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LIFESAVER.[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing February 22, 2024 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the February 26th Agenda, the below items will be discussed: Auditors Presentation to the Commission (prior to the briefing) Updated proposed mountain bike trail rules Update on tentative plans for Memorial Day recognition ceremony This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
DIFFERENCE.APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE.
UH, AS WE MENTIONED, WE'LL START OFF TODAY WITH, UH, ANNUAL REQUIRED COMMUNICATION FROM OUR AUDIT TEAM.
SO I'LL TURN IT TO KAREN TO INTRODUCE EVERYBODY.
UM, THIS IS, UM, REPRESENTATIVE OF KRAFT CPA JULIE EVANS AND KEN YOUNG STEAD, AND THEY'RE HERE TO, UM, TO GIVE YOU THEIR REPORT THERE, ANY REQUIRED REPORT.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, FIRST OF ALL, ALLOWING US TO SERVE THE CITY, UH, FOLLOWING YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THANK YOU FOR SOME TIME AT YOUR MEETING TODAY TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF, UH, COMMUNICATIONS WITH YOU ALL.
UH, WE'VE CONDUCTED THE AUDIT AND, UH, RELEASED THOSE, UH, NEAR THE END OF DECEMBER.
AND SO THERE'S A FEW POINTS THAT, UH, WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO SHARE WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE IN A GOVERNANCE ROLE, UH, WITH THE CITY.
AND SO WE'LL COVER THAT AND JULIE'S GONNA COVER, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME ELEMENTS OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, YOU KNOW, JUST IN, IN BRIEF FORM.
SO THERE, UH, IS LIKELY WITH THE REPORT, THE SIZE OF WHAT YOU HAVE.
THERE MIGHT BE QUESTIONS THAT WE DON'T COVER THAT YOU WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT.
SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GO IN DETAIL OVER THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE COMMUNICATION I'LL START WITH IS, UM, IS THIS ONE THAT'S NOT BOUND, UH, BUT IT'S THE REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
AND IF YOU FLIP A FEW PAGES INTO THAT, THERE'S ONE FOR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS DISTRICT AND ONE FOR THE CITY.
I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE FROM THE CITY.
UM, AND SO IF YOU FLIP OVER TO PAGE ONE, A FEW PAGES IN, UH, WE TALK ABOUT OUR ENGAGEMENT LETTER, WHICH IS A THREE-WAY CONTRACT BETWEEN OUR FIRM, THE CITY, AND THE, UH, STATE OF TENNESSEE, YOU KNOW, AS WELL.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF ANY OF THAT, WE'RE CERTAINLY GLAD TO PROVIDE THAT.
UH, WE HAVE A PLANNED COMMUNICATION OR WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION THAT TALKS ABOUT THE PLANNED TIMING AND SCOPE OF THE AUDIT AS WELL.
UM, FROM AN ACCOUNTING POLICIES AND PRACTICES STANDPOINT, THERE'S ONE, UH, ONE NEW ACCOUNTING STANDARD THAT WAS ADOPTED THIS YEAR FOR SUBSCRIPTION BASED TECHNOLOGY AGREEMENTS.
AND, UH, JULIE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND HOW IT IMPACTED THE STATEMENTS.
BUT, UH, YOUR TEAM WAS READY FOR THAT IMPLEMENTATION AND HAD GREAT COOPERATION ON THAT FRONT.
SO I WILL SAY THAT WASN'T A PLEASANT ONE FOR OUR TEAM.
AND SO
YES, JULIE AND KAREN WERE VERY THOROUGH.
I THINK THEY COVERED THE TERRITORY, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GREAT.
YOU SHOULD FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT.
SO, UH, FLIPPING OVER TO PAGE TWO, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S SIGNIFICANT OR UNUSUAL, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO, WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A LACK OF AUTHORITATIVE GUIDANCE OR DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF HOW YOU COULD TREAT SOMETHING.
UH, THINGS ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
UH, WE'LL TALK IN, IN A MOMENT ABOUT, UH, ESTIMATES AND ADJUSTMENTS.
BUT, UH, MOVING DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE TWO, UM, THIS SECTION HERE, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, EMULATES, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DISAGREEMENTS OR OTHER SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO, UH, TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF.
WE HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
UH, LOOKING AT PAGE THREE, UH, FOR US TO PERFORM THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT, WE HAVE HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENT OF THE CITY.
AND SO WE USUALLY DO A SURVEY OF OUR TEAM, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY FAMILY OR BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS THAT WOULD, UH, PRECLUDE US FROM BEING ABLE TO, UH, PERFORM THE AUDIT.
AND ALSO THE CITY HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE SHARING WITH US, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT YOU HAVE THAT MAY IMPACT OUR INDEPENDENCE.
SO IT'S REALLY A DUAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR BOTH OF US.
BUT, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UH, ISSUES ON THAT FRONT.
AND JULIE EVANS AND JAY EVANS ARE NOT RELATED.
UM, AND SO AS WE FLIP OVER TO PAGE FOUR, ACTUALLY TO PAGE FIVE, UM, SOME OF THE MORE NOTABLE ESTIMATES, ALL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS HAVE ESTIMATES.
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT IMPACT THE CITY'S FINANCIALS, UH, THE MOST.
SO DEPRECIATION OF LONG LIVED ASSETS.
UM, THE, UH, THE NEW STANDARD WE TALKED ABOUT, THE, UH,
UM, THAT IS BASED ON ESTIMATES.
UM, THERE'S DISCOUNT RATES, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE USED IN THAT, IN THOSE CALCULATIONS.
AND THEN AS YOU FLIP OVER TO PAGE SIX, UM, YOU HAVE PENSION AND, UH, AND
AND THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY ESTIMATES WITH ACTUARIAL TABLES, ALL ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT, UH, THAT IMPACT THAT.
UH, AS WE CONCLUDE THIS LETTER, UH, PAGE SEVEN IS A LISTING OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE HAVE.
SOME OF THESE ARE OURS AND SOME ARE YOURS, BUT, UM, BUT THEY'RE THERE, UH, JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ENTRIES WERE MADE FROM THE ORIGINAL TRIAL BALANCE AND WE WORKED WITH YOUR TEAM ON ALL OF THOSE.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I THINK YOU SHOULD FEEL, UM, FEEL JUST FINE ABOUT THAT FROM A GOVERNANCE STANDPOINT.
UM, AND THEN THE, UH, THE FINAL THING ON, UH, THIS REPORT IS THE REPRESENTATION LETTER THAT WE HAVE YOU ALL, UH, PROVIDE TO US THAT JUST, UH, INDICATES THAT YOU'VE REVIEWED AND THESE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE YOURS AND, UM, AND THAT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED US IS COMPLETE AND ACCURATE AND ALL OF THAT.
SO, UH, THE TYPICAL, UM, YOU KNOW, LETTER THAT WE HAVE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE AUDIT.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS COMMUNICATION? AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR INFORMATION ON THE, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE EMERGENCY
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COMMUNICATIONS DISTRICT LETTER.SO JULIE, UM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JULIE.
JULIE LED OUR ENGAGEMENT TEAM THROUGHOUT THE, THE PROCESS.
SHE WAS REALLY FROM OUR STANDPOINT, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY INVOLVED IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE AUDIT.
SO, UH, SO I'LL PASS THIS OVER TO JULIE.
I'M JUST GONNA TOUCH ON A COUPLE HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE, FROM THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE AUDIT REPORTS THAT WE ISSUE AS PART OF PART OF OUR AUDIT TESTING.
THERE'S ONE THAT IS OUR GENERAL AUDIT REPORT OVER THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, AND THAT'S DONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS, WHICH YOU ALL FALL UNDER FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
UM, IT DOES REQUIRE US TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE AT INTERNAL CONTROLS AND CERTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH GRANTS AND CONTRACTS AND CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THERE IS A REPORT IN ACCORDANCE WITH GAS THAT HAS TO DO WITH INTERNAL CONTROL OVER FINANCIAL REPORTING AND COMPLIANCE.
AND BECAUSE YOU ALL DID EXPEND MORE THAN $750,000 OF FEDERAL MONEY THIS YEAR, THERE'S ALSO A VERY INTENSIVE SINGLE AUDIT WHERE WE FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON THIS YEAR, IT WAS THE STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY GRANT.
SO WE DO SOME SPECIFIC TESTING RELATED TO WHAT YOU'VE EXPENDED ON THAT.
AND SO HAPPY TO REPORT EVERYTHING IS A CLEAN OPINION.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FINDINGS TO REPORT TO YOU ALL.
UM, WE THINK EVERYTHING WENT SMOOTHLY.
UM, AS KEN MENTIONED, THE SPEED OF STANDARD OR SUBSCRIPTION BASED IT AGREEMENTS WAS NEW THIS YEAR AND KAREN AND JULIE DID SPEND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME GETTING IN AND UNDERSTANDING THAT.
AND THEY WERE VERY THOROUGH IN GETTING INFORMATION FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND WORKING WITH US GETTING INTO THE STANDARD AND GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION INTO DEBT BOOK, WHICH IS A SERVICE THAT YOU ALL USE THAT KEEPS UP WITH THAT INFORMATION.
AND SO WE'RE VERY COOPERATIVE WITH THAT PROCESS JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE BOARD.
THEY ARE AGREEMENTS SIMILAR TO THE LEASE STANDARD THAT WENT INTO EFFECT LAST YEAR.
SO IF YOU HAVE LEASES, OR IN THIS CASE IT'S SUBSCRIPTION BASED, IT AGREEMENTS.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT COMPUTER SYSTEMS THAT YOU USE THAT ARE IN THE CLOUD, OR I THINK SOME OF YOUR POLICE CAMERAS WERE FEED INFORMATION TO THE CLOUD AND STORE IT.
SO YOU'VE GOT LONGER TERM AGREEMENTS THAT A RIGHT TO USE THE ASSETS THAT BELONG TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO WHOEVER OWNS THE CLOUD OR OWNS THE SPECIFIC SOFTWARE PACKAGE, YOU HAVE A LONG-TERM AGREEMENT.
SO IT'S REALLY A RIGHT TO USE AND IT CREATES REALLY AN ASSET AND A LIABILITY.
SO IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A MATERIAL EFFECT ON YOUR INCOME STATEMENT.
IT JUST CLASSIFIES THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
KIND OF SIMILAR TO A LONG-TERM DEBT, BUT IT'S A LONG-TERM RIGHT.
SO IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR ACROSS BETWEEN A FIXED ASSET AND A, AND A DEBT OBLIGATION.
AND MORE AND MORE OF OUR SYSTEMS ARE THAT RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T REALLY BUY THE SOFTWARE ANYMORE, YOU'RE JUST PAYING FOR THE ANNUAL RIDE.
SO YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE, I THINK, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, AN ACTUAL LINE ITEM IN DEPARTMENTS MM-HMM.
SO WE'LL TRY TO BETTER CLASSIFY TRACK THOSE AND THEY'RE BECOMING MORE OF AN EXPENSE MM-HMM.
AND THE GOAL, THE GOAL OF THAT IS REALLY, UM, SIMILAR TO LE LEASE STANDARD, IT REPRESENTS ASSETS THAT YOU'RE USING TO CONDUCT THE CITY'S BUSINESS WHERE YOU'VE GOT AN ASSET THAT'S BEING USED, YOU KNOW, WITH, AND SO THE CORRESPONDING LIABILITY, I THINK REFLECTS YOUR, BASICALLY YOUR STREAM OF PAYMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE DUE UNDER THOSE AGREEMENTS.
SO, SO IN, SO IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE, I MEAN, WHERE BEFORE WE WOULD'VE DONE A CAPITAL PURCHASE AND THAT DEPRECIATION NOW WOULD JUST HAVE A A, AN INCOME STATEMENT EXPENSE.
IS THERE ANY TAX IMPLICATION OR OTHER IMPLICATION TO THIS? OR IS IT, IT IS LITERALLY JUST A DIFFERENT SPOT ON THE, ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.
IT'S, IT IS REALLY JUST THE LATTER.
IT, SOME OF THEM ARE DISCOUNTED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
LIKE YOUR, YOUR OBLIGATION MAY BE DISCOUNTED AT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT RATE THAN YOUR ASSET IS, BUT THEY AMORTIZED DOWN TO NOTHING.
SO PRETTY SIMILAR FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
WHEN YOU INITIALLY ENTER INTO IT, IT SHOWS UP AS A, A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE AND AN OTHER FINANCING SOURCE, WHICH
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IS A LITTLE ODD, BUT AFTER THAT IT, IT NEGATES TO ZERO.IT JUST GROSSES UP SOME EXPENSES AND GROSSES UP SOME OTHER FINANCING SOURCES, USES REVENUES.
AND I'M GUESSING THE MAIN PURPOSE OF ALL OF THIS IS FOR, UM, TRANSPARENCY SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOUR FUTURE OBLIGATIONS ARE.
IT'S, UM, IT WAS, UM,
AND SO SOME OF THEM ARE EITHER SHORT TERM IN NATURE OR JUST DON'T AMOUNT TO MUCH IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.
AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THEY CAN EXCLUDE FROM THE CALCULATION, BUT THEY DID GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING ALL OF THEM AS A STARTING HOW, HOW MANY, JUST FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING, HOW MANY AGREEMENTS DO WE HAVE AS A CITY? OH GOSH, DUKE, YOU'RE PROBABLY OKAY.
HUNDREDS
IT WAS, UM, QUITE LIKE ON, UH, CHANNEL 19, THE BACKGROUND MUSIC AND ALL WE PLAY.
THAT WOULD BE, WOULD THAT BE ONE OF THOSE AGREEMENTS AS WE DON'T WE PAY IF WE IT'S A LICENSING FEE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, WAS THAT AN EXAMPLE? SOME I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT FURTHER TO PAY ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
UM, A GOOD EXAMPLE IS OUR CITY SUITE FINANCIAL.
YOUR WHAT AS OUR CITY SUITE FINANCIAL PACKAGE.
UM, THAT'S OUR PAYROLL AND GENERAL LEDGER AND ALL THAT.
SO WE'RE JUST GIVEN PERMISSION TO ACCESS IT.
THAT MAKES SENSE THOUGH THAT YOU, UM, UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR FUTURE LIABILITIES ARE.
IT'S SMALL, IT'S RELATIVELY SMALL DOLLARS, 10 OR $12,000 A YEAR, BUT IT'S A, IN THE CLOUD ANNUAL PAYMENT WE MAKE TO THAT WE DON'T OWN THE SOFTWARE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY FUTURE PAYMENTS YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO.
DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR CONTRACTUAL, SOME OF 'EM ARE JUST AN ANNUAL THING, SOME OF 'EM ARE A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT, THAT KIND STUFF.
YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT IT AS STRAIGHT OPEX.
I I THINK ON A REALISTIC, MAYBE WE CAN RELATE TO, I CAN RELATE TO EVEN BETTER.
WHEN YOU UPGRADE RHONDA'S COMPUTER, YOU USED TO BUY THE MICROSOFT SUITES, YOU KNOW, YOU GO BUY IT.
I SAID, HEY, I NEED TO BUY THAT.
THEY SAID, YOU DON'T BUY IT ANYMORE, YOU JUST PAY AN ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION.
WHICH TO MARK'S POINT, I'M GONNA PAY THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT THAT'S THE WAY YOU GET IT RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN IF YOU DON'T RENEW IT, YOUR EXCEL STOPS WORKING.
IT'S LIKE, I JUST WANNA BUY THE PROGRAM
BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING TO, UH, ANY LONG, LONG-TERM OBLIGATION.
YOU HAVE THE CHOICE EVERY YEAR.
NOW IF YOU SIGNED UP FOR A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT TO SAVE SOME MONEY, BUT IF YOU, BUT IF YOU JUST DO KIND OF YEAR TO YEAR, THOSE ARE SHORT TERM AND THEY'RE KIND OF EXCLUDED FROM THE SCOPE OF THIS BECAUSE IT WOULD ALL EXPENSE IN YOUR CURRENT PERIOD.
SORRY TO DIVE INTO THAT, BUT IT, IT HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE FOR US.
AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE IT REFLECTED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY WHEN YOU SEE THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TOO.
AND IT'LL, IT'LL PROBABLY, UM, HAVE US THINK ABOUT HOW WE GO INTO FUTURE AGREEMENTS GOING FORWARD TO MAYBE LOOK AT WHAT THAT, ARE WE REALLY SAVING MONEY BY DOING IT THIS WAY? WELL, IS THERE NOT ANOTHER CHOICE?
FOR THE SOFTWARE COMPANIES SAVING MONEY, MONEY OR NOT, THAT'S HOW YOU HAVE TO DO IT.
I JUST LOVE TO MEET THE MINES THAT SAT DOWN ONE DAY AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IN ACCOUNTING HOW WE'RE GONNA MONITOR ALL THIS STUFF.
I JUST DON'T GET THAT MINDSET AT ALL.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST SO ANALYTICAL.
IT'S, I'M GLAD THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DO THESE THINGS
THE STANDARD SETTERS THAT WE FALL UNDER FOR THE GOVERNMENTAL JOB SECURITY AT THE GOVERNMENT.
WHO, HOW DID THEY COME UP WITH THAT ONE DAY? YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, I KNOW COMMISSIONER DUNN WAS HERE WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED GA B 34.
JULIE, I KIND OF INTERRUPTED YOU.
OH, THAT, THAT HONESTLY WAS THE GIST OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT.
UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR US, US ABOUT THE AUDIT PROCESS OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THEMSELVES IS ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS OLD AT THIS POINT.
AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY CURRENT INFORMATION
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FOR Y'ALL TO MAKE DECISIONS ON OTHER THAN TO JUST KNOW THAT THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE IS, IS GOOD.YOUR STAFF IS WORKING VERY HARD TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE GOOD INFORMATION.
I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU DIDN'T COME THROUGH WITH ANY MATERIAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE FINANCES OF THE CITY, WHICH VERY GOOD.
CAN'T SAY I'M SURPRISED, BUT IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR
SO THERE'S 21 IN THE BIG BOOK.
THE LITTLE BOOK IS ECD SPECIFIC.
SO WE DO ISSUE A SEPARATE FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
IT'S BIG ECD AND OH, THAT ONE.
DID YOU? I WAS REALLY INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT OUR TRUE UNASSIGNED, UH, FUND BALANCE IS.
THE WAY THAT WE CARRY SO MANY A DIFFERENT GENERAL LEDGERS.
105, 110, 112%, THOSE TYPE THINGS.
I WAS, YEAH, YOU DON'T FIND THAT IN PRIVATE SECTOR.
ONE OF THE THINGS LIKE AS KIRK MENTIONED, YOUR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE TELL CLIENTS IS TO COMPARE THAT TO YOUR, YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET TO SEE HOW MANY, HOW YOU'RE COVERED WITH THAT.
SO IF YOU TURNED TO THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE 23 AND LOOKED AT THE EXPENDITURES IN YOUR GENERAL FUND COLUMN LAST YEAR, THAT WAS ABOUT 45 MILLION PLUS A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, WELL, AND THEN ANOTHER 16, 17 MILLION FOR TRANSFERS OUT TO THE OTHER FUNDS.
SO IF YOU COMPARED THAT TO YOUR 55 MILLION UNASSIGNED, YOU'VE GOT CLOSE TO A YEAR'S WORTH OF EXPENDITURES IN YOUR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
SO THAT'S A GOOD POSITION TO BE IN.
YEAH, DEFINITELY ARGUE IT'S ACTUALLY EVEN HIGHER THAN THAT.
THAT'S NOT HIGHER FROM A TRUE UNASSIGNED GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
NO, NO, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE DIFFERENT GENERAL LEDGER ACCOUNTS ARE OVER ACCRUED.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE GENERAL LEDGER ACCOUNTS BEING OVER ACCRUED.
UM, SO AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, WE HAVE DIFFERENT, UM, GENERAL LEDGER ACCOUNTS, SAY, UM, THE, UM, UM, UH, FUTURE PENSION LIABILITIES, THOSE ARE OVER ACCRUED.
UM, UH, AND WE DO THAT INTENTIONALLY.
SO THAT'S, IS IT 102? IS IT 105% OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? OF ACTUAL, YEAH, BUT AGAIN, THOSE AREN'T AVAILABLE FOR ANY OTHER THE TWO SO NO, BUT T AND IT'S A PRIVATE SECTOR COMPARISON.
WE GO BACK AND APPROVE ON THIS, UM, PRIVATE SECTOR ACCRUES TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND THE, THE OTHER NUMBER THERE, I WOULD, AND I MAYBE A LITTLE BIT, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS WHAT MARK'S TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TOS SHOWS THE TOTAL FUND BALANCE OF THE GENERAL FUND BEING 68, 8 21, BUT THEN IT SEPARATES OUT LIKE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT WHERE AT 9.8 MILLION IN FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.
SO THERE'S WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, BUT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE DISCRETIONARY IN YOUR CASE SO TO SPEAK.
YOU COULD, THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT RIGHT.
BUYING A FIRE TRUCK OR WHATEVER, OR POLICE CARS OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF, BUT UNDER THE ACCOUNTING WORLD, TECHNICALLY THOSE ARE, WOULD BE AVAILABLE IF FOR SOME REASON ANYBODY WANTED TO GO MM-HMM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MM-HMM?
UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FORMAL PRE-MEETING, BUT YOU REMEMBER WE DO HAVE, CHRISTIAN IS ASKED TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY CLIENT WITH YOU ALL AT SIX 30 AND IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WITHOUT ANY QUESTIONS, Y'ALL JUST AN UPDATE ON OUR, UH, CLAIMS PROCESS ON THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
UM, ALRIGHT, MOVING INTO AGENDA ITEMS. ITEM ONE IS A AUTHORIZING AND ALTERATION TO THE OSRD DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR EASTMAN'S
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PRESERVE, WHICH IS THE SECTION OF THE BAPTIST CHILDREN'S HOME THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT.BOB, WHAT'S, WHAT SLIDE WOULD BE THE BEST TO, UM, THAT ONE SORT OF SHOWS IT UP IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER.
THERE'S ADDING A, A DRIVEWAY FOR NES ACCESS, UM, INTO A HOLE THAT WOULD BE THERE.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE OVERALL, WE'LL HAVE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THROUGH ONE POLE WE PUT IN THAT AREA THAT THEY'LL NEED TO GET TO.
SO THEY'RE, UH, PUTTING IN A NEW DRIVEWAY FOR THAT ACCESS.
AND THEN, UM, THEY'RE ALSO, UM, CHANGING THE, UH, BRICK TO STONE FOR THE MONUMENTS AND COLUMNS IN THE FRONT ENTRANCE.
AND I THINK THERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THAT.
SO, I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE ARE REALLY THE, THE MAIN CHANGES THAT ARE, SO IT'S GOING FROM BRICK TO STONE, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES, THAT'S RIGHT.
AND THIS WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION? YES, IT WAS APPROVED IN FEBRUARY.
I, I SENT BOB A NOTE YESTERDAY AND EASTMAN PEOPLE ARE HERE.
I'VE GOTTEN A FEW, UH, CALLS AND EMAILS BECAUSE OF THE BLASTING.
UM, BOB, YOU WANT TO COMMENT IN ON 'EM? WELL, I MEAN, THE BLASTING IS REALLY KIND OF, UH, THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL.
BUT, UM, I DON'T, WE TRIED TO CALL, MAKE SOME CALLS THIS MORNING TO SEE IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE GOING FORWARD IS.
AND UM, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REACH ANYBODY YET THIS MORNING, BUT THEY, THEY MAY HAVE MORE.
WELL THEY KNOW THEY IS THIS LONG TERM BLA HOW MUCH LONGER WERE THE BLASTING GO ON? I BELIEVE IT WAS A SIX TO EIGHT WEEK PROCESS.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER MONTH TO GO.
UM, PART OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE WEATHER.
IF THE, THE HOLE YOUR D DRILLING IS FILLING UP WITH WATER, IT DELAYS THE PROCESS.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT WINDOW OF TIME COMES INTO PLAY OF LENGTHY.
IF WE HAD DRY WEATHER, IT COULD PROBABLY BE A SIX WEEK PROCESS.
I ASSUME IT'S JUST UNDERGROUND DRAIN, UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.
IT'S TO, IT'S TO REALLY DO, UH, THE BIO RETENTION.
THIS IS THE ACTUALLY THE, UH, THE CAMPUS PORTION BY THE WAY.
NOT JUST, I WAS GONNA SAY I THINK IT'S THE CAMPUS THAT'S BLASTING RIGHT NOW.
OH, IT'S THE CHILDREN NOT SUBDIVISION.
IT'S, YEAH, NO BLASTING IS NEEDED ON THIS SITE.
I DON'T, I DUNNO IF THIS IS A FAIR QUESTION, BUT I MEAN, IF, IF, IF THEY DECIDED TO, UH, REPLACE THE BLASTING WITH A WHOLE RAM, HOW LONG WOULD THAT BE GOING ON, DO YOU THINK? IF YOU'RE GONNA GUESS? I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, I WOULDN'T HAVE A GUESS ON THAT EITHER.
LONGER THAN SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS
YEAH, I KNOW SOME, SOME COMMERCIAL PROJECTS I'VE SEEN THAT'S BEEN LIKE A FIVE OR SIX TIME MULTIPLIER IN TERMS OF THE NOISE AND DISRUPTION.
OH, ONE THING I CAN NOTE IS THAT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN STATE REGULATIONS OF THE EXTENT AND THE AMOUNT OF, UH, BLASTING YOU CAN DO.
UH, AND WE ARE ABOUT HALF WHAT THE STATE ALLOWS.
SO WE, WE ARE APPROVING THEM TO GO THROUGH THEIR EXTRA PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES FOR, FOR THE SAKE OF THE PROJECT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT A LOT QUICKER IF WE COULD DO MORE, BUT WE'RE CHOOSING TO NOT DO THAT, TO STAY UNDER THAT STATE REGULATION FOR JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF BRENTWOOD.
WHERE THE MAILBOX KIOSK IS ON, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOWS THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE TO LET'S AT THE END OF THAT COLE IS TODD CAN MAYBE POINT TO IT THAT IT IS.
SO, UM, FEEDBACK I'VE GOT FROM RESIDENTS IN NEW NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THESE NEW MAIL, NEWER MAILBOX KIOSKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE COVERED, COVERED, UH, IS THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY THAT'S BEEN PIPED THERE.
AND SO AT NIGHT, UM, THEY WALK UP AND, UH, IT'S DARK.
THEY CAN'T SEE WHERE TO PUT THEIR KEY, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, AND JUST THE THOUGHT WOULD BE TO RUN SOME ELECTRICITY THERE AND HAVE A, UH, MOTION ACTIVATED LIGHT, UH, IN THAT KIOSK.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST GONNA BE DARK.
I DON'T IMAGINE YOU ALL PLANNED ANY ELECTRICITY IN THERE.
WE HAVE A PLANNED FOR A STREET LIGHT TO BE, IT'S RIGHT THERE NEXT TO IT.
UM, HOW, I MEAN, SO THE STREET LIGHT'S GONNA BE HERE AND THE KIOSK WILL BE YEAH.
AND, AND MAYBE NOT A FIX TODAY, BUT, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S I THINK AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
JUST KIND OF NOTE THAT IN OUR FUTURE PROJECTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? JUST WHEN THEY GET AND THAT'S DEVELOPING, IS THAT GONNA BE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES TOO? YEAH, EVERYTHING IS.
BUT DON'T, DON'T THEY HAVE A LOT? WELL, I'M SURE NOT ON THAT PARTICULAR PIECE, BUT IT'S SO DEVELOPED.
I MEAN, THE BAPTIST CHURCH AND ALL IS THAT UNDERGROUND NOW? UH, IT, IT'S NOT, NO, THE
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POWER IS NOT, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.THE POWER'S NOT UNDERGROUND RIGHT NOW.
IT'S ABOVE GROUND, BUT ALL OF IT WILL GO UNDERGROUND.
WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT BAPTIST CHURCH? BAPTIST.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
SO THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE NEW SITUATION OUT THERE.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE UNDERGROUND TO HOOK UP TO OR WHATEVER.
WELL, WHAT I MEAN AT ANNA, WHAT THEY'LL DO, JUST KIND OF WHAT BOB WAS TALKING ABOUT HERE.
YOU, YOU GOTTA COME OFF THE POLE SOMEWHERE TO DEVELOPMENT AND THEN YOU GO UNDERGROUND FROM WITHIN.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME BLASTING THERE TOO.
YEAH, JUST THE FIRE MARSHAL, THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING ON.
HOW, HOW FREQUENTLY DID THEY MONITOR THE SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE REGULATIONS ARE BEING FOLLOWED? AS FAR AS BLASTING UHHUH,
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, BUT JUST GIVEN STAFFING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I'M ASSUMING IT'S, I, I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, UH, WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME ACTION FROM THERE.
IF THERE'S A PROBLEM OR A COMPLAINT, I THINK THEY PAY MORE ATTENTION.
BUT ABSENT SOMETHING, I THINK THEY ISSUE THE PERMIT, GET THE REPORTS FROM THE BLASTERS AND, AND ASSUME IT'S FINE ABSENT A COMPLAINT, I THINK.
WE GOT A BUNCH OF SLIDES HERE.
ITEMS TWO AND THREE ARE RELATED TO SLIGHT CHANGE.
AND I'LL LET JAY TALK ABOUT, BUT THEY'RE BOTH KIND OF SIMILAR SO WE CAN COVER 'EM, BOTH COMMISSIONERS BRIEFLY IN REVIEWING THE FINANCIALS THIS YEAR, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO IDENTIFY ANY TRENDS WITHIN OUR DATA THAT COULD AFFECT ANY POLICY CHANGES WE WANTED TO MAKE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
WE IDENTIFIED ONE THAT WE REALIZED WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED IN 2019, AN OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO ADD ON TO A SATURDAY BOOKING.
THEY CAN ADD FRIDAY, ADD SUNDAY FOR HALF PRICE OR NEARLY HALF PRICE FOR COOL SPRINGS.
UH, WE, WE MAY HAVE OVERSOLD THAT OPTION.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE DIDN'T PUT A LIMIT ON IT.
AND SO PEOPLE VERY FAR IN ADVANCE ARE CHOOSING TO DO THAT.
AND SO IT LOCKS UP THAT FRIDAY OR THAT SUNDAY VALUABLE BOOKING AT HALF PRICE AND WE COULD BE BOOKING THAT AT A FULL PRICE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE WAITED UNTIL MUCH CLOSER TO THE WEDDING DATE.
RAVENSWOOD BOOKS INTERESTINGLY, UH, NOT QUITE AS FAR OUT NOW AS COOL SPRINGS HOUSE DOES.
IT, I THINK IT USED TO BE OPPOSITE, BUT, UM, COOL SPRINGS HOUSE IS BOOKING ABOUT 11 AND A HALF MONTHS OUT AVERAGE.
AND RAVENSWOOD, UH, IS PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS OUT.
SO THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S HAPPENING, BUT IT IS.
AND MAYBE BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE HALF PRICE OFFERS THAT WE DO, PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
AND IT MEANS MORE IF YOU, IF YOU WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE.
UM, BUT NONETHELESS, WE THINK THAT WE SHOULD LIMIT THAT OPTION TO WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THEIR EVENT DATE.
IF THE SUNDAY OR THE FRIDAY HAVE NOT BOOKED, THEN WE'D ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT, UH, AS A BUNDLE.
SO THAT'S PROPOSED FOR BOTH COOL SPRINGS HOUSE AND RAVENWOOD.
I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, IT SERVED ITS PURPOSE AT THE TIME.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOTTEN, WE'VE GOTTEN MORE TRACTION AS A RESULT AS KIND OF A TRUE WEDDING LOCATION.
I DO REMEMBER, I FEEL LIKE I REMEMBER IN THAT WE WENT THAT ROUTE, PART OF THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING THE SAME PARTY BOOKING IT FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WAS WEAR AND TEAR.
IT WASN'T MORE PEOPLE MORE TURNOVER, UM, AND DIFFERENT GROUPS IN THE HOUSE.
SO I GUESS, AND THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO THAT.
WELL, THIS WILL POTENTIALLY BRING IN QUITE A BIT MORE DIFFERENT, ADDITIONAL IN AND OUT PARTIES AND SO FORTH.
IT WOULD, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT FOR JUST WEAR AND TEAR ON THE HOUSES.
AND, AND I GUESS IF WE SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BECOMING PROBLEMATIC OR WHATEVER, WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND, AND RECONSIDER.
AND WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RATES AND STUFF, SO WE FEEL LIKE THE OTHER RATES ARE TO MARKET AND THE THE, THE PRICING IN GENERAL IS, UH, IS RIGHT ON.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'VE LOOKED AT THE MARKET THIS YEAR.
WE HAVEN'T LOOKED, LOOKED AT IN THE LAST YEAR.
UM, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT OUR REVENUE'S BEEN DOING AND WE SHOULD MATCH WHAT WE MADE LAST YEAR.
WE PROBABLY WILL NOT QUITE HIT THE TARGETS THAT WE SET FOR THIS YEAR, BUT WE SHOULD MATCH IT.
UH, WE THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME ELASTICITY OF DEMAND WITH THE LAST INCREASE.
UM, SO OUR RE REVENUES KEEPING UP, UH, EVENT NUMBERS ARE, ARE DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
UH, BUT DON'T THINK THAT AS FAR AS LIKE OUR REVENUE GOES, THERE'S REALLY ROOM TO REALLY MAKE MUCH IN THE WAY OF CHANGES EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THIS ONE MIGHT BRING IN A LITTLE MORE REVENUE.
UM, WE HAVEN'T COMPARED IN A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, I THINK, UH, OUR RATES VERSUS THE MARKET.
SO YOU'RE JUST PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT SINCE WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT OUR RATES KIND OF HARD CODED IN, IN HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE.
'CAUSE I KNOW WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.
I MEAN THIS, THIS AREA CONTINUES TO BE VERY POPULAR, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUT ALSO I THINK GRAYSTONE QUARRY AND, YOU KNOW, UM, ALWAYS ONE DOWN IN FRANKLIN.
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THEY'VE HAD SOME DIFFERENT VENUES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT REALLY APPLES TO APPLES, BUT OTHER, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE SUPPLIES COME ONLINE.SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE PRICING THE MARKET AND, AND PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT.
IT'S, IT'S ONLY A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN WITH PRIVATE COMPANIES.
THIS WHERE THEY CAN RUN COUPONS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN RUN SPECIALISTS AND WHATNOT WHERE WE TEND TO BE PRETTY HARD CODED.
I MEAN, SHE IS ALL OVER THIS SUBJECT AND YEAH, TRUE.
I FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT IN NUMBERS.
I WAS GOING TO ASK, WAS IT KEISHA THAT CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA OR WAS IT ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER? THAT, THAT WAS MYSELF.
AND I SAID, HEY KEISHA, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHY DON'T WE, AND AND SHE REALLY LIKED THAT IDEA.
YES, IT'S BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH Y'ALL ON THIS DOOR COMMISSION.
UM, IT'S A GREAT TEAM AND I THINK THERE'S GREAT THINGS GOING ON.
HAVE WE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, I'M KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF WHENEVER MY DAUGHTER PERFORMS A FRANKLIN THEATER LOT.
WHEN YOU BUY TICKETS TO THE FRANKLIN THEATER, THERE'S ALWAYS AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE CHARGE FOR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION.
HAVE WE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT DOING A LITTLE BIT OF A LINE ITEM CHARGE ON HISTORICAL PRESERVATION? AND I'M NOT TALKING BIG, BUT SOMETHING WE SET ASIDE.
'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE AT TIMES WE'RE HAVING TO REPLACE SOME FURNITURE AND WE WANT HISTORICAL PIECES AND WE'RE ASKING FOR DONATIONS OR WHATEVER OF FURNITURE TO GO IN THERE AND LOOKING AT MAYBE DOING JUST A LITTLE LINE ITEM SO THAT WE HAVE SOME STUFF TO GO IN THERE FOR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION AND THE, WHETHER IT'S THE CURTAINS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT REGINA MADE FOREVER AGO OR WHATEVER.
JUST SOMETHING THAT, UM, I MEAN I Y'ALL DO A GOOD JOB OF BUILDING IT ALL IN IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL YEAH, I WOULD SAY, YEAH, WE KIND OF, BUT IT SEEMS TO BOTHER PEOPLE A LITTLE LESS IF THEY KNOW IT'S GOING BACK TOWARDS THAT COST.
UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE JUST KIND OF BUILT IN RIGHT NOW AND WE PROGRAM IN THE BUDGET ABOUT $45,000 A YEAR GOING DIRECTLY TO HISTORICAL HOME PRESERVATION.
ALTHOUGH THAT'S JUST WHAT WE, IT'S NOT COVERING IT.
IT'S NOT REALLY, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT COVERING IT.
SO, UM, TO ADD ANYTHING ON WHETHER YOU BAKE IT INTO THE RATE OR A FEE, IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S THE ELASTICITY OF DEMAND.
I THINK FOR NOW WE'RE PROBABLY AN STASIS POINT FOR WHAT WE CAN CHARGE WITHOUT SEEING MORE ELASTICITY.
UM, I AM HAPPY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, TO, TO PUT AS MUCH TOWARD HISTORIC PRESERVATION AS WE ARE THE 45,000 IN ADDITION TO COVERING ALL OF OUR COSTS, INCLUDING SALARIES, BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING.
AND THE OPERATING COSTS INCLUDES SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS THE, THE FURNITURE REPLACEMENT OR SOME MISCELLANEOUS ABSOLUTELY.
IN THE OPERATING BUDGET, WE HAVE FUNDS IN THERE THAT, UM, DO MORE THAN JUST MAKE REPAIRS BASED ON RENTALS.
IT'S THE OWNERSHIP REPAIRS ALSO ARE ALSO IN THERE.
SO, WELL, THE RECENT FURNITURE ACQUISITIONS WERE DONATIONS AND MEMBERS OF THE HISTORIC BOARD WENT OUT AND PICKED THEM UP IN THEIR OWN VEHICLES AND CARRIED THEM OUT THERE.
SO UN UNRECOGNIZED BY THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE VOLUNTEER SERVICE.
YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T GET THE PUBLICITY THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY GETS, BUT THEY WORK JUST AS HARD.
SO THAT'S THOSE TWO ITEMS. ITEM FOUR IS, UM, AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT WITH VIGILANT TO EXPAND THE LPR SYSTEM.
THIS IS THE GRANT FUNDED PROGRAM.
YOU ALL APPROVED THE GRANT APPLICATION SEVERAL MONTHS AGO BACK IN JULY.
SO THIS WILL ADD LPRS TO CONCORD OF FRANKLIN MOORE'S AT MALLORY AND MOORE'S AT CARUTHERS.
UM, UPFRONT COST IS A HUNDRED AND LITTLE OVER 103,000, WHICH WILL BE COVERED BY THE GRANT.
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE AN ANNUAL OPERATING COST, UM, FAIRLY SMALL WITH THIS, UNDER THIS ARRANGEMENT THROUGH THE STATE COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE PAYING ON OUR OWN STILL WITH 2000 A YEAR.
SO I ASKED RICHARD TO BE HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, I MEAN, I KNOW WE TOUT THE, THE VALUE OF THE LPR, BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WHAT SORT OF, SINCE THIS IS A GRANT, WHAT SORT OF REPORTING FOLLOW UP ADDITIONAL WORK DOES IT CAUSE ON Y'ALL'S PART FOR THIS GRANT? VERY.
ONCE WE REPORT BACK HOW WE MONEY, THERE'S NO ONGOING, WE JUST HAVE TO DO ONE TIME REPORT.
ON WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO HAD TO BE ON STATE ROUTES, WAS THE ONLY OTHER HAD TO BE ON STATE ROUTES.
AND BECAUSE OF SOME STATE ROUTES, TDOT DECIDED THEY NEEDED TO GET INVOLVED.
SO NOW I HAVE TO GO THROUGH TDOT TO GET THEIR APPROVAL.
AND THERE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT, UM, TDO
UM, SO WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
OKAY, WHAT, WHAT IS THE LONG TERM PLAN? I ASSUME AT SOME POINT THE CAMERAS WILL NO LONGER BE FUNCTIONAL JUST FROM THE HARDWARE PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? SO
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IS THERE A REPLACEMENT PLAN THROUGH THIS GRANT, OR IS THE CITY THEN REQUIRED TO FUND THAT? WHAT IS THAT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? THERE'S NO REPLACEMENT THROUGH THE GROUND.NO, THE CITY WOULD BE ON THE HOOK TO REPLACE 'EM.
NOW, SO, SO FAR WE'VE BEEN GETTING AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS OUT OF THE CAMERAS.
AND USUALLY WE'RE UPGRADING THEM BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY'S GOTTEN BETTER, NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE BREAKING OR GETTING BAD, IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY GETTING BETTER.
AND THERE IS AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF ALL THESE WE'VE DONE, THIS WILL BE THE THIRD, FOURTH, FOURTH, FOURTH, FOURTH KIND OF SET OF THINGS.
AND SO EACH ONE HAS A FIVE YEAR MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
SO IF WE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE CAMERAS IN THAT FIVE YEARS, THEY'RE REPLACED IN THAT.
AND I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE IT BUILT INTO OUR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND THAT WE WILL HAVE TO AT SOME POINT REPLACE THESE CAMERAS.
THEY, THEY'RE NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT.
UM, WE WOULD JUST FUND IT AND WHEN NEEDED.
SO THIS IS JUST READING THE LICENSE PLATE, IT'S LOOKING FOR THE BAD GUYS.
BECAUSE BOTH THE INTERSTATE, THE LAST WEEK, THE INTERSTATE AND FRANKLIN ROAD MOTORCYCLES GO BY.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING SO FAST, WE COULDN'T CATCH 'EM IF WE WANTED TO.
YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT THIS IS JUST LOOKING FOR THE BAD GUY, THEN YOU GO TO THEIR HOUSE OR WHEREVER.
HOPING THAT OKAY, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TICKETS OR ANYTHING.
JUST MAKING THAT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC.
THIS ACTUALLY PINGS THE OFFICERS IN THE CAR IF IT'S A STOLEN VEHICLE.
THEY GET AN ALERT IN THEIR PATROL CAR ON THE LAPTOP COMPUTER THAT THERE'S BEEN A HIT ON AN LPR AT WHAT LOCATION? THEY'LL GET A LITTLE PICTURE OF THE LICENSE PLATE IN THE CAR THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, AND THEY CAN GO TO THEIR LOCATION AND START LOOKING FOR IT.
DISPATCH ALSO GETS THE SAME ALERT SO THEY CAN PUT IT OUT OVER THE RADIO IN CASE SOMEBODY'S NOT ACTUALLY SITTING IN THEIR CAR TO SEE IT AT THAT MOMENT.
SO, SO ALONG THOSE LINES, I KNOW WITH OUR REGULAR TRAFFIC CAMERAS, WE, UH, THAT I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE SD CARDS IN THEM WHERE WE RECORD THE VIDEO ON SD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT WAREHOUSE IN THE CITY OR IN THE CLOUD.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE LPRS ARE, DO HAVE A CLOUD BASED STORAGE TO DO THE ALERTS.
ARE THEY CAPTURING THE VIDEO IN THE CLOUD AT ALL AND IS THAT SORT OF A DIFFERENT THING? OR IS IT LITERALLY JUST THEY'RE NOT RECORDING THE VIDEO, THEY'RE JUST DOING THE, THE OPTICAL CHARACTER RECOGNITION ON THE LICENSE PLATE DOING THE DATABASE AND SENDING THE ALERT? THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'S JUST CAPTURING THE LICENSE PLATE IN THE PICTURE OF THE CAR.
SO THIS DOESN'T MAKE AN INCONSISTENCY IN OUR VIDEO OR ATTENTION POLICY FROM A ENT RECORDS STEP IN AND THE DATA IS NOT ON OUR SYSTEMS AT ALL.
NO, YOU CALL THESE ARE, SOME OF THESE ARE KIND OF NEAR FRANKLIN CITY LIMITS.
IT HAS TO PING Y'ALL AND THEN Y'ALL CONTACT THEM IF A CAR'S GOING, IF YOU KNOW THAT A, THE BAD GUY'S GOING TOWARDS FRANKLIN OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
WHILE YOU'RE STANDING UP THERE, THOSE VIDEOS, CHARLES IS HERE, THEY'RE GREAT.
TWO THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER, THOSE VIDEOS WERE UNBELIEVABLE.
YOU CAN THINK, CHARLES, THAT'S, THAT'S, I'LL TELL YOU, THOSE WERE CHARLES'S IDEAS.
SO, UH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE SO GOOD.
IS THERE A WAY TO GET 'EM PAST OUR LOCAL SOCIAL MEDIA TO KIND OF GET OKAY, GET ENOUGH? BECAUSE THEY DID THE GREAT JOB EVERYBODY.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE THE GREAT STORIES.
WHAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER THAT WE WILL HAVE ONCE WE GOT THESE? DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? WE'RE ADDING 10 THIS YEAR.
WE ALREADY HAVE 16 OR 18 NOW THAT'S CAMERAS.
SO EVERY INTERSECTION, DEPENDING ON HOW BIG THE INTERSECTION IS, IT MAY TAKE FIVE OR SIX CAMERAS FOR ONE INTERSECTION.
SO WE'RE GETTING 10 CAMERAS THIS YEAR, BUT THAT ONLY COVER THREE LOCATIONS.
I THINK TOTAL CAMERAS WILL HAVE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 26 AND 28.
NOW, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND ANYONE THAT WOULD'VE OBJECT TO THIS PROGRAM, BUT YOU DO READ ABOUT IT IN OTHER PLACES.
HAVE YOU EVER HAD ANY COMPLAINTS LOCALLY ABOUT IT? NO COMPLAINTS? NO.
I THINK PEOPLE HERE APPRECIATE IT.
NO, WELL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SEE THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEMSELVES STARTING TO ADD 'EM.
SO YEAH, IT'S FUNNY THAT IT CAN BE SO CONTROVERSIAL SOME PLACES AND, AND SO WELCOME IN OTHER AREAS.
WELL, AND I'M SURE IT'S JUST A PRIVACY CONCERN, BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SITTING AROUND WATCHING LICENSE PLATE.
WE ONLY GO LOOK AT WHEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN A CERTAIN AREA.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY TIME WE ACCESS THE INFORMATION.
HOW CLOSE WILL THIS GET YOU TO COMPLETELY HAVING, UH, ELECTRONIC LPR
UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WE WOULD STILL BE LOCKED.
UH, YOU KNOW, HILLSBOROUGH, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OUT THAT WAY.
UH, THERE'S SOME ON THE SOUTH EAST SIDE RAGSDALE OUT THAT WAY THAT WE PROBABLY COULD HELP.
WE'VE GOT SPLIT LOG IN WILSON, SO WE'VE GOT A, IF THEY'RE COMING FURTHER INTO CITY, THEY GO BY THAT.
I GUESS RAGSDALE AND SPLIT LOG WOULD BE THE ONLY OTHER OPTION.
I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE NOT ON VIDEO, BUT, UM, BUT I WANT TO JUST KIND OF A GENERAL
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IDEA OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD TAKE TO HAVE A COMPLETE, I KNOW NOT A WHOLE LOT MORE.WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO DO THAT.
SO, BECAUSE FOREST HILLS PUTTING 'EM UP AND DOWN OHB HILLS THAT PINGS AND HILLSBOROUGH, THAT PINGS TO Y'ALL, RIGHT? YEAH.
AUTOMATICALLY THEY SHARE INFORMATION.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN WONDERFUL ABOUT SHARING INFORMATION.
SO WE'VE GOT BETTER COVERAGE ON THE WEST SIDE BECAUSE OF THAT.
I MEAN THERE WAS A, A HIGH SPEED CHASE THAT ENSUED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UM, WITH THE HELICOPTER OUTTA METRO AND IT WAS AN ALL AN LPR HIT.
UM, AND I MEAN, IT WAS COMPLETELY OUTTA CONTROL AND THE GUY MADE THE WRONG DECISION TO GO SOUTH ON 65.
IF HE WOULD'VE GONE NORTH, HE PROBABLY WOULD'VE GOT AWAY.
RICHARD, CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW, UH, WHO POPULATES THIS DATABASE THAT THEN THAT EACH ONE GETS SEARCHED AGAIN AS FAR AS WHO POPULATES IT? WELL, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A HIT ON A STOLEN VEHICLE OUTTA HENDERSONVILLE.
HOW DOES THAT GET INTO A DATABASE THAT HENDERSONVILLE OBVIOUSLY WOULD PUT IT INTO A THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, JUST TO KIND OF EXPLAIN IT'S NOT JUST US AND WHATEVER WE REPORT, YOU KNOW, EVERY CITY WILL ENTER IN INFORMATION ABOUT WHO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, A WANTED PERSON, STOLEN CARS, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO EVERY AGENCY CAN ENTER INTO THE SYSTEM WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND OF COURSE IF THEY COME THROUGH BRENTWOOD, THEY CAN ALERT, WE'LL GET THE, THE HIT.
SO, AND WE, WE'VE SOLVED A LOT OF CRIMES FOR A LOT OF OTHER AGENCIES THAT WAY.
SOMETHING THAT'S STOLEN OUT OF BRENTWOOD, BUT IT HITS IN HENDERSONVILLE.
Y'ALL MIGHT FIND THAT CAR IN HENDERSONVILLE.
I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW THE DATA ON HOW MANY TURN OUT TO BE STOLEN VEHICLES VERSUS PEOPLE STUPID ENOUGH TO DRIVE THEIR OWN CAR AND KNOWING THAT YOU GOT ALL THESE LICENSE PLATE READERS AROUND, I GUESS WE HAVE TO DEPEND ON STUPIDITY SOMETIMES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK THE STRANGEST, YOU KNOW, THOSE POLICE REPORTS WE GET, ONE OF THE ONES THAT JUST AMUSED ME MORE THAN ANY WAS THE GUY THAT RENTED A CAR AND THEN KEPT IT STOLEN AND HE HAD USED HIS OWN ID AND EVERYTHING TO RENT THE CAR.
I MEAN, HE WAS VERY EASY TO TRACK DOWN
HOW DUMB CAN YOU BE
ITEM FIVE IS A COUPLE JOB TITLE CHANGE AMENDMENTS TO THE CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLAN.
UH, ONE IS THE ADDITION OF A UTILITY BILLING SPECIALIST JOB CLASSIFICATION TITLE IN GROUP F OF OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEE SCHEDULE.
THAT'S A TITLE WE HAD IN THERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN, UH, AN EMPLOYEE MOVED TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.
WE COULDN'T REFILL IT AT THAT HIGHER LEVEL, SO WE EVENTUALLY JUST TOOK IT OUT.
WE'VE NOW, WITH THE VACANCY, BEEN ABLE TO FILL WITHIN THE UTILITY BILLING SPEC OR UTILITY BILLING OFFICE WHERE WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS, USED TO BE TWO ACCOUNTING CLERKS.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FILL IT AT A LITTLE HIGHER LEVEL OF A PERSON.
UM, MASTERS IN ACCOUNTING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR KIND OF A LITTLE MORE OF A SUPERVISOR PERSON AND THEN A CLERK PERSON.
AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FILL AT THAT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE IT AT THAT UTILITY BILLING SPECIALIST, WHICH IS ONE PAY GRADE UP FROM THE ACCOUNTING CLERK.
SO NOT ADDING A POSITION, JUST ADDING A JOB TITLE IN A HIGHER GROUP, UM, IN RECOGNITION OF OUR ABILITY TO FILL IT WITH A HIGHER QUALITY CANDIDATE OR HIGHER SKILLED CANDIDATE, I'D SAY.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS CHANGING THE JOB TITLE FROM CHIEF UTILITY INSPECTOR TO CONSTRUCTION SERVICES SUPERINTENDENT.
CHRIS KIND OF LOOKED AT THAT JOB DESCRIPTION WITH HR AND HAS MADE SOME CHANGES TO IT AND, AND IS REQUESTING A DIFFERENT TITLE TO THAT POSITION.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE TWO CHANGES.
THEY'RE NOT ADDING ANY FTES, JUST CHANGING JOB TITLES.
THAT'S A MOUTHFUL FOR A TITLE.
BUT YEAH,
SO ANYWAY, TRYING TO GET 'EM AS DESCRIPTIVE AS WE CAN, BUT IT'S A CHALLENGE SOMETIMES, SUSANNA, THEY COULD HAVE USED SOME OF YOUR EDITING SKILLS.
AND THEN, UH, ITEM SIX IS, UH, A MINOR AMENDMENT TO OUR DEFERRED COMP AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF TENNESSEE.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE UH, MATCH AS A EMPLOYEE BENEFIT.
WE DO A MATCHING AMOUNT INTO OUR EMPLOYEE'S DEFERRED COMP AMOUNT OR ACCOUNT.
SO IF YOU'RE A LEGACY EMPLOYEE, UH, WE'LL MATCH UP TO 3% OF THE EMPLOYEE'S ELECTIVE DEFERRALS.
AND IF YOU'RE A HYBRID EMPLOYEE, IT'S 2%.
AND THE DIFFERENCE IS BECAUSE OF JUST THE STATE RULES ON THOSE TWO PLANS.
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UH, AND OUR MATCH HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BASE PAY, NOT LIKE EVERY CONCEIVABLE SUPPLEMENT OR WHATEVER.AND SO WE'VE REALIZED WITH, UM, OUR EMPLOYEE WHO DOES THE HISTORIC HOMES, THAT THAT POSITION PREDOMINANTLY IS PAID ON A COMMISSION BASED AND THE, THE TERMINOLOGY AND THE PLAN EXCLUDED COMMISSIONS FROM THE ALLOWABLE AMOUNT THAT YOU CALCULATE THE MATCH ON.
SO THIS SIMPLY ALLOWS COMMISSIONS TO BE PART OF THE CALCULATION OF THE MATCH IS WHAT HAS CHANGED US.
SO OUTTA CURIOSITY, HOW DID THE, UH, NOT ALLOWING COMMISSIONS GET IN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? WELL, I THINK IT WAS SOME STANDARD LANGUAGE.
'CAUSE IT LISTS A LONG LIST OF THINGS.
AND SO AT THE TIME, UM, WE DIDN'T, WE JUST DIDN'T CATCH IT THAT WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE BEING PAID ON COMMISSION AND SHE JUST STARTED ON COMMISSION IN JULY.
AND SO, UM, WE CAN'T, UNFORTUNATELY BY THE LAW IRS RULES GO BACK AND, AND RETROACTIVELY CATCH HER UP.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE AS SOON AS WE CAN GOING FORWARD.
NO, THAT WOULD NEVER OCCURRED TO ME TO NOT INCLUDE COMMISSIONS.
WELL, I MEAN HUSBAND FOR GOVERNMENTS, NOT MANY GOVERNMENTS HAVE COMMISSION BASED TO EMPLOYEE.
SO YEAH, IT, IT AFFECTS ONE EMPLOYEE, BUT FOR THAT EMPLOYEES FOR THAT SOME YEARS, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT YOU, WELL, FOR A FULL YEAR IT WOULD, I, I'M, I'M ESTIMATING SOMEWHERE AROUND 1200, 1500 MAYBE.
SO WE'LL TRY TO CATCH WHAT WE CAN.
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
UM, AND THIS, AND I'LL GET CHRIS UP HERE.
HE'S GOT PLENTY OF OTHER SUPPORT WITH HIM HERE.
BUT, UH, THIS IS RENEWING OUR AGREEMENT WITH AND SAWYER, WHO HAS LONG BEEN OUR SEWER MODELING CONSULTANT ENGINEERING THAT DOES THE MASTER PLANNING FOR THE SEWER SYSTEM.
UM, BUT AS PART OF THAT, UH, FULL DISCLOSURE IN THIS IS THAT ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, WE WOULD THEN BE ISSUING A TASK ORDER UNDER THIS AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO ALSO BE DOING THE DESIGN WORK ON THE SECOND INCH TANK AND MID TRUNK STORAGE TANK.
WHICH, UM, AT THIS POINT IS ABOUT A $3.4 MILLION ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT, UH, ON A 20 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS TANK PROJECT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, YOU'RE APPROVING THE AGREEMENT, NOT THE TASK ORDER.
THE TASK THE AGREEMENT ALLOWS THE TASK ORDER TO BE ISSUED BY STAFF BASED UPON THE HOURS.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT, WE JUST WANTED TO PRESENT IT TO YOU AS KIND OF A PACKAGE DEAL FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY.
BUT, AND I THINK CHRIS WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES WITH YOU AND JUST TALK ABOUT AS WE HEAD INTO THIS SECOND TANK DESIGN TO GET SOME IDEAS.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME? WE TALKED ABOUT YOU
UH, THEY DO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY EVALUATIONS AS THEY COME IN.
THAT AGREEMENT EXPIRES IN EARLY MARCH THAT MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT.
SO AS PART OF THIS, THE FIRST STEP IN THIS PROCESS, THIS TWOFOLD PROCESS, IF YOU WILL, IS TO RENEW THAT MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT.
SO THOSE SERVICES CAN CONTINUE.
UM, AND THEN ALSO WE WOULD ISSUE A TASK ORDER, UH, FOLLOWING THE HEELS OF LAST FALL'S PRESENTATION ABOUT THE SECOND EQ FACILITY AND GETTING IT STARTED.
WE WOULD ISSUE THEN, THEN ISSUE A TASK ORDER FOR THAT SCOPE OF WORK TO HAZEN TO BEGIN ON, UM, FOR THAT PROJECT.
AND I'LL JUST ADD, WE WENT THROUGH A PUBLIC SOLICITATION PROCESS FOR THAT WORK FOR THE SECOND PROJECT ENGINEERING SERVICES, WE FORMED A TEAM AND EVALUATION TEAM WITH SEVERAL DEPARTMENT, UH, REPRESENTATIVES INCLUDING ENGINEERING AND JAY AND, AND THEN OF COURSE WATER SERVICES.
UH, WE GOT SEVERAL PROPOSALS, UH, FIVE I BELIEVE FROM AREA FIRMS, UH, AND FELT LIKE HAZEN HAD THE BEST QUALIFICATIONS IN THIS AREA TO, FOR THE CITY TO PARTNER WITH, UH, TO START WORK ON THIS SECOND PROJECT.
THEY'VE DONE A NUMBER OF WET WEATHER CONVEYANCE PROJECTS, EQ PRO, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS, EQ PROJECTS, VERY CHALLENGING AND CERTAINLY MUCH LARGER SCALE PROJECTS VERY SUCCESSFULLY IN METRO CHATTANOOGA, OTHER PLACES ACROSS THE NATION.
SO, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE ARE GETTING STARTED ON THAT PROJECT.
PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT OBVIOUSLY.
SO, UM, JUST TO KIND OF RECAP IN CASE PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWING SEWER TANK STUFF FOR FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER, UM, YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY, NOW THAT THE NEW TANK IS ONLINE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY CORRECT.
SINCE LAST JANUARY BREAK EXCEPT LIKE A BREAK SINCE WE PUT THE FIRST TANK ON THE LINE.
AND WE NEED THE SECOND TANK MID TRUNK BECAUSE ONCE WE ARE AT BUILDOUT, IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OVERFLOWS AGAIN.
LONG TERM, FARTHER BACK UP IN THE SYSTEM.
AND IF YOU'LL RECALL IN THE MASTER PLAN, IT WAS THIS TANK WAS SCHEDULED FURTHER OUT, IT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE
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COMPLETED AROUND 2030 BASED ON CENSUS DATA AND PROJECTED GROWTH OF THE CITY, ET CETERA, BUILD OUT.UM, BUT WE'VE FAST TRACKED IT AT YOUR REQUEST TO, TO MOVE.
WE'VE MOVED IT UP THREE YEARS.
SO WE'RE STARTING THAT PROCESS NOW.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE SCHEDULE AND INTENTION IS TO HAVE THE TANK ONLINE BY THE END OF CALENDAR YEAR 27.
SO, UH, UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST AS WE'RE WALKING THROUGH IT, AS LIKE COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR, FOR A GOOD WHILE.
I MEAN, REALLY WE'VE BEEN DOING SEWER REMEDIATION FOR A COUPLE DECADES, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A MAJOR PRIORITY FOR THE CITY, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
UM, SO I GUESS THE STARTING OUT QUESTION, I MEAN, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS TANK IS AT LEAST FROM THE ESTIMATE, ALMOST TWICE AS EXPENSIVE AS THE FIRST ONE.
SO SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE.
UM, AND I KNOW ABOUT TWICE AS BIG TOO, JUST FAIR ENOUGH.
AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD DEAL.
IT'S A BIG CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.
AND I KNOW A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN I THINK IT WAS GEORGE CAME OUT FROM T DECK AND WAS SPEAKING TO THE COMMISSION, HE WAS TALKING A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STORM WATER RETENTION VERSUS INTRUSION AND, YOU KNOW, THE, IN THE, IN THE SYSTEM.
AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE GOLD STANDARD WAS TO NOT HAVE THE WATER TO BEGIN WITH AND KIND OF THE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE ACTUALLY CALLED IT A BANDAID, BUT HE REFERRED TO IT AS KIND OF A, A WORKAROUND TO STORE THE WATER THAT WAS GETTING IN THE SYSTEM IN ORDER TO TO, TO DO THE, UM, THE BLENDING.
SO AT, AT THIS PRICE, YOU KNOW THAT I WOULD THINK YOU CAN DO A LOT OF SEWER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS FOR 20 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF, IF STILL PUTTING THE SECOND TANK IN IS THE, THE, THE ABSOLUTE CORRECT SOLUTION FOR THIS GIVEN THE PRICE TAG OR IF, YOU KNOW, IF OUR ASSUMPTIONS HAVE CHANGED BASED ON THE REAL WORLD PRICE TAG AND THEN WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT IMPROVEMENTS OR IF WE'RE SURE THAT THE TANK IS THE, THE CORRECT ENGINEERING SOLUTION AND NOT THE ONE THAT WAS CORRECT YEARS AGO WHEN WE FIRST PUT IT ON THE CAPITAL.
WELL, I THINK THE ANSWER IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEP IN MIND WE'VE SPENT 15 PLUS YEARS, UH, IN, IN THE REHAB BUSINESS RIGHT.
GETTING INFILTRATION OUT OF THE SYSTEM.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A LOT OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, SO TO SPEAK ON THE FRONT END.
YOU REACH A POINT OF DIMINISHING RETURNS AND, UH, BASED ON THE BEST ENGINEERING INFORMATION AND EVALUATION ANALYSIS, OF COURSE USING THE MODEL, ET CETERA, WE'RE AT A POINT AND ALL THAT'S BUILT INTO THE EVALUATION.
WE KIND OF HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH MORE, UH, INFILTRATION WE CAN GET OUT.
BASED ON, AGAIN, US CONTINUING FULL BUILD OUT FUTURE FULL BUILD OUT FUTURE.
AND WITH, AGAIN, FACTORING IN THE ONGOING I I PROGRAM, REHABILITATION PROGRAM WE, WE DO HAVE IN PLACE.
SO, SO FOR SURE WE NEED THE TANK.
AND YOU KNOW, UNLIKE THE OTHER TANK, NOT ONLY IS THIS TANK MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE, THIS TANK IS ESSENTIALLY THE GATEWAY TO THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S IN TOWER PARK YEAH.
AT OUR PRIMARY INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE, RIGHT.
AND I SAID IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIG PUBLIC PARK AND, UH, VISIBLE FROM THE INTERSTATE, VISIBLE FROM CONCORD ROAD, VISIBLE FROM ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
SO AS PART OF THAT $20 MILLION PLUS TAG, I KNOW WE SPOKE BEFORE ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE TANK'S VISUAL IMPACT WITH A GINORMOUS TANK.
IS THAT 20 MILLION PLUS BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY FACTORING IN LIKE COUNTERS SINKING IT TO TRY TO GET A DOWN TREE LINE LEVEL AT LEAST, OR NO, THE PRICE IS BASED ON ESSENTIALLY HOW WE BUILT THE FIRST TANK.
SO AT THAT PRICE, MAYBE A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY, BUT YEAH.
AN ENORMOUS TANK ENTIRELY ABOVE GRADE.
THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER LOOMING OVER THE INTERSTATE.
I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE, YOU CAN'T SEE TOTALLY TOWER PARKING BACK THERE.
I MEAN, YOU'LL SEE IT, BUT NO, NO, FAIR ENOUGH.
BUT JUST MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT REDUCING THE VISUAL ASPECT.
SO IF WE, IF WE START TRYING TO GO THROUGH AND ADDRESS IT.
AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO IF WE START TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE VISUAL IMPACT AT TOWER PARK AND AT THE CITY'S MAIN ENTRANCE, THAT'S PLUS THAT'S NOT FACTORED INTO RIGHT.
ALMOST BREATHTAKING PRICE TAG.
I SAY WE CAN, WE CAN DECORATE.
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WE'VE SEEN PICTURES OF PRETTY ONES.I MEAN MAYBE PRETTY IS NOT THE WORD, BUT THEY BLEND INTO THE ENVIRONMENT AND I REALLY THAT'S RIGHT.
IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONTEST TO PICKED THE WINNER, MAKE IT A FUN THING.
WELL I DO THINK WE'RE LUCKY THAT THERE ARE SOME TREE COVERED THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT TOTALLY, BUT A LOT.
AND I, AND I THINK PART OF THE QUESTION WE HAVE TODAY, AGAIN, WE DON'T, NOT THE DECISION, BUT AS PART OF THIS INITIAL ENGINEERING, DO YOU WANT US TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL EXPLORATION OF GEOTECHNIC AND I'M SPEAKING ABSOLUTELY.
IF YOU DID WANNA, I DON'T THINK HE EVER WANNA PUT IT COMPLETELY UNDERGROUND, BUT IF YOU WANNA PUT 10 FEET OF IT UNDERGROUND AND BE ABLE TO HAVE, BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU, IS THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY.
LASTING WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
BUT, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AND CORRECT ME THIS, IT IS BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT AM I REMEMBERING IT'S ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF A TWO OR THREE STORY BUILDING? IT'S 50 FEET ROUGHLY, RIGHT? 45, 50 FEET.
JUST LIKE THE HOME BEING BUILT BEHIND MY HOUSE.
SO 45 FEET WOULD BE ROUGHLY A THREE STORY BUILDING.
SO IT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF A THREE STORY BUILDING, ROUGHLY SPEAKING.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, KINDA, I GET THAT THAT'S NOT LOOMING, BUT A THREE STORE BUILDING IS, I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO OUR MAX HEIGHT FOR, FOR BUILDINGS IN THE CITY.
BUT TO COMMISSIONER DUNN'S POINT, WE HAVE HOMES THAT ARE EASILY THAT TALL TOO.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND THEY LOOK DIFFERENT THAN A TANK.
I DUNNO, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THE TREE BOARD AND THE PARK BOARD CAN COLLABORATE ON IF WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A 50 FOOT TANK THERE.
YOU KNOW, IF WE, AS WE GET THAT EITHER THE FOOTPRINT, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO START PLANNING FOR THE CANOPY IN THAT AREA AND START GETTING SOME, BECAUSE WE, WE CAN'T PLANT 50 FOOT TREES, BUT WE CAN PLANT TREES, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE CURRENTLY EIGHT OR 10 FEET TALL, THAT, THAT MIGHT GET TO 60 PLUS FEET DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOME OF THAT AND IN CONJUNCTION TO THE OCCURRENCE OF IT.
I THINK THAT AS, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT TO SCHEDULE, I WOULD SAY THIS CONVERSATION IS AS IMPORTANT AS ANY OF IT.
ONCE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GUYS WANT US TO DO IN TERMS OF THE AESTHETICS AND WHETHER WE'RE GONNA BURY SOME OF IT AND WE REACH A DECISION ON THAT, WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY THEN FORWARD WITH DESIGN AND PLANNING AND GETTING IT CONSTRUCTED.
UH, BUT WE WANNA VET ALL THAT OUT, MAKE SURE LEMME BACK UP AND ASK ONE QUESTION.
UM, AND YOU KIND OF A NEW ANALYSIS, GIVEN THE SUCCESS OF THE FIRST TANK, YOU STILL FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE THIS LARGE THAT'S BASED ON OUR, THAT'S THE POTENTIAL BUILD.
THAT'S THE INSURANCE THAT'S THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT FOR.
UM, GIVEN THAT OUR CITY IS DIVVIED UP BETWEEN DIFFERENT UTILITY SYSTEMS, ARE WE, ARE WE GROWING IN OUR CUSTOMER BASE? YES, WE ARE, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY GETTING CLOSER TO BUILD OUT ON AND, AND ON THE WATER SIDE MORE SO THAN THE SEWER SIDE.
CERTAINLY, BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY PENT IN ON THE WATER WITH WATER DISTRICTS, AS WE ALL KNOW, IN NOLANSVILLE AND HAR VALLEY AND MALLORY VALLEY TO THE SOUTH.
I WAS GONNA SAY, HOW MANY PEOPLE LIKE SEWERS HAS SOME EXPANSION WATER ON MALLORY VALLEY, BUT NOW PAY BRENT WITH WITH SEWER.
DO WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT OVERLAP BESIDES MALLORY VALLEY? YEAH, WE DO HARFORD VALLEY, ALL OF WILDWOOD AND ALL.
WE'RE ON HARFORD VALLEY WATER AND BRENTWOOD SEWER.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE CLOSE TO BUILDOUT, WE'RE TAKING HOMES IN BRENTHAVEN WHERE TWO PEOPLE LIVE AND WE'RE BRINGING SIX AND EIGHT PEOPLE IN THERE.
WE, WELL, OMAN, ANNA EASTMAN'S, I MEAN, THOSE ARE ALL WITHIN EVERYTHING ON OLD SMYRNA ROAD IS, YOU KNOW, SO THERE IS STILL, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED, 200 YACHT SUBDIVISIONS, BUT THERE ARE STILL, RIGHT.
WELL AT SOME POINT TURNER FARM.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT TURNER FARM.
WHERE WOULD TURNER FARM DRAIN? WOULD IT DRAIN TO THE, TO THE, TO THE TOWER PART OR WOULD IT DRAIN DOWN TO THE CPA DOWN TO THE LOWER TANK? CORRECT.
IT'S BELOW WHERE THIS TANK LOCATION.
UM, AND I, I THINK IT'S GREAT TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON INFORMATION.
SO IF YOU ALL CAN DO A NOT VERY COSTLY ANALYSIS AND BRING BACK AND LET US KNOW HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO SINK IT BY HALF, THEN WE CAN AT LEAST MAKE A DECISION.
UM, SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE MONEY BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS FROM BLASTING AND ALL EARLIER TODAY.
BUT IF IT'S NOT TOO EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT TO JUST LET US KNOW SO WE CAN DECIDE.
WE'RE NOT DOING THAT BASED ON INFORMATION, NOT JUST A THEORY IS THERE.
AND THEN I ALSO, I DO THINK WE CAN CAMOUFLAGE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
PAINT WE'LL DO WONDERS A CERTAIN COLOR.
WE'RE NOT GONNA PAINT IT NEON.
UM, AND I DO THINK THAT WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE, AND I ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU ASKED BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT.
BUT WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THIS WILL PREVENT TOILET PAPER FROM FLOWING OUT OF THE MANHOLE COVERS INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT THEY WILL UNDERSTAND
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IT'S, WE DON'T WANT THIS, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS AND IT'S WHAT WE INHERITED AND WE HAVE TO FIX IT.AND SO WE WILL GET USED TO IT EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T WANT TO, BUT WE HAVE TO.
AND SO I THINK PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S PART OF WHAT WE CALL INTERNALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE A CLEAN RIVER PROGRAM, METRO QUESTION CALLS IT THEIR CLEAN WATERS PROGRAM.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TO CLEAN THE RIVER IS A LITTLE HAR RIVER.
SO THAT OUR KIDS IN ABSOLUTELY MY NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE TO CANOE AND FISH AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DOING IT WITH SEWER WATER IN THERE MIXED IN THERE WITH IT.
IS THERE A WAY CHEAPLY THAT Y'ALL COULD, I'M, I'M JUST VERY VISUAL AND WITH WHERE THE LOCATION IS GONNA BE IN ADDITION TO A PRICE OF IF WE SINK IT OR WHATEVER, IF WE DON'T SINK IT AT ALL, CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE US ANY SORT OF DRONE VISUAL SIMULATION RENDERING? WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE TREE NOW? WE CAN DO CONCEPT DRAWING.
JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE CHOOSING BETWEEN.
WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS PARTIALLY UNDERGROUND, DOES THAT AFFECT ACCESS TO IT AT ALL? SURE.
FOR REPAIRS AND THINGS, BECAUSE I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO, IT'S NOT A BIG THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT YEAH.
SO IT'S, IT WOULDN'T BE A, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF UNDERGROUND, OBVIOUSLY, INFRASTRUCTURE AND MINOR MINOR INCONVENIENCE.
AND YOU'RE SURE YOU JUST HAVE TO PROVIDE THE ACCESS WHEN YOU BUILD IT, ET CETERA.
IT'S NOT, YEAH, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
UM, WHAT, THIS IS ALL COMING OUTTA THE ENTERPRISE FUND, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE GEOTECH ADDITIONAL COST, UM, JUST TO DO THAT GEOTECHNICAL STUDY, UM, I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH THAT IS.
'CAUSE THAT COULD BE GEOTECHS BUILT INTO THE, THE GEOTECH IS BUILT INTO THE 3 BILLION DO IT ANYWAY, GEOTECH.
SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL, THAT'S PART OF THE THREE POINT WHATEVER.
JUST, JUST HOW FAR DO YOU WANT THEM TO GO WITH IT IN TERMS OF AN ANALYZER.
AND THEN, UM, JUST THE FINALLY GETTING, UM, THE SEWER, UM, WATER OUT OF, UH, THE LITTLE HARPETH RIVER, WHEN YOU TALK TO RESIDENTS ABOUT IT, UH, THEY'RE ECSTATIC.
UM, THEY COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT WE WERE DUMPING SOMEWHERE 5 MILLION GALLON OR OR 5 MILLION GALLON ISH.
UM, UM, THAT VOLUME OF RAW SEWER INTO THE LITTLE HARPETH RIVER, THEY WERE ASTONISHED.
BUT NOW WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE REMEDIATION AND GETTING IT OUT, UM, RESIDENTS ARE SUPER PLEASED FOR SURE.
AGAIN, CAVEAT, WE ALWAYS SAY HERE IS THIS IS A DESIGN STORM CAPACITY, SO ANOTHER MAY, 2010.
2010, WE'RE STILL GONNA JUST, WHY DON'T ALWAYS STAY OUTTA THE WATER.
STAY OUTTA THE WATER, WASH YOUR HANDS AFTER YOU CLEAN OUT YOUR HOUSE.
WE TOLD 'EM ALL TO WEAR BOOTS WHEN THEY WERE CLEANING OUT THE FLOOD HOUSES.
ONE MORE QUESTION, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT, UM, MAYOR GORMAN SAID ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE FUND FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE WATCHING AT HOME, UM, AND DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS.
COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THAT, HOW THAT WORKS? AND JUST EXPLAIN THAT TO US? YEAH, LAUREN, THE ENTERPRISE FUND, AND KIRK CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO IT BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT IT'S, IT'S FUNDED OUTTA YOUR WATER AND SEWER RATES.
UM, AND AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.
THERE'S A RATE STUDY TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT IS FOR THIS $30 MILLION OR THIS $20 MILLION, I'M SORRY, PROJECT.
REMEMBER THE LAST RATE STUDY WE DID, THIS PROJECT WASN'T YET WITHIN OUR CAPITAL HORIZON BECAUSE IT WAS DONE HOW MANY YEARS AGO? STUDY 2, 2 2, 2 YEARS AGO.
SO WE'VE GOTTA FACTOR THAT IN.
THERE'LL BE BOND ISSUE, AT LEAST PARTIALLY A BOND ISSUE RELATED TO THIS.
SO THAT'LL ALL GET FACTORED IN.
SO YOU MAY SEE, AND IT WON'T BE IN THE COMING BUDGET YEAR, IT'LL ABOUT TO BE THE FOLLOWING YEAR WHEN WE START INCURRING THOSE HIGHER EXPENSES, UM, THAT YOU'LL SEE YOU PROBABLY IN, IN THE LAST SEVERAL TIMES.
IT'S KIND OF BEEN THE SAME FOR WATER AND FOR SEWER.
THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE THE CASE HERE.
YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA SEE A LITTLE HIGHER BUMP UP IN THE SEWER RATES, UM, WHICH WILL AFFECT SOME RESIDENTS AND NOT OTHERS.
BUT THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF WHERE THOSE COSTS ARE GONNA BE INCURRED.
ARE WHETHER YOU'RE ON NOT, IT DOESN'T IMPACT US BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, UH, IN THAT ENTERPRISE FUND EITHER SIDE.
BUT WILL AFFECT YOUR OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE.
EVEN THOUGH IF I DECIDE TO GO, UM, GET MY GOLF BALL OUT OF THE LITTLE HAR RIVER
THE WATER LEVEL, WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S GOOD FOR ONE AREA, IT WE ALL BENEFIT FROM.
I, WE WANNA ARGUE, IT'S LIKE WHO CAN ARGUE WITH CLEAN RIVERS? RIGHT.
IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, WOULD IT RATHER NOT HAVE A TANK THERE? YES.
NO, THAT CONCEPTUAL WITH THE HEIGHT WILL REALLY HELPFUL.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE PAST THAT HAVE BROUGHT US TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE MANY CHOICES IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DO.
AND IT'S THE NATURE OF EVERYBODY'S SEW SYSTEM THAT'S 50 YEARS OLD OR PLUS OR WHATEVER.
LIKE I SAID, FRANKLIN'S GOT A TANK.
METRO'S BUILT TENS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF THINGS.
WE'RE PRETTY LUCKY TO HAVE LAND WHERE WE COULD PUT IT AS EASILY AS WE DID.
THANKFULLY WE DID NOT HAVE TO IN, IN THAT CENTRAL AREA
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THERE TO TRY TO ACQUIRE MORE ACQUIRESO THAT TOOK A YEAR AND A BUILD AROUND IT, YOU KNOW, BUNCH OF DAFFODIL AROUND IT.
WE JUST ACQUIRED OVER THERE AND, AND JUST FOR EXAMPLE, AGAIN, I, CHRIS WAS THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS OF RAIN, ABOUT A WEEK AND 10 DAYS AGO, WHATEVER WE DID, THE TANK DID ACTIVATE IT.
COUPLE MILLION GALLONS OF BUILD UP ABOUT THREE QUARTERS, RIGHT? YEAH.
TWO LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION AND A HALF.
YOU'RE GOING TO DO APPRECIATE, WE'LL PUT TAKING CARE OUR PUT TOGETHER CONCEPT.
WE PUT TOGETHER THE CONCEPT DRAWINGS AND JUST SOME, SOME INSTRUCTIONS.
YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WE ARE HIRING AN ENGINEERING FIRM THAT CAN'T PUT THAT TOGETHER.
MAYBE WE'RE NOT HIRING THE RIGHT ENGINEERING.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THREE GUYS.
THAT'LL BE PRINCIPAL IN IN THIS PROJECT.
IT'S SCOTT WOODER, UH, MICHAEL OR, AND RYAN DEAN.
HE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND THE, AND THE COMMUNITY.
I'LL STARTED WITH EDDIE ARNOLD AND, OKAY, SO THAT'S THE AGENDA.
UM, THERE'S THE BREAKDOWN THERE.
SO, UH, JUST A FEW OTHER ITEMS WHERE THROUGH THE AUDITORS.
I'VE GOT COPIES OF WHAT ON THE MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAIL STUFF.
ANYBODY ELSE NEED IT? HERE YOU GO.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS, WE'RE KIND OF BACK.
FEEL FREE TO THANKS Y'ALL TO HEAD OUT.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS PROVIDED YOU WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY THERE AND THEN PROVIDED YOU WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN HAD PROVIDED TO STAFF AFTERWARDS, WHICH REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH, JUST MADE IT MORE CONCISE.
UH, AND THEN THEY WENT BACK AND MET WITH THE MOUNTAIN BIKE PEOPLE AND, AND HAS SUGGESTED A FEW OTHER CHANGES TO THAT LIST.
AND THEN, SO WE JUST TRIED TO SHOW YOU A TRACK CHANGES OF WHAT, UM, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AT THIS POINT.
UH, AND, AND THEN IF Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS OR WHATEVER OTHER TWEAKS, THEN BACK TO THE PARK BOARD AND THEN BACK TO YOU ON MARCH 11TH.
UM, AND I, YEAH, MY INTENT WAS NOT TO MAKE BIG CHANGES AT ALL, WAS TO CONSOLIDATE IT BECAUSE I THINK WHEN THINGS GET TOO LONG, PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA READ IT.
THE, AND UM, THE IMPORTANCE IS, TO ME PRIORITY IS SAFETY NUMBER ONE.
BUT IN, IN THAT CONSOLIDATING SO THAT PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY READ IT, OUR REGULAR USE, THE, THE REGULAR MOUNTAIN BIKERS ARE GONNA KNOW THE RULES AND NOT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY READ 'EM ONCE OR WHATEVER, IT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE WITH THEM.
IT'S MORE FOR THE, THE CASUAL USER THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW, UM, THAT AREN'T AS FAMILIAR WITH MOUNTAIN BIKING.
UM, RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY OTHER TWEAK I WOULD SAY, AND AGAIN ALONG THE LINES OF CONSOLIDATING, I KNOW MARTY SAID HE REALLY WANTED TO PUT IN THERE, DO NOT REMOVE LEAVES FROM TRAILS.
WHAT THE BIG DEAL CAN WE CONSOLIDATE AND JUST PUT, PUT THAT WITH THE, DO NOT REMOVE PLANTS.
CAN WE PUT, DO NOT REMOVE LEAVES, COMMA PLANTS OR DISTURB WILDLIFE AND JUST CONSOLIDATE IT.
UM, 'CAUSE IT'S ALL KIND OF THE SAME CONCEPT TOPIC.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WAS 15 BULLET POINTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
12 HOPEFULLY JUST, JUST TO KEEP PEOPLE READING.
BUT I DO LIKE THAT Y'ALL ADDED THE, UM, THE QR CODE AND YOU KNOW, MADE THAT.
'CAUSE THIS IS ESSENTIALLY DAVE WHAT THE SIGN WILL LOOK LIKE.
SO THAT QR CODE WOULD BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SIGN, RIGHT? YES.
UM, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT MADE IT.
THEY'RE THE BIKE GROUP, SO, SO SOBA.
SO, UM, SO THEY'LL BE UPDATING IT.
SO IF IT'S NOT UPDATED, IT'S THAT'S THE KEY SOVA.
WELL Y'ALL HAVE ACCESS TO IT BECAUSE IF Y'ALL ARE, YOUR GUYS ARE INSPECTING IT AND YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSED, KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU CLOSE A FIELD.
WILL Y'ALL BE ABLE TO SAY IT'S CLOSED? YEAH.
WE'LL, WILL THIS, THE QR CODE, EVEN THOUGH THEY CREATE IT, DOES IT DRIVE IT TO OUR WEBSITE WHERE OUR WEBSITE WILL SHOW WHAT'S, NO, IT DRIVES IT TO SOVA, SOVA SO'S WEBSITE AND THEN SOVA HAS OUR TRAILS ON THEIR WEBSITE TELLING WHO'S OPEN AND WHO'S NOT OUR, WHAT CONDITION IS.
BUT DO WE HAVE IT ON OUR CITY WEBSITE? NOT AS RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN MAKE THAT LINK.
I ASSUME WE COULD JUST, WE COULD LINK TO IT.
I ASSUME WE'LL HAVE A MOUNTAIN BIKE PAGE ON A PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT COULD THEN LINK TO THAT.
BUT LETS MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT DUPLICATING.
SO THAT RESIDENTS CAN GO ONE SPOT.
BECAUSE I WOULDN'T, I WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT'S, IF SORBA WAS WHAT SORBA, I, I DON'T EVEN, THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE TO ME.
AND, BUT I WOULD PROB POSSIBLY GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE AND LOOK UP MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS THAT WAY.
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ANY TRAIL ISSUE BEING REPORTED TO THEM? IS THAT HOW THIS HAS BEEN SET UP? THAT IF THERE ARE TRAIL ISSUES? YES.AND DOES THAT MEAN LIKE ROOTS AND TREE FOLIAGE AND THAT KIND OF THING? OR IS THAT LIKE OFFENSES TO THE RULES OR ALL OF IT? LIKE WHAT DOES SOBA IS WHAT IS A TRAIL ISSUE? REPORTING TO SOBA, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? ANY OF THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
SO, SO DO WE NEED TO SAY REPORT ANY MAINTENANCE TRAIL ISSUES? OR DO WE NEED TO SAY, UM, TRAIL MAINTENANCE ISSUES? TRAIL ISSUES, TRAIL TRAIL MAINTENANCE ISSUES? YEAH.
AND AS LONG AS THEY KNOW IT'S COMING AND THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR FIXING, THAT'S PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM IS THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
I THINK WE BETTER SAY MAINTENANCE THEN ON THAT TRAIL, TRAIL MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
AND THEN I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I CAN WAIT IF WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I WANNA PIGGYBACK OFF OF YOURS.
SO WE'RE ABDICATING, UH, A LOT OF, UM, RESPONSIBILITY, UH, TO SOBER.
I MEAN THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT WE MADE WITH HIM WHENEVER THAT WAS.
I MEAN ULTIMATELY IT'S STILL OUR PARK, SO YEAH, IT'S OUR PARK.
UM, BUT WITHIN OUR PARK WE'RE DIRECTING, UH, PEOPLE TO AN EXTERNAL WEBSITE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
INSTEAD OF MAYBE DIRECTING THEM TO OUR WEBSITE, UH, AND THEN THEY'RE LINKING TO OUR WEBSITE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN, UH, WE DO IN, UH, MOST CASES.
I MEAN, YOU COULD LOOK AT IT AS, UH, ABDICATING OR YOU COULD TAKE YOU TO LESS LEVERAGING THE RELATIONSHIP LIKE WE DO WITH BRENTWOOD BALL CLUB OR BRENTWOOD BLAZE WHERE THEY DO THE SIGNUPS AND THEY, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE WITH THE PEOPLE AND ALL THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS LEVERAGE THE RELATIONSHIPS WHO DON'T CREATE A LOT OF EXTRA WORK FOR THE CITY.
AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS WAS.
WELL THAT WAS, AGAIN, THAT WAS, GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT TO EVEN GET INTO THIS, IS THAT THEY AGREED THAT THEY WOULD FUND KIND OF THE EXTRA DESIGN NEEDED TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE HAD ALWAYS PLANNED IT.
AND THEN WE WOULD PARTNER THEM ONCE WE DID OUR PART.
THEY DID THEIR PART THAT THEY WOULD KIND OF HATE TO SAY, OPERATE IT FOR US, BUT MAINTAIN IT GOING FORWARD.
BUT AGAIN, WE STILL, IT DOESN'T MEAN LIKE DAVE'S FOLKS CAN'T GO ON THERE AND DO SOMETHING IF NEED BE OR WHATEVER.
WE JUST DIDN'T WANNA ASSUME PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY AND ALL THE, THE RESOURCES THAT WOULD GO TO THAT ON THE, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO ADD BACK IN THE, THE CLASS ONE PEDAL ASSISTED OR WHATEVER.
I DO LIKE THAT Y'ALL ARE PUTTING A, A CHART IN.
'CAUSE AGAIN, FOR THE LAY PERSON, THAT'S NOT THE NORMAL UM, PERSON.
IS IT GONNA BE KIND OF THAT FULL CHART THAT MARTY PASSED OUT? OR JUST COLUMN ONE? I DON'T HAVE THE FULL CHART.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT? THE BEGINNING IT SAYS UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED.
SO WHAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF BEING OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED? WELL, OUR AUTHORIZED USE OUR MAINLY VEHICLE TO GET UP THERE IF NEEDED.
OR IF THEY WANTED TO DO A WORKDAY THAT NEEDED A VEHICLE, WE COULD AN A TV OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT SO FOR ME, IF I SEE THAT, I WOULD THINK, WELL THEY DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT AUTHORIZED SO I'M JUST GONNA BRING MY CLASS THREE BIKE UP HERE.
MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE SOMEONE MIGHT SAY, WELL MAYBE A CLASS THREE BIKE COULD BE AUTHORIZED UNDER A SPECIAL CONDITION, SO I'M JUST GONNA BRING IT UP TODAY AND TRY IT OUT.
I GUESS FOR ME IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT THE CITY CAN COME UP.
THE A TV CAN COME UP IF THE CITY NEEDS TO CLEAN IT UP.
IF SORBA NEEDS TO MAINTENANCE OR HEAVEN FORBID IF, UM, EMERGENCY, OUR DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY PEOPLE NEED TO COME UP THERE.
BUT IF WE LEAVE IT THERE, IT, IT SORT OF LEAVES A LOOPHOLE FOR PEOPLE.
BUT IF WE JUST TAKE IT OFF AND SAY TRAILS ARE FOR BICYCLES AND CLASS ONE PEDAL ASSISTED E-BIKES ONLY, I THINK IT'S JUST A MORE CLEAR COMMUNICATION.
IT DOESN'T LEAVE A LOOPHOLE OPEN FOR ANYBODY.
BECAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE AUTHORIZED, IF YOU'RE SORBO OR CITY OF BRENTWOOD RIGHT.
YOU'RE AUTHORIZED, YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO ON IT ANYWAY.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T NEED TO ASSUME THAT THEY CAN GET AUTHORIZED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL STUFF.
OR MC ALLISON SAID, KIND OF CHEAT THE SYSTEM.
I'D RATHER THE GENERAL PUBLIC ONLY KNOW IT'S FOR BIKES AND, AND CLIMBING.
YOU JUST DON'T WANT SOMEBODY YELLING AT OUR MAINTENANCE GUYS.
THEY CAN A PULL THEIR BADGE OUT AND SAY SURELY THEY ARE GOT ENOUGH COMMON SENSE.
WE CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR EVERY TREE DOWN HERE.
WELL, YOU'D BE SURPRISED, BUT YEAH.
WHATEVER YOU MIGHT THINK WE TAKE POINT WAS TO SHORTEN THE RULES.
NOW WE'RE AT GOING BACK AND ADDING, I THINK THERE COMES A POINT WHERE WE SAY PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE TO RELY ON SOME JUDGMENT AT TIMES.
YOU KNOW, IF I'M GOING OUT AND SAY THAT MAINTENANCE GUY'S TRYING TO GET THAT DANGEROUS TREE ACROSS FROM ACROSS THE PATH, BUT I'M GONNA REPORT HIM BECAUSE HE MIGHT NOT BE AUTHORIZED.
THAT PERSON'S HOPELESS ANYWAY.
I THINK IT'S GOOD THE WAY IT'S, YOU DID A GOOD JOB AND THE ONLY REASON I WANTED TO GO TO THE PARK BOARD IS BECAUSE THAT'S PROTOCOL.
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THEY VOTE AGAINST IT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE FINAL SAY.I MEAN THE CITY COMMISSION ALWAYS DOES.
BUT I THINK THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO AT LEAST LOOK AT IT.
WELL, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY DID THE FIRST TIME.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, DAVID, YOUR TEAM AND BACK AND FORTH AND, UM, MR. MILLER ARE DONE.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK ON THIS.
SO DID WE DECIDE WE'LL STRIKE UNAUTHORIZED THAT'S OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED AND ADD MAINTENANCE LEAVES, ADD THE WORD MAINTENANCE AFTER TRAIL AND ADD LEAVES, PLANTS OR DISTURB WILDLIFE.
DO NOT REMOVE LEAVES, PLANTS OR DISTURB WILDLIFE LEAVES OR DISTURB.
DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY REMOVE LEAVES? I CAN'T WISH THAT COME TO MY YARD.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A REASON IN THERE AND I WHY, YOU KNOW, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY WANTING TO GO IN THERE AND PICK UP ESPECI WHEN THEY'RE ON A BIKE.
THEY COME TO REMOVE LEAVES, COME TO TRA OUT, EVEN GET TEENAGERS TO R YOUR YARD ANYMORE FOR MONEY.
BUT I CAN SEE PEOPLE COMPLAINING THAT THEIR LEAVES WEREN'T REMOVED IF THEY DON'T KNOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AND IT JUST PUTS IT IN THERE.
IT KEEPS THEM FROM COMPLAINING THAT, OH YEAH, HEY, NO ONE'S BLOWING THE TRAILS.
THIS IS TOO LEAFY
ACTUALLY, I I DID EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU HIT A CURVE WITH LEAVES SLICK, IT CAN BE SLICK.
AND SO THEY MAY THINK THEY'RE DOING A GOOD THING BY PUSHING THE LEAVES OFF THE TRAIL TO ME.
DO YOU THINK, LIKE ALLISON SAID THAT, SO A THING, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE A SWEETENER DOESN'T IT AND STUFF.
IF YOU DON'T MOUNTAIN BIKE, YOU DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
DO JUST GO UP THERE AND ACTUALLY DO THIS OR I'M SURE THERE WILL BE, IT'S PRETTY MUCH GONNA BE MOUNTAIN BIKE PEOPLE.
NO, I'M SURE ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU OPEN IT, THERE'LL BE SOMEBODY WHO MAYBE HADN'T EVER DONE IT BUT JUST WANTS TO TRY, DECIDES TO TRY.
THAT WOULD BE, I'D LOVE TO BE THERE THAT DAY.
BUT THEY'RE PRETTY EASILY ACCESSIBLE TRAILS.
AND THIS MIGHT REALLY OPEN UP A FUN ACTIVITY FOR A LOT OF FOLKS.
THEY LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, BECOME SO I'VE BEEN BREAKING THE RULES AND WALKING ON THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT OFFICIALLY OPEN YET.
THEY'RE REALLY, MY ORIGINAL CONCERN WAS JUST DO A RESEARCH
I REALLY BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA CHASE MORE HIKERS OFF THE BIKE TRAILS AND VICE VERSA.
WELL, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING.
SEVERAL YEARS BACK WE LIVED NO HORSES.
'CAUSE REMEMBER THERE WAS A REAL PUSH TO HAVE HORSES OUT THERE ON FLORIDA, THE PERSON WHO'S PUSHING THAT.
I STILL HEAR FROM FREQUENTLY ABOUT PUSHING THAT.
I THINK ONCE THE BIKES ARE OUT THERE, A HIKER MIGHT ONLY DO THAT ONCE.
AS LONG AS THERE'S ENOUGH BIKING ACTIVITY.
UM, REAL QUICK, BEFORE DAVE GOES, AND WE GET TO NUMBER THREE WITH, WITH COMMISSIONER SPEARS AND CHARLES IS, I WAS JUST DAVE, A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR SHELTER RESERVATION PROCESS.
WELL, WE HAVE 63 MADE RESERVATIONS.
ONLY HAD A COUPLE THAT WE'VE HAD TO CANCEL OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NON-RESIDENTS, UM, TWEAKING ALONG THE WAY.
UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY TO THE POINT WHERE THE COMMUNITY'S CALLING IN AND THEY SAYING, HEY, YOU MAY WANT THINK ABOUT THIS.
SO THEY'RE MAKING SOME TWEAK LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S GOING WELL, IT'S GOING WELL.
THE PAYMENT'S EASIER AND, UH, PAYMENT'S BEEN GOING THROUGH.
I DON'T KNOW IF SO FAR HAS FINANCE BEEN SEEING ANYTHING OR HAS IT TAKEN A WHILE? IT'S BEEN OUT.
I'LL CHECK THE ONE WE GO BACK.
BUT WE WE'RE NOT HOLDING THE PAYMENT.
IT'S GOING, IT'S A CREDIT CARD PAYMENT THROUGH A PORTAL THAT THEN GETS REPORTED.
WE'VE HAD 63, BUT NOT 63 IS PAID.
THEY HAVE SO MANY DAYS TO PAY IT.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY IS ACTUAL PAID.
ARE WE GETTING CLOSER TO WHERE WE CAN LAUNCH TENNIS COURT RESERVATIONS? UH, NO.
WE'RE MAKING SOME AS THEY, AS ALL THE REQUESTS COME IN FOR TENNIS, WE'RE MAKING SOME NOTES AND WHATNOT.
UM, JUST SO THAT WE CAN WRITE ALL THE RULES THAT WE CAN CONCEIVABLY THINK ABOUT.
RIGHT NOW OUR BIGGEST ONES IS, UM, UH, THE GROUPS ARE REQUESTING TIME FROM PREVIOUS, UH, TEAM CAPTAINS AND THEY'RE NON, OR COUNTY OR NON COUNTY, UH, PEOPLE.
AND THEN MIKE SAYS, OKAY, YOUR TOTAL IS THIS.
AND THEN THEY'LL SAY, OKAY, I'LL SEND SO AND SO.
THEY'RE BRENTWOOD RESIDENT, UH, TO GET THE CHEAPER RATE.
AND MIKE HAS TO SAY, NO, HE CAN'T DO THAT.
THAT RESIDENT NEEDS TO BE THE ONE THAT COMES IN TO MAKE THE RESERVATION.
SO WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THE REQUESTS COME, COME IN FROM THE OUTSIDE.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS ON TEAMS, SO RIGHT.
BUT THE PERSON ARE THE ONES MAKING THE RESERVATION NEEDS TO BE THE BRENTWOOD RESIDENT.
BUT IT'S JUST MAKING ALL THOSE RULES.
UH, WE GOT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT, UH, WANT LIGHTS, HAVE RESERVATIONS FOR NIGHTTIME, BUT ONLY ARE GONNA NEED ABOUT AN HOUR'S WORTH OF LIGHTS.
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WALK ON CAN GO ON THERE AND PUSH THE BUTTON AND GET LIGHTS FOR FREE.WE'RE HAVING TO TRY TO EXPLAIN TO 'EM, WELL, I MEAN, YOU CAN DO THAT.
DON'T MAKE A RESERVATION AND CHANCE YOUR LUCK.
UM, BUT YOU'RE PAYING FOR THAT RESERVATION AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GETTING CHARGED FEES AND THEY DON'T QUITE GET THAT YET.
SO IT'S A BUNCH OF RULES TO HAVE TO BE SET UP.
WE HAVE TO PICK UP SEASON BEYOND NOW.
WELL IF, IF WE CAN GET ANYTHING ONLINE FOR YEAH.
EVEN JUST LAST MINUTE SCHEDULING FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S AN ISSUE IS WHAT HAPPENS AS THEY, AS MALTA STARTS UP AND THAT THEIR MATCHES GET RAINED OUT, THEY'RE SCRAMBLING TO FIND A REPLACEMENT.
LIKE JUST SEEING THE CALENDAR MM-HMM.
IS YOUR MATCH GETS RAINED OUT.
YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY WHO'S SUPPOSED TO COME UP FROM MURFREESBORO.
YOU DON'T WANNA TRY AND DO A WALK ON WHEN SOMEBODY'S COMING UP FROM MURFREESBORO TO PLAY YOUR TEAM.
SO YOU'RE WANTING A GUARANTEED SPOT, UM, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ARRANGING FOR FOUR PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.
MAYBE JAMIE CAN AT LEAST LIST ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE AND THEY CAN SEE A SCHEDULE CAN NOT, THEY'LL MAKE A RESERVATION PER SE.
SOMETHING IF IT, IF IT'S JUST EVEN VISIBLE ONLINE.
EVEN IF THEY CAN'T RESERVE, BUT IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, BUT SOMETHING YEAH.
OR WE COULD EVEN MAKE A, 'CAUSE MIKE HAS A, A P OR A THE SPREADSHEET EXCEL.
BUT THAT'S VERY, THAT WE COULD, WE COULD POST DAILY.
'CAUSE IT'S VERY CUMBERSOME TO WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SURE.
TO CALL MIKE AND THEN BY THE TIME YOU CALL HIM AND ARRANGE IT, IT'S POSSIBLY GONE.
SOMETHING THAT'S VISIBLE YEAH.
LET'S, YEAH, LET'S, LET'S TALK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND MAYBE KIND OF AN INTERIM STEP.
BEFORE WE GET FULL THING, BUT EVENTUALLY WE'LL NEED TO, AND MAYBE YOURSELF AND A FEW OTHERS.
TENNIS PEOPLE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH, OKAY, HERE'S OUR PROPOSED, RIGHT.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, RULES WE JUST DO INTUITIVELY YOU GOTTA PROGRAM INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO DO, BUT EVENTUALLY AT THAT POINT.
REAL QUICK, IF BETWEEN COMMISSIONER SMEARS AND SPEARS, I'M SORRY.
AND CHARLES, I KNOW THEY MET WITH A VETERANS GROUP EARLIER THIS WEEK AND KIND OF JUST BRING BACK CONCEPT OF WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE THINKING.
UM, WERE THERE EIGHT PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THE MEETING? YEAH, IT WAS A, IT WAS A LARGE GROUP.
UH, THEY WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE CITY, WHICH WAS FUNNY 'CAUSE WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THEM AND THEIR SERVICE AND THEIR SACRIFICE OF, UH, I'LL STAND UP JUST TO NO, NO, PLEASE.
UM, YEAH, SO IT WAS, WE HAD A GREAT MEETING, UH, GREAT IDEAS.
AND DO YOU JUST WANNA GO THROUGH THE YEAH.
SO THE, THE IDEA IS TO KIND OF KEEP THIS FIRST ONE A LITTLE SMALL, UH, AND HAVE IT ATTACHED TO THE MAY 13TH CITY COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, THE MEETING WOULD START, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO WITH MAYOR GORMAN DOING THE ROLL CALL AND THE COURT ORDER.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE, UH, UH, THE INVOCATION DONE BY ONE OF THE VETERANS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU TALKED TO KRISTEN ABOUT THIS, IT'S FINE.
UH, HAVING A, MAYBE THE RAVENWOOD HIGH SCHOOL BAND OR, UH, J-R-O-T-C PRESENT THE COLORS.
WE'RE WAITING FOR A RESPONSE FROM THEM, BUT THAT COMMUNICATION IS OUT.
AND THEN HAVE THE, UH, THE NATIONAL ANTHEM BY MAYBE THE JUST JAZZ CHOIR.
THEY'LL BE HERE FLY OR BE SUNG.
WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE BACK, UH, BACK WALL HERE.
THEY'VE ALREADY KIND OF DECIDED ON SOME PEOPLE.
AND, UH, WE ALSO WOULD HAVE A, UH, GUEST SPEAKER.
THEY'VE, RIGHT NOW THEY'VE IDENTIFIED SOMEONE, THEY'RE JUST GONNA CHECK WITH HIM, A DISTINGUISHED VETERAN FROM THIS AREA.
UH, PART OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE IS, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, MEMORIAL DAY HAS BECOME SORT OF A WEEKEND CELEBRATION.
THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FOR REMEMBERING SERVICE MEMBERS WHO'VE PASSED AWAY DURING SERVICE, WHETHER THAT'S WAR TIME TRAINING OR SOMETHING RELATED TO THEIR SERVICE.
SO KEEPING IT VERY, UH, RESPECTFUL.
THEN CLOSING WITH A TAPS PERFORMED BY MAYBE A HIGH, ONE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, HOPEFULLY A BHS TRUMPETER.
AND THEN, UH, THEY WOULD RETIRE INTO HERE, UH, FOR A RECEPTION.
WELL, WE WOULD HOPEFULLY HAVE A LIGHT AGENDA THAT NIGHT.
AND, UH,
I MEAN, WE, WE TRY TO, BUT WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF RECESS IF WE NEED TO CLOSE THE WALL AGAIN WHILE THEY DO A RECEPTION IN HERE.
UM, I LOVE THAT Y'ALL ARE INCORPORATING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY KIDS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT'S GREAT TO GIVE ANOTHER GENERATION, UH, UNDERSTANDING SACRIFICES.
THAT'S THE HOPE IS ALSO THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT.
AND YOU MAY HAVE PLANNED SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT SCREEN THAT SOME LITTLE THAT WE USE WOULDN'T, SOME PICTURES OF, OF LIKE SECOND WORLD WAR OR VIETNAM OR WORLD WAR I OR WHATEVER,
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YOU KNOW, OR EVEN LOCAL PEOPLE WHO DIED, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE GOT FAMILY MEMBERS THAT DIED IN SERVICE, HOW THEY CAN PUT TOGETHER TO BE ON THE SCREEN DURING THAT, THAT JUST, WE DON'T HAVE TO COMMENT ON IT.AND IT COULD RUN BEFORE, UM, THE CEREMONY BEGINS ONCE THE CEREMONY BEGINS.
I GUESS THE MINDSET IS IT'S MORE OF A CELEBRATION OF LIFE MEMORIAL SERVICE THAN IT IS, UM, THAN IT IS A ANYTHING ELSE.
SO DURING THE SERVICE WILL BE PUTTING THE IDENTIFICATION OF WHOEVER'S SPEAKING UP ON THAT SCREEN SO THAT EVERYONE CAN KNOW WHO'S SPEAKING, PRAYING, LEADING.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, TAPS IS VERY SOLEMN TO USE YOUR WORD.
AND WE'LL, UM, FI EVERYONE WILL FILE OUT INTO THIS SPACE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE DOOR AND THEN THERE'LL BE THE RECEPTION, A DESSERT RECEPTION.
AND ALSO THEY MENTIONED BRINGING SOME ARTIFACTS FOR VIEWING AND EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES AND PUTTING THEM AROUND THE ROOM FOR THE, SPECIFICALLY THE STUDENTS PARENTS, ANYONE ELSE WHO WAS INTERESTED.
UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT WERE NOT MUNITIONS, SO EVERYTHING WILL BE SAFE.
NO ONE NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT LOOK LIKE THAT, BUT THEY ARE NOT REAL.
SO, UM, AND MAYBE SOME FATIGUES AND ITEMS WORN DURING COMBAT OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, MY DAD STILL HAS HIS, HIS VIETNAM COMBAT BOOTS THAT HE WORE HOME.
SO THERE COULD BE SOME, YOU SAY JUST THE STAR SPAN BANNER.
SO THERE'LL BE THE PLEDGE AND THEN THERE'LL BE THE, THE ANTHEM, THE NATIONAL ANTHEM SUNG.
I'M GLAD IT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE.
I DON'T WANNA GO ANY DEEPER THAN THAT.
I'M GLAD IT'S A SOLEMN CEREMONY.
BECAUSE MEMORIAL DAY IS SO DIFFERENT THAN VETERANS DAY.
AND I THINK THIS IS REAL GOOD.
THE STATISTIC WAS 1.2 MILLION, UM, LIVES LOST FROM THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR TILL TODAY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF LIVES TO HONOR.
I PRESUME THAT THIS IS CHOREOGRAPHED AND IF WE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, WE NEED TO WAIT TILL OUR COMMENTS LATER.
'CAUSE I WAS GONNA SAY, PLEASE DON'T PARADE US ALL UP THERE SPEAKING.
IT NEEDS TO BE THE VETERANS IN THE PLAN PROGRAM.
AND AGAIN, THEY WOULD THEN COME BACK IN HERE WHILE YOU ALL FINISH THE MEETING.
AND THEN, SO WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW IN OUR COMMENTS THAT NIGHT, TRY TO KEEP OUR COMMENTS BRIEF BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY, I THINK THEY WOULD ENJOY INTERACTING WITH US AFTER.
AND I KNOW I WOULD ENJOY INTERACTING WITH THEM
SO AGAIN, WE JUST PROMISED THAT THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT WE WOULD BRING BACK THEIR, THEIR CONCEPTS TO YOU.
SO ASSUMING IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYBODY'S IN FAVOR OF IT, WE'LL LET 'EM CONTINUE TO.
THANK YOU, CHARLES, FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
HE WAS A SUPERSTAR YESTERDAY ON THE TML PRESENTATION WITH PATH, YOU GOT NO LIFE WHATSOEVER.
SO MYSELF AND THE CITY MANAGER FROM SAW THAT COLUMBIA DID.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD, IT WAS SHORT PROGRAM.
WELL, PATH IS A SPONSOR OF TML, SO IT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THEY KIND OF MAKE IT EDUCATIONAL, BUT ALSO GET A LITTLE, GET THEIR OWN RECOGNITION RETURN FOR THE SPONSORS TOO.
BUT I THINK IT WAS OBVI, IT WAS GREAT THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, WHICH IS TRUE.
WE, WE WERE EXPECTING, I THINK WE TOTALED 23 NOTED COMPLAINTS AND SOME OF THEM WERE JUST LIKE, HEY, THE LIGHT'S NOT WORKING.
AND I THINK THEY WENT BACK AND ADJUSTED WHAT THEY COULD AND EVERYONE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD ANYTHING BACK.
I WANTED TO SHARE ONE THING WITH Y'ALL.
Y'ALL REMEMBER BETSY CROSSLEY, OUR FORMER MAYOR, UH, HER FATHER IS 99 YEARS OLD AND IS ONE OF THE SURVIVORS OF THE ATTACK AT PEARL HARBOR.
THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT 50 OF THOSE LEFT.
AND I WAS HAVING LUNCH WITH HER ONE DAY.
WE'D LIKE TO MEET JUST TO CATCH UP SOMETIMES.
HE TEXTED NINE, NINE YEARS OLD, TEXTING AND HE SAID, YOU NEED TO NOTIFY.
HE'S IN AN ASSISTED LIVING, BUT JUST SHARP AS A, YOU NEED TO NOTIFY THEM THAT THE WIFI IS NOT WORKING.
I CAN'T SEEM TO GET ANYBODY TO LISTEN TO ME.
A GREAT GUY, 99 YEARS OLD, YOU KNOW, DOING THAT.
HE WAS THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS WHERE HE, WHERE HE LIVED SHARP AS ATTACK AND STILL, STILL ALIVE TODAY.
HOPEFULLY HE CAN COME, HOPEFULLY HE CAN COME TO OUR MAY 13TH.
I THINK HE'S, WELL HE WENT TO THAT MEMORIAL THING IN WASHINGTON WITH A BUNCH OF VETERANS WHEN THEY OPENED THAT, UM, WHEN THEY DID THAT.
I MEAN, HE WAS IN A WHEELCHAIR, BUT HE'S STILL SMART AS HE CAN BE AND ACTIVE.
AND I JUST, I THINK HOW LONG IT'S BEEN SINCE PEARL HARBOR, WHAT A HORRIBLE DAY THAT MUST HAVE BEEN.
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LEFT.AND SAYING WIFI MADE ME THINK OF THIS.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY AT T PROBLEMS WITH THE NATIONAL OUTAGE OR I ASKED SARAH THIS MORNING, AS OF NOW, NO, SHE HAS AT TS SHE SAYS SHE WAS FINE.
RUBEN WOOD STUD THAT SAYS S OS RIGHT HERE.
IF YOU'RE ON AT T SOMEBODY, I'LL SAY, IF YOU REMEMBER, AFTER THE CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBING, WE ENDED UP, ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY UNITS HAVE A DUAL WIFI, WIFI CARD, SO THEY CAN DO VERIZON OR AT T.
BUT AS OF EIGHT O'CLOCK THIS MORNING WHEN I TALKED TO HER, WE WEREN'T HAVING ANY PROBLEMS. I, I CAN'T SAY ABOUT COMMUNITY, BUT WE WERE NOT HAPPY.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.
REMEMBER SIX 30 ON MONDAY NIGHT? YEP.