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I WANNA CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BRENTWOOD B BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS FOR MONDAY, NOVEMBER 20TH, 2023.

UH, ALISON LET THE RECORDS SHOW THAT ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

UH, IF YOU WILL PLEASE STAND AND RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

[ Approval or Correction of Minutes]

HAVE, HAVE THE BOARD MEMBERS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ, UH, THE MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST.

THAT WOULD BE AUGUST 21ST, NO.

SEPTEMBER 18TH.

YES.

ARE THERE ANY, ANY CHANGES? IF THERE ARE NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I SO MOVE.

THANK YOU ERIC.

I SECOND.

THANK YOU, DAVID.

ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OTHERWISE, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, SAY AYE.

A AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY,

[1. BZA2309-001 Accessory Structure Request - Sheridan Park, Lot 17, 5613 Saddlewood Lane, Zoning R-2 - Applicant: JBT Construction LLC]

WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS BZA 2 3 0 9 DASH ZERO ONE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE REQUEST SHERIDAN PARK LOT 17 AT 5 6 1 3 SADDLE WOOD LANE ZONING R TWO, APPLICANT IS JBT CONSTRUCTION.

ALLISON, JBT CONSTRUCTION REQUESTS APPROVAL OF A 435 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTED IN THE REAR BUILDABLE AREA OF THE LOT.

THE STRUCTURE IS CONSTRUCTED OF ENGINEERED WOOD PAINTED TO MATCH THE TRIM ON THE EXISTING HOUSE.

IT HAS A SHINGLE ROOF AND WILL BE 12 FEET TALL.

THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY 36 FEET TALL.

THE STRUCTURE IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

A PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR DID NOT APPLY FOR A BILLING PERMIT AND DID NOT GAIN APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.

UM, I LOST MY SPOT.

I'M SORRY.

UM, MORE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

WHEN JBT CONSTRUCTION APPLIED FOR A BILLING PERMIT PLANNING AND CODE STAFF NOTED THAT IT WAS GREATER THAN 225 SQUARE FEET, IT NEEDED TO BE APPROVED BY THE BCA, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING TONIGHT.

THERE ARE FOUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AS WE FIND THAT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE, INCLUDING HAVING COMPATIBLE MATERIALS AND ROOF PITCHES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALLISON.

IS THERE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS? IF, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME.

UM, ARE YOU WITH JBT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

UH, JASON TIDWELL.

I'M THE OWNER OF JBT.

OKAY.

JASON, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED? I MEAN, WE KINDA CAME INTO A SLOPPY SITUATION, SO WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET OUR ENGINEERS OUT THERE TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE AND GET ENGINEERED LETTERS ON THAT, THE FOOTINGS AND THEN THE ELECTRICAL.

AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT.

THEY'RE GONNA DO A, A WOOD-BURNING FIREPLACE.

UM, THEY HAVEN'T, I MEAN THEY KIND OF STARTED THAT WITH THAT CMU BLOCK IN THE BACK.

I, WE SAW PICTURES OF THAT.

YEAH.

WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE AND MAKE SURE IT'S DONE CORRECTLY AND, YOU KNOW, HIGH ENOUGH IT'S GONNA BE A WOOD BURNER, SO IT'LL BE UP ABOVE THE RIDGE, BUT I THINK I PUT THAT ON THE DRAWING.

SO, YEAH.

OTHER THAN THAT IT'S, FROM WHAT I'VE INSPECTED AND LOOKED AT, IT'S, IT LOOKS CORRECTLY DONE.

UM, I THINK WALKER DELIVERED THE LUMBER TO IT, SO THEY PROBABLY HELPED HIM WITH THE ENGINEERING OF THE BEAMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK AFTER OUR ENGINEERS LOOK AT IT AND THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, WE CAN, ONCE IT'S PERMITTED, WE CAN PROBABLY FINISH IT UP AND GET IT.

OKAY.

FINISHED? YEP.

DID THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO.

ARE YOU CHANGING ANYTHING? ARE YOU ADDING ANYTHING? JUST FINISHING WHAT THEIR, THEIR OTHER CONTRACTOR'S ORIGINAL SCOPE WAS.

SO, SO THAT'S SHINGLE NOT METAL, RIGHT? THAT IS SHINGLE, YES SIR.

IT'S A 30 YEAR DIMENSIONAL SHINGLE.

WHAT'S THE SPAN RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT? UM, FROM OUTSIDE OF OUTSIDE, IT'S FROM THE EDGE OF THE, OF THE FREEZE OF THE FACIA BOARD TO THE EDGE OF FACIA BOARD IS 29 FEET.

SO THAT SPAN IS ROUGHLY, YOU KNOW, KNOCKOFF.

I MEAN IT'S PROBABLY, I MEAN, 20.

AND THOSE ARE, ARE THOSE L VLS YOU SAW? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

YEAH, THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE TRIPLE LVLS.

WHO IS THE PREVIOUS BUILDER? DO WE KNOW? I, I DON'T KNOW.

I, I WAS CONTACTED BY THE HOMEOWNER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

YEAH.

UM, IS AS FAR AS THE FINAL, UM, IS IT GONNA BE LIKE, USUALLY I SEE SOMETHING, I GUESS A LITTLE MORE SUBSTANTIAL AS FAR AS THE LEG, I MEAN, COMING DOWN ON THE SIDES, I MEAN, IS IT, AS FAR AS THE WEIGHT OF IT, IS IT GONNA BE, I'M

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JUST THINKING OF, THE ONLY THING I'M REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT OR CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT, IS THAT 28 FOOT SPAN, DOES IT NEED SOMETHING IN THE CENTER? AND THAT'S WHAT OUR ENGINEERS WILL OKAY.

WHEN HE COMES, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T HAD THEM GO OUT THERE YET.

'CAUSE I WASN'T EVEN SURE IF WE WERE GONNA GET APPROVED FOR IT.

SO I WANTED TO GET ALL THAT APPROVED BEFORE WE HAD IT.

'CAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE TO PUT A POST IN THE CENTER SPAN.

OKAY.

JUST, JUST DEPENDS ON THE DEFLECTION AND THE ENGINEERING OF THOSE THREE BEAMS. OKAY.

SO, WHICH THAT'LL ALL BE ADDRESSED IN OUR, ONCE WE GET AN INSPECTION, WE'LL HAVE TO INSPECT IT THROUGH AN ENGINEERED PROCESS ANYWAY.

SO WE'LL HAVE AN ACTUAL STRUCTURAL ENGINEER OUT THERE TO DO ALL OF THE INSPECTIONS.

OKAY.

CAN YOU ASK WALKER IF THEY HAVE THE BEAN CALCS? THEY DO.

YEAH.

THEY WON'T GIVE 'EM TO YOU? NO, THEY WILL.

SO THEY, THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE PROVED IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD THEN, RIGHT? YEAH, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T READ INTO THAT, BUT LIKE I WILL, BUT EVEN THOUGH IT APPROVES, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, I MEAN, IF IT SATISFIES THE CALCULATION, IF IT DEFLECT MORE THAN NORMAL, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT GONNA DEFLECT AND KIND OF LIKE CROWN A LITTLE BIT.

SO, AND, AND I'VE GOT A QUESTION JUST TO ENSURE THE, THE, THE BUILDING DOES NOT GO PAST THE MINIMUM SETBACK, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

I KNOW IT SHOWS IT ON, ON THE DRAWING.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT DOES NOT, IF I MAY, I, AND I, I MAY HAVE LOST TRACK OF WHAT, OF OF THE CONVERSATION HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BEING SHOWN IN THE DIAGRAMS. IS THAT NO, WE'RE, WE'RE FINISHING IT AS THE, AS IT WAS STARTED, WE'RE JUST TAKING OVER AND FINISHING THE CURRENT ASBUILT STRUCTURE.

THAT'S, WE PUT, WE, WE HAD OUR SURVEYORS PUT IT ON THE SITE PLAN.

WE HAD OUR READY FOR THIS BZA MEETING AND THEN WE'LL TAKE OVER ONCE WE'RE APPROVED TO TAKE OVER.

BUT, BUT, BUT I HEARD TALK ABOUT AN EXTRA PILLAR HERE AND THERE IF IT NEEDS TO, BUT IT WOULD BE INSIDE THAT 12 BY 29 STRUCTURE ONLY IF IT, LIKE, CAN YOU PULL THAT FIRST PICTURE BACK UP RIGHT THERE? LIKE ONLY IN THE CENTER SPAN IF IT, IF WE FEEL LIKE THE BEAM CALCULATION ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO HOLD THAT BEAM.

OH YEAH.

I UNDER I UNDERSTAND THAT AND, AND, AND APPROVE OF THE, THE DUE DILIGENCE YOU'RE DOING THERE.

BUT IF YOU DO THAT, THEN IN EFFECT WE'RE APPROVING SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT EVENTUALLY GOES IN AND, AND I'M, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S A BAD OR GOOD THING.

IT'S JUST, LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING.

SO YOU MENTIONED THAT IF THIS GETS APPROVED, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO GET A, A PERMIT TO FINISH IT.

OH YEAH.

CORRECT.

SO THEY HAVE ONE IN ALREADY IN HOUSE, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE TO APPROVE IT FIRST.

CORRECT.

AND THEN THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO FINISH UP THAT PERMIT AND THEN MOST LIKELY SINCE ALREADY BUILT, OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL REQUIRE THE, UM, AN INSPECTION, THIRD PARTY INSPECTIONS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD ADDRESS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

IF, IF THE INSPECTION, IF THE THIRD PARTY INSPECTION DEEMS THAT IT NEEDS ANOTHER POST IN THE MIDDLE FOR STRUCTURE TO, TO MAINTAIN STRUCTURALLY, THEN THEY CAN DO THAT IF THAT INSPECTION YIELDS THAT OUTCOME.

AND, AND, AND I'M NOT IN ANY WAY OPPOSED TO THAT PROCESS, IT'S JUST, EVEN THOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE BETTER, HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE.

BUT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO PROVE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S GONNA, THAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW IS GONNA END OR COULD VERY WELL END UP DIFFERENTLY.

AND I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH APPROVING S SOMETHING ON A THIRD PARTY SAYING IT'LL BE BETTER THAN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY.

I I, I JUST, IT JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE THIRD PARTY IS HIRED BY THE CITY OF BRENTWOOD.

IT'S AN ENGINEERING FIRM.

SO, WELL, WELL I'LL JUST, ERIC, I GOT YOU.

OKAY.

THE ONLY THING THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IS ADD A CENTER POST WHICH NOBODY WANTS.

'CAUSE AESTHETICALLY IT BLOCKS YOUR VIEW.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHY THEY OPENED IT UP THE FIRST PLACE.

IF THEY ADD THAT CENTER POST, IT'S ACTUALLY STRONGER THAN IT IS NOW.

SO AESTHETICALLY IT'S JUST ADDING A POST IN THE MIDDLE.

THAT'S IT.

COULD WE APPROVE? AND, AND ODDS ARE WE'RE NOT DOING IT.

I JUST WANNA VERIFY THAT.

IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, OPEN BOOK HERE, I DON'T WANNA VERIFY WE DON'T NEED IT.

I THINK IT'S BEING SUGGESTED HERE THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT AND I DIDN'T MEAN THAT, THAT EITHER, ERIC.

YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP CLARIFY.

THE INSPECTION WAS HIRED BY THE CITY FOR THAT ACTUALLY.

I'M SORRY.

THE, THE INSPECTION WOULD BE HIRED BY THE APPLICANT, CORRECT.

RIGHT.

IT'S REQUIRED OF THE CITY.

WE REQUIRE HIM TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE OUR INSPECTORS WERE NOT ABLE TO INSPECT THE FOOTINGS AND THINGS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT RIGHT.

PRIOR TO THE PERMIT.

RIGHT.

BEING ISSUED.

BUT, BUT THE BZA IS HERE TO APPROVE COMPLETED PLANS, NOT PLANS THAT ARE GONNA CHANGE IF IT'S GONNA CHANGE.

AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO COME BACK.

AND, AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

I MEAN, SOMETIMES DON'T WE APPROVE THINGS WITH A, A CAVEAT, YOU KNOW, ON WHETHER IT'S LANDSCAPING OR CERTAIN THINGS.

COULD WE APPROVE IT OR AT LEAST PUT IT UP? WELL, WE

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DO HAVE A CONDITION APPROVAL THAT STATES ANY CHANGES TO THE BUILDING OR SITE PLAN WILL REQUIRE STAFF REVIEW AND RE-APPROVAL FROM THE BZA.

SO IF THAT OKAY, PERFECT, PERFECT.

DOES HAPPEN, THEN WE CAN BRING THEM BACK.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE APPROVING THE LOCATION AND GENERAL APPEARANCE YEAH.

AND SIZE.

I'M, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT IN SIZE AND, AND I LOVED ALLISON'S WORDS.

YEAH.

I MEAN THAT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO APPROVE THINGS THAT ARE IN STONE.

HOW IS THE, UM, SORRY, HOW IS THE FIREPLACE ATTACHING OR IS IT ATTACHING TO THE IT WILL NOT ATTACH, IT'S GONNA BE MASONRY AND FREESTANDING.

IT'LL BE RIGHT AGAINST IT, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE ATTACHED TO THE WOOD STRUCTURE.

IT'S BY, SO IF YOU HAVE TO , IF THOSE BOOMS BEAMS DON'T APPROVE, YOU'VE GOTTA, YOU DON'T HAVE A FIREPLACE 'CAUSE IT'S IN THE CENTER OF THE BACK BACKSIDE.

IT'S COMPLETELY BEHIND THE L VLS AND STUFF.

RIGHT.

BUT YOU'D NEED A, YOU COULDN'T PUT WOOD POST IN THE BACK AS WELL.

YEAH, RIGHT, RIGHT.

IF THE, IF THE FRONT DOESN'T, RIGHT.

FRONT DOESN'T, FOR SURE.

THE FRONT BEAM DOESN'T MEET THE CAL IN THE BACK BEAM, DOESN'T IT? BUT RIGHT.

YOU CAN SPLIT THIS THE WAY IT'S DRAWN DIFFERE, THE WAY IT BEEN, A THIRD OR THIRD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THE, THE WAY IT'S DRAWN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET TO THEIR HAND DRAWN PICTURES.

IT, IT COMES THROUGH THE CEILING.

IT COMES THROUGH THE ROOF.

IT LOOKS WELL IT GOES THROUGH THE OVERHANG.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S, SO IT'S ATTACHED A LITTLE BIT.

I MEAN YEAH, THE SOFFITS AROUND IT.

OKAY.

BUT IT'S NOT HOLDING THE STRUCTURE OF THAT LVL.

OKAY.

I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, CURRENT COLOR.

IS THAT THE FINAL COLOR? IS IT GONNA BE CLOSER TO WHAT THE BUILDING IS? IT WILL.

I HAVE TROUBLE SEEING THAT.

THOSE ARE SIMILAR.

I DON'T THINK THAT WAS FINAL.

IT'LL MATCH THE HOUSE'S SOFFIT AND TRIM COLOR, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE FINAL IS.

YEAH.

WHATEVER THEY ACTUALLY HAVE RIGHT NOW, IT'LL MATCH THAT COLOR AND SO WILL THE GUTTERS.

SO IT'LL, IT'LL MIRROR THE HOUSE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, IS THE CLIENT YEAH.

AS, AS, AS, OH YEAH.

AS THE MOTION IS BEING SUMMARIZED.

WELL, A AS IT'S STATED HERE, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE IT AS SUBMITTED.

AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE APPROVING.

WE'RE APPROVING IT TO COME BACK TO THE BCA AFTER THE MA.

WE HAVE THAT CONDITION THAT STATES IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES, BUT WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU ARE APPROVING IT AS IT IS BEING PUT IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY WITH THE DRAWINGS AND THE STAFF REPORT.

IF THE LOCATION, SIZE, OR GENERAL APPEARANCE CHANGED, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BZA, CORRECT? YES.

AND I WOULD'VE TO REAPPLY.

RIGHT.

OH, OKAY.

I I GET THE LOGIC NOW.

SO, SO WE, WE CAN, WE CAN WITH, WITH SURETY THAT WE'RE NOT APPROVING SOMETHING THAT, THAT ISN'T GONNA GO IN .

CORRECT.

WE, WE, WE CAN HAVE STAFF MEDIATE THAT PROCESS TO BRING, TO BRING IT BACK IF THERE'S CHANGE DURING INSPECTIONS THAT THERE'S POTENTIALLY SOME POSTS THAT NEED TO BE RELOCATED OR THE FIREPLACE NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF OR WHATEVER.

GOTCHA.

UM, THAT WILL CHANGE THE, THE APPEARANCE OF IT, WHICH WILL COME BACK.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

SO WHEN I FIND OUT THOSE COW, 'CAUSE IF I KNOW WE CAN START THAT PROCESS AGAIN, LIKE YEAH, BUT WE CAN'T GET TO THAT POINT WITHOUT THIS, WITHOUT TONIGHT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND, AND, AND AGAIN, PLEASE, I EMPHASIZE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS GREAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW YOU'RE DOING, DOING DUE DILIGENCE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE HERE, WHICH IS OUR JOB, RIGHT? CORRECT.

GET TO SEE THAT BEFORE IT'S FINALIZED.

YEP.

ALLISON, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE FROM NEIGHBORS REGARDING THIS PROJECT? I HAVE NOT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT.

ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY,

[2. BZA2310-001 Accessory Structure Request - Meadow Lake Subdivision, Section 6, Lot 26, 5313 Meadow Lake Road, Zoning R-2 - Applicant: Hidden Valley Homes]

SECOND ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS BZA 2 3 1 0 0 0 1 ACCESSORY STRUCTURE REQUEST.

MEADOW LAKE SUBDIVISION SECTION SIX LOT 26 AT 5 3 1 3 MEADOW LAKE ROAD ZONING R TWO AND APPLICANT IS HIDDEN VALLEY HOMES.

ALLISON HIDDEN VALLEY HOMES REQUEST APPROVAL OF A 750 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED STRUCTURE TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE REAR BUILDABLE AREA OF THE LOT.

THE STRUCTURE WILL BE CONSTRUCTED OF FIVE CEMENT SIDING AND SEWN ACTS SENSE THAT MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSE.

IT'LL HAVE A SHINGLE ROOF AND BE APPROXIMATELY 18 FEET TALL.

THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY 23 FEET TALL.

THERE ARE FOUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND STAFF

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RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AS WE FIND THAT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE, INCLUDING HAVING COMPATIBLE MATERIALS AND ROOF PITCHES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU'LL INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YES SIR.

GOOD EVENING.

AND ARE YOU WITH HIDDEN VALLEY HOMES? YES SIR, I AM.

GEORGE LER, CO OF HIDDEN VALLEY HOMES.

GEORGE, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED SO FAR? NO, I'VE TALKED IT THROUGH WITH ALLISON AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M GLAD TO ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS.

BUT ON BEHALF OF MR. AVELOS, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD PLAN AND WE'LL BLEND WELL WITH THE EXISTING HOME STRUCTURE.

OKAY.

ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I JUST, UM, ON THAT PREVIOUS PICTURE THAT WE JUST HAD UP, IT WAS YES MA'AM.

UM, IT WAS THE SCHEMATIC WITH, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE, UM, THAT HAD THE SETBACKS AND THE SITE PLAN.

UM, YEAH, THAT ONE I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT THAT PUB PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT IN THE BACK IS THERE.

WE'RE DEFINITELY GOOD AS FAR AS ENOUGH ROOM.

ALLISON, AS FAR AS WE'VE HAD THE SITE SURVEYED.

I KNOW THE QUESTION WAS HER FOR HER, BUT WE HAD THE SITE SURVEYED AND THE ENGINEER OVERLAID THAT SITE SURVEY.

OKAY.

FACTORING IN THE PUBLIC UTILITY DRAINAGE EASEMENT AS WELL AS THE SETBACKS AT THE REAR.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

SO, UH, THE ELEVATIONS, UH, SHOW IT'S PREDOMINANTLY THE HARDY PLANK, THE CEMENT SIDING.

YES, SIR.

I'D AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK IT, IT'S ABOUT A THIRD VERSUS A THIRD OF STONE AND APPROXIMATELY TWO THIRDS WITH THE HARDY.

GOTCHA.

AND, AND HOW IS THAT, UH, COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT BUILDING? SO IF YOU GO TO THE PICTURE OF THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE HOME, UH, WE'D SAY IT'S VERY CONSISTENT.

THE EXTERIOR COLOR SCHEME WILL BE THE SAME.

UH, WITH THE SMALL EXCEPTION, THE EXISTING HOME, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, HAS WHAT'S CALLED A EPAY, UH, WOOD SIDING.

AND THAT IS VERY MUCH PRONE TO SUNLIGHT, DETERIORATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE CLIENT HAS OPTED TO DO A CEMENTITIOUS SIDING, BUT AS WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH ALLISON PREVIOUSLY, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO MATCH THAT, UM, WITH A PAINT AND OR STAIN AS BEST AS POSSIBLE TO THE EXISTING EPAY.

SO MIMICKING THAT OVERHANG THAT WOULD WOULD OVER YES SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IN APPEARANCE? YES SIR.

THAT'S JUST, I'VE BEEN PARTICULARLY A HIGHER MAINTENANCE, UH, TYPE OF PRODUCT, UH, FOR THE CLIENT.

AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WITH THE SUN EXPOSURE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, HE OPTED TO DO MORE OF A CEMENTITIOUS PRODUCT.

BUT AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT RESEMBLES VERY CLOSELY, UH, THE EXISTING HOME.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GEORGE? THANK YOU GEORGE.

CERTAINLY.

IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

LISA, IF ANYONE'S HERE? YEAH, I'M SORRY.

DO YOU WANNA ASK IF ANYBODY'S HERE? SORRY.

OH, CORRESPONDENCE OR WAS THERE ANY CORRESPONDENCE RELATED TO NO CORRESPONDENCE.

NO CORRESPONDENCE.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE SPEAKING ABOUT IT? YEAH.

YEAH.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK? OKAY, IS THERE, IS THERE A MOTION? SO IS THERE, WILL YOU REMAKE YOUR MOTION? OH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK YOU TODD.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE I HAVE THE NEXT ONE AS WELL.

OH YEAH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, .

ALRIGHT.

BAT AND CLEAN UP.

UH, I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU DON'T THE THIRD ITEM, THAT'S GOOD, BUT YOU'RE STUCK.

YEAH.

THE THIRD

[3. BZA2310-002 Accessory Structure Request - 1215 Franklin Road, Zoning AR - Applicant: Hidden Valley Homes]

ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS BZA 2 3 1 0 DASH 0 0 2 ACCESSORY STRUCTURE REQUEST 1215 FRANKLIN ROAD ZONING AR UH, THE APPLICANT IS HIDDEN VALLEY HOMES.

ALLISON HIDDEN VALLEY HOMES REQUEST APPROVAL OF A 1,682 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED STRUCTURE TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE REAR BUILDABLE AREA OF THE LOT.

THE STRUCTURAL WILL BE CONSTRUCTED OF CEDAR SIDING, STUCCO AND BRICK ACCENTS THAT MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSE.

IT WILL HAVE A SHINGLE ROOF AND BE APPROXIMATELY 25 FEET TALL.

THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY 30 FEET TALL.

THERE'S AN EXISTING POOL HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS STRUCTURE SEMI-DETACHED AND IS NOT CONSIDERED A DETACHED STRUCTURE AND IS NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST.

SECTION 78 DASH 22 4 STATES THAT ON ACCEPT ON PARCELS OF THREE OR MORE ACRES IN SIZE, NO ACCESSORY BUILDING SHALL EXCEED 750 SQUARE FEET OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA

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IN ANY OTHER RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

THIS PROPERTY IS MORE THAN FOUR ACRES IN SIZE.

SECTION 78 DASH 22 5 STATES.

NO ACCESSORY BUILDING SHALL EXCEED THE LESSER OF THE HEIGHT OF 20 FEET.

OH MY GOSH.

25 FEET TALL OR THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE.

THE TOP OF THE CUPOLA FOR THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS 20 FEET, 25 FEET TALL, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED HEIGHT AND IS LESS THAN THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE.

SECTION 10 DASH FOUR C STATES THAT STRUCTURES OR ENCLOSURES CONSTRUCTED AFTER OCTOBER 26TH, 1992 FOR THE HOUSING OR SHELTERING OF ANIMALS, SHALL BE LOCATED A MINIMUM OF 15 FEET FROM ALL DWELLINGS OTHER THAN THAT OF THE CUSTODIAN.

THE PRIMARY FUNCTION OF THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF STORAGE AND MAINTENANCE OF SMALL DOMESTICATED LIVESTOCK.

THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 10 DASH FOUR.

THERE ARE FIVE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, WHICH ONE OF THEM BEING THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, INCLUDING ROOF OVERHANGS, MUST BE PLACED WITHIN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, SUBJECT, ALL BUILDING CODES AND STAFF NOTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU ALLISON.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS? I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT, SHE'S VERY THOROUGH AND IT SUMS IT UP.

OKAY.

AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE EXISTING HOME, THE LOCATION, THAT'S NOT THE, THAT'S THE YEP, THAT'S THE PRIOR, THAT'S NOT THE SAME INFORMATION.

WE HAVE WHATEVER'S ON THE STREET.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE PRIOR ONE.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PRIOR UHOH ONE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AT MEADOW LAKE.

HERE'S, UM, THE EXISTING REAR STRUCTURE THERE.

THERE WE GO.

THERE WE GO.

YEP, THAT'S IT.

WE JUST GOT THE WRONG SLIDE.

UM, OKAY.

UM, BOARD MEMBERS, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, UH, IT'S OKAY.

, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHICH DIRECTION TO AIM IT, SO SURE.

AIM IN THE MIDDLE.

A FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION ON THE MAIN STRUCTURE IS 70 66 0.6 WITH 30 FEET HEIGHT, WHICH WOULD MAKE 7 96 0.6.

THE TOP OF THAT STRUCTURE OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

AND THEN THIS, THE BARN, PROPOSED BARN, 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW IT'S LISTED HERE.

FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION OF 7 76 0.5.

SO 10 FEET HIGHER, ADD THE 25 FEET AND YOU'RE AT 8 0 1.

SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY A COUPLE FEET TALLER THAN THE MAIN HOUSE WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT ELEVATION.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT FROM, IF THERE'S ANY, UM, COMMENTS.

WELL, IT'S, AS FAR AS STAFF IS CONCERNED, IN THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, THE MEASUREMENT IS FROM LOWEST ADJACENT GRADE OF EACH STRUCTURE.

SO FROM THE LOWEST ADJACENT GRADE OF THE BARN, THEY HAVE TO BE, OR THIS STRUCTURE 25 FEET OR SHORTER THAN THE HOUSE.

RIGHT? YEAH.

25 FOOT MAX OR THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE WHICHEVER'S LESS.

SO THE HOUSE IS MEASURED FROM ITS LOWEST ADJACENT ELEVATION.

AND THEN THIS BARN WILL BE MEASURED FROM ITS LOWEST ADJACENT ELEVATION.

IT MEETS CODE.

UNDERSTOOD.

RIGHT.

AESTHETICALLY, I UNDERSTAND, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN GRADE.

SO I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I I WE GOT THAT IN THE RECORD OF STATING THAT IT, IT DOES MEET THE CODE.

IT DOES.

AND THAT IT'S REGARDING THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE AND NOT NECESSARILY THE FINISHED ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE VERSUS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

THAT'S CORRECT, YES.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? THAT'S ALL I ASK.

WHAT, WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE USED FOR? UH, SO OUR CLIENTS MAY, UH, HAVE SOME SMALLER LIVESTOCK TYPE ANIMALS, UH, ON THE PROPERTY AS PERMITTED BY ZONING.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'VE MENTIONED PERHAPS, UH, HAVING SMALL, UM, THEY'RE BASICALLY LIKE A MINIATURE SCOTTISH HIGHLAND CATTLE.

UH, SO THINK ABOUT THE SIZE OF A LARGE ST.

BERNARD OR SHETLAND PONY ISH.

OKAY.

UH, SO I'M NO BIOLOGIST, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS IT RELATES TO THE, UH, YOU KNOW, SIZE.

THEY'RE, I WOULD DEEM THEM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING MORE AS PETS AS OPPOSED TO LIVESTOCK.

BUT THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO AN INTERPRETATION BY OTHERS AS WELL.

ANY, ANYONE ELSE? HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING, UH, THIS PLAN? I HAVE NOT.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YES.

[00:25:05]

ALWAYS HAVE TO DO THAT.

HI, UH, MY NAME'S CHRIS BORMAN.

UH, I AM THE RESIDENT THAT LIVES NEXT DOOR AT 1211.

UM, SO JUST WAS CURIOUS LIKE HOW MANY, ARE WE TALKING LIKE A ZOO OR, THAT'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS FOUR OR FIVE.

FOUR OR FIVE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO QUITE SMALL, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER ZONING, COUNTY REGULATOR OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT EXIST AS IT, YOU REALLY GOTTA SPEAK INTO THE MIC.

SORRY.

SORRY CHRIS.

UM, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE.

YOU KNOW, MY PRESENT UNDERSTANDING IS FOUR OR FIVE OF THESE SMALLER MINIATURE TYPE CATTLE AND THAT'S THE EXTENT OF OUR UNDERSTANDING.

LET ME ASK TODD A QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION ON HOW MANY, UH, UH, THE, AS NOT THE CITY, THE CITY DOES NOT REGULATE THAT.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT THE NUMBER WOULD BE REGULATED BY THE COUNTY WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

OKAY.

UM, CITY OF BRENTWOOD SAYS YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE THREE ACRES IN ORDER TO HAVE LIVESTOCK.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE REQUIREMENT THAT ALLISON MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE SUMMARY FOR A DETACHED STRUCTURE THAT HOUSES ANIMALS, IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST 150 FEET AWAY FROM ANY SURROUNDING RESIDENCE OTHER THAN THIS RESIDENCE.

RIGHT.

SO, AND THEY MEET THAT REQUIREMENT AS WELL.

OKAY.

BUT THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS WOULD BE REGULATED BY THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

I'LL JUST SAY THIS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, THERE'S FIVE STALLS AND A FIVE STALLS WITH DOORS, SIX STALLS AND A WASH STALL.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YOU CAN FIT IN ONE STALL, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWS IN THE PLAN RIGHT THERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO CLARIFY, YOU SAID 1211, COULD YOU JUST STATE THE STREET THAT YOU'RE OH, FRANKLIN ROAD.

I'M SORRY.

1211 FRANKLIN ROAD.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I, YEAH, I JUST, I I, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN, AN ISSUE WITH, WITH THE STRUCTURE.

I JUST, I JUST, I DON'T WANT LIKE THE SMELL THAT CAN COME ALONG WITH, UM, ANIMALS AND DROPPINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I, I, THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

UNDERSTOOD.

UM, BUT I, SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ON RECORD.

SURE.

UM, AM AM I, ARE WE OPPOSED TO IT? NO.

UM, DO WE WANT THAT ON RECORD THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT, IT DOESN'T GET DIRTY AND KIND OF UNATTRACTIVE OR SMELLY IS UNDERSTOOD.

IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE JUST WANT TO BE MADE KNOWN.

UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO YOU, GO AHEAD.

I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

NOT, NOT THAT THIS IS, IS ANYWAY IN OUR JURISDICTION, BUT HOW, HOW DOES THAT GO TO WILLIAMSON COUNTY? I, I CAN'T, I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT.

I, I DON'T DUNNO.

I MEAN, THERE WOULD BE A COMPLAINT FILED WITH THE COUNTY.

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHICH DEPARTMENT OF THE COUNTY WOULD HANDLE THIS.

OH, OKAY.

IT'S PROBABLY NOT ANIMAL CONTROL.

I FEEL LIKE THEY WOULD NEED APPROVAL THOUGH, LIKE A PERMIT OR SOMETHING? I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK THEY, I THINK IT'S COMPLAINT BASED.

IT'S COMPLAINT BASED.

YOU REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY AND FIGURE OUT, I THINK IT'S A, A CALCULATION BASED ON ACREAGE.

SO LIKE, AND THE MINIATURE ANIMALS MAY LIKE, I SWEAR I THINK IT USED TO BE LIKE YOU NEEDED LIKE, UH, AN ACRE AND A HALF OR SOMETHING FOR EACH HORSE, UH, FOR MINIATURE ANIMALS.

I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY.

LIKE I SAY, IT'S NOT A FAIR, IT'S NOT A, BUT YEAH, IT'S, ITS NOT OUR BUT THERE IS AN ESCAPE HATCH FOR RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO APPROACH THE, THE COUNTY TO, TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

I MEAN THEY COULD CALL THE COUNTY AND ASK OR COMPLAIN OR ASK THEM TO INQUIRE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE KNOW THE DISTANCE? I KNOW IT'S AT LEAST 150 FEET.

DO WE KNOW THE ACTUAL DISTANCE? THIS IS FROM ANOTHER ADJACENT HOME.

I DON'T, IT'S AT LEAST 200.

UH, JUST DOING CALCULATIONS LIKE ON GOOGLE EARTH.

THAT, THAT I DID FROM THE 5,008 LONG STREET AND 5,006.

5,010.

IT WAS FROM THE BACK OF THOSE STRUCTURES.

IT WAS AT LEAST 150 FEET TO THEIR BOUNDARY LINE.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT 50 FEET OF SETBACK ON, ON THIS PROPERTY.

YEAH.

AND IT'S TO THE HOUSE AND NOT THE PROPERTY LINE.

THE LOT THAT MEASUREMENT IS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL GIVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

THANK YOU.

TODD.

IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, SAY AYE.

AYE.

[00:30:01]

ALL OPPOSED? THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[1. Approval of the 2024 Schedule of Meetings for the Board of Zoning Appeals]

OKAY, ALLISON, I THINK YOU HAVE ONE MORE ITEM REGARDING THE, UH, BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS SCHEDULE.

YES.

UM, BEFORE YOU IS THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE, UM, WE DID MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING TO NOT BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE PRESIDENT'S DAY HOLIDAY.

SO, UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ALLISON? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE UPDATED BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MEETING SCHEDULE AS PRESENTED ON THE SCREEN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL? SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE WANNA MENTION ANYTHING? ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US? UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE ITEM FOR DECEMBER.

OKAY.

SO WE WILL BE HAVING MEETING.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I SO MOVE.

AND A SECOND.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING, SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.