Mar 07, 2024 City Commission Briefing

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[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing March 7, 2024 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the March 11th Agenda, the below item will be discussed: Discussion of the distribution of the FY 2024 Budget Economic Development Support This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]

MOVING HERE.

HOPEFULLY.

I THINK WE CAN GET OUTTA HERE A LITTLE QUICKLY.

UH, WE HAVE NO EARLY MEETINGS NEXT MONDAY, SO SEVEN O'CLOCK THE ONE NIGHT.

WELL, THERE'LL BE NO TRAFFIC.

SO, UNANIM PLANNING COMMISSION.

WELL, IT'S, YEAH.

SPRING BREAK.

UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REZONING ON WALLER ROAD.

I THINK YOU ALL GOT BOB'S, UH, REPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY MEETING.

JUST HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE THERE WHO WERE, I THINK, SATISFIED WHEN THEY LEARNED THAT IT WAS SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE.

UH, NOBODY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS WE'RE FINE TO YOU ON MONDAY NIGHT.

UM, OKAY.

UM, AGAIN, JUST REMINDER TO SCHEDULE, SO THE PUBLIC HEARING NEXT MONDAY, AND THEN AT YOUR MARCH 25TH MEETING WOULD BE THE SECOND FINAL READ.

ALRIGHT.

UM, CONSENT AGENDA.

FIRST ITEM IS, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO OUR GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF TENNESSEE REGARDING THE PROGRAM WHERE THEY WILL PROVIDE SOME FINANCIAL, UH, PAYMENTS TO NEW LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HIRED.

UM, DOESN'T CHANGE.

UH, AND JIM'S YEAH, JIM'S HERE.

DOESN'T CHANGE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS OR ANYTHING.

I THINK IT'S JUST SOME WORDING IN THE, IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE.

SO, UM, I THINK WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OFFICERS WHO QUALIFY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN ANY PAYMENTS YET.

IS THAT RIGHT? WE'VE SUBMITTED ALL PAYMENTS YET, BUT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL TO QUALIFY.

SO AGAIN, GOOD PROGRAM NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE, THE BASICS OF IT FROM OUR STANDPOINT OF DOLLARS.

JUST SOME CONTRACTUAL WORDING AMENDMENTS THERE.

UH, THANK YOU.

I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A MEETING IF YOU NEED TO GO, YOU CAN GO .

UH, ITEM TWO IS AUTHORIZING OUR COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL PROCESS FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE PAVILION AT CROCKETT REPLACING, UH, BRENT VALE AND CABIN TALKED ABOUT THIS A BIT.

JAY, JUST KIND OF, THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN WHAT WE HAVE LAID OUT, RIGHT? YES.

WHEN WE, UH, LAST SPOKE TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER, WE'VE MENTIONED IT WOULD BE A TWO STEP PROCESS.

AND THEN THIS WILL BE THE CONTRACTOR WHO WILL KIND OF BE THE INTEGRATOR TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER, INCLUDING THE MAIN PART OF THE PAVILION, WHICH IS BEING PROVIDED BY OTHERS, UM, HOMESTEAD TIMBER FRAMES.

AND SO THIS IS JUST ALLOWING US TO USE THE RFP PROCESS TO PROCURE THAT GENERAL CONTRACTOR TO THROUGH THE NEXT PHASE.

AND THAT CONTRACT WILL ACTUALLY COME BACK TO YOU.

VOTE ON THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZING THE, THAT SELECTION OR THAT FITTING PROCESS.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM THREE IS A REVISION TO THE JOHN P. HOLT LIBRARY POLICY MANUAL.

YOU RECALL WHEN THIS CAME TO YOU? JANUARY OR END OF THE YEAR, WHATEVER THAT, THAT YOU ALL ASK THEM TO? YEAH, I'M GONNA WANNA PULL THAT OFF TO CONSENT AGENDA.

THAT'S FINE.

UM, TO GO FOR THE PARK OR PARK BOARD, EXCUSE ME, LIBRARY BOARD TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ISSUE OF LIBRARY CARDS FOR RETIREES OR LONG SERVING EMPLOYEES.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE PART-TIMERS OBVIOUSLY DON'T RETIRE FROM THE CITY, ALTHOUGH I THINK WE'RE STILL USING THAT WORDING HERE.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING, OR WHAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH, UH, IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY EMPLOYEE WHO'S BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR 20 YEARS, UM, WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR, UM, FOR A LIBRARY CARD, A LIFETIME LIBRARY CARD AFTER THAT.

AND THAT 20 YEAR STANDARD IS THE SAME AS WE USE FOR OUR OTHER RETIREE BENEFITS LIKE HEALTH INSURANCE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

WELL IT'S JUST THIS ONE STATEMENT HERE, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S IT.

ALRIGHT.

I'LL ADMIT I'M BIASED.

BEING AN ENGLISH MAJOR AND AN ENGLISH TEACHER AND A LIBRARY CARD HOLDER SINCE AGE SIX, I LOVE LIBRARIES.

I LOVE BOOKS.

I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS TO BOOKS AS THEY CAN.

AND I WENT BACK AND I PULLED THE LIBRARY BOARD MINUTES FOR THEIR LAST ONE.

THEY DID THIS, AND IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE THE LIBRARY BOARD WAS SORT OF TOLD WHAT TO DO.

IT SAID, UH, THEIR MEET.

IT SAID THAT, UM, DIRECTOR EARL, AFTER I'M QUOTING HER MEETING WITH CITY ADMINISTRATION AND HR RE UH, RESULTED IN THIS FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATION.

SO HOW MUCH INPUT DO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE? OR WERE THEY TOLD THIS IS WHAT WE THINK YOU OUGHT TO BE DOING? WELL, IT'S LIKE US COMING TO YOU STAFF PRESENTED A RECOMMENDATION THAT HAD SOME BASIS CONSISTENCY WITH OUR OTHER RETIREMENT BENEFITS, WHICH IS THE 20 YEAR THING.

DIRECTOR WHO ONLY LEFT US TO BECOME STATE LIBRARIAN, IS NOT ELIGIBLE? MIKE HARRIS IS NOT ELIGIBLE.

OUR OTHER BENEFITS COST US A GOOD BIT OF MONEY.

TO ME, THIS IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT BALLGAME, BUT IF WE LIMIT, IF WE MAKE IT 20 YEARS, DO YOU REALIZE THAT OUR FORMER LIBRARY

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TRACY WINDROW IS NOT ELIGIBLE.

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE REALLY GONNA DRIVE BACK TO BRENTWOOD TO GET A LIBRARY CARD? I, I THINK THE COST IS MINIMAL HERE.

AND I JUST THINK IT'S A VERY NICE PERK THAT WE CAN OFFER.

I WOULD SUGGEST 10 YEARS UP TO DOC.

UH, AND I, I HOPE THIS IS NOT A TRUE STATISTIC, BUT IT'S ONE OF THEM FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, PARTICULARLY ON THE LOCAL LEVEL, THEIR RETENTION IS BETTER THAN ON THE FEDERAL AND STATE.

IT'S 6.9 YEARS THAT THEY USUALLY WORK WITH AN ORGANIZATION.

NOW, IN THE PAST WE'VE KEPT PEOPLE A LOT LONGER.

SO 10 YEARS, IF WE KEPT SOMEBODY 10 YEARS BASED ON THESE STATISTICS, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

NOW, I WOULD SAY IF WE WERE TO BE ABLE TO SWITCH IT TO 10, THAT THEY HAVE TO RENEW IT ANNUALLY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FOREVER.

OR IF THEY DON'T USE IT IN A YEAR, IF THAT'S NOT TOO MUCH WORK TO KEEP UP.

WELL, THAT ADMINISTRATIVE, THAT'S A LOT OF, I DON'T, THAT MIGHT BE A NIGHTMARE TO KEEP UP WITH.

BUT I, I I AND WHAT'S DETERMINED, I GUESS USING WOULD BE CHECKING SOMETHING OUT WOULD BE YOUR BEST.

WELL THAT'S WHAT, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, COMING TO THE LIBRARY OR ATTENDING A PROGRAM OR ANYTHING YOU CHECK OUT.

AGAIN, I'LL KEEP IT ACTIVE, BUT IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S TOO MUCH PAPERWORK TO KEEP UP WITH, I, I COULD DROP THAT.

I WANT TO COMPROMISE.

BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE INELIGIBLE.

I KNOW THESE WERE VERY GOOD EMPLOYEES.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA TELL CHUCK CHERYL, HE CAN'T HAVE A BRENTWOOD LIBRARY CARD.

WELL, AND HE HAS NOT SAID A WORD TO ME.

HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS DISCUSSION.

I MEAN, HAVE SUSAN HELP ME REMEMBER, BUT I THINK THE LIBRARY BOARD IN GENERAL WAS FINE WITH LESS.

THEY DEFAULTED TO THE 20 BECAUSE OF A RECORD KEEPING EASE ON HR AND AN ADMINISTRATION TO, TO DO IT.

I THINK THEY WERE FINE.

THEY DIDN'T WANNA DO AS LITTLE AS FIVE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

IT WAS MORE AROUND THE 10 OR 15 WAS A, WAS A TALK THAT EVERYBODY WOULD BE FINE WITH.

BUT IT KIND OF FELL BACK TO, WELL, 20 YEARS WAS GONNA BE EASIER FOR HR AND THAT'S WHEN A LOT OF THE BENEFITS WASN'T A RECORD KEEPING THING AS THEY'RE INVOLVED.

AND THERE'S NOT, UH, , I MEAN, FOR HR IT'S NO DIFFERENT.

WELL, FOR HR I CANNOT SPEAK, BUT FOR THE, FOR HR, I CANNOT SPEAK.

WELL, THAT WAS WHAT SHE JUST SAID.

IT WAS DUE TO HR.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

BECAUSE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT FELL IN PLACE AT THE 20 YEAR.

WE WERE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT.

HOWEVER, FOR THE LIBRARY, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN REGISTERING ANYBODY.

UH, WITH A LIBRARY CARD, IT TAKES FIVE MINUTES, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO RENEW IT EVERY YEAR.

AND WE TREAT 'EM NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER RESIDENT OF OUR, OF OUR RESIDENT OF OUR CITY.

WHAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IS, IS IF YOU PUT IN THE USE REQUIREMENT, WHICH I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT EITHER, IF IT'S WORTH IT TO THEM TO HAVE IT, THEN WHETHER THEY USE IT OR NOT IN ANY GIVEN ORDER, ME SHOULDN'T DENY THEM THE NEXT YEAR WITH THE RENEWAL.

IF THEY'RE OUT OF CITY OR OUT OF COUNTY.

, YOU'LL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GET CHARGED A FLAG BACK ON THAT AND FLAG VEST.

WE CAN ACTUALLY CODE IT SO THAT I'M SORRY, I TALKING BETWEEN OR ACTUALLY, UH, WE CAN CODE IT SO IT'S A RETIRED EMPLOYEE INSTEAD OF JUST A REGULAR SPEAK.

A LITTLE LOUDER.

COME OVER.

COME RIGHT HERE IN MY EAR.

I NEED MY OWN PERSONAL INTERPRETER.

HR, A DA HERE, I NEED SOME HELP .

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY.

IT WON'T TAKE A LOT OF TIME FOR THE LIBRARY STAFF.

IT TAKES FIVE MINUTES TO DO A LIBRARY CARD.

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.

WE HAVE A CERTAIN SET OF VERIFICATIONS FOR ADDRESS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO.

SO, UM, IT, IT'S NO BOTHER FOR US TO DO IT AT ALL.

AND IT'S HARDLY ANY COST TO THE CITY AT ALL.

THE, THE THING WE'LL BE NOW IS HR WILL HAVE TO PUT IT IN, RECOGNIZE WHEN SOMEONE LEAVES US, WHATEVER IT'S 10 YEARS OR 15, WHATEVER Y'ALL DECIDE IS, FIGURE OUT HOW THAT NOTICE HAPPENS AND WHAT WE DO.

, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD, I'M JUST SAYING, BUT OUR BASIS FOR 20 WAS THAT'S OUR STANDARD AND CONSISTENCY.

AND SO WHY IS ONE RETIREMENT GONNA, I WOULD AGREE IF IT WERE EXPENSIVE.

NO, I, I UNDERSTAND.

AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I DON'T, WHEN WE LOOK AT RECOMMENDATIONS, WE DON'T SAY, WELL, THIS WILL DISCOUNT THIS EMPLOYEE OR THAT EMPLOYEE.

IT'S MM-HMM.

IS IT A RATIONAL STANDARD? SO THAT'S WHERE THE 20 CAME FROM.

BUT I WAS JUST SHOWING YOU HOW SOME EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL, FAITHFUL WOULD NOT EVEN BE ELIGIBLE.

YOU KNOW? SO FOR SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A LIBRARY CARD, SO ARE YOU BETTER WITH 15 YEARS? I LIKE 10, BUT I MEAN, I CAN COMPROMISE.

I'M NOT RIGID, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT RIGID.

, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TEN ONE

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EVER ACCUSED ME OF THAT.

WE HAD, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT 10 AND 15 MM-HMM.

, THEY WERE NOT, THE LIBRARY BOARD OF THE WHOLE WAS LIKE, FIVE IS TOO SHORT.

THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME.

WHAT? FIVE, FIVE WAS TOO SHORT.

OH FIVE IS DEFINITELY TOO SHORT.

UM, THEY THREW AROUND 10 AND 15.

WE DID .

WELL, I'LL THROW OUT 10 AND IF Y'ALL IN YOUR WISDOM MONDAY NIGHT WANT TO CHANGE IT TO 15, I CAN CONSIDER THAT.

SO NOW KEEP IN MIND THAT AT THIS POINT, IF YOU'RE, IF I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I DON'T THAT PROBLEM WITH IT BEING KIND OF RETROACTIVE MM-HMM.

, THEN I, I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE WILL KNOW ABOUT, WE DON'T, WE DON'T TRACK EMPLOYEES WHO ARE RETIRED, WHO HAVE LEFT US IN, IN THE 10 YEAR RANGE WHO AREN'T IN ANY OTHER WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY FROM A BENEFIT STANDPOINT.

SO IT'LL HAVE TO BE A WORD OF MOUTH OR WHATEVER.

I SEE CHARLES OVER THERE, HE'S GETTING A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN ON , ANOTHER VIDEO .

SO LET'S SAY THAT IN JEST, WHATEVER WE DO, LET'S JUST EXPEND THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF RESOURCES POSSIBLE, UH, TO ADMINISTER THIS.

I MEAN, WE'VE SPENT A WHOLE LOT MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS THAN YOU PROBABLY NEED TO.

SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, AND YOU ALREADY SAID YOU PULL IT OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA WHEN IT COMES UP, THEN SOMEBODY WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND IT TO 10 OR WHATEVER YOU DO.

AND THEN JUST LET US FIGURE OUT FROM THERE HOW WE, HOW WE TRY TO TRACK AND, AND WELL, I DON'T TO TRACK THEM IF SOMEBODY'S INTERESTED AND THEY READ ABOUT IT AND THEY WANT THEY'RE ELIGIBLE.

WELL, AND AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT YEAH, I MEAN THE VAST MAJORITY OF EMPLOYEES WHO LIVE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, PROBABLY, UNLESS THEY HAVE CHILDREN OR WHATEVER, AND SEE THE VALUE OF THAT.

'CAUSE THEY CAN STILL COME USE THE LIBRARY NO MATTER WHAT WITHOUT A CARD EBOOKS CHANGES.

IT DOES.

EBOOKS IS GONNA CHANGE IT.

BUT THEIR ACCESS TO EBOOKS THROUGH THE LIBRARY IS STILL VIA HAVING A CARD.

RIGHT? YES.

BUT THEY MIGHT HAVE IT.

YEAH, THEY MIGHT USE A LITTLE MORE, BUT NO, THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

JUST A COUPLE, COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS.

ONE IS, WITH THE REGULAR LIBRARY CARDS, IF THEY GO INACTIVE, DO THEY JUST DEACTIVATE? IS IT ALREADY PART OF THE SYSTEM? YES, IT'S ALREADY PART OF THE SYSTEM.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT USING IN A THREE YEAR PERIOD, WE DO AN AUTOMATIC PURGE.

SO, SO ANN'S QUESTION ABOUT DEACTIVATING, WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM BUILT IN, IN TERMS OF A THREE YEAR NATURAL DEACTIVATION.

IT'S NOT ONE YEAR, BUT IT'S ALREADY BUILT IN.

SO THAT, SO THAT ISSUE'S ALREADY ADDRESSED.

UM, AND I GUESS IT MAY BE A QUESTION FOR, FOR COMMISSIONER DUNN, IF, IF WE CHANGE THIS, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE LIBRARY BOARD, KINDA LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE RULES FOR THE MOUNTAIN BIKING, OR SINCE THEY ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY WERE FINE IF, IF IT'S 15, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM AT ALL.

10.

I'LL BEEN TO THEM TWICE.

THAT'S, I THINK I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST PUTTING IT ON THE NEXT LIBRARY BOARD FOR THEM TO RATIFY TO CHANGE.

JUST ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

JUST BE CONSISTENT LOOKING WHAT THE MOUNTAIN, SO IT'S IN THEIR MINUTES TOO OR WHATEVER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, KIND LIKE THE WAS SAYING, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A REALLY NICE BENEFIT.

I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA'S A FINE WAY TO PUBLICIZE THAT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M FINE WITH WHAT THE LIBRARY BOARD SAID AND IF PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO CHANGE IT TO 10, I THINK THAT'S A VERY NICE GESTURE AS WELL.

I'M ORIGINALLY FROM NORTH CAROLINA.

THANK YOU.

SUSAN, DID YOU WANNA INTRODUCE? WELL, YES.

EVERYBODY I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO MEET ARE NEW SUSAN CHILDREN'S SERVICES MANAGERS YOURSELF ORIGINALLY.

COME ON UP.

COME ON.

DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT COME UP.

UM, I'VE LIVED IN TENNESSEE FOR ABOUT ONE WEEK NOW.

I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE PART OF THE CHILDREN'S DEPARTMENT AND THE BRENTWOOD LIBRARY IN GENERAL.

OKAY, UH, ITEM FOUR AND FIVE ARE RELATED TO PARKS MOWING DAYS HERE IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS.

UM, IT WAS TIME TO RENEW OUR MOWING IN THE PARKS.

AND AS YOU KNOW, AND DAVE CAN EXPLAIN IT, EITHER WE HAVE KIND OF TWO TYPES OF MOWING, MORE OF A LAWN CUT MOWING, AND THEN MORE OF A, A ROUGH CUT BUSH HOGGING MOWING.

SO HE BIDS IT IN A WAY WHERE THE SAME COMPANY CAN BID ON BOTH OR ONE COMPANY CAN BID ON ONE OR THE OTHER.

UM, AND DAVE, HOW MANY BIDDERS DID YOU, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE BIDDERS FOR EACH, RIGHT? YEAH, WE ENDED UP HAVING FIVE BIDDERS.

THIS, RIGHT? YEAH, FIVE BIDDERS.

UM, SO THE FIRST ITEM IS THE REGULAR MOWING SERVICES FOR THE PARKS.

AND THAT'S RECOMMENDED TO YOU GO TO FIVE STAR, WHICH IS THE CURRENT CURRENT AND THEY WERE THE LOW BIDDER.

TO WHAT WE WERE PAYING FIVE YEARS AGO.

UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM, ITEM FIVE IS THE BUSH HOGGING SERVICES.

AND THAT'S RECOMMENDED TO GO TO GCO, WHICH IS ALSO THE CURRENT PROVIDER.

AND THEY WERE THE LOW BIDDER.

UM, THE, THE FINE MOWING, THE, THE, UH, LAWN CUT, I GUESS IS WHAT YOU CALL IT, IS THE HIGHER DOLLAR OF THE TWO TWO, ALMOST 250,000.

UM, NOTE THAT THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW.

IT ALMOST GOES BACK

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UH, WE CONFIRMED WITH THE BIDDER THAT THERE WASN'T SOME MISTAKE, UH, AND THEY CONFIRMED IT.

UM, SO WE'LL JUST CALL THAT TO YOUR, 'CAUSE THAT WAS NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED.

WE WERE ACTUALLY EXPECTING A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.

WHAT'S THE, UH, OUT FOR THE VENDOR? IS IT? WELL, IT'S A ONE, IT'S A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT, BUT IT'S AN ANNUAL RENEWAL.

SO AFTER A YEAR THEY COULD, THEY COULD BACK OUT.

I CAN'T SAY, HEY, WE'RE GIVEN 90 DAY NOTICE OR WHATEVER.

NOT WITHOUT A BID BOND DEFAULT.

WELL, ONCE THEY SIGN IT, YEAH.

SO IT'S A COMPANY WE'VE WORKED WITH FOREVER AND, AND, AND DAVE HAS A GOOD COMMUNICATION RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

AND TALKING WITH THEM, THEY, THEY BID IT LIKE THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT IT.

AGAIN, THEY, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ACCOUNT FOR 'EM.

GOOD.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO.

SO IT WAS A SURPRISE.

DOES THE EARLY SPRING IMPACT THIS ANY, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA START, WE'RE ALREADY CUTTING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAVEN'T CUT MY YARD YET, BUT WE'RE HAVE YOU I DON'T, IS THAT THEY'RE UNDER CONTRACT CURRENTLY UNTIL THE END OF JUNE ANYWAY, SO.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, SO THEY'LL BE CUTTING UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT UNTIL END OF JUNE.

THE HIGHER PRICE, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ONE WE'LL KICK IN AND THEN WE'LL GET A DISCOUNT STARTING OFF.

AND THE WAY DAVE STRUCTURES IT, IF YOU, IF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT, IS IT'S PER, IT'S A PER CUT PRICE.

SO WE SAY 2 48, THAT'S BASED UPON AN ASSUMED NUMBER OF CUTS.

COULD BE A LITTLE MORE IF RAINY COULD BE A LITTLE LESS IF IT'S DRY.

I MEAN, IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S RIGHT.

SO THAT'S AWESOME.

UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, AS, AS PART OF THE, UH, WE DON'T SPEND MUCH TIME HERE, BUT BOTH DAVE AND TODD'S NON-ROUTINE PLANS THIS YEAR, WE WERE LOOKING AT, IS IT, ARE WE AT THE POINT OF COST AND WHATEVER OF POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT BRINGING IN MOWING SERVICES IN HOUSE? UM, AND THE REALITY IS WE WERE WAITING FOR DAVE'S BIDS TO COME AND TO SEE IF WHAT THAT TRIGGERED.

AND AFTER THIS, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO, AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

SO, SO DID SOMEONE LEAK THAT DISCUSSION TO THE MOWING COMPANY? AND REALLY FOR DAVE, IT, I DON'T, WE HAD ALREADY DECIDED IT WASN'T GONNA MAKE SENSE FOR DAVE JUST BECAUSE HIS MOWING HAS TO BE DONE ON A SCHEDULE ON A CERTAIN TIME AND ALL THAT.

TODD IN PUBLIC WORKS AND RIGHT AWAY MOWING HAS A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY AND IT WAS ABOUT A, A NET NEUTRAL AND, AND, AND TODD'S THING.

AND SO THE IDEA BEING THAT IF YOU BROUGHT IT IN HOUSE, EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO WORK GREAT.

YOU KNOW, TURNOVER ALL THAT TO MAKE IT FUNCTIONAL AND IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

SO WE LOOKED AT IT, SEAN DID A BIG ANALYSIS OF IT AND CAME TO THE CONCLUSION, ESPECIALLY NOW AFTER SEEING THESE BIDS THAT IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

THIS MAKE ME CURIOUS ABOUT HOW MANY TURF THINGS DO WE HAVE NOW? ARTIFICIAL.

WE HAVE TWO BASEBALL FIELDS AND THEN TWO THAT TWO MORE COMING.

WHAT KINDA MAINTENANCE IS DONE ON THOSE? UM, VERY MINIMAL.

UH, WE'VE GOTTA RAKE THE RUBBER AROUND A LITTLE BIT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVE HAD TO FIX SOME FIREWORK, UM, REPAIRS.

BUT, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, NOT MUCH.

AS YEARS GO ON, YOU'LL HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MORE, BUT AS WHEN THEY'RE NEW, THEY VERY MINIMAL.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE I, I LOVE TEMPERATURE IF YARD.

YEAH, WE GOTTA BLOW LEAVES AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN THE FALL AND PERIODICALLY GET BUBBLE GUM, BLAH BLAH AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT NOTHING COMPARED TO REGULAR MAINTENANCE OF A TER.

SO THERE IS A SAVINGS THERE FOR SURE.

OVER THE LONG RUN OPERATION.

UM, SO THAT'S FOUR AND FIVE OLD BUSINESS IS THE SMITH PARK, THE MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAIL RULES THAT CAME, UH, THROUGH THE PARK BOARD ON MONDAY.

I THINK THEY'RE WATERED THE WAY WE HAD 'EM FROM THE LAST TIME WE TALKED.

SO THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD FOR YOU.

UM, ANY UPDATE ON CONSTRUCTION STATUS OR OPENING OR Y'ALL WANNA NOT TALK PUBLICLY? IT, IT IS BEEN PRETTY WET OUT THERE.

SO THIS DELAYED OUR SECTION OF IT, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

NO OPENING THAT IT, IT, IT IS THE WEATHER THAT KIND OF HAPPENED OVER THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF OR SO, THAT IT'S JUST KIND OF GOT THE CONTRACTOR A LITTLE BIT SLOW.

SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PUSHING THEM.

WE'RE LETTING THEM, YOU KNOW, WORK IN THE CONFINES OF THEIR CONTRACT AND AS SOON AS WE CAN, WE'LL SEND AN OPENING DATE, ANNOUNCE IT.

AND NOW THAT THE RULES WILL BE APPROVED, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET SIGNAGE AND ALL THAT STUFF UP TOO.

SO WE'LL BE .

AND, UH, DID I HERE THAT THE, UH, CITIZEN PORTION OF IT IS PRETTY MUCH COMPLETE? WELL, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE LETTER YET FROM SORBA, BUT I UNDERSTAND YES.

IT'S, IT'S JUST ABOUT THERE.

SO SOUNDS LIKE GREAT TURNOUT FOR THE WORKDAY LAST WEEKEND.

AND THEY'RE STILL DOING A LOT OF THE TRAILHEAD WORK TOO.

THEY'RE WORKING WITH SOME EAGLE SCOUTS ON DOING THAT, SO THAT'D BE A LITTLE BIT OF, A LITTLE BIT OF A PROJECT GETTING THAT DONE.

SO THERE'S STILL SOME WORK GOING ON.

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS STATE.

UM, NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT FOR THE MURRAY LANE, HOLLY TREE, ROUNDABOUT CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS BID, UH, ABOUT LITTLE OVER A WEEK

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OR SO AGO.

AND THE LOW BID IS THE NICKEL COMPANY AT ABOUT 1,000,550.

AND THAT IS INCLUSIVE AND THEY'RE GONNA TELL ME IF I'M WRONG ANYWAY, INCLUSIVE OF THE WATERLINE WORK, A PORTION OF WHICH WE'LL GET REIMBURSED FOR FROM CARPET VALLEY.

I THINK THAT'S SPELLED OUT HERE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE 110,000 FROM CAR VALLEY.

UM, INCLUDED OR NOT INCLUDED IN THAT BID AMOUNT IS A, UM, BONUS OF 75,000 IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THE ROUNDABOUT SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE AND OPEN TO TRAFFIC BY AUGUST 2ND.

UM, WHICH IS JUST RIGHT BEFORE THE START OF THE SCHOOL DAY.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE CLOSURE AND ALL THAT.

UM, SO THAT BID AMOUNT IS WITHIN, EVEN WITH THE, UH, THE 75 ADDED, IF WHAT WE WILL GLADLY PAY, UM, IS WITHIN THE, THE BUDGET AMOUNT FOR THE PROJECT.

UM, WE'RE ASKING, UH, WITH APPROVAL TO CONTRACT TO ALSO AUTHORIZE A, AN ADDITIONAL $75,000 AS A FUNDED CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE FOR STAFF TO APPROVE SMALLER CHANGE ORDERS ABOUT.

SO WE DON'T OBVIOUSLY HAVE A $10,000 CHANGE ORDER THAT'S GOTTA WAIT TWO WEEKS TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

UH, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S SOMETHING MORE SIGNIFICANT THAT ENDS UP EXCEEDING COLLECTIVELY OVER THAT $75,000 ALLOWANCE, THEN UH, OBVIOUSLY THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF ANY CHANGE ORDERS OF THAT SCALE.

UM, WE ARE, AND I'LL TALK IN JUST A SECOND, WE ARE, IF YOU REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THE ARP FUNDING AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT SOME DEADLINES COMING UP AND SO WE WERE, WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND MOVING SOME OF THAT MONEY TO PROJECTS AND THEN MOVING THAT ALREADY OTHER MONEY PROJECTS.

SO THIS IS ONE.

SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING AS PART OF THIS THAT WE CLARIFY THAT THIS, UH, CONTRACT WOULD BE FUNDED UNDER THE ARP FUNDS.

UM, SO THAT'S JUST FOR THE RECORD AND FOR FINANCE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT THAT WAY.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I'M, I'M GONNA GO OVER KIND OF WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE ARC FUNDS IN GENERAL, BUT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTRACTOR OR ANYTHING? THIS ISN'T A CONTRACTOR WE'VE WORKED WITH BEFORE.

SARAH CATHERINE HAS WORKED WITH THEM IN SPRING HILL WHEN SHE WAS DOWN THERE.

UM, THEY'VE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN TERMS OF EXPERIENCE AND EQUIPMENT THEY HAVE AND ALL THAT.

SO WE HAVE NO REASON NOT TO RECOMMEND THE NO BIDDER OR THE LOW BIDDER.

SO WITH THE, AGAIN, THE 75 BONUS, IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT WOULD PUT IT AT 1,000,006 24.

UH, AND AGAIN ABOUT 110 OF THAT, IF IT ALL WORKS OUT THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED WOULD BE ACTUALLY BE REIMBURSED FROM HARFORD VALLEY.

DO WE EXPECT A BIG WATER DELAY FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA DURING THE SWITCHOVER? WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY NO, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU NEVER KNOW IT, IT'D BE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER WATER LINE EXTENSION.

THE THE WORK IS, UH, FOR HARPETH VALLEY, UH, UTILITY DISTRICT, BUT THE CONTRACTOR'S GONNA DO THE WORK, THEY'LL BE REIMBURSING US.

UM, YOU NEED WATER OUTAGES I'M SURE WOULD BE THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE NOTIFIED, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, WILL THE RESIDENTS BE NOTIFIED PRIOR TO THE WORK? OKAY.

IF IT'S GONNA CAUSE THAT EXPECT, OKAY.

I MEAN, NORMALLY THE WAY WE WOULD DO IT, I KNOW IF IT'S OUR PROJECT, SHE PUT ALL THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE IN FIRST, THE OLD INFRASTRUCTURE SERVING AND THEN YOU, THERE MAY BE A DAY WHERE YOU'RE SWITCHING, SO THERE MAY BE A FEW HOURS IN A DAY IN A PERFECT SCENARIO.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO, AND WE'RE IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH ALL THE RESIDENTS I HAD TO ACQUIRE RIGHT AWAY FROM 'EM.

SO THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF TIMELINES AND WE'LL HAVE ALL THAT.

AND IT WOULD ONLY HOW MANY, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY RESIDENTS IT WOULD AFFECT THAT SWITCHOVER? NO, BECAUSE IT COULD AFFECT 500 HOMES.

YES MA'AM.

BEYOND JUST THE ONES RIGHT THERE.

ROAD PROJECT I KNOW AND IT SEEMS KINDA SIMPLE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE, OH MY GOODNESS, IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A WHILE BACK.

SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO STAY IN CONTACT WITH THE SCHOOL 'CAUSE THE SCHOOL'S NOT ALLOWED TO BE OPEN IF THEY HAVE NO WATER.

YEAH, AND WE'VE QUEL I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT UM, YOU KNOW, WITH PRECON, WHEN WE HAVE, WHEN THE CONTRACTS ARE, IS SELECTED, WELL PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING WITH THEM AND WE GO OVER ALL OF THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, NOTIFY THE SCHOOLS ABOUT ANY ALTERATIONS IMPACTS TO BUS ROUTES, CERTAINLY ANY WATER SERVICES, UH, ANYTHING, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE THAT WILL AFFECT RESIDENTS OR THE NEARBY BUSINESSES OR INSTITUTIONS IN THIS CASE.

AND, AND MAYBE HARPETH VALLEY HAS A PLAN.

THEY KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES THEIR SCHOOLS ARE FED FROM THAT SPOT, I'M SURE.

SO I'M SURE THEY COULD COMMUNICATE THAT, WHO WILL BE IMPACTED.

SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF THAT.

AND WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED AS WE GET TOWARDS THAT.

AS AGAIN, AS, AS I SAID, ONCE WE AWARD THE CONTRACT, HAVE A PRE-CON MEETING, START TALKING ABOUT SCHEDULING AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT TARGETED CLOSURE DATE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNICATION, CHARLES AND ALL THEM TO BE PUTTING OUT.

SO WE'LL OBVIOUSLY KEEP YOU UP TO SPEED ON IF THAT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT.

IS IT JUST ME OR DOES IT SEEM LIKE THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING ? IT HAS BEEN.

UM, YEAH, IT'S LIKE ANY

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SOME THINGS ARE OUTTA YOUR CONTROL.

UM, SO JUST REAL QUICK, KIND OF AN UPDATE AS WE HEAD INTO THE CIP HERE IN A FEW MORE WEEKS, YOU'LL START KIND OF JUST A REMINDER ON THE ART FUNDS AND KIND OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING HERE IS, CAN WE BACK UP REAL QUICK? I'M SORRY.

FOR NEW BUSINESS TWO, UM, HOLLY AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT UM, NORMALLY WE HAVE THE INCUMBENTS LISTED ON THIS SHEET AND IT WASN'T SO HOLLY'S FIXED IT, BUT, UM, THINK THAT'S BEEN FIXED FOR THE INCUMBENT OF WHO'S ON BCA? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

I WAS ACTUALLY, OH, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, NO, THAT'S FINE.

I WAS JUST GONNA COVER THAT.

THAT'S FINE.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S, YOU GOT THAT, SO YEAH.

THANK YOU.

OH, AS FAR AS WHICH ONES ARE COPIED? ROTHMAN LAN OR INCUMBENT, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO YOU GOT THOSE TWO, THREE APPLICANTS AND YEAH, NUMBER ONE AND THREE ON YOUR LIST ARE, SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

SORRY.

NO, I'M DON'T, I'M, UH, JUST KIND OF OUR FUNDS.

'CAUSE AGAIN, WE GOT A COUPLE PROJECTS COMING.

THIS IS THE FIRST OF WHAT, SO WE HAD ABOUT 12.7 MILLION AND WE HAVE, WHAT WE HAVE COMMITTED SO FAR WAS THE 5 MILLION FOR THE FIRST SEWER EQUALIZATION TANK THAT'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN SPENT.

WE HAD ALSO HAVE COMMITTED 1.5 MILLION, UH, FOR TODD ACROSS THE CITY.

THE DRAIN PIPE REHAB WORK, THE LINING WORK, SOME OF IT'S DIGGING UP AND REPLACING.

UM, AND THIS SHOWS WE'VE ONLY SPENT 68,000.

HE, HE, THERE'S A BUNCH OF SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE OR UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, BUT THERE'S ABOUT 1.4 AS OF THIS NUMBER REMAINING ON THAT.

AND, AND WE WOULD PROPOSE TO KEEP THAT MONEY THERE 'CAUSE WE KNOW IT'S ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT.

SO WE'VE MET THE OBLIGATION DEADLINE AND IT WILL BE SPENT BEFORE 2026 AND THEN WE HAD 660,000 FOR THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN, BUT WE HAD ONLY SPENT 431 OF THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAD COMMITTED.

THIS IS WHAT HAD BEEN SPENT.

UM, SO IF WE GO DOWN HERE, AGAIN, THAT'S OUR ORIGINAL ALLOCATION RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE HAD ABOUT $500,000 OF INTEREST EARNINGS 'CAUSE INTEREST RATES ARE UP.

WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.

BUT THAT'S AS, AS OF THOSE NUMBERS.

IF YOU SUBTRACT THEN WHAT WE SPENT TO DATE, WHICH IS THAT FIVE 50 OR 5.5 MILLION AND THE REMAINING 1.4 MILLION ON THAT, THAT LEAVES ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 6.2 MILLION THAT WE NEED TO TRY TO GET ALLOCATED, UH, BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR HERE TOO.

SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE, YOU JUST DID THIS AGREEMENT WOULD BE THE 1,000,650, UM, EXPENSIVE AND THEN WINDY HILL PARK.

WE OPENED THOSE BIDS TOMORROW, DAVE? YES SIR.

UM, AND THIS IS THE, I THINK, ENGINEERED ESTIMATES OF THAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 6.2 MILLION.

UM, SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, DEPENDING ON THE FINAL WINDY HILL PARK BIDS, WE WILL RECONCILE WHETHER WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY ADDED TO A, A PROJECT HERE OR THERE.

BUT WE CAN DO THAT BEFORE THE DECEMBER 24 AT DEADLINE.

SO THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE 6.2 MILLION THAT WAS ALREADY IN FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT? UM, THOSE PROJECTS.

AND OUR RECOMMENDATION HERE WOULD BE IN WINDY HILL WE HAD 3,000,250.

UH, THAT WAS A BOND ISSUE.

UM, AND THAT BOND ISSUE INCLUDED RAGSDALE ROAD AND DEVELOPMENT OF WINDY HILL PARK.

SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING THAT BOND MONEY AND JUST PUTTING IT TO RAGSDALE ROAD, UH, WHICH FREES UP THEN SOME OTHER MONEY THAT WAS PROGRAMMED FOR RAGSDALE ROAD AND THEN THAT LEAVES ABOUT 2.9 MILLION AND, AND, AND WE'RE JUST PROJECTING TO HOLD THAT INTO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND PENDING RACKET FACILITY DECISIONS OR ANY, ANY OTHER PROJECTS, UM, FOR THAT 6.2 MILLION.

SO MOVING OUR TO THOSE TWO PROJECTS AT 6.2 AND THEN MOVING 6.2 OF OTHER MONEY, UH, SOME TO RAGSDALE AND SOME JUST KIND OF BEING HELD, UH, TARGETED FOR THE RACKET FACILITY, DEPEND ON THE FINAL DECISIONS ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

AND WHAT WAS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS IN TERMS OF 3.25 TO RAGSDALE INSTEAD OF 4.25 OR 1.25? CAN YOU JUST GIVE US SOME MORE THOUGHT CONVERSATION? THAT'S JUST, THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED IN THE BOND ISSUE PLAN WAS 3.25.

SO I MEAN WE JUST, YEAH, SO THE ORIGINAL, AND KAREN'S NOT HERE.

I THINK THE ORIGINAL BOND ISSUE WAS 8 MILLION, 3 MILLION OF THAT WAS FOR THE STREETLIGHT PROJECT.

THE OTHER FIVE WAS FOR A COMBINATION OF RAGSDALE AND WINDY HILL.

SIMILAR TO OUR MONEY.

THE SOONER WE SPEND THE BOND MONEY, THE BETTER.

SO WE DON'T HAVE AN ARBITRAGE SITUATION.

THAT WINDY HILL WAS LIKELY COMING QUICKER THAN RAGSDALE IN TERMS OF SPENDING SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY, WE HAD PUT A LARGER PORTION OF THAT 5 MILLION TO WINDY HILL.

SO WE HAD ORIGINALLY KNOWING

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SO WE COULD HAVE, WE COULD DO, UM, WE COULD REDUCE THIS NUMBER AND PUT MORE MONEY TO, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO.

I THINK THAT IT'S JUST SHIFTING WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY DEDICATED BOND FUNDS.

I DUNNO IF I CLEARLY ANSWERED THAT.

I PROBABLY NEED TO BREAK DOWN THE BOND ISSUE FOR YOU A LITTLE MORE, BUT WELL, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN I JUST MORE FOR THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN HEAR WHAT THE STRATEGY IS.

BUT YEAH, SO AGAIN, OUT OF THAT 5 MILLION BOND ISSUE, 3,000,250 WE HAD PUT TO WINDY HILL AND 1,000,750 TO RAGSDALE.

AND NOW WE'RE JUST PUTTING THE FULL 5 MILLION TO RAGSDALE, WHICH AGAIN, THAT INDIRECTLY FREES UP SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TOO IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND.

SO IF WE GET GOOD BIDS FOR WINDY HILL, THAT CONTRACT WILL BE COMING TO YOU THEN PROBABLY FIRST MEETING IN APRIL.

IF ALL, PROBABLY NOT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL, THEN IT WILL COME WITH A SIMILAR RECOMMENDATION TO, TO FORMALLY ACKNOWLEDGE ARC FUNDING GOING TOWARDS IT ALSO.

SO IS A 4.5 FOR WENDY HILL KIND OF HEAVILY PADDED, ARE YOU EXPECTING IT TO BE A LITTLE LESS OR THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CONTINGENCY IN THERE AND OUR ENGINEERS, WHEN THEY GAVE US THAT NUMBER, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO, SAID THAT THEY WERE CONSERVATIVE IN IT, BUT OKAY.

WHO KNOWS? HOPEFULLY NOT OVER THAT.

HOPEFULLY NOT .

HOPEFULLY NOT.

ANY QUESTION ON, AGAIN, I JUST WANTED, AS WE STARTED THIS PROCESS OF MOVING MONEY AROUND, I WANT TO KIND OF MAKE SURE YOU HAD THE FULL PICTURE OF WHAT THE PLAN WAS AS OF NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

TWO MEMBERS TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S IT FOR THE AGENDA.

UM, THE OTHER ITEM OF DISCUSSION, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER MINOR ONES, BUT THAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT WAS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY AT THE JANUARY BUDGET MEETING.

'CAUSE WE HAVE $10,000 IN THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT'S EARMARKED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS, UH, TRADITIONALLY BEEN TO WILLIAMSON INC.

'CAUSE THEY ARE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGENCY IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY UNDER CONTRACT TO WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

BUT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT BRENTWOOD UP AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN.

AND SO WE HAD COMMITTED THAT WE WOULD NOT WRITE THAT CHECK UNTIL WE ALL HAD ANOTHER DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL.

AND I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF THERE'S A, A MAJORITY OF YOU THAT ARE WILLING OR OKAY WITH US PROCEEDING WITH THIS PAYMENT TO WILLIAMSON INC.

FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, NOT NEXT YEAR WE'RE TALKING OR, OR WHAT THE WISH OF THE COMMISSION IS.

YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UM, WHAT'S THE RIGHT AMOUNT? BRENTWOOD UP THE, UM, BRENTWOOD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

YEP.

SO IS BRO UP ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE MONEY UNDER STATE LAW? I KNOW WE HAD A CONVERSATION IN THE COMMISSION MEETING.

WE WERE DOING THE GUIDELINES ABOUT NEEDING A YEAR OF FINANCIALS AND NEEDING OTHER INFORMATION.

UH, I THINK SOME PEOPLE SPOKE.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS NECESSARILY A CONVERSATION.

THERE WERE SOME, UH, THINGS THAT WERE SAID.

UH, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, BRENT WAS UP, UH, STARTED, UH, AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE WE'LL NEED TO RESEARCH, BUT STARTED IN, UH, EARLY, UM, 2023.

UM, IF WE CAN, UH, DO THE RESEARCH AND FIND OUT EXACTLY, UH, WHEN THAT ORGANIZATION WAS, UH, WAS FORMED.

AND, UM, YEAH, I DON'T, I AGAIN, AND I DON'T, AGAIN, THIS IS ME.

THIS IS YOUR ALL'S MM-HMM.

I DON'T THINK IT'S MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE OR HAS TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER.

UH, AGAIN, I THINK WILLIAMSON INC FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT BRENTWOOD UP.

AND WILLIAMSON INC.

DOES AS A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND A BUSINESS ASSOCIATION A HUNDRED PERCENT AND ALL THAT DIFFERENT THING.

YEAH, A HUNDRED PERCENT.

THIS ABOUT ANY GROUP, WHEN I GO ON THE WILLIAMSON INC SITE, I SEE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS LISTED.

SO I MEAN, I, I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO DECIDE WHAT THE, WHAT THE DISTRIBUTION IS.

AND YOU HAVE 10,000 IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

YOU COULD GIVE THAT TO WILLIAMSON, INC.

AND CHOOSE TO GIVE SOMETHING MORE TO BRENTWOOD UP IF THAT'S THE MAJORITY WILL OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.

WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD ON, ON COMING TO SOME RESOLUTION OF THIS.

I LOOKED UP BRENTWOOD UP BECAUSE I KNEW THIS WAS GONNA COME UP.

AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO SOUND NEGATIVE BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU WANT TO HELP, AND I TALKED TO SOMEONE WHO IS SORT OF AFFILIATED WITH 'EM, WHEN YOU WANT TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

IT'S ALWAYS A, OOPS, GOT CRAMPS IN MY LEG THERE.

UM, IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

BUT IT'S LIKE A STARTUP.

TYPICALLY WE DON'T GIVE MONEY UNTIL PEOPLE HAVE SOME KIND OF A TRACK RECORD.

AND I'D SAY

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I SEE STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS LISTED WHEN I WENT TO BRENTWOOD UP.

I DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS ARE.

DO THEY HAVE AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE? MOST CHAMBERS HAVE A PRESIDENT OR SOMEBODY.

I WANT TO SEE SOME OF THAT ON PAPER AT LEAST IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE ON THE WEBSITE BEFORE WE JUST GIVE MONEY.

I MEAN, LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 50 FORWARD, WE PUT THEM THROUGH THE MILL TO GET MONEY.

AND THAT'S ONLY FAIR.

I I MEAN THIS IS A STARTUP ORGANIZATION.

ANYBODY COULD GET A 5 0 1 COME TO US AND SAY I'M DOING COMMUNITY WORK.

I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THE ROTARIES COULD DO THAT OR THE BRENTWOOD WOMEN'S CLUB.

I MEAN, WE NEED SOME KIND OF A TRACK RECORD OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE, I THINK.

AND THEN I'LL BE GLAD TO GIVE 'EM SOME MONEY IF THEY COME WITH A TRACK RECORD.

I THINK THEY NEED ANOTHER YEAR UNDER THEIR BELT TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH AND THEN TAKE A REAL HARD LOOK AT IT.

BECAUSE IF, IF THEY CAN MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO BRENTWOOD, THEN I'M FINE WITH HELPING THEM.

BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T SEE ANYTHING EXCEPT A NAME AND A MISSION STATEMENT.

THEY'VE GOT A FEW PROGRAMS I I HAVEN'T BEEN TO.

WELL, SO THERE'S THE WOMEN'S CLUB.

I MEAN THAT'S NOT A REASON TO GIVE MONEY TO PEOPLE.

BUT YOU WERE SAYING YOU HADN'T SEEN ANYTHING.

I'M JUST SAYING THEY HAVE HAD SOMETHING.

NO, BUT I, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO 'EM.

BUT WHO ARE THEIR BOARD OF S CAN THEY BRING US, CAN YOU, CAN WHOEVER'S IN THE ORGANIZATION COME PRESENT A BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND WHO THEIR PRESIDENT IS? I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S NOT AN UNREASONABLE THING TO ASK WHEN WE'RE ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO PROVIDE THEIR TAX DOCUMENTS FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, YOU KNOW, TO ASK THAT.

DID YOU ASK THEM FOR THAT? DID YOU ASK THEM FOR THAT AND THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE IT OR? I CAN'T HEAR YOU MARK.

I'M SORRY.

DID YOU ASK THEM FOR THAT? AND THEY HAVEN'T PROVIDED IT? I HAVEN'T ASKED.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

LET'S ASK THEN I'LL CONSIDER IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, WELL I BELIEVE THEY WILL BE APPLYING FOR NEXT YEAR'S FUNDING AND THAT APPLICATION DEADLINE IS NEXT FRIDAY, I THINK THE 15TH.

ON TEAM STAFF THAN IT WAS TO OUTSOURCE AND, AND WORK IN A PARTNERSHIP, I THINK THAT'S HOW THEY GOT TOWARDS THE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU COULD, WE CAN SEE WHAT THEY SUBMIT FOR THAT.

AND THEN, YEAH.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S FOR NEXT YEAR'S.

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T CONSIDER THAT INFORMATION FOR WHATEVER YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO THIS YEAR, BUT THAT WOULD AT LEAST BE SOME INFORMATION WE HAVE FROM THEM.

AND THEN YOU COULD ASK FOR MORE IF THAT'S, IF THERE'S MORE NEEDED.

I'M NOT SAYING ABSOLUTELY NO, I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T SEE ANYTHING TO EVEN LOOK AT EXCEPT A NAME AND A FEW PROGRAMS. AND THERE ARE LOTS OF ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY WHO'VE DONE THAT.

BUT IF THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND HELP SMALL BUSINESSES SAYS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

LIKE I DON'T WANT ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMING TO BRENTWOOD EITHER.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT SOME CAN BE DIRECTED OUR WAY, BUT WE KNOW WHAT OUR ZONING ALLOWS AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT HEAVY INDUSTRY HERE AT ALL.

YOU KNOW? YEAH.

SO, BUT I I THINK THE EFFORT SHOULD BE THERE.

LINDA.

AND YOU RAISED A REALLY INTERESTING POINT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THERE, THERE'VE BEEN A LOT OF DEBATES ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S COME UP, YOU KNOW, AT AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FORUMS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AS PEOPLE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND AS PEOPLE TALK ABOUT SCHOOLS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN HERE FOR, FOR A LONG TIME AND BEEN PART OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, OVER, UH, I'VE BEEN DOING WHAT MY FOURTH DECADE AS PART OF THE, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER INITIALLY, UH, BOB WAS THE, THE GENTLEMAN WHO DID ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE COUNTY AND WAS ACTUALLY A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

AND PART OF THE REASON THE COUNTY DID THAT, IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE AREA WASN'T GROWING.

BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT JUST THE GEOGRAPHY HAVING 65 AND I 24 AND I 40 COME THROUGH MIDDLE TENNESSEE, THE AREA IS GONNA FAIRLY NATURALLY GROW.

BUT IT WAS GROWING THROUGH THE SEVENTIES AND EARLY EIGHTIES AS KIND OF A LOGISTICS HUB.

IF YOU TOOK A LOOK AT COOL SPRINGS, UM, LIKE WHEN THE TORNADO CAME THROUGH THERE IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES, IT KNOCKED DOWN WAREHOUSES.

IT DIDN'T KNOCK DOWN COMPANY HEADQUARTERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON THAT WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE GOT INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS AN INVESTMENT WAS TO TRY TO STEER THE SORT OF COMPANIES THAT WERE GONNA INVEST HERE AND STEER IT TOWARDS THE HEADQUARTERS AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE ENDED UP HAVING.

UM, SO WHEN BOB RETIRED AND THE COUNTY FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO HAVE AN

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AND THE, THE $10,000 THAT BRENTWOOD PUTS IN TOWARDS THAT PROJECT OF TRYING TO STEER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS HEADQUARTERS AND TOWARDS THE KIND OF BUSINESSES WE ATTRACT IS IN PART, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF OUR CARRYING OUR LOAD AS PART OF THE LARGER COMMUNITY.

AND THAT, THAT'S THE WAY I'VE ALWAYS SEEN IT.

AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE HEADQUARTERS HERE IN BRENTWOOD AND YOU KNOW, WE CELEBRATE 'EM FAIRLY REGULARLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COMPANIES COME THIS AREA THAT IS STUFF THAT I THINK IS NOW GROWTH AS PART OF THIS OVERALL LARGER EFFORT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF US CHIPPING IN $10,000, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY DOZENS OF BUSINESSES IN BRENTWOOD THAT CHIP IN MORE THAN THAT TO HELP OUT.

IT, IT IS KIND OF A, A TOKEN CONTRIBUTION TO BRENTWOOD TO HELP TOWARDS THIS LARGER COMMUNITY EFFORT.

AND PERSONALLY I THINK IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT AND, AND, AND IF Y'ALL DISAGREE, I'D REALLY BE CURIOUS.

'CAUSE IF, IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS INCORRECTLY, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT I'M MISSING.

BUT, UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO PRESERVE THAT COMMITMENT.

WELL CERTAINLY THE ONE THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT ON OUR BOOKS FOR THIS YEAR AND, AND STUFF THEY'RE ALREADY DOING.

BUT AS THEY CONTINUE TO RUN LEADERSHIP BRENTWOOD AS THEY CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE COMPANIES TO COME TO THIS AREA, I THINK HAVING A PARTNERSHIP WITH A LARGER COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT.

I, I DON'T DISAGREE.

AND I, I THINK $10,000 IS A MINIMUM DONATION AND I, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE ANY NEED TO STOP THAT.

I DO THINK THAT BRENTWOOD UP MAY BE ABLE TO, UM, PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL FOCUS FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER BUSINESSES.

AND AGAIN, A $10,000 DONATION IS NOT THAT MUCH MONEY WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR OVERALL BUDGET.

AND IF $20,000 TOTAL HELPS US STIMULATE BUSINESSES IN BRENTWOOD, I THINK IT'S A PRETTY EFFECTIVE WAY TO SPEND $20,000 10 ON EACH.

WELL, I KNOW THE MAYOR SAID WHILE AGO, HAVE I APPROACHED ANYBODY FROM BRENTWOOD UP? I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY FROM BRENTWOOD UP.

I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ON THEIR WEBSITE ABOUT WHO I WOULD APPROACH.

SO YOU SAID IT'S THE APPLICATIONS FOR NEXT YEAR ARE DUE MARCH 15TH, WHICH I THINK IS OKAY.

SO WE COULD JUST LET THEM SUBMIT THAT IF THEY'RE GOING THROUGH WAY.

WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH TAMELA AND SHE HAS ALL THE PAPERWORK AND WE'VE GIVEN HER SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME FINANCIAL FORMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

'CAUSE THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR THEM IS THEY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, A FULL YEAR'S OPERATION, BUT THE COMPTROLLER HAD SOME FORMS. SO WE'VE, SO I'M ASSUMING WE WILL GET SOMETHING FROM THEM.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT IT'S A STARTING POINT TO THEN GO BACK IF THERE'S MORE INFORMATION YOU WANT IN ANY CONSIDERATION OF CURRENT YEAR FUNDING IN ADDITION TO NEXT YEAR.

SO THAT'S A MATTER OF DAYS.

I THINK WE CAN WAIT TILL TAMELA AND THEM SUBMIT IT AND THEN WE THIS DISCUSSION.

WELL, YEAH.

ON, ON THE BRENTWOOD UPSIDE, I GUESS I'M ASKING, IS IT, IS THERE A, AND AGAIN, AGAIN, IT'S SEVEN AND SO I NEED FOUR TO KIND OF SAY PROCEED WITH THE WILLIAMSON INC CONTRIBUTION AS PROPOSED.

DO I HEAR YOU SAYING YOU WANT TO GIVE 10 TO BOTH KEN? YES, I DO.

I I THINK IT'S A MINIMAL DONATION FOR HOPING, UH, WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH.

I THINK THE ESTABLISHED WILLIAMSON IS, IS A PROVEN, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

BUT I ALSO THINK $10,000 COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN, ON A STARTUP AND HELP 'EM, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE OF A TRACK RECORD.

I, I'VE SEEN SOME OF THAT COME THROUGH ON EMAILS.

I, I'M ON A LIST.

I DON'T KNOW HOW COME I'M ON IT.

YOU'RE NOT.

BUT I, I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH TO GET 'EM GOING AND I THINK THAT 10 WOULD BE SEED MONEY THAT MIGHT SPUR EVEN MORE GROWTH FOR US.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE 10 FOR BOTH.

AND ARE YOU SAYING 10 FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AND NEXT YEAR? YES.

FOR BOTH YEARS, YES.

BECAUSE JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE MONEY ALLOCATED BACK IN JUNE HAS NOT YET BEEN RIGHT? CORRECT.

I THAT'S COMMITTED TO YOU ALL THAT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE A FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION.

JUST TO MAKE THAT POINT CLEAR.

THANKS.

AND THEN I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER DUNN THAT HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES IN BRENTWOOD IS A VERY VALUABLE THING.

AND IF BRENTWOOD UP HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, WHICH FROM WHAT I'VE UH, SEEN THAT IT, I THINK IT DOES MORE THAN, UM, OTHER GROUPS OF PEOPLE.

UH, 'CAUSE IT'S TARGETED ON THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES IN BRENTWOOD, THE, THE MOM AND POPS, THE, THE TRULY SMALL BUSINESSES ARE, ARE ABLE TO CONNECT THAT WAY.

SO I TO REMIND YOU, COMMISSIONER LAST YEAR WITH THE 50 FORWARD, I THINK, THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THEY DO GOOD WORK.

BUT YOU HAD SOME VERY STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS FOR STIPULATIONS THAT THEY SHOULD MEET BEFORE YOU FELT THAT YOU COULD VOTE FOR THEM.

NO, ACTUALLY I VOTED AGAINST IT.

IT'S NOT, I MEAN THIS IS, I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T THINK I'M ASKING ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE NEVER ASKED FROM ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT HAS COME TO US AND ASKED FOR MONEY.

AND WE WANTED TO CODIFY THE RULES.

SO WE WERE, HAD A VERY CLEAR PICTURE OF WHO WE WERE GONNA GIVE MONEY

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TO.

AND THE FIRST THING WE DO AFTER CODIFYING THE RULES IS SAY, LET'S HELP A START UP WHO HAS NO, NO PERMANENCY YET.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH WHAT, IF THEY'RE REALLY VIABLE, THEY CAN GET COMMUNITY SUPPORT THE WAY OTHER GROUPS DO AND, AND GET A STARTUP.

IT THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL DRAW SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

PEOPLE WILL DONATE AND THEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, YOU'VE PROVEN THAT YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING GOING HERE, LET US HELP YOU.

BUT I DON'T WANNA BE PART OF A STARTUP THAT IS NOT WHAT TAX DOLLARS ARE USED FOR.

I DON'T THINK I, I JUST DON'T THINK SO.

AND COMMISSIONER SPEARS YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, NOT WELL THE, THE 54 THING, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED SEVERAL TIMES WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY RESIDENTS ARE, ARE PART OF IT? SO I GUESS HERE I'D BE INTERESTED TO THROW IT UP AS REQUESTING MONEY.

HOW MANY BRENTWOOD CITIZENS ARE PAYING MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, OR THEIR BUSINESSES ARE PAYING MEMBERS OF BRENTWOOD HUB JUST TO GET AN IDEA.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT AND AGAIN YEAH.

HOW MUCH CUSTOMER WE SHOULD GET SOME INFORMATION FROM THEM BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK.

WE CAN SHARE THAT.

AND THEN YOU CAN DECIDE IF THERE'S MORE YOU WANT FOR, SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE IN A WAITING PERIOD.

WELL, WHEN, BEFORE NEXT WEEK DECISION HAVE TO BE MADE.

WELL FOR THE 10,000 THAT'S IN THE, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

I MEAN IT'S IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO WE NEED TO EXPEND IT BY, SO WE'VE GOT SOME TIME, TIME TO GET INFORMATION.

WELL, I, AND AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO, AND MAYBE I'M TRYING TO SEPARATE THE TWO THAT YOU ALL DON'T WANT SEPARATE.

THAT'S FINE.

DON'T TWO.

HMM.

I DON'T THINK WE SEPARATE THE TWO PERSONALLY.

WHY IS THAT? SO WHY DO WE MAKE RULES CODIFIED THEN? I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

ON ONE HAND THAT'S TOUGHEN THESE RULES.

SO WE DON'T GIVE MONEY WHERE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, OH, LET'S JUST GIVE A STARTUPS SOME MONEY.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHERE YOUR INTEREST LIES APPARENTLY.

WELL, WE HAVEN'T ASKED WILLIAMSON, INC FOR EXACT NUMBERS OF HOW MANY BRENTWOOD BUSINESSES ARE A PART OF WILLIAMSON INC.

IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO CON, BUT WE CAN GET IT.

AND A HARD, WELL, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO CODIFY HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY BENEFIT FROM ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU KNOW ARE THAT ALL THE BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS THAT BENEFIT FROM BUSINESSES BEING HERE.

I MEAN, NELSON'S BUSINESS HAS PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT THAT CAN HELP.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT JUST, IT, YOU CAN'T CODIFY AN EXACT NUMBER ON THAT.

YOU TRIED TO CODIFY EVERYTHING EARLIER.

I REMEMBER COMMISSIONER SPEAR SAYING HOW MANY PEOPLE PER HOUR, YOU SAID YOU COULD BREAK IT DOWN AT THE SCHOOLS TO HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE SERVED PER HOUR PER DAY.

I AND YOU WANTED TO APPLY THOSE STANDARD AND RECALL THE AGREEMENT TO ME ON THAT TO 54.

WHY IT'S VERY NARROW SOMETIMES AND THEN IT BROADENS THE VIEWPOINT THERE I'S ALL I'M SAYING.

WELL, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.

WE COULD BEAT IT TO DEATH TODAY, BUT I'M, BUT, BUT IN TERMS OF OUR ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONEY THAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING WITH WILLIAMSON CHAMBER, THAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY MONEY IN ARREARS AT THIS POINT FOR A LONGSTANDING COMMITMENT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND MAYOR GORMAN IS SAYING HE WANTS TO CONNECT THESE TWO, BUT WHEN WE HAVE BRENTWOOD UP, THAT AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, DOESN'T HAVE THE, THE PAPERWORK OR THE, THE TRACK RECORD THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY STATE STANDARDS.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'D SAY LOOKING AT THAT GOING FORWARD, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BASED ON THE COMMENT.

MAYBE THAT'S NOT YOUR OPINION.

NO.

IT WAS ACTUALLY A COMMENT MADE BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WHEN WE ASKED IF THAT WAS A STATE STANDARD OR IF THAT WAS WHAT THAT WAS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

I GAR MAYOR.

WELL, EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IF YOU WOULD, IT'S YOUR OPINION.

YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION.

SO EXPLAIN TO ME YOUR, YOUR POSITION.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE THIS TODAY.

YOU DON'T WANNA ANSWER.

WELL, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR OF YOU WHO SAY WE SHOULD RELEASE THE MONEY TO WILLIAMSON INC.

THAT WE WOULD'VE NORMALLY DONE.

THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE FURTHER DISCUSSION OF BRENTWOOD.

UH, I SAY WE HOLD IT ALL AND, UH, AND THEN DEAL WITH IT AT THE, UH, THE NEXT BRIEFING.

WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION BY THEN AT THE NEXT BRIEFING.

WILL THE INFORMATION FROM WILLIAMSON INC AND BRENT WI CHAMBER BE IN WELL, THE DEADLINES FOR ALL, ANYBODY WHO'S SEEN THE FUNDING, BUT AGAIN WHAT I'M TALKING, THAT'S FOR NEXT YEAR'S FUNDING.

SURE.

NOT CURRENT YEAR, BUT IT WOULD GIVE US INFORMATION WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.

YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION FROM WILLIAMSON INC.

THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU LAST MAY AT YOUR YEAH, I CAN PROVIDE IT TO YOU AGAIN AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

I'M, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT'S ACTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

I'M JUST SAYING, I'M TRYING TO GET TO UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE THAT SAY, 'CAUSE WE NEVER, THE, THE, THE VOTE TO FUND WILLIAMSON INC.

DOESN'T HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST IN THE BUDGET.

THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN DONE.

SO I'M, I'M GOOD WITH FUNDING WILLIAMSON INC.

NOW FOR WHAT WE UP FOR THIS LAST YEAR.

WANT TO DISCUSS RELATIVE TO WILLIAM OR BRENTWOOD UP EITHER THIS YEAR AND OR NEXT YEAR.

CERTAINLY.

AND THEN WE STILL CONSIDER, YEAH, AGAIN, I I'M NOT SAYING THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T CONSIDER WHATEVER Y'ALL

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WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION FROM THEM ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

HOPEFULLY IF THEY ALL MEET THE DEADLINE, WE'LL REMIND THEM.

UM, AND THEN WE CAN ASK FOR MORE OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS.

THE BRIEFINGS ARE WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK THROUGH ISSUES AND PROBLEM SOLVE AS AION THESE THINGS.

I REALLY, I I DO NOT THINK I'M FLAWLESS AND DO NOT THINK THAT MY POSITIONS ARE JUST NATURALLY CORRECT BECAUSE OF MY THOUGHT PROCESS.

I'M ASKING YOU QUESTIONS OR ASKING COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS IN CASE THERE'D BE A CHANGE OF PHYSICIAN BASED ON INFORMATION.

SO REPEATING YOURSELF OR JUST DISMISSING WHATEVER I SAY IS OPINION.

IS NOT A HELPFUL PART OF THE PROBLEM SOLVING PROCESS.

SO IF YOU COULD YOUR OPINION, TRY TO EXPLAIN YOUR LOGIC AT TIMES, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

SO I CAN UNDERSTAND BETTER WORD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPINION.

THAT WASN'T AN OPINION, THAT WAS A COMMENT ON PROBLEM SOLVING DOCUMENT.

I FIND A A, A BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE PROBLEM SOLVING THAN DISMISSING UH, COLLEAGUES.

SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS FOR NOW.

I'VE, IT'S MY BELIEF THAT THERE'S FOUR COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE FINE WITH PAYING THE 10,000.

YOU ALL WILL THEN REVISIT WHO'S THE FOUR? WHO'S THE FOUR COMMISSIONER? LITTLE.

OH, OKAY.

I MEAN, I TALKED WITH HIM FOREHAND.

HE KNEW HE WAS GONNA, THIS WAS TO BE DISCUSSED AND, AND WASN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO BE HERE.

SO, UM, OKAY.

AND THEN WE'LL, LIKE I SAY, WHEN WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM ALL THE GROUPS NEXT FRIDAY, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT AND YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT AT YOUR NEXT BRIEFING.

I WON'T BE AT YOUR NEXT BRIEFING, UNFORTUNATELY.

I HAVE A MEETING, BUT THAT'S FINE.

COUPLE OTHER QUICK ITEMS, UH, BEFORE WE GO.

UM, TONIGHT WE'RE HAVING A MEETING WITH OLD SMIRNA ROAD RESIDENTS ABOUT THE SIDEWALK AND WHETHER THERE'S AN INTEREST IN THAT.

UM, TALK WITH COMMISSIONER SPEARS.

WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO SHOW THAT THIS IS JUST, HEY, ARE YOU EVEN INTERESTED IN US PURSUING THIS? MM-HMM.

IT MAY COME ACROSS YOUR PROPERTY.

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR CONCERNS IF IT DID? AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S TWO OR THREE WHO SAY NO WAY, HELL NO, I WON'T EVER ALLOW IT THEN I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS.

BUT HOPEFULLY DO.

BUT THEY RSVP DO CERTAIN PEOPLE, DO WE KNOW IF CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE IMPACTED ARE ACTUALLY COMING TONIGHT? OH, I DON'T KNOW.

WE JUST SEND A LETTER AND INVITE THEM.

I, WE DON'T OUR, WE DON'T ASK FOR OUR SVPS, BUT WE, WE JUST INVITED EVERYBODY WHO FRONTS ON OLD SMYRNA ROAD FROM WILSON PARK, WILSON SIDE AND SOUTH SIDE.

WILSON PIKE TO FORD DRIVE.

SO HERE, YEAH.

THE ROOM.

IT'S NOT A COMMUNITY MEETING OR PUBLIC MEETING.

'CAUSE THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.

OBVIOUSLY IF YOU LET EVERYBODY IN MAYFIELD KNOW THEY COME AND BE SUPER SUPPORTIVE OF IT, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE ONES AFFECTED.

SURE.

THEY'RE WANNA ON EVERYBODY ELSE PRIVATE PROPERLY.

SO THAT'S WHY WE IS, WE JUST WANTED IT INTO THOSE PEOPLE TO SEE IF THERE'S A YEAH.

WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU.

SUBJECT TO SEEING THE FINAL PLANS IS KIND OF THE MOST YOU CAN HOPE FOR AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

BUT IF THERE'S SEVERAL HARD COUPLE ON EITHER SIDE THAT SAY, NO WAY, I, I JUST DON'T WANT IT, THEN I THINK THAT ALSO POINTS IN A DIRECTION.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.

AND THERE'S FIRE ACADEMY IN HERE AND SO WE'RE MEETING, IT'S IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBER.

WHEN I ACCEPT THE SIDEWALK.

ARE THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SIDEWALK AFTERWARDS? NO.

OH GOOD.

BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT WOULD EITHER BE ISSUE OR IT WOULD EITHER BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR IF WE HAD TO GO, LIKE IF SOMEBODY SAID, I DON'T WANT YOU TEARING UP MY LANDSCAPING, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO GRANT AN EASEMENT TO KIND OF GO BEHIND IT, BUT IT, THE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE OURS.

SO THAT WON'T BE A DISCOURAGING FACTOR.

THE , NO, IT WOULD JUST BE WHETHER THEY WANT IT.

AND, AND PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, IS EVEN IF WE COULD KEEP IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY COMPLETELY, WE WILL STILL HAVE TO GET ONTO THEIR PROPERTY TO KIND OF RE REGRADE SOME LAND OR, OR REPO A SECTION OF THEIR DRIVEWAY TO EVEN IT OUT.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO STILL GIVE A CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO QUESTION WE GET AROUND, THIS MAY SOUND STRANGE, BUT UM, ONCE WE PUT IN A SIDEWALK, DOES THAT SIDEWALK BECOME PUBLIC PROPERTY WHERE ANYBODY, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY WANTED TO PROTEST SOMETHING.

COULD BE, YEAH.

WELL I WOULD IF IT'S ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, NO QUESTION.

IF IT'S ON A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT, MY GUESS IS IT WOULD TOO.

I'VE BEEN MEANING TO COMPLIMENT FRANKLIN ROAD.

YOU KNOW, THE NIGHT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE LEFT AND IT WAS SLEETING AND AT TIMES WHEN THE WIND WAS BLOWING, IT WAS HARD TO SEE WHERE YOU WERE DRIVING DOWN.

MARYLAND LANE WAS AWFUL.

GOT TO FRANKLIN ROAD.

IT WAS LIKE BEING ON A RUNWAY WITH THOSE LIGHTS THAT WENT DOWN ALL THOSE LANE THAT WAS REALLY IN THAT WEATHER THAT NIGHT THAT IT DOES HELP THAT REALLY, REALLY NICE UH, GOOD JOB THERE.