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ALRIGHT.[ Brentwood Planning Commission Briefing December 28, 2023 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Planning Commission to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
UM, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE HERE.UM, BOB'S NOT WITH US THIS MORNING.
HE'LL BE AT THE REGULAR MEETING ON TUESDAY.
UM, WE HAVE, I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GREAT, UM, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND WELCOME BACK.
UM, WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THE FIRST ITEM IS A FINAL PLAT FOR PHASE ONE OF THE ANNA SUBDIVISION.
UM, THIS IS 16 LOTS ON APPROXIMATELY 26 ACRES.
UM, I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ALL THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THE CORNER OF CONCORD IN FRANKLIN.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A 20 FOOT MULTI-USE OR ACCESS EASEMENT WITH A 10 FOOT MULTI, UH, USE TRAIL ALONG CONCORD, UM, UP HERE THAT WILL CONNECT, UM, THIS SECTION OF CONCORD TO FRANKLIN ROAD.
THE IMPROVEMENTS ON FRANKLIN ROAD.
YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, THREE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UM, AND IT'S JUST HOUSEKEEPING.
UM, NO MAJOR ISSUES WHATSOEVER.
WE ALSO HAVE 12 STANDARD REQUIREMENTS AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT.
UH, I DID HAVE SOMEBODY CALL ME, THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT BERM ALONG FRANKLIN ROAD WOULD BE LOWERED BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE THOSE HOUSES.
THEY'RE GONNA BE SUCH NICE HOUSES.
I THOUGHT THE CONVERSATION WAS GONNA GO A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT THE GUY SAID THEY'RE GONNA BE REALLY NICE HOUSES.
WE WANT TO SEE 'EM FROM FRANKLIN ROAD, BUT, UH, WELL, THERE'S PLANTS ON TOP OF THE BURN NOW.
WHAT WERE THE OTHER CHANGES, TODD? BESIDES THE MULTI EAST TRAIL? THAT'S IT.
UM, THEY'RE JUST READY FOR, THEY'VE BEEN DOING CONSTRUCTION AND THEY'RE READY TO PLA SO THEY CAN START SELLING LOTS.
UM, ON THE MAP IT SAYS, UH, THAT IT'S THE FELLOWSHIP BIBLE CHURCH LOT.
ARE THEY HOLDING THAT FOR SOMETHING OR IS THAT THEIR ACCESS? NO.
SO, UM, IS IT, AND IS IT FELLOWSHIP OR BRENTWOOD BAPTIST? IT'S FELLOWSHIP.
BECAUSE UP ON YOUR SLIDE I THINK IT SAID SO.
SO THE NAME OF THE PLATT, IF YOU NOTICE IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER, IT'S IN A SUBDIVISION, PHASE ONE AND RE SUBDIVISION OF LOT TWO, UH, BRENTWOOD BAPTIST AND FELLOWSHIP BIBLE.
SO THIS, THIS PROPERTY, THE ANA PROPERTY IS TIED TO, IT WAS PART OF AN ORIGINAL PLAT THAT INCLUDED FELLOWSHIP AND A PART OF BRENTWOOD BAPTIST.
SO IN ORDER TO CLEAN IT UP OFFICIALLY, UM, THAT HAS TO BE THE NAME AND THEY HAVE TO SHOW THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
WHEN THEY SPLIT OUT ANNA FROM IT.
IS THERE A LOT? 14? THERE IS A, THERE IS A PHASE TWO THAT'S GONNA BE PROPOSED.
THEY'RE WAITING ON A LETTER OF MAP PROVISION FROM FEMA.
THEY'RE DOING SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE FLOODPLAIN.
UM, AND SO PHASE TWO WILL HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL LOT AND OPEN SPACE SIX OF ANNA.
SO YOU SEE THE GAP IN THE NUMBERING? IS THAT WHAT YOU NOTICED? THERE WILL BE ANOTHER LOT AS PART OF PHASE TWO IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THAT LOT 18, THAT BIG PIECE IS NOT GONNA BE DEVELOPED AS, IS IT STILL OWNED BY THE CHURCH? YES.
PHASE TWO IS OPEN SPACE SIX AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT HERE I'LL, LET'S SEE THIS RIGHT HERE.
SO IT'S EFFECTIVELY JUST ONE MORE ROAD.
SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'LL BE A ALLISON.
THERE'LL BE ONE MORE LOT AND OPEN SPACE AS PART OF PHASE TWO.
THERE'S GONNA BE 17 TOTAL BETWEEN WHAT PHASES? ONE AND TWO.
IF NO MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT.
UM, PUBLIC STORAGE LOCATED AT 1734 CARUTHERS PARKWAY.
REQUEST APPROVAL OF REVISED BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
THIS PROPERTY IS BEHIND THE SHELL STATION ON CARUTHERS.
UM, I THINK CAR, IT WAS JUST PURCHASED BY PUBLIC STORAGE, UH, PREVIOUSLY, I BELIEVE IT WAS CALLED, UH, SIMPLY STORAGE.
SO, UM, PUBLIC STORAGE HAS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND THEY, OF COURSE THEY WANNA DO THEIR
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COLORS AND SIGNAGE.SO, UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, PAINT, I BELIEVE IT'S THREE AWNINGS, UH, ORANGE AND, AND THEN ADD THERE, UH, REPLACE THE FACE AND THE EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN ALSO.
AND THEN PUT, UH, REPLACE THE SIMPLY, SIMPLY SELF STORAGE SIGN WITH, UH, UH, PUBLIC STORAGE SIGN.
UM, WE HAVE 11 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL STANDARD AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
CONSENT ITEM NUMBER THREE, MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION FOR THE, UH, GODDARD SCHOOL LOCATED AT ONE 10 WINTER CIRCLE HERE IN MARYLAND FARMS. UM, SO THIS PROPOSAL, UM, YOU GUYS APPROVED THE RENOVATIONS TO THE GOT GODDARD SCHOOL.
SO THIS PROPOSAL IS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.
THERE'S THE EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN.
SO THEY WANNA REMOVE THAT AND INSTALL THEIR MONUMENT SIGN.
IT WILL BE NINE FEET FROM THE BACK OF THE CURB OR PAVEMENT.
AND THE SIGN, UM, MEETS THE HEIGHT AND SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, LIMITATIONS PER OUR SIGN ORDINANCE.
WE HAVE NINE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT.
IT DOESN'T BLOCK ANY TRAFFIC FIELD.
NO, THE SITE VISIBILITY IS FINE.
UM, CONSENT ITEM FOUR, MINOR SITE PLAN ALTERATION THE BRENTWOOD NAIL BAR LOCATED AT 5 0 0 4
UM, THIS PROPERTY ZONE C FOUR AND THEY'RE PROPOSING NEW WALL SIGNAGE.
AND SINCE IT'S C FOUR, YOU GUYS HAVE TO APPROVE THE WALL SIGNAGE.
UM, THESE ARE GOING TO BE, UM, INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED AND I'M GONNA ASK ALLISON A QUESTION 'CAUSE SHE DOES MOST OF THE SIGN REVIEWS.
WHY DOES IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S EXISTING.
IS THAT, I THINK THAT'S JUST VERY GOOD.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.
UM, SO THAT I SHOULDN'T SAY FABULOUS NAIL BAR RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE, UH, 11 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND AGAIN, WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE STAFF NOTES.
MOVING, MOVING ALONG TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
UM, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR PARKSIDE AT BRENT HAVEN SUBDIVISION PHASE TWO, SECTIONS TWO AND THREE.
EPSON ASSOCIATES REQUEST APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAN SHOWING 39 LOTS ON APPROXIMATELY 40 ACRES.
THESE ARE THE FINAL SECTIONS OF THE PARKSIDE AT BRENT HAVEN SUBDIVISION.
THE ORIGINAL PHASE TWO LAYOUT FROM 1995 SHOWED 106 LOTS.
HOW MANY DO THEY, IS IT PARTIALLY? NO, THAT'S TOTAL.
IS IT PARTIALLY BUILDED OUT PHASE TWO OR NO? UM, OR IS PHASE TWO JUST STARTING? SO WE HAVE PHASE TWO, SECTION ONE, SECTION ONE'S DONE.
THIS IS, THIS IS SECTIONS TWO AND THREE.
UM, SO IN, IN 2007 THERE WAS A MODIFIED, UM, DESIGN, UM, ORIGINALLY, GOLLY, AND THE HISTORY YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO, THE HISTORY REALLY GOES BACK ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF DIGITAL SUBMITTALS BACK THEN.
SO THE HARD COPIES ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT, UH, READILY AVAILABLE.
I FOUND OUT THIS MORNING THAT THERE IS SOME INFORMATION ON THE FINAL PLATS.
SO I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA PULL THAT INFORMATION AND INCLUDE IT AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE ON TUESDAY.
AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND UPLOAD THE PLATTS, WHICH HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
WE'LL ALL, WE'LL INCLUDE THOSE ON THE POWERPOINT AND
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THE INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT ONLINE BEFORE THE MEETING.BUT ONE CHANGE THAT WAS MADE, UM, THE ROADWAY, LET'S SEE HERE.
SO ORIGINALLY THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE CONNECTED THROUGH, OKAY, SO IN OH FIVE OR OH SEVEN, THIS, THEY DETERMINED THIS TO BE A BLUE LINE STREAM.
SO THEY, THEY ELIMINATED THIS CONNECTION HERE AND IN DOING SO, AND THAT'S THE CURRENT PROPOSAL, IT'S ELIMINATED.
AND IN DOING SO, THEY LOST FIVE LOTS.
SO THEY ARE, UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING 39 LOTS, UM, FIVE FEWER THAN WAS ORIGINALLY SHOWN.
THE PRELIMINARY PLAN HAS EXPIRED.
SO, UM, WE REVIEWED IT FOR CURRENT OSRD STANDARDS, UM, OPEN SPACE LOT SIZES, LOT WIDTHS, YOU KNOW, FOR TRANSITIONAL, CONVENTIONAL LOT WIDTHS REQUIREMENT WITH REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEY MEET THE CURRENT OSRD STANDARDS.
UM, SINCE THE PLAN HAS EXPIRED AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE, IT ALSO HAS TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND, AND THAT YOU FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
UM, WE HAVE SIX CONDITION CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UM, PRIMARILY JUST CLEANUP ITEMS, UM, LIKE OPEN SPACE.
WE DON'T WANT, UH, BLANKET PEDES IN ALL THE OPEN SPACE.
WE, WE, WE, WE WOULD PREFER THAT IF THERE'S AN EASEMENT NEEDED THAT IT BE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT AND SHOWN WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UM, OTHER MINOR, UH, ENGINEERING CLEANUP ITEMS AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE STAFF NOTES.
UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS DEVELOPMENT, ORIGINALLY THEY DONATED A, UH, QUITE A BIT OF PROPERTY TO THE CITY, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE PARK AROUND THE RIVER.
UM, THE BIKE PATH AND EVERYTHING AROUND THIS PROPERTY, THEY DEDICATED TO ALMOST, I BELIEVE IT WAS 40, AROUND 44 ACRES, UM, TO THE CITY.
AND THAT DATES BACK TO, I THINK IT WAS DEEDED IN 95, THE, THE DEEDS FOR THAT DEDICATION.
AND THERE WERE SOME AGREEMENTS BACK THEN WHERE THEY WOULD GET CREDIT OPEN SPACE CREDIT FOR THE FUTURE BUILD OUT OF PARKSIDE OF BRIGHTHAVEN.
SO YOUR COMMENT, THE, THE CHANGE FROM PUDE TO PUD AE IS RELEVANT TO, OR RELATED TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT OPEN SPACE? UH, NO, NOT THAT COMMENT.
REMOVE PD AND NOT, THAT'S WHERE THE MALE KIOSK IS.
OH, WHERE THE MALE KIOSK IS? YEAH.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE BITTY SLIVER.
THIS WON'T AFFECT THE TRAIL AT ALL, WILL IT? NO.
THE GREENWAY, WE, NO, I GUESS YOU MIGHT SEE MORE THE BUILDING COMING OUT 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, BUT THIS IS ALL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THE WEST SIDE SIDE, THE WAY THE TRAIL KIND OF WEAVES WITH THE RIVER, BUT WILL BE ALL BE ON THE, I GUESS WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER.
AND I'M, I'M ASSUMING THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF AN ELEVATION CHANGE.
MI MICHAEL, WHERE YOU'RE GONNA, WELL YOU'LL SEE THE, THE, YOU GOT POINT OF THE, UH, IT'S NOT A VERY GOOD ONE.
THIS IS WEEL ROAD HERE, I THINK.
UH, SO AS YOU'RE COMING FROM CROCKETT KIND OF ALONG WHERE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THESE HOMES HERE, WE'LL GO, WE WILL APPEAR TO BE FAIRLY CLOSE, BUT THEY WILL BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, OF THE RIVER.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE RIGHT ON THE TRAIL, BUT IT'LL BE A VISUAL CHANGE FOR THAT NOSE OF THAT SUBDIVISION THERE.
UH, NO, NO PORTION OF THE LOTS WILL TOUCH THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD.
WHAT'S THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF AN ACRE? UH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
DO YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE SIZE OF THE LOTS? UH, IT'S A LOT CHART, BUT IT'S, I MEAN THEY'RE ALL, SOME OF 'EM ARE THE ACRE WITH OPEN SPACE AROUND THE PERIMETER ON THE, THE NO SIDE UP THERE, THE NORTHWEST SIDE UP THERE.
AND THEN AS WE GET DOWN INTERNAL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SMALLER DOWN THERE, KIND OF DOWN TOWARDS, THEY'RE STILL A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN THE MINIMUM.
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I WOULD SAY ON AVERAGE THEY'RE HALF AN ACRE.UM, THERE IS A A LOT TABLE ON THE PLANS.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, UM, I CAN LOOK AT THAT AFTER THE MEETING IF YOU WANNA KNOW THE AVERAGE.
UM, SO THEY EACH HAVE ONE EXIT OUT TO ONE TO KELLY WOOD AND ONE THE FRONTIER, IS THAT RIGHT? UM, LET'S SEE.
AND LIKE I SAID, UM, THERE, APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE, ON THE, UH, RECORDED PLATTS AND WE'LL GET THAT INFORMATION UPLOADED, UM, TO THE POWERPOINT AND ON TIME ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
UM, WATER SERVICES REVIEWED THE PLANS AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.
ALRIGHT, SO IF NO MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE ON.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, I GUESS IT'S THE OVERALL MAP THAT SHOWS SHEETS THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE, UM, IT'S THE, THE AREA ON THE COVER, IT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE, UH, BLACK LINE.
IS THAT ACCESS OUT TO THE, THE CITY PARKS OR IS THAT JUST LIKE UP IN THE CORNER? UP IN THE RIGHT CORNER THERE? UM, UP HERE, YEAH.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST A, THAT'S THE WATER SEWER MAP THAT WAS PART OF THE OPEN SPACE DEDICATED TO CITY BACK WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY CITY PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.
IS THERE ANY ACCESS FROM THIS LIKE OVER THE CREEK TO THE WALKING PATH OR DO THEY GO DOWN TO, I THINK THERE'S ONE OFF THAT CUL-DE-SAC ON THE
YEAH, THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.
YEAH, THERE'S EXISTING ONE THERE.
I'VE SEEN THE IMPACT YOU HAVE.
IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO ADD MORE ACCESS TO THE PARKS AREA? THERE WAS A PRETTY GOOD SPEED GRAY CHANGE.
SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT I, AS FAR AS FEASIBILITY WITH THAT CHANGE OF ELEVATION, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'D BE ABLE TO GET UP.
I THINK THE ONE THAT TIES INTO WIGGLE OR ZIGZAGS BACK AND FORTH, IT DOES.
SO I THINK IT'D BE TOUGH TRYING TO MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, COMPLIANT.
SO BACK TO AVERAGE LOT SIZE, ARE THEY SMALLER THAN THE PREVIOUS PHASE? WELL, ON SOME OF THESE SMALLER ONES DOWN HERE IN THE SOUTHEAST, WE, WE GAVE ALL THAT OPEN SPACE BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PLAN DID NOT HAVE ANY OPEN SPACE BECAUSE ALL THE OPEN SPACE WAS DEDICATED.
SO WE, WE SHRUNK THOSE LOTS DOWN TO HAVE THE OPEN SPACE BEHIND IT.
BUT I THINK WE STILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THOSE LOTS WERE A LITTLE BIT LARGER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE LOST ALL THAT OPEN SPACE.
REMIND ME, WHAT IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR SRD 14,000 SQUARE FEET.
OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH OPEN SPACE SURE.
IT DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO WILSON PIKE, RIGHT? UH, NO.
WILSON PIKES THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER.
IT'S NOT, YOU COULDN'T GET THERE.
SOME OF THE LOTS IN PHASE ONE AND TWO OR PHASE ONE AREN'T AS BIG AS THE WATCH THROUGHOUT.
WELL, PHASE ONE IS THE ORIGINAL THEN THE, THE SECTION ONE.
THAT THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT LARGER BECAUSE THAT WAS UNDER THE OLD LAYOUT WHERE THERE WAS NO OPEN SPACE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHY THESE CHANGED BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THAT DECISION.
BUT IT, IT IS STILL IS THE SAME AREA, BUT IT JUST, IT'S BEING DEDICATED OPEN SPACE PRESERVE A LOT OF THE TREE AS WELL.
SO WHAT ABOUT RUNOFF OVER THE HILL, LIKE DURING CONSTRUCTIONS AND EVEN AFTERWARDS DOWN INTO THE RIVER? WHAT WAS THAT MA'AM? I'M SORRY, I JUST WHAT ABOUT THE RUNOFF FROM, FROM THOSE PROPERTIES WHOSE, WHOSE BACKYARDS GO UP ON TOP? YEAH, WE, WE, MOST OF THE RUNOFF BEING DIRECTED TO A BUYER DETENTION POND AND, AND DETENTION POND.
SO THAT, BECAUSE I THINK PREVIOUS PLAN, NO DETENTION REQUIRED BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT TO THE RIVER.
BUT THE CITY ASKED US TO MEET THE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS.
WE MEET THE, THE CITY REQUIRED DETENTION POND.
SO PRETTY, I RAN THAT THING ALONG.
IF NO MORE QUESTIONS, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR AREA CODE SUBDIVISION 98 9 SAN DONALD ROAD.
UM, SO THIS IS 19 LOTS, 28.47 ACRES.
AS YOU WILL RECALL, THE ANNEXATION AND REZONING WAS APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER.
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LOTS RANGE IN SIZE FROM ONE TO 1.4 ACRES.THEY ARE PROPOSING A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ALONG SAM DONALD ROAD.
THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE REQUIRED BUFFER ALONG SAM DONALD ROAD.
AND UM, THIS LAYOUT DIFFERS A LITTLE FROM THE ORIGINAL, UH, REZONING AND ANNEXATION LAYOUT, WHICH WAS NON-BINDING.
UM, UM, SO THEY'RE PROVIDING, UH, FUTURE CONNECTIVITY TO THE, UM, PROPERTY TO THE WEST HERE.
AND THEN THEY'RE PROVIDING CONNECTIVE FUTURE CONNECTIVITY TO THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST.
THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL, UH, ACCESS THROUGH THEIR, UM, SUBDIVISION TO THE TWO LOTS TO THE SOUTH.
THE EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE WEST WILL REMAIN.
AND THEY ARE ALSO A BUILT OR A POSSIBLE BUILT THE YELLOW LINE TO THE LOTS IN THE SOUTH.
IS THAT GONNA BE A USING, THEY'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA BECOME THE NEW ROUTE TO THOSE LOTS OR IT'S JUST GONNA BE, IF THEY WANT TO PUT IT IN, IT'S GONNA BE IF THEY WANT TO.
BOTH THIS, THE BLUE, THE BLUE ACCESS EASEMENT IS PROPOSED OPEN SPACE, BUT IT WILL ALSO REMAIN AN ACCESS EASEMENT TO SERVE THOSE LOTS TO THE SOUTH.
THEY WILL ALSO DO ANOTHER ACCESS EASEMENT HERE OFF THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC BULB TO SERVE THOSE TWO LOTS AS WELL.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF I, I THINK JANET'S QUESTION, IS IT GONNA BE PAVED? THIS ONE? UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS ONE WILL BE PAVED, BUT THE BLUE ONE IS THE GRAVEL DRIVE.
THAT'S WHERE HOMEOWNER DOWN AT THE BOTTOM WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT.
THAT'S THE ACCESS THAT HE USES TO GET, TO GET OUT OF THERE.
THAT'LL STATE GRAVEL STAY GRAVEL.
SO, SO BEING AN OPEN SPACE FOR THAT SUBDIVISION ALLOWS THOSE PEOPLE TO USE THAT GRAVEL ROAD FOR RECREATIONAL THINGS, BIKE RIDING, ATVS, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO ON IT.
WELL, THERE, SO THERE WILL THERE PROPOSE THERE ARE BOLLARDS AT THE END OF THIS CUL-DE-SAC BULB.
WHICH WOULD PREVENT VEHICULAR ACCESS.
BUT NOT, NOT BIKES AND WALKERS AND WELL, IT WOULDN'T BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN IT IS, YOU KNOW, TODAY.
UM, WOULD BE, I MEAN I GUESS IF THEY WANTED TO WALK, I MEAN, 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 19 PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA USE IT FOR WALKING THE DOG, KIDS RIDING THEIR BIKES AND STUFF.
I MEAN THAT TO ME, THAT WAS HIS BIG CONCERN AT THOSE MEETINGS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA PROVIDE THEM ACCESS DOWN TOWARDS HIS HOUSE.
AND ALSO IF HE'S USING THAT AS HIS WAY IN, THEN HE'S GOT PEDESTRIANS AND, AND BICYCLES AND DOGS AND STUFF THAT HE NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THE TIME.
AND I MEAN, HE WAS WORRIED, I THINK ABOUT SECURITY AT HIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF LIABILITY AND YOU KNOW, HE SAYS HE MOVES EQUIPMENT IN AND OUT.
I MEAN IT IS, UH, THE LAND IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND IT, IT'S OPEN SPACE.
HE HAS AN EASEMENT TO, TO USE IT TO GET TO HIS HOME.
UM, AS FAR AS KEEPING PEOPLE OFF OF IT FOR TRESPASSING, I MEAN IT, IT IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
WELL I I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT CAN BE AN ACCESS EASEMENT DEDICATED TO HE AND HIS NEIGHBOR AND BE COUNTED AS OPEN SPACE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY'S OWNED BY THE S RIGHT.
IT IT'S PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT DOES HE NOT HAVE A DEEDED TO THAT LAND? NO, HE HAS AN ACCESS EASEMENT.
THE EASEMENT EXISTS TODAY AND HE CLEARLY WON'T GIVE IT UP.
HE HAS A RIGHT TO ACCESS IT, TO DRIVE OVER IT THROUGH IT.
WERE HIS CONCERNS TO GET HIS PROPERTY.
HUH? WERE HIS CONCERNS ADDRESSED AT ALL? HE, HE DOESN'T OWN IT, BUT IF HE HAS A, I'M SORRY.
WERE HIS CONCERNS ADDRESSED AT ALL BY THE DEVELOPER OR DOES HE, IS HE STILL CONCERNED? UM, I, I'M SURE HE STILL HAS CONCERNS AND, AND I'M SURE HE'LL BE HERE ON TUESDAY EVENING.
BUT TODD, THE FACT THAT THE ROAD DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE WAS ONE OF HIS CONCERNS THAT WAS ADDRESSED BY THIS POINT.
HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DRIVING OVER THE CURB.
IF THE ROAD WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE, NOW YOU'RE PULLING THE CUL-DE-SAC BACK.
SO THE ROAD WON'T CROSS HIS EASEMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
IT COULD IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT WON'T AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROAD A ROAD A YEAH.
ROAD A IT'LL STOP SHORT OF THAT EASEMENT RIGHT.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF HIS CONCERNS.
BUT AS TODD SAID OTHERWISE, THE ACCESS EASEMENT RIGHTS ARE THE SAME AS THEY ARE TODAY, AS THEY ARE AFTERWARDS.
HE DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY, HE JUST HAS THE RIGHT TO ACCESS IT AND THEY CAN'T PROHIBIT THAT.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT LAST, THAT FEE? HE CALLED ME LAST NIGHT AND ASKED ME TO SHARE SOME THINGS WITH
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TODD, WHICH I WILL.AND HE WILL BE AT THE MEETING ON TUESDAY.
HE'S GONNA HAVE, HE'S GONNA BRING SOME OF THIS UP SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR, BUT I DEVELOPERS ADDRESS SPOT RICK, WHAT PLAN DO YOU WANT? THE UH, TOP THE HIGH LEVEL VIEW SATELLITE VIEW? THIS ONE? YES.
WHAT IS THAT? IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER ROAD THAT RUNS ACROSS THE CORNER OF THIS PROPERTY.
THAT'S PART OF THAT ACCESS EASEMENT.
THAT'S PART OF THE, THAT'S THE ACCESS TODAY.
IT, IT NEEDS TO BE RELOCATED OVER INTO THE EASEMENT.
WHO'S GONNA HANDLE THAT? THE DEVELOPER.
HE'LL BE PUT IN A NEW ROAD THEN FOR HIM.
UM, SO, UH, I'M JUST GONNA MENTION, SO, SO THIS PROPERTY HERE TO THE WEST, UM, RIGHT HERE IS IN OUR FUTURE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY.
AND DUE TO ITS, UH, PROXIMITY TO THE INTERSECTION OF SPLIT LOG AND SAND, DONALD, IT DOESN'T MEET THE, THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD HE EVER WANT TO DEVELOP HIS TRACK, YOU KNOW, MAKE A SUBDIVISION OUT OF IT.
IT DOESN'T MEET THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS FROM THE INTERSECTION HERE.
SO THAT'S ONE REASON STAFF IS PUSHING FOR THIS CONNECTION.
BECAUSE SHOULD HIS PROPERTY EVER DEVELOP, HE REALLY NEEDS THIS STUB IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS TRACK.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
UH, SO THE ROAD A HE, HE WOULD NEED TO, THAT PROPERTY WOULD FEED INTO THAT EASEMENT TO ROAD A LIKE RIGHT THROUGH THERE, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THIS THIS WOULD BE, THIS TRACKS.
UM, ACCESS IF THAT AT SOME POINT FUTURE IF IT WERE TO EVER DEVELOP.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA THAT THERE'S A PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT AT THIS STAGE.
NO, HE WAS AT ONE OF THE, HE WILL SAID THAT HE, IT'LL LATER.
HE, BUT HE WAS THERE AND I, HE'S THE GUY THAT HAS THE HORSES AND, AND HE SAYS HE HAS, HE HAS NO PLANS RIGHT.
I'LL BET HE CAN PREVENT THAT IF YOU WANTED TO.
HOW DEPENDS WHAT THE EASEMENT SAYS.
BECAUSE AN EXCLUSIVE USE EASEMENT, YOU CAN'T HAVE A PUBLIC ROAD RUNNING THROUGH IT.
I'M SORRY, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? IT WAS AN EXCLUSIVE EASEMENT, UH, USE EASEMENT IF HE'S HOW CAN BUILD A ROAD RIGHT ACROSS OF IT.
WELL HE, HE'S NOT, DON'T BLOCK HIS ACCESS.
HE WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS, HE'D HAVE ACCESS NORTH OR SOUTH AND THEN CROSSING A PUBLIC ROAD PROVIDES THAT SAME ACCESS TO HIM.
ALRIGHT, SO IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE, THAT'S THE LAST ITEM.
REMINDER THAT OUR MEETING IS, UH, TUESDAY, JANUARY 2ND, 7:00 PM THANKS FOR COMING OUT.
WE'LL HAVE DINNER AND EVERYTHING.