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ALL RIGHT, I LIKE THAT START.[ Brentwood City Commission Briefing January 4, 2024 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda Following discussion of the January 9th Agenda, the below items will be discussed: Proposed new police shift schedule Direction on length of term for new city judge appointment Discussion on proposed adoption schedule for flood ordinance revisions Commission direction regarding citizen request for consideration of a City Memorial Day event Review/Discussion on draft policy regarding contributions to recreational and community service providers This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Board of Commissioners to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
YEAH.VERY LIGHT AGENDA TO KIND OF EASE BACK INTO YEAR AFTER ABOUT A MONTH OFF OR SO.
SO WE'LL BREEZE THROUGH THAT PRETTY QUICKLY HERE.
THEN OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LIST OF SEVERAL ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT.
SOME WILL TAKE MORE TIME THAN OTHERS, I THINK, BUT, UH, NO, UH, PRE-MEETINGS OR ANYTHING.
SO 7:00 PM ON TUESDAY, REMEMBER, NOT MONDAY.
PROBABLY MIGHT SEND A REMINDER ON MONDAY THAT IT IS TUESDAY
UM, WE DO HAVE AN OATH OF OFFICE FOR A NEW POLICE OFFICER.
FIRST ITEM IS AN AGREEMENT WITH MIDDLE TENNESSEE ELECTRIC FOR THE RELOCATION OF THEIR FACILITIES AS PART OF THE RAGSDALE ROAD WIDENING PROJECT.
UH, WE'VE GOT SOME DRAWINGS IN THERE.
WE WON'T TRY TO GO OVER THAT IN A LOT OF DETAIL.
UM, THEY'VE GOTTA MOVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF THEIR LINES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
AND OUR COST, OR OUR COST ON THAT TO PAY THEM FOR RELOCATION AND EASEMENT ACQUISITIONS IS ESTIMATED A LITTLE OVER $124,000.
UM, AGAIN, WE'RE ON SCHEDULE TRACK TO BE BIDDING THAT SARAH CATHERINE SUMMER.
AND THEN START CONSTRUCTION IN THE FALL.
QUICK QUESTION, DID, DID, WAS THERE ANY REASON TO CONSIDER PUTTING THEM UNDER UNDERGROUND? OR IS THAT IF THEY'RE MOVING 'EM ALL AND DOING ALL THAT STUFF UP THERE TIME, YOU CAN MULTIPLY THAT PROBABLY BY, I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE.
IT'LL BE INSTEAD OF 124,000, IT'D BE A FEW MILLION DOLLARS.
SO, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE PLENTY OF CONSIDERATION,
THAT WOULD ALL BE OUR COST THOUGH.
I GET ASKED EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WHILE WE'RE NOT ALL ON OUR GROUND.
AND I, IF WE WERE GONNA DO IT IN SOME PLACES, I'M NOT SURE THIS AREA OF TOWN WOULD BE THE PLACE TO DO IT.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER PLACES, BUT YEAH.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY WOULD, BUT IF THEY WOULD, IT WOULD BE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO IT, SO.
UH, ITEM TWO IS JUST KIND OF OUR PERIODIC ACCEPTANCE OF NEW STREETS THAT ARE IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE, UM, BEEN TOPPED IN, MET OUR INSPECTIONS.
SO YOU'VE GOT, UH, STREET AND PRESERVER, OUR WOODS TRADITIONS, SEVERAL SECTIONS.
THE HEIGHTS, BOTH THE HEIGHTS AND PRESERVE, I THINK ARE ONE OF THOSE JUST ONE CUL-DE-SAC, A FEW LOTS AROUND THEM TYPE THINGS.
AND THEN, UH, NOT THE LAST STREET IN WITHERSPOON, BUT I THINK MAYBE THE SECOND TO THE LAST STREET.
SO AGAIN, THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN TOPPED, INSPECTED, AND THEY STILL ARE IN A MAINTENANCE BOND PERIOD.
THERE SHOULD BE, ITEM THREE IS JUST A CLOSE OUT CHANGE ORDER WITH AMERICAN CONSTRUCTORS FOR FIRE STATION FIVE.
DOESN'T CHANGE ANY DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY COMING IN $776 UNDER
SO IT'S BETTER THAN COMING TO YOU WITH AN OVER
SO REALLY ALL THIS DOES IS IT CLOSES OUT AND IT RESETS THE, UM, THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE, BECAUSE THAT IS A, IS AN ISSUE WITH THEM IN TERMS OF THEIR GENERAL CONDITIONS AND ALL THAT.
BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD TO WAIT ON SEVERAL PIECES OF ELECTRONICS.
SO WE JUST, THIS HAS ALL BEEN SETTLED FOR A WHILE.
WE JUST WAITED THAT THE ONE YEAR WARRANTY PERIOD JUST GOT UP IN DECEMBER.
AND SO WE JUST KINDA WAITED TILL THAT TO DO THE FINAL CLOSE OUT.
SO THEY FINALLY GOT EVERYTHING THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO AT THAT STATION.
TOOK A WHILE ON LIKE LOCKERS OR SOMETHING AND YEAH, THERE WAS, YEAH, I THINK LOCKERS WERE ACTUALLY THE FINAL THINGS.
THE FIRST SET CAME AND HALF OF 'EM WERE DENTED UP AND ALL THAT.
AND SO THAT, BUT YEAH, EVERYTHING IS IN, UM, THE LAST, UM, WHAT AM I SAYING? NOT CHECKLIST, BUT UH, PUNCH LIST.
PUNCH LIST ITEM WAS SOME, UM, MOLDING AROUND THE BAY FLOORS WHERE IT COMES UP ON THE WALL AND ALL THAT.
AND THAT GOT DONE, UH, LAST FALL.
SO, SO AGAIN, THIS JUST CLOSES IT OUT AND, AND AGAIN, TECHNICALLY RETURNS $776 TO US.
WE NEVER PAID IT, BUT ALL ITEM FOUR IS, UH, ACCEPTING OF A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT FROM THE ANA SUBDIVISION FOR THE SECTION OF THE TRAIL THAT RUNS ALONG CONCORD ROAD FROM FRANKLIN ROAD BACK TO THAT FIRST CHURCH DRIVE.
UH, SO THEY BUILT THE TRAIL, MAJORITY OF IT, TODD, OR AT LEAST A PORTION OF IT IS IN THEIR OPEN SPACE.
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AND A FEW OTHER SUBDIVISIONS, WHEN IT'S ON, NOT IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THE PLATT REQUIRES THAT, THAT 15 FEET OR WHAT'S THE WIDTH OF 10 FOOT, 20 FOOT WIDE? BASICALLY, IT'S A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT.SO THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THE HOA COULDN'T TRY TO BLOCK THE PUBLIC FROM USING IT.
AND AGAIN, WE HAVE SIMILAR SITUATIONS IN ROSEBROOK, CRIM, FARM TRIM, FARM WITHERSPOON, THOSE KIND OF THINGS WHERE IT'S THE TRAIL.
IT'S PART OF A, A, HOPEFULLY A FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE PUBLIC NETWORK, BUT IT'S ON THEIR OPEN SPACE.
SO WE HAVE THESE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENTS, BUT THEY'LL STILL MOW IT AND EVERYTHING.
THE, WE ADD LANGUAGE IN THERE.
WE, WE DIDN'T DO THIS THE FIRST COUPLE TIMES, BUT THE LAST FEW WE DID, WHERE IT'S BASICALLY OUR MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE FOR THE STRUCTURE OF THE TRAIL ONLY.
WE'RE NOT MOWING THE GRASS OR BLOWING LEAVES OR ANYTHING ELSE.
SO THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON MONDAY NIGHT, TUESDAY NIGHT.
UH, ITEM FIVE IS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MARRIOTT TO HOST THE EMPLOYEE DINNER IN NEXT FALL.
THAT DATE, IF YOU WANT TO GET IT ON YOUR CALENDARS.
NOVEMBER 8TH, RIGHT? APRIL? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
APPROXIMATE COST IS ESTIMATED TO BE AROUND 25,000.
UH, PLUS THEIR FEES, FINAL COST OBVIOUSLY WOULD DEPEND UPON THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UH, THAT COME AND THE PER PERSON COST.
HOW, HOW DID THE REVIEWS COME FOR THE MURDER MYSTERY? UM, THEY
IT WAS, IT WAS SOMETHING NICE AND DIFFERENT, I THINK.
UM, THE PEOPLE WHO CAME ENJOYED IT.
I THINK IT COULD HAVE WENT A LITTLE BIT SHORTER.
UM, I THINK WAS THE MAIN THING ABOUT IT.
I JUST WONDERED HOW OTHER PEOPLE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA DO EVERY YEAR.
DID YOU MEAN EVER AGAIN,
IT SEEMS LIKE THE, UH, THE SOCIAL TIME BEFORE THE DINNER WAS SEEMED REALLY POPULAR.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON.
IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF THESE FOLKS WHO DON'T SEE EACH OTHER IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF WORK AND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO GET TOGETHER.
AND THAT WAS PROBABLY A COMMENT TOO, THAT I HEARD A LOT WAS IT WAS SO BUSY THAT NIGHT WITH EVERYTHING THAT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME FOR THE SOCIALIZING.
SO WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND IT WAS JUST AN IMPRESSION.
I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA AROUND IT, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT, THAT, THAT BEEN IN THE CITY FOR SO LONG THAT THEY'VE WORKED TOGETHER AND HAVEN'T, THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY IN THE SAME ROLE OR THE SAME DEPARTMENT CATCHING UP WITH OLD FRIENDS THAT THEY USED TO WORK WITH.
SO THERE SEEMS LIKE THERE'S JUST A WHOLE LOT OF THAT, THAT, THAT ADD A LOT OF VALUE.
AND, AND THE, THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE, AGAIN, I DON'T DWELL ON THIS, BUT THE MURDER MYSTERY IS MORE, YOU KNOW, YOU INTENDED TO KIND OF STAY AT YOUR TABLE AND, AND WHATEVER.
WHEREAS SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, THE POKER NIGHT OR THE HORSE RACING, IS YOU GET UP AND YOU CAN MINGLE AND SOCIALIZE AND DRINK AND STILL KIND OF PARTICIPATE.
AND I THINK THAT GOES OVER A LITTLE BETTER FOR THE REASONS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
NELSON IS PEOPLE ARE, SOME PEOPLE I SAT WITH WORKED REALLY HARD TRYING TO SOLVE THE MURDER MYSTERY
I COULDN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT WHO'D BEEN KILLED.
I, I MEAN, BUT, BUT THE FOOD WAS GOOD.
I THOUGHT WAS BETTER THAN OTHER THAT WE'D HAD HIM OTHER YEARS.
ITEM SIX IS A PURCHASE OF SEVEN VEHICLES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I MAY JUST ASK, SOME OF THESE ARE PATROL, SOME ARE ADMIN.
UM, WE GOT TWO TAHOES, ACTUALLY FOUR TAHOES, UH, TWO SILVERADOS AND A JEEP WRANGLER.
SO I MAY LET RICHARD EXPLAIN WHO'S, WHO'S GETTING WHAT OR WHERE'S WHAT'S GOING WHERE.
WELL, I WOULD SAY THE FOUR TAHOES WILL BE FOR PATROL USE.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TWO CHEVROLET POLICE PACKAGE PICKUP TRUCKS THIS YEAR.
WE, WE NEED A PICKUP TRUCK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FOR CERTAIN EVENTS.
WE DO A LOT OF THE, LIKE 4TH OF JULY, WE PUT THE CONES OUT OURSELVES.
WE TRY NOT TO TASK TODD SKI TOO MUCH.
BUT WE TRY TO DO OUR OWN WORK WHEN WE CAN.
UH, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO BORROW TRUCKS FROM THEM TO PULL OUR CONE TRAILERS, PUT OUT
IT'S A 2007 DODGE THAT, UH, I'M SURPRISED IT'S STILL RUNNING, QUITE HONESTLY.
UM, BUT, SO WE WANT TO TRY THOSE PICKUP TRUCKS.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE USED FOR DAILY PATROL USE.
WE'RE GONNA ASSIGN 'EM TO THE PATROL CAPTAIN AND THE CAPTAIN BE THE MOST USEFUL, UH, AREAS FOR THOSE TRAINING GUYS WHEN THEY GO DO TACTICAL TRAINING, THEY HAVE HEAVY BARRICADES.
THEY NEED TO HAUL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
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NEED PICK UP TRUCKS.SO WE WANT TO TRY A COUPLE OF THOSE.
AND THE FOUR-DOOR JEEP IS GOING TO BE A DE VEHICLE.
WE'RE FINALLY GOING TO REPLACE THE OLD CAR THAT SAM BEATTY USED TO DRIVE THE DODGE CHALLENGER.
UH, THAT CAR IS 13 YEARS OLD NOW.
IT HAS BECOME A MONEY PIT FOR MAINTENANCE.
AND WE JUST THINK IT'S TIME TO REPLACEMENT, REPLACE IT.
OBVIOUSLY WE WON'T DO SOMETHING THAT WILL, WE CAN STRIPE UP AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, ATTRACT ATTENTION FOR KIDS.
SO YEAH, ALL THOSE ARE ON THE STATE CONTRACT.
SO THE EASY IS PURCHASE FOR US AND WE THINK THEY'RE AVAILABLE OR, AND A REASONABLE, WE THINK THEY'RE ALL AVAILABLE.
WE ORIGINALLY WERE TOLD THAT WE, THE TAHOES WERE NOT GONNA BE AVAILABLE, BUT THERE WAS A WINDOW THAT CAME OPEN.
I GUESS CHEVROLET CHANGED THEIR MIND ON ORDERING AND CALLED AND SAID, WE'LL TAKE ORDERS IF YOU WANNA GET 'EM IN QUICKLY.
SO, UH, WE THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET 'EM IN THE SPRING.
SO DO YOU HAVE A PARKING SPOT LONG ENOUGH FOR A SILVERADO CREW CAB? WE DO.
IT'D BE WAY IN THE BACK, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
UM, SO AGAIN, ALL ON STATE CONTRACT, A COUPLE DIFFERENT, UM, VENDORS.
DODGE JEEP, RAM OF COLUMBIA, AND, UH, WILSON COUNTY.
WILSON COUNTY MOTORS FOR THE CHEVROLETS.
UM, AND AGAIN, ALL PROGRAMMED WITHIN THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
UH, AND THEN SEVEN IS PURCHASING, UM, REPLACEMENT BATTERIES FOR OUR MOTOROLA RADIOS.
UM, THE RADIOS, I THINK THE GOOD NEWS HERE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE RADIOS ARE LASTING LONGER THAN WE THOUGHT THEY MIGHT, BUT THE BATTERIES NEED TO BE REPLACED.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA PROPOSE TO REPLACE THE BATTERIES FOR ALL OF OUR RADIOS.
UM, AND EACH, EACH ONE GETS TWO BATTERIES.
AND THIS IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND NON-PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND THEN YOU, THE NEW BUSINESS IS JUST THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF, UH, FUTURE APPOINTMENT OF TWO MEMBERS TO THE BZA.
I THOUGHT WE APPOINTED TWO MEMBERS LAST, OR ONE MEMBER LAST SUMMER OR FALL.
BECAUSE I THOUGHT, SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE FULL TERMS. SHE KNOWS LISA ROTHMAN AND TOM SPILLANE.
UH, AND JUST A HEADS UP, UM, THE COUNTY BOARD OF EQUALIZATION, YOU KNOW, JOHN MAJOR HAS BEEN YOUR REP THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
HE'S LET US KNOW, LET THEM KNOW AND LET US KNOW THAT HE'S NOT, NOT INTERESTED IN CONTINUING.
SO THAT ANNOUNCEMENT OF THAT WILL BE COMING UP AT ONE OF THE FUTURE NEEDS NEEDS.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF A SPECIALIZED, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T, THERE'S NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR SPECIAL THINGS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, LIKE JOHN, JOHN WAS GOOD BECAUSE OF REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND AND ALL THAT.
SO, AND THE LAST COUPLE TIMES WE'VE ANNOUNCED THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOT ANY OTHER INTEREST THAN HIM.
SO I GUESS KIND OF SAYING THAT IN CASE, WELL, THERE'S NO UPSIDE TO IT,
I MEAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE EITHER IT'S JUST WORK.
IT'S A LOT OF WORK IN A VERY CONFINED PERIOD OF TIME THAT REACH YOU.
UM, BUT IF YOU KNOW FOLKS WHO MIGHT HAVE A GOOD FEEL FOR THAT, JUST KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND IS THAT WE ANNOUNCED THAT, I THINK THE SCHEDULE IS TO MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT IN APRIL.
APRIL KIRK, WE HAVE PARKS BOARD AND JOHN SHANE.
OH, HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT REHABING.
I MEAN THAT'S THE NORMAL APPOINTMENT.
ARE THOSE ARE THE PARK BOARD ONES OPEN NOW? NO, THAT'LL BE COMING UP TOO.
ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE HEADS UP ON THE EQUALIZATION.
JUST ONE THING WASN'T ON, I DIDN'T WRITE YOU ON THIS.
JUST SINCE OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, I'VE HAD SEVERAL CALLS, UH, JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW.
THERE'S A PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED FOR PARKSIDE AT BRENTHAVEN.
UM, IT'S, THERE'S 39 LOTS ON 40 ACRES.
UH, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS THAT MUCH LAND BACK THERE UNTIL WE SEEN IT'S ALL GONE BY.
IT'S THE LAST, IT'S THE LAST SECTIONS OF IT.
BUT, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE READING AGENDAS SEE THAT AND THEY'RE THINKING WE'RE DOING SOMETHING.
THEY'VE BEEN CALLING ME SAYING, ARE WE DOING SOMETHING? THIS, THIS IS EMPTY LAND.
WELL, IT'S 39 ACRES ON 40 LOTS.
'CAUSE THEY GAVE THE CITY 45 ACRES BACK IN THE RIGHT EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.
I MEAN 39 LOTS THAT ARE GONNA OPEN UP THROUGH THERE.
WHICH ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE WHO CALLED ME WERE KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE, THERE WERE LOTS BACK THERE.
IT'S ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE RIVER FROM THE CONNECTION FROM, UM, WHERE THE TRAIL, YOU KNOW, GOES FROM CROCKETT TO, AND I GUESS WE COULD PULL IT UP CROCKETT TO, TO THE Y WHERE IT BRANCHES OFF AND HEADS TOWARDS MOORE'S
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LANE AND ALL THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER ALAMO HMM.BUT THERE'LL BE, UH, AND AND WE'LL SEND YOU A, A PICTURE OF IT OR A PLAN OF IT.
JUST 'CAUSE IT WAS ALL, BUT THE 39 LOTS ARE ACTUALLY FIVE LOTS LESS THAN WHAT WAS WAS APPROVED THE LAST TIME IT CAME THROUGH.
I REMEMBER WHEN THE MIDDLE OF BRETT HAVEN, WHEN KNOX VALLEY USED TO NOT CUT THROUGH FROM YEAH.
UH, DEVIN'S DOWN TO, TO, UM, MARYLAND.
UH, SO THIS IS AT THAT, THAT BACK, I'D LIKE TO SAY.
SO THE LAND THEY GAVE US IS WHERE THAT TRAIL CONNECTION IS NOW THAT RUNS ALONG THE RIVER UP TO NORTHLAND.
I'M JUST JUST MAKING YOU AWARE.
I WONDER IF THERE'LL BE ALL THE HUMONGOUS HOUSES.
IT'S OSRD LOT, NORMAL HOUSE, BE SMALL, LOTS AND WORLD.
MOSTLY, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE TRAIL AND THE WEEL ROAD CONNECTION THERE WHERE IT MAKES THE TURN AND THERE'S THE BRIDGE OVER TO WEEL ROAD, WHERE IF YOU'RE APPROACHING THAT FROM CROCKETT TO YOUR LEFT THERE ACROSS THE RIVER, SOME OF THOSE LOTS SIT UP PRETTY HIGH.
SO THERE'LL BE VISIBLE HOMES THAT'LL BE BEING CONSTRUCTED THERE.
LIKE I SAID, MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT'S PART OF THE PARK.
SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL THINK WE'RE SELLING PARKLAND.
UH, THERE'S SOMETHING CASUALLY BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
UH, I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST WITH US, UH, ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
UM, THERE'S A, UH, A YOUNG MAN, UH, THAT IS, UM, HE'S A STUDENT AT LIPSCOMB ELEMENTARY.
UM, UH, LIPSCOMB DID A, UM, MAYOR FOR A DAY, UH, SILENT AUCTION.
UH, AND SO GRAYSON WILL BE, UH, JOINING US ON, UH, SOMEONE PAID TO SPEND THE DAY WITH YOU.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?
WE'RE EXCITED TO, UH, TO HAVE HIM.
UM, HE HAS AN INTEREST IN, UH, IN GOVERNMENT AND, UH, HIS FAMILY CALLS HIM THE MAYOR.
'CAUSE HE'S ALWAYS LIKE RUNNING AROUND SHAKING HANDS WITH EVERYBODY.
YOU WANT US TO PULL UP A CHAIR IF WE CHAIR, WOULD IT BE FUN? YEAH.
UM, BUT, UM, WE'LL LET HIM, UM, DO SOME OF THE CEREMONIAL PARTS OF, UH, GOOD.
THE MEETING AND, UH, AND THAT COOL.
THERE WAS A FAMOUS ONE IN MEMPHIS.
WHAT'S HIS BOY'S NAME? SO WE'LL BE PREPARED.
WHO DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL? LIPSCOMB ELEMENTARY.
TRY TO GET THROUGH MOST OF THIS PRETTY QUICKLY.
SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WON'T TAKE VERY LONG.
UM, WHILE RICHARD'S HERE, JUST WANT HIM TO TALK ABOUT, UM, KINDA WHERE THEY'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO HEAD WITH, UH, MAKING SOME CHANGES TO OUR SHIFTS, SHIFT SCHEDULES.
ERIC TOLD ME I HAD TO STAND RIGHT HERE SO HE COULD KICK ME IF I WENT ON TOO LONG.
SO I'M GONNA STAND RIGHT HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE CAME TO YOU ASKING TO ADD STAFFING SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE COULD EVENTUALLY MOVE TO 10 HOUR SHIFTS FOR OUR PATROL.
FOUR DAY WORK WEEK, 10 HOUR SHIFTS.
AND I, I TOLD KIRK, I FEEL LIKE IT'S ALMOST BECOME THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG.
RIGHT NOW WE NEED ABOUT 75 PEOPLE TO DO 10 HOUR SHIFTS COMFORTABLY TO ACCOUNT FOR VACATION, SICK COURT TRAINING, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
BUT WE'RE NOT, STILL NOT GETTING THE NUMBERS THAT TO COME TEST WITH US THAT WE CAN HIRE TO GET TO 75 PEOPLE.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND WE THINK ONE OF THE REASONS IS WE DON'T HAVE 10 HOUR SHIFTS.
SO WE NEED 75 BECAUSE MOST, MOST OF OUR SURROUNDING, MOST OF THE SURROUNDING AGENCIES HAVE EITHER A 10 HOUR OR A 12 HOUR WORK SCHEDULE.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE 12 HOUR WORK SCHEDULE.
A LOT OF THE SMALLER AGENCIES HAVE A 12 HOUR WORK SCHEDULE, BUT AGENCIES CLOSER TO OUR SIZE HAVE A 10 HOUR WORK SCHEDULE.
SO WE ACTUALLY JUST LOST SOMEBODY THAT I OFFERED A JOB TO IN, IN NOVEMBER WHO WENT TO A DIFFERENT AGENCY.
UH, BECAUSE THEY HAD A 10 HOUR WORK SCHEDULE.
IT'S ONE LESS DAY THAT HE HAS TO COMMUTE TO WORK.
THAT'S ONE LESS DAY OF CHILDCARE.
SO WE THINK THAT'S STILL A BIG PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT WE'RE MISSING AS FAR AS ATTRACTING PEOPLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, TODAY WE'RE STILL EIGHT PEOPLE SHORT.
AS WE LOOK AHEAD, WE KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME RETIREMENTS COMING THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF THAT'S GONNA PUT US EVEN FARTHER BEHIND.
SO WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO ATTRACT SOME GOOD CANDIDATES.
AND WE THINK THAT ONE OF THE MISSING PIECES IS THAT 10 HOUR SHIFT SCHEDULE.
SO WE STILL FEEL LIKE WE NEED 75 PEOPLE TO GET THERE TO DO IT COMFORTABLY.
BUT WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LEAP OF FAITH.
AND IN THE MARCH WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO A 10 HOUR WORK SCHEDULE, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE RUNNING PRETTY SLIM.
BUT QUITE HONESTLY, WHEN I LOOK
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BACK AT THE PAST YEAR WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN RUNNING PRETTY SLIM.AND THIS IS NOT GONNA MAKE US ANY SLIMMER THAN WHERE WE'VE BEEN.
BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME DAILY MONITORING OF OUR SCHEDULE BY OUR SUPERVISORS WHO ARE GOING TO BE, UM, HAVING PEOPLE MOVE THEIR DAYS OFF TO ACCOUNT FOR VACATION TIME AND DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
UM, BUT OUR GUYS ARE WILLING TO BE VERY, VERY FLEXIBLE.
SO I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OUR DEPARTMENT MEETING IN DECEMBER AND WE PUT OUT AN ANONYMOUS SURVEY TO EVERYBODY.
'CAUSE I, I DIDN'T WANNA ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY WANTED TO DO THIS.
I WANT TO, I WANNA HEAR FROM THEM.
100% OF THE PEOPLE SAID THEY WANTED 10 HOUR SHIFTS.
I TOLD KIRK, I SAID IF I, I THINK IF WE PUT OUT A SURVEY WHO WOULD LIKE A $300? WE WOULDN'T GET A HUNDRED PERCENT
RIGHT? BUT WE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT ON 10 HOUR SHIFTS.
SO I THINK THAT TELLS YOU HOW BIG A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THIS IS.
UH, AND WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TRY TO MOVE TO 10 HOUR SHIFTS TO END OF MARCH.
SO ON THE, UM, TRANSPORTATION ALLOWANCE THAT WE PRORATE BASED ON DAYS OF THE HOW MANY DAYS A WEEK THEY COME IN, WE, WE WON'T CHANGE THAT.
WELL THE POLICE HAD IT ORIGINALLY AND THAT WAS MORE TOWARDS THE ALTERNATIVE OF A TAKE HOME CAR.
RIGHT? SO THAT ISSUE REALLY DOESN'T MATTER.
DAYS OF THE WEEK, WE WON'T CHANGE THAT.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY SEE A DIP IN THEIR PAYCHECK A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT'S SLIM? WELL, SO ON WEEKEND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE DO OUR SHIFT SCHEDULES BASED ON CALLS FOR SERVICE.
ONE OF OUR BUSIEST TIMES, ONE OF OUR SLOWEST TIMES, AND STILL FOR US LIKE WEEKEND DAY SHIFT IS, IS FAIRLY SLOW.
SO ON WEEKEND DAY SHIFT, WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE SCHEDULED TO WORK.
WHICH MEANS ONE PERSON TAKES A VACATION, ONE PERSON CALLS IN SICK.
NOW WE'RE AT MINIMUM STAFFING.
UH, SO IF WE KNOW WE HAVE A VACATION COME UP, WE MAY ASK SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE WEEKEND OFF, HEY, CAN YOU WORK THIS WEEKEND? LET'S, LET'S MOVE YOUR DAYS OFF TO TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY THIS WEEK.
CAN YOU WORK THE WEEKEND? AND THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.
SO, BUT WE'LL STILL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF PATROLS ON A DAILY BASIS.
THAT WAS, I THOUGHT THAT WAS CRITICAL.
ANOTHER BENEFIT OF 10 HOUR SHIFTS IS THERE WILL BE SOME OVERLAP IN TIME.
SO OUR BIGGEST OVERLAP IN TIME WILL BE BETWEEN NOON AND 4:00 PM WHEN OUR DAY SHIFT AND EVENING SHIFT WILL BOTH BE HERE.
NOW I DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA BENEFIT US IN THE SHORT TERM, BUT IN THE LONG TERM, WITHOUT OVERLAP, WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOME THINGS LIKE DO SOME TRAINING DURING THAT TIME THAT WE'RE HAVING TO PAY PEOPLE OVERTIME TO COME IN AND DO NOW.
SO EVENTUALLY IF WE CAN GET OUR STAFFING UP, I THINK IT'LL SAVE THE CITY SOME OVERTIME THAT WE'RE HAVING TO PAY TO DO TRAINING NOW.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT OVERLAPPING TIME THAT WE CAN DO TRAINING IN.
SO THERE'LL STILL BE SOME, THERE'LL BE SOME BENEFIT THAT WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF CARS ON THE STREET BETWEEN 12.
THERE'LL TIMES OF THE DAY WE'LL HAVE MORE THAN WE HAVE TODAY.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER TIMES WHERE WE'LL STILL BE PRETTY THIN.
I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION, SOMETHING THAT I'VE JUST THOUGHT OF RECENTLY AND I WONDERED IF Y'ALL HAVE ADDRESSED THIS AT ALL.
UH, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE AND WE'VE LOST A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT KNOW BRENTWOOD REALLY WELL.
THEY LIVE HERE AND A LOT OF 'EM AREN'T EVEN FROM THE STATE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF COMMUNITY ORIENTATION TO INTRODUCE THEM TO? WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE BRENTWOOD WAY, AND I DON'T MEAN THAT WE CATER TO BRENTWOOD CITIZENS, THAT THE LAW IS THE LAW, BUT DO YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF ORIENTATION WHERE THEY GET THEY KNOW WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE POLICING AND WHAT'S EXPECTED? ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S PART OF OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM.
THAT'S PART OF THE PROGRAM WHEN THAT WE'VE DONE FOR YEARS.
PART OF THE PROGRAM I WENT THROUGH WHEN I STARTED OKAY.
UH, THAT WE, THEY, YOU GET AN INTRODUCTION TO BROOKLYN.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH OR TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO HAVE THEM LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, A LOT OF THAT TAKES CARE OF ITSELF.
BUT WHEN THEY, THEY DON'T, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN OBSTACLE FOR THEM.
AND I WONDERED IF WE WERE DOING ANYTHING TO MAKE THAT EASIER FOR THEM.
SO CHIEF, I, I KNOW WHEN, IN LIKE A ONE SHIFT OR TWO SHIFT WORLD, UH, WORKS WHEN YOU MOVE TO, YOU KNOW, FROM EIGHT TO 10 HOURS AND HAVE A 10 HOUR WORKDAY OR, UH, FROM 16 TO 20 HOUR WORKDAY, WE CAN'T REALLY MOVE TO A 30 HOUR WORKDAY.
HOW DOES THREE SHIFTS WORK WITH WITH A 10 HOUR WORKDAY? WELL, WE'LL JUST HAVE SOME OVERLAPPING TIME.
SO, SO IS THAT JUST ADMIN TIME OR THEY JUST DO THEIR ADMIN TIME AT THE END? OR? IT CAN BE, BUT HOPEFULLY THE WAY WE'VE WAY WE'VE, UH, ARRANGED THE SHIFTS.
OUR, OUR BUSIEST TIME OF THE DAY IS THE AFTERNOON.
SO DAY SHIFT AND EVENING SHIFT ARE GONNA OVERLAP FROM NOON TO 4:00 PM WE'LL HAVE BOTH THE DAY SHIFT AND THE EVENING SHIFT HERE GOTCHA.
DURING SOME OF OUR BUSIEST TIMES.
SO THERE'S A REAL BENEFIT TO THAT FROM LOT.
AND OUR MIDNIGHT SHIFT AND OUR DAY SHIFT IS GONNA OVERLAP AN HOUR.
SO THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN THE MORNING, MORNING TIME'S, USUALLY OUR SLOWEST TIME.
BUT THE, JUST LIKE YOU'VE SAID, THERE'S SOME ADMINISTRATIVE TIME.
IF THEY GOTTA FINISH UP REPORTS, DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT
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MAYBE WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY OVERTIME ON.THEY CAN FINISH IT UP WHILE THEY'RE ON DUTY.
WHAT POSITION IS IN CHARGE OF SCHEDULING AND MAKING ALL THIS WORK? NICK SURRY HAS DONE THE BULK OF THE WORK.
SO HE'S DONE THE BULK OF THE WORK WHEN IT COMES TO FIGURING THIS OUT.
AND UH, 'CAUSE IT IS BEEN A CHALLENGE QUITE HONESTLY.
AND OF COURSE FOR HR I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TOO.
IT REALLY WON'T BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE EVERYBODY WILL BE WORKING IN THEORY THE SAME NUMBER OF HOURS THAT THEY HAVE.
IT'S JUST SO THE SHIFT PART OF IT IS REALLY ON THEM.
WE HAVE ANOTHER TEST COMING UP NEXT WEEK, RECRUIT THEM.
WE ARE TESTING ON THE 16TH, IS THAT RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO, YES.
THEY, THEY WERE ADVERTISING ON 1 0 4 THIS MORNING TO, UH, BEGIN YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER.
THEY NEED PRISON GUARDS,
I THOUGHT YOU WAS SAID PRISON ARTS.
I HOPE WE'RE NOT LOSING ANYBODY TO PRISON GUARD.
BUT I, I MEAN THAT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW SHORT EVERYTHING IS.
THEY'RE ADVERTISING ON 1 0 4 0.5.
I'M SURE THAT COST A LOT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW.
HEY, RICHARD, AS IT RELATES TO THE SCHEDULING, WILL PEOPLE HAVE FIXED DAYS MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY? YES.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE BID THE SHIFTS AND DAYS OFF BASED ON SENIORITY.
UH, WE TYPICALLY DO THAT IN JULY.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO IT NEXT MONTH.
BUT EVERYBODY'S GONNA BID DAYS OFF AND SHIFTS.
BUT THEY KNOW THEY'VE GOTTA BE FLEXIBLE FOR A WHILE UNTIL WE GET OUR STAFFING LEVEL UP.
SO YOU'LL BE SKINNIER ON SOME DAYS, UM, IF YOU WILL YES.
AND YOU'RE GONNA MATCH THAT UP BASED ON TYPICAL CALLS OR WHATEVER.
WHEN'S YOUR VIDEO COME OUT? THAT RECRUITMENT VIDEO? WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT A MINUTE AGO.
NICK HAS BEEN, FRAN BAY'S BEEN WORKING ON IT.
HE SENT US A, A DRAFT THIS MORNING, A DRAFT THIS MORNING.
SO WE'VE GOT SEVERAL COMING OUT.
WHERE WILL THAT GO? I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT IT.
UM, WHAT PLATFORMS WE'RE GONNA PUT IT ON OR HOW WE'RE GONNA GET IT OUT PAGE AND THEN BE USED EVERYWHERE.
WE'LL PUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ON THE WEBSITE, WE'LL SEND IT TO CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROGRAMS AT UNIVERSITIES AND OTHER PLACES.
BRITTANY ALSO ATTACHES THEM TO ALL THE, UM, POSTINGS SO THAT CAN SEE THEM.
SO IT'LL GIVE US, NOW WE'VE GOT SOME VIDEOS, SOME RECRUITMENT VIDEOS TYPICALLY DO THE SAME ONE EVERY TIME.
SO IT'LL GIVE US SOME TO THAT'S GOOD.
SO I FOUND OUT YESTERDAY, AND I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ABLE TO MENTION THIS TO KURT, BUT NO, IT'S NOTHING, IT'S NOTHING BAD.
AND THEY HAVE A WEBSITE AND THEY POSTED A BUNCH OF VIDEOS TO IT.
THEY SAID THAT THEIR APPLICATIONS HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THEY STARTED DOING THAT.
WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING BEYOND TYPICAL SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S, IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'LL REALLY HELP US HOW THAT BE HOUSED ON OUR WEBSITE.
SOME SORT OF, YOU SEPARATE NEW PAGE OR NEW WHATEVER, DIFFERENT LANDING.
WOULD IT BE TOO, TOO MANY HOURS? NO, IT'S NOT THAT BIG, BIG DEAL.
WILL YOU, CHIEF, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, WILL YOU UPDATE ON THE, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING ON THE JUVENILE COURT STUFF? SURE.
UM, SINCE YOU'RE GONNA MOVE TO THE, SHE, SHE WAS ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DURING THE INTERIM WHILE JUDGE JUT LEFT AND WE HAVE AN INTERIM JUDGE, WE MOVED ALL OF OUR JUVENILE CITATIONS BACK TO JUVENILE COURT.
AND THE MAIN REASON WE DID THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT WE HAD WITH JUVENILE COURT WAS SPECIFIC TO JUDGE JUT IT GAVE JUDGE JUT THE JURISDICTION TO DO THAT.
SO WE MOVED IT BACK TO JUVENILE COURT.
UH, AND QUITE HONESTLY, WE'RE NOT SEEING THE NUMBER OF JUVENILE OFFENDERS THAT REALLY MAKE US THINK WE NEED TO PULL IT BACK TO BRENTWOOD.
WE'RE DOING MAYBE EIGHT OR 10 A MONTH.
AND THE JUVENILE COURT HAS SOME OPTIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE, LIKE COMMUNITY SERVICE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO OVERSEE A PROGRAM LIKE THAT.
JUDGE GUFFEY DOES A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB IN JUVENILE COURT.
SO WE'RE HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE JUVENILE OFFENDERS.
SO OUR, OUR INTENTION IS TO LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW.
MOVING ON THEN TO THE NEW JUDGE SAYING, UH, CHRISTIAN'S BEEN SENDING YOU ALL INFORMATION IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, SHE ALSO JUST UPDATED THE LINK.
SO ON YOUR UM, JANUARY 22ND AGENDA, THERE'LL BE A RESOLUTION APPOINTING A BLANK, UM, AS CITY JUDGE.
AND SO YOU ALL WILL DISCUSS AND MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT.
BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GOING INTO THIS IN THE PAST, THERE HASN'T BEEN A TERM ASSOCIATED WITH THE JUDGE'S POSITION AND WE THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO DO.
SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A LITTLE GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT, AND WE'LL WRITE IT INTO THE RESOLUTION TO BE APPOINTED FOR A TERM OF THREE YEARS.
I DON'T THINK WE'D GO ANY MORE THAN FIVE, BUT JUST
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A LITTLE DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT Y'ALL, SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT ON THAT NIGHT AND ON THE FLOOR, IF YOU CAN, WE DO AN ANNUAL REVIEW.I HAVE IF WE, LIKE, WHEN WE HAVE BOARD APPOINTMENTS FOR THREE YEARS OR WHATEVER, THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE APPLICATIONS AND REVIEW 'EM ALL.
IF WE SET A FINITE TERM LIMIT, WILL WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN? TO BE FAIR TO THOSE WHO WANT TO APPLY, IN MY OPINION, I THINK WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS IF YOU SET A TERM LIMIT SOME POINT BEFORE THAT END OF THAT TERM, YOU ALL WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION OF WHETHER TO RENEW THAT APPOINTMENT OR TO GO TAKE APPLICATIONS.
I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO, SO YOU'D HAVE A CHOICE OF RENEWING, BECAUSE I WOULD NOT WANT TO NECESSARILY DO THIS EVERY THREE YEARS OR FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER A GOOD OPTION MAY BE, UH, TO RUN IT FOR WHATEVER PERIOD OF, UH, OF TIME, WHETHER IT'S ONE YEAR, TWO YEAR, THREE YEAR, BUT THEN HAVE AN AUTO RENEWAL CLAUSE IN THERE.
UM, UNLESS WE OPT OUT OR THEY OPT OUT.
THAT WAY WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS, THIS PROCESS AND, AND LEMME SAY IF WE, IF WE PUT A TERM, WHATEVER IT IS, UH, I MEAN THEY STILL SERVE AT THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.
SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN IF THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT YOU'VE GOTTA, YOU'RE STUCK WITH THEM, STUCK WITH THEM FOR TWO MORE YEARS BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST YEAR OF A THIRD THREE YEAR TERM.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS THAT BACKSTOP, SO TO SPEAK.
IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEM, I I STILL LIKE TO DO SOME KIND OF MINIMAL ANNUAL REVIEW CHECK IN SOMETHING THE, LIKE YOU DO ANY EMPLOYMENT, THE CONCEPT OF THE AUTO RENEWAL, IS THAT WHAT THE WORD YOU USED? I'M SORRY? DOES, I GUESS IN EFFECT BUILD IN, UH, AN IDEA FOR A REVIEW, MEANING THE JUDGE WOULD KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR IT'S UP FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE IT HAS TO RENEW EVEN IF IT'S, UM, A, A HIGH LEVEL CONVERSATION OR JUST A THOUGHT PROCESS.
SO THAT DOES EFFECTIVELY BRING THAT UP FOR ANNUAL THING.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD NECESSARILY CONTEMPLATE, UM, DOING THAT REVIEW.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'D BE DONE BY, UH, I ASSUME YOU WOULD LOOK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE POLICE CHIEF JUST A YEAH.
STATUS REPORT AND IF THERE'S AN ISSUE REPORT, YEAH, IT'D BE A STATUS REPORT.
IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THEN HEY, UM, LET'S, UH, TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER IF NOT YEAH, YEAH.
YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING OTHER THAN I HAVE THE REPORT BECAUSE I THINK JUDGES HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INDEPENDENCE.
AND THEY CAN'T FEEL THAT WE ARE BREATHING DOWN THEIR NECK EVERY DAY WATCHING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT WE DO WANT TO BE ALERTED IF THERE'S A CONCERN THAT, HEY, SOMETHING'S FUNNY HERE.
YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE AND I WILL SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN, ESPECIALLY BEING AS A CITY ATTORNEY.
IT'S NOT REALLY MY PLACE TO GIVE PAST JUDGMENT ON A JUDGE.
UM, IN FACT, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO ARGUE IN FRONT OF IT.
IT PROBABLY, PORTERS GETS KIND OF GRAND IN MY ETHICS.
BUT, UM, SO I THINK IF THERE WERE TO BE SOME KIND OF ANNUAL REVIEW OR LOOK AT SOME KIND OF CRITERIA WOULD NEED TO BE SET FOR, OTHERWISE IT'S JUST DOES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, LIKE THE CITY JUDGE.
SO WE WOULD, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD IS WANTING TO LOOK INTO OR BUILD INTO SOME, SOME KIND OF INDEPENDENT OR SOMETHING OBJECTIVE OR, OR AGAIN, IF YOU WANNA HAVE IT EVERY, THE WAY THAT WE, THAT I THINK WE HAD KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT PREVIOUSLY AND, AND THIS IS BY NO MEANS ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE IS PUTTING A, A NUMERICAL YEAR IN IT AND SAYING AGAIN, IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS OR ANY KIND OF, UM, FOR CAUSE REASONS THAT THE BOARD COULD REMOVE THE JUDGE.
SO THEN RATHER THAN LIKE AN ANNUAL REVIEW, A AGAIN, IF YOU WANNA DO SOME KIND OF ANNUAL REVIEW, I THINK SOME KIND OF CRITERIA NEEDS TO BE SET FORTH.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU START SAYING FOR CAUSE THOUGH THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TO PROVE SOMETHING.
I I LIKE IT WHERE IT'S OKAY FOUR YEARS WITH AN OPTION TO AUTOMATICALLY RENEW MM-HMM.
BECAUSE FOR, CAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG BURDEN SOMETIMES WELL FOR CAUSE WOULD BE WE JUST HAVE THE RIGHT EARLIER THAN FOUR YEARS RENEW IF WE WANT TO.
THE FOR CAUSE WOULD BE EARLIER THAN THE FOUR YEAR TERM.
YOU KNOW, USING FOR, AS AS JUST AN EXAMPLE.
SO WE'D HAVE TO DEFINE CAUSE IN THE AGREEMENT, I MEAN, AGAIN, IF YOU ULTIMATELY THE CITY JUDGE SERVES THAT THE WILL MEASURE OF THE BOARD, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FOR, CAUSE IT CAN BE, UM, WOULDN'T CAUSE BE A KINDA LIMITED IN MISFEASANCE MALFEASANCE OR NON FEASANCE.
AND THEN OTHERWISE IF YOU EXPAND IT TO SAY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY COMMISSION, THEY COULD SIMPLY TERMINATE THE CONTRACT.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT A CONTRACT, IT'S AN APPOINTMENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT EXACTLY HOW WE SAY THAT.
BUT I I MEAN YOU'RE NOT, YOU WOULDN'T DO IT JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE PERSON IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
YOU WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF REASON.
WELL IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE COULD, YOU COULD, I MEAN YOU COULD, I MEAN IF YOU GET
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THE FEELING THAT HEY, THEY'RE TEMPERAMENT, YOU KNOW, WELL I, I WOULD ARGUE THAT'S CAUSE IT'S VERY UNPLEASANT WITH THE PUBLIC OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE TO ME.AND I'VE RECENTLY, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT THAT'S NOT BEEN THE CASE, BUT RIGHT.
IT IS STICKY TO DEFINE JUST LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE OUTCOME NOT FOR COST PROVISION.
BUT, BUT OTHERWISE I GUESS WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING A TERM? RIGHT.
SO WELL THEN JUST HEARING THE CONVERSATION, I MEAN, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MCMILLAN THAT HAVING A PERIODIC REVIEW MAKES SOME SENSE.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE A BIG DRAMATIC THING.
BUT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO MAKE IT A TERMED APPOINTMENT, YOU KNOW, VERSUS A REVIEW WHERE IT WORKS AT, AT OUR LEVEL.
YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T A SUPREME COURT JUDGE AND IT'S NOT AN APPOINTMENT FOR LIFE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT IT GET TO BE A, A POPULARITY CONTEST.
YOU KNOW, OR HAVE TERMS OF SOME SORT OF PROBLEM.
SO IF Y WANNA THINK THROUGH IT, IF IT, IF IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMISSION IS WANTING JUST A PERIODIC REVIEW.
I THINK THE QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THAT REVIEW LOOK LIKE IF IT RIGHT.
IF IT SHOULDN'T BE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, WELL HR CAN BE A MONTH.
I MEAN, BUT THEY'RE NOT AN EMPLOYEE.
THAT'S THEIR, IT'S AN APPOINTMENT, IT'S AN APPOINT POSITION.
SO KIND OF WHAT IS THE MECHANISM OPTION? WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR THAT TO GET A, SOME SORT OF STATUS REPORT.
WHAT KIND OF MECHANISM COULD WE PUT IN PLACE FOR THAT SO THAT THE COMMISSION COULD BE AWARE? AND THAT AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION.
WHAT WHAT CRITERIA ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE IT'S A, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT TEMPERAMENT, HOW DO YOU GAUGE THAT? IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, LET ME THROW THIS OUT.
WE'VE HAD TWO JUDGES SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
AND I, IIII MAYBE THAT'S TAKING A CHANCE, BUT I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'VE GOT THINGS SO SPECIFIC IN RULES THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, YOU'RE VERY LIMITED IN YOUR OPTIONS.
I I JUST, I REALLY LIKE SAYING WE'LL HIRE YOU FOR X NUMBER OF YEARS AND IT CAN BE RENEWED OR WE'RE OPENING IT UP AND THAT LEAVES IT ALL ON TO US WITHOUT ANY BURDEN OF PROOF OR DRAGGING ANYBODY THROUGH THE MUD OR ANYTHING.
'CAUSE BECAUSE THE IDEA OF A REVIEW IMPLIES SOME DOCUMENTATION OF SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR CHALLENGE IS, IS IF IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO IS PRESENTING CASES OR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S PRESENTING CASES TO, TO DOCUMENT A REVIEW THAT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IT WAS LIKE AN EMPLOYEE THING.
WELL, WE'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH TRAFFIC CONVICTIONS.
YOU'VE GOTTA EXIST IN ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY.
THERE'S NO OVERSIGHT AT ALL THOUGH.
IT'S YOU GOT IT'S US, THE PERSON.
SO IF YOU WANNA HAVE AN ANNUAL MEETING WITH THEM TO REVIEW THEIR PERFORMANCE, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT LOOKS EITHER.
SO
WELL I THINK IT GOES BACK TO COMMISSIONER DUN.
I THINK IF, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, I THINK IT, IT WOULD MANIFEST ITSELF IN, IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT DO A FIVE YEAR TERM? UH, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
I THINK MORE SHORTER PERIODS CAN SOMETIMES MAKE PEOPLE ACT A CERTAIN WAY TO HOLD THE JOB.
WHEREAS IN FIVE YEARS THEY, THEY KNOW I'VE GOT FIVE YEARS TO, TO DO THIS AND RUN MY REPORT THE WAY I WANT TO.
AND YOU CAN START WITH THREE AND THEN IF ALL'S GOING WELL WHEN YOU RENEW THE THREE YOU CAN RENEW THEN FOR THREE LONGER I FEEL BETTER.
IT'S, AND THEN SOMETHING THAT MORE OR LESS, THERE'S A TRIGGER LIKE SIX MONTHS BEFORE THAT DEADLINE FOR YOU ALL TO KIND OF MORE OR LESS MM-HMM
BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT PERSON, WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS, WOULD LIKE A HEADS UP, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANNA, IF YOU'RE GONNA OPEN IT BACK UP OR YOU'RE INTEND TO RENEW AND THEN WE'LL GET GOING FROM THERE.
SO WE CAN WORK SOMETHING INTO THE SURE.
UH, FLOOD ORDINANCE REVISION, UH, YOU CALL ANOTHER JUST COMMENT ON, ON THE, THE JUDGE THING.
I WANTED TO THANK KRISTEN FOR THE, THE COMMENT WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THE JUDGE DOES AND MENTIONING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE PARKING VIOLATIONS TAKES A LOT OF THE ATTENTION THAT THE JUDGE CAN BE INVOLVED IN SIGNING ISSUE OR SIGN ISSUES, ZONING ISSUES, UH, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ISSUES, NOISE COMPLAINTS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL.
'CAUSE READING THE, UM, READING THE APPLICATIONS AND THE, AND THE BIOS GETTING AN IDEA HOW THEY MIGHT HANDLE A VARIETY OF THE ISSUES THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE BEFORE 'EM.
'CAUSE I FRANKLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THEY SAY.
SO, UH, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
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THE FLOOD ORDINANCE REVISION.WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, OH BACK IN NOVEMBER MAYBE THE CONTENT OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOBODY AT TEMA TO OR FEMA TO REVIEW IT YET.
SO WE CAN'T EVEN SUBMIT IT TO JANUARY.
AND THEN IT MIGHT TAKE A FEW MONTHS, UH, TO GET IT BACK BEFORE THEN YOU ALL COULD ADOPT IT.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT THESE TWO HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE KIND OF SITTING IN, IN LIMBO.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE TWO HOMEOWNERS BUILD ENCLOSURES, UM, THAT DON'T, UM, COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT CODE AND, AND DON'T COMPLY WITH THE PROPOSED CODE EITHER, BUT DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY TEAR IT OUT.
BUT THEY CAN'T GET A PERMANENT OR FINAL CO WITH THE ENCLOSURES TODAY.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY CAN'T CLOSE OUT THEIR INSURANCE CLAIM UNTIL THEY HAVE A FINAL CO.
SO THE QUESTION WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WAS, IS THERE SOME, 'CAUSE THIS COULD TAKE TILL MAY OR SO BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD DO TO FIGURE OUT, UH, A WAY TO DEAL WITH THESE TWO HOMEOWNERS AND, AND HELP THEM KIND OF FINISH THE PROCESS, SO TO SPEAK? SO WE SAT AROUND AND TALKED ABOUT IT.
AND SO WHAT WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS, UM, FOR YOU ALL TO ADOPT, WE CAN'T ADOPT IT A FINAL ADOPTION OF THESE REVISIONS UNTIL WE HAVE THE SIGN OFF OF TEAM OF FEMA.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA SUGGEST YOU DO IS ADOPT IT ON FIRST READING AT YOUR NEXT MEETING AND THEN THERE WILL BE A, A DELAYED SCHEDULE FOR A SECOND READING WHICH WILL SAY SOMETHING LIKE, UM, PENDING FEMA APPROVAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THEN WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE THAT BASED UPON THAT PENDING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THOSE TWO HOMEOWNERS TO PRESENT PLANS TO, TO REDO THEIR ENCLOSURES BASED UPON WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THAT ORDINANCE.
FINISH THAT WORKUP, GET A FINAL CO FINISH UP, WHATEVER OTHER THINGS MAY STILL BE OUTSTANDING.
I THINK THERE'S SOME PLAT REVISIONS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF AND GET A FINAL CO BASED UPON THE PROPOSED NEW ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WE ASSUME THEY COULD PROBABLY DO BEFORE WE WILL EVER GET IT FINALLY ADOPTED.
UM, THE, THE RISK TO THAT IS, IS THAT IF TEMA FEMA COMES BACK AND SAYS NO TO OUR ORDINANCE, THEN WE'VE GOT THIS KIND OF NON-CONFORMING THING OUT THERE.
WE DON'T THINK THAT'S A HUGE RISK ONLY BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WE THINK MEETS ARE EVEN EXCEEDS MIFI AS MINIMUM STANDARD.
SO WE THINK THEY'LL BE OKAY WITH IT.
BUT THAT IS THE ONE LITTLE RISK OF THIS, UH, PENDING ORDINANCE TYPE PLAN.
SO THAT'S KIND OF, AND YOU CAN MAKE THEM AWARE OF IT AND YEAH.
KNOW THAT IF THEY HAVE TO CHANGE IT YEAH.
I MEAN THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I MEAN WE WOULD PROPOSE IT AS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE THINK IT'S A SMALL RISK, RIGHT.
WE JUST WANT AND ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S NOT A ZERO RISK.
UM, AND UM, SO THAT WOULD BE OUR PROPOSAL IS TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON YOUR AGENDA FOR FIRST READING AS WE DISCUSSED IT BACK WHEN, UM, WITH A DELAYED SECOND READING, NOTIFY THEM, WORK WITH THEM.
SO THEN IF ON THE FIRST READING, JUST TO CLARIFY JANUARY 22ND, THEN THEY CAN GO FIX THEIR STAIRS.
WELL THEY NEED TO GET PLANS AND GET A BUILDING PERMIT AND ALL THAT STUFF THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UM, FIX THE PLAN, FIX THE STAIRS, ALL THAT STUFF AND GET THE PERMANENT CO SO THEY CAN GET THEIR MONEY BACK FROM INSURANCE AND SO FORTH.
EVEN IF WE HAVEN'T DONE THE SECOND READING.
WE WOULD IF WE WOULD FINAL CO IT BASED UPON THE PENDING ORDINANCE.
NOW IF, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG IT TAKES THEM AND FEMA TURNS IT AROUND REAL QUICK, MAYBE WE'RE ALREADY AT THE FINAL ADOPTION.
BUT ALSO ANY OTHER OUTSTANDING ISSUES REVISED PLATS TO ADJUST THE FRONT STEP BACK.
UM, MAYBE, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE ENGINEER LOOK AT THE NO RISE AGAIN.
UH, REDO IT, BUT JUST MAKE SURE IT'S STILL OKAY.
BUT WE'LL MAKE THEM AWARE OF ALL THAT.
WHY WOULD THEY NEED A REVISED ELEVATION IF IT'S THE SAME HEIGHT? 'CAUSE BECAUSE THE LOWEST FLOOR ELEVATION IS BASED ON WHAT THEY BUILT.
SO IF THEY, IF THEY BUILD IT PER OUR ORDINANCE, WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, THEN THAT ELEVATION IS GONNA SWITCH FROM THE BOTTOM UP.
BUT THEY NEED THAT FOR THEIR INSURANCE TOO, SO, OKAY, OKAY.
SO IT'S NOT, IT MAY BE A FEW OTHER THINGS RIGHT.
THAN JUST THE, THE COMPLIANT ENCLOSURE.
BUT THEY CAN START CHECKING BOXES.
SO I MEAN WE THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE COMPROMISE GIVEN OH YEAH, YEAH.
SO SINCE Y'ALL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALLOWING THE ENCLOSURES AND WE LOOKED AT, UH, COMMISSIONER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE OUTSIDE WALL AND WHETHER WE NEED TO, AND WE, WE THINK WE'RE OKAY WITH THE CODE BECAUSE IF THE OUTSIDE WALL IS THERE, THE INTERIOR ONE ISN'T GONNA BE THERE.
SO IT'S STILL OPEN UNDERNEATH.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE.
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SO WE, WE DIDN'T SEE ANY CHANGE THERE.AND YOU'LL GO OVER THAT WITH THEM ON THAT, ESPECIALLY THE ONE HOME WHERE THE STAIRS ARE AGAINST THE OUTSIDE WALL.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'LL, WE'LL BE OKAY WITH THAT.
I, I'LL GO OVER IT WITH THEIR ARCHITECT OR WHOEVER'S DRAWING THE PLAN.
UM, MEMORIAL DAY EVENT REQUEST.
I FORWARDED YOU AN EMAIL THAT CAME IN FROM THE TIMEFRAME AND SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW TIME, HE'S BIG IN VETERAN STUFF AND YOU KNOW, SENATE TO THE MAYOR AND, AND COMMISSIONER SPEARS ABOUT THE CITY HOSTING AN EVENT.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T DO A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO IT AND, AND WHAT HE, THE FORMAT HE WAS PROPOSING, IT WAS WASN'T ANYTHING TOO ONEROUS OR WHATEVER, BUT BEFORE WE RAN WITH IT OR UH, WHATEVER, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GAUGE WHETHER THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU WANT, UM, STAFF TO PURSUE.
I'VE TALKED TO COMMISSIONER SPEARS, SHE SAID SHE'D BE WILLING TO, IF THE COMMISSION DESIRES TO KIND OF BE THE STAFF LIAISON TO WORK WITH STAFF ON COMING UP WITH SOME IDEAS TO, TO BRING BACK TO YOU.
BUT JUST REALLY WANTED TO DISCUSS WHETHER YOU WANT US TO PURSUE, UM, DOING SOME TYPE OF A MEMORIAL DAY EVENT IN THE CITY.
UM, WELL WE'VE GOT AT LEAST 35 RESIDENTS AT THE HERITAGE ALONE THAT ARE VETERANS.
SO I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT ENOUGH IN TOWN THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE ALL THE ONES THAT LIVE INDEPENDENTLY ON THEIR OWN TO DO SOMETHING.
UM, I LIKE THIS IDEA, I THINK.
AND I THINK WE WOULD, AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT HERE PROPOSING A SPECIFIC PLAN.
I THINK WE JUST WANT YOUR, IF YOU'RE OKAY, THEN WE WILL, STAFF WILL WORK WITH COMMISSIONER SPEARS AND COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS AND TAKE TOM'S THING.
BUT I THINK YOU WOULD START SMALL SCALE AND RIGHT.
AND THEN IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WHAT DAY WOULD BE DOING WELL I, I WE'RE NOT INTO THAT DETAIL YET.
I MEAN IT'D BE WHETHER YOU DID IT MEMORIAL DAY OR THE WEEK BEFORE, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE OFTEN MEMORIAL DAY ISN'T THE DAY.
IT'S REALLY CELEBRATED AROUND HERE, YOU KNOW.
I JUST HAS TO TALK TO TOM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY JUST BECAUSE IN THE EMAIL THAT HE SENT, YOU KNOW, IT HAD A A, IT STATED THURSDAY, BUT THEN THE DAY WAS ON A FRIDAY.
I MEAN I'M, THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THERE.
SO I JUST GAVE HIM A CALL TO SAY, HEY TOM, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON? IT ALSO SOUNDED A LOT MORE LIKE A VETERAN'S DAY THING, THE MEMORIAL DAY THING AND, AND, AND IT COULD BE EITHER, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW.
AND THAT WAS SOME OF THE STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT.
SOME WAS HE WAS SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, IT IS ACTUALLY MORE OF A VETERAN'S DAY FORMAT AND TRYING TO HONOR VETERANS IS, BUT MEMORIAL DAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DO THIS SORT OF STUFF.
BUT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE TRAVEL ON MEMORIAL DAY, HE HAD BEEN THINKING THE THURSDAY BEFORE.
BUT ALSO JUST KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE JUST TONS OF EXTRA STAFF AND WE TEND TO USE COMMUNITY RELATIONS AS KIND OF A CATCHALL.
AND IT'S ALSO AS WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THE SUMMER CONCERT SERIES AND SOME OTHER STUFF GOING ON, YOU KNOW, AS A TOM WERE WE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S CITY DRIVEN WHERE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO FIND, YOU KNOW, DO IT ALL OURSELVES AND THEN FIND PEOPLE OR IS THIS DRIVEN BY YOUR, YOUR VETERANS ORGANIZATION WHERE YOU'RE JUST ASKING US TO HELP CONVENE IT AND SUPPORT IT A LITTLE BIT? TO WHICH HE SAID, WELL I THINK I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING WHERE ALL WE'D REALLY ASK THE CITY TO DO IS SUPPLY A SPACE AND THEN THE TECH SUPPORT TO UM, TO DO THE PRESENTATION AND THEY WOULD DO THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE MARKETING AND CONVENING IT.
UM, TO WHICH IF, IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS REALLY MORE US AS THE COMMISSIONERS HELPING TO SUPPORT IT AND IT DIDN'T PUT A LOT OF LOAD ON STAFF THAT TIME OF YEAR.
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE THIN STAFFED AND, AND A BUSY TIME OF YEAR FOR COMMUNITY RELATIONS.
I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN.
BUT IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE SOMETHING WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO CALL IN FAVORS TO GET VETERANS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO COME TO IT, YOU KNOW, AND PUTTING A BIG LOAD ON STAFF, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DO AN EVENT AND FIND AN AUDIENCE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT AS APPEALING TO BE.
AND I, I THINK THAT WOULD PUT A, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE IF, IF THE TOM'S ORGANIZATION AND OR THE GROUP, THE SUSANNA MENTIONED IT, THE HERITAGE IS ALL FIRED UP AND AND THEY WANT TO PULL THIS WHOLE THING TOGETHER AND JUST WE AS COMMISSIONERS COME TO IT AND YOU KNOW, TECH SUPPORT LET SOME UPLOAD A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO FOR SORT OF THE, THE HONORING THEM PART AND AND WE'RE NOT CREATING THE PRESENTATION AND WE'RE NOT DOING ALL THAT.
THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE BE A PRETTY GOOD FORMAT.
BUT I'D WANNA BE REALLY SPECIFIC 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, 'CAUSE THIS COULD GET TO BE A, A LOT OF WORK IF WE'D COMPLETELY TAKE IT ON OURSELVES.
WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
I MEAN MY GOAL IS NOT TO BE JUST A CITY EVENT, THAT IT IS A PARTNERSHIP EVENT THAT WE PROVIDE MAYBE A LITTLE MORE THAN JUST THE SPACE AND JUST SOME PR AND HELP WORK THE LOGISTICS OF IT.
BUT THAT THE CONTENT WOULD COME FROM ANOTHER GROUP OR WHATEVER THE CASE.
WHAT GROUP? WELL AGAIN, TIME IS AHEAD.
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THE ASSOCIATION.IT'S A VETERANS, IT'S NOT JUST A BUSINESS UNDER OUR VETERANS.
WELL SEE YOU SAID THEY GOT THE INFORMATION ON IT.
SO YOU'RE, I'M LOOKING AT I FORWARD IT WELL I FORWARDED IT TO YOU TUESDAY.
I SENT IT TO YOU TUESDAY LAST WEEK.
WHEN, WHEN I SENT YOU THE LIST OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT, I'LL FORWARD IT TO YOU.
IT'S EXCITING TO ME THAT THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD WOULD BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT DOING SOMETHING FOR MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERANS DAY DAY IF, EVEN IF IT STARTS OFF SMALL AND GETS TO BE BUILT UPON OR CHANGES OVER THE YEARS.
BUT, UM, CERTAINLY ENGAGING OUR PUBLIC WHO'S VERY INTERESTED IN THIS ACTIVITY SOUNDS LIKE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.
UM, SO I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID NIELSEN.
UM, AND THEN AS WE LOOK ABOUT A MEMORIAL DAY SITUATION, I THINK WE CAN HONOR THAT VERY EFFECTIVELY.
AND ALSO THIS YEAR, AS I WAS LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR, VETERANS DAY FALLS ON A MONDAY THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE A MEETING THAT DAY.
SO I'D ALSO LIKE TO INCORPORATE VETERANS, SOME SORT OF VETERANS DAY ACKNOWLEDGEMENT DURING THAT, UM, MONDAY MEETING ON NOVEMBER 11TH.
IF YOU ALL WOULD, WOULDN'T MIND, I'D BE HAPPY TO BE THE PERSON TO STEWARD THAT AS WELL.
YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE'RE ASKING HERE TODAY IS IF, IF, IF YOU'RE ALL, IF THERE'S ENOUGH INTEREST IN US PURSUING SOME FURTHER CONVERSATIONS AND THEN COMING BACK TO YOU WITH SOME FLESHING OUT A FEW MORE OF THOSE DETAILS AND, AND UH, CHARLES AND WE REACH OUT TO TOM AND IF THERE'S ANOTHER VETERANS GROUP AROUND, WE CAN DO THAT AND COMMISSIONER SPEARS AND, AND KIND OF BRING IT BACK TO Y'ALL WITH SOME OTHER DETAILS.
WHETHER IT'S HOW THERE COULDN'T BE ENOUGH SUPPORT FOR IT.
BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR VETERANS, WE COULDN'T SIT HERE.
WELL I'M JUST SAYING THE SUPPORT FOR THE CITIES 'CAUSE IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AS COMMISSIONER INTER SAID.
AND THAT'S WHY WE DON'T DO BIG PARADES AND THINGS LIKE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
WELL WE DID FOURTH, RIGHT? THAT'S IT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCE STAFF, RESOURCES STAFF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF STAFF COME AND WORK.
SO I DO WANNA MAKE AGREE WITH NELSON.
I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO, BUT MAKE SURE WITH SOME BOUNDARIES ON IT AND I CAN'T GROW WITHOUT THE RESOURCES COMING FROM SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO.
I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER SPEARS VOLUNTEERING AND SOUNDS LIKE IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AND I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND JUST START WITH BABY STEPS THANK YOU.
WELL, IF THE GROUP IS GOING TO DO THE WORK, I MEAN PLAN IT.
I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S, I MEAN, THE WHOLE, JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE TAKING ON ANOTHER BIG PROJECT RIGHT NOW THAT WE LAUNCH OURSELVES.
BUT TO BE SUPPORTIVE, THAT'S, THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO DO.
IT IS EASY FOR ME TO SAY, 'CAUSE I'M HAVE TO BE THE COPS WORKING IN, OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR THE PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, HE MENTIONED SOMETHING AT A CITY.
I MEAN, WE'D BE THINKING IT'D JUST BE LIKE AT, AT, AT THE LIBRARY OR SOMETHING.
IT WOULDN'T BE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A PARADE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT WOULD BE A COMMEMORATION EVENT.
MAYBE A SPEAKER OR SOMETHING AT THE LIBRARY.
AND, BUT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, HE'D HAVE POLICE AND FIRE THERE AS, OH, THAT'S LIKE THE HEART SCUFFLE COMMUNITY DOING THE PARADE JUNE 15TH.
THEY'RE HAVING A PARADE, UH, THAT THEY'RE SPONSORING.
UH, AND, AND THE HISTORIC BOARD WILL BE SUPPORTIVE, BUT WE'RE NOT SPONSORING.
SO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE, ARE NOW, THIS MAY BE NEEDS TO BE ON THE, AS IN A SUPPORTIVE ROLE FOR YEAH.
NOW I'M GONNA BE CLEAR, I THINK, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A CITY EVENT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH RIGHT.
NOT THE IMPETUS OR THE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PULLING THE PROGRAM TOGETHER.
AGAIN, WE WE'RE JUST KIND OF AT THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES OF THIS.
SO OKAY, WE'LL CONVENE A, A MEETING OF THOSE FOLKS AND KIND OF REPORT BACK.
OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S MEMORIAL DAY, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ONLY JANUARY, THAT COMES UP ON US PRETTY QUICKLY HERE, SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
IS THAT, YOU THINK THAT'S YEAH.
UH, NONPROFIT DONATION POLICY I SENT ELECTRONICALLY, BUT I'VE GOT HARD COPIES HERE.
SO THIS WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A POLICY FOR THE SCHOOLS FOREVER AND THEN, UH, BUT WE NEVER REALLY HAVE HAD A WRITTEN POLICY RELATED TO THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE WE NEED TO DO THAT.
UH, AND I'LL JUST KIND OF OVERVIEW IT.
UM, THE REALITY IS THERE'S STATE LAWS, A STATE LAW THAT KIND OF DEFINES WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO IN TERMS OF, UM, GIVING TAX DOLLAR MONIES TO A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.
SO IT BREAKS IT UP INTO TWO DIFFERENT, UH, CATEGORIES.
ONE IS A NON-PROFIT CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS DEFINED AS SAYING THAT NO PART, UM, OF THE EARNINGS OF THE ORGANIZATION BENEFIT A SHAREHOLDER OR ANY INDIVIDUAL.
AND THAT THAT ORGANIZATION PROVIDES YEAR ROUND SERVICES BENEFITING THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
AND SO, JUST LOOKING AT WHO WE GIVE MONEY TO TODAY, UM,
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THAT WOULD, UH, OUR RECREATION SERVICE PROVIDERS, BLAZE AND THE BALL CLUB WOULD FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY AS WOULD THE Y 50 FORWARD AND UM, MID CUMBERLAND HUMAN RESOURCE AGENCY.AND THEN THE OTHER CATEGORY UNDER STATE LAW IS A NONPROFIT CIVIC ORGANIZATION TAX EXEMPT UNDER C FOUR C SIX.
AND BASICALLY IT'S UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TYPE, UH, PURPOSES PROMOTING CIVIC BETTERMENT THROUGH THE EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN, INCREASE EMPLOYMENT, PROMOTING BUSINESS ATTRACTION, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
UH, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO STATE, UH, ALLOWABLE ORGAN OR CLASSIFICATIONS THAT YOU CAN GIVE MONEY TO.
AND OURS, THE ONES THAT WE DO, WE THINK FALL UNDER THOSE.
UM, SO WITHIN THE POLICY, KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WE DRAFTED HERE? WE TOOK WHAT WE FELT WAS, UM, IN THE EDUCATION ONE THAT MIGHT, THAT MIGHT IN SOME WAY CARRY OVER A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT A LOT OF IT DID.
BUT SO WHAT WE'VE SAID HERE IS THAT TO QUALIFY FOR FUNDING CONSIDERATION, THE ORGANIZATION OBVIOUSLY HAS TO BE ONE OF THOSE TWO QUALIFYING UNDER STATE LAW, BUT THEN WOULD BE EITHER BASED IN BRENTWOOD PROVIDING SERVICES IN BRENTWOOD AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR TWO RECREATION SERVICES.
AND THAT THEY ARE BASED IN BRENTWOOD.
THIS CORRELATES WITH YOUR A, B, AND C ON THE DOCUMENT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, YES.
UH, OR THEY'VE GOTTA BE, UH, THEY CAN BE BASED ELSEWHERE BUT HAVE A PHYSICAL SERVICE LOCATION IN BRENTWOOD AND PROVIDE SERVICES IN BRENTWOOD.
TECHNICALLY THE YMCA OF MIDDLE TENNESSEE IS HEADQUARTERED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT I HAVE A BUILDING HERE, 54 WITH THE SAME MID CUMBERLAND.
WE MIGHT NEED TO ACTUALLY TWEAK THIS LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT FOR THEM 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL PRESENCE HERE, BUT THEY PROVIDE SERVICES IN BRENTWOOD.
SO WE MIGHT NEED TO TWEAK THIS A LITTLE BIT FOR THEM.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, WILLIAMSON INC.
SO BASED ELSEWHERE COULD INCORPORATE WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THREE IS A LITTLE REDUNDANT TO TWO.
UM, YEAH, I GUESS IF YOU THINK THROUGH IT, YEAH, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO SEPARATE IT OUT.
WELL, TWO SAYS I HAVE A PHYSICAL SERVICE LOCATION.
WELL, YOU JUST SAID MID CUMBERLAND, YOU'D HAVE TO SWITCH IT FROM C*M.
HAVE TO CHANGE, I THINK TWEAK I'D TO CHANGE TWEAK IF YOU CHANGE THE LANGUAGE THERE, THAT MIGHT YEAH.
COVER THREE AS FAR AS QUALIFYING SERVICES.
WELL, BECAUSE ALL OF IT IS DONE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSION.
I MEAN, WRITING IT A LITTLE BIT BROADLY TO GIVE THE GUIDELINE, BUT THE DRAWING IS SO TIGHT THAT IT'S A PROBLEM.
IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, IT WAS WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT OBVIOUSLY COVERS THE FOLKS WE HAVE HISTORICALLY PROVIDED FOR AND IT IS STILL AVAILABLE TO OTHER GROUPS THAT FIT THAT, BUT NOT MAKE IT SO BROAD THAT YOU GET THREE ORGANIZATIONS FROM NASHVILLE THAT RIGHT.
MAYBE DO A LITTLE BIT IN BRENTWOOD AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WANT TO COME TO YOU AND UM, AND, AND DO THAT.
I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY ASK SOMETHING.
THERE'S NO RIGHT TO ANY FUNDING WHATSOEVER.
UM, I'M JUST MAKING A NOTE HERE ON THAT.
I DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR CHANGES THOUGH, WHY WE'VE BEEN DOING THINGS.
NO, THIS DOESN'T REALLY, IT'S A LITTLE MORE FORMAL AND, UH, YEAH, THAT'S ALL.
IT'S, IT'S IN WRITING AND THE APPLICATION.
IT WOULD BE A WRITTEN APPLICATION BEFORE NOW WE SAY YEAH, SEND US A REQUEST LETTER AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT DO YOU HAVE SLIDES FOR THE OTHER? YEAH, I DO.
OKAY, SO YOU'LL ABSORB NUMBER THREE INTO NUMBER TWO.
THAT'S WHAT I'M MAKING MY NOTE ON, WHICH IS BC AND TO BE ON THE, YEAH.
YEAH, I WANNA LOOK AT THE WORDING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T OPEN THE DOOR FOR SOMETHING WE DON'T INTEND TO, BUT THAT WOULD BASED UPON WHAT WE TALKED TO HERE.
AND THEN, UM, WE ADDED A SPECIAL THING ABOUT YOUTH SPORTS, UM, BECAUSE, UM, FOR A YOUTH SPORTS ORGANIZATION TO GET MONEY FOR US, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME HIGHER STANDARDS BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER OF YOUTH SPORTS GROUPS THAT WOULD QUALIFY.
AND THERE ARE JUST THAT NUMBER ONE THERE BASED IN BRENTWOOD.
AND, UM, BUT WE'VE NEVER FUNDED TRAVEL SPORTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO WE'VE ADDED THESE SPECIFIC THINGS RELATIVE TO YOUTH SPORTS.
ONE THAT THEY'VE GOTTA BE BASED IN BRENTWOOD AND PROVIDING SERVICES, HAVE TO PROVIDE THEIR SERVICES ACROSS A RIDE, UH, EXCUSE ME, WIDE RANGE OF AGE GROUPS.
SO YOU CAN'T HAVE SOME SPORT LEAGUE THAT OFFERS
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A 10 AND UNDER LEAGUE ONLY AND SAY, OKAY, WE WANT TO COME GET MONEY.IT'S GOTTA BE A BROAD BASED, YOU KNOW, SERVICE LEVEL ACROSS ALL AGE, NOT ALL AGE GROUPS, BUT, YOU KNOW, CAN'T JUST BE TARGETED TO 1 1 1 TEAM OR WHATEVER.
IT WOULD BE LIKE A SEVEN, EIGHT TEAM.
YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SEVEN AND, AND, AND WANT TO COME GET, YOU KNOW, MONEY.
NOW YOU CAN STILL GO TO DAVE AND GET PARKS FIELDS ACCORDING TO THE POLICIES.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO OFFER AGE RANGE OF ZERO BIRTH 18
YOU JUST NEED TO BE A WIDE ENOUGH RANGE THAT IT'S, YEAH.
AND THAT'S A DISCRETIONARY THING FOR YOU.
I, I MEAN, TO ME, I GOT WHAT YOU DON'T WANT IS A IS SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT A, A, A, A TEAM THAT SAYS, OKAY, WELL MY BRENTWOOD, WHATEVER 9-YEAR-OLD BASEBALL TEAM, TRAVEL BASEBALL TEAM IS, CAN WE GET SOME MONEY FOR A TOURNAMENT OR WHATEVER THE CASE WOULD BE.
UM, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS OPEN TO ALL YOUTH WITHOUT RESPECT TO SKILL LEVEL, NO TRYOUTS, ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WELL, SOME OF THESE MAY GET SO LARGE, I GET THE CONCEPT OF THE TRYOUT THING 'CAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO AVOID TRAVEL TYPE THING.
BUT SOME OF THESE GET SO LONG, THEY MAY LARGE THAT THEY MAY HAVE SOME TYPE OF CUTOFF, SOMETHING, SOME KIND OF SKILL LEVEL, BUT THE CUTOFF IS BASED UPON JUST CAPACITY.
BUT IF IT'S LIKE, HEY, YOU'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE IN OUR PROGRAM, IS THAT REALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO BE GIVEN? THAT'S AGAIN, YOU'RE, THIS IS YOUR POLICY AND THERE ARE SKILL ASSESSMENTS THAT OCCUR.
UH, BUT THOSE ARE PRIMARILY FOR RANKING AND DRAFT.
SO THERE'S THE KIDS, EVERYBODY GETS TO PLAY.
UNLESS IT'S, YEAH, UNLESS THERE'S A LI YEAH.
BUT THEN IT'S A NUMBER THING, NOT A SKILL BASE, BUT
SO THAT'S WHAT WE WRITTEN IN HERE IS THAT IT'S, IT CAN'T BE A, A SELECTIVE TYPE ORGANIZATION, UM, THAT'S BASED UPON SKILL AND ALL THAT.
UM, AND THEN THEY'VE GOTTA MEET OUR MINIMUM RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS TO BE A SERVICE PROVIDER PER PARKS DEPARTMENT, SCHOOL-BASED CLUB SPORTS WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE.
COULD WE DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT? UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN MORE OF THE REASON BEHIND THAT? SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND? 'CAUSE THEY'RE GEOGRAPHIC SPECIFIC AND NOT OPEN TO, SO YOU, UM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY GENERALLY FROM THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN ON THE RAVENWOOD LACROSSE TEAM.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S IT'S FOCUSED ON A CONFINED, UM, SET OF PARTICIPANTS, SO TO SPEAK, AND NOT A COMMUNITY-WIDE RECREATION PROGRAM.
SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT IS FOCUSED, BUT IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE.
SO AS A CLUB SPORT PARENT MYSELF, UM, AND INVOLVED IN THAT, AND THEN IT TOOK ME UNTIL I WAS WORKING AT FRONT WIND MIDDLE SCHOOL TO FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW THE CLUB SPORTS SITUATION WORKS.
UM, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT IT CAN BE VAGUE, BUT FOR INSTANCE, UM, SWIMMING IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY WILL ALWAYS BE A CLUB SPORT BECAUSE COUNTY WILL NEVER PROVIDE A POOL FOR SWIMMING.
AND SO, UM, THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S THE PROCESS.
BUT THE CLUB SPORTS AT BRENTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL, THE SWIMMING AQUA BRUINS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BE ON THE BRENTWOOD HIGH SWIM TEAM.
IF YOU DON'T ATTEND BRENTWOOD HIGH, IT'S OPEN TO ANYONE WHO HOMESCHOOLS OR GOES TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL.
OR IF YOU ATTEND RAVENWOOD, WOULD YOU PREFER TO SWIM ON THE BRENTWOOD HIGH TEAM? YOU CAN DO THAT.
SO THERE ARE SOME CLUB SPORT, OR MOST CLUB SPORTS ARE THAT WAY WHERE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY, IT'S NOT RESTRICTED ONLY TO THE STUDENTS THAT ATTEND THAT SCHOOL.
SO, IN EFFECT, KNOWING THAT A CLUB SPORT THAT QUALIFIES IN THAT FASHION COULD BE OPEN FOR US TO RECEIVE FUNDS FROM US, IF THEY APPLY, THAT'S, YOU'RE OPENING A HUGE DOOR.
I'M NOT SAYING, BUT I'M NOT SAYING I I'M, I'M NOT SAYING I'M PROMOTING THAT.
I'M SAYING BY, BY THE DEFINITION OF HOW THEY OPERATE, THEY ARE ELIGIBLE UNDER WHAT WE'VE WRITTEN.
NOT A CASE SAYS SCHOOL BASED CLUB SPORTS SHALL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING CONSIDERATION.
AND THEY DON'T OFFER A BROAD RANGE, AGE RANGE OF, YOU KNOW, OF UH, THAT, THAT LETTER G THE WAY IT'S PHRASED COVERS IT, IT JUST SAYS THEY'RE OUT.
YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S TO ME IS ENOUGH RIGHT THERE.
AND COMMISSIONER SPEARS IS RIGHT.
THE CLUB SPORTS AREN'T TOTALLY CLOSED TO THE SCHOOLS.
IT'S PREDOMINANTLY THOSE AND ALL THE ONES THAT I, IT'S FOR SURE PREDOMINANTLY THAT, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY IT STILL IS KIND OF A CLOSED, UH, GROUP.
BUT IF YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU WILL OPEN THE DOOR TO, UH, SWIMMING, LIKE FOOTBALL, RUGBY.
OH, THEY'RE ALL STILL ASSESSED TOO.
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA PLAY ON THE LACROSSE TEAM, YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE THE LACROSSE TEAM.
SO THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA PLAY ON THE HOCKEY TEAM, YOU GOTTA MAKE THE HOCKEY TEAM.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T MAKE 'EM.
SO THAT'S, IT'S A SKILL ASSESSMENT TOO.
AND YEAH, ALL THE CLUB SPORTS THAT WE WERE
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INVOLVED WITH, IT'S SWIMMING.YOU JUST HAVE TO BE WILLING TO DO IT.
I THINK THAT BOTTOM LINE TAKES CARE OF SWIMMING.
SO IF, IF WE, IF CLUB SPORTS DO COME AND ASK ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THIS PROCESS, THEN WE CAN POINT THEM BACK TO THIS DOCUMENT AND WE CAN MAKE, IT'LL BE MADE CLEAR, WHICH IS ANOTHER GREAT REASON WHY WE'RE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DOCUMENT.
'CAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER WE HAD THE LACROSSE GROUP.
AND, AND IN THERE IT WAS MORE, IT WAS SOMEWHAT THAT ISSUE AND BUT THERE IT WAS ALSO MOSTLY RAVENWOOD.
IT WAS THAT IT WASN'T A CITYWIDE AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE ONES, WHICH IS GOES TO POINT D THERE.
AND THAT SAYS WE WOULD SEEK TO SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE CONSOLIDATED CITYWIDE PROGRAMS AS OPPOSED TO MULTIPLE GROUPS THAT PROVIDE THE SAME SUPPORT.
SO I THINK BETWEEN D AND G, IT KIND OF, I THINK THIS IS GOOD TO, FOR YEARS I'VE HAD CLUB SUPPORT GROUPS ASK ME ABOUT, HEY, COULD Y'ALL GIVE US A THOUSAND DOLLARS? COULD YOU GIVE IT TO, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS A SCHOOL ACTIVITY AND WHATEVER.
AND I'M LIKE, THAT'S NOT HOW OUR PROGRAM'S SET UP.
IT'S MORE, AND, BUT THERE WASN'T A DEFINITION TO, IT WASN'T A DEFINITION.
SO THAT'S IS THERE ON THE, IN THE DOCUMENT, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU AGAIN.
IS THERE A WAY TO PULL OUT THE CLUB SPORTS WHERE IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT THE SAME GUIDELINES IN, IN THE DOCUMENT HERE? I MEAN, I'M THINKING MAYBE LIKE A BULLET POINT OR ROMAN NUMERAL ONE OR THESE FOLKS UP HERE AND THEN A ROMAN NUMERAL TWO.
AND UNDER THAT HEADING MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S SCHOOL SPORT OR YOUTH ATHLETIC SPORTS AND THAT THEY'LL APPLY DIFFERENTLY.
SO IF I'M A PERSON WHO'S COMING TO APPLY AND I'M LOOKING, I'M THINKING, OH, I'M, I DON'T DO YOUTH SPORTS, I WON'T EVEN LOOK AT THAT SECTION.
I'M JUST GONNA FOCUS ON ROMAN NUMERAL ONE, JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIZED.
CAN WE DO THAT IN THE DOCUMENT? THE TWO SEPARATE, THE TWO REQUESTING KIND OF TYPES RULES AND YEAH.
EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO REPEAT SOME, SO LIKE THERE'S THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S YMCA OR WHATEVER, KIND OF A LITTLE SEPARATE THAN THE SPORTS RELATED THINGS.
JUST SO THE DOCUMENT IS A LITTLE MORE CLEAR FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE USING IT.
SO YOU DON'T THINK THE SAME SCHOOL BASED CLUB SPORTS SHALL NOT BE ELIGIBLE IF THE FUNDING CONSIDERATION ISN'T CLEAR? I'M SORRY, WHERE ARE YOU POINTING TO? UH, F NO, SHE'S SAYING JUST DON'T MIX IT WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH LIKE WHERE YMCA WOULD READ, WHEREAS THE SCHOOL, THE SPORT PEOPLE WOULD READ.
SOME OF IT MAY BE REPETITIVE, BUT HAVE A SECTION FOR THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND A SECTION FOR SPORTS RELATED.
SO IT'S VERY CLEAR BECAUSE IF I'M A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, I DON'T, I DON'T, THE SPORTS RULES DON'T APPLY TO ME.
AND IF I'M A SPORTS PERSON, THE COMMUNITY RULES DON'T APPLY TO ME.
SO THEN WE ARE JUST MAKING IT EASIER FOR THE USER AS OFFLINE.
SO THE HEADING LIKE THE SLIDES, LIKE, LOOKS LIKE THE SLIDES.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT ONE SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED US WAS THAT, UM, LIKE THAT, SO YOU'VE GOT HEART AFFAIR, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JAY? NO, THE NEXT ONE, YOU SEPARATED IT OUT ON YOUTH THERE.
SO IT BETTER PULL OUT THAT SECTION THAT SAYS THIS ONLY APPLIES TO, THESE REQUIREMENTS ONLY APPLY TO YOU FOR SOMEHOW.
JUST THAT IT'S CLEAR FOR THE PERSON WHO'S NEVER, SO SOMEBODY FROM 50 FORWARD OR WHATEVER DOESN'T READ THAT AND SAY, WELL WAIT A MINUTE, WE DON'T.
WE'LL LOOK AT, YEAH, IT'S KIND OF DONE UP THERE.
UM, SO WHAT WE DID HERE, OBVIOUSLY WE NEVER WANT OUR FUNDING TO BE THE SOLE OR THE PRIMARY FUNDING SOURCE FOR ANY ORGANIZATION.
SO THE ASSUMPTION IS, IS THAT WE'RE PART OF THEIR FUNDING PIECE, BUT NOT THE PRIMARY PART OF IT.
UM, WE'VE KIND OF, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT IS OUR, OUR FUNDS ARE INTENDED AS SUPPLEMENTAL TO ENHANCE SERVICES IN LIEU OF THE CITY DOING IT.
UM, AND THEN THE PRIORITY FOR OUR FUNDING, THIS, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS KIND OF FLIPS FROM THE WAY THE SCHOOLS ARE, 'CAUSE THE SCHOOLS HAVE THEIR OWN FUNDING SOURCE OR TAX DOLLARS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT SHOULD FUND THEIR OPERATIONS AND DAY-TO-DAY STUFF.
AND OUR MONEY SHOULD ENHANCE CERTAIN PROGRAMS OR WHATEVER.
WELL THESE GROUPS, ALL THEY DO IS PROVIDE SERVICE DELIVERY.
THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN FUNDING SOURCE.
THEY PIECE IT TOGETHER FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR TYPE OF MONEY REGISTRATION FEES OR WHATEVER.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE ASSUMPTION IS IS THAT THE FUNDING, WHETHER IT'S OURS, THEIR, WHATEVER ELSE, THEY GET REGISTRATION FEES, IT'S, IT, IT ALL GOES TO DIRECT SERVICE DELIVERY, RUNNING THEIR PROGRAMS, BUYING SPORTS EQUIPMENT, THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES, PAYING FOR OFFICIALS, INSURANCE, WHATEVER.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE, THE FUNDING GOES.
AND THEN THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE, UM, FOR THEM TO MAKE A REQUEST FOR A SHORT TERM SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
SO LIKE THE, WHAT 54 DID THIS YEAR OR WHAT THE Y DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
AND THAT, AGAIN, ALL THAT'S DISCRETIONARY FOR YOU.
SO AT THE
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PROPERTY? ACTUALLY, YEAH.I MEAN I WOULD CONSIDER THAT REALLY THE REVERSE.
IT'S THEM GIVING US MONEY TO FACILITATE AN IMPROVEMENT OF OUR PROPERTY.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING THOUGH KIND OF ON ONGOING OPERATING EXPENSES AND SO FORTH.
I GET THAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S SPECIAL REQUESTS FOR AN ISSUE, BUT THE, THE POINT OF THIS WAS WE'RE GIFTING MONEY FOR THEM TO RUN PROGRAMMING AND SO FORTH.
SO, UM, IF SOME ORGANIZATION COMES TO US, I MEAN, LET'S SAY, I DON'T KNOW, SCOUTS, THEY MEET AT A CHURCH AND THE CHURCH AC GOES OUT.
WE DON'T HAVE A, I MEAN WE'RE KIND OF IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE PAYING FOR THEIR AC IF THEY CAME TO US.
IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA CONSIDER ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
IF WE'RE, IF WE, BECAUSE IF WE DO THAT, THEN THAT GOES, IT GIVES THE HEART OF IF WE REMOVE OUR GIFTING, THEY CAN'T FUNCTION ANYMORE.
THE WHOLE POINT WAS ANYTHING WE GIVE TO 'EM IS ADDITIONAL FOR THEIR PROGRAMMING.
AND IF IT WASN'T GIVEN ONE YEAR, LET'S SAY WE HAVE A REALLY LEAN YEAR, THE CITY OR SOMETHING, AND WE CHOOSE NOT TO GIVE THIS MONEY, THEN THEY'RE IN A BIND.
SO THOSE KIND OF CONFLICT TO ME FOR GIVING MONEY FOR MAINTENANCE THAT'S ONGOING.
IF WE DON'T GIVE THAT, IF THEY'RE USING THAT AND THEY CAN'T OPERATE WITHOUT IT.
SO WE'RE, WE KIND OF HAVE A CONFLICTING COMMENTS IN HERE.
IF THE HEART OF THE SOUL OF THE DOCUMENT IS TO GIVE MONEY SO THAT SHOULD WE REMOVE IT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO QUIT OPERATING, THEN WE SHOULDN'T BE GIVING MONEY FOR MAINTENANCE.
SEE, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY SEE IT THAT WAY IN THE SENSE THAT WHEN I READ THE LOOK, CAN WE SEE THE MAINTENANCE REQUESTS OR SOMETHING LIKE 54 TO AC, THAT WAS A ONE TIME GIFT FOR A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN PAYING LIKE FOR THEIR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FOR ALL THAT STUFF.
WHICH WOULD BE AN ONGOING YEARLY COMMITMENT.
YOU KNOW, SO I I I'D SAY DOING MONEY FOR PROGRAMMING, WHICH WOULD TYPICALLY DO, YOU KNOW, IS CERTAINLY ON IN HERE.
BUT HAVING THE LATITUDE FOR OCCASIONAL CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING IN CONFLICT WITH THE, THE ONGOING THING.
WELL, AND I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK THE USE OF FUNDS TYPICALLY SAID WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO US AND EXPECTING THAT OR ASKING FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
BUT THEN ON THE, WE COULD HAVE A CAVEAT UNDER APPLICATIONS AND FUNDING DECISIONS, IF YOU WANNA JUMP TO THAT.
ONE THING THAT I LOOKED AT THAT I FELT LIKE WE COULD SAY DECISIONS I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT EFFORTS WILL BE MADE TO PROVIDE AN EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF THE AVAILABLE FUNDING.
'CAUSE THAT, THAT MAKES ME NERVOUS IF WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT EQUALLY, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T GIVE US AS MUCH DISCRETION.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS ENROLLED.
BUT WE COULD SAY DECISIONS WILL BE BASED ON THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF THE ORGANIZATION AND BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS SERVED.
SO THAT LIKE IF IT HAS A UNIQUE NEED, A ONE-TIME REQUEST OR SOMETHING, WE CAN CONSIDER THAT.
BUT I WANT AN ONGOING PEOPLE COMING CONSTANTLY FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
BUT WE STILL HAVE A CAVEAT IF WE WRITE IT THAT WAY.
BUT I DON'T LIKE THE TERM OF EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION.
I DON'T LIKE SAYING DECISIONS WILL BE MADE FOR ANY REASON.
AND IT MIGHT CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
YOU GOT IT ON IN WRITING, YOU HAVE TO DEFEND IT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING ON THE UNIQUE NEEDS OUT CAN TAKE EACH, LEAVE THAT OUT ENTIRELY.
WELL THEN WE'RE STUCK IF WE SAY EQUITABLE, WE'RE STUCK ON WELL, I'M SAYING LET'S TAKE THAT OUT.
YEAH, LET'S DON'T PUT ANYTHING IN ABOUT THE UNIQUENESS OF THE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S SO SUBJECTIVE.
SO I SAY WE'RE ASKING TO BE, LET'S LEAVE THAT PART OUT COMPLETELY.
BUT IF IT IS SUBJECTIVE, IT'S UP TO US TO DECIDE WHO GETS IT AND WHY.
THAT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY.
BUT WE DON'T NEED TO PUT IT DOWN IN WRITING.
THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU LEAVE TO NEED TO OUTLINE THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE DOING SO THAT WE, THE SITUATION, IT ALL MAKES SENSE FOR THOSE WHO ARE APPLYING.
SO THAT THEY, WE ARE NOT GETTING PEOPLE APPLYING WHERE WE WOULD NEVER, UM, GRANT THAT REWARD TO OR THAT GIFT TO THEM.
SO WE DON'T WANNA WASTE THEIR TIME EITHER.
SO WE NEED TO SET UP ENOUGH PARAMETERS SO THAT THEY KNOW WHETHER IT'S WORTH THEIR TIME TO INVEST INTO THE PROCESS AT ALL.
SO I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO DEFINE SOME THINGS LIKE THIS AND IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
IF WE HAVE A CONFLICTING SITUATION WITH THE SPIRIT, THEN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE STATE WE DON'T SUPPORT MAINTENANCE, BUT YET WE LEAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A UNIQUE SITUATION LATER IN THE DOCUMENT.
SO WHEN YOU SAY, I GUESS I'M, LET ME BE CLEAR WITH UNDERSTANDING WHEN YOU SAY MAINTENANCE, SO IF LET'S TAKE 50 FORWARD SO THEY COULD NOT USE THE MONEY TO PAY, UH, SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND UNSTOP
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A DRAIN.IS THAT MAINTENANCE OR, OR REPLACE FON IN A AIR CONDITIONER SYSTEM.
I WOULD HOPE THAT 54 WOULD HAVE THAT IN THEIR FINANCIAL PLAN AND WHAT THEY DO IN GENERAL.
AND THAT ANY MONEY THEY WOULD RECEIVE FROM THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD WOULD JUST BE TO GO INTO BETTER THEIR PROGRAMMING OFFER TO OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BUDGETED IN STOPPING UP A DRAIN, UN STOPPING A DRAIN AND AC MAINTENANCE AND ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS.
BECAUSE THOSE ARE VERY PREDICTABLE IN BUSINESS AND OPERATIONS ON HOW TO BUDGET THAT FOR THE FUTURE.
BUT I, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE, THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OF A FACILITY FOR THOSE GROUPS THAT HAVE A FACILITY IS, IS AN OPERATING EXPENSE.
AND SO THEY KNOW THEY EN ENDEAVORED INTO WHEN THEY BEGAN THEIR PRO PROCESS.
MY POINT HERE IS THOUGH, THAT IF WE GAVE THEM 50,000 AND THE WHOLE BUDGET FOR THAT CENTER IS 700,000 THAT THEY'RE RAISING IN OTHER WAYS THAT IT'S EASY, THEY'LL SHOW $50,000 GO INTO PROGRAM.
I MEAN, BUT IT'S ALL GONNA BE MIXED INTO OPERATING TYPES EXPENSES.
SO, WELL WE GIVE THE MONEY IN GOOD FAITH THAT THEY'LL BE DOING WHAT THEY SAY THEY DO.
THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE PROGRAMMING.
AND THE IDEA IS TO PROVIDE PROGRAMMING FOR OUR RESIDENTS THAT WE DON'T PROVIDE AS A CITY.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MI OVER MICROMANAGE EVERYTHING.
WE EITHER TRUST THESE GROUPS THAT WE'RE GIVING BIG AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO OR WE DON'T.
AND IF WE DON'T TRUST THEM TO START WITH, WE DON'T NEED TO BE GIVING THEM ANY MONEY.
I MEAN, WHO'S GONNA MONITOR ALL OF THIS, WHICH IS, THERE'LL BE NO WAY FOR US TO TRACK OUR EXACTLY.
THAT'S PART OF AN OVERALL BUDGET THAT DON'T NEED TO BE COMPLICATED.
BUT IF IT'S STATED UNDER MANAGING, BUT IF IT'S STATED THEN THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR ENROLLMENT FEES FOR 54 OR WHATEVER GOES TO THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES, WHETHER IT'S MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER.
AND THEN THEN THE EXPECTATION, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MICROMANAGING AND, AND ALL BUT THE EXPECTATION, IF IT'S STATED THEY KNOW ON GOOD FAITH THEIR ENROLLMENT FEES OR WHATEVER ARE PAYING FOR THEIR MAINTENANCE AND OVERHEAD.
AND THEN THE GIFT THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM IS FOR SUPPLEMENTAL THINGS PROGRAMMING FOR THE BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS.
AND, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT TRUST.
LAST YEAR WE HAD A GROUP THAT CAME TO US AND SPENT LOTS OF HOURS AND TIME AND APPLIED AND WE REJECTED THEIR APPLICATION BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MEET OUR UNWRITTEN RULES.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO WRITE THE RULES DOWN SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AND THEN THEY CAN USE THEIR TIME AND OR NOT TO APPLY.
BUT THAT, THAT'S AN ISSUE OF WHO QUALIFIES TO BE CONSIDERED OR NOT.
THIS IS ONCE YOU, THAT'S PART OF THIS PROCESS.
BUT I'M SAYING ONCE THEY QUALIFY, ONCE YOU'VE MADE A FUNDING DECISION, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TRYING TO TRACK THE DOLLAR.
NO, I'M NOT TRYING, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TRACKING.
I'M TALKING ABOUT WE GIVE THEM MONEY IN GOOD FAITH AND THEY DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
BUT OUR REQUIREMENTS AT THE BEGINNING ARE THAT IT WOULD BE FOR PROGRAMMING FOR RESIDENTS AND THEN THEY WOULD, AND IN GOOD FAITH WE GIVE THEM THE MONEY AND THEY DO THAT.
AND SOME PROGRAMS HAVE SERVICE DELIVERY WITHOUT A FACILITY AND SOME HAVE PROGRAMS WITH A FACILITY AND WITH A FACILITY TO PROVIDE PROGRAMS COMES SOME, AGAIN, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT REPLACING HVAC UNITS.
I'M JUST SAYING IF, IF YOU SAY YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR MAINTENANCE, THEN YOU NEED TO DEFINE, DOES THAT MEAN AGAIN, UN STOPPING A DRAIN OR DOES THAT MEAN CAPITAL MAINTENANCE? ONE WOULD ASSUME THAT AN OUTSTANDING ORGANIZATION THAT WE WOULD GIVE MONEY TO WOULD ALREADY HAVE THOSE PROCESSES IN PLACE IN THEIR BUSINESS PLAN.
AND SO WE WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.
AND THAT'S NOT AT ALL WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
WE'RE DEALING WITH PROGRAMMING AND IT'S A GIFT TO THEM FOR PROGRAMMING.
SO I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S A SO WHAT'S DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE THE EXPECTATION OF US TO TRACK OUR MONEY TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T GO TOWARDS MAINTENANCE IS ALL, IS WHAT I'M ASKING.
WHY WOULD YOU SAY SO THAT THEY JUST UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE AN EXPECTATION.
IF YOU DON'T STATE IT, THEN THEY DON'T KNOW.
BUT IF YOU STATE IT, THEN THEY KNOW AND THEN IT'S UP TO THEM TO HONOR THE GIFT THAT IT GO TO PROGRAMMING.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MICROMANAGING AND TRACKING.
SO MAYBE WE INCLUDE THAT IN OUR COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AT THE TIME WE APPROVE THE, UH, SUPPORT.
'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS COMES DOWN TO THE SUPPORT IS GIVEN AND THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION AND YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF COVERS THIS STUFF.
IF WE WAIT, THEN WE'VE ALREADY HAD TO DEBATE IT AND GO THROUGH IT AND DO LIKE WE DID WITH THE MARTIN CENTER.
IF IT'S ALREADY THERE, IT'S STATED AND THEY DON'T APPLY FOR IT BASED ON STRICTLY ON THAT.
TO ME IT'S COMMON COURTESY THAT WE WOULD DELINEATE IT IN OUR DOCUMENTS SO THAT THEN THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THEY APPLY.
WELL, DOESN'T THIS SAY WHAT OUR USE OF FUNDS IS? IT'S PRETTY CLEAR TO ME.
WELL AGAIN, IT'S DIRECT SERVICE DELIVERY INCLUDES PROGRAM RESOURCES, EQUIPMENT MATERIALS, DIRECT OPERATING COSTS SUCH AS OFFICIATING, COST PARTICIPANT INSURANCE, EDUCATIONAL, VOCATIONAL SERVICES, ET CETERA.
THEN THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN THEY CAN ASK FOR KIND OF ONE TIME STUFF.
EACH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS DOES HAVE, WHILE THEY DON'T HAVE A FUNDING BODY LIKE THE SCHOOLS DO, OBVIOUSLY THEY DO HAVE OR SHOULD HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDING BODY.
WHETHER IT'S THEIR OWN FUNDRAISING EFFORTS, THEIR ENROLLMENT FEES.
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FEES.IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL THOSE THINGS.
OUR GIFT SHOULD NOT BE A PART OF THEIR TRUE FUNDING FOR MAINTENANCE AND ONGOING OVERHEAD.
JUST LIKE IT ISN'T FOR THE SCHOOLS.
IT SHOULD BE FOR, FOR, FOR PROGRAMMING AND THINGS THAT WE AS A CITY DON'T PROVIDE.
THE CHALLENGE IS WITHIN AN ORGANIZATION, MONEY IS FUNGIBLE.
YOU CAN SAY IT GOES TO THIS, YOU CAN SAY IT GOES TO THAT.
YOU JUST KIND OF MOVE IT AROUND A BIT.
BUT THE IDEA IS THE SPIRIT BEHIND IT ALL.
AND IF WE CAN DELINEATE THAT OUT FRONT AND THEN THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR OR NOT, AND THEN WE TRUST THE SPIRIT OF WHERE THE DONATION GOES AND THAT WE TRUST THAT IT'LL BE HANDLED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE ENOUGH RESIDENTS IN BRENTWOOD WHO IF IT'S NOT HANDLED APPROPRIATELY, WOULD REPORT BACK TO US AND THEN WE WOULD KNOW FOR FUTURE SITUATIONS.
SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WOULD SAY HERE.
CAN'T BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE.
I GUESS I'M ASKING THEN IF I'M IN ANY OF THESE GROUPS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, CAN WE JUST GO AROUND THE TABLE LIKE WE OFTEN DO AND SEE WHAT IF THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE READY TO MOVE ON FROM THIS? I MEAN WE DISCUSSED IT AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE SOMETHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THAT FUNDER SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS.
BUT I MEAN ON THAT ONE STATEMENT, LET'S PUT SOMETHING TO THAT.
HERE WE ARE, WE ARE GROUPING THIS DEAD HORSE DOWN.
TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT IN THERE WHAT SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR OVERALL MAINTENANCE OF WHAT? OF A FACILITY.
SO THEY CAN'T USE IT TO MAINTAIN OUR FACILITIES LIKE THEY DO.
THEY STRIKE OUR FACILITIES FOR THEIR GAMES OR THEY YEAH, THAT'S MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR PRESS BOXES.
SHOULDN'T, WELL, MAINTENANCE IS A DIFFERENT IDEA THAN PROCESS.
THE PROCESS OF STRIPING A FIELD IS PART OF THE PROCESS THAT THEY DO SERVICE.
BUT THE BALL CLUBS ALSO MAINTENANCE ON OUR NOT MAINTENANCE PRESS BOXES THAT THEY USE.
THEY MAINTAIN THOSE PRESS BOXES.
DOESN'T THIS REALLY COME DOWN TO THIS MARTIN CENTER AND THE AIR CONDITIONING THING? WE, WE'VE HAD NO OTHER ISSUES BOILS DOWN TO.
WE'VE HAD, BUT IT, IT'S ALSO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION COULD COME, LIKE I SAID, LIKE A SCOUTING ORGANIZATION.
WE DON'T PROVIDE SCOUTS AS A CITY.
THEY MEET AT CHURCHES AND SO FORTH.
THEY ARE OPEN TO ALL GEOGRAPHIC AREAS.
WE'VE SEEN THE SCOUTS COME IN FROM EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL AND THEY'RE AT A CERTAIN CHURCH OR WHATEVER COMING IN AND THEY CAN'T MEET AT THAT CHURCH OR SOMETHING.
WHAT YOU'RE FORGETTING BECAUSE THE AC IS NOT THERE, THAT WE GET TO MAKE A DECISION.
WE CAN SAY NO, CAN WE PUT THE MAINTENANCE? IT'S NOT WRITTEN THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE IT TO 'EM.
IF WE'RE WILLING TO STAND UP TO OUR GROUP AND HAVE THE SPINE TO SAY NO, THEN WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
COULD WE USE THE LANGUAGE THAT'S WRITTEN IN THE SCHOOL DOCUMENT AND BRING THAT OVER AND PUT IT IN THIS DOCUMENT? UH, I I'M NOT LEAVING BECAUSE OF ANYTHING EXCEPT THAT I'VE GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE AT 11.
BUT YOU COULD LEAVE THEN I'LL SEE Y'ALL TUESDAY NIGHT, RIGHT? TUESDAY.
I, I DON'T, I SO I I DON'T THINK THE SCHOOL LANGUAGE APPLIES BECAUSE THAT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FUNDING MODEL.
THE SCHOOLS ARE FUNDED BY THE, THE COUNTY AND SO WE WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CITY NOT TAKING OVER THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR FUNDING THE SCHOOLS.
AND THE MECHANISM THERE IS, THAT'S WHY THE CITY GIVES DIRECTLY, I BELIEVE TO THE PTOS SO THAT THE MONEY IS NOT PART OF THE COUNTY SCHOOL BUDGET ISN'T, THEY DON'T GIVE TO THE PTO.
THE MONEY'S NOT GIVEN TO THE PTO.
IT'S GIVEN TO THE SCHOOL DIRECTLY.
IS IT GIVEN TO THE SCHOOL? WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.
IT'S 'CAUSE THE SCHOOL'S DIRECTLY FOUR YEARS USED TO GO TO THE PTOS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL WOULD TAKE IT AT THE CENTRAL OFFICE.
AND, BUT NOW I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT WELL, FAIR ENOUGH.
SO, BUT THE SCHOOL'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN THE NON-PROFITS THAT AREN'T TAX FUNDED.
WELL THE KEYWORD, THE KEY WORD THAT YOU COULD USE IS REPAIRS.
IF THEY'RE STRIPING A FIELD FOR USE, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN REPAIRING.
I'M WAIT, BUT THEY, AGAIN, THEY REPAIR PRESS BOXES.
SO I MEAN I I PERSONALLY THINK WE'RE, THEY'RE NOT USING NECESSARILY OUR MONEY TO REPAIR THEIR PRESS BOXES.
THEY'RE USING THEIR FUNDRAISING MONEY TO REPAIR THE REPAIR I THINK AS ARE THESE OTHER ORGANIZ.
I MEAN, AGAIN, BUT YOU'RE GONNA SAY I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TOO DEEP IN MAINTENANCE.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER GOOD BULLET POINTS AND WE'RE HUNG UP ON MAINTENANCE.
AND THE MAINTENANCE COMES BACK TO THIS AIR CONDITIONER THING.
THAT WAS A ONE TIME DEAL THAT WE HAD A BUMP AND I JUST THINK WE'RE BEATING OUR HEADS.
WELL WE'VE ALSO HAD THE Y REQUEST FOR CAPITAL STUFF.
THERE WAS NO CONSTRUCTION WAS NO CONSTRUCTION.
BUT, AND IT STILL GOES BACK TO YOU ALL MAKE A DECISION WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO IT.
WELL STILL CIRCUMSTANCE OR COMMISSION DECIDES TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE YII LIKE, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID THE UNIQUE, THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF THE ORGANIZATION.
SO BECAUSE THEY MAY COME WITH A ONE-TIME REQUEST FOR, SO IF THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, WHICH WE CAN DECIDE RATHER SHOULD BE WRITTEN MORE BROADLY AND NOT MORE NARROWLY.
I, I LIKE THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE UP THIS.
I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS WITH THE MAINTENANCE, BUT I THINK THERE'S OTHER GOOD THINGS.
DON'T LOSE THE GOOD PARTS YOU'VE DONE FROM THIS.
BUT I THINK THE MAINTENANCE IS,
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IS TOO HARD TO, AND I THINK BY SAYING SOMETHING LIKE THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF THE ORGANIZATION DOES GIVE US COMPLETE DISCRETION ON WHAT WE CONSIDER AND, AND WHERE.UNDER APPLICATIONS AND FUNDING DECISION UNDER THE, ON THE SECOND PARAGRAPH AT THE END WHEN YOU SAID EFFORTS WILL BE MADE TO PROVIDE AN EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF THE AVAILABLE FUNDING.
I DON'T LIKE THE TERM EQUITABLE THAT BINDS US INTO SOMETHING.
BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BASED ON THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF THE ORGANIZATION AND BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS SERVED.
AND WHAT WE ALSO HAVE ADDED UNDER SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, THIS FORM WHERE THEY HAVE TO FILL IT OUT WHERE YOU HAVE THE BULLET POINTS.
WHAT PAGE IS THAT? THAT'S THE PAGE, THE LAST PAGE, PAGE FOUR.
IT'S THE, I DON'T KNOW, LAST PAGE WHAT HE GAVE US I LAST APPLICATION.
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS, IT SAYS DRAFT ACROSS IT.
SO IT HAS ALL THE BULLET POINTS.
I DO THINK, UM, WHERE WE'RE ASKING FOR THE BUDGET AND THE DESCRIPTION AND SO FORTH, THE AMOUNT REQUESTED, IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE NUMBER OF BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS SERVED.
I HAVE THAT WRITTEN DOWN TO HOW MANY THINGS SERVED ANNUALLY WITH AND WITH DOCUMENTATION YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY RESIDENTS OF BRENTWOOD ARE SERVED BY THIS ORGANIZATION.
AND WE WERE LIKE DOCUMENTATION OF THAT.
LIKE WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE, THE FIELDS OR THE RE RESIDENT, BRENTWOOD RESIDENT REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, THE YOUTH SPORTS.
I MEAN IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR FOR, FOR THE SCHOOL FOR SUNSET WHERE THEY HAVE TO MEET A CERTAIN THRESHOLD BEFORE WE GIVE 'EM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND THE SPORTS ALREADY HAVE TO SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LY RESIDENTS ON THE TEAM OR WHATEVER.
I I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD APPLY TO THE CIVIC ORGANIZATION CATEGORY THOUGH.
OR LIKE WHAT, LIKE THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE.
HOW DO THEY DEFINE NUMBER OF BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS SERVE? 'CAUSE THERE'S, THEY JUST PROVIDE, IT'S NOT THE SAME FROM THERE, BUT COMMUNITY SERVICE ALREADY, THEY COULD GIVE US AN ESTIMATE IF THEY DON'T HAVE A HARD DATA.
BUT I THINK THEY HAVE DATABASES OF ADDRESSES OF FOLKS THAT ARE MEMBERS OF BUSINESSES, NOT NECESSARILY WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE, THEIR MEMBERSHIP OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK YOU MAKE IT SPECIFIC TO COMMUNITY SERVICE.
YOU, YOU CAN'T, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF IT'S REDUNDANT, IT ALMOST IS LOOKING LIKE WE NEED ONE FOR SPORTS ONE, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE APPLICATION.
YOU KNOW, YOU JUST HAVE AN APPLICATION PROGRAM SPECIFIC TO THE SPORTS GROUPS, SPECIFIC TO THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND YOU HAVE THEIR OWN INSTRUCTIONS AND THEIR OWN SUBMITTAL FORM.
WELL, EVERYTHING WOULD BE THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THIS LAST DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BRENTWOOD RECORDS.
JUST ADD THAT ONE AND JUST CLARIFY, CLARIFY.
THAT ONLY APPLIES TO THE COMMUNITY, THE CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS COMMISSIONER, IF WE CAN COME BACK TO YOUR PARAGRAPH, UM, THAT SENTENCE YOU DIDN'T LIKE, MY MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO STRIKE THAT SENTENCE IN ENTIRETY, THE EQUITABLE ONE AND, AND REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING THAT SAYS FUNDING REQUESTS WILL BE CONSIDERED BASED UPON THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF THE ORGANIZATION.
OR YOU CAN JUST STRIKE COMPLETELY NOT REPLACE IT, JUST LEAVE THE FIRST SENTENCE.
FUNDING ALLOCATIONS TO ELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS IN THE SPRING AS PART OF THE DELIBERATION FOR THE UPCOMING ANNUAL BUDGET PERIOD.
THAT WAY IT'S FULL DISCRETION ON YOUR OWNS PART.
WE'LL TRY TO REFORMAT AND MAKE SOME OF THESE CHANGES AND THEN HAVE IT ON FOR YOUR JANUARY 22ND AGENDA.
CAN WE GET A, CAN WE GET A COPY OF IT BEFORE YEAH.
TOLD FOR TYPOS OR ANYTHING THAT WORDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
CAN WE JUST SEE ANOTHER DRAFT? COULD WE HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DRAFT THAT WOULD YOU WANT ANOTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE IT'S ON AN AGENDA OR JUST AS PART OF THE NO, I WOULD, WELL, I MEAN NO, LET'S PUT IN THE FUTURE BRIEFING AND WE'LL JUST COME BACK TO IT.
WE JUST NEED TO BE, I JUST WANNA GET IT RIGHT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WELL NO, I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO BE TELLING THESE FOLKS IF THERE'S SOMETHING NEW THEY NEED TO BE PROVIDING US.
THE APPLICATIONS ARE DUE MARCH 1ST, SO.
WELL I'M SURE IT WON'T BE DIFFICULT.
WELL I THINK YOU COULD SEND US A COPY OF THE REVISED DRAFT AND WE COULD GIVE YOU, NOT A REPLY ALL, WE'LL JUST REPLY TO YOU WITH OUR FEEDBACK.
IF I GET CONFLICTING FEEDBACK FROM YOU THOUGH THAT THEN WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS IT BRIEFING, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A BRIEFING.
I'M JUST GONNA, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY AND WE'LL HAVE A DRAFT FOR YOU TO DISCUSS AT YOUR NEXT BRIEFING.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ON THIS.
COUPLE OTHER THINGS REAL QUICK.
TRY TO GET ME IN HERE, THE BOAT AT THE VET CLINIC.
UM, WE'LL MAKE SOME CONTACT THERE.
THE ISSUE IS, IS THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR CODE THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T STORE A BOAT ON YOUR PROPERTY, BUT THEY PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THEN.
I MEAN PEOPLE HAVE BOATS IN THEIR YEAH.
DRIVEWAYS AND YARDS AND ALL THE TIME.
SO YOU CAN'T JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT CAME TO MY MIND WHEN I READ YOUR EMAIL WAS, UM, WHAT IF MY, I'M IN A, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS NO HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND WHAT IF MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR HAS A BOAT ON A TRAILER THAT HAS ROTTEN TIRES ON THE TRAILER.
LIKE IF THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT, THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE
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CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT, AND I DON'T HAVE THE WORDING THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO LOOK AT BECAUSE IF YOU JUST HAVING A BOAT NOW VEHICLES ARE DIFFERENT.IF THEY'RE INOPERABLE AND THEY'RE NOT, UM, REGISTERED OR WHATEVER, THAT'S CLEAR IN THE CODE.
LIKE IT WAS A MOTOR HOME OR A VEHICLE, A VEHICLE IS COVERED SEPARATELY.
BUT A BOAT DOESN'T FALL UNDER THE DEFINITION OF A VEHICLE.
SO THERE'S OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE CODE ABOUT COLLECTION OF DEBRIS.
DEBRIS AND TRY AND, AND IN THIS CASE, WE WENT OUT YESTERDAY, TOOK SOME PICTURES.
WE MAY BE GETTING TO THE POINT, THE CONDITION OF THIS BOAT MAY QUALIFY MORE TOWARDS THAT.
BUT YOU DON'T WANNA JUST SAY BOATS CAN'T BE ON 'CAUSE THAT OPENS UP SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT.
RIGHT? NO, RHOA DOES NOT ALLOW YOU, YOU CAN'T WITH SPECIAL PERMISSION FOR LIKE A WEEK OR TWO.
LIKE IF YOU GOT PONTOON BOAT OR A SKI BOAT OR WHATEVER, YOU CAN'T PARK IT IN YOUR DRIVEWAY INDEFINITELY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA PAY STORAGE FEES IN THE WINTER.
BUT, BUT OTHERWISE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE HOK RULES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED COVENANTS, YOU CAN'T, YOU REALLY CAN'T.
I MEAN YOU CAN'T LIMIT A GOLF CART IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, GO-KART IN THEIR DRIVEWAY, WHATEVER.
AND WE HAVE SOME THINGS LIKE A MOTOR HOME YOU CAN HAVE IT BUT YOU CAN'T BE LIVING IN IT IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.
UM, SO WE HAVE SOME PROVISIONS OF THE CODE, BUT NOTHING THAT DIRECTLY, UNLESS IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE THE CONDITION OF IT FALLS UNDER THIS OTHER GENERAL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING.
IT'S, I MEAN IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT HAVEN'T BEEN MOVED AND RIGHT.
SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME CONTACT THERE.
DO WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER IN THE PAST? SO, BUT WE WILL TRY TO PUSH DOES HE DON'T HAVE ROOM JUST MOVE AROUND BACK? I'M SURE HE DOES, BUT WE CAN
IT'S JUST THE VISIBILITY OF IT.
BUT I MEAN, AGAIN, IT, IT MAY BE GETTING TO A CONDITION THAT MAYBE WE HAVE SOME OTHER AVENUES.
THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT A BOAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THAT AREA.
UM, COMMISSIONER SPEARS HAD ASKED ME TO REPORT A LITTLE BIT ON THE OLD SMYRNA ROAD MEETING WE HAD IN DECEMBER.
UM, NOTHING REALLY SURPRISING OF THE, OF THE CONCERNS.
UM, NOISE PEOPLE IN ANNANDALE ARE CONCERNED THAT BY MOVING, IF WE MOVE THE ROAD TO THE NORTH SIDE, UH, THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE MORE NOISE AND MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.
THEY'VE GOT 150 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH WAS PLANNED BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION FOR THIS ROAD ALREADY.
SO I MEAN THEY, EVEN WITH THE NEW ROAD, THEY WOULD MEET TODAY'S STANDARDS PROPERTY OWNERS AT THE FAR EAST END OF WHERE WE WOULD START THE BOULEVARD SECTION, WHICH WAS REQUIRE SOME RIGHT OF, THEY RECENTLY PURCHASED THAT WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS, DID SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT.
SO WE WILL PUT DOWN ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE ENGINEERS AS THAT, UH, PROCESS GOES FORWARD.
IS THAT THE WILLIAMS FAMILY? I FORGET THEIR NAME.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE AT THE END OF WE'RE PROJECT ONE AND PROJECT TWO.
YEAH, ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE, THAT'S THE WILLIAMS. UM, BUT THOSE WERE THE CONCERNS, UH, AND CONCERNS THAT IF WE MAKE IT SAFER THEN IT'LL PROBABLY ATTRACT MORE TRAFFIC AND, AND I THINK YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY THE CASE.
BUT AS I TRIED TO SUMMARIZE AT THE END, I MEAN I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE OPTION OF NOT DOING ANYTHING.
SO, UM, WE'VE GOTTEN MULTIPLE OPTIONS.
AND DICKIE PRESENTED, WAS IT THREE OPTIONS REALLY? TWO, TWO.
ONE WAS TWO LANES TO THE NORTH.
THAT'S MOVES THE, FOR FOR A SECTION OF IT FOR THAT PHASE ONE SECTION.
THE HISTORIC ROCK WALL SECTION.
TWO LANES TO THE NORTH WHERE WE HAVE MOST OF THE RIGHT OF WAY OTHER THAN THE, UH, HISTORIC HOME.
AND THEN THE EXISTING ROAD BECOMES KIND OF A LINEAR PARK BIKEWAY TRAIL THING.
AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE PREFERRED ALTERNATE.
THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE TO PUT ONE LANE ON THE OLD ROAD.
ONE LANE ON THE NEW ROAD WILL COST MORE.
STILL GOTTA DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MAINTENANCE ON THE, ON THE OLD ROAD.
AND SO I, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PREFERENCE IS THE, THE, THE NEW ROAD TO THE NORTH FOR THAT PHASE ONE.
KEEP THE OLD ROAD, THAT'S A, LIKE A OFF YOUR REPORT AND, AND YOU'LL HAVE THE DRIVEWAY CUT ACROSS AS TOO OR WHATEVER.
WHAT'S THE COST? SO THE PHASE ONE, AND THEN BOTH OF 'EM WOULD HAVE THE ROUNDABOUT AT ANNANDALE AND AND OR JONES PARKWAY AND, AND
UH, THE PHASE ONE, UM, NUMBER 9.9 0.69 AND A HALF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS THE CURRENT NUMBER.
UH, AND THEN WE DIDN'T, I DON'T, I THINK HE HAD A NUMBER FOR PHASE TWO, BUT THAT WOULD BE MUCH FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, AND WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER FOR PHASE TWO? I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.
HE, HE DIDN'T SAY IN THE MEETING, BUT HE OBLITERATED THAT IT WOULD BE THE SAME, ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT AS PHASE ONE.
I I, I I JUST, I DON'T REMEMBER 'CAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN IN OUR CIP OR I MEAN IT'S NOT EVEN IN OUR 10 YEAR.
I MEAN THERE'S NOT EVEN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT IN OUR CURRENT FIVE YEAR CIP OH.
THE FIRST PHASE IS PARTIALLY NOT AT $9 MILLION.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE NEED TO BE MORE FUNDS.
THAT'S JUST THE CONNECTIVITY FOR WENDY HILL PARK THOUGH, RIGHT? NO, THAT'S THE WHOLE TO MOVING THE NEW ROAD TO THE NORTH.
THAT BECOMES ALL THAT ABOUT WHAT IS THAT WAS ALREADY IN CIP NO, PART OF IT IS WE DIDN'T BUDGET 10 MILLION.
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WE BUDGET, WE DIDN'T BUDGET.UH, SO WE'LL NEED TO ADD FIND ONE TO ADD MONEY TO GET TO A FULL PROJECT ASSUMING Y'ALL WANNA MOVE THAT FORWARD.
AND THAT STRETCHES A MILE AND A HALF.
IS THAT RIGHT? IS IT MILE AND A HALF.
UM, AND UM, THE, THE CONCERN IN THE ROOM FROM THE RESIDENTS I WAS THERE ATTENDED AND A COMMISSIONER
I THINK THE QUOTE WAS THIS IS A DONE DEAL.
AND SO YOU ALL EXPLAINED THAT IT WASN'T THAT THE COMMISSION HADN'T VOTED AND ALL THAT, BUT HAD WE AS A COMMISSION SAID THAT WE AGREED ON SOMETHING.
I KNOW WE WERE PRESENTED ON THE 21ST, BUT HAD WE SAID THAT WE I JUST WELL WE PRESENTED THE TWO OPTIONS AND, AND THE TWO OPTIONS AND, AND SAID THAT THE STAFFS RECOMMENDED OPTION WAS THAT PHASE OR THAT OKAY.
IT WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDED OPTION.
I AND YOU ALL SAID YES TO THAT.
IT WASN'T A BOTH SO TO SPEAK, BUT NOBODY, I LOOKED BACK AT THE VIDEO I COULDN'T FIND WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT IT LIKE THAT.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT ON THE 21ST, LIKE WHEN WE WOULD'VE SAID YES TO THAT OR? WELL, AGAIN, I DON'T, WE DIDN'T PULL YOU ALL THERE.
I MEAN THEY SAID HERE'S THE RECOMMENDED PLAN AND OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND SO THE ASSUMPTION WAS, YEAH, I, I GUESS I DIDN'T REALIZE AT THAT MEETING THAT ONE OPTION WAS BEING PRESENTED.
I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS KIND OF ON BOTH OPTIONS.
'CAUSE WE WERE SO KIND OF HIGH LEVEL DISCUSSION IN HERE WHERE IT WAS KIND OF WHERE IT WAS PRESENTED TO US AND THE DRAWINGS WERE SHOWN.
I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE HAD LOCKED IN FOR SURE ON, UM, WELL WE'RE GONNA GET A REPORT FROM SULLIVAN IF THERE'S STUDY.
IF AT THAT POINT IN TIME YOU DON'T WANT THAT ALTERNATIVE, THEN YOU'LL NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO US AND WE'LL NEED TO BUDGET ACCORDINGLY FOR THE OTHER, I JUST DON'T THINK NOT DOING ANYTHING IS AN OPTION OUT THERE.
FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, FROM THE BRIEFING, I SEEM TO REMEMBER WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THE, THE FACT THAT THE, THE OPTION THAT INCLUDED ADDING THE LINEAR PARK AND DOING THE ROAD OR THE TRAFFIC CALMING UH, ROUNDABOUTS WAS THE LESS EXPENSIVE OPTION.
RIGHT? ACTUALLY IT SEEMS LIKE THE PREMIUM OPTION WAS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE KIND OF BUDGET OPTION, WHICH WAS TO DUMP THE EXISTING ROAD, BRING IT UP TO CODE, YOU KNOW, LOSE THE PICTURESQUE NATURE OF IT AND THEN ADD ANOTHER LANE TO THE NORTH, WHICH SEEMED TO BE, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T ADD THE PARK LANE DIDN'T ADD THE, THE WALKING BIKING DIDN'T PRESERVE THE LOOK OF IT AND IT WAS ALSO MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO, AND I THINK IT MIGHT'VE BEEN MERRI GOMAN THAT MADE A COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED OBVIOUSLY OPTIONAL ONE, BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK IT LIKE IT WASN'T FULL.
BUT I DO REMEMBER PEOPLE THINKING THE NICER OPTION BEING THE LESS EXPENSIVE OPTION WAS KIND OF REMARKABLE.
UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ROADS, AND I KNOW THAT SAME DAY WE HAD THE JOHNSON'S CHAPEL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CURVE AND WE TALKED ABOUT ACCIDENT REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I HAD ASKED FOR THE ACCIDENT REPORT AND YOU ALL HAD SENT IT TO ME.
UM, IT, THERE'S OVER FIVE YEARS OF DATA AND IT, THERE DIDN'T ACTUALLY, I WAS SURPRISED.
I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE ACCIDENTS ON THAT STRETCH OF OLD SMYRNA, BUT THERE REALLY WEREN'T THAT MANY, WHICH WAS GREAT NEWS FOR ME.
UM, OH, THERE WAS A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER ACTUALLY.
CONSIDERING THE ACCIDENTS THAT I SEE HAPPEN ON THE OTHER ROADS THAT I TRAVEL WITH MORE FREQUENCY, I JUST WAS SURPRISED THAT THERE WERE THAT FEW.
CAN YOU SEND IT TO US? YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
UM, AND THEN THE RESIDENTS, WHAT THEY SAID DURING THE MEETING WAS THAT THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE SPEEDING MORE THAN THEY ALREADY ARE WHEN THE ROAD WOULD BE IMPROVED.
THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, HOWEVER WE CAN MITIGATE THAT AND THEN THE INCREASED TRAFFIC IT WOULD BRING AND THEN FOR THE INCREASED TRAFFIC THEN TO ME THAT SEEMS LIKE FOR THOSE FOLKS HAVING TO GET OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY, UM, I, I HEARD WE HEARD A REPORT THAT NIGHT AT THE MEETING THAT IT'S ALREADY DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF DRIVEWAYS.
THAT IF THE SPEED IS INCREASED AND THE VOLUME IS INCREASED, THAT THOSE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA HAVE AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TIME GETTING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS FOR LEFT TURN ESPECIALLY.
UM, SO JUST SOME THINGS TO KEEP CONSIDER CONSIDERING ABOUT WHAT THE RESIDENTS FEEL ABOUT THIS.
THAT THAT'S, THOSE ARE THEIR BIGGEST CONCERNS.
UM, AND FROM THE RESIDENT'S PERSPECTIVE, THEY, VERY FEW OF THEM MENTIONED SAFETY.
UM, I, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO SLOW ON UL, I DRIVE A BIG CAR AND YOU HAVE TO GO SLOW.
BUT THEY DIDN'T MENTION SAFETY FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR LIFESTYLE THAT THEY AS THEY LIVE ON THAT ROAD.
SO THEY, FOR THEMSELVES LIKE, LIKE THEY DIDN'T SAY I'VE FALLEN OFF, MY TRUCK HAS FALLEN OFF OR MY VEHICLE'S FALLEN OFF, OR THAT KIND OF THING.
LIKE OTHER PEOPLE, BUT NOT THEMSELVES.
AND MOST OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IS THROUGH TRAFFIC NOT RESIDENCE OF BROOKLYN.
SO THOSE ARE THE OBSERVATIONS THAT I HAD.
I THINK THE, THE PULSE OF THE ROOM TOO, THEY WERE SHOCKED WHEN THEY FELT LIKE THIS WAS A DONE DEAL AND THAT THEY WERE HEARING ABOUT IT THERE AND
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THAT IT WAS ALREADY DECIDED UPON.'CAUSE IT, IT HADN'T BEEN SO THERE WAS PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THAT WE'RE VERY MUCH NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS.
WELL THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE ROOM EVERY TIME WE DO A ROAD PROJECT WHO ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING IT.
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WAS A DONE DEAL.
UM, UNTIL YOU AWARD A CONTRACT, IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL.
BUT YOU ALL, IT AWARDED A CONTRACT TO DO A STUDY.
'CAUSE WE FELT LIKE THERE WAS A NEED TO DO IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE.
WE PUT MONEY IN A CAPITAL BUDGET TO DO THAT, THAT YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE HADN'T BEEN SOME ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO OLD SMYRNA ROAD.
AND THAT'S, THIS IS THE PROCESS OF DOING IT NOW UNTIL THERE'S A CONTRACT AWARDED.
BUT THE MEETING THAT WE HAD THAT NIGHT WAS NOT ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER MEETING WE'VE EVER HAD FOR EVERY, ANY OTHER ROAD PROJECT WE'VE EVER HAD.
THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALONG IT WHO DON'T WANT IT FOR WHATEVER REASONS.
WE TRY TO MITIGATE THOSE CONCERNS AS BEST WE CAN.
BUT IF IT'S WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE COMMUNITY FROM A SAFETY, FROM A VOLUME, FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, THAT'S THE BIGGER PICTURE THAT WE ALWAYS MOVE FORWARD ON.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY CAN LOOK AT OLD SMIRNA ROAD WITH WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE TODAY WITH WHAT'S COMING OUT THERE TODAY AND THINK THAT IT CAN BE LEFT AS IS AND IF THAT'S, BUT YOU ALL WILL HAVE THAT DECISION MADE.
WHAT'S THE MAX NUMBER ONCE IT'S BUILT OUT? SINCE MOST OF IT'S, IT'S THE AR NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT WILL BE IN THAT ONE AND ONE AND A HALF MILE STRETCH.
I I I COULDN'T QUITE TELL WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT SATELLITE VIEW BASED ON NUMBER OF ACRES UNDEVELOPED.
YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IS IT JUST THE UNDEVELOPED ONES OR ARE ANY OF THE OTHERS THAT MIGHT BE PACKAGED TOGETHER? BUT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S 50 IN THAT 1.5 HISTORIC SECTION.
I'M JUST, I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'VE BALLPARK, BUT MY MIND WAS 50 ONCE A SEA.
YELLOW IS 10, 1 10 HARLAND IS 2020.
UM, AND AGAIN, DO SOME OF THE OTHERS GET COMBINED? BILL, YOU KNOW, BILL, UM, OWEN JUST, YOU KNOW, HAS 45 ACRES BACK THERE, SO THAT'S ANOTHER 12, 13 OR SO.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN MAYBE IN AND THE WINDY HILL HISTORIC PROPERTY, NOT THE PARK.
IT'S LOCKED IN, ISN'T IT TOO RIGHT.
YEAH, THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T SUBDIVIDE IT.
YEAH, SO 50 OR SO 50 HOUSES PER MILE THE HOUSE FOR 10 MILLION.
AND BUT I WOULD SAY AGAIN, IF THERE WASN'T ANOTHER HOUSE BUILT OUT THERE, YOU'VE STILL GOT A SITUATION THAT I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO LEAVE IT AS IT IS.
WHEN WAS THE RIGHT OF WAY STARTED TO BE ACQUIRED THAT, THAT RIGHT OF WAY ON OLD SMYRNA? WOULD THAT HAPPEN LIKE IN THE EIGHTIES, NINETIES? WELL, THE FIRST PART OF IT, WHENEVER ANNADALE CAME IN, PROBABLY IN THE NINETIES.
AND THEN SINCE THEN, HARLAN DEDICATED.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MAINLY.
BUT SINCE THEN WE'VE ALSO CLOSED OFF TWO ROADS THAT WE'RE GONNA CONNECT IN THERE.
THE GREEN HILL PARK CLOSING OFF JONES PARKWAY WAS HUGE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ANNON DALE AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTED AND THE OTHER, THE GREEN WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE CLOSED YEAH.
WHICH WAS PLANNED, HADN'T BEEN UP THERE.
AND, AND OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, THE COMMISSION HAS HELD STRONG WITH THE ONE ACRE OR GREATER ZONING FOR THAT AREA.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND IN THE NINETIES, ONE COULD HAVE CONJECTURED THAT IF THAT ZONING HAD BEEN CHANGED BY THE CITY COMMISSION, THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN HIGH DENSITY EVEN IN THAT AREA, BUT THAT IT DIDN'T AND IT STAYED THAT GOES THROUGH THAT.
THERE NEVER WOULD'VE BEEN AN ASSUMPTION THAT IT WAS GONNA BE A HIGH DENSITY.
BUT IN TERMS OF RIGHT AWAY AND FEEDER STREETS AND ALL THAT, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING HIGH DENSITY BUT MORE DENSITY THAN IT IS NOW.
SO, SO, SO THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WHICH IS, I MEAN, GREAT I THINK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF RENT LOAN, SINCE THIS IS A LOT HIGHER THAN WE HAD BUDGETED IN THE CIP 'CAUSE YOU SAID 6 MILLION AND WE'RE UP TO ALMOST 10 ON IT.
AND I MENTIONED THIS TO DICKIE THAT NIGHT.
CAN WE LOOK AT POSSIBLY A THREE PHASE APPROACH WHERE PHASE ONE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE THE, THE ROUNDABOUT AND SAFER ACCESS TO THE WENDY HILL PARK AND KIND OF SEEING WHAT HAPPENS THERE.
HOW MUCH USE ARE WE GETTING? A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM DAVIDSON COUNTY COMING IN THERE AND SO FORTH THAT WE'RE OPENING OURSELVES UP FOR A LOT MORE THROUGH TRAFFIC BY DOING ANYTHING.
SO I, AND DO, UM, PHASE ONE WITH THE ROUNDABOUT.
GET US IN AND GET US SETTLED IN THAT PARK, GET KIND OF A USE IDEA BEFORE MOVING TO PHASE TWO.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PHASE THREE IS MUCH FURTHER OUT THAT I, I JUST, YEAH, I MEAN YOU, YOU CAN PHASE IT HOWEVER YOU WISH.
I I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW THE LOGIC OF, OF THAT.
UM, IT'LL END UP COSTING MORE IN THE LONG RUN.
UM, I MEAN NOT, NOT NECESSARILY SURE IF YOU BUILD THE ROUNDABOUT BASED ON, I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU, IF YOU DO PHASE ONE AND THEN YOU, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT, PHASE ONE BECOMES PHASE TWO AND THAT'S SEVERAL MORE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THEN IT WILL COST MORE
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THAN, THAN IT WOULD TO DO IT.NOW THIS GENTLEMAN, THE OTHER NIGHT, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY OFF OF SPLIT LOG WITH THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, MR. WOLF CAME UP AFTER THE MEETING AND WHILE HE IS TALKING ABOUT THAT PART OF TOWN, I THINK THIS IS TRUE WITH OLD SMYRNA, HE SAID, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY MIRRORS I'VE REPLACED ON MY TRUCK.
HE SAID, AND I DRIVE A GREAT BIG TRUCK, TWO 50 BIG ONE MIRRORS STICK OUT.
I DON'T THINK THOSE GET REPORTED AS ACCIDENTS.
THEY DON'T, BUT I THINK THEY'RE A FOOT AWAY FROM BEING AN ACCIDENT.
AND I DO THINK WE HAVE TO IMPROVE THAT ROAD.
WAIT, A, A SERIOUS ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
I GO THROUGH THERE A LOT AND I'M A BRENTWOOD RESIDENT BECAUSE, BUT, AND I THINK WHETHER WE BUILD OR NOT, YOU'RE NOT THAT MANY HOUSES.
BUT ALSO WHAT DAVIDSON COUNTY'S DOING IS IMPACTING US AND PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO WORK IN BRENTWOOD.
SO I MEAN, WE GOTTA IMPROVE THE ROAD WHETHER WE HAVE MORE HOUSES THERE OR NOT.
I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE TRAFFIC.
SO, AND DEAR TO YOUR POINT, KEN, AS THAT THEY'RE WALKING THAT, THAT BERM WITH, UH, SOME OF THE DALE FOLKS AND YOU CAN SEE PARTS WHERE THE, THE ROAD HAS ACTUALLY BEEN COLLAPSING IN THE GREATER DITCH HAS BEEN PATCHED.
IT'S JUST COLD PATCH TO HOLD IT TOGETHER.
BUT THAT'S, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T DO THAT FOREVER.
I DRIVE A HONDA ODYSSEY VAN, WHICH IS NOT A REAL WIDE VEHICLE, BUT IF A NORMAL SIZE LIKE A F-150 IS COMING AND THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE LARGER MIRRORS NOW FOR SAFETY.
IT'S, YOU HAVE TO LITERALLY GET YOUR TIRES OFF USUALLY ABOUT THAT FAR ON THE EDGE OF THE ROAD TO GET BY 'EM AND THEY HAVE TO DO THE SAME.
AND SO YEAH, THAT ROAD DEFINITELY NEEDS IMPROVEMENT.
AND IT, THE PHASE ONE IS THE WORST PART.
YEAH, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S, I'M NOT, I KNOW PHASE TWO IS A DIFFERENT PROJECTING SERVER.
TO ME THE DANGER IS IN PHASE ONE AND WE GOTTA FI FIGURE OUT SOMEHOW TO IMPROVE THAT.
WHICH IS WHY I, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE THINK THE, THE CONCERN IS THE CONDITION OF ALL OF PHASE ONE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE JUST FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, DON'T THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO JUST DO A ROUNDABOUT AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO TIE IT BACK INTO THE EXISTING ROAD SOMEHOW.
SO YOU'RE TEARING INTO THAT, UM, EXISTING WALK WALL MEETING SOMEWHERE RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF WINDY HILL TO TIE BACK FROM THE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KEEP THE DOG LEG FOR NOW.
WELL THEN WHAT'S THE ROUNDABOUT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ROUNDABOUT WOULD DO THEN.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN TYING IT BACK IN.
IF YOU'RE JUST GONNA TAKE, THEN I DON'T THINK YOU, YOU ACHIEVE ANYTHING, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
IF YOU MAKE THE ROUNDABOUT JUST A THREE-LEGGED ROUNDABOUT, AND THEN YOU STILL GOTTA GO DOWN AND DO THE WELL, BUT YOU KE YOU BUILD IT FOR THE FOURTH LEG LATER ON, BUT YOU DON'T USE IT, YOU BLOCK IT OFF FROM NOW AND YOU DON'T USE IT.
BUT I, I GUESS I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'VE ACHIEVED AND IF SAFETY IS THE CONCERN, THE SAFETY CONCERN DOESN'T GET ADDRESSED BY THAT.
IT'S, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WOULD BE OUR, OUR PERSPECTIVE ON IT.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE DOWN THE ROCKWALL TEMPORARILY TO PUT IT BACK UP LATER.
IT'S CAN BE RESTACKED THAT, I MEAN WE'RE RESTACKING ROCKWALL ALL OVER.
WE'RE GONNA DO THAT ON MURRAY LANE.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES THAT, THAT IT CAN HAPPEN.
BUT YOU GOTTA CUT TREES THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO CUT TO MAKE IF YOU MADE THAT CONNECTION.
MAYBE AGAIN, I JUST, OUR POSITION WOULD BE YOU DON'T ACHIEVE ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN OUT THERE, WHICH IS THE SAFETY OF THE CORRIDOR, NOT THE INTERSECTION.
THE INTERSECTION ISN'T A SAFETY CONCERN.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS SOME OF THE THINGS WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN TWO WEEKS, WHICH IS WHEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE RACKET FACILITY AND THE EXTRA MONEY THAT WOULD NEED TO GO TO THAT AND WHAT ARE THE OTHER CAPITAL PRIORITIES THAT NEED OTHER FUNDING ALSO.
THIS IS AT THE BUDGET MEETING? NO, THIS, I MEAN AT THE, AT THE 18TH.
IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE RACKET FACILITY, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS, WELL HOW WILL YOU FUND THAT? AND ONE OF THE, YOU GOTTA COME UP WITH EXTRA MONEY.
OKAY, WELL THERE'S ALSO OTHER PROJECTS THAT NEED EXTRA MONEY.
THIS WILL BE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT'LL BE ON THAT LIST THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHERE DOES THAT EXTRA MONEY COME FROM AND WHERE DOES IT GO? DOES A PROJECT LIKE OLD SMIRNA A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN SOMETHING ELSE? I GUESS THEN WHY DOESN'T THAT JUST ALL HAPPEN AT A BUDGET MEETING WHERE WE'RE DISCUSSING ALL THE PROJECTS? 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE ON THE, IF WE DISCUSS THE BRACKET FACILITY AND THE FINANCING, WE AUTOMATICALLY ARE SHIFTING THINGS AND WE'RE GETTING INTO A FULL BUDGET DISCUSSION.
IT REALLY IS BETTER START TO DO AT THE BUDGET MEETING.
I'M NOT GONNA BE AT THE BUDGET MEETING.
LET'S DO IT ON THE A AND I THOUGHT Y'ALL WANTED A, A DISCUSSION OF THE RACKET FACILITY BY ITSELF.
YEAH, BY, BUT I MEAN A DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RACKET FACILITY ISN'T AN ISOLATED DECISION.
THERE ARE OTHER RAMIFICATIONS TO THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL PRESENT TO YOU.
I'M NOT EXPECTING YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A DECISION ON THE 18TH.
IT'S JUST THE INFORMATION FOR Y'ALL TO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE PRIMARY QUESTIONS WE WILL HAVE FOR YOU ON THE 18TH IS WHAT IS THE PROCESS YOU ALL WOULD
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LIKE TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION? IS THERE, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, IS THERE SOME COMMUNITY INPUT PROCESS TOWARDS THE RACKET FACILITY, WHATEVER ELSE? AND, AND SO IT'LL RUN IN CONJUNCTION AND IN PARALLEL TO THE BUDGET PROCESS, I'M ASSUMING.LAST THING JUST, AND I'LL SEND THIS TO YOU IN AN EMAIL.
HOLLY WANTED TO TOUT, UH, OUR PUBLIC RECORDS ACTIVITY FOR THE 23 YEAR.
I DON'T THINK YOU ALL REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THE VOLUME OF OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS THAT ARE RECEIVED AND HOLLY HANDLES AND PROCESSES ALL THOSE 762 DISTINCT REQUESTS IN THE LAST, UH, CALENDAR YEAR.
UM, MAJORITY ARE PLANNING AND CODES POLICE RELATED.
UM, LEGAL HAS HIGH BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THEY REVIEW ALMOST ALL OF THEM THAT BEFORE THEY GO OUT REVIEWS THEM.
SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY LEGAL REQUESTS, THEY'RE JUST LEGAL ACTIVITIES THAT SHE HAS TO DO.
BUT JUST WOULD LIKE YOU YOU TO SEE THAT, UH, THE VOLUME, THAT WAS THE BIG JUMP FROM 2021 TO 2022 WHEN WE WENT 6 92 RED CROSS TO 6 72 AND THE BIG INVOICE TOTAL, LIKE THAT SEEMS LIKE A BIG JUMP.
AND REMEMBER, WE CAN ONLY INVOICE FOR REQUESTS THAT TAKE AT LEAST MORE THAN ONE HOUR OF STAFF TIME AND THAT THEY TAKE THE PHYSICAL COPIES OUT.
I WAS LIKE, WHAT, WHAT POPPED IN? OKAY.
ARE THERE REQUESTS FROM RESIDENTS OF BRENTWOOD OR PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF BRENTWOOD? BOTH.
IS THERE PRETTY MUCH 50 50 OR, UM, THEY HAVE TO BE A TENNESSEE RESIDENT.
ANYONE OUTSIDE OF THE STATE IS DENIED, SO THEY HAVE TO GIVE PROOF.
THEY'RE A TENNESSEE RESIDENT, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU IF WHAT THE, IF PEOPLE ARE BRENTWOOD OR WE DON'T HAVE STATISTICS FOR THAT.
THE MAJORITY OF THE PLANNING AND CODES ONES I THINK ARE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR A PLAT OF THEIR PROPERTY OR THOSE, SO THOSE ARE PROBABLY BRENTWOOD RESIDENTS.
A LOT OF, I'M ASSUMING ACCIDENT AIRPORTS AND BODY CAMERA THINGS AND THAT STUFF.
YEAH, WE'VE UH, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF UPTICK.
WE'RE SEEING SOME MEDIA REQUESTS FOR YEAH.
AND SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REQUEST AND ACTIVITY? YEAH.
HOLLY
'CAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO ROUTE THE REQUEST AND THEN YOU HAVE TO INVOICE FOR THE REQUEST IF NEEDED.
AND YOU HAVE TO COMMUNICATE BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM.
IF YOU, THEY DON'T GIVE SIGNIFICANT DETAILS, YOU HAVE TO SAY, OKAY, WELL WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU REQUESTING? SO THE SOFTWARE KIND OF TRACKS HOW MANY, UH, TIMES A PERSON GOES INTO THE REQUEST TO WORK STEPS IN FULFILLING THOSE SEVEN, SIX, OKAY.
ONE REQUEST COULD GENERATE 10 STEPS, RIGHT? MM-HMM,
IS THERE A LOT OF NEWS PEOPLE THAT WANT THIS? IS THIS, UM, CHARLES'S CATEGORY WOULD BE MAINLY, UM, HE HAD ABOUT FIVE REQUESTS THAT CAME SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM.
BUT PD HAS A LOT FROM THE MEDIA, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THAT'S WHY I WAS AT LEAST 3 21.
AND AGAIN, WE, WE HAVE THIS, HOLLY'S DONE A GREAT JOB FULLY AUTOMATED WHERE IT'S AN ONLINE REQUEST AND AN ONLINE DELIVERY TO 'EM.
AND SO IT, IT'S, IT WORKS GREAT.
IT'S JUST BE AWARE THAT IT'S A CONTINUING ISSUE IN TERMS OF JUST TIME AND RESOURCES, BUT THANK GOD WE HAVEN'T AUTOMATED THE WAY WE DO OTHERWISE.
SO ANYWAY, JUST LITTLE INFORMATION TO SHARE.
I'LL SEND YOU THIS IN AN EMAIL TO YOU.
SO, AND I'LL SEND YOU THE OLD SRNA ROAD ACCIDENT DATA THAT WAS IN AN EMAIL L AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A FEW CHANGES TO THE, UM, NONPROFIT, UM, POLICY.
SEND IT BACK OUT TO Y'ALL AND, UM, MAYBE DISCUSS IT BRIEFLY AGAIN ON THE 18TH IF WE'VE GOT TIME BEFORE WE KICK INTO THE RACKET FACILITY ONE, AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR HANGING IN THERE FOR A VERY SHORT AGENDA.
THAT CHECK IS STILL 11 O'CLOCK
WE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIGHTER BRIEFING IN DECEMBER, SO TAKE IT BACK AT SOME POINT.
IT'S THE OVERTIME THAT WE WANTED.