE'VE GOT SOME MONEY, UM, WE WANT TO TALK WITH THE HOAS AND, AND THEN KIND OF COME BACK TO YOU AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT A VISION FOR WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.
AND I DON'T, AND MAYBE ANN OR, OR RAY OR NELSON WHO WERE HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE WHEN IT WAS FIRST DONE
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IN TERMS OF THE UNDERGROWTH AND WHETHER IT WAS REALLY MORE OF AN OPEN MEETING WITH MATURE TREES OR WHETHER IT ALWAYS HAD KIND OF THAT UNDERGROWTH, THIS HAD THE UNDERGROWTH AS IT, IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GONE ACROSS A ROCK WALL TO SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY WHERE IT JUST GROWN UP NEXT TOCIRCLE AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
LIKE THEY DIDN'T LIKE CLEAR CUT IT AND THEN, THEN IT'S JUST GROWN BACK.
IT, IT JUST KIND OF ALWAYS, OKAY.
SO AGAIN, I THINK MORE DISCUSSION GOING FROM THERE, BUT WE GOT SOMETHING IN THERE TO, TO KIND OF KEEP WORKING TOWARDS.
TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE THAT ROCK WALL, ALL OF IT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO, IT DOESN'T HAVE ALL BE INTACT THE WHOLE WAY DOWN, BUT JUST SAID THAT IT DOESN'T KEEP BEING, IT THE ROCKS DON'T KEEP DISAPPEARING AND IT'S A HALLMARK OF MIDDLE TENNESSEE TO HAVE ROCK WALLS.
WE HAVE IT THERE, JUST CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE MORE SPIFFY.
BUT TO DO SOME OF THAT WE GOTTA DO AT LEAST SOME RIGHT TREE WORK AND PUSH.
SO WHAT'S EXTENT OF THAT? I WOULD LIKE WHEN YOU PULL OUT OF MCGAVICK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN MCGAVICK, YOU PULL IT OUT AND YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN TOWARDS FRANKLIN ROAD CROSSING OVER AND TURN YEAH.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU HAVE TO GET REALLY UP IN THERE, YOU KNOW, INTO THE MEDIA TO SEE ONCOMING CARS IF WE CLEAN SOME OF THAT BACK, THE SCRUB WHERE YOU CAN AT LEAST HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ADVANCED WARNING.
SITELINE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EVERYTHING, BUT VISUALLY IT MIGHT FROM SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, HELP TO CLEAN OUT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT CLOSE TO EACH CUT THROUGH.
AND THEN ROUNDABOUT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SPEND MUCH TIME THERE.
YOU KNOW, THAT CONTRACT ON THE WAY CREWS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE DOING SOME PRELIMINARY STUFF THIS WEEK, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, SO WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE FOR THAT.
UM, ON SRNA ROAD, UH, PAGE, PAGE PAGE 82.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT THE, UH, PRELIMINARY STUDY DONE BY SULLIVAN.
WE'VE HAD THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING IN HERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PHASE ONE, WHICH WOULD BE THE WESTERN HALF OF IT FROM JUST KIND OF BRAKE AREA HERE BACK TO UH, ANNANDALE JONES PARKWAY WITH THE PROPOSED NEW ROAD TWO LANE ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE EXISTING ROAD BEING CONVERTED INTO A TRAIL LINEAR PARK.
UM, AND THAT NUMBER TODAY IS ROUGHLY $10 MILLION.
UH, WE WOULD START NEXT YEAR WITH FINAL ENGINEERING AND ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING WORK.
AND THEN THE 26 WITH UH, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, A COUPLE TRACKS, UH, AND THEN START CONSTRUCTION AND SOMETIME THE SPRING OF 26 AND, AND I'M PROJECTING TO BE DONE BY MIDDLE OF 27.
SO WINDY HILL SHOULD BE DONE BY FISCAL YEAR 25.
WINDY HILL SHOULD BE DONE ROUGHLY A YEAR FROM NOW, A LITTLE LATER.
UM, I WAS OUT ON OLD SMYRNA THIS WEEK AND SPENT SOME TIME WITH SOME RESIDENTS OUT THERE.
NOT JANET, BUT OTHER RESIDENTS.
AND, UM, MY, THEY, THE RESIDENTS THERE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING.
UM, BOTH OF THOSE RESIDENTS ATTENDED THE MEETING IN DECEMBER AT THE LIBRARY.
I WAS ACTUALLY ATTENDED THAT MEETING TOO.
AND THEY WERE UNDER THE MISUNDERSTANDING OF A DIFFERENT PLAN.
AND SO I HAD TO CORRECT THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTOOD.
AND, UM, THE BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW FOR SAFETY IS THE CUT THROUGH, WHICH WOULD EXTEND, IT'S HARD TO SAY WITHOUT DO THIS WITHOUT DRAWINGS, BUT THE CUT THROUGH WHERE IF I'M DRIVING OUT OF A DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OLD SMYRNA, THERE'S NOW OLD SMYRNA ROAD AND THEN THERE WOULD NEED TO BE AN ADJACENT EXTENDED DRIVEWAY TO GET TO THE NEW ROAD THAT'S PROPOSED.
SO YOU HAVE TO BREAK THROUGH THE WALLS SO THE WALLS WOULD HAVE BRAKES.
I THINK THERE ARE 11 OF THEM, BUT THAT LENGTH RIGHT THERE IS ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THE LENGTH OF MY CAR.
AND MY CAR SAT IN A DRIVEWAY AND YESTERDAY THE OTHER DAY, AND I LOOKED AT IT ALL, BUT, UM, I HAVE A LONG CAR.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE COMING OFF OLD SMYRNA ROAD AND YOU PULL INTO THAT LITTLE EXTENDED DRIVEWAY SECTION, IT'S NOT MUCH LONGER THAN MY VEHICLE.
AND SO IF YOU'RE COMING OFF OF THE 25, 35, WHATEVER, WE JUST DECIDE TO DO HOWEVER FAST IT RUNS, BECAUSE IT'LL BE LONG AND STRAIGHT, UM, THEN YOU HAVE TO BA BASICALLY STOP IN THAT SECTION SO THAT YOU LOOK ACROSS THE LINEAR PARK TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO PEDESTRIANS COMING THROUGH.
SO IT, YOU CAN, YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE TO STOP ON OLD SMYRNA TO PULL INTO YOUR PARKING SPOT TO WAIT TO MAKE SURE THE LINEAR PARK IS CLEAR THAT YOU'RE NOT RUNNING OVER SOMEONE PUSHING A STROLLER OR RUNNING AND THEN YOU CAN ADVANCE INTO YOUR DRIVEWAY HOME.
THE REVERSE COMMUTE IS NOT DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING FROM HOME AND YOU DON'T HAVE AS MANY THINGS TO DEAL WITH.
BUT, AND SO IN TALKING WITH THAT, WITH RESIDENTS,
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JUST THE SAFETY ASPECT AND MY CONCERN IS THAT WE SPEND 10 MILLION TO 20 MILLION IF WE DO PHASE TWO AND WE CREATE MORE PROBLEMS THAN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH SAFETY, WITH PEDESTRIANS AND ON ACTUALLY ON OLD SMARTER ROAD, NOT MENTIONING HOW FAST PEOPLE WILL GO WHEN IT'S A NICE NEW ROAD.SO I JUST FEEL LIKE WE NEED MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
AND WE NEED TO HAVE MORE INPUT FROM CITIZENS WHO LIVE IN THE AREA, UM, AND PEOPLE WHO DRIVE IT EVERY DAY AND WHO LIVE UP ON IT.
UM, AND, AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE DOING SO THAT THEY CAN THEN PROVIDE THEIR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, PART OF WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED, I, I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER UNTIL WE WOULD ACTUALLY DESIGN THE ROAD AS FAR AS WHAT THAT WIDTH.
'CAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASSUMING A CERTAIN LENGTH OF THAT.
WELL, I JUST LOOKED AT THE DRAWINGS FROM THE MEETING IN DECEMBER AND MEASURED, ASSUMING THEY'RE TO SCALE, WHICH I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE CLOSE ENOUGH.
AND SO, UM, I JUST MEASURED WHAT I SAW AND RIGHT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING UNTIL YOU FULLY DESIGNED, IT'S REALLY, I MEAN I CAN'T, THERE COULD NOT BE ANSWER FULLY THAT QUESTION AS TO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE UNTIL WE GET FARTHER INTO THAT'S THE KIND OF THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG.
I JUST WANNA CREATE MORE PROBLEMS THAN WE ALREADY HAVE.
BUT THE PROBLEM YOU ALREADY HAVE RIGHT NOW IS A DETERIORATING ROAD THAT CAN'T BE LEFT JUST AS IS WITH BEING VERY NARROW WITH THE, THE EDGES DETERIORATING AND FALLING INTO THE MEDIAN WITH THE SAFETY CONCERNS.
SO I MEAN, GIVEN THE, I MEAN I GUESS THE THREE BIG OPTIONS WOULD BE EITHER TO DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND LEAVE THE ROAD DETERIORATING LIKE IT IS TO DO A, A, A PROJECT THAT INCLUDES PRESERVING KIND OF THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE ROAD OR REPLACING IT OUTRIGHT WITH A MODERN ROAD, UM, IN THE NEW ROAD BED.
AND WE KNOW FROM THE PRESENTATION THEY DID HERE FOR THE COMMISSION HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO, THAT PRESERVING SOME OF THE HISTORIC NATURE AND GOING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY WE HAVE IS ACTUALLY LESS EXPENSIVE THAN JUST REPLACING THE ROAD OUTRIGHT.
BUT ARE YOU, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE WANNA JUST LEAVE IT ALONE COMPLETELY OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU NO, I JUST BRING UP SOME CONCERNS THAT YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE PURSUE PURSUING THE HISTORIC NATURE OF SMYRNA ROAD, THEN WE JUST TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PULL OUT, EVEN THOUGH RIGHT NOW THEY'RE PULLING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS ONTO A, A BUSY ROAD AS IS.
SO I CAN SAY THAT THAT DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE.
SO YOU'RE JUST SAYING WE TRY TO DESIGN IN TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN SEE THE, THE SIDEWALK AS THEY PULL OUT.
I FEEL LIKE WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.
THAT'S WHAT I WHAT INFORMATION THEN WE NEED MORE INPUT FROM HOMEOWNERS.
UH, I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION FROM ENGINEERING, FROM MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WILL DRIVE AND UNDERSTAND HOW IT'LL FEEL.
AND THERE'S ALL THE ASPECTS OF HISTORIC SAFETY, UM, THE, UM, EXPENSE FOR IT.
SO THAT, I'M JUST SAYING I FEEL LIKE WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, HEATHER, WE LOOKED AT THE LIABILITY.
THERE'S AN ADDED LIABILITY IF WE'RE CREATING A LINEAR PARK.
BUT NOW EVERY DRIVE, EVERY PERSON FROM THE SOUTH SIDE CUTTING ACROSS, YOU SAID MAYBE 11, CUT ACROSS 11, THEY'RE 11 ON THE DRAWING.
YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE CROSSING WHERE KIDS ARE RIDING BIKES AND PEOPLE ARE WALKING.
YEAH, WE HAVE THAT ALL ALONG CONCORD ROAD.
WE HAVE IT ALL ALONG SPLIT LOG ROAD.
WE HAVE IT ALONG WILSON PIKE WHERE WE HAVE OUR TRAILS CROSSING DRIVEWAYS.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE SOME VERSION OF THAT WHERE WE HAVE A SIDEWALK AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK BOTH WAYS BEFORE YOU CROSS THE SIDEWALK.
BEFORE I, I WOKE UP THE OTHER NIGHT AT FOUR IN THE MORNING BECAUSE YOU SENT US THIS BOOK AND I READ IT AND UH, THINKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT SMYRNA ROAD AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON THIS.
THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WENT THROUGH MY MIND AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
BUT YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S ALREADY FAST.
I THINK SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.
LEAVING IT LIKE IT IS, IS NOT, BUT WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE SOME TRAFFIC CALMING THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE ALONG THERE? AND PART OF WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT IS ARE WE ALSO, ARE WE ACTUALLY ADDING TO THE SPEED THAT WILL GO ON THERE BY MAKING THE NEW ROAD SO NICE THAT IT'S GOT WALKING PAST, TURNING LANES, TWO LANES, YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO CALM THAT WHERE, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.
WELL THAT WAS ALL INCLUDED IN THE STUDY WE JUST COMPLETED IS SOME CONCEPTUAL IDEAS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHICH IS ROUNDABOUTS AT THE DRIVEWAYS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
BUT AGAIN, JUST NEEDS TO DO YOU WANNA PROGRESS IT TO FURTHER ENGINEERING DESIGN OF THAT AND, AND FURTHER DEFINITION OF THAT? YEAH, I ORIGINALLY, I THOUGHT THE WHOLE IDEA OF A LINEAR PARK WOULD BE REALLY COOL NOW, BUT, UM, IT'S NOT IN MY BACKYARD.
THE MORE THAT I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE, UH, IN THAT AREA,
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THEY'RE NOT SO CRAZY ABOUT, UH, HAVING THAT THERE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT WILL ATTRACT MORE, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, OVER THERE.UH, AND THEN IMPROVING THAT ROADWAY TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT CAN, CARS CAN DRIVE MUCH FASTER, IS JUST GONNA ATTRACT MORE TRAFFIC AS WELL.
SO, UM, I'VE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, GATHER SOME MORE INFORMATION, THINK ABOUT IT SOME MORE, UH, AS WELL BECAUSE, UH, AGAIN, IT'S NOT MY BACKYARD AND IT'S EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA OVER THERE.
WELL, AGAIN, YOU TELL US WHAT YOU NEED.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE WE CAN PROVIDE FOR YOU TODAY.
I THINK PROBABLY NOTHING TODAY.
NO, I'M JUST SAYING RIGHT NOW UNTIL FURTHER WORK IS DONE.
AND, AND THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT THE COMPLETION OF WHITNEY HILL AND THE TIMING BEFORE WE WOULD GET INTO THE THROES OF THIS IS WE'RE GONNA LEARN A LOT MORE WITH THE OPENING OF THAT PARK IF THERE IS EVEN MORE INCREASED TRAFFIC THAT THAT PARK DRAWS, WHICH THERE WILL BE.
AND SO I THINK IT COULD CHANGE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW OF HOW IT'S USED, UM, IS THE DESIGN CURRENTLY IS BASED ON HOW IT'S USED CURRENTLY.
AND I KNOW THEY DO KIND OF PREDICTIONS THEY DO, BUT UNTIL WE REALLY KNOW ARE WE PULLING IN A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT PARKS IN BOTH DAVIDSON COUNTY AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY, THAT PARK I THINK IS GOING TO END UP PULLING A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM DAVIDSON COUNTY.
THAT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN RADNER LAKE IS OVERFLOWING AND NOBODY CAN FIND A PARKING SPOT THERE AND WE HAVE A LINEAR PARK AND WE HAVE IT CONNECTED TO LOTS OF PAVED WALKING TRAILS, WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH MORE PEOPLE FROM THAT KIND OF PERSPECTIVE.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THIS TO TURN IN FOR THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING IN FRONT OF THEM.
I DON'T WANT IT TO TURN INTO A RADNER LAKE KIND OF SITUATION WHERE THERE'S THAT MANY PEOPLE GOING UP AND DOWN BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE USED TO A VERY SERENE, CALM, YOU KNOW, THING.
SO I I I'M CONCERNED IF WE'RE KIND OF OVER A MONETIZING THAT AREA.
WE HAVE A LINEAR PARK AND WENDY HILL, SO I'M VERY INTERESTED TO GET WINDY HILL UP AND RUNNING AND KNOWING IF THIS ADDS A CONSIDERABLE MORE AMOUNT BEFORE WE KNOW WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO ON THIS.
'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GONNA DRAW SOME PEOPLE FROM DAVIDSON COUNTY TO THAT PARK.
I MEAN, AS, AS DISSOLVE FOR ASK A QUESTION.
I, I RESISTED THIS FOR YEARS AS YOU WELL KNOW.
'CAUSE OF THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THAT ROAD.
AND THEN GROVE PARK CAME ALONG AND SAID THEY WOULD DEDICATE ROAD IN THE FRONT WHITE OLD SMYRNA ROAD.
WE JUST PRESERVED THE ROCK WALLS.
THIS BOARD WAS SO GUNG-HO I FINALLY GOT ON BOARD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THEN.
THIS IS THE SAME PROJECT WE WERE ALL EXCITED ABOUT.
I, I, AGAIN, I, OUR PERSPECTIVE IS, I MEAN, AT ONE TIME EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S GOT IT'S RIFE WITH PROBLEMS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I I GUESS WE'RE STILL AT THE ISSUE OF WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN LEAVE THE ROAD AS IT IS AND SAY THAT THAT'S AN OPTION.
YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT ROAD AS IT IS.
SO BUILDING A NEW ROAD TO THE NORTH SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY VIABLE OPTION IF YOU DON'T WANNA CALL THIS A LINEAR PARK.
IT'S STILL GONNA BE A PAVED AREA THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA WALK ON.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU STOP THEM FROM DOING THAT.
UM, BUT IF THE TERM LINEAR PARK IS CONCERNING FOLKS, I, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE THE OLD ROAD CORRIDOR, HISTORIC FIELD, IT'S GOING TO BE THERE ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
WE DON'T HAVE TO CALL IT ANYTHING.
IT'S THERE WHETHER PEOPLE WOULD COME TO WINDY HILL PARK AND GO OUT AND JUST WALK UP AND DOWN TO THIS FOR A HALF MILE.
MAYBE OUR VIEW WAS IT WAS GIVING ACCESS TO THE RESIDENCE AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG THERE TO GET TO THE PARK.
THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT FUNCTIONALITY.
WELL, SOME PEOPLE MAYBE COME AND PARK AND WALK.
YEAH, I, I CAN'T SAY THEY WOULDN'T, BUT WE SAW IT AS A BENEFIT PRIMARILY FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE ALONG IN SMYRNA, WHO ARE NOW GONNA HAVE A NICE NEW PARK AT THE END OF IT.
WHICH IS THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IN A LOT OF OTHER OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE BUILD AMENITIES AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET THERE.
QUICK QUESTION EACH CUT THROUGH THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE TO GO FROM IF IT'S, I'M GONNA CALL IT THEIR DRIVEWAY EXTENDED.
IS THAT CITY PROPERTY OR IS THAT STILL THEIR DRIVEWAY? BECAUSE THE CITY PROPERTY, HOW DO WE PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PARKING ON THAT WHICH THAT HOMEOWNER CONSIDERS THEIR DRIVEWAY? WELL, IT'S PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SO I I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT TOO.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM PARKING THERE.
I CAN SPEAK TO THAT QUICKLY AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT, BUT SOME OF THE
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THINGS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT WOULD TYPICALLY BE THINGS THAT WE CONSIDER HEAVILY DURING DESIGN.WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
I MEAN, WE CAN PUT BALLARDS ON THE, UH, EACH SIDE OF THE DRIVES, UH, AND SIGNS WARNING THAT THIS IS A DRIVEWAY.
UM, WE COULD HAVE REFLECTIVE, WE COULD HAVE DEVICES, UH, COMING INTO THE DRIVEWAY AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN FROM THE, FROM THE EVENING, UM, AND THE TRAFFIC CALMING FEATURES THAT ARE PROPOSED CONCEPTUALLY.
WE COULD ADD MORE, WE COULD TAKE AWAY SOME.
THIS WOULD ALL BE FLESHED OUT IN DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, MAKE IT AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE FOR BOTH THE RESIDENTS MOTORISTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD USE THAT AREA TRAIL, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT THE INFORMATION YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT REALLY COMES IN THE NEXT STEP.
WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING, WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO PRESENT DEFINITIVELY THAN WHAT WE PRESENTED IN DECEMBER.
SO, BUT UM, ANYWAY, I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE WE STAND, UM, AS FAR AS WHAT'S PRESENTED IN HERE.
AND THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE A DESIGN CONTRACT FOR YOU ALL'S CONSIDERATION.
AND WE MAY BRING THAT FORWARD AND THEN YOU ALL CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND DECIDE FROM THERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE WE MOVE A, A DECISION FORWARD.
UM, RAGSDALE ROAD, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH TO TALK THERE.
UH, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
STILL THINKING NEXT MONDAY FOR CLOSURE.
UH, YEAH, BUT WE'LL, AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE WON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN UNTIL TOMORROW.
SO ON RAGSDALE AND ON SPLIT LOG PHASE THREE, I, I WAS UNAWARE UNTIL I READ THIS, THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND THE PLAN WAS FOR A 10 FOOT BIKE, PEDESTRIAN PASS PATH ON ONE SIDE AND A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT AND REDUNDANT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIKE FRANKLIN ROAD AND CONCORD ROAD, WE HAVE ONE 10 FOOT PATH.
SO YOU HAVE A SECTION OF CONCORD THAT HAS PATH AND SIDEWALK.
AND THEN FRANKLIN HAS ALL 10 FOOT PATH, RIGHT? IT SEEMS TO ME OVERKILL TO HAVE IT A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE AND A 10 FOOT PATH ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THIS IS OUR DESIRED NEW STANDARD.
SIMPLY BECAUSE WHAT WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE ON STONEHENGE AND FRANKLIN ROAD IS, WELL, IT'S GREAT YOU GOT A PATH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
I CAN'T WALK ACROSS FRANKLIN ROAD.
SAME THING ON CONCORD ROAD IS TO, SO WHEN YOU GOT NEIGHBORHOODS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, YOU'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN BIKING, PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES ON EACH SIDE SO THAT THEY CAN GET THERE AND NOT HAVE TO RUN ACROSS A MAJOR ROAD TO GET TO THE TRAIL.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF, UH, CONCORD HUNT, UH, BRENT MEAD, UH, LANDSDOWN, THAT'S STANDARD THERE.
THAT'S THE STANDARD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE THAT SERVES BOTH SIDES, NEIGHBORHOODS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT, THEN THAT'S FINE, BUT THAT'S THE, THE REASONING AND THE STANDARD THAT WE HAD WHEN WE DID THE LAST PHASE OF CONCORD, WHICH IS THAT SECTION, THAT'S WHAT WE WENT TO AND WE SAID THAT WAS GONNA BE OUR STANDARD GOING FORWARD WHEN WE'VE GOT NEIGHBORHOODS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
IF WE DID GO TO ONLY THE 10 FOOT BIKE PATH, ON WHAT SIDE WOULD IT, ONE SIDE, WOULD IT CHANGE THE UM, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION NUMBERS BY MUCH? I ASSUME IT WOULD.
BECAUSE, UH, YEAH, THERE'S A BIT MORE RIGHT OF WAY WE ACQUIRE FOR THE, FOR THE WIDTH OF THE PATH THAN, THAN IT WOULD BE FOR THE SIDEWALL.
AND JUST SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THE QUESTION WAS THERE.
NOW RAGSDALE IS ALREADY DESIGNED, WE WE'RE ALREADY IN RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION FOR THAT.
SO THE SIDEWALK IS ALREADY THERE.
I THINK DRAGS DEAL AND SPLIT LOG WERE MENTIONED.
AND REALLY WHAT WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT IS MODIFICATIONS TO THE SPLIT LOG PLANS.
SO YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT SOME OF THIS HASN'T HAPPENED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BRENTWOOD BECAUSE IT WASN'T ANTICIPATED IN ADVANCE.
AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE US DESIGN IT OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CITY WHEN WE'RE DOING THE DESIGNS AND ALREADY HAVE IT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NICE CITY.
IT'S A PREMIUM CITY AND I THINK THIS IS ALL PART OF THAT.
AND THE THOUGHT IS, LET'S TAKE RAGSDALE IN THE NEW RAGSDALE SUBDIVISION.
YOU GOT KIDS IN THERE WHO GO TO JORDAN, MIDDLE OR ELEMENTARY AND THEY WANNA WALK OR RIDE TO SCHOOL.
YOU'D LIKE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A SIDEWALK DOWN TO SPLIT LOG CROSS AT THE SIGNAL AND GO TO THE SCHOOL AS OPPOSED TO HAVE TO RIDE OR RUN ACROSS
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RAGSDALE TO GET TO THE TRAIL.I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE VISION.
IF THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU ALL WANT, THEN LET US KNOW.
I'D SAY FOR RAGSDALE, THE REALITY IS YOU'D SPEND MORE REDESIGNING EVERYTHING, THEN YOU'RE GONNA SPEND ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ITSELF.
BUT FOR FUTURE SPLIT LOG OR THE REST OF IT, THAT'S NOT THE, THE VISION YOU WANT FOR BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, THEN LET US KNOW.
CAN WE JUST BREAK OUT ONE SIDE VERSUS THE OTHER, JUST RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION, JUST SO WE HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
AND I'M SORRY, JUST, JUST TO BE, TO BE CLEAR ON THAT IS CONCERNING SPLIT LOG, WE'RE NEAR RIGHT OF WAY PLANNED COMPLETION ON THAT ONE AS WELL.
BUT ROUGHLY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EASY TO SAY THAT AS FAR AS HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL, IS IT SIX FEET MORE EACH ON THAT SIDE? I DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE ARE YOU HAVING TO DO THE LAYOUT OF THE ROAD? ARE YOU HAVING TO, DO YOU KNOW ALL THESE PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION ALREADY FOR THE ROAD? OR ARE YOU DOING IT JUST FOR SIDEWALK? NO, YOU'RE DOING IT FOR THE ROAD AND JUST ADDING ANOTHER FIVE, SIX FEET DOWN THE OTHER SIDE FROM THE SIDE.
SO YOU'RE ALREADY IN NEGOTIATION WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE.
IT'S ALL PART OF THE ROAD PROJECT.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED AT THE, AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HERE WITH THE REGS DALE SUBDIVISION, BUT IN SPLIT LOG, THE NEXT PHASE, FAIR AMOUNT OF THAT IS THROUGH ROSEBROOK AND UM, YES, TELLURIDE AND THAT'S ALL BEING DEDICATED.
NO, I JUST NEED, WHEREVER WE DO IT, I NEED, I JUST NEED AN ANSWER FOR, IT'S A BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT, SO I NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ANSWER.
SORRY, WHEN SOMEBODY QUESTIONS.
CATHERINE AND I WERE JUST CONFERRING ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RIGHT OF WAY THAT YOU ACQUIRE OUTSIDE, UH, THE FACE OF THE CURB ANYWAY, JUST FOR SAFETY AND CLEAR ZONES, RIGHT TODD? YOU CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
SO THE, THE DIFFERENCE CONCERNING RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION WOULD BE MINIMAL.
I, I, I REALLY COULDN'T PUT A NUMBER TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, THEY SAY 70% OF STATISTICS ARE MADE UP ON THE SPOT.
I JUST, WHEN SOMEBODY SEES THAT, AND THAT'S A BIG NUMBER, IT HELPS ME TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND A VERY SMALL PART OF IT WOULD BE THE EXTRA SIDEWALK SIDE.
AGAIN, YOU GOT STORM DRAIN THAT EXTENDS BEHIND THAT CURB ALREADY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO, OKAY.
UH, SO YOU'LL LET US KNOW THAT THE CLOSURE IS GONNA HAPPEN ON MONDAY, RIGHT? YES.
THIS WOULD BE FROM SAM DONALD NORTH TO LINE UP WITH WALLER, UM, ENGINEERING WORK.
SOME PRELIMINARY WORK HAS BEEN DONE.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO CONTINUE THAT FORWARD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS WITH FINALIZING, UH, ENGINEERING STARTING RIGHT AWAY.
AND THEN TRYING TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN START CONSTRUCTION ON THIS SHORTLY AFTER RAGSDALE IS COMPLETE.
IF EVERYTHING COMES TOGETHER, THIS ONE BECOMES THE, THE BYPASS FOR RAGSDALE.
SO HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ON HERE UNTIL ONE IS DONE.
UH, AND AGAIN, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THIS RED AREA HERE.
THIS BLUE AREA IS STILL ALL IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT SAM, DONALD UP, HE CUT ACROSS, GET RID OF THAT SHARP CURVE THERE AND THEN CUT THROUGH THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD AND END UP TO WALL ROAD AND LINE UP WITH FOUR LANE INTERSECTION.
UM, SO AGAIN, THOSE TWO KIND OF RUN IN SEQUENCE ONE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE OTHER ONE.
ALL STREET LIGHTING, REALLY NOTHING THERE.
AS YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT IS DONE.
UM, FOR ANY ADDITIONS THAT WE MIGHT IDENTIFY.
UM, SUSANNA AND, AND ALLISON, WE HAD TALKED A LITTLE WAY EARLY ON ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE, NOT YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT THE OTHER, THE, WHICH OUR STUDY SHOWS WAS UNDER LIT COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S STILL AN INTEREST IN THE AMONG NEIGHBORS THERE TO ADD SOME LIGHTS.
WELL, ESPECIALLY THE REQUEST ESPECIALLY WAS WHEN YOU'RE COMING OFF OF WILDWOOD DRIVE, TURNING RIGHT ON BEVILLE, KIND OF NEAR WHERE THE AT AND T IS, BUT THERE SUB BOX OR WHATEVER, UM, BEHIND THE VULTURES WHERE YOU'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH THEM DIGGING UP.
'CAUSE IT'S VERY DARK WHEN YOU COME AROUND THAT CORNER.
AND THEN SOME OF THE AREAS, EVEN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE RIVER THERE TOO, AGAIN, IF YOU LOOKED AT OUR STUDY, IT WAS CLEAR THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND ONE OTHER ONE, I THINK THAT WERE, WE HAD ANNEXED AND, AND THE DENSITY OF THE LIGHTS WAS, WAS, WAS LACKING.
BUT SOME PEOPLE LIKE NEW LIGHTS AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T.
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WANNA JUST GO DO IT WITHOUT SOME NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT ON, I'M HEARING FROM NEIGHBORS, THEY DON'T WANT ANY MORE LIGHTS.SO, SO WE HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ELSE.
THAT'S WHY WE HADN'T PURSUED IT.
WE HAD ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE SOMEBODY WAS REALLY HOT TO TROT WITH IT, RIGHT? AND WE SAID, GO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND THEN LET US KNOW.
AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM THAT EXCEPT FOR THE ONE BEHIND THE FERS WHERE THEY HAD ALL THOSE NEIGHBORS HAD ALREADY AGREED.
THEY WANTED, THAT'S BEEN LIKE, BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED THE LIGHT PROJECT, THEY WANTED THAT AND THEY KIND OF SAID, IT'S COMING, HANG ON.
THOSE PEOPLE ALL AGREED THEY WANTED.
WELL IF YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IN AN IMMEDIATE AREA THAT IS, YOU KNOW, INTERESTED AND THERE'S A POLL THERE TO PUT ONE OUT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS.
WE'RE PUTTING UP NEW POLES, JUST ADDING A, AN ARM ON IT, THEN LET US KNOW WE CAN DO THAT.
IT'S THAT ONE RIGHT BY THE A BEHIND THE VULTURES BY THE AT T.
WE'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT THERE'S CLEAR CONSENSUS AMONG ALL THE AFFECTED NEIGHBORS.
I CAN'T PROVIDE CLEAR CONSENSUS FOR YOU
THERE IS NO SITUATION, BUT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THERE.
IF, IF WE FIND A, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT PUTTING IN A BUNCH OF NEW DECORATIVE LIGHTS IN SOME NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS JUST OVERHEAD ARMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, STREET RESURFACING AGAIN, WE'RE ADDING, UM, A HUNDRED THOUSAND GOING FROM 2.7 TO 2.8.
WE'RE SHOWING IT, IT INCREASING A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR.
BUT AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE CAN SUSTAIN THAT, UH, THROUGH SOME ONE-TIME FUNDING.
AND THEN PROBABLY STARTING TO ADD TO THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET ALSO, UH, SUNSET RAGSDALE REALIGNMENT.
UH, AGAIN, JUST SOME, WE'VE GOT A PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAS PROPERTY ON THIS PROJECT AND ON THE OTHER PROJECT.
SO WE'VE STILL GOT SOME CONDEMNATION CASES THERE.
UH, THIS IS THE OLDER OF THE TWO PROJECTS.
UM, PAGE 94 IS SUNSET ROAD PHASE TWO.
WE DID WORK TO SHORTEN AN ISLAND AND EXTEND THE LEFT TURN LANE GOING TO CONCORD.
UH, THAT'S THE 60,000 YOU SEE IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR RIGHT FINAL RIGHT OF WAY SETTLEMENT.
AGAIN, SAME PROPERTY OWNER ON BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS.
JUST NOT WANTING TO MOVE IT ALONG, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO 96 SUNSET ROAD PHASE THREE.
THIS WOULD BE FARTHER OUT AFTER SPLIT LOG.
AND THIS IS THE REST OF SUNSET FROM RAGSDALE TO WALLER.
WE'RE SHOWING SOME PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING WORK IN 27 AND 28.
AND THEN, UH, POTENTIAL RIGHT OF WAY IN 29 CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE FARTHER OUT FROM THAT.
UM, THIS IS A COMBINATION OF REALLY TWO THINGS.
ONE IS JUST SOME ANNUAL EQUIPMENT UPGRADES AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UH, UH, MARTIN YATES AND TODD PUT TOGETHER.
AND SO THAT'S, UH, SOME NEW CABLE OR NEW SIGNAL CABLES AND SOME KITS AND TRAILERS AND SOME CCTV REPLACEMENT CAMERAS.
UM, THEN WE'VE GOT THE CMAC GRANT, WHICH IS THE TIMING AND RETIMING OF ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
UM, YOU WILL HAVE ALSO IN HERE AND IT'S SHOWN IN 24, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAFFIC SIGNAL PREEMPTION WORK AT 360,000.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT AGENDA ITEM.
SO IT SHOULD BE REVIEWED APRIL 22ND MEETING.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL ALL GET SPENT BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 30TH OR NOT, BUT SOME OF THAT MAY CARRY OVER.
WE'RE SHOWING IT IN 24 NOW, BUT THAT'S THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL PREEMPTION.
SO THAT'S EQUIPMENT AT EVERY SIGNAL.
UH, AND THEN IT'S THE SAME EQUIPMENT THAT FRANKLIN HAS, SO CORRECT US AND FRANKLIN AND EMS ALL OPERATE TOGETHER.
SO WE CAN PREEM FRANKLIN'S LIGHTS AND THEY CAN PREEM OURS.
AND THEN WILSON PIKE THAT, UH, WITH OUR APOLOGIES IS JUST ONE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OTHER THINGS.
THAT'S SOME, UH, LOOKING AT SOME SPOT SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO MOVE THAT, UM, FORWARD INTO NEXT YEAR AND GET THAT DONE.
LIMITED POTENTIAL THERE, BUT WANNA LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS I THINK.
ALRIGHT, THAT GETS US THROUGH.
WE'VE BEEN AT IT NOT QUITE TWO HOURS, SO WE WANT TO TAKE A BREAK, GRAB A SANDWICH, BUT WE'LL TRY TO KEEP WORKING WHILE WE'RE EATING AND, AND GET DONE.
THE REST OF THIS SHOULDN'T TAKE TOO LONG.
CHRIS IS PROMISED FIVE MINUTES.
WELL, MOST OF HIS, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT OVER THE TIME, SO IT TAKE LONG PARKS WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN GET DONE AND ONCE WE GET STARTED AGAIN, ANOTHER 30 OR 40 MINUTES.
SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE A BREAK, GRAB A SANDWICH AND TRY TO GET GOING AGAIN AND, UH, FIVE OR 10 MINUTES.
EVERYBODY OBVIOUSLY KEEP EATING.
WE'LL TRY TO MOVE THROUGH THE REST OF THIS PRETTY QUICKLY.
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WATER, YOU NEED SOME MORE? NO.UH, NEXT UP IS STORM DRAINAGE AND, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT IN THERE.
WE'VE GOT ONE PROJECT, WHICH IS JUST KIND OF GENERALIZED SUBDIVISION DRAIN ENGINE.
SO THIS ENCOMPASSES BOTH TODD'S, UH, KIND OF ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR ITEMS. THE CONTRACT WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE AGENDA TODAY, THAT'S 750,000, UM, WHICH WOULD BE ARC FUNDING.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THERE.
YOU REMEMBER WE DID THE MASTER PLAN STUDY OF, OF A PART OF THE CITY AND KIND OF CAME BACK TO YOU AND SAID WE REALLY DIDN'T GET KIND OF A BIG WILD PROJECT THAT WE THOUGHT WAS GONNA MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND SOME OF THE ITEMS IN THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THINGS WE THOUGHT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE PERCEIVED AS MAKING THINGS WORSE WHEN WE PUT A BIGGER PIPE UNDER THE ROAD OR THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, BUT WE THINK THERE ARE STILL A FEW THINGS IN THAT FIRST PHASE OF STUDY THAT ARE WORTHY OF SOME FURTHER CONSIDERATION LIKE MARYLAND WAY PARK.
UM, WE'VE STILL GOT AN ISSUE AT PEACH COURT.
I DON'T KNOW IF'S A PUBLIC ISSUE OR A PRIVATE ONE, BUT, SO WE'VE GOT SOME MONEY IN THERE FOR, UH, DEREK AND SIR CATHERINE TO GET KIND OF LIKE YOU JUST DID WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING, GET A COUPLE CONSULTANTS ON BOARD, GIVE THEM A COUPLE OF THESE AND LET 'EM DO A LITTLE BIT OF FURTHER, UM, INVESTIGATION DESIGN WORK AND SEE IF WE CAN'T DEVELOP A FEW, UH, WORTHWHILE MEANINGFUL PROJECTS OUT OF THERE, UH, OUT OF THAT FIRST PHASE OF STUDY.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT 200,000 IS NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN WE GOT A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND OR 500,000 OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS IN THEORY IF WE GET SOME PROJECTS DEVELOPED, UH, TO, TO WORK ON THOSE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN STORM TRAILERS THERE.
UM, HERE'S A PICTURE, UH, TODD MAY HAVE SENT US THERE ON THE RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME PIPE OR NOT, BUT ON THE RIGHT IS WHAT IT WAS.
AND ON THE LEFT IS WHAT IT'S DONE AFTERWARDS.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO PARKS AND RECREATION.
UM, A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE IN HERE IS FACILITIES MAINTENANCE TYPE STUFF, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A COUPLE BIG PROJECTS.
SO DAVE STARTING ON ONE 12 AND CROCKETT PARK, EVERYTHING BUT THE RACKET FACILITY.
SO WHY DON'T YOU GO OVER WHAT YOU GOT THERE.
THEN THE NEXT PAGE IS THE RACKET FACILITY.
UM, UH, THE TURF PROGRAM, UH, OR THE TURF REPLACEMENT'S GONNA BEGIN MAY 23RD.
SO THAT WILL KIND OF BE AN OVERLAP.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THE, THE HISTORIC PAVILION WILL ALSO BE AN OVERLAP PROJECT FROM THIS YEAR TO NEXT YEAR.
UH, BUT FOR NEXT YEAR, UM, COUPLE CARRYOVERS IS, UH, AMPHITHEATER SETTLING, UH, AGAINST FOURPLEX ROOF PAINTING OR REPLACEMENT, UH, RESURFACING OF THE SEVEN TENNIS COURT.
UM, SCOREBOARD, UH, REPLACEMENTS ON THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD.
UH, TUNNEL LIGHT, UH, CONVERSION, LED UH, SEVERAL UH, BUILDINGS NEED THE MISCELLANEOUS PAINTING DONE ON THEM.
UH, CONCRETE CARROTS THROUGH FORKLIFT ONE OVER THE YEARS THE TREES HAVE STARTED BUCKLING THE COMPLEX SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START MITIGATING SOME OF THAT STUFF.
UH, FEED REPAIRS, COMMUNITY PLAYGROUND, UH, WE PUT $50,000 IF WE DID HAVE AN ASSESSMENT DONE ON THAT.
UH, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON WHERE WE GO.
BUT FOR THIS YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES TO GET US THROUGH ANOTHER YEAR.
THEN WE'LL HAVE FORWARD WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO WITH, UM, THE ASSESSMENTS PRETTY MUCH SAYS WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
THEY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO SOMETHING, WHICH, UH, I MENTIONED THOSE TWO THEN, UH,
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WHAT THOSE ARE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST A PLACEHOLDER.
UM, WE'VE KIND OF KNOCKED BACK THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES AT THE SPRINGS HOUSE, SO IT'S A PRETTY GOOD STATE.
AND THEN ABOUT THE, UM, HISTORIC PAVILIONS.
DAVE, WE HAD TALKED PREVIOUSLY AND YOU WERE GONNA KIND OF WAIT AND SEE IF A LEADERSHIP REP WOULD CLASS, WANTED TO DO IT, BUT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT GETTING SOME SHADE OVER THE BENCHES, UM, AT THE TENNIS COURTS AT CROCKETT AND POSSIBLY AT GRADY WHITE.
UH, PEOPLE SCHOLAR OR ANYTHING OR LEADERSHIP WANTED TO TAKE THAT ON.
UM, I DID NOT PUT ANY MONEY IN IT.
IF YOU, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT PUT IN I CAN, I CAN PRICE IT OUT.
IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING I CAN DO OUT MY OPERATING LICENSE.
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PARKS HAVE SOMETHING AND I THINK I SENT YOU A PICTURE WHAT, THERE'S SOME THAT HANG ON THE FENCE AND THERE'S SOME THAT ARE RIGHT STANDALONE.SO I'D LIKE TO AND IT SHOULD BE TWO EXPENSIVE, BUT OKAY.
I'D LIKE FOR US TO PUT THAT IN.
DO YOU MIND REMINDING US HOW MUCH BRENTWOOD BALL CLUB PUTS IN TOWARDS THE TURF? UM, HOW MUCH THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS THAT PROJECT? HALF OF THE HALF OF THE PROJECT.
I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THEY WERE THANK YOU.
THE HISTORIC PAVILION THAT WILL GO AT THE LOCATION OF THE OLD
WE AUTHORIZED TO DO AN RFP, WHICH RESULTS ARE BACK.
WE'VE WORKING ON THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE APRIL 22ND AGENDA, UH, TO POTENTIALLY CONTRACT WITH DOUG MAJORS OF, OF MAJOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE THE PROJECT INTEGRATOR AND GET THIS PROJECT GOING.
UM, ONE 14 THEN WE BROKE OUT THE RACKET FACILITY FROM LAST YEAR.
IT WAS JUST IN WITH CROCKETT PARK, WHICH HAS A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.
SO WE FELT LIKE WE OUGHT BREAK IT OUT SEPARATELY AS A PROJECT.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING GEOTECHNICAL WORK AND SOME SURVEY WORK DONE.
SO THAT HAS BEEN CONTRACTED AND WE'LL BE UNDERWAY HERE SHORTLY, WHICH WILL JUST KIND OF BE THE FIRST STEP OF KEEPING THINGS MOVING ALONG HERE.
UH, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE, I THINK THE $45,000, UH, IN THE CURRENT YEAR OR THAT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT IT ENDED UP BEING, BUT ARE WE IN THE PROCESS YET TO GETTING BIDS FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR THEY DOING THAT? I MEAN WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEGUN DESIGN WORK.
I MEAN, ARE WE NO, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP, BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW, STILL GOT SOME OTHER THINGS IN PLAY AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
SO I'M TRYING TO DECIDE HOW TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU.
IN ALL HONESTY, SINCE DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS ON THE COMMISSION AND THERE'S NOT BEEN A CLEAR CONSENSUS OF HOW WE'RE DOING IT, WE PUT MONEY IN HERE TO KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING THROUGH DESIGN FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND OBVIOUSLY IF WE DO ANOTHER AVENUE THEN WE JUST ADJUST THOSE NUMBERS ACCORDINGLY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO, SO WHAT YOU'VE GOT HERE IS YOU'VE GOT $800,000 NEXT YEAR SHOWING THOSE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR THE, UM, MEETINGS WE HAD RECENTLY WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT FEW OTHER IDEAS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE WE'LL BE PREPARED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION OF THAT AT YOUR NEXT BRIEFING AS FAR AS WHETHER THAT'S AN OPTION YOU WANT TO CONSIDER.
ACTUALLY HAD A SECOND, UM, PARTY REACH OUT TO ME WITH ANOTHER AVENUE OF A, OF A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THING.
SOMEBODY TO EXPLORE THAT A LITTLE FURTHER AS TO WHETHER THAT'S EVEN SOMETHING TO DISCUSS.
SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THOSE THINGS WORKING.
SO WHAT'S HERE IS, IS ENOUGH TO KEEP THE THING MOVING UNTIL WE MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON ARE WE DOING IT FOR SURE.
ARE WE DOING IT WITH A PARTNER ARE AND WHAT'S OUR SHARE OF THE OVERALL PROJECT? AND LOOK AT THIS, WHAT KIND OF OCCURRED TO ME AS I WAS LOOKING AT KIND OF THE BREAKOUT ON UM, WITH THIS NEEDING TO BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND FOR TRANSPARENCY.
UM, I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT TWO WHAT PERCENT OF BOTH IF THE PARK OFFICES GO IN THERE, WHAT PERCENT OF THAT NEEDS TO BE PULLED OUT OR SEPARATED OUT FROM THE ENTERPRISE FUND, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THE ROAD AND SO FORTH FOR TRANSPARENCY.
'CAUSE 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN PUT THE ENTIRE, IT WOULD JUST BE THE PARKS INTO THAT GENERATING FACILITY PARK THAT, UM, SO I THINK WE NEED A LINE ITEM THOUGH, A PORTION OUT OF THE ROAD AND THE PARK OFFICES FROM THE OVERALL PROJECT, UM, THIS COST SAVINGS ON THE PARK SIDE AND PUTTING THIS HERE, YOU CAN'T DUMP IT ALL INTO THE ACTUAL BRACKET FACILITY.
SO THE TRANSPARENCY, SO I THINK ONCE WE MAKE A DECISION, WE GONNA INCLUDE THE CURRENT OFFICES, ARE WE GONNA DO A
BUT THE ENTERPRISE FUND IS REALLY MORE THE OPERATIONS, THE FACILITY.
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PULLING MONEY OUT FOR REPLACEMENTS.BUT I'M SAYING IT WOULD JUST BE, UM, AND I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO OUR ACCOUNTS HERE AS TO THE PARK OFFICE PERCENTAGE THAT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND BUILDING OR SEPARATED OUT EITHER WAY.
WE DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE A, UM, A DATE AND WE'RE GONNA DECIDE WHAT
WELL WE HAD A COUPLE NEW WRINKLES HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I THINK WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A PUBLIC PRIVATE OPTION AND IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE THAT, UM, THEN I THINK THE NEXT STEP IN THAT WOULD BE, UH, UH, A LETTER OF INTENT THAT SAYS, OKAY, FOR THE NEXT 90 DAYS WE'RE GONNA TRY TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL WITH THESE PARAMETERS AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT 90 DAYS, WE EITHER HAVE A DEAL THAT YOU, YOU ALL VOTE ON OR NOT, OR YOU KNOW, OR IF WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE SOMETHING SUFFICIENT IN THAT 90 DAYS, THEN WE JUST SAY, WELL WE TRY, WE DON'T, AND THEN GO BACK TO, OKAY, ARE WE GONNA DO IT ON OUR OWN OR GO BACK TO THE COUNTY OR WHATEVER.
SO, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY, UH, A LATE SUMMER TYPE OF TIMEFRAME IF WE DO THIS LETTER OF INTENT AND GIVE OURSELVES SOME TIME TO NEGOTIATE WITH A PRIVATE ENTITY, I'M OFF FOR DOING A LETTER OF INTENT AND DOING IT NOW AND GETTING IT ON, WHICH IS THE, THE BASIS OF MY MEETING THIS AFTERNOON, WHICH IS TO CLARIFY SOME TERMS OF THE DRAFT LETTER THAT I HAVE THAT I THINK A FEW THINGS NEED TO BE TWEAKED AND THEN WE'LL GET HOPEFULLY A REVISED OF THAT, SHARE IT WITH YOU AND THEN MAYBE WE'RE PRESENTING OR DISCUSSING IT AT YOUR NEXT BRIEFING.
I DO DO WANNA KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GEOTECHNICAL AND EVEN THE DESIGN BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CONCEPTUAL THINGS BUT WE DON'T HAVE TRUE DESIGN THAT MAY HELP US IN TRULY FIGURING OUT THE NEGOTIATIONS TRUE OF ANY PRIVATE RIGHT.
JUST KNOW THAT THE, THE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP LETTER OF INTENT WOULD HAVE THEM HAVING A SAY IN THE SELECTION OF THE ARCHITECTS.
SO AT LEAST THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE WITH THAT.
I'M NOT SAYING THEY WOULD OBJECT TO WHO WE MIGHT GO WITH, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S PART OF THAT DEAL.
SO I THINK WE CAN IT UP TO START.
YEAH, I MEAN I, IF YOU WANTED TO GO WITH, WITH C AND I, WHICH IS BRIAN RICHTER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE MOST INVOLVED THEN, I MEAN HE'S PREPARED TO GIVE YOU A PROPOSAL.
NOW AGAIN, WE'RE DOING SEVEN TENNIS COURTS OR SIX, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
UM, BUT WHAT GEOTECHNICAL WORK WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP ANYWAY.
WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TO HAVE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD? I FEEL, I FEEL LIKE THINGS HAVE KIND OF STALLED OUT A LITTLE BIT AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD NO MATTER WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM.
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING AT THIS POINT IF, I MEAN I'VE GOT THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN AT LEAST FURTHER DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO A POTENTIAL PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
AND SO IT'S BRINGING THAT PRIVATE PARTY TO YOU AND, AND THE FORM OF MOVING THAT FORWARD, WHICH AGAIN, I MEAN THE EARLIEST THAT CAN BE WOULD BE THE NEXT BRIEFING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE THAT LETTER OF INTENT ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT.
I MIGHT HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY WOULD BE THE CONSIDERATION OF A LETTER THAT, SIMILAR TO OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER WITH MTAS AND POTENTIALLY A THIRD PARTY UM, FIRM TO HELP US SELECT PEER REPLACEMENT.
UM, COULD WE RUN THIS CONCURRENTLY? CAN WE, CAN WE STILL HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PRIVATE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED? THERE MAY BE MORE THAT COME AND STILL DECIDE THERE'S A ROUTE WE'RE GOING TO GO AND CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD THAT AND THEN INCORPORATE THAT IN SOME CAPACITY WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE.
IS THIS, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AN ALL OR NOTHING SITUATION.
SO CAN WE RUN THAT CONCURRENTLY? YOU SORT OF SEE THE PSYCHOLOGY SMYRNA ROAD, THERE'S A LOT MORE INFORMATION NEEDED.
THANKFULLY WE STOPPED A YEAR AGO AND COLLECTED ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION ON THE WHAT A FACILITY CAN DO, WHAT KIND OF REVENUE IT CAN BRING IN ALL THE SURVEY REALLY GOOD ABOUT BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND I KNOW THAT WITH THE CITY, WITH OUR BUDGET, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PARTNER.
IF WE CHOOSE TO HAVE A PARTNER AND IT TAKES OUR RISK DOWN AND THAT WORKS GREAT FOR THE CITY, THEN AWESOME.
BUT IF WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PARTNER TO MOVE FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS FACILITY.
SO I GUESS I'M CURIOUS, CAN WE CONTINUE, CAN WE START MOVING FORWARD IN A FASHION AND THEN INCORPORATE A, A PARTNER IF WE NEED TO, UM, AND THEN THE PARTNER WILL KNOW THAT WE CAN DO IT WITH OR WITHOUT THEM.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THEM AND THAT MIGHT GIVE US MORE NEGOTIATING.
WELL AGAIN, I'M SAYING THAT THE PARTNER THAT THAT WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH WOULD AS INDICATED THEY WOULD WANT SOME INPUT INTO THE NEXT DECISION MAKING RELATIVE TO DESIGN OF THE FACILITY.
I THAT'S A, THAT'S, I'M SURE THEY HAVE A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS TO ASK ABOUT AND THAT'S GREAT AND THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT
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PARTNER TO MOVE FORWARD.WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON OUR OWN WITH OUR OWN FACILITY, WITH OUR OWN FUNDING.
SO CAN WE CONCURRENTLY DO THAT LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH MAS AND THIRD PARTY? I DON'T SEE HOW IT GOES CONCURRENT.
I MEAN IT SEEMS TO ME YOU NEED TO, THE, THE DECISION RIGHT NOW IS YOU GOT THREE CHOICES.
YOU DO IT YOURSELF OR YOU DO IT WITH A PARTNER.
AND I THINK IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT WITH A PARTNER, YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP DEFINED AND UNDERSTOOD BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY DESIGN WORK.
BUT WE CAN DO THE GEOTECHNICAL 'CAUSE THAT MIGHT IMPACT AND THAT'S WORKING, THAT'S UNDERWAY.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP OF ANY DESIGN WORK IS THAT WORK ANYWAY.
AND THAT'S UNDERWAY AND WE'LL BE DONE BY THE END OF MAY.
SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I THINK THEY'RE DOING SOME CONCURRENT WORK.
AND I THINK THAT CAN BE GIVING THE PARTNER MORE POWER THAN THEY NEED TO HAVE IN THE NEGOTIATION TOOL BECAUSE WE CAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY HAVE MORE THAN ONE PARTNER.
WE CAN DO, WE COULD, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
WE COULD HAVE TWO PARTNERS IF IT WORKED OUT THAT WAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT, BUT THE CITY HAS THE LAND AND WE HAVE THE RESOURCE AND WE HAVE THE INFORMATION.
WE'VE DONE A YEAR'S WORTH OF STUDY AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITHOUT A PARTNER.
WELL I WOULD LIKE, I DON'T WANNA BEAT THE DEAD HORSE ON THIS, BUT WE HAD A PARTNER ONE TIME AND WE PUT THAT ON HOLD INDEFINITELY WHILE WE GOT MORE.
THE CITY COMMISSION VOTED TO PUT IT ON HOLD INDEFINITELY.
WE CAN GO BACK TO THE TAPE AND SEE THE WORDS.
THAT'S, WE CAN PUT THAT ON HOLD INDEFINITELY WHILE WE GOT MORE INFORMATION, WE GOT INFORMATION, NOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET HELP PAYING FOR THIS.
AGAIN, NO ONE SAID OUR PARTNER HAD TO BE THE COUNTY.
THIS PRIVATE PARTNER MAY BE THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING.
IT WOULD SHARE PART OF THE BURDEN.
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I THINK THE TAXPAYERS EXPECT US TO LOOK AT ALL AVENUES TO HELP PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO HAPPEN.
WE'RE JUST SAYING LET'S FUND THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS WAY FOR THE CITY OF PRIVILEGE TO PAY FOR IT.
I I WOULD IF I WERE THIS FELLOW THAT CONSIDERING THIS, BUT WE'RE MOVING ON.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SERIOUSLY HE'S TAKING US, YOU KNOW? UH, I I JUST DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM WITH SLOWING DOWN.
EVEN IF IT WE'VE DONE WITHOUT A PUBLIC TENNIS FACILITY FOR A BIT, THEY CAN STILL PLAY AT MARYLAND FARMS. LET'S DO IT.
IF IT WAS ON HOLD TILL WE GET ALL OUR ANSWERS.
SO, AND YOU SAID WE'VE GOT ALL THE INFORMATION.
I'VE NEVER FELT THAT WE HAD ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEEDED.
UH, THE NUMBERS WE ARE ACCEPTING ON FACE VALUE, WHAT WAS PROVIDED US AS REVENUE AND COST AND EXPENSES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ON, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS OTHER PRIVATE PERSON'S PROJECTIONS OF THOSE SAME THINGS.
AND AND AND AGAIN, THE FIRST STEP OF ANY DESIGN WORK, IF WE WERE FULLY UNDER CONTRACT FOR DESIGN WORK WOULD BE GEOTECHNICAL WORK AND SURVEYING.
AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND THAT'LL TAKE US THROUGH THE END OF OR END OF MAY.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME YOU WILL HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THE PUBLIC PRIVATE OPTION, AT LEAST THE ONE THAT IS ON THE TABLE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THAT PARTY OR NOT.
IF WE ARE, THEN YOU, OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO LET THOSE NEGOTIATIONS PLAY OUT OVER THE REST OF THE SUMMER.
IF WE'RE NOT, THEN YOU'RE AT THE POINT OF SAYING, OKAY, ARE WE GONNA MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY IN BOTH WAYS BY THEN WE'LL HAVE THE GEOTECHNICAL YEAH, WE'LL KNOW IF THAT POTENTIAL PARTNER WILL NUMBER, NUMBER IS THERE, IS THERE A TIME BOMB UNDER THE GROUND OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
YOU'LL HAVE THAT AND BY THAT POINT POINT WE'LL HAVE MORE TIME TO KNOW IF POTENTIAL PARTNER, NUMBER ONE, IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL PARTNER, POTENTIAL PARTNER, NUMBER TWO, ANY OF THAT HANDS OUT AND WHAT KIND OF LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT IN ENGINEERING OR DESIGN WORK, EXCUSE ME.
THEY WOULD BECAUSE YEAH, BECAUSE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, THE ONE PRIVATE PARTNER, THE, THE PROCESS OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IS ONE PATH.
THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PATH TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.
SO, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION OR NOT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, SO TO SOME EXTENT WE ARE DOING THAT.
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE FIRST PHASES OF DESIGN, JUST NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF AN OVERALL MAJOR DESIGN CONTRACT.
YOU SAID YOU'RE HAVING A MEETING THIS AFTERNOON.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT AFTER THAT MEETING THERE'LL BE SOMETHING YOU CAN SHARE WITH US FOR US TO KIND OF ABSORB SOME MORE INFORMATION? YEAH, SO HE HAS PROVIDED A DRAFT LETTER OF INTENT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS.
I THINK I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS, MAYBE ADD A FEW THINGS AND THEN UH, I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AND THEN I ASSUME HE'LL GO BACK, REVISE
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SEND IT AND THEN I WOULD SHARE THAT WITH YOU.AND THEN IF YOU'RE ALL OKAY SCHEDULE TO ATTEND THE UH, APRIL 18TH BRIEFING.
I HAVE THE NO MORE PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF THAT.
AND AGAIN, ON PAGE ONE 16 AND THE NOTE SECTION THERE IS JUST, UM, WHAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDED KIND OF SEQUENCE OF FUNDING THINGS IF WE WERE DOING IT ALL OURSELVES.
UM, AND I HAD A QUESTION OF I'M SHOWING 17,000,009 50, THAT'S A HIGH NUMBER AND MY ANSWER TO THAT IS WE WERE SHOWING YOU I THINK 16 MILLION IN JANUARY.
PARKS, OFFICE ROAD, EVERYTHING.
WE WERE SHOWING YOU 16 MILLION IN JANUARY WITHOUT ANY DESIGN.
I'M JUST A COUPLE YEARS DELAYED CONSTRUCTION.
SO I'M JUST BEING CONSERVATIVE IN THAT ESTIMATE.
WE'LL, UH, WE'LL OBVIOUSLY, HOPEFULLY BRING THAT NUMBER DOWN.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT BRIAN RICHTER'S PROPOSAL DID HAVE A FULL CONTINGENCY IN THERE AND FOR THE RECORD FACILITY AND HE HAS DONE RECORD FACILITIES AND OTHER TYPES OF MUNICIPAL BUILDS ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AND HE'S NEVER GONE OVER BUDGET.
SO HIS CONTINGENCY I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE IN AND TO PUT A $2 MILLION CONTINGENCY ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE OVERKILL TO ME.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, PULL OUT THE RACKET FACILITY EXPENSE ON ITS OWN AND NOT MARRY IT WITH OTHER EXPENSES THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO IT.
NO, I THOUGHT BRIAN RICHTER WAS AN ARCHITECT.
IS HE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR? NO.
YEAH, SO I MEAN AN ARCHITECT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE THAT ENTIRELY MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF SAYING THAT AN ARCHITECT NEVER WENT OVER BUDGET BECAUSE I THINK A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, NO, I THINK HE WAS RESPONSIBILITY.
I WAS AT THAT MEETING WHEN HE WAS REFERRING TO HE, WHEN HE ESTIMATES WHAT THE COST WILL BE FOR A CITY HE BUILDS IN ALL THAT.
IN BRIAN'S DEFENSE, THOSE ESTIMATES ON PRIOR PROJECTS WOULD'VE BEEN AFTER FULL DESIGN, NOT AT THE LEVEL OF DESIGN OR AT TODAY, NOT AT THE LEVEL OF DESIGN WHERE HE WOULD PUT A NUMBER THAT HE WOULD PUT HIS NAME.
I MEAN, THERE'S A NUMBER IN THERE.
THERE'S NO QUESTION I, I THINK, BUT WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT WITH ONE PRIVATE PARTNER MAKING A BIGGER BUILDING.
SO THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT'S NOT IN THIS NUMBER.
SO THAT'S WHY I'VE GOT AN EXTRA MONEY IN HERE.
SO I THINK, I THINK WE ARE VERY LUCKY THAT WE DO HAVE WILLIAMSON COUNTY TENNIS FACILITY RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE A HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM A MAJOR AIR CONDITIONING GOING OUT AND YOU KNOW, GORDON SAYS HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S JUST WHY WE ARE KIND OF STIMULATING THIS AND MOVING ON.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THINGS ARE AT PEACE 'CAUSE PEOPLE HAVE PLACES TO PLAY.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THAT MARYLAND FARMS FACILITY, THEN YOU'RE GONNA REALLY GET PHONE CALLS.
SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S GOOD KIRK, THAT YOU'VE STARTED THIS AND MOVING DOWN THAT PATH.
UM, ONE 17 DEERWOOD, KIND OF BACK TO YOU, DAVE.
MAINTENANCE ITEMS. UM, THIS YEAR WE'LL DO, UM, THE, THE PAVILION THERE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF ROOF REPAIRS DONE.
AND THEN, UH, PARTS OF THE TRAIL TOUCHED UP THE CARS.
UH, SOME COLD WEATHER KIND OF MAKES POTHOLE LOT.
UM, ONE 19 FLAG POLE WCO, UH, WE PA THE ENTRANCE ROAD TO FLAG POLE, FLAG POLE PARK AND THEN BOTH RESTROOM BUILD, UH, BUILDINGS WILL BE PAINTED 1 21 GRANNY WHITE CAR.
UH, WE DO SOME WALKING TRAIL REPAIRS.
UH, CONVERSION OF THE TRAIL LIGHTS, THE LED UH, BASKETBALL COURT RESURFACING AND NEW BASKETBALL, UH, BACKBOARDS MOVING ON.
UH, THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, UH, ENTRANCE ROAD FENCE, UH, REPAIR AND PAINTING, UH, GUARDRAIL, UH, AND BRIDGE RAIL PAINTING.
JAY COMMISSIONERS FOR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
RECALL THAT ONE OF UH, CHARLES'S NON-ROUTINE WORK ITEMS WAS TO COME UP WITH A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN, WHICH HE HAS DONE.
AND AS PART OF THAT, HE'S BEEN ON SITE WITH CONTRACTORS AND WITH JIM THOMPSON, EXCUSE ME, CENTRIC ARCHITECTURE.
TAKING A LOOK AT THE FACILITY AND SEEING WHAT THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE NEEDS ARE.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THEY IDENTIFIED, WHICH WE'RE GONNA TRY AND KNOCK OUT THIS YEAR WITH THE FUNDS THAT YOU HAD PUT IN FOR PORCH STABILIZATION IS ACTUALLY CHIMNEY STABILIZATION.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, IT'S THE CHIMNEY AND THE PARLOR TO THE RIGHT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE STABILIZED.
UM, THEY CAN SEE THAT THE, THE FOUNDATION HAS COMPROMISED A BIT SO THEY'LL EXCAVATE OUT.
THEY'VE GOT A TIME FOR WHEN WE'VE GOT A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY IN BETWEEN EVENTS.
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UM, THE PORCH RAILING IS STILL KIND OF A QUESTION THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ENGAGE THE HISTORIC COMMISSION ON.YOU KNOW, THE FRONT PORCH RAILING IS, HAS BEEN DETERIORATING AND WE KNOW THE PORCH ITSELF IS SETTLING, WHICH IS WHERE YOU PUT THE STABILIZATION MONEY IN.
WE'RE HOPING WE CAN DO THE PORCH RAILING THIS YEAR, BUT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT COST IS YET BECAUSE WE NEED INPUT FROM THE HISTORIC COMMISSION ON WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH IT.
IT'S COVERED IN PAINT, LIKE 15, LITERALLY LIKE 15 LAYERS OF PAINT.
WE KNOW SOME OF WHICH IS OIL-BASED PAINT.
THAT, THAT POSES A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM WITH REGARD TO WHAT YOU DO WITH IT.
POTENTIALLY WE COULD REPLACE IT.
I THINK IT LOOKS IDENTICAL TO IT, BUT THE STORE COMMISSION REALLY NEEDS TO, TO WEIGH IN ON THAT, ON WHAT WE DO WITH IT.
UM, AS FAR AS THE PORCH STABILIZATION GOES AND TALKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND TRYING TO FIND THAT, THE WINDOW OF, OF OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT WORK DONE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE EVENTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR.
WE DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING CRITICAL IS GONNA HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.
UM, IT'S NOT GONNA DETERIORATE AND, AND AND, YOU KNOW, FALL IN OR ANYTHING OR, OR CREATE ANY MORE DAMAGE.
BUT JANUARY OF, OF, UH, NEXT YEAR IS WHEN WE WOULD TARGET FOR THAT AND THAT'S ABOUT $85,000.
SO YOU SEE THAT MOVING MONEY MOVING FORWARD AND AS ALWAYS ABOUT $45,000 FOR OTHER REPAIRS THAT WE FIND DURING THE YEAR.
IS THAT ONLY FOR THE MANSION OR IS THAT FOR ALL THE PROPERTY? ALL THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS ON THIS IS JUST RAVENSWOOD.
I'M HISTORIC BUILDINGS ON IN SMITH PARK.
IS THAT FOR THE MANSION ONLY OR FOR SLAVE CABIN? IF YOU HAD SLAVE CABINS OR THE OUT BUILDING OR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
THAT'S ALL I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON.
IN THE MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAIL OPENING ON THE 29TH.
I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM ALL OF YOU WHETHER I'VE HEARD BACK FROM SEVERAL OF YOU WHETHER THAT DATE WORKS.
UM, I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO WITH THAT.
UH, JUST GOT SOME MINOR, MINOR TRAIL REPAIRS TO DO THIS YEAR.
WE'LL START SOME DRAINAGE, UH, OF WORK THAT WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT NEXT YEAR.
THEN THERE'S A SECTION OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT, UH, IS OKAY RIGHT NOW, BUT GONNA NEED TO BE REPLACED WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE THAT PART ANYMORE.
UM, WE'RE GONNA DO THE TRAILS AT TOWER PARK, BUT THEN WE'RE GONNA PUT THE WATER TANK IN.
IS THAT WHEN YOU SAY TRAILS AT TOWER PARK? UM, I'M AT OWL CREEK PARK RIGHT NOW.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE SOME TRAILS THAT NO, YEAH, NO.
TOWER PARK DOESN'T HAVE ANY TRAILS.
PATRIOT PARK, WE FINISHED UP, UH, THE, THE WALL REPAIRS THIS YEAR.
WE JUST HAVE SOME MISCELLANEOUS REPAIRS AS NEEDED.
I GUESS THAT'S A PLACEHOLDER MAYBE.
UM, BASICALLY WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, I CALL 'EM MONKEY BARS AND THEN WE'VE GOT A BALANCE BEAM AND STUFF THAT WE'LL PROBABLY TAKE OUT AND TRY TO EXPAND THE ACTUAL BIG MODULAR UNIT ON.
KIND OF UPDATE THE PLAYGROUND OVER THERE A LITTLE BIT AND THEN, UH, DO AN OVERLAY, UH, TO THE INTERNAL TRAILS.
IT'S BEEN, UM, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE EVER BEEN OVERLAID SINCE IN LIKE 20 YEARS.
UH, WE'VE GOT A SMALL SHED OVER THERE THAT'S NEEDING SOME ROOF REPAIR.
AND THEN FINALLY ON 1 37, UH, HEY DAVE, LET'S STAY ON TOWER REAL QUICK.
ON 1 35 YOU'LL SEE $125,000 OUT THERE IN 2027.
WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH RELATIVE TO DOG PARK MODIFICATIONS AS A RESULT OF CHRIS'S TOWER, YOU'LL SEE A HUNDRED THOUSAND THERE IS FROM THE WATER SEWER FUND, WE FIGURE CHRIS NEEDS TO PAY FOR RELOCATION, NEW RELOCATION OR MODIFICATIONS OF THE DOG PARK.
SO JUST POINTING THAT OUT AFTER THAT INTO YOUR OVERALL FIGURE.
IF YOU GOT A 22 MILLION PROJECT, YOU COULD FIGURE OUT A SOMETHING FOR YOUR DOGS.
IS ALL CRATES, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
WE JUST TALK ABOUT THAT AIR CONDITION MEETING.
WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO PAGE 1 42 IF THAT'S OKAY.
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UH, WE HAVE THE SERVICE CENTER BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, UH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 AND CONTINUING INTO 25.WE HAVE FUNDS INCLUDED FOR ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION OF SEVERAL SERVICE CENTER SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
FIRST RELOCATING THE MATERIAL STORAGE BINS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE THE UPPER LEFT SLIDE.
UM, THESE BINS HAVE, UH, REALLY BADLY DETERIORATED.
WE'RE GONNA RELOCATE THESE BINS TO A MORE CENTRAL LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT FOR ALL.
AND THEN WE INTEND TO COVER THAT SPACE WITH DRY EQUIPMENT STORAGE.
SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE BOTTOM SLIDE THAT PUBLIC WORKS CURRENTLY DOES ON THE SOUTH END.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ENCLOSED HEATED IN CLEAN SPACE FOR SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT.
SO THIS GIVES US BY ADDING THAT A PLACE TO AT LEAST WE CAN BACK IN EQUIPMENT, KEEP IT OUTTA THE WEATHER.
AND THEN LASTLY, MAKING IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BACK OF THE, OF THE SHOP AREA NEAR THE GAS AND FUEL PUMPS.
UH, ON THE LEFT THERE IS TRAFFIC AND MARTIN'S STORAGE AREA.
ON THE RIGHT IS OUR PUMP FRONT, MOSTLY GRINDER WORK.
WE'D LIKE TO EXPAND THAT, THAT SHOP AREA.
SO WE'VE WORKED OUT A SWAP DEAL WITH PUBLIC WORKS, I THINK WORKS OUT FOR BOTH OF US.
WE WE'RE GONNA EXPAND OUR PUMP SHOP INTO THE TRAFFIC SPACE.
TRAFFIC'S GONNA MOVE TO THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY AND OCCUPY A, A SMALL BUILDING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BEEN USING FOR METER STORAGE ESSENTIALLY.
SO I THINK THAT WORKS OUT AND KIND OF CENTRALLY LOCATES THE OPERATIONS FOR EVERYBODY.
MAKES US A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT.
SO FOR FISCAL 24 AND 25, IT'S A $550,000.
OUR FUNDS HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED IN FOR 550,000.
UH, MOVING ON TO PAGE 1 44, UM, PROJECT THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, YOU SAID, UH, SORRY, ON 1 42 YOU SAID FIVE 50 OR FIVE 15.
FIVE 50 TOTAL IN ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION IT SAYS FIVE 15.
IT'S FIVE 15 FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.
AND THEN IF YOU ADD IN 24 EXPENSES, YOU ADD IN 35,000.
IT'S ACTUALLY FIVE 60, BUT YEAH, IT'S NOT ADDING ACROSS.
I THINK SO THE 24 NUMBERS IN THAT COLUMN, THEY DON'T ADD TO THE TOTAL.
24, NOT INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL.
PAGE 1 44 AGAIN, UH, FRANKLIN ROAD SOUTH GRINDER PROJECT, UH, YEARS AGO WE HAD A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS HERE, UH, PETITION TO GET ON CITY SEWER.
UH, THIS IS VIA GRINDER EXTENSION PROJECT WAITING FOR TDOT TO FINALLY FINISH UP THE ROADWORK SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
UM, WE ARE NOW CURRENTLY SEVERAL OF THESE HOMEOWNERS HAVE CHANGED HANDS.
UH, WE ARE RESURVEY THESE, UH, ALL THE HOUSEHOLDS AGAIN TO SEE ABOUT GETTING WHAT LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION WE'LL RECEIVE AND HOPEFULLY MAJORITY, IF WE GET MAJORITY PARTICIPATION, WHICH COLD REQUIRES, THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
THEY JUST TORE A HOUSE COMPLETELY DOWN ALONG THERE.
UH, WHICH ONE IT WAS ON? YEAH, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHICH LOT EAST.
ONE DAY IT WAS THERE AND THE NEXT DAY IT WAS GONE.
SO THERE'S 13 TOTAL RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLDS AND WE DON'T, WE TRADITIONALLY HAVE NOT APPLIED THE GRINDER PROJECTS TO COMMERCIAL OR BUSINESSES.
SO THERE'S 13 RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLDS ON SEPTIC SYSTEMS. UM, ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE PAST THE TBA LINE KIND OF SPLITS THE CENTER UNDER THE TDI PROJECT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET TEED OUT TO FUND THE GREEN PORTION.
SO THAT REDUCED OUR COST PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, AND THEN WE WILL PUT IN ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE SOUTHERN END, WHICH IS AGAIN, UH, TOTAL FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT.
24TH THROUGH 26 FISCAL YEAR 24, 26, PROJECTED AT $640,000.
AND THEN THAT'S OFFSET A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 50,000 YOU ANTICIPATE OR WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR THOSE RESIDENTS TO PAY THE WAY OF TAP FEES FOR THE PROJECT THAT YOU ALL APPROVED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO FOR A DISCOUNTED SUPER TAP FEE.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO TALK TO THE RESIDENTS.
THEY HAVE SURVEYS IN THEIR HANDS.
WE'LL BE WAITING TO GET ALL THOSE BACK, CHECK
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THEIR BOXES, WHETHER THEY WANNA BE PARTICIPANTS OR NOT.AND THEN WE'LL KEEP MOVING TO PAGE 1 46.
UH, MISCELLANEOUS SEWER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS.
A NUMBER OF SMALLER PROJECTS HERE.
UM, FUNDING IN 24 AND CONTINUING INTO 25 INCLUDES 335,000 IN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THREE SMALLER SEWER EXTENSIONS THAT ARE PLANNED TO BE COMPLETED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RAGSDALE ROAD BINDING PROJECT.
UH, ON SLIDE HERE, RAGSDALE ROAD, THEY'RE, YEAH, DEPICTED THOSE THREE RED SECTIONS.
SO JUST AS PART OF THE ROAD WINDING PROJECT, WE WANTED TO GET SEWER TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.
A COUPLE REASONS IT'S CHEAPER TO DO IT IN OUR CONSTRUCTION AS OPPOSED TO AFTER THE ROAD WORKS DONE, YOU DON'T GO BACK IN, TEAR UP THE ROAD AND MAKE THESE EXTENSIONS.
BUT THEN ALSO, UH, IT GETS SEWER TO THAT SIDE AND MAKES IT AVAILABLE FOR MOST PROPERTY OWNERS OVER THERE, UH, IN PROXIMITY TO THEIR PROPERTIES, WHICH MOST OF 'EM HAVE APPROACHED US ABOUT GETTING ON SEWER AT SOME POINT.
SO WE'RE KIND OF JUST DOING THE, THE INITIAL EXTENSIONS THAT GETS SEWER TO MOST EVERY HOUSE, UH, ALONG THAT STRETCH.
UM, THAT'S SORT OF A MINIMAL COST, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT.
AND THEN ALSO FUNDED IN 24 AND 25, UH, ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION FOR UPGRADES AT MULTIPLE SEWER STATION SITES, UH, TO IMPROVE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS.
IT'S ACTUALLY WATER SITES TOO, BUT THIS SEWER'S FUNDED UNDER THIS PROJECT HERE.
UM, THIS GETS GENERATORS OR IT MAKES THE ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR FIXED GENERATORS OR ALLOWS US TO BRING IN PORTAL GENERATORS TO QUICKLY HOOK UP DEPENDING ON WHERE THOSE FACILITIES ARE, UM, FROM THE AREAS AND THE STATIONS ARE PRIORITIZED BY A RISK ASSESSMENT.
WE DID A FEW YEARS BACK WITH EPA, UM, JUST TO HELP IMPROVE, UM, SYSTEM RELIABILITY AND SHORTER DOWNTIME FOR, FOR, UM, CUSTOMER SERVICE.
AND THEN THIS PROJECT IS BEING FUNDED.
UH, TOTAL PROJECT WATER AND SEWER IS ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS.
UM, AND COUNTY ARC FUNDS WILL FUND ABOUT A MILLION OF THAT.
UM, UNDER THE SEWER PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, IT'S ABOUT 580,000 DURING THAT TIME FROM THE SEWER PORTION.
UM, AND THEN I'LL JUMP OVER TO PAGE CORNER.
IT'S MOORE'S LANE AND FRANKLIN ROAD BEHIND THE SONIC.
A LITTLE SEWER PUMP STATION BACK IN THERE.
AND THEN JUMPING OVER, UH, TO ONE PA TO PAGE 1 48.
JUST CONTINUING THAT DISCUSSION.
SAME THING FOR THE WATER STATIONS.
WE'RE FUNDING ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION FOR SAME THING.
UPGRADES FOR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, ADDING GENERATORS OR UPGRADING THE ELECTRICAL TO ALLOW US TO BRING IN PORTALS AND PLUG THEM IN.
UM, IT'LL OFFSET FUTURE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, UH, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHEN THE WAY WE DO THIS NOW WITHOUT THE GENERATORS AND SOME OF THE OLDER, UH, ELECTRICAL PLUGINS.
IF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN WE GET STORMS, UH, AND WE LOSE A, WE LOSE A PUMP STATION, OUR GUYS RUSH OUT, WE HAVE TO CALL THIRD PARTY, USUALLY A SUNBELT OR SOMEBODY BRING IN A GENERATOR HIRE ELECTRICIAN TO COME IN.
OBVIOUSLY THAT DELAYS DOWNTIME.
UH, THESE UPGRADES WILL ALLOW OUR GUYS FOR OBVIOUSLY FIXED GENERATORS WILL JUST FIRE RIGHT UP PLUGINS, WHICH, AND THEY'RE PRIORITIZED BASED ON THE CRITICAL NATURE OF THE STATION PLUGINS WILL WILL JUST COME TO THE SHOP, GRAB A GENERATOR, RUN IT OUT THERE, AND THE GUYS CAN PLUG IT IN.
UH, THE PLUGINS ALLOW OUR GUYS TO DO THAT WITH TRAINING AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO HIRE A THIRD PARTY ELECTRICIAN.
SO THERE'S SAVINGS THERE AS WELL.
UH, AGAIN, OVERALL WATER AND SEWER ESTIMATED ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF.
COUNTY ART FUNDS ARE FUNDING RIGHT AT A BILLION OR JUST OVER A MILLION OF THAT.
TURNING TO PAGE, NO ONE 50 CERTAIN REHABILITATION.
ONGOING REHABILITATION FUNDS IN 24 AGAIN AND 25 CARRYING OVER INTO 25 INCLUDE THE NEXT, UH, CONSTRUCTION REHABILITATION PROJECT.
UH, WE PLAN TO ADVERTISE HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
IF YOU'LL RECALL, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE PUT A REHABILITATION PROJECT OUT THERE AROUND A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AND DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY BIDS.
WE TOOK ALL THAT WORK AND THEN WE JUST ADDED TO IT.
UH, WE'RE HOPING TO PUT THIS OUT FOR ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, UH, TAKING BIDS PROBABLY IN MAY AT SOME POINT FOR THE REHAB FOR THE NEXT
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REHAB PROJECT.YOU CAN SEE I, I GOT AN UPDATED BRENTWOOD WATER SEWER SYSTEM PICTURE THIS TIME.
WE WERE, FOR YEARS, WE WERE USING AN OLD
UM, BUT WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT IS A SEWER PIPE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY RIGHT OFF GRANNY WHITE, UH, AT BELL REEF, RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
THAT, UH, PIPE WHERE IT'S PULLED APART AND DURING A STORM YOU CAN SEE THE INFILTRATION ONGOING.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WORK THAT THIS PROJECT WILL TAKE CARE OF.
UH, CONTINUING ON TO PAGE 1 52.
OBVIOUSLY THE BIG PROJECT THAT AFFECTS OUR BUDGET ON 6 MILLION, ROUGHLY HALF OF OUR OVERALL CIP FOR FIVE YEARS WORKING 24.
UH, WE'LL CLOSE OUT HOPEFULLY, UM, THE FIRST EQ FACILITY, ABOUT 675,000 THERE, UM, TO CLOSE THAT PROJECT OUT.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'LL GET STARTED AND HAVE STARTED ON THE SECOND EQ TOWER PARK PROJECT.
AND I JUST THREW IN SOME PICTURES ON, I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THESE OF SOME EXAMPLE TANKS, ONE BURIED IN A CITY ON THE LEFT, AND THEN JUST ANOTHER STORAGE FACILITY THAT'S BEEN PAINTED AND DRESSED UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO Y'ALL HAD ANY WITH THE FIRST ONE AND YOU KIND OF UNEXPECTED CHALLENGES OR PROBLEMS? I MEAN, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS SUPPLY ISSUES.
I MEAN, HERE WE ARE OVER A YEAR PAST WHEN WE PUT IT IN OPERATION AND WE'RE STILL PUTTING IN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL GETTING ELECTRONICS IN AND CONTROLS FOR THE AUTOMATION PART OF IT.
SO I MEAN, THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE.
UM, THE PROJECT MEETING ON TUESDAY AND THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF BREAKERS AND SMALL LITTLE PHOTO CELLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT'S STILL COMING IN THAT'S BEEN ORDERED YEARS AGO.
SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE.
UM, SO THE, THE CURRENT ONE'S UP AND RUNNING RIGHT NOW, IT'S, AND I, I'VE HEARD A COUPLE DIFFERENT TIMES THAT SINCE IT'S BEEN UP AND RUNNING, WE HAVEN'T REALLY EXPERIENCED ANY COLD FLOW TO SPEAK OF, BUT WE ALSO HAVEN'T HAD THE STORM INTENSITY THAT WE HAD BACK IN.
WELL, WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD STORMS. WE, WE PUT IT IN OPERATION IN JANUARY OF 23.
UH, SO IT'S BEEN AN OPERATION OVER A YEAR AND SINCE WE WENT INTO OPERATION, UH, NOT HAD AN OVERFLOW, UM, SINCE THAT TIME.
NOW HOW MANY TIMES IT'S FILLED? I, I CAN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
IT'S BEEN THREE OR FOUR DURING MAY.
SOMETHING LIKE THREE OR FOUR TIMES WHERE IT'S FILLED AT SOME LEVEL.
I DON'T THINK TO DATE IT'S FILLED ALL THE WAY.
I THINK THE MOST WE'VE HAD IT FILLED IS 60, 70%, MAYBE HALF, HALF FULLY FILLED IT.
UM, THE REASON I ASK IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WASN'T SURE, UH, SINCE WE'VE PULLED THE SECOND TANK FORWARD SO FAR, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES ANY IMPACT ON THE, THE DESIGN OR ANYTHING ELSE HAVING THIS ONE IN OPERATION, YOU KNOW, OR NO, THEY, THEY CERTAINLY WORK TOGETHER.
UM, THE TANK AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE UPPER OR THE MID TRUNK PORTION OF THE SYSTEM IS, AND IT'S SIZING, IT IS TOTALLY BASED ON FULL BUILD OUT OF THE SEWER SYSTEM BASED ON WHAT MR. PLAN PROJECTIONS MM-HMM.
DURING THAT TWO YEAR STORM EVENTS, IT'S MM-HMM.
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE CONTINUE TO, AND WE'LL CONTINUE RIGHT UP TO THE POINT OF WHEN WE BREAK GROUND, UH, FOCUS ON SIZING THAT TANK APPROPRIATELY, BUT IT'S STILL GONNA BE PROBABLY IN THAT SEVEN, 8 MILLION RANGE AGAIN FOR FULL BUILD OUT OF THE SYSTEM.
AND ACCOMMODATE THAT FULL BUILD OUT.
AND IS THERE AN ADVANTAGE TO BUILDING IT OUT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER IF THE CITY ISN'T FULLY BUILT OUT YET? UM, OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN THE EASIEST ANSWER IS IT WILL ACCOMMODATE MUCH BIGGER STORMS IN A TWO YEAR STORM AND PREVENT THOSE OVERFLOWS FROM OCCURRING.
FOR WHATEVER GROWTH PROJECTIONS IT OFFSETS.
BUT BY HAVING IT THERE AND NOT BEING FULLY BUILT OUT, IT WILL ACCOMMODATE A MUCH BIGGER STORM.
SO YOU WILL OBVIOUSLY REDUCE OVERFLOWS AND THAT'S SPILL INTO THE RIVER FOR THOSE BIGGER STORM EVENTS.
AND THEN AS GROWTH CONTINUES AND IT CONTINUES TO BUILD OUT, THAT BIGGER STORM OBVIOUSLY WILL GET SLOWLY REDUCED TO WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR THE TWO YEAR STORM AND FULL BUILD OUT.
SO, SO IT'S A MATTER OF, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS ABOUT PUSHING IT FORWARD.
SO WE CAN DO JUST THAT AND THAT'S THE GOAL AND OBJECTIVE.
SO, AND THEORY CONSTRUCTION COSTS PROBABLY AREN'T GONNA GET CHEAPER AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS AREN'T GONNA BE CHEAPER FOR SURE.
SEEMS TO BE THE REALITY, ALTHOUGH INTEREST RATES MAY COME DOWN, HARD TO SAY.
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UH, SIR, LIFT STATION REHABILITATION.UM, RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE THE ONE PROJECT, IT'S THE SCALES STARTING WITH ABANDONMENT PUMP STATION ON FISHER COURT IN THE UPPER PART, THE SCREEN THERE.
UM, AND THEN RUNNING A SEWER LINE ACROSS, ACTUALLY THAT SEWER LINE GOES A LITTLE FURTHER OUT TO THE CLOSER TO MURRAY LANE, BUT ANYWAY, LAYING A NEW GRAVITY LINE OUT TO CLOSE TO MURRAY LANE AND RE DIVERTING THAT FLOW FROM ARDEN WOODS OVER TO THE SCALES PUMP STATION AND OF COURSE UP UPSIZING THE SCALE STATION TO ACCOMMODATE THAT FLOW.
JUST TO GET RID OF THAT, THAT THAT FISHER COURT DENWOOD STATION AND IT HAS TO COME FROM FISHER COURT THROUGH THAT EASEMENT.
AND THOSE FOLKS THERE KNOW THAT THAT OKAY, GREAT.
YEAH, WE'VE TALKED TO BOTH THOSE PEOPLE.
I'M NOT REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY UNDERSTAND AND, UM, AND WE, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AS WELL, WE OBTAINED THESE EASEMENTS FROM THEM AND THAT PROJECT ACTUALLY BIDS TODAY AT, IN AN HOUR TWO O'CLOCK.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME GOOD BIDS ON IT AND BE ABLE TO BRING IN CONSTRUCTION RECOMMENDATION FOR A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR NEXT MONTH OR SO.
WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT'LL BE DONE? UM, WE HAVE IT FINISHING UP AND FI BY THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 25.
SO NEXT SPRING IF WE GET STARTED PRETTY QUICKLY AND, OKAY.
WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH SCHOOL AS BEST WE CAN AND COORDINATE THE WORK BEST WE CAN TO BE ON THE PROPERTY DURING THE SUMMER OF SCHOOL IF WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK.
SO A PICTURE PRIOR TO SKILLS RENOVATION, DO YOU KNOW THAT? YEAH, THAT IS PROBABLY, YEAH.
UH, WATER SYSTEM MANUAL PIPE REPLACEMENT.
UH, THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WATERLINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
I, I COMPARE IT TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH PAVING.
IT'S THE SAME, WE JUST REPLACED OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD PIPING.
UH, WE'RE IN CARON A RIGHT NOW, UH, FISCAL YEAR 24 25.
WE ARE FUNDING ABOUT THREE POINT MILLION FOR THE CARON LAY PROJECT.
UM, CURRENTLY JUST TO GIVE A PROJECT UPDATE.
THE PHASE ONE, THE RED PORTION OF CARON DELAY IS BEING COMPLETED AS WE SPEAK, UH, WHICH IS PHASE ONE, LIKE I SAID.
AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR WILL THEN MOVE INTO PHASE TWO AND START THAT WORK.
PHASE ONE HAS TO BE DONE TESTED, IS COMPLETELY IN SERVICE.
UH, TODD'S COMING IN BEHIND US TO PAY MOST OF IT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE OUT INTO PHASE TWO AND START THAT.
UM, IT'S CURRENTLY SCHEDULED ALL THAT WORK THROUGH SPRING OF 2025, SO ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.
UM, AND THEN FUNDING STARTING IN ABOUT 8 MILLION, STARTING IN 26 THROUGH 29.
AND CONTINUING THROUGH 29 IS THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT, WHICH WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY TARGETING RIVER RIVER ROAD SUBDIVISION FOR THAT PROJECT.
AGAIN STARTING IN ABOUT 26, 27 PAGE 1 58 WATER SYSTEM CAPACITIES PROJECTS, UH, UH, FUNDING IN 24 THROUGH 26 OF ABOUT 2.6 MILLION INCLUDED FOR ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION OF THE 12 INCH WATER LINE ALONG RAGSDALE ROAD, UPPER RIGHT UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROAD WORK, BE INSTALLING A 12 INCH WATER LOT ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE WATER IN THAT AREA.
IT'S CURRENTLY THE HOUSES THAT ARE THERE ARE CURRENTLY SERVED BY THE NOLANSVILLE UTILITY DISTRICT BACK IN 2007, UH, NOLANSVILLE CAME TO US AND NEGOTIATED THAT THAT AREA TRANSFERRED TO OUR SERVICE DISTRICT AND WE TAKE THOSE CUSTOMERS OVER WHEN WE BUILD THIS PROJECT.
SO, UH, ALSO BEGINNING IN 24 AND CONTINUING THROUGH 25 2 0.3 MILLION IN FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE WILSON PIKE WATERLINE UPGRADES.
UH, THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT 3,200 FEET OF 16 INCH WATER PIPE BETWEEN TWIN SPRINGS AND CROCKETT ROAD.
HOPE TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION BY FALL.
AND THEN I DO WANNA MENTION, I THINK I FORGOT EARLIER, ELLENDALE AND BOONE TRAIL UP IN THAT AREA.
WE HAD A SMALL WATER LINE PROJECT, UH, THAT WE HAD BID LAST FALL AND RECEIVED VERY HIGH BIDS.
WE REJECTED THE BIDS, WE TOOK THOSE SMALL LITTLE WATER LINE PROJECTS AND WE'RE PACKAGING 'EM UP WITH THIS WILSON PIKE JOB, HOPEFULLY TO GET BETTER BIDS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THEN BEGINNING IN 27 THROUGH 29, FUNDS ARE INCLUDED AGAIN ON WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE
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ALAMO DRIVE AREA, UH, 12 INCH WATER LINE, UH, THAT EXTENDS FROM AROUND WESTGATE AND I 65 OVER TO THE PRINT FARMS AREA TO COMPLETE THAT 12 INCH ALL THE WAY ACROSS THERE.PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT, A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH THAT.
TRYING TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B THERE A LOT OF PROPERTIES TO CROSS.
SO WE'LL START THAT, LIKE I SAID, AROUND TWO 20.
AND THEN I THINK LASTLY, PAGE ONE 60, ANOTHER SLIDE THOUGH.
UM, JUST FINISHING UP SOME WATER TANK IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, ADDING SOME UDE VALVES, LEVEL VALVES, UH, HELPING WITH SYSTEM AUTOMATION, ADDING THOSE VALVES THAT CARRY CHILLS AND CHANNEL WITH WATER TANK.
AND THEN IN FISCAL YEAR 26, WE HAVE AN ABANDONED RAIN TREE WATER TANK.
UH, IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND HA WE HATE TO TEAR TANKS DOWN 'CAUSE YOU CAN TAKE TANKS DOWN AND MOVE THEM AROUND.
AND, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN WOODWAY AND WAITED A FEW YEARS AFTER WE PUT THAT TANK OUT OF SERVICE IN FISCAL YEAR 26, WE'RE FUNDING ABOUT 90,000 TO REMOVE THAT TANK AND TURN THAT BACK OVER.
SO 26 WHAT UH, REAL QUICK, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE WATER MAIN BREAK
YEAH, WE, WE HAD TWO OF THEM OVER IN THAT AREA THIS LAST WEEK.
FIVE PIPE FOR IT WHEN THEY DO THAT AND THEY DIDN'T ON THE BELL REEF CASE 'CAUSE WE WERE MORE THAN TWO FEET OFF THE LOCATE LOCATED.
THEY HIT SEWER OVER THERE, SUE, THEY HAD A SEWER ON IT.
NOT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THEM OVER THERE.
ONE OF 'EM THEY DID THE COMPANY I KNOW ONE THEY DIDN'T, WE WERE OFF TWO FEET.
STATE LAW SAYS IF YOU'RE OFF MORE THAN TWO FEET ON YOUR LOCATE, THEY'RE NOT HELD LIABLE.
A LOT OF THE OLDER STUFF, UH, ESPECIALLY ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE AND LOCATES IS A LOT OF THE OLD BRENTWOOD STUFF IS PLASTIC AND WAS NOT PUT IN WITH ANY KIND OF LOCATOR TAPE.
AND SO WE SEND OUR GUYS OUT AND DO IN TERMS OF JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST GUESS WE CAN AT WHERE THAT IS BASED ON THE PLANS WE HAVE BASED ON VALVES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE TWO FEET STATE SAYS YOU CAN'T BE ALIVE.
THAT'S IT FOR THE, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I THINK JAY ALREADY PASSED OUT THE TRANSFER LIST TO YOU ALL.
WE GOT RIGHT ABOUT THREE HOURS.
THOUGHT WE MAYBE WOULD BE A LITTLE QUICKER, BUT A GOOD CONVERSATION.
SO WE HAVE THIS OUT ON THE WEBSITE.
UH, YOU'LL HAVE SOME PUBLIC HEARINGS IN MAY, UH, FIRST LAST MEETING IN MAY AND THEN THE TWO MEETINGS IN JUNE.
YOU'LL HAVE SOME CONTRACTS RELATED TO THIS COMING BEFORE YOU BEFORE THAT AS WE DISCUSS.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO, I KNOW WHO PUT THE BOOKLET TOGETHER BECAUSE THE PICTURES BETWEEN THE, THAT WAS JAY.
VARIOUS SEGMENTS WERE VERY NICE, VERY, VERY ARTISTIC.
SO YOUR BUDGET, WHEN YOU GET IT IN A FEW WEEKS WILL BE A SIMILAR FORMAT.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN PORTRAIT, BUT IT'LL BE A SIMILAR LOOK AT LAYOUT.