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YEAH.[ Brentwood Planning Commission Briefing November 2, 2023 Click on Download PDF Packet above to view Briefing Agenda This informational meeting is an opportunity for the Planning Commission to discuss the upcoming agenda, to ask questions of staff and applicants, and to request additional information prior to the formal Monday meeting.]
NEED, I'M GONNA HAVE A QUORUM ISSUE.WHAT DO WE NEED? WE NEED SIX FOR QUORUM.
NEED SIX? YEAH, WE JUST MONDAY.
GOT THE BIG DINNER BEFORE RICK AND STACY ARE NOT, THERE'S RICK, BUT HE'S NOT.
AND THEN RYAN, STACY, YOU INVITED TO, WE DIDN'T GET INVITED TO.
SO WE HAVE FOUR THAT WILL NOT BE HERE MONDAY NIGHT.
BUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE SIX, WE'RE GOOD.
NOT THEN Y'ALL PUT SOME MASKS ON.
SO FOR THE 10 MINUTES WE HAVE TO GET THIS THING DONE.
THE PROB THE QUESTION IS GONNA BE JANUARY 2ND.
YEAH, WE'LL WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT THE END.
WE HAVE THE SCHEDULE ON THE AGENDA, SO WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AT YET.
UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE A FEW NEW PEOPLE.
UH, CAROLINE STEWART'S A NEW PLANNER IN PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
CAROLINE, CAROLINE, A YA GRADUATE AND VA GRADUATE.
UM, SO SHE'S, UH, KNOWS A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF A BRETT WOOD AND THEN JASON DEAL JUST STARTED THIS WEEK.
YOU REMEMBER ZANE? HE HIS LAST DAY.
AND, UM, SO JASON IS GONNA BE STARTING HERE IN ENGINEERING, OR IS STARTED IN ENGINEERING.
THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SCHEDULE NEXT YEAR'S SCHEDULE AT THE END.
I HEARD THERE MIGHT BE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE JANUARY MEETING, WHETHER WE HAVE A QUORUM.
SO LET'S, MAYBE WE CAN KIND OF FIGURE THAT OUT BEFORE MONDAY NIGHT.
IF THERE'S, UH, IT'S, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A QUORUM FOR ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS.
WE CAN PICK A DIFFERENT DAY TO PUT ON THE SCHEDULE.
UM, AND THEN I WANTED TO REMIND YOU ALL, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, YOU GOT AN EMAIL, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN EMAIL ON YOUR BRENTWOOD ACCOUNT FROM THE, THE NO BEFORE, UH, TRAINING THAT'S REQUIRED THAT YOU, YOU DO THAT.
SO IF I, IF YOU DON'T GET THAT DONE BY THE END OF NOVEMBER, I THINK IT'S NOVEMBER 27TH, I'LL START CALLING AND HARASSING JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU GET IT DONE BECAUSE I STARTED GETTING EMAILS IF YOU ALL DON'T DO IT AND THE LETTER, SO IT'S THE KEEP YOUR CITY ACCOUNT SAFE? NO, BEFORE, OH, DID CYBER SECURITY TRAINING.
IT'S COME OUT IN THE PAST MONTH OR SO.
HE DID THAT ALREADY AS SOON AS HE GOT IT.
UM, YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM ME ABOUT A TRAINING THAT TAPS HOSTING AGAIN THIS YEAR FOR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IN BCA.
YOU CAN ATTEND LIVE OR UH, SIGN UP AND WATCH THE RECORDING.
BUT THAT'LL COUNT FOR YOUR FOUR HOURS IF YOU WEREN'T ON THE BUS TOUR OR IF YOU WANNA STILL DO IT.
IT'S A REALLY GOOD AGENDA THIS YEAR WITH SOME GOOD SPEAKERS.
DO WE NEED TO GET THE LINK FROM YOU OR CAN YOU JUST SEND IT TO ALL OF US OR CAN WE, I CAN RESEND IT AFTER THE, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING TO REGISTER TO GET YEAH, IT IS JUST A, SINCE IT'S A ZOOM, UM, YOU JUST CLICK ON THE LINK AND YOU JUST PUT IN YOUR NAME AND EMAIL ADDRESS.
USE THE BRENTWOOD EMAIL ADDRESS.
YOU CAN USE YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS IF YOU CAN.
IT'S JUST A WATCHING IT ON A COMPUTER.
SO IT JUST GETS YOU A LINK TO THE MEETING AND THEN IF YOU WATCH IT, YOU CAN SEND US AN EMAIL AND SAY, HEY, I WATCHED IT AND WE'LL MARK IT DOWN FOR YOUR TRAINING.
WE WATCH IT ON JANUARY 1ST ACCOUNT NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'LL GET STARTED HERE WITH THE FIRST ITEM, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.
THIS IS A REVIVED HILLSIDE PROTECTION SITE PLAN IN THE TERRA MOORE SUBDIVISION LOT.
UH, SMITH BUILDING GROUP REQUESTS APPROVAL OF A REVISED HILLSIDE PROTECTION SITE PLAN FOR LOT 1 96, UH, OF THE TERRA MOORE SUBDIVISION.
THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF AN ATTACHED 461 SQUARE FOOT COVERED PAVILION AND A 241 SQUARE FOOT MUDROOM ADDITION.
THERE ARE TWO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UH, THE FIRST CONDITION PRIOR TO THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
ADDITIONAL GRADING MAY BE REQUIRED FOR THE, THE SIDE YARD SWALE.
UM, CONSTRUCTION SHALL FOLLOW ALL RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PROVIDED GEOTECHNICAL REPORT.
THEY'RE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE SORT OF ADDING THIS PART ON TO THE HOUSE AND THEY'RE ADDING THIS PAVILION.
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SO IT'S ALL, OKAY, IT'S ATTACHED.SO THAT'S ON CONSENT AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE A FIRE SPRINKLER IN THAT NEW PART ALSO.
IS THAT RIGHT? YES, IN THE, THE MUD ROOM.
STAFF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THAT ITEM TWO BPC 2310 DASH OH OH ONE.
THIS IS A PARKING STUDY, UH, SOUTHERN SUTHERLAND PLACE IN MARYLAND FARMS. 200 WINTER CIRCLE ZONING IS C ONE.
UM, GOOD WORKS UNLIMITED REQUESTS APPROVAL OF A PARKING STUDY FOR A NEW BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CENTER PROPOSED AT 200 WINTER CIRCLE SOUTH.
UH, ARBOR WELLNESS IS A RESIDENTIAL MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER PROVIDING 24 HOUR CARE FOR PATIENTS.
SECTION 78 4 54 BRENTWOOD MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES MINIMUM PARKING FOR SPECIFIC USES.
WHEN USES ARE UNIQUE OR NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED IN THE CODE, THE APPLICANT CAN PREPARE A PARKING STUDY FOR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A PARKING STUDY SHOWING TYPICAL PARKING FOR SIMILAR USES.
IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THIS IS A SIMILAR USE TO A NURSING HOME.
THE CITY'S PARKING CONSULTANT, GREG JUDY, WITH NEIL SCHAEFER, REVIEWED AND AGREED WITH THEIR STUDY SHOWING 20, REQUIRING 27 PARKING SPACES TOTAL.
BUT THE SITE ACTUALLY HAS 33 PARKING SPACES.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS WITHIN WHAT THE PARKING STUDY CALLED FOR.
THERE'S ONE CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UM, FURTHER REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 50 DASH 29 B OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO PAY FOR THE NEIL SCHAFER PARKING STUDY REVIEW.
THE AMOUNT SHALL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY STAFF BEFORE ANY PERMITS, UH, WILL BE ISSUED FOR THE PROJECT AND STAFF REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE TO APPROVE THE PARKING STUDY SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STAFF REPORT.
SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, UH, THEY, THEY CAME TO US AND SAID THEY WANTED TO DO THIS USE OF THE USE THAT WE CLASSIFIED IT AS, UH, IN THE CODE WAS CONVALESCENT HOME, WHICH IN THE CODE DOES NOT HAVE A, A PARKING STANDARD.
SO BECAUSE WE CLASSIFIED IT AS THAT USE, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW AND APPROVE A PARKING STUDY FOR, UH, A PARKING USE THAT'S NOT IN OUR CODE.
SO CONVALESCENT HOME ISN'T IN THE CODE, BUT DURING THAT PROCESS, THEY DETERMINE THAT IT WAS THE, BASICALLY THE SAME AS A NURSING HOME, WHICH THE SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY.
AND, UM, GREG JUDY AGREED WITH THAT.
AND SO IF THIS, UH, GETS APPROVED, THEN THEIR NEXT STEP, ASSUMING THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE EXTERIOR, UM, THEIR NEXT STEP WOULD JUST TO BE A, TO APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT.
IF THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE EXTERIOR, YOU'LL SEE THIS AGAIN, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE FACILITY, THE, OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THAT? I CAN'T.
EXISTING BUILDING THE PARKING, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BEDS AND NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.
NOT NECESSARILY SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THERE'S NO, NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
WHAT WE DO, DO WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH THIS IS? UM, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT IT COULD BE.
IT COULD BE SUBSTANCE ABUSE RECOVERY, IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
UM, MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
YEAH, IT'S, UH, RESIDENTIAL MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT, HEALTH AND WELLNESS SERVICES.
UM, IT'S, UH, PATIENTS WILL RESIDE ON SITE SUPERVISED BY 24 HOUR MEDICAL AND OPERATIONAL STAFF.
MY GUESS IS IT'S NOT, UM, SUBSTANCE ABUSE BECAUSE THEY, THEY LABELED THEMSELVES DIFFERENTLY LIKE THE RIGHT, THE RECOVERY ONE.
UH, I WAS ONE, SORRY, ONE MORE QUESTION.
WHAT WAS THE NUMBER OF BEDS? WAS IT 28? UM, 32.
ALLISON, CAN YOU ZOOM INTO THAT TABLE AGAIN PLEASE? 40, 40 MINUTES.
SO YEAH, IT SAYS FOR RESIDENTIAL FOR 32 RESIDENTIAL BEDS IS WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT IT'S BASED ON, RIGHT?
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MM-HMM.THE NUMBER OF BEDS AND EMPLOYEES ON MAXIMUM SHIFT.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE BASED THE PARKING ON, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR PARKING CONSULTANT REVIEWED.
ITEM THREE ON CONSENT BPC 2310 DASH OH OH TWO.
THIS IS A LIMITED DURATION EVENT.
SANTA'S TREES, THE HT HILL CENTER AT 2 89 FRANKLIN ROAD ZONING IS C TWO, UH, SANTA'S CHRISTMAS TREE REQUEST APPROVAL OF A TEMPORARY CHRISTMAS TREE SALES EVENT AT THE CORNER OF FRANKLIN ROAD AND WILLIAMSBURG ROAD.
UH, THE SALES WILL BE HELD FROM NOVEMBER 7TH UNTIL DECEMBER 29TH.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO REQUESTED THE PLACEMENT OF A TEMPORARY STORAGE CONTAINER AND OFFICE, UH, UNDER THE TENT.
UH, THIS IS THE SAME PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE ADJUSTED THE LOCATION OF THE, THE STORAGE SHIPPING CONTAINER SO THAT IT WASN'T AS VISIBLE.
SO THEY'RE GOING WITH THAT SAME PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR AND THERE ARE SIX CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
AND STAFF IS, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT YOU VOTE TO APPROVE THE LIMITED DURATION EVENTS.
TENT PERMITS INTERNAL, RIGHT? YES.
I MEAN, FIRE USUALLY LOOKS AT THOSE TENT PERMITS AND TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S IN, IN ORDER FOR, SO IT'S IN A SEPARATE TENT PERMIT.
AND I WAS LIKE, THEY'RE NOT COMING.
THEY'RE NOT TO WAIT A MONTH IT FOR US, BUT TAKE CARE OF THAT.
IT'S OPEN UNTIL DECEMBER 29TH SO THEY CAN CLEAN UP AND YEAH, IT'S AVAILABLE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.
I I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT REASON WHY IT GOES PAST CHRISTMAS, BUT I I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S CLEAN CLEANUP THREE YEARS USUALLY.
AND THEN ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, FIRST ITEM BPC 2310 DASH OH OH FIVE.
THIS IS A MASTER PLAN FOR THE BRENTWOOD UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
ZONING IS SI ONE REAGAN SMITH ASSOCIATES REQUEST APPROVAL OF A MASTER PLAN FOR THE BRENTWOOD UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MASTER PLAN IN 2019 PROPOSED A BUILDING EDITION OF 26,400 SQUARE FEET.
THAT WOULD TAKE UP A LARGE AREA OF THE EXISTING PARKING.
UM, IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THIS ADDITION, THE NEW PARKING AREA, A, A NEW PARKING AREA CONSISTING OF 184 SPACES WAS PROPOSED TO TO BE TO THE WEST AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREAM AND IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
THIS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MASTER PLAN HAS SINCE EXPIRED.
THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN PROPOSAL SHOWS A SMALLER ADDITION, UM, OR TWO SMALLER ADDITIONS TOTALING 10,629 SQUARE FEET.
WITH THESE SMALLER ADDITIONS, NO SUBSTANTIAL ADDITION OF PARKING IS NEEDED OR IS BEING PROPOSED.
ONE ACCESS TO WILLIAMSBURG ROAD IS BEING ELIMINATED.
10 ONSITE PARKING SPACES ARE PROPOSED.
THE FUTURE RESERVE PARKING OF 152 SPACES ON THE CLEMENT PROPERTY IS STILL INCLUDED IN THE MASTER PLAN AND IS INCORPORATED INTO THE PARKING CALCULATIONS, UH, AS WAS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS PARKING WILL NOT BE BUILT UNTIL THE CITY FINDS IT NECESSARY.
UH, THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN REDUCES THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE BY 15,771 SQUARE FEET AND REDUCES THE TOTAL ONSITE PARKING BY 178 PARKING SPACES.
THERE ARE FIVE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UM, AND WITH THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THESE SIDE BY SIDE THAT THE, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE, THE PREVIOUS PLAN AND THIS NEW MASTER PLAN.
AND, UM, SO YEAH, THE PREVIOUS PLAN, YOU HAD A LARGE ADDITION HERE TO THE END OF THE CHURCH.
AND THEY WERE GONNA CONSTRUCT ALL THIS NEW PARKING.
UM, THE, THE NEW PROPOSED MASTER PLAN HAS A SMALLER ADDITION ON THE END AND ONE RIGHT HERE, THERE.
THIS ONE ALSO ELIMINATES THIS ACCESS TO WILLIAMSBURG AND CONSTRUCTS SOME NEW PARKING HERE.
BUT THERE'S NO NEW PARKING PROPOSED HERE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS BACK IN THE DAY.
AND THEY ALSO PROPOSED TO STILL PROPOSE OR SHOW THE RESERVE PARKING DOWN HERE.
UM, SO THAT'S THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN.
SO THE, THE TOP PARKING THAT'S TO THE WEST OF THE BUILDING ARE EAST YEAH, WEST OF THE BUILDING.
THAT'S OUT OF THE MASTER PLAN.
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HERE, THE TOP LEFT AND IT'S NOT ON THE TOP.AND THEN JUST THE ONE FOR FUTURE WOULD BE THE, THE SOUTH LOT.
THEY WERE GONNA TAKE OUT A HOUSE PREVIOUSLY, WEREN'T THEY THAT WAY AND ALL THAT.
SO WHEN IT COMES UP FOR PARKING, WHEN WE NEED PARKING, WE CAN TALK TO TENSION PONDS AND THINGS THEN, BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT ON THAT CREEK AND THERE'S FLOOD PLAIN BEHIND IT.
YEAH, WE HAVE SOME AND ALL THOSE HOUSES, THERE'S SOME CONDITIONS THAT ADDRESS THAT.
I MEAN, THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF GETTING APPROVAL WHEN THEY COME.
IF THEY EVER DO THIS, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN.
THAT YOU WOULD REVIEW AND ELIMINATION OF THE ENTRANCE OR EXIT STILL LEAVES TO UNDER LEASE.
THERE'S WHAT, THREE NOW? YEAH, IT WOULD BE TWO REMAINING.
SO, WHICH, WHICH ONE IS GOING AWAY? THERE'S ONE RIGHT HERE.
LEMME SEE IF WE HAVE A, IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN, SO WE'LL GET TO IT.
UM, YEAH, THE NEXT CASE IS THE SITE PLAN, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE.
WAS THERE NOT A PLAYGROUND ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRESCHOOL THAT WAS PART OF THAT ORIGINAL PLAN? IT, IT'S THERE.
I THINK THEY NEEDED TO MOVE THE THEY TO MOVE IT BECAUSE IS THAT STAYING THEN WHERE IT WAS? YEAH.
YOU'RE NOT MOVING THE PLAYGROUND, ARE YOU? NO.
WE WERE MOVING IT IN THE 2019 PLAN.
RIGHT, BUT IT'S NOW STAYING WHERE IT'S AT FARTHER THE WEST OF THE PARK.
SO, SO THE SECOND ITEM ON REGULAR IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS BPC 2310 DASH OH OH SIX.
REVISED SITE PLAN FOR BRENTWOOD UNITED METHODIST.
UH, 3 0 9 FRANKLIN ROAD ZONING IS SI ONE REAGAN SMITH ASSOCIATES REQUEST APPROVAL OF A REVISED SITE PLAN FOR BRENTWOOD UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
THE PROPOSAL SHOWS TWO SMALLER ADDITIONS TOTALING 10,629 SQUARE FEET.
NO SUBSTANTIAL ADDITION OF ONSITE PARKING IS NEEDED OR IS BEING PROPOSED.
ONE ACCESS TO WILLIAMS PER ROAD IS BEING ELIMINATED.
UH, THE ADDITION OF 10 PARKING SPACES IS ALSO PROPOSED.
THE FUTURE RESERVE PARKING ON THE CLAIMANT PROPERTY IS STILL INCLUDED IN THE MASTER PLAN AND IS INCORPORATED INTO THE PARKING CALCULATIONS, UH, AS WAS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS PARKING WILL NOT BE BUILT IN UNTIL THE CITY FINDS IF NECESSARY.
THE ADDITIONS WILL BE BRICK VENEER WITH SHINGLE ROOFS TO MATCH THE EXISTING CHURCH.
AND THIS MIGHT MAY SHOW IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY, KIND OF WHERE THE ADDITIONS ARE AND WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE LOCATED.
YEAH, WELL, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE ADDITIONS, UM, THE DRIVEWAYS HERE, IT'S BEING REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH THIS.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL PARKING BEING PLACED HERE.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DRIVE BEING REMOVED, RIGHT, EVAN? CORRECT.
I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO MORE TO THE WEST.
SO THE ONE YOU SEE ON SCREEN AND THEN ONE OFF SCREEN WEST, IS THERE A LITTLE WALKWAY THERE CONNECTING YOU TO THE SIDEWALK? THERE'S AN EXISTING WALKWAY THAT WE ARE, UM, DISTURBING SOME TO.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE BROWN HATCH IS PROPOSED PER PERMEABLE PAVERS TO HELP WITH DETENTION FOR THE SMALLER ADDITION.
SO WE ARE, UH, THAT, THAT IS A SIDEWALK ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
IT GOES OVER TO JASON STAFFING, I GUESS, AND THIS JUST SHOWS THE, THE ADDITIONS WHERE THE ADDITIONS WILL BE.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT PARKING LOT? UM, HAS ANYTHING CHANGED THE, THE SOUTHERN LOT, THE FUTURE POSSIBLE LOT.
HAS ANYTHING CHANGED TO AFFECT FLOW FROM OTHER BUILDING IN THE AREA THAT THE, THAT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN LAST TIME WE CONSIDERED IT? YOU TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW WATER, THE WATER FLOW, ARE YOU SAYING HAVE, HAVE OTHER NEW THINGS BEEN BUILT AROUND IT THAT WOULD AFFECT THAT? YOU KNOW, LIKE THE THINGS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY THE OTHER SIDE OF FRANKLIN ROAD DRAINS OR ANY OF THE, THE BUILDING THAT'S GONE ON IN THE EVERYTHING.
I MEAN IT'S ALL THE SAME WATER FLOW FROM OUTSIDE THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH THAT AREA.
UH, THAT, I MEAN I MAY KICK THAT ONE OVER TO, TO ENGINEERING, BUT IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE I LIVE THERE.
THERE'S NO NEW HOUSES ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT YET.
UM, THERE'S NO NEW HOUSES THERE.
AND THEN THE STRUCTURES ON, UM, THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE BANK IS, NONE OF THAT'S CHANGED SINCE.
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WHAT HAS CHANGED IS, UM, OUR STORM WATER STANDARDS.SO THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT PARKING LOT THAT'S RESERVED THERE, IN MY OPINION.
IT'S REALLY JUST A GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION OF A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR A PARKING LOT THERE BECAUSE, UH, STORMWATER DETENTION STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE PLAN ON THE LEFT AND ALSO STORMWATER QUALITY, UH, WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND A, A STREAM RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THERE.
A FLOODWAY WILL HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED FOR THAT STREAM.
IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK INVOLVED IN FROM THE ENGINEERING SIDE.
BEFORE THAT PARKING LOT'S EVER BEFORE A BULLDOZER TOUCHES THAT SECTION.
IF WE APPROVE THE SITE PLAN THOUGH, DO YOU AFFECT, IS IT EFFECTIVELY GRANTING THEM THAT PARKING COUNT, THE NUMBER OF STALLS? I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
IT'S IS IT, IS IT REDUCED FROM THE LAST SITE PLAN? UM, MASTER PLAN? IT'S, UH, I THINK IT WAS 152.
UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME.
IT'S THE SAME PARKING, BUT THEY'RE GETTING CREDIT FOR THAT AS A RESERVE, THOSE NUMBERS.
BUT IF YOU, BUT YOU'RE STILL GRANTING THEM 152 STALLS ON THE SITE PLAN REGARDLESS OF THE CONFIGURATION, YOU'RE STILL ALLOWING THEM TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE? MAYBE.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT THE PARKING LOT WILL NOT BE BUILT IF, IF IT, IF THEY'RE GRANTED 200 SPACES AND WE CAN ONLY FIT 50 IN THERE WITH TO, TO MEET THE STORMWATER VENDORS, THAT'S ALL THEY'RE GONNA GET.
AND THAT'S SI ZONED SI ONE AS WELL.
AND WITH RESERVE PARKING IN THE CODE, IT'S REALLY JUST, IT'S THERE AS A BACKUP SHOULD THERE EITHER BE, UH, IF THE CITY SAYS, HEY, YOU NEED MORE PARKING, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO THEY GET ALL OR SOME OF THAT PARKING.
AND, BUT YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL SEE THE SITE PLAN FOR THAT BEFORE IT EVER GETS BUILT.
UM, SO WITH THAT, THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS ON REGULAR.
AND THEN WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE APPROVAL OF THE 2024 SCHEDULE FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, I, I HEARD SOME TALK BEFORE THE MEETING ABOUT JANUARY, LIKE WHETHER EVERYONE WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN THE JANUARY DATE.
SO LET ME KNOW IF YOU THINK YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE AT SOME OF THESE MEETINGS AND WE CAN, WE CAN ADJUST THIS BEFORE MONDAY NIGHT IF WE NEED TO.
IF WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM FOR ONE OF THESE DATES.
SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT? HOW MANY DO WE HAVE HERE NOW? 5, 6, 7, 8.
SO WE HAVE NINE OF US HERE NOW.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE HERE ON JANUARY 2ND? OKAY.
WE, WE DON'T NEED A QUORUM FOR THE BRIEFING.
A MEETING DATE MEETING? NO, MEETING IS JANUARY 2ND MONDAY.
THE JANUARY 6TH IS OUR MEETING DATE.
OH, IT'S UP THERE? NO, TUESDAY, JANUARY 2ND.
YEAH, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT 2025.
UM, SO IT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'LL BE JANUARY 6TH TO 2025.
I DON'T NEED NOT THAT FAR OUT.
WHY DON'T WE KEEP IT IF IT'S JUST TOO, KEEP IT, KEEP IT FOR NOW LESS MONDAY NIGHT WE GET A LOT OF CHANGE.
BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE OUR USUAL, UH, PROBLEM WITH THE FINAL FOUR 'CAUSE IT'S ON AN OFF WEEK.
IS THAT WEDNESDAY? THE INFO MEETING? WEDNESDAY THE 27TH OF NOVEMBER.
THAT'S THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
THAT'S THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
DO YOU REALLY WANT THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME HOLIDAY TRAVEL ISSUES.
TUESDAY IF SOMEBODY'S TRAVELING.
I I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNA HERE, BUT, OKAY, WE'LL LOOK, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S, I MEAN, WE SHOULD HAVE THE STAFF REPORT DONE.
I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY KIND OF A TIGHT MONTH IN NOVEMBER.
THIS, THIS NOVEMBER'S REALLY TIGHT.
SO I WAS GONNA ALSO TELL YOU ON THE, THE, THE STAFF REPORTS FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING.
WE, WE GET OUR FILING DEADLINE IS NOVEMBER 6TH OF THIS MONTH.
AND THEN, UM, THE MEETING WE HAVE THANKSGIVING AND THE STAFF REPORTS USUALLY GO OUT THAT RIGHT DURING, UH, THANKSGIVING.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK ON THOSE REPORTS AND YOU MIGHT GET 'EM SLIGHTLY LATE LATER THIS TIME.
JUST, UM, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY CASES ARE FILED, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA KIND OF WORK THROUGH THAT.
BUT JUST KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY TIGHT FOR US TO TURN EVERYTHING AROUND AND GIVE THE APPLICANTS ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE REVISIONS TO THEIR PLANS.
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GET THE STAFF REPORT SLIGHTLY LATER.THIS COMING FOR THIS COMING, UH, MEETING IN DECEMBER.
JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH A TIGHT TURNAROUND TIME.
WE HAVE ONE ON THE 29TH THIS YEAR.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT, THAT, UM, NOVEMBER NEXT YEAR AND SEE IF THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED.
I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR TODAY.