[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing March 21, 2024 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the March 25th Agenda, the below items will be discussed: Update on changes to Community Clean-up events Discussion of non-profit funding requests This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
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LIVE SCHOOLS.I HAVE A FAIRLY BRIEF AGENDA, BUT A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS TO DISCUSS, UH, BEYOND JUST THE AGENDA MEETING ON MONDAY.
WE HAVE NO ECD, WE HAVE NO BEER BOARD, NO SWEARING INS.
UM, ITEMS ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA INCLUDE FIRST A, UH, AN AGREEMENT WITH PAIN CONNECTIONS, LLC, UH, TO PURCHASE FIBER REDETERMINATION SERVICES.
UM, PROCESS OF ACTUALLY ADDING CONNECTORS TO THE END OF FIBER IS A VERY TECHNICAL PROCESS, AND REDETERMINATION IS, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO OUTSOURCE TO OTHERS WHO HAVE EXPERTISE.
AND, UH, SARAH IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE.
BUT ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE PROPOSED AGREEMENT WITH KANE FOR $39,013 THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, UM, FOR THEM TO DO DETERMINATION SERVICES AND WORKING ON FIBER WITHIN BUILDINGS, UH, AND CITY FACILITIES.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND JUST AN OBSERVATION THAT I, YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT PROCESS.
AND, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THE FIBER CONNECTIONS YOU TEND TO KEEP FOR A LONG TIME AND SQUIRREL, THE FIBER PROBLEMS ARE REALLY TOUGH.
SO GETTING IT DONE RIGHT IS, IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SPLICING AND REDETERMINATION ARE VERY TECHNICAL PROCESSES THAT YOU, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO THE SECOND ITEM, IT'S ALSO WITH, UH, CANE COMMUNICATIONS.
UM, AND THIS IS TO UTILIZE THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH KANE WHERE THEY HAVE EXTENDED FIBER UP TO, UH, ROBERT E. LEE, UH, AND, UH, TO OUR FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE UP THERE FOR THE WATER SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
THEY'RE LIKE, THEY ARE ASKING TO, UM, HAVE A CHANGE ORDER OR WE CAN ACTUALLY RUN FIBER TO OUR OTHER WATER TANKS TO OTHER FACILITIES, INCLUDING A MORTGAGE LANE, SEWER PUMP STATION, UH, THE SKYLINE WATER TANK, SPLIT LOG WATER TANK, AND ORANGE ORDER, UH, SEWER PUMP STATION.
UH, A PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER WOULD NOT EXCEED $196,341, INCLUDING A 10% INTENTION.
BUT THIS COMPANY, UH, APPEARS TO DO GOOD WORK AT A GOOD PRICE.
EVERYTHING WAS COMPETITIVELY PROCURED FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE PROJECT.
THIS CHANGE ORDER WOULD ALLOW THEM TO USE THEM ON OTHER AREAS AS WELL.
CHRIS IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
IS THIS ALWAYS PART OF THE PLAN TO DO THAT, TO ADD THESE, OR IS IT JUST YEAH.
I PUT MINE IN OUR CIP EVERY YEAR TO DO OVERALL NETWORK GETS CLOSE TO THE SATELLITE FACILITIES, THEN WE JUST GO AHEAD AND CONNECT.
SO I HAD MONEY IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO DO THESE.
SO JUST A NON-RELATED QUESTION, BUT BECAUSE WE MENTIONED FIBER IN HERE, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE PUTTING FIBER OVER THERE.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE OF, IS IS IT GONNA MOVE THROUGHOUT BRENTWOOD? BECAUSE I HEARD AT ONE POINT AT T WASN'T GONNA PUT IT IN.
NOW IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE THEY'RE DOING IT.
THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME THING I HEARD.
SO I, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR GAME PLAN A LITTLE BIT.
AND LET'S ADVANCE OUR SLIDES A LITTLE BIT HERE.
ITEM THREE, FOUR AND FIVE ARE ALL RELATED.
DEREK AND SARAH ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
BUT WE HAVE PROJECTS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO NEED ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION SERVICES.
AND THE TECHNIQUE THAT THEY'RE EMPLOYING IS KINDA LIKE A MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH INDIVIDUAL FIRMS AND WENT OUT AND ISSUED AN RFQ FOUND THREE VERY GOOD, WELL QUALIFIED FIRMS THAT THEY CAN THEN GO TO WITH TASK ORDERS, DEPENDING ON MAYBE HOW THAT ENGINEERING FIRM SPECIALIZES OR WHAT THEIR CURRENT WORKLOAD IS, THEY CAN ASSIGN THOSE TASK ORDERS OUT FOR VARIOUS PROJECTS.
PROJECTS WOULD INCLUDE, UH, MURRAY LANE AND HOLLAND STREET, CRAP ROUNDABOUT, WENDY HILL PARK, UH, THE RAGSDALE ROAD WIDENING.
UM, THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AGREEMENT.
IT WOULD BE WITH THE TASK ORDERS THAT WOULD BE ASSIGNED BY THE CITY MANAGER, BUT IT DOES GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO UTILIZE THESE THREE FIRMS FOR, UH, THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES.
LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING THAT, WELL, WE HAD A QUESTION ON THE HISTORIC COMMISSION ABOUT THE SECOND FLOOR OF BOWLING SPRING ACADEMY, THE FEASIBILITY OF USING IT MORE FREQUENTLY.
AND OF COURSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S STRUCTURALLY SAM, AND IN TALKING WITH CITY ENGINEERING, THEY RECOMMENDED, UM, WISELY A
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STRUCTURAL ENGINEER.WOULD NEIL SCHAFER BE A TYPE OF COMPANY THAT YOU COULD CALL ON IN AN INSTANCE? I MEAN, THE HISTORIC WOULD PAY FOR IT, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK NEIL IS, IS THAT PART OF WHAT THEY DO OR ARE THEY MORE JUST TYPICALLY NOT NEIL? THEY'RE MORE TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION RELATED.
RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
SO HOWEVER, THE OTHERS BUILDING BUILDINGS AND THINGS IN BARGE, MAYBE THEY MAY HAVE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS ON BOARD.
UH, CORINO GROUP IS NOT A COMPANY THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH.
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE STRUCTURAL.
WOULD YOU? THEY DON'T HAVE STRUCTURAL.
WOULD YOU COME FORWARD WHEN YOU SPEAK, PLEASE? I JUST WANTED TO BACK YOU UP.
NO, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE BOTH UP.
CORINO DOES NOT HAVE STRUCTURAL IN-HOUSE, BUT BARGE DOES.
SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD FIT IN THEIR SERVICES.
AND, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT WE'VE USED TO PART OF A SMALLER SHOP, SO WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO FARM THINGS OUT.
I, I'M NOT SURE THE BENEFIT OF THIS.
SO STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING IS NOT SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY, THAT IS TYPICALLY INVOLVED IN OUR PROJECTS, BUT FOR A SMALL PROJECT LIKE THAT, WE JUST GO AND FIND A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER AND ENGAGE THEM.
TYPICALLY, THAT'S BEEN SOMEBODY LIKE MICHAEL VINES.
UM, SO GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING BESIDE A, BESIDES A ROAD PROJECT THAT WE WOULD CALL 'EM THEM FOR.
SO THESE ARE COMMISSIONER DUNN, THESE, THESE, UH, ON-CALL CONTRACTS WITH THESE PARTICULAR CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
SO LIKE, UH, I'M NOT QUITE SURE BOWLING SPRINGS ACADEMY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
WHAT ELSE WOULD IT BE USEFUL FOR? BRIDGE EVALUATION.
SOMETIMES WE NEED THOSE IN A, IN A QUICK RESPONSE TIME.
SO HAVING THOSE ON ONCALL CONTRACTS ARE HANDY TO EXPEDITE CERTAIN SERVICES THAT BOTH ENGINEERING ON CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT THEY OVERSEE, OR POTENTIALLY WATER AND SEWER, MYSELF AND PUBLIC WORKS, WE HAVE SOMETHING COME UP THAT NEEDS A QUICK EVALUATION.
IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO AVOID BIDDING A, A SMALLER PROJECT OUT.
SO LIKE WHEN WE BUILT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WOULD THEY HAVE, HAD E EVER HAD ANY, UM, PARTICIPATION IN THAT PHONE CALL? COULD, COULD HAVE.
TYPICALLY A PROJECT THEY DID HAVE THAT.
TYPICALLY A PROJECT AS LARGE AS THAT, YOU'RE GONNA BID THAT OUT SEPARATELY.
AND NOT MAKING IT PART OF A, OF A, A TASK ORDER FROM A MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT.
BUT OTHER PROJECTS, WENDY HILL PARK, YOU'VE GOT INFRASTRUCTURE YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE GROUND IN WENDY HILL PARK.
THAT'S GOTTA BE INSPECTED BY ENGINEERS.
THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD USE THIS FOR.
SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU ALL THE FLEXIBILITY WHEN YOU'RE MID-PROJECT EVEN ON SOMETHING AND TO NOT SLOW YOU UP, YOU CAN JUST GRAB WHICHEVER ONE.
TYPICALLY, WE WOULD ASSIGN THAT TASK ORDER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT, BUT YOU KNOW THAT.
OR IF YOU NEED ANOTHER SET OF EYES ON IT.
NOW, IS THIS ON A RETAINER FEE OR IS IT PAY AS YOU GO? AS YOU CALL? IT'S PER TASK ORDER.
SO, SO THERE'S, AND AGAIN, THERE'S NO FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE AGREEMENTS.
JUST WILL ME ISSUE THE TASK ORDER.
THAT'S ITEMS THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE.
AGAIN, SUPPORT GROUP NEIL SHAER AND BARGE DESIGN SOLUTIONS.
WE'RE STARTING TO GET NEIGHBORS REACH OUT FROM, UM, HIGHLAND VIEW AND THE HOLLY TREE GAP ROUNDABOUT SITUATION ASKING ABOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR PROVIDING US SUCH GOOD WORK SO THAT WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
ON OLD BUSINESS, YOU HAVE FOR THE FINAL TIME, THE REZONING OF, OH MAN, THE PROPERTY ON, UH, WALLER ROAD, A THOUSAND FEET NORTH OF, UH, CONCORD COMMUNITY.
AND THERE ARE, UH, THREE LOTS PROPOSED WITH A, UH, DENSITY OF 0.38 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, SO FAR LESS THAN THE ONE UNIT PER ACRE REQUIRED BY R TWO.
UH, PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS AND APPROVED THIS.
WE'VE HAD OUR COMMUNITY MEETING, AND THIS IS YOUR SECOND FINAL READING.
SO THIS, UH, JUST A, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLAN SIGNED BY.
I WOULD IMAGINE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY IF A, UH, A DIFFERENT PLAN IF IT MAKES ITS WAY.
HEY, AGAIN, I'M, YOU LOOK ON THE SCREEN.
I CAN'T IMAGINE IT BEING FAR DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE SHOWN HERE.
WE'VE SEEN SOME PRETTY, UH, UH, AIR QUOTES, RIGHT.
UH, CREATIVE STUFF THROUGH THE YEARS.
AND THIS ITEM COMING BACK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS, UH, CHANGES TO THE POLICY MANUAL, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO PROVIDING LIBRARY CARDS TO RETIREES, UH, OR THOSE WHO HAVE OTHERWISE, UH, SERVED THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
RECALL, YOU HAD THE QUESTION, UH, OF WHETHER SOMETHING LESS THAN 20 YEARS WOULD
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BE APPROPRIATE.STAFF MANAGEMENT HAS SIMPLY TIED IT TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER BENEFITS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO 20 YEARS.
UM, IT WENT BACK TO THE LIBRARY BOARD YESTERDAY AND, UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, DISCUSSION WAS REALLY NO PROBLEM WITH TAKING IT DOWN TO, TO 10 YEARS.
YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF LOOKED AT PROBABLY NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE EVEN USING THAT.
UM, ONE THING JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, UM, BEYOND JUST THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF THE, IT'S PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR FOR NOT CHARGING FOR A MEMBERSHIP FEE FOR THESE PEOPLE.
THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND FOR ONGOING EXPENSES IS AS WE MOVE TO MORE AND MORE EBOOKS, ELECTRONIC BOOKS, UM, THOSE ACTUALLY COST THE LIBRARY MORE UPFRONT TO PURCHASE.
AS OPPOSED TO IF YOU'RE BUYING A, A PAPER COPY MIGHT BE $10.
YOU BUY AN EBOOK VERSION, IT MIGHT BE $50 FOR THE LIBRARY TO BUY IT.
AND SO THERE'S TWO WAYS TO BUY THESE EBOOKS.
A ONE-TIME FEE OF MORE OR A PER USE FEE.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT THIS MIGHT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS JUST GOING FORWARD WITH ANY OF THESE DECISIONS ABOUT THE LIBRARY THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THOSE EBOOKS.
UM, WE CAN CAP PRICES BASED ON BUYING THE BOOK OR ONLY LETTING SO MANY COPIES BE RESERVED FOR WHEN WE PAY PER USE ON THE EBOOKS.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING GOING FORWARD THAT THE LIBRARY THAT THE BOARD SHOULD KNOW, UM, ABOUT A COST IN THE LIBRARY, THAT WILL PROBABLY BE AN INCREASE.
'CAUSE I DO EBOOKS AND IT'S, I JUST WONDERED 'CAUSE IN ONE SENSE YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE CHEAPER, BUT NO.
'CAUSE THE PUBLISHER WANTS THEIR MONEY.
SO, UM, BUT THE LIBRARY STAFF HAS LOOKED, YOU KNOW, HAS DONE A GOOD JOB LOOKING AT WAYS TO EITHER BUY JUST THE BOOK AND WE USE IT AS MANY TIMES AS WE WANT, OR PUT A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF TIMES IT CAN BE PURCHASED.
SO IT JUST DOESN'T GO, YOU KNOW, KNOW GANGBUSTERS ON, YOU KNOW, CHARGING US A LOT.
SO THIS IS STILL PREPARED AT 20 YEARS, YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND TO 10 YEARS.
YEAH, KEN, THAT'S A GOOD POINT IS I THINK THAT THEY'RE SELLING THE, THE ACTUAL PAPER AND COVER, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE SELLING THE CONTENT.
SO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S PHYSICAL COPY OR ECO IS PROBABLY IRRELEVANT TO THE WRITER.
ON NEW BUSINESS, YOU HAVE A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT OR AN AMENDMENT TO THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT, UM, WITH RAGSDALE DEVELOPMENT, UH, D MURPH CO IS A DEVELOPER, THE WATERLINE EXTENSION.
CHRIS IS HERE TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
HOWEVER, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY UTILIZING THEM TO ALSO EXTEND OUR WATERLINE FROM THE ENTRANCE GOING UP TO THE NORTH, CONCURRENT WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU ALREADY AUTHORIZED IN THE BE THE ROADWAY.
IT'S A VERY CONSTRAINED CORRIDOR, AND THERE'S ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND TIMING.
EVERYTHING IS GONNA WORK BETTER.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE THEM INSTALL THIS SECTION OF WATER LINE FOR US.
AND SO CHRIS HAS OUTLINED 300 LINEAR FEET OF 12 INCH DUCT DUCTILE IRON PIPE, UH, THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD INSTALL, AND WE WOULD REIMBURSE THEM, INCLUDING ENGINEERING FEES FOR A TOTAL OF 92,255.
UH, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE, THE BEST WAY TO GO WITH THIS.
ALSO RELATED TO THIS, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT CLOSURE OF THE ROADWAY.
UM, BECAUSE THIS ROADWAY IS SO CONSTRAINED.
YOU'VE GOT A RETAINING WALL IN PLAY.
YOU'VE GOT THE SLOPE ON ONE SIDE.
YOU'VE GOT THE HILL ON THE OTHER SIDE, VERY NARROW ROADWAY.
IT IS THE TIGHTEST PART OF IT.
STAFF HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, THE ENGINEERS HAVE, AND SAID, THE VERY BEST WAY TO DO THIS IS GONNA BE TO CLOSE THE ENTIRE ROAD AND NOT ATTEMPT TO MAINTAIN THROUGH TRAFFIC IN ONE LANE OR TO USE FLAGGERS, BUT TO GO AHEAD AND KNOCK IT OUT AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN.
WE DO THANKFULLY, LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE ROUNDABOUT.
HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE, A SPLIT LOG ROAD THERE.
IT'S NOT TOO INCONVENIENT FOR FOLKS.
WE ATTEMPTED TO HAVE FLAGGERS.
WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE MORE OF AN INCONVENIENCE FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY CAN GET THROUGH THAT ROUTE AND THEY'RE LIKELY TO HAVE EXTENDED BACKUPS VERSUS JUST GOING AHEAD AND GOING AROUND.
AND SO, UM, BOTH ENGINEERING AND CHRIS AND FOLKS WANTED US TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.
APRIL 1ST IS THE TENTATIVE MILESTONE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO START AND CLOSE THE ROAD.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT DATE'S GONNA HAPPEN.
UM, THEY'VE GOT SOME, UH, RETAINING WALL PLANS THAT THEY'VE GOTTA FINALIZE.
WE WILL HAVE A, UM, A SOCIAL MEDIA BLITZ, IF YOU WILL, TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS AND THEN PREPARED FOR THAT CLOSURE.
UM, SO THAT DATE MAY SLIDE FORWARD, BUT WE JUST KIND OF WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE PREPARED THAT IT'S A COMPLETE CLOSURE OF THAT ROAD.
WE DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE SAFE TO, TO KEEP IT OPEN.
CAN WE GO ON AND GET FLASHING SIGNS OUT THERE? KIND OF LET 'EM KNOW APRIL ONE.
WORST CASE YOU, IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT LATER TO APRIL 12 OR WHATEVER IT IS BETTER TO GO ON AND LET 'EM KNOW SO
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THEY CAN START.DEREK, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT DATE TO SLIDE? YEAH, SO, UM, SARAH, I MIGHT NEED TO AS WELL.
BUT, UM, SO THE APRIL 1ST DEADLINE IS, UM, A HOPE SO DEADLINE, UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL IT.
UH, THERE ARE SOME PLANS THAT ARE STILL UNDER DESIGN FOR THE RETAINING WALL.
AND THE BEST THING TO DO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS GET THOSE RETAINING WALL PLANS FINISHED.
THAT WAY WE KNOW ALL THE, UM, THERE'S NO SURPRISES AFTER WE START THE PROJECT.
SO, UH, THE DEVELOPER HERE IS, UH, MR. DAVID PIERCE AGREES WITH THAT, AND THEY'RE WORKING FEVERISHLY TO GET THOSE RETAINING WALL PLANS COMPLETED.
BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT APRIL ONE WOULD STILL STAND.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD BE PUSHED BACK A WEEK AS FAR AS PUTTING MESSAGE BOARDS OUT.
UM, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH TODD, UH, IN THE PAST ABOUT PUTTING MESSAGE BOARDS OUT.
YOU KNOW, PRELIMINARILY, AS SOON AS WE KNOW THE DATE, WE WILL TRY TO GET SOMETHING OUT.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO CHARLES ABOUT A MEDIA BLITZ AND I THINK SARAH CATHERINE, UH, OR SOMEONE HAS DISCUSSED THIS WITH POLICE AND FIRE.
AND THEN WE'LL REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AS WELL.
SO THEY CAN HAVE ALTERNATE BUS ROUTES, BUT ALL OF THE LOCAL TRAFFIC WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR DRIVEWAYS STILL.
AND THEN WILL YOU LET GIS KNOW SO THAT THEY CAN SEND ALL THE APPROPRIATE, UM, INFORMATION TO ALL THE GPS COMPANIES SO THAT THAT GPSS WILL SHOW THAT THE ROAD IS CLOSED? SO GIS CAN DO THAT.
I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE IN SCHOOLS THAT WOULD WILLIAMS COUNTY SCHOOLS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
ABOUT 4 30, 32 TO FIVE TO SIX WEEKS QUESTION.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE HOPING FOR 30 DAYS, BUT WE DON'T WANNA PROMISE 30 DAYS IF WEATHER GETS IN THE WAY WE WANT TO, COULD, COULD WE PERSONALLY CONTACT THE SCHOOL BOARD SO THAT BUS DRIVERS CAN START KNOWING ABOUT THIS AHEAD OF TIME AND TELL THEM WE THINK ARE PROJECTED DETRI ROUTES ARE, I THINK THAT'LL TAKE SOME PLANNING ON THEIR PART.
NOT JUST SEEING A SIGN OUT ON THE ROAD.
WILLIAMS COUNTY SCHOOLS HAS THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT INSIDE AND THAT WOULD BE THE PERSON TO CONTACT TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
BUT I THINK WE GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WOULD YEAH, YOU COULD DO BOTH A HIERARCHY TO FOLLOW.
I THINK WE CAN DO THAT AND LET THEM CONVEY TO THEM.
AND, UH, WILL BUSES BE ABLE TO, IF THROUGH TRAFFIC CAN, I MEAN IF PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE CAN GET THERE, WILL A BUS STILL BE ABLE TO GO AND OR NOT? WE ALL ALLOW THAT.
ANY, ANY, ANY RESIDENT THAT LIVES ALONG THAT STRETCH WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR DRIVE FOR THE DURATION OF THOSE, OF THAT CLOSURE.
SO WOULD YOU LET A SCHOOL BUS THROUGH THERE TO PICK UP, UP A KID? I PRESUME SO.
I, I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY TO GET THAT DONE.
I'M JUST NOT EXPERIENCED WITH THAT.
BUT WE, WE WILL WORK, YEAH, WE WILL WORK TOWARD THAT.
AND IF ANYTHING CHANGES AND THE DIRECT LIMITS OF THE ROAD CLOSURE, THERE ARE NO KIDS THAT GO TO SCHOOL IN THAT.
I'VE ACQUIRED RIGHT AWAY FROM THOSE THREE TRACKS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW IS 'CAUSE THAT'S BEEN FINALIZED.
SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE SCHOOL AGE KIDS.
WE COULDN'T DELAY THIS TILL SCHOOL'S OVER.
UH, THE SUBDIVISION IS ON THE SORT OF A CRITICAL PATH.
AND THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPER, UH, UH, WORK HERE.
THERE A CARROT STICK RELATED TO, UH, THE ROAD AND SIX WEEKS DOESN'T TURN INTO 8, 10, 12.
UM, THE CARROT STICK HERE, MAYOR, I WOULD PRESUME IS THE, THE MORE TIME THE DEVELOPER SPENDS OUT THERE, THE MORE MONEY HE IS GONNA SPEND.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S HAS A LOT TO DO ASIDE FROM THE MAJOR POINT OF THIS, WHICH WOULD BE SAFETY IS FOR HIM TO GET THIS DONE EXPEDIENTLY.
BUT I MEAN, IF CREWS AREN'T THERE WORKING, THAT HOURLY SPEND IS NOT OCCURRING.
MAYBE THERE IS SOME SPEND ASSOCIATED TO HAVING HEAVY EQUIPMENT THERE.
BUT, UM, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE A, UH, A FRANKLIN ROAD.
SO, AND NOT THAT IT, IT'S THAT MAJOR, BUT THAT IS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT, UM, ROADWAY.
UH, ONE ASPECT THAT, UH, UH, THAT I MENTIONED, UM, UH, IN DISCUSSION WITH KIRK AND SARAH CATHERINE IS COMMUNICATION IS GONNA BE VERY CRITICAL DURING THIS PROCESS.
AND WE WILL KEEP YOU GUYS INFORMED OF WHAT'S GOING ON, UH, REGULARLY.
AND, UH, THE, THE DEVELOPER AND THE CONTRACTOR WILL KEEP US INFORMED.
I MEAN, AS THE, THE SIGNS ARE CRITICAL, I THINK RIGHT THERE ON SITE.
'CAUSE AS GOOD AS SOCIAL MEDIA IS, THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF PEOPLE YES MA'AM.
OR THEY MIGHT SEE IT BUT NOT REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE DATES AND THEN THEY'RE DRIVING DOWN, GOING TO WORK OR SOMETHING.
SO THOSE SIGNS ON SITE ARE REALLY CUT.
I THINK WE GOTTA GET THOSE UP SOONER THAN LATER.
AND I THINK IT, EVEN IF IT, THE DATE MOVES, IF YOU SAY STARTING APRIL ONE AND THEN
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IT CHANGES, THEY'LL BE THRILLED.BUT GOING AND GET 'EM UP AND WARN 'EM.
AGAIN, THE CONTRACTOR'S GIVEN US ABOUT A 32 DAY SCHEDULE, WHICH SEEMS A BIT TIGHT FOR US.
AND THAT'S, I WOULD RATHER UNDER PROMISE AND OVER DELIVER.
UH, SO I'M, I'M SAYING AT FIVE TO SIX WEEKS.
WELL THAT, THAT, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IN TERMS OF SETTING EXPECTATIONS THAT ARE REALISTIC, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S BETTER TO BEAT A REALISTIC EXPECTATION THAN SETTING AN UNREALISTIC EXPECTATION TO MISS IT.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD EXECUTION PLAN.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO THE RIGHT THING THE WRONG WAY OR IF YOU DON'T COMMUNICATE IT WELL, YOU DON'T GET A GOOD RESULT.
SO, UH, BEING ABLE TO REALLY COMMUNICATE THIS WELL, SO I I, WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMPLETELY IN TERMS OF HAVING A GOOD MULTI-MODE COMMUNICATION PLAN, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE PRESS RELEASES WE DO TO THESE VARIOUS MEDIA OUTLETS, SO IF THEY'VE COVERED THIS OR NOT, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE THEY HAVE A SLOW NEWS DAY AND THEY PICK UP A ROAD CLOSURE, YOU KNOW, GET IT OUT THAT WAY.
BUT I MEAN, CHARLES HAS BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB, YOU KNOW, GETTING THINGS OUTTA WAYS COULD EVEN BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A VIDEO.
THIS WILL BE A PRIORITY FOR US GETTING GOOD COMMUNICATION ON THIS 'CAUSE IT COULD BE A DISRUPTION.
SO YEAH, IF THE RAINY, I MEAN APRIL TOO, IF YOU GO BY HISTORY, GOT A LOT OF RAIN IN APRIL.
SOMETHING I DO WANNA MENTION IS, I'M SORRY, CONSIDERING, UH, WORKING AT NIGHT OUT THERE IS, OR IS IT JUST SO DARK OUT THERE THAT HE COULDN'T GET ENOUGH LIGHT ON THE PROJECT? UM, I, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT THAT THAT HAS TO BE CLEARED, I BELIEVE.
IS IT THROUGH THE, WELL, BOB'S NOT HERE.
PAST WORKING HOURS HAS TO BE CLEARED.
I'M SORRY, DOESN'T, I'M TALKING ABOUT 24 HOURS A DAY, DAY AND NIGHT.
YEAH, NO, I THINK I, I, I HAVE THE ABILITY TO OKAY, THAT, OKAY, I DID THAT ON FRANKLIN ROAD ONCE, LET 'EM WORK 24 HOURS, GET IT DONE IN THREE WEEKS INSTEAD OF SIX.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DISCUSS WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CONTRACT.
NOW I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING NIGHT INSTEAD OF DAY, I'M TALKING ABOUT DAY RIGHT AND NIGHT.
THAT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY I A MONEY ISSUE.
I EXPECT THAT ADDS 50% TO THEIR COST.
SO THAT'S A FAIRLY HEAVY LIFT TO TRY.
AND ESPECIALLY IN THAT CORRIDOR, I'M NOT EVEN SURE FROM A SAFETY POINT OF VIEW BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT VEHICLES MOVE MANEUVERING WITH A, A BIG SLOPE ON ONE SIDE.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF THAT'S A SAFE ALTERNATIVE FOR THEM TO WORK PROJECT LIKE THAT AT NIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING BECAUSE IT IS AWFULLY WORKING OUT THERE.
I DON'T EVEN LIKE THAT ROAD IN THE DAYTIME.
SO WE'LL HAVE ENGINEERING ENGAGE THEM ON THAT CONVERSATION.
IF IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS AT ANY POINT TO SPEED UP THE PROJECT TO WORK AT NIGHT, THEN CERTAINLY CONDITIONS BEHIND THAT.
UM, OTHERWISE WE UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT NOW THE PLAN IS DAYTIME WORK.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, LET ME ASK CHRIS, HAVE I MISSED ANYTHING ON THE WATERLINE PART OF THIS? I DON'T THINK SO.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS NOW.
THE MAIN WILL BE UNDER THE ROAD.
RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE RETAINING WALL AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO DO THIS AND GET IT INSTALLED.
IF YOU WANT TO JUMP TO THAT MAP REAL QUICK.
YEAH, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THE RED PORTION IS THE 300 FEET WE'RE DISCUSSING.
THE BLACK LINE IS ESSENTIALLY THE WALL AREA.
SO AS PART OF THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING, IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THEM INSTALL THIS SECTION WATER LINE AND GET IT OUT PAST THEIR CONSTRUCTION NEXT FALL, WINTER WHEN THE ROAD WIDENING WORK STARTS, WE JUST CONNECT TO THE END OF THE RED LINE THERE AND TAKE OFF.
DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND TEAR UP ANYTHING THEY'VE DONE.
THANKS FOR THINKING ABOUT IT THAT WAY.
YEAH, AND LIKE JAY SAID, IT'S REALLY TIGHT THROUGH HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A, A BLUE LINE STREAM ON THE LEFT, THE WEST OF THE ROAD THAT WE CAN'T IMPACT.
AND THEN STEEP SLOPE ON THE RIGHT.
THAT IS, UH, RESIDENTIAL LOT, SO.
AND WE'RE ADDING ABOUT, SORRY, YOU'RE THREE TO FOUR FEET OF FILL ON TOP OF THE ROAD.
SO IT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO A FLAGGER TYPE SITUATION.
SO YOU'D HAVE TO DO IT IN LIFT, LIFT SHUT DOWN EACH SIDE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO THAT IT WOULD BE A VERY TRICKY SITUATION AS FAR AS CLOSING ONE LANE.
SO THAT'S WHY THE CLOSURE IS PREFERRED.
A COUPLE MORE ITEMS. I GUESS FIRST I WOULD JUST ANNOUNCE, REMEMBER, UH, SATURDAY'S, ARBOR DAY, THE LIBRARY.
SO, UH, HAVE AN AGENDA COMING TO US PRIOR TO SATURDAY SO WE KNOW WHAT TIME EVERYTHING'S GOING BE.
I THINK SO 10 15 IS WHEN THE EVENT OR THE, THE CEREMONY STARTS AT 10 15, BUT DOING IT EARLY THIS TIME.
OH, I WAS GONNA SAY USUALLY IT'S NOT TOO MUCH LIKE WHEN GOOD USUALLY.
SO, UH, EVENT FORMALLY AT 10, BUT THE CEREMONY AT 10 15.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE A RUN OF SHOW, I CAN, I CAN ASK, UH, LYNN.
YEAH, WE USUALLY GET ONE SO WE KNOW WHAT'S TO EXPECT.
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IS GONNA BE THERE.THE KATHLEEN C***S WHO WERE OH, NICE.
HER HUSBAND'S GONNA BE THERE, SO.
OKAY, I'LL INQUIRE ABOUT THAT.
OH, ONE POINT BRING OUT, IT'S NOT ANYTHING WE HAVE TO DISCUSS OR ANYTHING, BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING.
I WAS MENTIONING TO SOME NEIGHBORS AT A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP ABOUT OUR WATER TOWER, TOWER PARK, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF SITTING BACK HERE AND HOW THEY MIGHT REACT TO SOMETHING THAT BIG THERE AND NOBODY HAD A REAL PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT ONE PERSON DID SAY, WELL, IS IT GRAFFITI PROOF? AND I UHOH HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
OUR OTHERS ARE TUCKED AWAY, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU COULDN'T GET TO 'EM EASILY AT NIGHT, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY ACCESSIBLE.
UH, SO JUST SOMETHING, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO DECORATE IT FIRST BEFORE THE GRAFFITI PEOPLE COME IN AND DO IT.
CHRIS, THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION.
SOMEBODY DID BRING SHOWS ALL THAT IN DETAIL, PROOF, ALL THAT UNDERSTOOD.
UH, ONE ITEM TO TALK ABOUT IT, IT, IT SIMPLY, UM, OUR SPRING CLEANUPS ARE COMING IN APRIL AND MAY AND THE, WE'VE JUST GOTTEN NOTICE FROM WILLIAMSON COUNTY THAT THE LANDFILL IS NO LONGER ACCEPTING MATTRESSES.
AND BETWEEN OUR THREE DATES, WHEN WE DO OUR CLEANUPS, WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF MATTRESSES THAT COME IN.
UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTING THEM IN INSIDE THE LANDFILL.
THEY WILL ACCEPT THEM IF YOU DRIVE THEM ALL THE WAY TO THE LANDFILL.
AND THEY'LL HAVE A VENDOR SET UP AT THE FRONT, AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER THAT'S OUT THERE, AND YOU CAN PAY $20 TO HAVE THEM RECYCLED, BUT YOU CAN NO LONGER JUST THROW THEM AWAY, DISPOSE OF THEM IN THE LANDFILL.
I GUESS, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT'S A LARGE VOLUME THING AND YOU GET 10,000 OF THOSE AND IT TAKES UP A LOT OF LANDFILL SPACE.
SO THEY HAVE A RECYCLER WHO THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH, UM, AND CHARGING $20 PER MATTRESS.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT MOST EVERY COMPANY THAT DELIVERS A MATTRESS WILL ALSO TAKE YOUR OLD ONE AWAY, USUALLY FOR A SMALL FEE.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF THEM THAT COME, BUT OUR PLAN RIGHT NOW IS TO NO LONGER ACCEPT MATTRESSES.
UM, AGAIN, WE ONLY GET MAYBE FIVE, SIX A YEAR.
UM, BUT THEN TO, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT THAT'S MUCH LIKE OILS, PAINTS, GREASE, OTHER THINGS THAT WE DON'T TAKE.
MATTRESSES ALSO WOULD BE ONE OF THEM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PILE IT IN THE TRUCK AND HAVE IT CO-LOCATED WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEN THAT LOAD CAN'T GO INTO THE LANDFILL.
YOU HAVE TO PULL IT OUT AND THAT KIND OF THING.
AND SO OUR PLAN RIGHT NOW WOULD TO BE NO LONGER ACCEPT MATTRESSES AND HAVE FOLKS EITHER TAKE IT OUT THERE AND, AND PAY THE FEE OR SIMPLY HAVE ROOMS TO GO WHOEVER IT IS WHO TAKES, WHO DELIVERS THEIR FIRST MATTRESS TO, TO TAKE THE OLD ONE.
SO JUST, AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
SO IF YOU GO YOURSELF, NOT ALL THE WAY TO THE DUMP, BUT JUST LIKE TO THE, THE ONE AT SNEAD OR WHATEVER, AND THEY HAVE A SEPARATE DUMPSTER THAT YOU STICK A MATTRESS IN, ARE YOU THINK, ARE YOU SAYING WILLIAMSON? THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY WON'T HAVE 'EM WHERE THEY, THEY'LL TURN YOU AWAY.
SO THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF A MATTRESS IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS TO DRIVE IT TO THE LANDFILL AND PAY THE $20 TO GET RID OF IT.
THERE'S NO OTHER MECHANISM PRIVATELY, UNLESS YOU'VE CONTRACTED WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S GOING TO DO THAT FOR YOU.
WHICH AN EFFECTIVE YOU ARE PAYING FOR.
IT'S KINDA LIKE GETTING RID OF YOUR OLD REFRIGERATOR WHEN YOU GET THE NEW ONE IN, YOU PAY AN EXTRA 50 BUCKS FOR 'EM TO HAUL IT OFF.
MATTRESSES ARE KIND OF GONNA BE SIMILAR.
WE, WE JUST GOT A NEW MATTRESS LAST MONTH AND YOU, WE WERE EXPECTING YOU BUY THE MATTRESS AND THEY HAUL THE OLD ONE OFF, BUT THERE WAS A CHARGE ON THAT.
SO, AND LET ME ASK TODD, HAVE I MISSED ANYTHING? NO, I, I CALLED AROUND SEVERAL MATTRESS COMPANIES.
THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENCES, BUT THEY'RE ALL FAIRLY SIMILAR.
SOME DO IT FOR FREE, UH, MAYBE IT'S BUILT INTO THE COST OF THE MATTRESS.
UM, OTHERS CHARGE A LITTLE BIT FOR THE DELIVERY SET UP AND HAUL AWAY.
UM, BUT REGARDLESS, IT'S GETTING PAID FOR ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
IT, IT WOULD BE PAID FOR TODAY IF IT WAS HAULED TO THE LANDFILL.
'CAUSE YOU'RE PAYING BY WEIGHT TO TIP THE TRUCK.
UM, SO IN A SENSE, THE COST ISN'T REALLY THE ISSUE.
IT'S THE HANDLING AND THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES NECESSARY TO MOVE THOSE THINGS AROUND.
WE DON'T ALWAYS HAUL AFTER ONE CLEANUP DAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FULL TRUCKLOADS.
SO WE'LL WAIT FOR TWO OR THREE CLEANUP DAYS AND WE'D BE KIND OF STOCKPILING IT.
IT WOULD BE PRONE TO WEATHER AND GET JUST KIND OF GROSS AND NASTY.
IF A RESIDENT IS GOING TO LOAD IT UP TO BRING IT TO A CLEANUP DAY, WE WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THEY JUST GO AHEAD AND CARRY IT ON TO THE LANDFILL AND ELIMINATE THE HEADACHES OF IT FOR US.
AND THERE MAY BE A LEARNING CURVE FOR OUR RESIDENTS ON THAT, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GET RID OF MATTRESSES AND AREN'T REPLACING THEM FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
SO THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF A LEARNING CURVE.
SO WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO HELP WITH THAT.
WE WOULD COMMUNICATE THAT IT'S NO LONGER ACCEPTED AS PART OF OUR CLEANUP DAY.
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CHARLES DOES THAT REGULARLY BEFORE THE CLEANUP DAYS ANYWAY.'CAUSE THERE, LIKE JAY MENTIONED, BATTERIES, PAINT, OILS, GREASE, THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, SO WE WOULD COMMUNICATE THAT THEN AND WE'LL, WE WILL EMPHASIZE SINCE THAT'S A NEW ONE.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF FOLKS OUT OF THE THREE ENTIRE EVENTS, BUT WE DON'T WANT FOLKS TO SHOW UP WITH ONE AND THEN WIND UP THINKING AT ALL.
WELL, AND AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, LIKE YOU COMMENT IN TERMS OF GETTING RID OF 'EM PRIVATELY, THIS IS ACTUALLY DISPOSING OF THEM USING PUBLIC RESOURCES.
AND, UH, I'VE GOTTA THINK IN ANY GIVEN YEAR, THERE'S MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING RID OF MATTRESSES THAT AREN'T BEING REPLACED.
BUT THERE'S SOME THAT I THINK ARE TRYING TO USE, USE THE CONVENIENCE WE SUPPLY TO, TO HAVE THE CLEANUP DATA TO GET RID OF THEM.
MY MY GUESS IS THAT JUST LIKE WITH ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT AND OTHER STUFF, THERE'S A TRUCKLOAD OF RECYCLING COMPANIES THAT OPERATE HERE IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND IN BRENTWOOD THAT PICKS STUFF UP AND, AND TAKE IT AWAY.
AND I'M GUESSING MATTRESSES ARE NO DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW? SO WHILE IT MAY NOT BE A CONVENIENCE THAT WE SUPPLY AT SPRING CLEANUP DAY, I'M GUESSING THERE ARE PLENTY OF PRIVATE WAYS, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT BUYING A MATTRESS, I MEAN, ONE OF THESE MATTRESS STORES MAY HAVE A, A, A RESOURCE WHERE PEOPLE CAN SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I I, I COULD TAKE IT MYSELF TO THE LANDFILL AND, AND DO IT FOR ONLY 20 BUCKS.
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEND 40 BUCKS OR 45 BUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAVE SOMEONE COME TO THE HOUSE TO PICK IT UP.
UM, SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE OBLIGATED.
NO, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE OBLIGATED SERVICE, BUT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT SOME INFORMATION OUT OF, HEY, WE'RE NO LONGER PICKING UP MATTRESSES AS SPRING CLEANUP DAY, BUT HEY, HERE ARE SOME.
NOW I KNOW WE DON'T RECOMMEND PRIVATE COMPANIES, LIKE EVEN WITH BACKFLOW TESTING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SAY THESE ARE OUR APPROVED VENDORS BECAUSE BRENTWOOD DOESN'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR VETTING ALL THE APPROVED VENDORS.
YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD LIST THE SPECIFIC COMPANIES THAT PICK UP MATTRESSES AND, AND SOMEHOW ENDORSE THEM.
BUT WE COULD PROBABLY POINT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I THINK WHAT WE WOULD DO IS SAY CHECK YOUR OR POST TO YOUR FACEBOOK GROUP OR YOUR, UH, NEXT DOOR GROUP.
OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHO'S A PAINTER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD KIND OF THING ON NEXT DOOR.
AND SEE WHO IN YOUR AREA CAN HELP GET RID OF A MASTERS IF YOU HAVE, HAVE ONE TO DISPOSE OF.
I'M SURE THERE PEOPLE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS AND SAY, HEY, SURE, THAT'S MY LITTLE COTTAGE WEEKEND BUSINESS.
UM, BUT WE WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, CHECK YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS FOR THOSE IN YOUR AREA WHO MIGHT HELP 'EM DO THAT.
LAST ITEM FOR YOU, UH, IS TO, UM, CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT FUNDING OF SERVICE PROVIDERS.
AND I KNOW KAREN HAD PROVIDED INFORMATION, UH, WITH REGARD TO WHO HAS SUBMITTED WHAT.
UM, IN TERMS OF DOCUMENTATION THAT WE ASK FOR, WHEN, UH, WE CONSIDER THESE REQUESTS EVERY YEAR.
KAREN'S, THIS IS AN UPDATED LIST, UM, I RECEIVED FROM BRENTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL AFTER I SENT THEM OUT TO YOU.
ALL THESE NOTES WE TOOK ON THAT PAGE YESTERDAY DOESN'T WORK.
YOU GOTTA MAKE NEW NOTES AFTER YESTERDAY.
I'VE NOTICED THAT BRENT, WHAT HIGH SCHOOL YOU SAID? YES SIR.
I DID
BUT YEAH, SO STAFF'S PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COME TO KIND OF AN AGREEMENT OF WHAT WE WILL PROPOSE TO YOU IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT AS WE'RE PREPARING THAT NOW.
IT HELPS STEER EARLIER, THE BETTER THAT WE KNOW WE'RE PREPARED TO SUBMIT 244,400 AS, UH, UNALLOCATED IN THE DRAFT VERSION OF THE BUDGET.
AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU TYPICALLY MAKE MOTIONS TO THEN ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS AS A PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.
WE WOULD PROPOSE FOR YOUR RECREATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICE PROVIDERS, THE $102,000 UNALLOCATED.
AND THEN FOR THE OTHER PROVIDERS.
I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO, UH, WILLIAMSON INC.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTATION THAT, UH, KAREN HAS SENT IN THE LINK, BUT WE DO HAVE A FINANCIAL REPORT FROM BRENTWOOD UP, UH, THAT THEY HAVE AN AUDIT AVAILABLE YET, BUT WE DO HAVE A FINANCIAL REPORT.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, A BUDGET FROM BRENTWOOD UP, BUT WE ALSO DO NOT HAVE ONE FROM MID CUMBERLAND OR FROM WILLIAMSON INC.
WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE EVERY I DOTTED AND EVERY T CROSSED.
BUT, UH, THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED FROM THESE GOOD FOLKS
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THIS YEAR AND IT'S, UH, SUBJECT TO YOUR CONSIDERATION.SO YOU WANNA JUST START WITH THE EDUCATION TO BEGIN WITH? YES SIR.
WELL, WELL I THINK TO ME, BRENTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL, UH, THAT'S JUST WAY TOO MUCH.
I THINK WE STICK WITH THE 62 4 THAT WAS IN THERE.
WELL, I WOULD JUST SAY LET'S KEEP THE SCHOOLS AT THE SAME LEVEL AS LAST YEAR.
NOW SOME OF SCHOOLS ARE REQUESTING LESS ODDLY, UM, YEAH.
LESS STUDENTS ZONED TO BRENTWOOD, MAYBE OTHER SPLIT FEEDER SCHOOLS.
THAT IS, UH, I DUNNO IF THAT'S THE CASE WITH A CROSS ELEMENTARY WHO'S REQUESTING $400 LESS THAN LAST YEAR.
THAT'S PROBABLY SO THOUSAND WAS THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT AND THEY'VE JUST STUCK WITH THAT I THINK OVER THE YEARS.
YEAH, IF THEY, THEY HAVE AN CREDIT BASED ON WHAT WE DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT WE NORMALLY JUST GIVE THE EXTRA 400 EVEN THOUGH THEY ONLY REQUEST 10,000.
SEEMS TO BE CONCURRENCE THERE.
AND FOR OUR RECREATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICE PROVIDERS, LIKEWISE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAY AT 102,000? MAKES SENSE.
ONE QUESTION, AND I SEE A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE GONE TO 25,000, UM, LOOKING THROUGH IT.
DID ANYONE SEE REASONS WHY THEY CAME UP TO THAT NUMBER LOOKING COMPELLING OR, OR THEY THEY JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO, DO YOU THINK, KAREN, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO SAY THAT AGAIN? WELL JUST SEE THE NUMBER OF 'EM CAME UP.
LIKE I KNOW LIKE THE YMCA HAS GONE FROM TWO FACILITIES TO ONE FACILITY, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PROGRAMS. SO I DIDN'T KNOW, WELL LIKE IS IT $13,000? WAS THAT THE Y IN GENERAL OR IS THAT THE KIND ROAD? WHY WITH, UH, BRENTWOOD BALL CLUB FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, THEY WENT FROM 21 TO 25, BUT THEY'VE ALSO BEEN INVESTING HEAVILY IN THE COMMUNITY WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME FIELDS AND OTHER STUFF.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF, IF FROM WHAT YOU KNOW, UM, OR WHAT JAY MIGHT KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON, WHY THE Y FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE BRENTWOOD BALL CLUB OR BRENTWOOD BLAZE CAME UP, YOU KNOW, OR ARE THEY PUTTING SOME FACILITIES INTO OUR PARKS? LIKE WITH THE, THE SPORTS PROGRAMS OR? WELL, NOTHING JUST GENERAL.
NOTHING THAT THEY POINTED OUT TO ME SPECIFICALLY, NO.
BECAUSE I DIDN'T NOTICE IT MIGHT BE BURIED IN ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS PROVIDED.
AND FOR THE YMCA, WAS IT $13,000 PER FACILITY BEFORE OR IS IT, DID WE DO $13,000 JUST TO THE Y AND THEY WOULD USE IT WHATEVER FACILITY? IT'S MOSTLY BEEN THE FULL CIRCLE PROGRAM AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
AND THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO THE CONCORD ROADWAY? YEAH.
SO THIS WOULD BE LEVEL FUNDING IF WE DID 13,000 FOR WHAT THEY'VE HAD FOR FULL CIRCLE IN THE PAST.
I THINK WE LEAVE IT LIKE, IT WAS LIKE IN, I THINK WE LEAVE IT LIKE IT WAS TOO, WAS IN 24 OR LIKE IT'S BEEN REQUESTED FOR 25, 20.
NOW HOW MANY OF YOU ALL ARE LOWER INVOLVED WITH THE SPORTS PROGRAMS? 'CAUSE I'M NOT, I HAVE NO BACKGROUND HERE.
GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE ASKING, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THEY WOULD'VE NEEDED MORE MONEY THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE OF THE UM, UH, WHEN I WAS PRESIDENT OF CTAN BALL CLUB, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE WAS THE, THE FUNDING WAS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THE WAY THAT FUNDING WAS HELD, UH, AT THE CLUB LEVEL VERSUS WHAT CAME DOWN TO THE ACTUAL RECREATION, UH, PROVIDER LEVEL.
UM, UM, IN TERMS OF A DIFFERENCE IN WHY, UH, I DON'T KNOW WELL OF ALL TEAMS IS THERE, WOULD THERE BE ANY JUSTIFICATION TO INCREASE IT OR NOT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S IT'S KIND OF A, UH, A DUE TO DO FROM JUST A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BECAUSE, UH, AS MUCH AS, UM, BRENTWOOD BALL CLUB AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, IS CONTRIBUTING, UH, TO THE CITY, UM, AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, GIVE IT, UH, TO BALL CLUB AND THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND GIVE IT BACK.
I MEAN,
AND, AND TO THAT END, I MEAN, I KNOW BRENTWOOD BLAZE IS SPENDING A, A LOT ON SAFETY EQUIPMENT.
IN TERMS OF, UH, THE HELMET TECHNOLOGIES IMPROVED A LOT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THE OLD HELMETS OVER AT THE HOUSE AND LOOKING AT THE HELMET THAT ALEC HAD WHEN HE PLAYED IN BRENTWOOD BLAZE AND THE HELMET TREVOR HAS IN COLLEGE.
THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PIECES OF TECHNOLOGY.
AND I KNOW THE BLAZE FOOTBALL WITH THE YOUNG KIDS HAS BEEN TRYING TO UPGRADE TO MUCH MORE CURRENT, MUCH HIGHER LEVEL, UH, PROTECTION EQUIPMENT.
AND THEY'RE ALWAYS UPGRADING THE SCOREBOARDS TOO OVER THE YEARS THEY'VE USED YEAH.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I MEAN, $7,000 ISN'T GONNA BUY A WHOLE LOT OF HELMETS
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AND I THINK THEY'VE BUILT PART OF THIS INTO THEIR FEES.SO I DON'T KNOW THAT BRENTWOOD BLAZE DOES ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
WHETHER OR NOT WE GO FROM 18 TO 25 ON THOSE TWO.
I MEAN, DO WE, IT IS NOT THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THOSE TWO A LITTLE BIT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ON IT.
WE CAN LEAVE IT AT THE EXISTING NUMBER AND THEN COME BACK AND CHECK IT LATER.
THIS IS JUST WE WHAT WE'LL DRAFT THE BUDGET WITH AS OKAY.
AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, I JUST MAKE THAT OBSERVATION THAT WE, WE GENERALLY MAKE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THAT FUND THESE PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR ENTIRETY AS A CITY PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, AND SENIOR SERVICES IS ONE THAT I TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT.
AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE INVESTING HERE IS NOT NEARLY WHAT WE'D SPEND IF WE WERE TO TRY TO BRING ALL THESE PROGRAMS IN HOUSE AND RUN 'EM USING CITY STAFF AND ENTIRELY CITY RESOURCES.
SO THIS IS A, A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A GOOD PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND LEVERAGING THE RESOURCES, I THINK WITH BOTH THE SCHOOLS AND THE RECREATION THOUGH, BY KEEPING IT THE SAME AS IT'S BEEN, YOU'RE SENDING A MESSAGE THAT THIS IS KIND OF WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
BUILD YOUR BUDGET AROUND THAT YOU FIGURE YOUR FUNDRAISING.
'CAUSE THEY ALL HAVE FUNDRAISING PROJECTS TOO, SO.
UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY CONTRIBUTE TO THE SCHOOLS? NONE.
WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
I BEEN COLLEGE VERY FORTUNATE.
WE HAVE TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT ALSO, THESE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN THE SAME PROBABLY FOR 10 YEARS.
NO, WE HAD THAT LITTLE BUMP UP A FEW YEARS AGO THAT IT'S GONE UP.
SO AGO WHEN IT WENT FROM LIKE 10 TO, TO ATTEND FOUR FOR THE, UM, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THEN IT WENT FROM 15 TO 15 SIX FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
AND THEN I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE HIGH SCHOOLS WERE, BUT I YEAH, SO MILD.
SO, BUT THE, I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY MUCH THE SAME IN THE FIVE YEARS THEY'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION.
BUT TO SOME LEVEL WE, WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENCES IN COSTS AND INFLATION AND OTHER STUFF.
THEN COMMISSIONERS, WITH REGARD TO THE OTHER PROVIDERS, YOU HAVE, UH, TWO ON THE LIST WHO YOU'VE NOT FUNDED IN THE PAST.
YOU HAVE TWO WHO YOU HAVE FUNDED IN THE PAST AND HAVE REQUESTED MORE MONEY, AND THEN YOU HAVE MID CUMBERLAND WHO IS REQUESTING WHAT YOU PROVIDED LAST YEAR.
WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE WITH REGARD TO THESE? WITH REGARD TO WHAT THESE, THESE, I THINK MID CUMBERLAND, I THINK THAT'S BEEN AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN A VAST INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS THAT UTILIZE THAT, BUT THERE ARE SOME, SO I'M FINE TO LEAVE MID CUMBERLAND WHERE IT WAS YOU, THE TRANSIT LINES.
I'M NOT SURE I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
THE THING JUST SEEMS LIKE A, A TOKEN ASK JUST TO, JUST TO WRITE US DOWN AS SOMEONE THAT, THAT HELPS 'EM.
BUT I'M NOT, THEIR, THEIR PROPOSED USE OF THE MONEY IS I THINK TO HELP FUND THEIR TRANSIT CITIZENS LEADERSHIP ACADEMY AND OTHERWISE TRANSIT EDUCATION.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE ASKED IN RECENT YEARS TOO.
CALLING UBER ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COST OF RUNNING OURSELVES VERSUS, YOU KNOW, PARTNERING.
I MEAN, LEADERSHIP BRENTWOOD IN PARTICULAR, I FEEL LIKE IS A VERY VALUE ADDED PROGRAM THAT'S WELL ESTABLISHED AND HAS BEEN WORKING, IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP FOR A LONG TIME.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE, UH, WE DISCUSSED LAST MEETING, YOU KNOW, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO, TO BRENTWOOD AND ALSO KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FILLING OFFICE BUILDINGS AND HEADQUARTERS AND DIFFERENT BUILD, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES LIKE THAT AS OPPOSED TO BEING WAREHOUSES OR LOGISTICS CENTERS.
IT'S NOT AS IF THEY'RE LOGISTICS.
WE HAVE A GREAT BIG, VERY GOOD LOGISTICS COMPANY HEADQUARTERED RIGHT OVER HERE IN BRENTWOOD CITY CENTER, BUT IT'S THEIR HEADQUARTERS.
IT'S NOT THEIR WAREHOUSES OR THEIR OTHER STUFF.
SO I, I DO THINK THAT FOCUSED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS THE KIND OF BUSINESSES THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE HERE IS, IS MONEY WELL SPENT.
AND IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL PROPORTION, DO YOU HAVE ZONING FOR WAREHOUSES IN PRIVILEGE? UM, WELL, I MEAN, I'VE GOT A WAREHOUSE IN MARYLAND FARMS, YOU KNOW, IS OUR PARTS DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK C TWO AND C3 ALLOW FOR THAT WAREHOUSE IN COOL SPRINGS.
DOES ZONING, DO WE HAVE WAREHOUSE ZONING? BOB? YEAH.
ONE THE, YOU CAN DO WAREHOUSING IN ONE OF THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
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LANE RATHER.SORRY, I, SORRY, I INTERRUPTED THAT.
TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO, UM, FUND BRENTWOOD UP.
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN A PROVEN NEW PLAYER IN THE AREA FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND AM I CORRECT THAT THEY'VE MET ALL THE NEEDS FOR STATE YEAH.
REQUIREMENTS AND IT'S BEEN A YEAR AND THERE'S BEEN SOME INFORMATION TALKED ABOUT THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT, KRISTEN? CAN YOU THAT LAW, THE STATE LAW THAT PEOPLE KEEP REFERRING TO THAT SOMETHING SOMEONE HAS TO SHARE.
UH, PART, UM, IT SAYS ANY NONPROFIT THAT, SORRY, IT'S SMALLER THAN MY EYES.
COMPUTER
THAT INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED TO EITHER A COPY OF THE ENTITY'S MOST RECENTLY COMPLETED ANNUAL AUDIT OR AN ANNUAL REPORT DETAILING ALL RECEIPTS AND EXPENDITURES AND A FORM PRESCRIBED BY THE COMPTROLLER OF THE TREASURY, WHICH I THINK WE'VE DETERMINED THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE HAS NOT NECESSARILY DONE THE, UM, SET OF GUIDELINES THAT THE STATUTE SAYS THAT THEY WOULD DO.
BUT, UM, A DESCRIPTION OF THE PROGRAM THAT SERVES THE RESIDENTS OF MUNICIPALITY AND THE PROPOSED USE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S, UM, COMPLETED MOST RECENTLY COMPLETED ANNUAL AUDIT REPORT OR ANNUAL REPORT.
SO THAT'S HOW IT SAYS, AND I BELIEVE KAREN HAS CHECKED THAT THEY HAVE FINANCIALLY A FINANCIAL REPORT.
SO YEAH, I'D LIKE TO FUND THAT.
SO Y'ALL LIKE TO FUND IT AT $10,000? YES.
SO BRENTWOOD UP LAST YEAR HAD A, A HANDFUL OF EVENTS.
UM, AND, AND I CAN SEE THAT AT RIBBON CUTTING AND WHATNOT.
UM, THEIR, THEIR TOTAL BUDGET THAT THEY'RE SHOWING HERE IS WHAT, $25,000? SO $10,000, YOU KNOW, WOULD REPRESENT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, A TREMENDOUS PROPORTION OF THEIR BUDGET.
I MEAN, AS A, AS A ALMOST FIRST YEAR ORGANIZATION AND LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS FIRST ORGANIZATION THAT THEIR DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY, UM, REGISTRATION IS A 10 15 GASAWAY CIRCLE, WHICH IS A, A HOME IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN BRENTWOOD.
AND I SEE THEY'VE GOT A POST OFFICE BOX IN ADDITION TO THE BEING INCORPORATED IN SOMEONE'S HOME AND APPARENTLY, UH, TAMLA ULTA'S, UH, HOME.
BUT I HAVE TO SAY, I, I'VE GOT SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT PUTTING $10,000, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE DO FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO WHAT WE DO FOR OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS TO A BRAND NEW ORGANIZATION AT SOMEBODY'S HOME THAT REPRESENTS, YOU KNOW, IT REPRESENTS WHAT I MEAN.
WELL, OVER A QUARTER OF THEIR BUDGET.
I, I JUST WENT TO THE RIBBON CUTTING WITH WILLIAMSON INC.
AND THEIR WHOLE PREMISE IS PEOPLE DON'T HAVE OFFICES ANYMORE.
PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME AND THEY'VE GOT THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING THAT IF YOU WANT TO GO RENT AN OFFICE FOR A DAY, A CONFERENCE ROOM, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
SO I THINK SOMETIMES THERE'S BUSINESSES, EITHER STARTUPS OR ONES THAT ARE SMALLER THAT HAVE TO UTILIZE THAT AS THEY GET GOING.
UH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THE LACK OF THE OFFICE IS A, IS SOMETHING THAT WORRIES ME.
I JUST DON'T ENVISION THE CITY FUNDING THE STARTUP.
I WANT 'EM TO HAVE SOMETHING UNDER THEIR BELT THAT THEY SHOW US THAT THEY'VE HAD BESIDES FUN EVENTS.
I, I TOLD YOU LAST TIME, WORKING WITH SMALL BUSINESSES, HELPING THEM TO, UH, BROADEN THEIR BUSINESS BASE OR WHATEVER IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEIR MISSION IS.
BUT SO FAR I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF IT.
I I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GIVING THEM MONEY IF I SEE SOME EVIDENCE, BUT I HAVE WOULD NEVER SPEND MONEY ON A STARTUP UNLESS IT WERE MY OWN PERSONAL MONEY.
YOU DON'T TAKE OTHER PEOPLE'S TAXPAYERS MONEY AND FUND A STARTUP.
AND WHAT I CAN SEE ABOUT BRENTWOOD UP IS, UM, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A YEAR AND THERE ARE, UH, ALL OF THE PEOPLE, UH, ON THE BOARD, UH, THAT WORK WITHIN, UH, BRENTWOOD UP THAT VOLUNTEER, UH, THEIR TIME.
UH, AND THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, PROVING, UH, AND
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HAVE HAD GOOD SUCCESS WITH LOCAL BRENTWOOD BUSINESS.IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN, UH, THAN WILLIAMSON INC.
WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, THREE PEOPLE, UH, THAT COMPRISE CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF SALARIES.
UM, THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE SMALL BUSINESS, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO, UH, TO FOSTER, BUT WHAT SUCCESS HAVE THEY HAD? I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ON PAPER.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CONTENTIOUS.
OH, IF I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM MONEY, I WANNA BE ABLE TO DEFEND IT.
IF SOMEBODY ASKS ME, WELL, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE BESIDES HAVE SOME MIXERS AND MINGLES AND, UH, DONUTS WITH THE MAYOR? I MEAN, YOU KNOW SURE, SURE.
WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT OURSELVES.
NO, WELL, THE MAYOR WOULDN'T HAVE COME.
IF WE'D DONE IT, WE COULD HAVE MAYBE DONE IT WITH THE VICE MAYOR OR ONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD'VE BEEN HAPPY TO BE THERE.
BUT, UM, UH, THEY HAVE HAD, UM, RIBBON CUTTINGS.
UM, THEY'VE WELCOMED A, UH, A VERY HIGHLY SKILLED, UM, AND HELPED RECRUIT AND VERY HIGHLY SKILLED NEW PLASTIC, UH, SURGEON, UH, TO BRENTWOOD.
UH, THEY'VE HAD THE MIXERS AND THEY CONTINUE TO GROW.
UM, WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION.
AND IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU CAN DEFEND THAT, THEN THAT'S YOUR OPINION AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO VOTE THAT WAY.
AND I'LL VOTE I WAY, AND IF THEY WILL BRING SOMETHING TO SHOW WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE OR THEIR BUDGET EVEN MM-HMM.
I'M NOT AUTOMATICALLY AGAINST THEM, IT'S JUST I REALLY DON'T GIVE MONEY AWAY, BUT I A SOLID BASIS FOR DOING IT, I DON'T THINK.
SO MAYOR, I KNOW OVER THE YEARS YOU'VE BEEN VERY ADAMANT ABOUT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST OR, YOU KNOW, BEING TRANSPARENT ON, ON ALL THESE THINGS AND, UM, BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT IT.
UM, UH, I'D, I'D BE INTERESTED IN YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON, I MEAN, I KNOW WITH THAT ADDRESS WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE SET UP, THE OTHER COMPANY SET UP AT THAT ADDRESS IS SOLTIS ASSOCIATES, WHO I BELIEVE DOES YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOUR INTERNET MARKETING IF YOU'RE CAMPAIGN.
UM, DO YOU FEEL THERE'S ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE OR ANY PROBLEMS WITH WITH THAT? I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH, UH, WITH LEGAL AND, UH, DISCLOSE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT I HAVE APPROPRIATELY.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ADDRESS LIKE KEN SAID.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE GIVEN THAT IT'S VOLUNTEERS ROLLING DURING THEIR TIME AND EVERYBODY IN BRENTWOOD IS GONNA BENEFIT FROM THESE SMALL ORGANIZA, THESE SMALL BUSINESSES BOTH COMING TO FILL IN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPTY SPACE AND IT'S NOT HUGE AMOUNTS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE WHEN YOU SEE THE FOUR LEASE SIGN, IT'S SMALLER LITTLE THINGS.
SO THAT'S WHERE THESE SMALLER BUSINESSES COMING INTO BRENTWOOD WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, OCCUPY SOME OF THESE VACANT SPACES.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS BENEFIT FROM LOCAL MOM AND POP SHOPS AND SO FORTH, EXISTING KEEPS DOWN ON OUR TRAFFIC.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO FRANKLIN.
WE KEEP BRENTWOOD DOLLARS IN BRENTWOOD.
SO ANYTHING WE DO TO MAKE SURE THESE SMALL BUSINESSES, UM, COME IN AND STAY IN, I THINK IS REALLY, IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND A VERY DIFFERENT FOCUS THAN WHAT WILLIAMSON INC IS.
AND I, I THINK IT'S OKAY TO, TO SUPPORT THIS AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ADDRESS.
WELL, JAY, CAN YOU READ WHAT, UM, UH, WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS ARE COMING FROM ON THIS? PRETTY CLEARLY? I, I CAN, AND I, I WANTED TO LET THE CONVERSATION EXHAUST ITSELF AND IF WE THINK IT'S THERE, UM, CLEARLY I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE UNANIMITY ON THIS ONE, BUT, UM, I CAN COUNT FOUR.
AND SO AS FAR AS PREPARATION OF THE DRAFT BUDGET, KNOWING THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION OR DEBATE TO BE HAD OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PREPARE THIS ITEM FOR $10,000 FOR BRENTWOOD UP.
AND IF I COULD ASK, I'D BE INTERESTED, LIKE I, I'D SEE IN THEIR APPLICATION, UM, SOME PICTURES OF SOME EVENTS THAT THEY HAD OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST YEAR.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE ACKNOWLEDGING SOME BUSINESSES, I GUESS, THAT HAVE COME TO BRENTWOOD OR TRYING TO HELP BUSINESSES ALREADY IN BRENTWOOD SOME LEVEL.
BUT GIVEN THAT WE'RE PUTTING $10,000 OR PROPOSING TO PUT $10,000 IN WITH SOME SORT OF RETURN, I GUESS EXPECTED, I GUESS I'D BE INTERESTED IN HOW THEY WOULD GO ABOUT BRINGING BUSINESSES INTO BRENTWOOD TO DO WHAT I GUESS COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN AND COMMISSIONER GOMAN DESCRIBED, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY'RE PLANNING ON BRINGING THE BUSINESSES THAT WOULDN'T COME IN OTHERWISE OR SUPPORT THE KIND OF BUSINESSES THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WOULDN'T COME IN OTHERWISE AS OPPOSED TO THE EFFORTS OF THE CHAMBER TO ENCOURAGE THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY.
SO IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING, I MEAN, GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE BUSINESS PLAN OR STRATEGY OR SOME, SOME SORT OF SOMETHING.
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ALONG TO THEM.THERE IS A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SUCH AS WHAT YOU JUST STATED AND SEE WHAT IS PROVIDED.
YEAH, I THINK I HAVE DIRECTION SO FAR ON THAT ITEM AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT FROM WILLIAM.
I'M NOT DO AN AWFUL LOT OF DIGGING ON WILLIAMSON INC.
WELL, IF THEY COMPARE THE SCRUTINY, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO IT.
AND IF THEY CAN'T, THEN WE'LL FIND OUT.
THAT SOUNDS SO THREATENING THOUGH, TO COME FROM THE MAYOR OF THE CITY TO SAY, I'M GONNA DO AN AWFUL LOT OF DIGGING INTO WILLIAMSON INC.
THAT'S NOT EXACTLY A, UM, A COMMUNITY SPIRITED COMMENT, DO YOU THINK? WELL, UM, I MEAN IT, I, WELL THAT'S ENOUGH SET ON THAT.
I GUESS THEY'VE BEEN A VALID PARTNER FOR A LONG TIME.
I DON'T THINK ANY, WE'RE STILL FUNDING THEM, WE'RE STILL DOING THAT.
I'M JUST TRYING WITH THE COMMENTS THAT THE MARRIAGE HAS MADE.
WE, WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING BECAUSE THEY HAVE A REQUEST FORM DIFFERENT AMOUNT AND THAT IS OUR NEXT ITEM.
LAST YEAR'S WOULDN'T GO TO 20,000.
I THINK LAST YEAR'S WOULD BE PLENTY.
I MEAN, I'M FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK CONTINUING TO FUND 'EM AND BE A PARTNER THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN IS, IS GOOD.
BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD TREAT THEM AS A VALUED PARTNER, WHICH THEY ARE.
THEY'RE, I THINK WE'RE HOLDING TO OTHER DONATIONS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER? GOOD.
IF THERE'S CONCURRENCE, THEN WE WILL, UH, DRAFT THE BUDGET WITH $10,000 IN THAT SLOT.
AND THEN LAST, BUT CAN I MAKE ONE REQUEST THIS YEAR WHEN WE VOTE ON THESE? I DON'T WANNA DO IT IN BLOCKS.
I WOULD PREFER THAT EACH ITEM BE DONE BECAUSE OF THE CONFUSION THAT OCCURRED LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID IT IN A BLOCK VOTE.
SO, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE INDIVIDUALLY ON THE OTHER PROVIDERS AND THE RECREATION OF THE SCHOOLS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO EACH ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALLY AS A SEPARATE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
PARDON ME? I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I'D LIKE TO, BECAUSE WE MAY AGREE ON SOME AND DISAGREE ON SOME AND THAT REFLECTS IT ON THE RECORD.
SEEMS TO BE CONCURRENCE ON THAT.
THEN LASTLY, LEADERSHIP BRENTWOOD HAS REQUESTED $2,500.
YOU FUNDED THEM AT A THOUSAND LAST YEAR.
NEXT, THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.
CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE LOBBY DOWNSTAIRS AND HOW IT'S COMING? YES.
WITH OUR SECURITY CHANGES? YES.
UM, MS. SARA VAN WARMER STILL HERE? NO, SHE'S NOT.
UM, SO RECALL THERE IS A FAIRLY LONG LEAD TIME FROM CONVERGENT ON THE DEVICES THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TO, TO MAKE THOSE SECURITY CHANGES.
OTHERWISE, WE MOVED FORWARD, WE PLACED THE ORDER WITH THEM, BUT THERE'S A LONG LEAD TIME ON GETTING THOSE THINGS IN THE LAST SIMILAR ORDER THAT WE MADE.
TOOK THEM TWO MONTHS TO GET THINGS IN.
SO HAS THE ORDER BEEN MADE? YES.
IT'S AND WHEN WAS IT PLACED? I'M SORRY? WHEN WAS THE ORDER PLACED? UH, I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH IT ON THAT ONE, BUT IT WAS THIS WEEK RIGHT? RIGHT AFTER WE SPOKE LAST TIME.
SO TWO WEEKS AGO? NO, I'M SORRY, NOT LAST TIME, BUT RIGHT AFTER YOU MADE THE REQUEST.
SO, SO MAYBE A MONTH, LIKE MONTH MORE? YES, MA'AM.
HAS ANY MORE INVESTIGATING BEEN DONE INTO JUST PUTTING A CALL BOX OUT THERE? LIKE I REQUESTED WITH THE, LIKE A COLLEGE CAMPUS HAS THE BLUE LIGHT ON THE TOP.
YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND IT'S A DIRECT CALL TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IT'S OUTSIDE AND IT'S AVAILABLE 24 7 FOR ANYONE.
CAN I GET BACK TO YOU ON IT? I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT MORE HAS BEEN DONE ON THAT ITEM.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS JUST GOING FORWARD WITH THE LOBBY BEING OPEN AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE EVEN, WE GET THE RENOVATION ANYTIME, ONCE WE GET THE SECURITY ON THE STAIRWELLS OR WHATEVER, IT'S STILL LEAVING THAT LOBBY OPEN.
AND IF WE HAVE A NEW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE ANYTHING, UM, I MEAN WE'RE ASKING FOR GRAFFITI, LIKE ANYTHING, PEOPLE COMING IN USING THE BATHROOM AT ALL HOURS.
AND I JUST THINK WE'RE BETTER OFF TO HAVE A, A CALL BOX OUT.
WELL, UNDER, UNDER THIS SCENARIO, THE LOBBY WOULD NO LONGER BE OPEN.
SO THEN, THEN A CALL BOX WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEONE DID HAVE AN EMERGENCY, THEY WOULD HAVE A WAY TO COMMUNICATE.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING THE LIGHTING OUT THERE TOO.
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ON THE PARKING LOT.IT IT'S VERY BRIGHT WHERE THE FLAGS FOR THE FIRE OF THERE, THEY GO UP.
THEN AS YOU GO OVER, IF YOU HEAD TOWARD KAREN'S OFFICE AND YOU GO ON DOWN TOWARD CODES, IT'S DARK DOWN THAT WAY.
I HAVE SOME TREE TRIMMING THAT IS NEEDED.
ALTHOUGH WITH THE LEAVES OFF THE TREES, ARE YOU SEEING THE SAME THING? I THINK SO.
I, I DON'T EVER PARK DOWN THERE.
'CAUSE I USUALLY PARK UP AT THIS END.
BUT SOME OF Y'ALL PARK DOWN THERE, DOESN'T IT? FOR SURE.
AND WE'VE TALKED, JAY AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
I JUST THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VERY BRIGHT PARKING LOT JUST TO MAKE SURE COST OF A LIGHT.
BUT THAT, THE REASON I'M PUSHING THE CALL BOX IS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOT BEING HERE 24 7.
AND I MEAN, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE BEFORE WALKING OUT OF A MEETING AT DARK OR WHATEVER AND SOMEBODY HAS COME UP AND THEY'RE LIKE, HOW DO I GET, HOW DO I CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? OR HOW, WHAT DO I NEED TO GET SOME HELP OR WHATEVER.
AND IT STILL WAS KIND OF A MATTER OF, YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU USE THAT PHONE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
PEOPLE ARE SO TRAINED NOW AND THEY SEE THE BLUE LIGHT MM-HMM.
AND THEY PICK IT UP, THEY KNOW AND THEY CAN SEE IT DRIVING BY ON THE STREET.
THEY'LL KNOW I CAN GO GRAB THAT.
LAST MONTH I CAME BY AND I WAS PICKING SOMETHING UP, UP HERE AND SOME LADY STOPPED AND SHE SAID, THIS ISN'T THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ANYMORE.
AND WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING OF GO IN THERE AND DO THAT.
I JUST THINK IT'S SO PRESENT EVERYWHERE NOW WHEN YOU SEE THAT BLUE LIGHT ON TOP OF A CALL BOX.
HOW ABOUT I REPORT BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT BRIEFING ON OUR PROGRESS ON THAT.
NO, JUST, UM, SO KIRK ANNOUNCED, UH, FORMALLY, UH, THIS PAST WEEK.
UM, AND IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH HIM NOT BEING HERE THAN BEING HERE.
'CAUSE IT'D BE A LITTLE AWKWARD.
BUT, UM, IT WAS VERY, UM, I GUESS IT'S THE RIGHT TERM.
UM, IT'S VERY GRACIOUS OF HIM TO ANNOUNCE HIS, UH, HIS RETIREMENT EARLY, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO, UM, UM, A SEARCH FOR A NEW CITY MANAGER.
UM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA WANT TO GET, UM, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK, UM, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THAT.
AND, UM, GET THE, GET THE COMMISSION, UH, TOGETHER ON THIS, UH, GET STAFF, UH, TOGETHER ON THIS.
UM, AND I THINK YOU, KRISTEN, ARE GONNA BE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN, UH, UH, AS A CITY ATTORNEY IN TERMS OF, UH, HAVING TO COORDINATE ALL THAT AND HELP KEEP US, UM, TO WHERE WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH, UH, WITH SUNSHINE LAWS.
'CAUSE SOME OF THIS, UM, FROM AN INTERVIEW AND SELECTION PERSPECTIVE, UM, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND CORRECT ME, UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING I'M MISSING, PROBABLY DOESN'T NEED TO OCCUR, UM, IN PUBLIC SETTINGS.
BUT WE NEED TO BE VERY COGNIZANT, RIGHT? SO ANYTIME THERE IS MORE THAN ONE OF YOU, EVEN IN AN INTERVIEW TYPE PROCESS, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC MEETING.
SO YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, SO WHEN WE'RE INTERVIEWING SOMEBODY, YES, THE PUBLIC CAN COME MM-HMM,
IF IT'S MULTIPLE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE INTERVIEWING, UM, UH, OR IF IT'S, IF IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER THAT, UM, SAY THERE'S ONE PERSON, UM, THAT IS BEING INTERVIEWED AND DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS, UH, INTERVIEW THEM SEPARATELY.
UM, HOW DOES THAT WORK? I IF IT WERE ONE AT A TIME? I MEAN, HONESTLY, FROM A LAWYER'S PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
HOWEVER, IT'S THE WHOLE WANTING TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME INFORMATION.
UM, SO IT'S SIMILAR THOUGH, WHEN WE, WHEN YOU, WHEN WE INTERVIEWED OR YOU HELPED INTERVIEW THE JUDGES AND THOSE WERE RECORDED.
THOSE WERE PUBLIC MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY WERE A GOVERNING BODY OKAY.
BECAUSE THEY REPORTED TO YOU ALL.
SO THAT, THOSE WERE ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS.
WE HAD ONE, ONE CITIZEN ATTEND, ONE WHO HAPPENED TO BE MARRIED TO THE CANDIDATE
BUT, BUT ONLY, WE DID ONLY HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ATTEND ANY OF THOSE.
SO, SO EVERYTHING WOULD BE A PUBLIC MEETING IN THAT SENSE.
SO, UM, AND THERE'S SOME DECISIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE, UM, WHETHER THIS IS, UH, WE EMPLOY A A A SEARCH FIRM, WHETHER WE DO IT INTERNALLY, THAT TYPE OF THING.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE, UM, SOME OF THAT, UM, DELIBERATION.
UH, AND UM, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE THEIR THOUGHTS KNOWN TO YOU AND THEN YOU COMMUNICATE OUT? DO WE NEED TO DO IT IN A PUBLIC, UH, MEETING? I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO BE IN A PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE THE, AND I'M HAPPY TO, TO DISCUSS WITH EACH OF YOU TO, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY STILL BE CONFIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE REQUESTING LEGAL ADVICE FROM ME OR ME GIVING LEGAL ADVICE BACK TO YOU.
BUT AGAIN, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY IF YOU GUYS WANNA DO THAT AND THEN I COULD CONVEY IT AND YOU ALL COULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO HELP IN ANY WAY.
DO WE HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION? WE DO, YES.
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CAN WE, CAN WE JUST SHARE THAT AMONG US? 'CAUSE THAT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT.UM, BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE JOB DESCRIPTION HOLDS AND A COPY OF CONTRACTS FROM THE PAST.
WITH, WITH CERTAIN THINGS LEFT BLANK, OF COURSE, PERSONAL THINGS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK ALSO, I THINK CONTRACT, WE HAVE TO SEE, WE THINK KIRK HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB.
I THINK YOU SEEK FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHAT, WHAT MAKES HIM GOOD.
YOU KNOW, FIND MM-HMM,
AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH WORKING WITH ALL THESE GREAT PEOPLE WE HAVE TOO.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING THROUGH MY MIND.
AND THE MORE THAT EVERYBODY CAN COME TOGETHER, IF WE COULD HAVE A UNANIMOUS, UM, YOU KNOW, VOTE GOING, HEY, THIS IS, UM, UH, THE PERSON THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC, OR AT LEAST THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON HOW ARE WE GONNA DO IT.
I DO WANT TO THROW SOMETHING OUT.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO RESPOND, BUT WE'VE BEEN REALLY LUCKY SO FAR THAT OUR CITY MANAGERS HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY.
WE ONLY HAVE TWO STAFF, TWO DIRECTORS, AND THE CITY MANAGER THAT ARE CURRENTLY RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD.
NOW I KNOW ME THAT WE'RE GONNA YEAH.
WELL, UM, DAVID O'NEILL LIVES IN THE CITY.
BUT HE'S, HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT ON OUR STAFF ANYMORE.
NO, HE'S JUST, HE STILL IS, BUT I MEAN, BUT UNTIL HE'S RETIRED, HE'S CORRECT.
THAT SAME AS LIKE, WHEN, I MEAN, WHEN ANYBODY RETIRED, YOU SAID DAVID O'NEILL, RIGHT? YEAH, UHHUH.
BUT I THOUGHT HE WAS RETIRING IN SEPTEMBER.
AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? AT SOME POINT HE'LL RETIRE.
I THOUGHT HE SAID, WELL, I, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I THOUGHT HE HAD SAID THAT TO ME.
BUT ANYHOW, THEN WE HAVE FOUR, SO THAT'S EVEN BETTER.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY A LOT MORE MONEY IF WE WANT A CITY MANAGER.
I THINK THAT WILL BECOME A RESIDENT OF BRENTWOOD.
AND WE SORT OF HAVE TO MAKE UP OUR MIND WHETHER THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US OR NOT.
I THINK, AND TO THE RESIDENTS, WE, I DON'T, I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE.
IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE, WE COULD DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY STRAIGHT UP SALARY, BUT HELP THEM IN GETTING AHOLD ONE.
I'M JUST SAYING WE MIGHT HAVE TO ENTERTAIN A LOT OF THAT KIND OF THINKING.
BUT TO ME IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE PERSON WHO LIVES HERE IS A STAKEHOLDER IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE ONE WHO'S LEADING THE CITY STAFF.
UH, AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE SOME ALLOWANCES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
BUT WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US AND TO THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE WHEN WE LAUNCH THE SEARCH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THEY, WE'VE GOTTA KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT, WE HAVEN'T SETTLED ON SOMEONE WHO SAYS, WELL, I CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN YOUR CITY.
SO, AND THERE'S WAYS TO WORK LIVE IN OUR CITY.
AND THERE'S WAYS TO WORK AROUND THAT.
I MEAN, WE COULD WITHOUT ADDING A BIG SALARY AND ALL THAT COMES WITH IT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT'S GONNA COST US MORE MONEY THAN I THINK.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE THE COST OF HOMES AND HOW EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS.
AND SO IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE IT, JUST AS YOU WERE TALKING, I CAN HAVE THOUGHTS WHAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM TO BE A RESIDENT OF BRENTWOOD.
IT ALSO WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM TO COME WITH AN OUTSIDE OPINION AND LOOK AT IT MORE, UH, CRITICALLY OR SOMETHING.
SO I CAN SEE WHERE BOTH COULD WORK.
BUT I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP SO I COULD THINK ABOUT IT.
SO MAYBE RAVENWOOD RAVENS WOULD MENTION THE EXECUTIVE RESIDENCE,
TWO THINGS OUT, TWO THINGS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED.
BOTH KEN, YOU TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS AND QUALITIES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN YOUR NEXT CITY MANAGER, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY YOU DECIDE TO GO WITH YOUR SEARCH.
ARE YOU GONNA USE A PROFESSIONAL SEARCH FIRM, DO IT IN-HOUSE, OR POTENTIALLY REACH OUT TO MT A S? OKAY.
UH, MUNICIPAL TECHNICAL ADVISORY SERVICE CAN HELP COMMUNITIES DO THEIR SELECTION PROCESS, OR AT LEAST COME IN AND CONSULT WITH YOU AND KIND OF ADVISE YOU ON THE FIRST STEPS, EITHER MTAS OR PROFESSIONAL SEARCH FIRM, THAT ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY WOULD DO IS SEND YOU A QUESTIONNAIRE AND TRY AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU'RE, AS INDIVIDUALS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND THEN PUT ALL THOSE TOGETHER TO SAY, OKAY, THIS APPEARS TO BE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN YOUR NEXT MANAGER.
EITHER OF THEM COULD ALSO HELP ADVISE YOU ON WHAT DO COMMUNITIES AND, AND MPAS NOT AS MUCH AS A PROFESSIONAL SEARCH FIRM.
WHAT DO COMMUNITIES WITH OUR STANDARD OF LIVING AND OUR, OUR COST OF LIVING DO FOR SALARIES OR OTHER WAYS OF MITIGATING THE HIGH COST OF BUYING A HOME HERE? BECAUSE IT IS
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PROBABLY THE BIGGEST FACTOR YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH THE SALARY LEVEL VERSUS THE PERSON HAVING TO BUY INTO THIS COMMUNITY AT A MILLION DOLLARS OR SO? THAT'S A BIG ISSUE.
AND AT THE CURRENT SALARY, OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU POINTED OUT, COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE NOT THERE.
SO WHICH WAY YOU GO WITH THAT.
YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE HELP DETERMINE WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY DO.
'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT THE SAME SITUATION IN OTHER PLACES, JUST NOT THAT MANY IN TENNESSEE.
IF IN FACT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A CONCERN OF THE COMMISSION.
AND YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS THINK BACK TO PEDIATRICIANS, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY SERVE.
UM, SO THEY CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PEACE.
THEY'RE VESTED, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD GET EVERY SNOTTY NOSE AT THE GROCERY STORE AND THE, UH, THE BALLPARK AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
AND SO SOMETIMES THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, A BREAK.
UM, BUT, UM, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT.
I WANT OUR CITY MANAGER TO EXPERIENCE EVERY SNOTTY NOSE AND TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY THAT HE'S SERVING.
I JUST THINK THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.
SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW WHERE I STAND ON THAT.
I JUST THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY.
WELL, MTAS, MTAS THAT, THAT IN A WAY IS A FREE SERVICE.
OR IS THAT PAID FOR SERVICE? IT PAID FOR THROUGH YOUR TAX DOLLARS.
YEAH, BUT THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE.
AND THERE'S NO EXTRA, UH, ON US, ON US.
I MEAN, NO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE ASSIGNED.
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CONSULTANT THAT'S PARTICULARLY ASSIGNED TO US
BUT ANYWAYS, THEY MAY NOT BE THERE.
UM, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOMEONE WHO SPECIALIZES IN HR, PARTICULARLY JOHN GRUBBS, WHO COULD COME IN AND BE AN ADVISOR TO US.
THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL PROBABLY ON A SCHEDULE.
THEM, UM, CAN, CAN WE ALL COME TO AT LEAST A, A DIRECTIONAL AGREEMENT, UM, THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, UM, GO WITH AN IN-HOUSE SEARCH VERSUS A PAID, UH, PROFESSIONAL SEARCH FIRM? NO, I, NO.
THERE'S, I, I WOULD SEARCH THIS WHOLE COUNTRY TO FIND THE BEST ONE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN FIND IT RIGHT HERE.
AND I, I THINK WE NEED PROFESSIONALS WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING TO BRING US A BEVY OF CANDIDATES AND WE CAN NARROW IT DOWN LIKE WE DID WITH THE JUDGES.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO INVOLVE OUR STAFF IN THIS TOO, IN THE NARROWING DOWN PROCESS.
'CAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO BE SCARED TO DEATH.
THEY ARE LEAD LOSING THE LEADER THEY'VE HAD, AND THEY'RE DEPENDING ON US TO PICK THE REPLACEMENT.
WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN HOW WE DO THIS, AND WE NEED TO INVOLVE THEM.
I, I THINK WE CAN'T REACH ANY MAJOR DECISIONS TODAY ON WHETHER WE GO IN-HOUSE OR OUT OF HOUSE BECAUSE WE'RE SCRATCHING THE SURFACE AND WE NEED TO THINK THIS THROUGH.
AND I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE SOME GUIDANCE FROM KIRK.
SO, QUESTION TO HELP US THROUGH IT.
WHEN YOU SAY IN-HOUSE, YOU DON'T MEAN FILL IT WITHIN, YOU MEAN WE USE IT BUT STILL HAVE A COUNTRYWIDE SEARCH, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, SO, UM, WE HAVE AN HR DEPARTMENT, UH, THAT'S VERY GOOD.
UH, AND THEN THERE ARE, UH, CHANNELS THROUGH, UM, GOVERNMENT, UM, WHERE YOU CAN MAKE, UM, DIFFERENT RECRUITING POSTS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS LIKE THE RIM TEST.
AND, AND MAYBE, UM, I, I HOLD BRENTWOOD AT A, A HIGHER STANDARD THAN IT IS, BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK SO.
UM, I THINK BRENTWOOD IS A VERY DESIRABLE LOCATION WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE, UM, WANT TO BE HERE.
AND THIS WILL ATTRACT, UH, THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST, UH, I BELIEVE.
UM, AND WHO KNOWS, MAYBE THAT IS SOMEONE FROM, YOU KNOW, WEST COAST, FROM, YOU KNOW, SOUTH FLORIDA, FROM NEW ENGLAND, WHO KNOWS.
UH, OR IT COULD BE SOMEONE FROM WITHIN TENNESSEE.
UM, I, I JUST REMEMBER THE, WAS THE HR DIRECTOR THAT WE HAD A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS AGO THAT CAME AND STAYED ABOUT SIX WEEKS.
SAID, UH, OH, I DON'T THINK I LIKE LIVING HERE.
UM, I I, WE HAVE TO BE SO CAREFUL.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST HIRE WE WILL EVER MAKE.
AND BRENTWOOD HAD 11 CITY MANAGERS DURING ITS FIRST 20 YEARS.
AND THEN WE'VE HAD TWO, THE LAST FOUR, THE LAST THREE.
SO, UM, SO THE, SO THE COMMISSIONER DUNS POINT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND MAYOR GOMAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN TERMS OF DOING IT WITH OUR EXISTING IN-HOUSE STAFF VERSUS USING, UH, AN OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY, BUT STILL BEING A NATIONWIDE SEARCH EITHER WAY.
BUT I DON'T, UH, I WOULD RATHER WE NOT MAKE THAT DECISION THIS MORNING.
HAVING JUST HAD THIS PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT THE POSITION'S OPEN, I WOULD LIKE MORE TIME TO REFLECT ON THE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES.
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SOLUTION CAN WORK, BUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU DO IT WITH THE IN-HOUSE HR OR WITH THE THIRD PARTY SEARCH FIRM, THEY, THEY INVOLVE DIFFERENT COMPROMISES.AND I WOULD LIKE MORE TIME TO REFLECT ON WHAT THE COMPROMISES ARE BETWEEN THOSE TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO OTHER FOLKS AND HEAR INPUT FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
SO I WOULD RATHER WE NOT DECIDE THAT DIRECTION THIS MORNING AND HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO REFLECT ON IT.
UM, UNLIKE MT A SA THIRD PARTY SEARCH FIRM WOULD HAVE AN EXPENSE RELATED TO IT, AM I CORRECT? WOULD HAVE AN EXPENSE YES.
SO JUST SO THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S MM-HMM.
UM, PART OF THE DATA COLLECTION, I, I DON'T KNOW IF MTSS, YOU KNOW, CONDUCT THE SEARCH FOR YOU.
I THINK THEY JUST KIND OF CONSULT AND ADVISE YOU ON THE PROCESS FOR THAT.
UM, AND, AND I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND ME OFFERING IT.
THE ONE THING I WILL SAY, WHETHER YOU GO WITH A PROFESSIONAL SEARCH FIRM OR YOU DO IT IN-HOUSE, PROBABLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POOLS OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'LL GET THE OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF ICMA IS WHO THEY'RE GONNA ADVERTISE WITH.
THAT'S THE SINGLE BEST RESOURCE FOR ANYBODY LOOKING FOR A JOB IN CITY MANAGEMENT.
THEY'RE GONNA BE WATCHING THE ICMA JOB BOARD.
YOU CAN ALSO GET IT IN THE, THE DIRECT MAIL.
WE WOULD DIRECTLY CONTACT THE CITY OF 30, UH, STATE ASSOCIATIONS, TCMA EQUIVALENT IN ALL THE STATES THAT YOU CAN.
THAT'S THE ABSOLUTE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
WHAT THAT GETS YOU IN FRONT OF THOUGH, ARE THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A JOB.
WHAT IT DOESN'T GET YOU IN FRONT OF ARE THOSE WHO MIGHT, WOULD CONSIDER A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IF THEY SAW IT.
AND BECAUSE CLARK AND I AND EVERY OTHER CITY MANAGER WIND UP ON THESE MAILING LISTS FOR SGR AND A LOT OF OTHER PROFESSIONAL HEAD HUNTERS, YOU WIND UP GETTING THESE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE VERY, UM, PROFESSIONALLY PRESENTED, GLOSSY COVERS, OUR COMMISSION'S GREAT, OUR CITY'S GREAT.
YOU GET ALL THE GREAT SELLING POINTS PUT TOGETHER AND YOU LOOK AT IT AND GO, HMM, YOU KNOW, GOSH, THAT MIGHT, WELL, I'M NOT ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR A JOB, OR MAYBE I JUST GOT REAMED OUT BY MY CITY COMMISSION AND, AND MAYBE THIS LOOKS GREAT, BUT YOU YOURSELF WEREN'T ACTUALLY GOING TO THE ICMA OR THE STATE JOB BOARDS TO LOOK FOR THAT JOB AT THAT TIME.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
AGAIN, YOUR PREROGATIVE, WHICH WAY YOU GO, BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S SOMEWHAT OF AN ADVANTAGE.
AND I THINK ONE THING WE CAN REALLY THANK KIRK FOR, UM, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT HE'S DONE IN THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD, IS THAT HIS REPUTATION NATIONALLY IS REALLY STRONG.
AND SO HE WILL, PEOPLE WILL HEAR THAT HE'S RETIRING.
AND THEN THEY WILL BE ATTRACTED TO THE EXCELLENCE THAT KIRK BROUGHT.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WILL BE A REALLY BIG ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAVE KIRK TO THANK FOR THAT FOR SURE, FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE TO GO AHEAD OF HIMSELF AND LEAVE HIS LEGACY IN THAT WAY.
SO, KRISTEN, I HAVE A QUESTION OF YOU IN-HOUSE VERSUS SEARCH FIRM.
AND I DON'T KNOW QUITE HOW TO ANSWER THIS.
IF WE DO IT IN HOUSE, AT WHAT POINT DOES THE APPLICANT'S NAME BECOME A PUBLIC MATTER THE SECOND DO SUBMIT VERSUS DOING A SEARCH FIRM? OKAY.
AND EXPLAIN THAT TO EVERYBODY.
I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO EXPLAIN THIS.
THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ACTIVE CASE RIGHT NOW OUT OF KNOXVILLE WHERE THEY WERE SEARCHING FOR THEIR POLICE CHIEF.
UM, AND THEY USED AN OUTSIDE SEARCH FIRM.
UM, THE MEDIA SUIT, OR THE MEDIA REQUESTED ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS.
UM, THE CITY OF KNOXVILLE DECLINED TO GIVE THEM UNTIL SUCH CERTAIN POINT SAYING THAT THEY WERE WITH THE, UM, SEARCH FIRM.
KNOXVILLE ENDED UP GIVING THEIR RECORDS.
SO THE, THE LAWSUIT I WOULD ARGUE IS KIND OF MOOT.
THERE'S STILL NO FINAL DETERMINATION ON WHETHER OR NOT THOSE RECORDS WERE PUBLIC FROM THE GET-GO.
WHAT I DO KNOW FOR CERTAIN IS IF WE DO IT IN HOUSE, THE SECOND SOMEONE SUBMITS THEIR APPLICATION, THAT'S PUBLIC RECORD.
UM, AGAIN, THERE IS QUESTION AS AT, AT WHAT POINT WOULD A SEARCH FIRM WOULD THOSE RECORDS BECOME PUBLIC? I CAN'T SAY WITH CERTAINTY HOW THAT CASE WILL KNOXVILLE END UP BUT IN HOUSE AS SOON AS SOMEBODY APPLIES YES.
WHERE THEY'RE WORKING NOW KNOWS ABSOLUTELY, HEY, I'VE PUT MY RESUME OUT FOR ANOTHER JOB.
SO THAT COULD DISCOURAGE SOME GOOD PEOPLE FROM APPLYING FOR FEAR OF LOSING THEIR PRESENT JOB.
ALL ALL APPLICATIONS ARE PUBLIC RECORDS.
WELL, AS CERTAIN STUFF IS, IS REDACTED, DON'T WORRY.
SO AS SOON AS AN APPLICATION, UM, COMES TO ANY ONE OF US AS A COMMISSION, UH, THOUGH THAT BECOMES PUBLIC RECORD.
WELL, WHY WOULD WE BE GETTING ANY, I'M SORRY? DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WILL BE SENDING A MESSAGE? NO.
NO, THEY GO TO THE SEARCH FIRM, BUT AS SOON AS THEY COME TO US, OH, BUT THEN, THEN I WOULD HOPE THAT THE SEARCH FIRM WOULD NARROW IT DOWN AND BY THAT TIME, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LEFT PROBABLY DON'T CARE IF THEIR NAMES ARE OUT IN PUBLIC BECAUSE IF THEY DO, THEY'RE GONNA WITHDRAW 'EM.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES MAYBE OF A SEARCH FIRM IS WOULD ALLOW SOMEBODY TO LOOK INTO THE JOB? YEAH.
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MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO LOOK INTO THE JOB CONFIDENTIALLY WE GOT KIRK AND JACK AND YEAH, I MEAN, SO IT'S A MATTER OF DO WE THAT WAS PUBLIC RECORDS, WOULD WE WANT A SEARCH FIRM TO NARROW THINGS DOWN AND MIGHT NARROW SOMEBODY OUT THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S AN ISSUE.IF THEY'RE WHITTLING DOWN, THEY COULD WHITTLE OUT SOMEBODY THAT NOBODY, WE DON'T EVEN GET TO LOOK AT FIRST.
IF THE THIRD PARTY SEARCH FIRM MAYBE DOESN'T KNOW US, WELL WE COULD SAY NARROW IT DOWN TO 10, BUT IF THEY DON'T, WE WON'T GET SOME APPLICANTS MAYBE OF SOME GOOD PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID THAT IF IT BECOMES KNOWN, THEIR JOB HUNTING, THAT THEIR PRESENT JOB IS IN JEOPARDY.
WELL, I MEAN, BUT EVEN WITH A SEARCH FIRM COMPROMISE, EVEN WITH A SEARCH FIRM, IT'S AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GONNA KNOW.
BUT THEN BY THE TIME IT'S WHITTLED DOWN, IF THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN THE BALL GAME, WE KNOW THEY'RE SERIOUS CONTENDERS.
THEY'RE NOT JUST AN EXCELLENT CANDIDATE WHO WE WOULD ALL PICK, WOULDN'T BE AT RISK NECESSARILY OF LOSING THEIR JOB BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT CANDIDATE AT THE JOB THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN.
AND SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF THEM BEING CUT
SO I, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A, A VERY HIGH CALIBER PERSON.
AND SO IT TAKES US INTO A DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING ABOUT THINGS.
UM, AND IT'S A VERY PUBLIC, AND PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS INDUSTRY UNDERSTAND HOW ALL THAT WORKS.
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR NAME WILL BE PUBLIC THE MOMENT THAT THE EMAIL GOES OUT AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.
SO THEY, THEY, THEY LIVE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT ALREADY.
JACK, YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS.
TELL US FROM US A PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE.
I MEAN THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT 3000 CITY MANAGERS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY AND NOT THAT WE'D NECESSARILY HAVE TO PULL A CITY MANAGER IN, BUT GENERALLY IN THESE TYPE OF JOBS, HOW, I MEAN, BE HONEST.
HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT YOUR JOB HUNTING YOU'LL HAVE, YOU'RE EXCELLENT AS YOU SERVE.
YOU CAN HAVE A VERY HIGH PERFORMING CITY MANAGER, VERY HIGH PERFORMING, SITTING WITH A THREE, TWO CITY COMMISSION.
MANY COMMUNITIES ARE FIVE CITY COMMANDERS, A THREE, TWO OR OR FOUR THREE SPLIT.
AND THAT'S GONNA CREATE GRIEF FOR THEM BACK HOME WHEN THEIR NAME GETS OUT.
THAT AND, AND SO THEY WON'T PUT THEIR NAME IN IF THEY THINK I'M NOT EVEN ON THEIR SHORTLIST, BUT YET I'VE CREATED THIS PROBLEM BACK HOME.
BUT IF THEY KNOW THEY MAKE IT TO THE SHORTLIST, NOW THEY'VE GOT A DECISION MADE TO WITHDRAW MY APPLICATION.
OR DO I KEEP IT IN AND LET IT BECOME PUBLIC THAT I'M ACTUALLY OUT THERE LOOKING FOR A JOB? IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES TO THE SEARCH FIRMS. SOME STATES ARE DIFFERENT AND TENNESSEE MIGHT BE UP FOR GRABS ON, YOU KNOW, UNDECIDED ON JUST HOW PROTECTED THEY ARE.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO DON'T WANT THEIR NAME OUT WITH THAT FIRST ROUND OF CUTS.
VERSUS IF I'M ON A SHORT LIST, I'M WILLING THAT TO HILL ON WHICH I'M WILLING TO DIE BECAUSE I'M WILLING TO TAKE MY CHANCE ON BRENTWOOD, TENNESSEE.
LEMME LEMME THROW ANOTHER SEARCH FIRM BEFORE YOU GET TO THE POINT OF THEM RECRUITING FOR YOU.
YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, WE HAVE A GENERAL IDEA, I'VE HIRED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS I WAS IN, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU BRING A SEARCH FIRM IN AND SAY, TELL US WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, YOU NOT ONLY HEAR WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, BUT YOU START BUILDING THE ROADMAP OF WHAT'S GONNA BE DONE, THEN YOU CAN DECIDE IF YOU CAN HANDLE THAT ROAD OR IF THEY NEED TO HANDLE THAT ROAD.
BUT IF YOU JUST BRING A SEARCH FIRM IN AND SAY, TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN DO.
SHOW ME WHAT YOUR PLAN, TELL ME HOW YOUR ACTION PLANS, IT KIND OF CREATES A ROADMAP THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE TOO.
SO I SAY WITHOUT COMMITTING TO A SEARCH FIRM, I THINK YOU MIGHT TALK TO A SEARCH FIRM TO FIND OUT IF THEY'RE GONNA GIVE YOU ANY SECRETS OR ANY TRADE TRICKS OF THE TRADE THAT THEY USE TO JUST LISTEN TO THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER.
SO THAT WE MIGHT LEARN COMPLETELY, COMPLETELY FEEL 'EM OUT, SEE WHAT IT IS.
WE GOT A LOT OF THINKING TO DO, I THINK.
THANK GOD WE'VE GOT SOME TIME TO DO IT.
THAT'S THE ONLY GOOD THING I DO WANNA ADD.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU SAYING TOO ABOUT THE, UM, MAKING SURE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE INVOLVED.
'CAUSE THEY ARE VERY MUCH STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS.
SO I SPENT YESTERDAY CALLING ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
I HAVE ONE I COULDN'T TALK TO YET THAT I I'M CONNECTED WITH.
AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, I COULD TELL A SENSE OF, UM, APPRECIATION THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DO, BUT I SAID I I DO WANT DEPARTMENT HEADS AT SOME POINT INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT 'CAUSE WE HAVE A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP AND, UH, INTERACTION WITH CURRENT THAN THEY DO.
AND SO OUR NEEDS AND WHAT WE EXPECT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THEIRS.
AND SO I I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT.
I AGREE COMPLETELY THAT, THAT THEY NEED TO BE INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY JUST NEED TO ARE VERY IMPACTED AND THAT'S ONE WAY MT TASK CAN HELP ADVISE US I THINK ON STUFF LIKE INVOLVED IN THAT NATURE.
CAN, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A LOT OF ADVICE, I THINK FROM LOTS
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OF QUARTERS TO GET THIS RIGHT.WOULD YOU LIKE US TO MAKE THIS AN ITEM OF DISCUSSION FOR APRIL 4TH, YOUR NEXT BRIEFING? AND WOULD YOU LIKE US TO TRY AND LINE ANYBODY UP TO COME IN AND SPEAK TO YOU TO SEE IF JOHN GRUBBS ARE SIMILAR FROM MT.
TASKING COME OR LET'S SEE IF WE GET IN HERE.
YEAH, LET'S START WITH M WOULD YOU LIKE US TO TRY GET SEARCH FIRM, START, START WITH MTA AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF KNOW EVEN NEXT STEPS ON WHAT, WHAT OUR FOCUS NEEDS TO BE, WHETHER IN-HOUSE OR SEARCH FIRM AND LET'S PUT MTAS, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, UH, INFORMATIONAL MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BUDGET, UM, SESSION THAT STARTS AT 10 O'CLOCK THAT DAY.
WELL, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD WAIT LONGER THAN THE NEXT MEETING? I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE THEN WE'RE A MONTH OUT.
WHILE IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME, UM, BY THE TIME WE GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS RIGHT.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE SCRAMBLING AROUND AND THEN HAVE TO HAVE, UM, JAY FUNCTION IN AN INTERIM ROLE.
IT'D BE BEST THAT WE HAVE A OVERLAP.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE IN PLACE, RIGHT.
UM, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, AND HAVE SOME OVERLAP.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK KIRK SAID HIS RETIREMENT DATES LIKE FEBRUARY SOMETHING MM-HMM.
UM, BUT IF THE TRANSITION HAS OCCURRED, UM, LET HIM GO AND GO FISHING OR BIKE RIDING OR WHATEVER.
UM, BUT LET'S NOT LIKE PUSH IT TO THE DAY TO WHERE IT'S A CREATED CRISIS.
I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT WE CAN GET MTS IN ON THE FOURTH, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY TRY.
COULD THEY CALL IN IF THEY COULDN'T BE IN PERSON? I'LL LET THEM KNOW THAT'S AN OPTION.
IS THAT OKAY WITH Y'ALL? THAT'S FINE.
BECAUSE IT NOT NECESSARILY SOMEBODY LOCAL, RIGHT? CORRECT.